The Weekly Planet - 602 Wicked: For Good & Moana But Worse

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

It’s big movie time again! Maybe biggest movie of the year time with Wicked: For Good. Plus we talk a Black Panther 3 update, another Star Trek reboot, the first look at Legend of Zelda live action, something Ninja Turtles gets cancelled but another thing happens, trailers for Moana But Worse, The Hunger Games Prequel II, news on a Labubu movie and more! Thanks for listeningNew Q&A bonus ep with James & Maso is out now! You can listen to the newest exclusives plus entire back-catalogue with let's play videos, movie commentaries, exclusive pods, Q&As, ad-free feeds and early access on bigsandwich.coPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.New, early and wicked podcast! James Maso covering BIG MOVIE and all the latest red hot movie news. Thank you for listening.00:00 The Start06:30 Black Panther 3 Update10:54 Star Trek Movies Are Back16:46 Live Action Zelda First Look22:45 TMNT Reboot Plus Last Ronin Scrapped28:27 Moana But Worse Live Action Trailer36:58 The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Reaping Trailer42:41 Project Hail Mary Trailer43:42 Labubu Movie in Works at Sony48:42 Wicked: For Good Movie Review01:03:17 Wicked: For Good Spoiler Segment01:15:48 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:21:42 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Weekly Planet, the Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. And with me, as always, is my co-host, Nick Mason. It's great to be here. Delicious. He's got a muff for the yard raptor then wrapped it and then wrapped up again. He didn't even take a bind.

Well, I'm for later. For later. But then I thought I do a bit of theater of the mind. If you were with me, James, if you were on board. I'm literally with you. I can't not be here. You would have said, wow, you unwrapped an A to that muffin in one go. I didn't know you wanted me to do that.

I guess we should have, I guess we're not as... I'm not an improv guy. I guess we're not as in sync as I thought we were. That's true. But I mean, you know, you know, James, you know the magic of podcasting. I know that people would want to know that I ate a whole muffin in one go. You'd know, they would be running through the streets. waving banners, throwing streamers.

He chucked that whole muffin down his gob. Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah, but that didn't happen. It didn't happen. But if you do it, if you do that at any point, I'll be the first to back you up. Thanks, man. I'll make the speech, I'll be the head of the parade.

I'll do it all. That's true. I'll lead a rally into Melbourne. Just through the city square. People are like, this is one of those racism rallies? It's not. It's muffin related. But it's the guy who's always at the front.

He's at the front of this one as well. So we can only assume... We just look similar. Oh, I see. I see what it is. All right. Well, maybe throughout the... Over the course of this podcast, I'll gain the nerve.

Just jam a whole muffet in your mouth. Yeah, that's right. Mason, it's big week for big movie. Oh, it's big movie. It's big movie. And the only thing bigger than a... I said it's going to say, the only thing that can make a big movie

is what feels like a fresh idea, but it has to be something we've already seen. Oh, yes. Because we have on last year. This one's, and now they know it, and it did a year, it did the rounds, and now it's back in big movies here again. Big movies here. Yeah, Wicked Part 2, of course.

I mean, it helps if there's, you know, big stands. Sure, yeah. You know, and I'm not talking about, I'm not just talking about the movie Big Stan, which had Rob, or Roy Schneider in it. Yeah, I'm not talking about big set. He went to prison, he learned karate or whatever from David Caradette. I'm talking about big pop star stands. Yeah, they're pushing this along.

Yeah. Beware, if you say anything mean about this movie. I won't. Yeah, I'm not going to either. What do I say anything mean about a movie? Even if somebody's, like, de-aged at one point, and I'm like, fuck, hideous. I don't even think that. Yeah.

Do you think that? Yes. We'll talk about it. Next week, we're going to be talking about Wake Up Dead Man. Can't wait. Knives Our Three. Yeah. And we might have a special guest if I hear back from him.

Oh, yes. It's Ben Woblong, a fictional detective. And this isn't one of those things where one of us does like an impression. No, no, no. We got on that Zoom call that he was on in the last movie. Yeah. He was in the bath. And Natasha Leone was there.

and his husband, Hugh Grant, was there. Yeah, that's right. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was there. It was also there. And then we were there and we're like, come on. Come on, man. And he's like, I'm fictional. Yeah.

And if not him, we'll get Dave Warnocky. We'll get Dave Warnock if we can get him. If we hear back from Dave Warnocky. Yeah. Yeah. I can't say, no. Interesting. I can't say that one.

We've also got news on what's happening with Star Trek, because we know the previous Star Trek series is dead. Not all the Netflix stuff or whatever, some of it is, or whatever, Paramount. But there's a new movie franchise that they're kicking off. Could be big movie. Could be, probably not. No. I like the lineup, though.

We also got our first look at the Legend of Zelda live action movie. Legend of Zelda live action movie, big movie. Big movie. We also got some updates on a couple of Ninja Turtle projects. Some good news, I guess, and some not as good news, I guess, depending on what you're interested in. Depending on how old you are, I think, probably will depend on what you like about this. James, let's be real.

We've aged out of whatever it is, regardless of the demographic. It's true. We've got trailers of Hoy for both Moana and the Hunger Games Sunrise on the Reaping. The animated Disney movie Moana, James. Yeah, there's a lot of animation in it, I would say. But you're talking about the new live action. In air quotes, live action. And a movie you shouldn't watch if you haven't read the book, Project Hail Mary.

I didn't watch it. Plus, the next big toy movie to knock. Big toy movie. On our door. God, I'm so excited. Hello. Who is it? I don't know.

You tell me me. But later, don't tell me now. I'll get to it. I'll get to it. I'll get to it. Is it Rock Them, Sock them, Robots? Because they'd be knocking real hard on those doors. Well, we recently did a commentary for the movie Red One and the lead up to Christmas.

That'll be out in a few weeks. Yeah. And they do make it an appearance. And I think that was the one time during that whole. movie, I went, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Really? I think so. I mean, it's fun seeing a punch and robot. Because with some movies, you're going, oh, yeah, all the time. Oh, yeah. No, I'm doing, oh, yeah, that's what I'm doing, like the entourage song.

Yeah, I guess that's true, yeah. Also, we did a Q&A at big sandwich.com. People are interested. It's like an hour and 20 or whatever. We just go through a bunch of questions that people had. Part one of a undetermined series. Yeah, we might, if people want more questions answered, sure. We'll just get more and more personal and deep and existential as these go on, I think. So this was a good start, I feel. And then we'll, then we cut it off and then we're like, just what's your favorite cheese or whatever? Yeah. What's your favorite cheese? Or whatever. Probably Bree? Bree's a good cheese. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Oh, no. I like a good. I like a good. I can't answer. No, you know what? Bree was a terrible choice. I don't mind it. Currently right now,

I wouldn't mind some. I'd demolish a brie and some crackers right now. What's the best cheese that's on its own? Like a crack a barrel. Yeah. Yeah. Because a Brie's good if you do like a, like a, I don't know, you put a crack a barrel of a restaurant. I know it's just. saying yeah but they're related are they're unrelated they're not related there's a brand of cheese in australica called cracker barrel oh i know that it's like a like a like a like a vintage a sharp vintage cheddar is best on it so that's good i like what you're doing mason deadline is saying black are we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna finish up on cheese talk yeah okay do you no i don't have any more i was just curious okay then yes we're finishing up on cheese

interesting okay all right i was just hoping you'd say do you have any more thoughts on cheese do you have any more thoughts on shit? No. Is this what you wanted? Yeah. Deadline, they spoke to Ryan Cougler. Oh, Ryan Coole. Is there Ryan Coole?

What are you up to? Directors. Black Panthers from Black Panthers. Black Panther. Sinners, Fruit Val Station. One of the Creed movies, the first one. Yes. Great director.

Second Creed movie as well? I didn't think he did that one. No. I believe that was a different director. Okay. I know Michael Be joined in the third. He did the third one. Was it Stephen Capel Jr.

Might have been. It was. Stephen Capable Jr. Got him. God, I'm so fucking good at this. Oh, absolutely. Ridiculous. Who would...

If there was a pub quiz and they said, who directed Creed 2, I would have won. I would have been the only one in that room to get that right. Absolutely, but no one's ever going to ask that. That's why. No, I know. They'd be like, this is clearly a scam. This is clearly a little made-up little game between you and the Quizmaster here. You're asking impossible questions that only this nerd will answer so he can win a cheese, a cheese plate.

Yeah, man, I would say. Damn. No, whenever I'm in a pub and they're like, it's time for a quiz. You can just sign up or whatever. I'm like, nah. and I'll stand up and I'll move anywhere else in the world. Okay. Yeah.

Wow. Anyways, Mason, they spoke to him about, they said, what are you working on? What's the next movie? And he said, well, it's Black Panther 3. He said, we're working hard on it. Yeah, it's the next movie. I wasn't sure whether he was going to do it because Black Panther 2 was obviously a, well, he was working on a version before Chadwick Bozeman died, and then he found out that he

died roughly at the same time that everybody else in the world found that out to restructure the whole thing. Pretty depressing movie all in all. For sure. I don't want to watch it ever again. But, I mean, you know, Martin Freeman gets such a, he gets a job. Is that the moment he does a job? It's such a run in that.

And maybe he died because he was a scroll or that was a different Martin Freeman. I don't know. I don't know, Mason. No, it was always the real Martin Freeman. Great. That's cool, man. Yeah. So, yeah, this is a little bit surprising, I guess.

Also, I am a bit kind of like, oh, I would have liked to, um, of him to do something else, like sinners at, not sinners, but, you know, something outside. Sinners too. Sinners too, maybe. Something outside the Marvel kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thing. Yeah, I don't know.

What do you think? What that vampire guy was up to before sinners? Exactly. What those Native American guys were up to before sinners? The movie. You know that? Yeah. So that's cool.

I think, well, this obviously could come out probably after both Avengers movies. And there's rumors and there's been like leak stuff, but who knows that Dancin Idris is going to be the next Black Panther. I like that. Me too. So he was in F1 recently. Fuan. Sorry.

Fuan the movie. And I don't know whether that's going to be an aged up to Charla Jr. I think it is. Who was introduced because then Infinite, then Avengers, time crystals. No, he's going to go into the dream realm. It's going to go to the dream ancestor's realm. He's going to be like, I'm going to make this sacrifice. And then one minute later he's going to come out and he's like, I've been in there.

I'm big, like the movie big. I've been in there for 20 years. I met Zoltar from Big and now I'm big. That's right. Yeah, Zoltar is in here. I mean, you all wondered where he was after the movie Big. Yeah, all the weird stuff from those movies The woman from weird science

She's in here She's in the dream ancestral realm But she was like an AI person Yeah, but it doesn't matter Because she's also Is she dead or She's magic? No, she's magic

Inner Space is in here Okay, that's good Just we're in a guy's guts And that's different from the quantum realm Is it? Yeah, I mean, essentially we're all In Dennis Quaid's guts I think

In this dream ancestor realm Well I think it was It wasn't Dennis Quaid It was he plays Jiminy Glic Martin Shaw I mean, how would we know? We're inside his guts, aren't we? Yeah, I don't know.

I can't see the outside of him. A camera or drone or something. Nah, it doesn't work outside of that. Don't know what's outside, Martin Short, I guess, now that I know it's Martin Short. Odin's in there, maybe. Anthony Hopkins, Odin? I mean, maybe. He's went on afterlife, of thoughts.

The ghoulies are in here. The goolies. The goolies from the horror movie, the ghoulies. Oh, God. Yeah. What is this place? It's the dream ancestral realm. Is it?

Yeah, all the ancestors is here. I think you're pitching your idea for Ready Player 3. That's what's happening here. If I had to guess Also the big piano for big is in here Two big things really Yep All right man

If you say so Black Panther 3 Why not? Why not? I hope he doesn't have a nano suit or whatever He's gonna He's gonna, I'm sorry Well in that case I hope he does

If I can't wish it away You're gonna wish that you're gonna like it Yeah If you can't wish anything away You just gotta wish That you like the thing that's bad That's gonna be in it So here it is

Here it is, folks Here we bloody go All right, Mason Go on This is also from Deadline Star Trek is back And it's not dead We know they're kind of flailing around

On TV a bit Oh yes You don't know they're flailing I've seen it They're canceling stuff But Strang's New Worlds are still going I think And other than that

And I don't know What else they're doing I don't know But the movie's obviously stopped Mm-hmm correct So now they've got Jonathan Goldstein And John Francis Daley

They're going to write and direct a new Star Trek movie for Paramount. Now, they're the Dungeons and Dragons guys. They are. And one of them's a freak or a geek, or both of them are. Yes, that's right. Dungeons and Dragons, owner among thieves, they directed along with Game Night. Oh, yes.

This is good. I mean, no one saw Dungeons and Dragons. And it also had Chris Pine. So I wonder if that's something or anything. Yeah. I wonder if he bought them in to be like, help me develop a new Star Trek movie. And then they went, we will. And then they pushed him out.

Or maybe they were like, we want to work. Maybe Chris Pymourne was like, after Dungeons and the Dragons, I never want to work with those guys again. And then they weasel their way in a Star Trek and then he quit the franchise. Apparently it's going to be a completely new take in the Star Trek universe. Disagree? Wait. Wait. And it's not connected to any previous or current television series movies or prior movie in development projects.

Whoa, all right. This is part of the Larry A Allison, David Allison, Paramount, clear out thing that they're doing. Also, that whole Warner Brothers thing is still up in the air. there's still bidding this week. Yeah, we don't know. We might find out next week who the might be Netflix. It might be Paramount. It might be a third thing.

I can't remember. I've lost interest. Like when they figure it out. It might be a guy in Dubai. Yeah. It will be a guy in Dubai. It'll because he'll fund through somebody else. That's 100% going to happen.

Yeah. So in terms of... You just love Star Trek so much? Yeah, that's definitely it. That's what it is. That's what it is. And he wants to get a new Dungeons and Dragons movie. I also want that.

No release date. Great. No cast. Okay. There hasn't been a Star Trek cinematic release since 2016. Oh. Though, as you did mention last week, someone pointed out, there was a Section 31 movie. Yes.

Which will, which is good, because that took the buffer of the Star Trek curse. That's the bad one apparently. Which means the next one will be good. It has to be good. Has to be good. Wow. So I'm excited for that. Me too.

Do you think there's a, like, what kind of tone? Do you think it's going to be that comedic tone? Is that what they're looking for? Yeah. They're looking for Dungeons and Dragons. that Guardians of Galaxy kind of tone. I think so. Okay.

Is that what people, like, die hard Star Trek fans more? You know what? Probably not. All right, let's dial it back a little bit. They're going slightly more serious. Slightly more serious than Dungeons and Dragons. They've got to thread that. Because, like, the last couple of Star Trek's had sort of comedic moments. Yeah.

So probably that? Yeah. I don't know. Are they, but are they here to be like, we know what Star Trek fans want, even if they don't, so we're going to give them that? And here it is. Or are they like, we are scouring the internet to see what Star Trek fans are mad about and we're not going to do that.

We're going to. Yeah. Is this J.J. Abrams style, you know, Star Wars 9 damage control situation we're in? Yeah. Or do they have a firm vision for this? I feel like the D&D, they, it feels like they did strike a balance really well of what D&D people, whatever they like. Oh, yeah.

And just a general audience kind of good vibe, even though it didn't like. They like gelatinous cubes. Oh, yeah. That's true. Ac acidic gelatinous. That will melt you if you're in it for too long. But you said this is not connected to anything. So not connected to the original series,

not connected to next generation, Deges 9, et cetera, et cetera. The modern stuff, Strange New World, the animated series. So. The 1970s animated series or whatever it was. So where do we go there?

Like what era? Do you go further into the future, I guess, right? You move the timeline forward the way that next generation did or whatever. But then if you're doing that is just, a movie how do you establish like i feel like this next generation in the movies had the advantage of being a tv series and then being able to release a series of movies with an established cast correct yes or is this you don't have that yeah but the whole model has changed for everything so i don't know anything i mean what i would say also is that the the jj abram's ones they were set

around the time of the original series and strange new worlds are set just before the original series so maybe this is a next generation style movie but it's a ship adjacent to the end of prize like it's doing off doing other missions. Like Jason's born with Jeremy Renner. Exactly. Jeremy Renner is Captain Jeremy Renner of the Starship USS Jeremy Renner. It's a family thing. He's not the original Jeremy Renner, but he's one of the many descendants of Jeremy Renner.

And they always become the captain of the USS Jeremy Renner. Is that true? And then I might go to a planet of aliens and being like, round all this up, round it up, don't like it? Is that what's happening? Absolutely, sure. Yeah, that's great. It sounds really good.

I agree. This is good. Well, we'll see what this is in four to five years. Or never. Or never. Or never. But it is an IP, so never say never. They must.

I reckon they probably have like a very, these two would have a very strong idea of what it is. Because how do you, how do two guys whose last movie did not that great that was like generally quite well received? How do they get in the room with the executives besides I've got this really good idea and you are going to like it? I've got this really good idea and it will make a billion dollars. Yeah. I'd say that, even if it's a terrible idea. This is a good idea and I know I'm on the pulse and it'll make you a billion dollars each.

Everyone in this room, how many people in this room? Nine people, yep, each. Anyway, we're going to pretend we're making a Star Trek movie. We're actually, we've built a machine to counterfeit money. And we can print it off. The cast is going to be there. They're going to be turning the crass. They'll be implicated.

So if anybody goes down, it will be there. Great. I love this. Mason, we've got our first look at the Legend of Zelda live action but real. That's right. You know about this? Yes.

So a couple of new guys, I think. So it's Link played by Benjamin Evan Ainsworth. Oh yes. And Zelda played by Bo Baragason. Oh, yes. This is co-financed by Sony Pictures and Nintendo with game creator Shigero Miyamoto and Avi Arad they're going to produce. The dream team.

The dream team. Oh, my God. The D.T. The D.T. Yeah. The fun they would have together. I can't even imagine the memes they'd show each other on them. their phones. Just an open-topped corvette driving down Sunset Boulevard.

Looking at memes. Looking at memes, Shigero Miyamoto and Avi Arad, famous producer of some of the Spider-Man movies. Absolutely. Two great guys. Maybe all of them? Probably all of them, I don't know, man. Avi Arad would be talking Shigero Miamoto's ear off about all those title sequences where they're flying through DNA. Oh my God. You know, can we incorporate that into the Zelda movie, he said. Maybe we can fly through Zelda's DNA. Yeah, and he said, Look, I didn't invent that concept, but I pioneered it in the sense that I wanted to make it really, really long. Yeah. And that's true.

It's true. Yeah. Maybe Link's DNA could be a map of Hyrule. Oh, yeah. The land of Zelda or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is great. Yeah.

Maybe Link could grow the master sword out of his hands. Yes. You know, instead of finding the master sword, he can grow it. Growing out of his hand. It could squirt out of his hand. Because he gets bitten by a sword or a... Bitten by a sword. Or a mole or something.

Maybe bitten by a mole and then he can squirt a sword out of his hands. You know? This is good. He can fight his high school bully. Yeah. Who's Gannon? Gannon. Gannon, yeah.

Gannon. We know a guy called Gannon. We do know a guy called Gannon. Last name. Yes. So this is director Wes Ball. Okay. The maze runner trilogy.

Oh, you nearly had me. You nearly had me. Could have been Wes Baldwin. It wasn't. From Limbiscuit. No. And he also directed the last Planet of the Apes. Oh, yeah.

Okay. So, I mean, that's a spectacular. Also, the amazing movie are, like, they're nice looking movies. Did he do it in crazy makeup, Wes Ball? Did he direct the Last Planet of the Apes movie? Did he wear crazy makeup? Crazy makeup. No, I think he did it with like a, just a regular looking face and whatever.

Interesting, all right. Yeah, that's fine, I guess. Yeah, that's fine, I guess. I'm just saying some Wes Bohr named people bring a certain theatricality to their work. Yeah, I'm looking at this guy. I don't think he does that, to be honest. It's a shame. I mean, I guess it'll be all right then.

Yeah, I like it. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes as well. I don't know what's happening with that series. Did you like three dollar bill you all? What's that? The Libisket album? I'm gonna say no. I didn't. I'd name some songs off it. That was their cover of faith was on that. I do like that cover of faith. Except the bit where he starts

screaming and telling everybody to shut the fuck up in the middle of the song. And it's like, well, I guess you don't like Libisket. Well, I just mean like we're here for you, man. Why are you being like that? That's right. Yeah. We've tuned in. You're here rocking the set. That's like Russian roulette when you place your bed. And we're all here support of that and you're telling us to shut the fuck up yeah all right all right we'll just we'll just maintain a stony silence while you play your songs don't want to break your concentration

pete sampress that's right tennis flickers that's good yeah thanks yeah anyway uh looking at this stuff i did some investigation like i'm looking at stuff like which zelda is this because there's every zelva game basically not always so you're basing this on costume is that what we're Costumes setting, like the general look and vibe. This is just sort of a feel, though, wasn't it? Yeah, it looks closest to probably Breathe of the Wild. Breathe of the Wild. I mean, that is the big one.

That's the big one. Well, there's two. There's Breathe of the Wild, then Breathe of the Wild with a robot arm. But I think Breathe of the Wild, people, I mean, that was a real shot in the arm for the Zelda and Link franchise. Yeah, that's the multi-billion dollar franchise one. So people who are like, we love Breathe of the Wild. It's just going to be exactly like Breathe of the Wild.

The way that the Mario movie is like based on, it's not based on the original Mario game. Exactly, that's right. But the clothing is kind of similar, though Link in that game was like a blue tunic or he at least opens with that. He also doesn't have a little pointy hat, which he also doesn't have in that game. Maybe he'll acquire his blue tunic and his pointy hats throughout the course of the movie. You ever think about that? But I don't think you can give him a little pointy hat.

I think people would be like, this is dumb. It's like Robin Hood or whatever. What if he acquires it from an older adventurer who's like here, have my pointy hat. You ran me a merry chase, but he is... He's a pointing hat. I'm the mole that bitch you. Exactly. He's the pointed hat.

Maybe after the death of his uncle, Big Link, he will fashion his own little blue tunic. He makes some designs and so forth. And be like, wow, how do I become not Big Link? Regular Link, exactly, yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's probably what's going to happen. I think this... We'll have to fight a wrestler called Master Sword. Do you think?

Yes, I think that. Okay, that's good, actually. I think May 7th, 2027, this is two years away. I think all right. I think they can film it by that by then. Yeah, I reckon they could probably do it. I reckon they could do it less time. Yeah, I mean, if they get on it.

If they get on it, like, right now. I feel like, I don't know, is this shot in New Zealand? Where is this? May 7, it's still two, it's still like a year and a half away. We'll find out. We'll find out. We'll find out. I mean, at the very least, we'll find out after it comes out. Yeah, then we'll know exactly what time.

We can ask either of these two, either of these two knuckleheads. Hey, hey, kids, where'd you film it? We could yell from a red carpet. That's what we could yell. Hey, hey, eyes over here. Where'd you film it? Where'd you film it, you low dogs? Don't look away.

Don't look away, look at me. Look at my eyes. Where'd you film it? Yeah, I mean, you know, Nintendo, they love doing movies now. They love doing movies now. Because they did one. There was that brief period of about 25 years, but they didn't love doing movies.

And then they did Detective Pikachu and Mario. and then second Mario next year. Second Mario. Mason. Hello. There's new. There's news on the teenage mutant ninja turtles front. Oh, that sounds good.

Yeah. So we know we're getting a... Come on, man, I need this. Well, too bad. We know, there we go. We know we're getting a mutant mayhem two movie. That is in the works. That's going to be September of 2027.

But they did cancel the spin-off animated show, which was 2D animated. Oh, that's right. Which hints towards it, I don't know. None of this is maybe doing as well as they're wanting to do. And what they've done, they've announced by THR that, I don't know if this is, sorry, this is announced, this is what's happening apparently. Producer Neil H. Moritz is in talks to launch a brand new live action TMNT franchise for Paramount. He's that guy. Yes, he's done.

The guy's done a million movies. But he's the guy that won't let 23 Jump Street happen. He's the producer on that. You're right. He's on all the fast and furious movies. He did all the sonic movies. He went to Alyssa the other day. He's got a million movies.

And they're all good movies. They are pretty good. Yeah, he's got a great, you know, series of movies that he produced. That's right. Yeah. Now, they're saying that as opposed to some other titles, namely Transformers or Gio-Joe, Paramount fully owns the TMNT brand, having picked it up from co-creator Peter Laid in 2009 and is seeking to fully unlock its potential.

Well, I think he sold it to Nickelodeon and then they acquired it. Yeah, that's right. Or one of them sold it to the other one first, I think. Yeah, he's been sold his share to Lend and Laird sold it to Nickelodeon, then whoever this is you bought, just bought Nicole. And Eastman and Laird are also able to come and write comics whenever they want. Yeah, they're allowed to do that, which is a great, great deal. Yeah, which is what they wanted to do at the first place.

Yeah, that's all they wanted to do. But then they immediately got saddled with Ferraris. Yeah, that's right. They immediately got saddled with unbelievable wealth and success, and they just couldn't, they just didn't have the time to make anything at that point, yeah, which is what happened to us. Yeah. Yeah. And apparently they want to Sonic Fy the French.

We can't move for friggin' Ferraris in here. I can't. I'm sick of them. You got one stacked on top of the other. That's right. God. Yeah. They want to Sonic fire the franchise.

Oh, that doesn't sound good. No, I mean, kids will like it, but... But does that just mean they want to bring them back into live action? Maybe. Because, I mean, that's, you know, it's... I think it's tone. Right. That's what I feel like they're going.

Because Sonic is like... It's a very successful franchise. They don't cost, or initially, at least, they don't cost that much to make. But that's because there's just one Sonic. Yeah, there's one Sonic. I mean, you know, and then they've added more Sonics as the movie... Oh, that's true, actually. Sonics of different colors.

But he's also quite small, isn't it? He's quite small. So, yeah, I don't know what the deal is with this. I feel like the tone of mutant mayhem was not that dissimilar from the Sonic movie. No, but also like that, you have to animate literally everything. That's true. Whereas you could just film a green field and go, there they are. Oh, you don't have to have to draw any Ninja Tales because the Ninja Tadels are also green.

Yeah, you go, there they are. They're in there. You wouldn't film a green field. You'd form a, you'd film a concrete wall. And you'd be like, this is the sewer. Or a blue field, yeah. Yeah, that's true. So this is, you know, I mean, Ninja Tuttle's always

reshaping itself into something else. That's true, yeah. Because this also potentially came to the expense of the last Ronan adaptation, which was a live-action CGI animation hybrid. The project was going to be R-rated. Oh, yes. And it was going to be the nobody filmmaker,

Alia Naish Hala, who to direct potentially. But the new regime wasn't keen, sorry, on having the first non-animated movie in 10 years via bloody adult skewing story. One unsciter says the studio wants to leave the door open to possibly revisit it down the road. That is a shame. It would have been nice to give it. Like I think maybe you said in one of the innumerable things we recorded last week. It was a Q&A. Or this week. Yeah, it would have been nice to do a revisit of the original new line cinema, live action 10, if Ninja Turtles. The grubby New York one would just be like, what if it's a horrible

future though? Yeah. What if it's Blade Runner or whatever? New versions of those weird suits or just the rotting old suits. Just the rotting old suits, it's fine. Also, you could do those suits now, kind of like you did with the Predator, the recent Predator, where most of it's live action, you animate the face.

Right, yeah, yeah. There's versions you can do with that. I think we'll come back to that eventually. Yeah. But I also don't think there's anything wrong with, like, having two run at once. That's true, yeah. You know?

I don't think anyone's confused. No, also, like, ultimately, I don't have a problem with this becoming a sonica-fired franchise because the Ninja Turtles, it is a kid's property. Correct, yes. It didn't really start as a kid's property,

but then it quickly became that. And it's this kind of, this perfect idea, which... I mean, it was an edgy kid's property. Yeah, yeah. But then it quickly became the cartoon and whatever. That's right, yeah.

But it, it works on kind of any age range, really. It's like this perfect idea somehow. James, any age range of stunted adults. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. I should specify. Yeah. Any age, I mean, any age range...

But you have to grow up with it. You have to grow up with it, yeah. Let's show it to our dads and see if they enjoy whatever new teenage new Ninja Turtle's property is coming out. Great point. Hey, Dad, this is based on the Ninja Turtles Arcade game from the 80s. All right. What? This is your job, is it?

Still, all right. God. Sorry, our parents retired like 49 years ago. Yeah. Doing nothing. Yeah. No, they're right. Yeah, they're all right.

So anyway, that's Ninja Turtles. That's Ninja Turtles. And we love it. We do love it. I do kind of. I'm looking forward to seeing Mutant Mayhem, too. I like that first one. Yeah.

Is that, because we saw recently a little clip, it was the Mutant Mayhem universe, but that would Oh, they're doing like a special. A Christmas special or something like that. Yeah. With whatever. With whatever, I'm telling you. With whatever. Okay, that's great.

Trethos of the Hoy Mason. Of course we got Moana, but worse. That's right. You know about this? You don't know what's worse for sure. I absolutely do. Do you telling me it's better? I mean, it looks worse.

because it's not that, you know, fun animated style. It's live action, but it's also, you know, completely bloodless. Yeah. Like it's got, not bloodless in the sense that there's blood. It looks like there's no pulse to it. No. You know what I mean? It's just great.

It's shot for shot as well, right? It looks very shot. I mean, people have done various. But it's going to make a million dollars, right? I think it might. Yeah, I think it's very possible that it. We've got to factor in these, James, this sort of stuff. It is what's going to keep the cinema experience going.

Yeah, I know that. Oh, yeah, no, I understand that. Like, I get it. Like, and this will probably make a billion dollars, but we've got, we've reached to, like, peak critical mass for these remates. Absolutely.

Like, this, that movie, it's going to come out 10 years after the first, while the animated series is still going. Yes, and we just got Moana 2. We literally just got one. Last year? It's got, yeah, it's got, it doesn't have the same cast,

but it's got the rock. Yes. And I think there's probably some other people who return. I mean, there's some of this cast I like. I don't know who the, Catherine, the guy, is playing my one. So she played it to Jay LaGaiya?

Yes. Huh. The Moana is her dad is Jaila Gaya who played Captain Typho in Attack of the Clones. And he's also in other stuff. And he's in water rats. He is in water rats. That's true, yeah. There you go.

Renner Owen is playing Grandma Tala and she's in like once for Warriors or whatever. Yeah. She's incredible. So this is a good cast. Yeah. But did you see this news this week, Jane? that I think it's Kristen Bell, Josh Gad, and somebody else.

They're getting 60, they're getting 60 million dollars each. No, I think it's 20. I think it's 20. I read 60 million dollars each. It couldn't be 60 million. I think it could be. That's more than like Robert Danny Jr. This is Disney money though.

No, I understand. I think they've got, no, I wouldn't shock me. All right. Every single thing I've seen says $60 million each. But it's to reprise their roles as whoever they were in Frozen for Frozen 3 and 4. Oh, three and four. Three and four, which is crazy. Yeah, I'm just saying.

But also like, yeah, this is from The Rap. Kristen Bell, Edina Menzel, and Josh Kat have all signed deals to earn over $60 million each. Oh, wow, you are right. Which includes upfront fees and back-end bonus payments to return for Frozen 3 and Frozen 4. Because I'm guessing that's based on their agents have gone. You guys have made billions of dollars in merch and costumes and for kids and everything that's got frozen on. They pay them, just AI them. Yeah, right?

Just buy their spirit and soul and use that. It's way cheaper. But I mean, for real, though, would kids notice? They'd notice if the voices were different? Yeah. I mean, I think it also just creates, like, just a bad vibe. Like, people... This has given me a bad vibe.

Yeah, oh, no, totally. But I just mean, like, if it got out that they went cheaper, it's like Megamint 2. You know, they went cheaper. Of course, it's a MegaMind 2 situation. Exactly. They screwed over, like, the original people involved do have grow it or whatever so i think it is i think yeah i think that it obviously includes promotion and everything else on top of that oh yeah for sure yeah but also like they're like just to be clear

this is for your birthday and christmas never again no more money ever again you're gonna have to be happy with 60 million dollars i mean otherwise like disney pocket that money like i yeah sure i would rather it go to like the animators and i don't know literally everybody who works on those movies but no i i understand you know what we should do is you just hire out of cinema and then you just show the kids, Kristen Bell, Josh Gadd, and Adina Manzell and go, is this what you want? And when the kids are like, who are these? We don't understand. Who's this thing?

Up and the snowman. And they're like, boo. No, you're not, you're a regular man. Yeah, get out of here. Get out of here. Once you went Beauty and the Beast 2016, the movie sucked. You suck. Oh, was the first gay Disney character.

I mean, they always say that. But anyway, for Moana, I think this is paving the way for that. I think we are going to see frozen live action and tangled live action And Encantor live action Is Josh Gads the Snowman? Yes Okay, right

He could be a live action snowman I guess they could They all look like their characters Right Yeah but they're all like women in their 40s and 50s now So you'd be like Moana They haven't got original Moana Oh that's true

She's now in her mid-20s or whatever They've got Jay La Geyer's daughter Who is a person unto herself I recognise that But how old is Chris and Bell's character supposed to be They're supposed to be like late teens maybe Oh are they? Yeah, like early 20s maybe, yeah

I just assumed they were just like Dwarves No, just like an ageless... Because you did a short... No, no, just like an ageless character Like, it doesn't really matter how old they are No, I mean, I guess they're... I would say they're early to mid-20s at the most

Okay, everyone. How old is Elsa? Is Elsa old enough to date Mario, canonically 25? Elsa is 21 in the first Frozen movie and 24 in the second Huh. Which means Arna is 18. Okay. So there you go.

Okay. And now we know. Okay. And I was right. Chris and Annabelle was Veronica Mars for years, and she was supposed to be like... I could have been Veronica Mars. I don't see why you'd even bring that up. Well, you weren't.

Yeah, but I could have done it. Could you watch the audition? I did botched the audition, but I did on purpose so I didn't even want to do it. Well, you would have had to be away from, you know, your job at the servo at the time, probably. They wouldn't let me. They wouldn't let you, that's right. I was locked into a seven-year contract. That's right.

Oh, man. Anyway, my line a but worse. I'll see it. I will, because my kids will go, or at least one of my youngest will want to go to this. And you'll be like, should we cover it for content? And I'll be like, I guess. I guess so.

Don't worry, there's going to come a time when my kids grow up, and we don't have to do that anymore. So really, it's me dragging you into this, I feel. I love that. I mean, there was no reason to drag me into Wicked for Good, was there? It's the biggest movie of the year. What are you talking about? I mean, it is big movie.

It is undeniably big movie. movie. And we have, you know, as part of our commitment, our oaths, we have to cover big movie. We always cover big movie. Anyway, we're excited for this next. It's going to be on our gravestones. They always covered big movie. Rain, hail, or shine. That's right. And then we can have the characters from frozen, etched into the tombstone. Big movie. You know, it's a lot of our jokes. Is us like, it's been like this is our diet and this is what they've etched into our team. That's fine. That's fine. All right, as long as you're okay with it. Someone should be keeping track.

of that, because this is real. Okay, but is it the most recent thing we said, or is it the best one we said? Good question. I don't know. It's probably a graph he could do. It's probably a graph you could do. Oh, that reminds me. Yeah.

My friend Michael Williams. I love Michael Williams. He's doing a live show. So he's a stand-home comedian. He's a great stand-up comedian. I've been on his podcast, a couple of his podcasts. I've been on his podcast. He had a podcast called Sarah Michael Save Christmas, but he's a great comedian.

He does a lot of visual gags. He's got like a sketchpad and a whiteboard. He love graph jokes. I can't make it to this. But he has a show on the 29th of November in Melbourne. It's at the Motley Bowhouse. And it's the best of. And it's going to be, it's a 29th of November.

If you go to the motley.com.com. com.com. Like the motley crew? Yeah. Yes. I think so. But people should go to that. I can't make it.

But I think other people should go. It's a salute to Michael Williams. A salute to Michael Williams. It's all his best stuff. and he's going to film it for put it on the YouTube. Yeah, but don't look at it there if you can go. No, don't look at it there. It won't be as good on YouTube.

It'll be good live. It'll be way better live. It'll be good live. It'll be good live. If you can't make it to that, check out Moana Remake next year. Oh, absolutely. I mean, that's the next best thing is live action Moana Remake. Correct.

Remember the Rock at one point there was a rumor that he didn't want to actually be there and they were going to deep fake him in? No. We talked about this thing. Yeah. That's great. Yeah, great. So it'll be somebody else's body.

Yeah. And his face, but he didn't actually do anything. No, but he also is wearing somebody else's body because if you've seen the behind the scenes, he's wearing a muscle suit. Yeah, right. Because he's thinish now or whatever. Yeah, right, uh. But also he's doing Jumanji 3 again.

Jemongy. He didn't look that difficult. No, he didn't. There was a... Maybe they bulked up the shirt a bit. I don't know. Yeah, maybe they did a little press photo, all the four back together again.

Yeah. Or maybe that's just an old photo. No, I think it's a new photo. All right, then. Yeah. Mason, we also got a trailer for the Hunger Games prequel Sunrise. Hunger Grame's Requel Sunrise. Hunger of Grames Reakles, Sunrise on the Reaping.

That's right. This is a prequel to the Hunger Games series that focuses on a 16-year-old Hamish Abernathy, Woody Harrison's Wigan character. That's right. During the 50th Hunger Games, also known as the second quarter quell. The lead...

I would call it the 50th, 100 Googie Games. Is that what you've done? I would call it the 50th hundred giggy games. Yeah, that's probably not what I would have called. I would have said it correctly. No, I would have said 50th, 100, Gougar Games. The lead character of Haymich Abanathy is played by Joseph Zader, who's an Australian actor.

It's also got McKinna Grace L. L. Fanning, Jesse Plemons, who's playing Plutarch Heavens Club. That's right. Who was Phillips Emma Hoffman's character. Ray Fines is playing President Snow. That's right. Mayor Hawke is in this. She's playing wires. Wires.

Remember the idea of wires? No. I was she the older lady and she's like, oh, I don't want to fight, I just want to do wires. I love wires. Right. I love wires. Is she the old lady and she teams up with that guy? And he backpacks her around? Yeah. No.

Oh. Ah, they electrocuted. Sam Claflin. Is he in that? Sam Claflin is in that. And Glenn Close is in it. Glenn Close. And you couldn't tell if it was going to see what you watch the trailer because you weren't

watching Glenn Close enough. She was going far. Yeah. You got to hold your phone like this to your face. Like it's a VR headset. I've told you this, Mason. Man, she's missed a trick. She could have done some sort of ad campaign where she tells people to watch a thing

Glenn Close. Like Wollie Goggs is doing Wollie Goggles, Goggins or goggles, gogglesles. You know what the thing I don't like. about that. What? They're called Walton Goggins goggle glasses, right? Okay. Because what's happened there is somebody said, hey, Walton Goggins, Wally goggles, and we've all had a laugh. And then somebody's put that idea in his head. And then somebody's like, they've, they've come up with the idea and then someone's gone, people are going to understand what this is, that they're just glasses. Yeah. So they've had to become. Because they're going to think it's goggles. Yeah. But they're not goggles. But they're not

goggles. So then they've had to go, well, we'll have to put your full name in this. Yeah. And then we'll have to add glasses at the end. So it's ruined the bit. Yeah, it's not even a bit, really. No, it's not a bit. They should just be called Wally Goggles, and people who are in the know should buy the Wally Goggles

to support Walton Goggins. Wollie goggles. Because he wants to spread out, like he wants to make them. Wollie goggles sounds like a racist toy from like our childhood that our parents gave it. And then, is this okay?

And you still see him in thrift shops and whatever, and people like, why can't you buy these at the supermarket? I used to make these all the time, these wallie goggles. No, it's not racist. No, we all just having fun. We respect everything.

Yeah. But anyway, I'm saying they should be called Wolley Goggles. Okay. But he's drawn out the, they've had to dry out the umbrella to maximize sales, so they've had to change the name, and then it's not good anymore. It's not good anymore. Well, isn't that capitalism, Mason, that you're describing? Yes.

Wow. And why can't... As he drinks a Coca-Cola, mind you, this guy. Anyway, why can't we buy racist dolls anymore? You can. You can. You still can. There are certain towns that will sell you a racist doll. I'll be just straight up in the window.

Absolutely. If you know, you know. You know. Okay, just quickly on the Wollie-Goggle situation. Yes. Do they have to then, maybe they should have changed his name to Walton Glasses. Would that make you go? Nice, yes.

Or Walton Sun Glasses. So, thank you. But how about this? This is the general question. James, he could have gotten his son to sell them. Yeah. Does he have a son? I don't know.

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, he does. How old is he? I don't know. But then you can sell them through a shell company. Then you don't have to pay any taxes. A glasses shell. Yeah.

So they could have been called Walton's Sun's glasses. Oh, do you think they're good goggles? They're like ski chalet glasses. They're somewhere between like big speed dealer Oakley's and the kind of chalet goggles. They're not for me, James. I think people buy them and then like wear them out to the pub once. And people like, what do you wear?

And then they just sit on these shawlty goggles, glass, there's sunglasses, and they go, what? You go, it's a joke and they go, no, it's not. You know character actor Waltz's Goggins. He's the voice of Cyril on Invincible, they say. You know that, right? You know that at the very least. He was in one of the Bourne movies.

It was a background character. You know that at least. You know that? Yeah. He's in one of the white lotuses. Yeah, he was the ghoul in fallout season one and two. Didn't you see justified? I know that's mostly Timothy Oliphon.

You're thinking of Timothy Oliphant. Yeah. But no, Wally Goggs. Yeah, he's in that. And by then, all your friends have exited you from all the group chats. Because they're too busy buying goggles. That's right. They need more space on their phone.

More space. This trailer has shades, Hunger Games. Shades of Mid-Subes. I feel. Speaking of shades. Thank you. Goggles. We're getting back to that.

Do you want to go do another out of this goggles thing? We could. I don't mind. No, I don't mind either. I don't mind either, man. I'll do it. I know you'll do it. Midsummer.

It's got that kind of colour palais. This is Francis Lawrence, who directed all the Hunger Games movies, including the last prequel. Oh, yes. Which was what if President Snow got sad, and then he betrayed his friends with a bird that could record your voice or something. Oh, I forgot about the bird that could completely record everybody's voice. The voice memo bird

The voice memo bird That then goes to the capital And everybody hears it Or whatever This is out November of next year So this time next year But yeah I mean I like the Hunger Games movies

On the whole And I didn't mind that last one But I've always been interested In the story of Hay Bishamba Nathie Where did he get that wig How did he win the second quarter quell He used a magnetic fence or something Did he use a magnetic fence?

Yeah, it was part of the story I remember They shouldn't have supplied him With a magnetic fence No no he insisted He brought it with him They said you can bring it one thing And he said, I want a magnetic fence around the entire.

Yeah, can I have thousands of yards? Around me. Yeah, that's right. Just a magnetic fix around my body. Yeah, wow. Yeah. Cool. That's forward thinking.

I agree. Yeah. And the last trailer, which you shouldn't watch, is Project Hell Mary. I didn't watch it. This is from Director Phil Lord and Chris Miller. I've read the book, so I know the thing is spoiled in the first trailer. Yes. But it's even more spoiled in the second.

Double spoiled. Don't look at it. Don't look at it. I think it will be good, though. All right. It's got that Ryan Gosling Yes, I've heard of him

He's drive He's drive He's Lillaland He's Lillaland He's Larry Lillaland He's Larry Lillaland Correct, yes This is out in 2020

I'm just looking at a particular date That I just need a date, Mason What are we going on here? March 20th of next year Excited for this? This is again Phil Lord and Chris Miller Oh Larry

I know your father owns all of Lola Land but you're just a man Wow. That's it. That's a whole bit. That's great. They did the 20 Jump Street, guys.

Yes. They did that. They did that. Did you watch the after party? I never watched that. No, what was that? It was a TV show on like Apple. Oh.

Great stuff, Mason. It is great stuff. We've got one more bit of news. I'm excited for it. It's this. Well, we know, I know you know this. No, maybe I don't. That after Barbie was a big movie.

Big movie. Studios went, what's good? Toys. And so we've got a He-Man movie coming next year. We've got a Polly Pocket. movie coming next year. We've got a Hasbro Universe, which is doing both Hot Wheels and Matchbox. Have we seen anything out of this Polly Pocket

Pocket Movie? It's not like we've been looking or anything, but it's like, no, they've named some people. They've named some people. Okay, great. But yeah, the Hasbrook University. Sabrina Carpenter, she's pocket-sized. She's probably doing a pocket thing or something. I think she might be entangled or something. She's in the Muppets, the new Muppets thing or something? Is she? Maybe. Great.

Maybe. She's Muppet sized, isn't she? We're all Muppet sized. We're all Muppet sized. There's a Muppet for everybody. Really? Yeah. What if you don't want one? Too bad he's coming the house And he's one of the mean ones Good Yeah

The one would feel so bad When I beat him to death He's snuffalo up against Worse Worse than snuffalo off against He's got knives for hands What is he like Is he a mammoth or what

What is he? I don't know Fuck him Mason God This is why the Muppets Franchise is failing He's not even a Muppet

Adults children with hate in his heart He's a Sesame Street character That's independent of a Muppet He's not hanging out With like Statler and Ward Dolf or whatever the fuck He's not going on little inventions on riding a bike with Kermit.

Yeah, but he's got... Do you ever see Kermit even walk down Sesame Street? He's barely even there. He probably lives in fucking Manhattan and the special towel or whatever. I've seen him ride a bike. Yeah, we've all seen him ride a bike.

It was magical, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, Hasbro... He's still Muppets. You're probably right. Includes both Hot Wheels and Matchbox because they're different. Movies, they're separate.

It's a portmanteau. It's Munted Puppet. That's what Muppet means. That's so stupid We're also getting a magic eight ball movie And a viewfinder movie Come on What if that's the one that shocks us all

It is so good Like future generations are like Well there was a big explosion Of terrible movies based on But the viewmaster movie Wow You don't even people people don't even know what a viewmaster is

but it was... What a movie. Yeah, what a movie. Let me figure out because I remember seeing a name associated with this and where it's... I'm doing view finder.

It's view master, isn't it? Like you said. God, I always hated them as a kid. It's just looking at a picture. Phil Johnson, and it is a four quadrant picture written by Phil Johnston. I don't know.

What's he done? I did the Twits recently. My kids hated the Twits. There was a new The Twits movie. Yeah, I saw a second of it. They were like, this sucks. The animation style was kind of interesting. Yeah, now like it's gross and weird

and not like the book and whatever. Wasn't the book gross? Yeah, but they bring in other characters or whatever, I see, right. Whatever. Anyway, now Sony are developing a LaBoooo movie. That's my point. That's what we're leading up to. I'm not even 100% sure what a Lubbubu is.

Have a look. I mean, I know what it is, but I don't know where it's come from. Well, the studios acquired the screen while you're looking it up. Scream rights to the brand and exploring potential franchises. No creative team is attached. And none will be. No, and no idea whether this is animated or live action. I would also say no idea whether this thing

will still be a thing by the time this comes out in 2029 or whatever Because this could go the way of beanie babies You know Like does anyone gonna care about Lubbubu in 20209 Was there a beanie babies anything cartoon or anything? No, because it kind of haven't freed that So Labubu's are a line of collectible plush toys

Created by Hong Kong Illustrator Kasing Lung You don't need to tell me twice But there's nothing I guess I assumed it was a manga thing But it's uh Well as someone who knows everything about manga I knew that wasn't true. Wow. Yeah.

Wow. I mean, I guess like, but what is like... Oh, and they're blind box figures. So you buy the box and you don't know what's going to be able to. Okay. My daughter saw that and I'm like, do you like these? And she's like, hide them. Yeah.

But some people are like, oh, this thing's hideous. I love it. No. Yeah, okay. So that's how you got your last girlfriend. Come on, man. That's what you told me. Yeah.

That's interesting because they have become this. And there's lots of collaborations, I think, like a lot of fashion brands are like We've got a limited additional labo, it's $1,000 or whatever. That's pretty good, actually. Balenciaga Labubu, whatever. Wow, that's classic. Which is my drag name, by the way, Balenciaga Labibu. Really?

Yeah. Congratulations. Thanks, man. I guess, you know, yep. Anything can be your movie, technically. Oh, there is a Balenciaga Labibu. Well, I didn't think you were joking. Oh, maybe these are a fan mate.

I don't know. I don't know, man. I remember there was like Balenciaga, Harry Potter, like, fucking AI videos for a time. That was the thing that took off. That's great. God, I hate this. But you love it also.

I hate Harry Potter. You love the creativity though, is what you always tell me. Well, at least people are being creative, yeah. All right, Mason, should we move it along? Of course we should, because you know why. Why? Big movie. Big movie.

Big movie. Big movie. Mason's resentful of. I didn't like it. Big resentful movie. Wicked. For good. It's the sequel to Wicked for one.

And so that was a movie that came out last year. It was a big movie. That's true. They filmed them both back to back. This one, like, I should have called it Wicked too good. Maybe. It's too good.

That would be a lie, though, wouldn't it? Yeah, maybe. Budget $150 million, like the first one. Okay. Box office, the US, looks like it's going to make at least $150 million on its opening. The first one made $112.5 million, so this is obviously bigger than that. It could go as high as like 180, which means it would be the biggest opening of the year. It would beat a Minecraft movie, which came at 162.7.

But that had the young people going on. The young people. This got young people. Either way, this is the biggest opening for a Broadway adaptation ever, the biggest being the last Wicked movie. More than Les Miserables? More than Leslie Miserable. Wow.

Yeah. Wow. a cool recap but didn't didn't do it did you watch an uncool recap no well what do do you think the story was then that must have been hard for you to do oh yeah okay so the last movie wicked for good wicked for one so this is just wicked for one yeah um it's microwave wicked for one um so galinda and elphabar yeah went to school yep for a really really long time they did go to school most of the movie yeah but then alphabar Can do real magic, but Galinda cannot do real magic.

Can't do it. But Michelle Yo, she can do cloud magic. You can do cloud magic. But some of them were in love with some other people. Yeah, some were. Some were in love with Arianda Grande's real life boyfriend. Yeah. And some people were in love.

Well, maybe. Some people are saying they're not together anymore. You gossipy bitch. I didn't make up any of this. And some people were in love with sexist man alive, Jonathan Bailey. Yeah. And then they were in love with other people, probably, I think. Everybody was looking at it.

Very sexy. It's very high school, even though this is university, I think. It's university and they're all in their 30s or whatever. But then they went to see the wizard. Yeah, what's he up to? And then the wizard was like, oh, do you want to do animal racism with me? Oh, that's right. I forgot there was a bunch of animal racism in the last one as well.

And he was like, do you want to do more animal racism and evil magic? And she was like, I don't want to do evil magic. No, look at this. This is an alphabet. Look at this octagonal book or whatever. Yeah, but then, so then he's like, what if we said you were a wicked witch? Yeah. And she's like, I don't like that.

And he said, well, I'm going to do it. Yeah, and I'm doing it. We're going to do a big PR campaign. Anyway, that's why we left the last one. And she did define gravity. She defied gravity. Did define gravity. And then in this one, they're like, well, we better wrap this movie up then.

We're going to start. And we're going to wrap this movie up as fast as we can, which is in two and a bit hours. Yeah. I didn't feel the length of it as much as the first one. It is literally shorter. Uh-huh. But there's not as many good songs, I feel. That's what people have been saying.

And they're right. Yeah. The second act is, yeah, not as strong in the music. Because the musical stops at the same point. I read recently, they asked Craig Mason, the creator of Chernobyl and some bad stuff. Chernobyl. He was apparently on board early on when it was going to be one movie. And he's basically...

Wicked for one movie. Yeah, and his number one note was you've got to split it into two movies. Because the second half of Wicked, it's sort of a rush and a mess. And so you've got to give it more time. Okay, that makes sense, I guess. And that probably is a good idea, but also it still felt like, I don't know, man. So in this one... I'm getting the sense here that maybe this is not your favorite movie of 2025.

It is, though. Oh, okay. I misread that. I apologize. Okay, but what happens in this one? Okay, so there, she's, she's, she's, uh, Elphabas, she's in her, she's found a little hiding place. She's got a little headquarters.

She wants to stop all the animal racism. And also stop everybody saying that she's evil all the time. Yep. Every time she tries to pretend that she's say that she's not, Eve, it's working on me, this PR. Yeah, yeah. Every time she says she isn't, somebody puts up a sign or whatever that says actually she is evil. Yeah. And they're building the yellow brick road.

They're building the yellow brick road. And the wizard's like, I don't know, there's some not even magic. I'm a conman. All I can do is make miraculous machines. They can do anything. Like a couch that can fly in a bubble or whatever. But he's a con man. He is a con man. Even though he can do literally anything.

Yes. Yeah. Yes. How does it make the bubble if you're not in it? Is there an outside button? Because the bubble machine, you step onto the machine, you press the bubble button, and then put you in a bubble. I think at one point, Michelle Yo, like, kicks an outside button

that makes the bubble go up. Okay. Oh, yeah, you probably, that did absolutely happen. But also, it seems like a very vulnerable device to be in because somebody could pop it with like a pebble or something. I think it could still fly, though. The bubbles just... Oh, then the bubble's just for show.

Yeah, well. To show. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's... Oh, you know, that's your defense of this movie, is it? Well, I'm not here to defend it. I understand it's appeal. I get why people like it.

It's a good musical. It's way too drawn out. I understand that aspect of it. I really struggled with the length of the first one. Like, it really burnt me out. So this one is shorter. How much shorter? Maybe 10 minutes.

But all that running around a school. Because, again, like I said... This is her just running between different hideouts. That's true. Yeah, but in the first one, like, it's an hour. If you watch the show, it's like an hour, and then there's an intermission. You're talking the live show. live show and this is based on a musical a live stage music which is based on a book which is based

which isn't the original wizard of Oz it's based on the book from the 90s that was a different perspective or whatever yeah yeah so that like that really hurt me physically I remember being there and my son was with me and I didn't take him to this one because I'm like he didn't love the last one and so it was so I didn't feel it felt like direct all you hate to your do everybody direct their hate to your son he doesn't mind you'll accept it doesn't care about anything but um so yeah in that sense that like it felt like it moved forward for me even though it was running between different hideouts right but there's still the problems from the musical and like a bunch of the wizard of us stuff that they have to shoehorn in well i was gonna say because they

have to do the dorothy thing and after the slippers let me let me tell you what i i was gonna say i'll get to that i'll tell you what i liked about this movie i think the production design is great incredible i mean some of it is shared with the previous movie i think the costumes are incredible i'm sure i talked about this last time you know there can be a scene with a hundred extras and they all have a different like very curly haircuts. I don't have the costume design here but they did incredible work.

I'll bring it up. Everything looks, it's like every character is the star of the show kind of thing in terms of costuming. Everybody gets like the costume the main character would get in any other kind of movie. You know what I mean? It's incredible. This is Paul Tazewell.

There we go. So great job. Ethan Slater at one point has a little brown tweed number. Oh wow. You know when he goes to the train. station. He tries to leave. I'm trying to leave. I'm Munchkin. It's got a little, it's sort of brown and then it becomes plaid at the bottom. I'm like, that's

a Primo. That's a Primo looking sight. Oh, my God. And he didn't know that we're going to do Munchkin racism, which is just racism against people with curly red hair and freckles. It's true. Yeah, we had the Munchkin race as well. I mean, it's more Munchkin, we won't let you leave. Because I'm in love with you or whatever. Yeah, because somebody else is in love with him.

Elphaba's sister is in love. Sure. With him. She sucks. Well, we'll see, so here's the thing. Good, representing. presentation person in a wheelchair who sucks yeah i think that's absolutely right so the thing about that that i really felt in this one is that is that they really had to check a bunch of boxes and they had to do it really quickly yeah because as you said there is a bunch of characters that are in the wizard of oz that are not in this yet so they have to introduce them in however

whatever means they can and there's a bunch of characters who are not in the wizard of oz that are in this so how do we get rid of them as quickly so they're not in the wizard of oz so they're not in the Wizard of Oz, and sometimes there's a cross over there. We'll just get one character and say they've become another character. Yes. And we'll just do that very quickly. One of my other criticisms of this was that the plot is very, and it comes from that, is the plot is very

contrived. Yeah, it's musical theatre. Exactly, it's musical theatre, which is like sub-superhero movie. Yeah. You know, a plot-wise. It's just to get... Misunderstandings. And somebody said... I thought you were good now. Yeah, exactly. Somebody says the wrong word or somebody trips and kills somebody else or whatever it is

and it's like well that's somebody does a magic spell and they turn into a tin man the joy or the you know the idea of all that is you they just need to say in a live show you just need to say enough words so everybody can jump on stage into a big spectacular musical number and fireworks can go off or whatever and you go wow this was a live experience but this isn't a live experience no and I didn't and you're supposed to be like well I'm blown away by these songs but they're not as good there's nothing as good good as defiant gravity, which is crazy.

And there's new songs in this. I couldn't tell you which ones, but there are. Maybe the one she sings to the animals about animal racism. No, no, no. More, let's have more animal racism. Or animal racism. I mean, less animal racism. I misspoke then.

I understand that could have come across negatively. Didn't you say more animal racism? Yes, I did, but. I meant less animal racism. You didn't let me finish. I mean, the leads are still good. Yeah. I know they haven't a hell of a press tour or whatever's going on there.

It feels really hectic and strange. And I don't know the specifics of it. I'm not really. I haven't also, like, I've just caught glimpses of it. I haven't been following it like meticulously. I hope nobody falls down the stairs at a red carpet premiere or something because they are going to shatter. Oh my God, yeah. But you know, like there's that guy influencer who like rushed out to like grab Ariana Grande and it's whatever.

What are you doing? Like shit like that. It's like, well, see, that's the, that is the double edge sort of standard. culture is that everybody's going to see this and of course you know general audience as well because they like the last one uh you know it's a bit of fun but again i there's to me there is there is more to the there's a there's a lot of fun and the idea of a of a live musical and everybody's got their places and everybody sings a great song and they're all choreographed dancing and they've got to do animal racism exactly and they've got to do the animal racism song and and and the fireworks

go off and they've got one you know every night they've got one chance to do it do it and everybody pulls it off amazingly. And it's tight. But in this... It's in an hour 40. You can do a million takes and it looks a lot of it. There's a scene, there's a moment in this where Elphabur is singing one of her songs and it ends with a million flying monkeys and there's all this fire and I'm like, I don't

care because none of this is real. I don't, this would be, if you did this live, I'd be like how they get the flying monkeys through all the rings of fire or whatever. That's crazy. But there's nothing to do this. Fair enough, yeah. You're more impressed, it seems, by, like, the stagecraft of it than the CGI flying monkeys and animals and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I can understand that. I like Jeff Goldman as the wizard still. And, like, he is, there is a moment where he's like, I'm not a bad guy. And she's like, no, you are a bad guy. And it's like, yeah, he doesn't believe he's a bad guy, even though he's doing animal racism. That's correct. Yeah, show you also is good. But it's, yeah, it does feel, you know, they're kind of like two demands.

dimensional theatre characters. There'll be characters like in that scene there's a character where there's in that sequence there's they're talking about

well you are an evil person and then he's like what if I wasn't one and then they all sing and dance whatever and it's like well yeah that yeah and then they find the animal racism is doing

even more radical racism room yeah but I feel like all of the stuff and this is the same in the actual stage show which I've seen twice and I saw it maybe

a couple years ago the Wizard of Oz stuff like Dorothy comes in and you have to work around that and then you have to justify like why is Dorothy wearing those shoes oh they were a sister's shoes because her sister was the one who's the house fell on

before that happened she wasn't really a wish but she declared herself that she was gonna she was the witch of the east or whatever and there's a whole there's probably 10 minutes of this where Elfabah goes into an insane rage and has to be like get me those shoes and it's like that's only it

that is a stage musical get me the shoes and she captures Dorothy and puts her in a, like, a cell or whatever. And it's like, it feels very out of character for this person who doesn't like animal racism. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, so there's some stuff to talk about in spoilers, I think.

What I would say is, um, as some, look, obviously the people who love the last one are going to see the next one and they should enjoy it and love it and what have you. They should. If you watch the last one and like me were like, I'm largely indifferent to this, uh, you don't have to see this one. I don't think it adds really anything. I agree.

You can sort of, you can kind of, you can kind of, of like me you could kind of guess where most of it was going it does it's it's not again the songs aren't as good etc so if you didn't say if you don't want to see it and you're a completionist you don't have to but i would also say if your significant other is excited about seeing this this isn't the time you can ruin it this isn't the time to take a principled stand on anything just go and see it you know what i mean yeah don't be like well i heard it was mad from a podcast so i'm not going i don't even think i'd be good at it just go and see it she she she I say she.

Maybe he sat through all those Marvel movies with you. They probably sat through all the Marvel movies with you. Either of you could be a man or a woman or other. But, you know, we know. We know. And look, we know that she sat all through all the Marvel movies with you a man. But also, like, there's probably not going to be another one of these, maybe. He's saying there could be.

We'll talk about it. But I am going to say on the proviso that if you liked the first one, and you like this world and you like the stage play, I guess, which I don't think it is as good as, then yeah, this is a best movie ever, but I also 100% agree with you. If you don't care about this at all,

and you're not a musical theatre person, this is not going to turn you around on any of that, I feel. It's just going to irritate you. Yeah, I mean, there's... I think it's pretty spectacular, though, and I think there's some heartfelt moments, I think of work. There are movie musicals that I do like a lot,

but this isn't one of them. Well. Alash for me, it is the worst movie ever. I'm going to say best movie ever. Well, I don't think it's the best movie ever, so it must be the worst movie ever. Sorry to... I also don't think it's the best movie ever, but it is to me, the best movie ever, I understand. Let's do some spoilers.

Okay. Do you want to talk about how everybody becomes the Tin Man and... Oh, yes. So, of course, as we said, the... We haven't yet seen in this any of the characters from, or any of the main characters from the Wizard of Oz. We don't want to say them. So we need a Tin Man, we need a scarecrow. We saw the cowardly line, I guess, last.

Yeah, just a line. And so anyway, Dorothy shows up. Oh, Galinda's sister's like, well, I'm the governor, but also I'm an evil witch, which is a bad thing to say, because there's only one other witch in the Wizard Wars universe, and she gets crushed to death by a house. And so she just does. A woman in a wheelchair gets crushed your death by a house. But she does fly for a second.

Oh, my shoes. They've gone different. I can fly briefly. What is the legal status of the shoes? Because in the books they're silver, but for a reason that I can't remember, they're red in the original movie. They change it for the movie,

you know, something to do with the Technicolor thing or whatever. And that means MGM, whoever has that, owns the rights to that particular version, which means I think that's why in this they're mostly silver. There is a moment where some magic happens and they turn red briefly. So I guess that doesn't fall within the purview of... Yes, that's right.

Emerald slippers or whatever. Just the lawyers slaving over this being like, I'm in the best time of my life. Okay, we can have them turn red. We can have them turn red for 30 seconds, but the character has to say, my shoes are on fire, and that's why they're red.

That's why they're red. I don't think this is permanent. I don't think this is their natural state of being. I think they've turned red for a fair use amount of time. So, yeah, Ethan Slater turns into the tin woodsman, who, again, I believe in the books, the original Wizard of Odds books, he was a woodsman who accidentally chopped off enough pieces of himself and he had to replace

them with metal and then he became the tin woodsman or something like this but in this elf of his sister just casts a spell on him and it doesn't go well and it's going to shrink his heart yeah um she's like i'll fix it elphaba cast another spell and it turns him into the tin man he's like well i'm the she's like i fixed him yeah not really he's the tin man now's way worse i didn't there wasn't enough tin stuff in that room to turn him fully into a tin man interesting there might have been some tin stuff that you didn't see or identify perhaps there was some tin stuff under the floorboards exactly yeah uh cal the line as you mentioned is the lion jonathan um bailey sexiest man of life yeah took the crown from john krasinski oh right nonsense

i know i've said this earlier yes but if john krasinski can be in the running i think we or me specifically oh yes should be able to be in the running oh yes do you think hmm interesting if he can do it sexless john krasin Oh, I see, yep. All I'm saying, that's all I'm saying. Just put my name in. Put your name in, yeah. Yeah, I'm not saying I should win.

Okay. I shouldn't. I'm not even sexier than John Skrinsky, but if that's, you know, if that's like the breadth of what I'm talking about here. He had almost a decade of TV appearances where he was a, you know, a beloved charismatic character on TV, whereas you've had over a decade of podcast appearances where you're like a crank. You know what I mean? Is that not something that they could consider though? Although they will consider it, for sure. All right.

But anyway, Jonathan Bailey is being, he gets taken away by the guards. He doesn't have to either. Because she's magic. Yeah, the Emerald City guards show up to arrest Elphabar. And then he's like, don't do it. I'll shoot everybody if you do that. Now you can go, you fly away, Elfabar. And she's like, I can't leave you.

And he's like, well, just do it anyway. What's this whole place like four square miles also? Well, yeah, I was going to say. And then so they get, so one of the guards is like, put him up on that scarecrow holder. Yep. Go there. And then she flies away and then she casts a spell. She's like, I'll do a spell so you can never be harmed by anything.

And he gets turned into what I'm calling burlap Billy Idol. Who doesn't look anything like the scarecrow in the original movie or any subsequent movie. Well, neither does like return to Oz. and whatever. He looks... Do you think that's CGI? Do you think they're putting sticking burlaps down on?

No, that's CGI. That was all CGR. I don't think he was there at all. Wow. Take that Jonathan's sexiest man alive. Anyway, so I guess after the events of the Wizard of Oz and Dorothy goes home,

he just goes and lives with Elphaba. But then does he come back for return to Oz? No. Does he break up with her before return to Oz? The wicked witch doesn't come back for return from Oz either. Because she goes off into the desert or something. But I'm saying isn't the scarecrow in return to all?

Oh, shit. Sorry, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, this is not connected. This is a different. This is a multiverse. No, I'm yeah. Of course it is.

Oh, I'm yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, anyway. So, okay, also I had a question. Oh, yeah. So, Dorothy leaves the town after crushing Elphabah's sister to death with a house.

Sick. Then she leaves. And then, like, there's like 15 minutes where Jonathan Bailey gets sent up to the, the, the, the, the field to be turned into a scarecrow. And then Dorothy, how slow is Dorothy moving? I actually don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. It's a good question.

Somebody should map that out. Yeah, somebody should map. But also anyway, she gets all her companions in the background. And then we... They didn't have to do that show down there, did they really? Oh, there's a stick fight. There's a stick in which... Oh, there is a stick in which fight, yes.

Yeah. That's pretty good. Then, what happens is... Yeah, I'm ready. Dorothy is told by the wizard Get the broom. To get the witch, kill the witch and get the broom. And the rumor is that if you splash the witch with water,

the wicked witch of the west, Elphaba, she's so impure that any water will kill her. So we see, I have a scene where Dorothy splashes the witch. Yep. And then she dies. She melts away, like in the movie. Like in the movie, Wizard of Oz. And then the movie ends, mostly. And then Jonathan Bailey's Burlap Billy Idol shows up and opens like a hatch.

the floor and he goes, well, you're not dead. Yeah. Had that happen. I guess magic. No, she goes into the floor. She climbs into the floor. She climbs into the wall. They're all in on it, except for the tin man on the line who aren't in on it.

They're not in on it. It's weird that like, you got turned it to a scarecrow. He's on the side of the wicked witch. What happened to his brain? Yeah, exactly. I don't think any of that is actually true, I guess. Well, I mean, it's all fictional. It's all fictional.

Well, that's part of it, I guess. And then he's like, that's all of it. I guess I'm just going to go on this adventure. Yeah. Like, why? You'd think you'd be like I'm going to go back to my girlfriend The Wicked Witch of the West

Yeah that's sick I love that Yeah We're gonna make out Yeah What's he working with I don't know man I don't like it

Maybe like Scratchy You know like one of those Those heat packs That you put in the microwave They're filled with seeds or whatever I guess that's not as bad As what I was thinking of

Which was just a fistful of straw Yeah What's in those heat packs Beads Beads or beans Sure Yeah Yeah

The Wizard of Oz is Alphabet's father. Yeah, we knew. We all knew. Because he was drinking a green drink and she's green and then we get a de-age version. This is his famous green drink. But he's addicted too. Yeah. It's magical or whatever.

And yeah, so we see him de-age and it's like, and he's like, I have to go home now. And then he does. I have to be in a fly. I have to go on the, yeah, have to get him. David Cronenberg's the fly. I'll be back.

But also, like, the whole Wizard of Oz doesn't make sense because the house. Yes, James. It's a dream within a dream. Yeah, but it's made just like logically. Yeah. Because like the house is right. The house flew and landed and killed this woman in a wheelchair. Because Michelle Yo summoned it. Yeah, because Michelle Yo summoned it.

Where is the land? But then when Dorothy goes back, her house isn't gone. That's a good, that's a great point because it's a dream within a dream. But also everybody in the real world looks like, but is this like a, what's that Jordan Pill movie where there's like two versions of you? Is that this where you got like a parallel version of yourself running around? Who's a scarecrow and you're not, you're a farmhands? Where is the land of Oz set?

Because it's in America. In America? Kansas. No, because they say we're not in Kansas. I just remember it. Right, right, right, right. I just remember. But I'm saying that where, like, because it's, I believe,

okay, according to the Oz wiki, the land of Oz is in, it's over the rainbow, yes, I know Oswiki. We know that. It's a far off country behind the moon and beyond the rain. Oh, come on. man. I thought it was in America. It's just in a different realm.

I don't think it is in America, man. Okay. According to Baum, Elframt Bown, which is why Elfab is called Elfabah. Oz truly does exist and is located somewhere on the planet Earth that can never be found. It's cut off from the rest of the world surrounded by all four sides by a vast desert, which is where Elphabur and Jonathan Baylor go. Oh, so you can cross that and then go to wherever. Yeah, it's surrounded by all sides. Yeah.

Fascinating stuff. Yes. And it's also beyond the moon and whatever. And it's also surrounded by magical barrier. Wow. It makes it invisible, like Wakanda. Like Wakanda. This is my deadline.

This is Wicked for Good writer Dana Fox. Oh, for good. Asked about the sequel. And she said, I love the idea that we could meet up with them again, some day. My daughter personally wants a prequel. So I do what my kids say. I'm like, sure, a prequel sounds good. This is a prequel.

But honestly, it would be an honesty involved in any of it happened, if any of it happened. But again, sometimes I think the best things in life are the ones. you want to take care of like they're their most delicate treasures and sometimes that means not stepping on what's very, very good. Good. Here's some reviews from people we know

in the planet broadcast, no, great mates group. Callum for Folk says, It's amazing. I thought the first one was perfect and this one just felt like a continuation. The darker tone really works well. Works out of the chemistry between everyone is still great.

I probably prefer the song from part one in general but there are still some bangers, definite best movie ever. Well, I'm glad you liked it. Paul Ace says it's good better than the first one in fact this one has more drama and it's shorter so the pace is better also mason should stop pretending he doesn't watch the rookie

Brad Hendrickson I'd rather watch an episode of the rookie yeah you watch it actually that's not true I probably all right given the choice Brad says such a letdown the first one had such great development really used that 2 around 40 minutes oh wait it's 240 fuck to its advantage this one was just okay you get it now we get to the end go go go go go go go go go go go go

Mike Mollock says I really didn't vibe with this movie at all I enjoyed the first movie, but I do wish I skipped this one. It felt like it just wants to do undo everything from the Wizard of Oz, and it's such a rush to do it, worst movie ever. And Brittany Dawson, Roxas says, I fear this one is for me, mates. I cried a lot. I loved all things Oz.

I've read all the wicked books and seen the stage show three times. I've been listening to the soundtrack since I was a kid. That being said, I felt like this movie was slow. The first movie was slow, and this one was moving too fast. Mine of thought since I left the theaters. Jeff Goldman's de-aging was horrible even for half a second. The Scarecrow Burlap Face. freaked me out, and I don't know how else you'd make a scarecrow, but I don't know how else

you'd make a scarecrow look. I love the silhouette, killing of the wicked witch. They also do them in the musical, I think. And that's how it's done. Oh, here we go. That's how it's done the show also. I like that they kept that. The two new songs didn't need to be there. They were fine. My theatre had collective gasps multiple times. I love witnessing people experience the story for the first time. The Tin Man transition, the wizard being Alfa of his father. Alfa being a live, we're all gasped at. There you go. Even stupid people appreciate this. People who can't understand media or not this person I should say

people who don't predict plot twists if you can't predict a plot twist I can't respect you everyone everyone in the planet broadcasting great mates group terrific surrounded by normies surrounded by normies in the cinema

exactly I like that review from Brittany because it's like clearly like a diehard fan and like a lot of stuff that she liked and appreciated but also like not necessarily these parts so I think that's I think that if you are a fan of that I think that's a good kind of summarise of the whole thing. But again, like I said,

surrounded by noobs. Don't make a stand on this one. Just see the movie. You can see it. You see it. All right, should we move to the next segment of the show? Let's move it along. Can you tell me about it?

It's called what we're reading. What else is it called? What are we going to read? It's called those two things? Yes. All right. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today?

Mason, this is great. It is great for the podcast. It's great for the community. What have you been reading, watching? doing listening to I watched the movie Die My Love Oh

I went to the cinema over and I saw it A bit of an indie movie So it's directed by Lynn Ramsey She directed The movies you would know She directed you would never really hear Which is the one about

Joaquin Phoenix And he's uh Sorry Moise Oh yeah It's not a personal attack on you I mean I'd just say There's barely been a time

And I'm not here Okay It's whyan Phoenix He's a mercenary He loses mind of it And he also directed We need to talk about Kevin I love with that

I mean, I love it. It's horrible. Ezra Miller's best movie. Yeah, best movie they've been in. But this is about, I love, so it's about, it's Jennifer Lawrence and Robert Pattinson. They're a couple, and he's a musician and she's a writer, and he inherits a place in like a really run-down ramshackle house in Montana from his uncle, and they go to live there because it's like, oh, it'll be perfect. But then they have a kid, and they're all, everything falls off the rails. she has postpartum depression and everything

it's just, it's a real... How much of this movie was you going, get over it? Oh, all of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just don't have that. This is something personal to Jennifer Lawrence, is it because I think it with her second kid. Oh, yeah, right, okay.

She got her with that pretty hard, yeah. Yeah, right. It's very intense. I heard the fights are really good. Yeah, there's some very... Well, I mean, they feel very personal and real kind of thing. And, yeah, like, it's... What I think it's a...

Like, it's clearly they're two very kind of, like, damaged people or they're very kind of and they seem to sort of thrive on chaos and I don't know it's about that sort of interacting with you know a very mundane normal life when not a lot happens

absolutely and she you know she's got the postpartum depression but like if it was possible for a man to also have that Robert Pattinson would also have that yeah kind of thing and they're both acting out in strange ways it's good movie all right it's really it's worth of watch I think well I also saw a depressing movie oh yes go on it's called small things like these is by

Tim Myelance. Oh yes. He's worked on Pecky Blinders and he also did. There's a new movie Steve on Netflix with... Steve? Steve. What's his name? Steve.

Mr. Peeky Blinders. Killian Murphy. So this is a movie he made last year. Mr. Peaky Blinders. Oh, it's about the church. Yeah. So basically it's in 1985 and there's this guy called Bill played by Peeky Blinders. And he delivers his coal around town.

He's just a, he's got like four daughters. He's like a working class, like Irish guy in this small town. But you find it a bit about his upbringing as it kind of goes on. And it kind of is folded into this story of there's this nunnery in town which takes in wayward mothers. And it's basically women who don't have husbands who got pregnant. Right. But, you know, what's really going on there and all of that.

So he becomes... Dance parties. Dance parties for a lot of it. But other times, it's more bad things that aren't as good. Yeah. And like the whole town is under the grip of like the, church and this nunnery and just like this institution that is just always been there infinite money like if you want if you've got a kid they have to go to this school which

means you have to be on the side of everybody so he's kind of torn between like sounds like the body suburbs mate so he's kind of torn between he's a not he's nobody yes he's not like he's a guy that delivers coal that's literally his job and but he's seeing these things like he's getting glimpses of like what is happening here what's he going to do about yeah and if he's going to step in and like and it's about kind of kind of of like, it's child or trauma, but it's also like how minor acts of kindness like can kind of ripple down through generations. It's really great. Like, it's very sad, but it's also... Would you say it's a real pay it forward situation? Yeah, it's like the movie

pay it forward with Kevin Spacey. Yes, I would say that. Yeah. Um, so yeah, that's, that's where it's at for me, Mason. We both watched some very artful movies. It's true. Artful movies of the deal, if you were. I were. He is everybody. He was and he is. Do you think that's enough things that we've watched or have you got other things you've watched? Other things you've watched. I haven't watched anything else I don't think. Okay. I've been recommended a comic book called Superman the Kryptonite Spectrum. It's by creative team who did

and I think maybe they're continuing to do it. Ooh, so Superman does different things to him, etc. Yes, but they did a, the creative team did a series called Ice Cream Man. I know Ice Cream Man. Which is a, kind of a surreal. Well, it's kind of like a surreal fantasy situation. It's a series of one-shots, like creepy horror one-shots. I didn't finish reading that, but I think I might... I'm going to read the kryptonite spectrum,

and then I'm going to get back to Ice Cream Man. Ice Cream Man. Okay, all right. Cryptonite Spectrum. If you've read it out there, let us know. 4 new kryptonites have been discovered in deep space, and Superman, it's not what they do. Oh, interesting. Because they did a sort of one of the Ice Cream Man

short stories is a sort of a Superman pastiche kind of thing and I'm like and I remember reading that and going these guys do get Superman so in a weird way so I'm excited to read that I wish they'd do an ice cream Superman story but this is good enough I guess good enough for regular really good enough for me Mason yeah I'm happy to move to another segment

that's something that you're also happy with well we only have one more segment to go should we do that one or a different one you got any other ideas for new I don't have any other ideas I've used all my ideas I tapped out of ideas like 10 years agreed all right well let's do the same idea that we always have, which by the way is a good idea. I mean, it was always a great idea.

That's right. And we were the first people to come up with it. Agreed. It's called Letters. And it has a theme song that you play from your phone. First person who ever did that. Agreed. The classic one was Letters. Oh, letters. We love you. Some letters. They're only a take away.

We're going to hear right now. We're going to do Letters. Mason, this is great. It's a great segment. It's a hit for a reason. It doesn't need to be replaced. Even if we had a good idea, which we We do. We have so many of good ideas. Yeah. But this is a letter segment.

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That's weekly PlanetPod at Gmail.com. That's right. Use offer code Mason, 10% off your next email to Mason. Yes. I simply will not read the last 10%. so that's good though i guess but what if they just packed the last 10% with nonsense filler and then i end up reading the whole email it's not important anyway here's an

email from leum leum hey guys in wicket for good yes not part two do you think they pulled an auntie donner in d and inserted region specific animals for different locations i'm considering the koala and sugar glider as suspicious to be honest that kangaroos are probably par for the course because there is a moment that it is a movie full of animal racism but there's a moment where all the animals get to live and run free

and there is just a straight up shot of a koala and a sugar glider sort of flies in I didn't even notice you didn't see the koalas right there you were asleep

it's like a solid shot of the koala I'd love to take a solid shot of a koala just right in the ribs just you know what I mean it would let you too it would it great what do you think

I don't think it's reaching specific no yeah okay i think there's just a bunch of different animals that people could recognize i didn't see any animals in there that like don't know what that is yeah right yeah yeah i also think like i mean it would be nice to know for sure but i think i don't know koala koala is an animal that people all over the world just go aw yeah it's also like it's expensive to cg i an animal as opposed to just doing a voice oh yeah that's true actually auntie donna will do it for free that's true we know that well i mean they as we have mentioned i think did they mention it when they were on the podcast yeah they came on They had to, all the animation, because they played the voices of some zombies in a graveyard in that movie.

Yeah, but just the Australian version. Just the Australian version, because they got local comedians to do it in every other nation so they could do the promo for the movie in those kind of... And it worked. It made a billion dollars. Made a billion dollars. Very successful. Those two freaks and geeks. They're doing a Star Trek now. But because they'd already done the animation of the faces of the zombies, whoever did the voice acting had to match that exactly. So to a certain, so it was really not, like they couldn't, they couldn't riff or do anything, you know, to make them even recognisable. They pretty much had to adopt the same voice. Last time we were here, they talked about it and how, because it was Mark and Zach.

Yes. And they talked about how they got to go to the red carpet. That's right. And they kept promising them to meet Chris Pine and they're like, we're not bothered. It's a good episode if you want to listen to it. Absolutely. So no, I don't think it is. But maybe.

Mike Smart said In advance of the Lone Ranger Caravanagh Garbage That's right That's not this week This week's John Carter But it'll be next week Best Westerns

Not the hotel brand You got some best westerns Ah 3-tentia It's terrific The newer one Yeah the newer one I've never seen the old one I mean old school westerns

The Searches is great Old School's a good movie It's funny Oh yeah You seen the searches I don't think I have Anything directed by John Ford is a great Western

John Ford The Car Yes I prefer Holden Nissen The director Yes The film director. I mean, Butch Cassie, I know I bring it up every time. Unforgiven's great.

Yes. The Spaghetti Western trilogy, whatever they're called. The Dollars trilogy is. Yeah, they're good. No country's great. It's a modern one. What's the one? The heart of they fall.

It's on Netflix. Which one's that one? It's very African-American. Oh, I like that one. It's got all sorts of cool dudes in it, and it's a very good Western. Yeah, that's right. The Idrisalba one. Yes.

That's a good one. Seven, Magnificent Seven's good. It's a classic. Hell or Highwater. That's a good modern one. That's great, yes, Chris Pine. That's Chris Pine once again. Brokeback Mountain, that's a good one.

The Power of the Dog, that's a good one. Also gay, like, Brokeback Mountain. Tombstone is, I mean, Tunisdine's a certified classic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just going to say, a Kevin Costner one, because I'd feel like he'd want that. He want us to acknowledge that he's done a bunch of westerns. Oh, for sure, yeah. Just whatever one he'd, that last one he did that went for four hours or whatever.

That was never finished. Yeah. Did they, the second one never had to come out? Okay, right. Horizon. The one that he spent like a billion dollars on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mentioned Unforgiven, that's good.

Yeah. Yeah, that's probably some of my favorites. I quite like an old Western. Me too. There's a vibe that you can't capture. It's one called Western Union, which is about the establishment of the Western Union, like the Telegraph Polls.

Don't they just put them in and put up a wire? Yeah, it was that for two hours. That's pretty interesting, I guess. It's a pretty good movie. Was that the Twitter of its day? Sorry, X. Yeah, the everything up. It was the everything up of its.

day. Cool, man. Look forward to the Lone Ranger Caravanagh Garbage, not this week, next week. What else have you got? Gorghobinski. Goalwabinsky. Okay, this is Alex.

Alex? Hello, mates. I've been listening since around episode 60 when I started high school and now I'm 2,000 years old. That's mainly the reason I'm reading this. Very good. I'm emailing because

the premise of Welcome to Derry includes the United States military trying to find and release Penny from his native American prison so he can aid in the efforts against the Soviets. Is that what they're really trying to do? That's what they're doing.

I'm several episodes behind. I took it more as though like they just want to harness his power. I don't think they want to get him. I don't know, maybe that is true, yeah. Maybe they're going to talk to him. Yeah.

This gives me hope that there will be a scene where a US Army General explains the dangers of communism to the interdimensional child eating demon who proceeds to bite his head off. I mean, that would be pretty cool. Yeah. Bill Skars guy hasn't shown up in the...

No, well, it is all... the Pennywise always shows up because Pennywise can take many a form. That's true, isn't it? I'm still enjoying that show. They did a flashback to basically this is Pennywise's origin. He was a moose at one point.

Penny moose. Penny moose. Moosey-wise. Moosey moosey moose. Moosey moose. Yeah, I mean, that would be funny if like their plan was to put an army helmet on him and use him for that particular benefit.

Drop him out of an ATV and be like, go get him. I never consider them like, Oh, the American military wouldn't be so stupidest to attempt that, but they absolutely would. Oh, the man who shot Liberty Valance, that's a great Western. Who was it in the end? John Wayne. John Wayne?

Yeah, he did it. Yep. Yep. Famous Draft Dodger and racist John Wayne. Yeah, but it's James Stewart and John Wayne. I'm James Stewart. I'm looking out this... I'm really...

Liberty for Lance. I'm Rulibaldi for Lance. Oh, it's coming to get me. Who's coming to get Liberty Valance? I'm it's not Holly for Lance. Good question. To be clear, neither of them was Liberty Valance. Neither of those actors are Liberty Valiance.

Nobody thought that, not even me. Okay. It's Lee Marvin. Lee Marvin's Liberty Valiance. I'm Liberty Fans' friend. Who's played by Lee Marvin? Ryan Davies said, What is the best slash most entertaining

slash funny slash terrible performance by a musician in a TV show or movie that's out there in your opinion? This doesn't count, I guess. But it was on TV. we talked about it before, Angry Anderson's version of Bound for Glory in the 1991 AFL Grand Final where he came out the pre-game show

in a blue Batmobile and sung Bound for Glory and then you almost ran over him in a tram once or something or in your car, but that was... Oh, Angry Anderson, no, I just had a confrontation with him in the street. I would love to have a confrontation with Angry Anderson. That's my dream. I nearly run over Billy Brownless. That's unrelated. That's my dream for you to run over Billy Brownless.

So it happens, but then I'm not responsible. Who's good? Who's good and who's bad? Speaking of old movies, who's great. Tom Waits is great and stuff. Oh yeah, okay. Have you ever seen Down by Law? I don't think I have. It's a Jim Jarmish movie.

And it's him, it's black and white, it's from the 80s. It's him and Roberto Benini and another guy. What? Roberto Benini from... Life is beautiful. That's crap. What is this cast? Right?

What is this? Prison is two lists are stuck in a jail cell together. They're going to prison. It's great. I've never heard of this. It's so funny. It's a funny movie. All right. I love funny.

movie. Anyway, Tom White's great. Who's bad as an actor? Okay, so this isn't, this is just something that sprung to mine. Uh-huh. There's a video of Machine Gun Kelly. And he's playing his new... I said musician games. Got him. I don't know any of his music got it. It's terrible. He might be great. That, where he's playing his new rock pop album to a boardroom at wherever the, wherever he's doing it. And he does, and he gets up and he starts doing air guitar like on the table in just front of like a room of just like normal people and suits and it's really funny I can show you the video if you want please I would love that oh maybe no I have seen that you don't have to show it to me oh I want to show it to you that um do you know do you ever see star dust

the David Bowie no no I'm thinking of the movie I hear it wasn't very good but Johnny because I'm just thinking about this Johnny Flynn is an actor slash musician he did the he did the theme tune to detectorists yeah oh okay he's great okay I don't know if he's a good actor. Yeah, right. I mean, Bowie, Labyrinth, etc. But he's great in the prestige. Oh, of course he is, yeah.

That's right. There are some crossover. You know he's good? Glenn Hans Sud from, what's he from? What the hell is he from, Mason? Oh, Johnny Flynn played Ian Fleming in Operation Mincemeat. I didn't know that. Have you said that?

The new one. Yes. I have seen that. Have you? It's good. So once... Well, I'm glad he's good in that. Yeah.

He's got the song, The Tetetress. I'm the detectorist Don't know I'm the detectorist I'm the detectorist Yeah Would you search the little mirth for me There's something something something

I wouldn't know Glenn Hansard He's from the frames He stars in a movie called Once from 2007 Which is a beautiful movie Where he's a musician He's struggling musician And he's kind of

And he meets this girl And they kind of fall in love And he writes his album Whatever and all these things Kind of come together And it was originally supposed to be Killion Murphy but killing him maybe dropped out for whatever reason.

So he ended up just being, like he's not an actor or he wasn't an actor really before this. And he hasn't, as far as I know, that's kind of his one main role that he's ever done. And it's beautiful. It's amazing. And he's very good in it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that's a good one.

Yeah, I don't know. It's pretty, I don't know. I mean, I think generally speaking, when they get a musician in for an acting role. Yeah. It's because they have a specific look or vibe in mind or they know them personally or. Tom Waits in Dracula. Tom Waits in Dracula Tom Waits in nearly

The Super Mario movie from the 90s nearly Tom Waits in that got that other guy and said Yeah Maria Kerry did I know she did glitter But she did like a serious role In like the 2010s Which apparently was good

Yeah Jennifer Lopez She's always doing an actor I mean yeah I mean you know A lot of people make fun of her music But she's a great actor A lot of people make

And she was also in that Titanfall movie Or whatever it was Oh yeah But no she is a good actor I agree Anyway, my answer is Machine Gun Kelly Dancing on the table I think every musician is great at acting

Yeah, you're probably right I think it's easy for, not easy But we've seen more good examples of musicians becoming actors than vice versa Because whenever an actor Johnny Depp is like, I'm in a band And it's like, this sucks Yeah

This is bad This is just a vanity project Anyway, do you want to start a band? Yeah, let's do it Because podcasters would make good musicians I agree Robert Danny Jr. has that album. Is it called Robert Danny Jr.?

No, it's called The Futurist. Wow. And he's sung on that Alton John song or he mined it, I should say. Ice Cube, of course, famously in War of the Worlds, a great movie. But of course, he's good in other things. He's good in the Jump Street movies.

He's good in the Jump Street movies. Ludacris, a lot of fun in the Fast and Furious movies. Sure. I know more about Ludacris as an actor than I do, his music. Meatloaf. Meatloaf. In Fight Club. AIFO Grand Final.

Yes, that's right. You do that as well? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Famously dead. He is dead. Famously. That is undeniable. But I think I'm going to have to go with machine gun Kelly dancing across that border of table.

Okay, fine, God. Which everybody should look up. Not to make fun of him. I mean, you can. Yeah. That and for many other reasons. What's next, Mason? I don't know.

I'm out of letters, but I'll find another letter. I got one. Okay. This is from Mike Smart. Mike's Mike got two in. You son of a bitch. Listen to a different Mike Smart. It should be called Mike Very Smart.

Change your name, Mike, very smart. How many episodes of Stargate can we force you to re-watch in advance of the new series or at least watch the movie? Oh, because the new Stargate is coming with... They're just redoing Stargate or whatever. Who's behind that? I can't remember. Some guy.

But it is happening. We also know Mason watched some. So what are some of your favorite episodes you can half remember? I remember snakes coming out of people's chest or whatever. Yeah. There was an ongoing gag that became an episode a few times that somebody figured out what was, they discovered there was a TV, in the universe,

they discovered there was a TV show that had the same premise of their life. Oh, okay. And it was like an opening a portal situation and they, every once in a while, just investigated the events of wormhole, you know, stuff. FX1 or whatever it was called.

Apparently it's a continuation, and it's coming to Prime Video. Oh, do you think Richard Dean Anderson will be involved? Maybe. continuation of the movie? I would say probably not. Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich who worked on Stargate the movie

and Independence Day have signed on his executive producers. Yeah, I mean, I remember catching episodes of it in the 90s. I've never seen the movie, but I have read the novelisation. Right. I don't know why. Don't ask me about it. Yeah, right.

But I would be interested in doing 90s sci-fi for Caravan Garbage. I mean, it's a good premise. It's a great premise. It's, you know, the chariots of the gods premise. What if the gods were just weirdo aliens who kept showing up and being annoying. But we have guns now.

Back in the olden days, we didn't have guns. And so they were like, I'm going to enslave the world. Well, guess what we've got guns now? And like cool flying hovercrafts and lasers and stuff. That is cool. Good luck now, idiot. Dave Warnock is in, by the way. Terrific.

Just got a return message. We've got to figure out. We just got to wait to see a Benoit Blanc response. And if that, he says yes, then Dave is obviously out and Benoit Blanc is in. Exactly. No, we got four screens in the Zoom call. I don't want to bring Dave and Ben because Dave will just fan girl out

fan boy So true isn't it And I don't want that I don't want him to embarrass himself Here's an email from Daniel What's your favourite chewing scenery In a movie or TV show? Fuck, good question

Right Is it is it Al Pacino in anything? I was going to say Al Pacino in heat But I guess you could say Alpercino I saw a video of him this week Where the idea behind that character Was that he'd always done a bump of cocaine

I thought I Just prior to it understanding was that he was coming off or that he had theater had a drug problem that it was it was an implied drug problem or he was just getting off something yeah oh he was getting off all right that's what that's what he was that's what he was that's his whole deal yeah okay well chewing scenery who else is chewing scenery ah i mean brad pitt is always chewing isn't he he's always chewing food i mean nicholas cage yeah yeah yeah ral julia in street fighter oh killing it that's how i mean that's how you got to do it right yeah in that anybody in a movie like

that, you know, all I want to do is create the perfect genetic soldier, you know, that bit. Or the bit where he's like, you know, I destroyed your whole family. But for me, it was Tuesday. Exactly. Nick Nalti, just whatever. Yep. He was, oh, he's in, he's in Dimeo Love. Oh, is he?

And so is Sissy Spac. Okay. You know, he's good at this, Jim Carrey. And I think that's never been more evident than his performance in the Masker movie I don't like. And then seeing Jamie Kennedy do it. And just like the difference between Andy Hopkins, Hannibal, there's one. I think Willem Defoe's Green Goblin is very like that, which is very good. I mean, there is, there's a difference between doing it when the movie calls for it and doing it to sort of steal focus.

Kathy Bates in misery. Yep. That's big time, full time. Yeah. Yes. God. Those are all the movies. Also, Jeremy Irons in the original.

original Dungeons and Dragons movie. Incredible. What an incredible performance. Again, that's the time to do it. Yes. You know? Absolutely. When you hate it. When you hate it?

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Oh, boy. I don't know. Maybe we'll just bring everybody down. It's hard to say, really. Well, that's Christmas, isn't it? Yeah. Thank you, the Brut and the Bassist. It's going to rack and prollo musical themes.

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I've noticed that. He mentioned that he regrets turning down the idea like back in the day. Wait, he actually turned down that idea. Somebody put it to him. I don't know if anybody in any position of power. Put it to him. I think the Muppets would be happy to have him. I think so too.

Yeah. And he'd be happy to have the Muppets. I mean, because that's like Michael Kane when he did Michael Cain. When he did, Muppet Christmas car. He's like, he did it like 100% straight.

Yeah. That's what you got to do. I think it'll be great. I think it's still on the table. Absolutely. I think it's still do that. Because Ryan Johnson's like, well,

how could we, you know, the idea behind Benoit Blanc's world is that everything's real stuff. It's like he's in the Muppets world. It could be a dream. Absolutely. Brian Johnson, if you're listening,

Everybody tweet at Ryan Johnson. It could just be a dream. It could be a dream, Ryan Johnson. He had a dream in the bath. Yeah. It had a dream in the bath that he had to solve a Muppet's murder. Also, they did that Muppet murder movie. Oh, yeah, the Happy Time Murders.

We love that. Do a better one though. Ryan Johnson could do a better one. We loved it. We loved it. Thanks, everyone. Grab that jammy guys. We'll see you next week.

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