The Weekly Planet - 603 Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery (with Dave Warneke)

Episode Date: November 30, 2025

This is the episode description. I write them when Mason wraps up the show because I don’t really need to pay attention. You can really tell if you listen that I’m barely paying attention. But I was paying attention when Dave Warneke popped by to talk Wake Up Dead Man! A Knives Out Mystery. Plus we discuss Avatar: Fire & Ash’s opening weekend, the original ending to Fast X, a Far Cry tv series, an update on Star Wars: Starfighter and the unusual plan to continue Poker Face. Thanks for listening!Watch Dave's amazing stand-up special, Even Hotter in Real Life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIuGey7qQ50Check out Dave's podcasts, Do Go On & Book Cheat, with many guest appearances from James & Maso: https://dogoonpod.com/PLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start02:56 Avatar: Fire & Ash Opening Weekend10:18 Fast X's Weird Original Ending15:32 Quentin Tarantino vs The Hunger Games20:12 Far Cry TV Series Announced24:25 Star Wars: Starfighter Update29:14 Dave Warneke is here!36:45 Poker Face Casting Gamble39:54 Wake Up Dead Man Movie Review53:52 Wake Up Dead Man Spoiler Warning & Segment01:18:08 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:26:42 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Weekly Planet, the Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, and with me as always, Nick Mason, you're here. It's terrific to be here and do another podcast together. That's right. Let me tell you, it's this, Mason. This is a big news week. We're going to go to the news of the week.

That's right. And then we're going to do a topic. And the topic this week is a movie we saw. It's Knives Out, Wake Up Dead Man. That's all correct. Or wake up Dead Man and Knives Out. Hell of a time. That's right. Yeah.

And they mentioned in the cinema you can call it. it whatever you want. Ryan Johnson comes on screen he says, just to be clear. You can call this movie whatever you want. I don't mind it. Just don't call it late for dinner. I'm Ryan Johnson. I'm Ryan Johnson. I'm Ryan Johnson. I'm Ryan Johnson. I'm Ryan Johnson. I got thoughts about AI. He does. That's right. We'll talk about that. We're actually going to be joined by Dave Warnocky later.

That's right. Because he's an expert mystery man, isn't he? He's always going to a mystery movie or TV show. He grew up on them. He's loving them. He's committed a few murders. Committed, never been caught. He tells us he's figured out how to the perfect murder. And we're like, we don't believe you. And he's like, well, just to prove it, I'm going to do a murder. Yeah. And then he does a murder.

In front of us. And then we're like, how did you do that? How'd you do that, man? We don't know. But he gets away with it. He gets away. And he's going to get away with it again later. Do you think we're responsible for those?

Because we said he couldn't do it and then he did it to prove us wrong. I like to think we're responsible. Yeah, me too. I like to think we play a part in that. Me too. Okay, good. So the news of the week. There's time codes below.

if you're doing a jump below, to the description where Rob Collings puts the time codes who edits this, Mason, you know this. I know that. I'm not telling you any more information that you don't know. Am I? No. No. No.

And I don't want you to. We're going to talk about the cost of success for Avatar, what it needs to break even, how it's tracking. Is it a trillion billion dollars? Something like that. Oh, it's not really so much to that. It's more of like a vague amount of money. We're going to talk about the original ending of Fast X and why the director left.

Let me tell you, it's a doozy. of a story. Now, that's a movie that has come out. That has come out. It has come out. I think I said 2021, but it is like 2023. It wasn't as long ago as I thought. We're going to talk about Tarantino's spitting absolute chips.

Is he spitting chips this way? At The Hunger Games. Has he been spitting chips? Yeah, because it rips off Battle Royale and he's mad about that. Great. Yeah, so I'll talk about that. Hollywood's most original author, Quentin Tarantino, spitting chips over unoriginality.

Yeah. At de movies. Well, well, well, Mr. I'm going to talk about a Far Cry TV series. Didn't we talk about that already? No, we didn't. We talked about something else. We talked about something else.

Then we're going to talk about some Star Wars news. Star Wars News. Not the Mandalorian versus Groglett. Well, then I'm not interested. No, no, this is the one after that, Star Wars Starfighter and how that's all coming together. It's the Ryan Goosling one. Oh, and then some poker face news, but Dave Warnocky, he better be here by then. That's right.

Otherwise, we're going to be furious. We'll be spitting chips. We'll be spitting chips. Which is an expression, but I'm pretty sure. Nobody uses in Australia anymore. That means you're mad. That's right. Let's start here, Mason, via deadline.

Avalho, Deadline. Avatar Fire and Ash, which is the third Avatar in the Avatar franchise. That's right. It's expected to make 110 million or somewhere between 100 and 130 million in its opening U.S. weekend. The Avatar Srilegee. Yes. For now. For now.

Well, it might be more, and we'll talk about whether that's actually going to be the case. Those numbers are slightly below the way of water. which was the last one And that's probably because the gap between Avatar and Avatar 2 was 10 years, more than 10 years? Yeah, also I don't ultimately think that matters. These movies, they're not front-loaded

like a lot of Marvel movies where the fans rush out and you want to be the first to see it and fools rush in, fools rush in, know all the secrets, where Avatar is not that kind of franchise. It's not that kind of franchise. They just sit in cinemas and they just make $2 billion.

That's true, they do. Very gradually. And grudgingly And begrudgingly So I don't Ultimately I don't think it matters Well we'll see Won't we

Yeah What is fascinating to me Is that James Cameron Is always out on the campaign trail For this sort of things And I'm always like Do you really need to be Maybe he feels he does

Yeah But maybe he does this time I don't know Well it's interesting Because he spoke to Matt Baloney And he said if this doesn't Matt Bellamy Balony

The lead singer of the band Muse Matt Bellamy Balone Baloney No Bologone No it's not it's baloney because he's in

that Seth Rogen Hollywood show and they say his name and I think it's baloney. I thought it was baloney but it's not that's a bunch of baloney. That is a much of baloney as they now say spitting chips. It says that if this doesn't, there's a good chance like he won't make four and five

if it doesn't make money. He'll hand it off to somebody else. No he won't if it doesn't make enough money. Which also is just movies. That is movies, isn't it? If your movie doesn't make money you can't make next movie. Can't make next movie. Even James Cameron can't make next movie?

Can't make next big movie? Yeah. I mean, because three was always coming out because they filmed them back to back. Correct. It was always going to happen. But he said he's mindful of the forces working against it. The woke mob, obviously. Absolutely.

But also sequelitis. I think that is something to do with, what is it, three years after the last as opposed to 10? 10 or whatever. 13 between one and two. And also people might not realize that this is actually, it's the culmination of an and people don't see it like that. He said it's kind of like return to the king in that aspect where people might just be like,

oh, this is another entry, but it's not. Is this James, question of you, James. Is this James Cameron's first trilogy? Has he done a trilogy before this? I don't think he's done a trilogy before that, no. Because he's only done the Terminator's one and two. Correct. That's not a trilogy.

That's not a thrillogy. No. And he had, I guess, that's a thrilled duopoly. Yeah. He had a huge hand in dark fate, but he didn't direct dark fate, but he did have story credits and, like,

Q'd, like he, he meddled. He wanted to make that big movie, but it didn't work out. No, I don't mind it. I don't mind it. It's not the worst Terminator movie, which is Terminator 2. But my understanding is, yeah, that's correct. My understanding is that even if this avatar does do well, he's going to hand off directing for the next couple to somebody else, right?

He might or he might not, or he'll, and he'll finish it with a book. Because he wants to make something else, right? Well, he said that he promised Robert Rodriguez a lead a battle angel. He wants to do a Japanese World War II moves. or something, isn't that right? I think that's it, yeah. He wants to do undersea stuff probably again. Under siege?

Under siege three. Under siege three. Yeah, under threage. Finish the under siege. Finally, yeah. We'll get around to it. Boat, train. Yep.

It's the third one. Sewers? Just in the sewers. Stephen Seagal in the sewers? Wet in the sewer. Wet and sludgy in the sewers. Yeah, right. Yeah.

So I don't know. I think there's a fair chance that this won't make as much money as the last one, but I still think it's going to do. do well. And also just, you know, the downturn of cinema generally. Yeah. But I mean, maybe this is, maybe people are saving their pennies to see another avatar

because they know it's got the big screen magic. Yeah. And we've seen that from Wicked and I think it's had a bit of a drop off in the second week that people are willing to go out and see stuff. Zootopia is huge again. We'll talk about that a bit later. Like, people will see stuff. They just need the right.

I don't know what it is. They need the push. Do you think this, do you think the, um, there'll be a. significant technical leap from last avatar to this avatar? I don't think so. Maybe fire stuff because this one's fire heavy. Fire stuff, yeah. But I don't I don't think it'll look that different

from what I can tell from what I've seen in a bit as well in cinemas. Like when I went and saw that Predator movie and they gave us 3D glasses and then they showed us the avatar to other and then they went, you can take them off now. And some people just kept them on some people did just keep them on and watched a whole un3D movie

with 3D glasses on. Well, okay. Well, maybe they got something special. Maybe they've got secret messages from the government. Yeah. Or from people opposing the government. Oh, okay. Right? And where are you?

Where do you sit in that? Probably somewhere in the middle. Yeah, I'm right in the middle. That's right. Some good things, some bad things. I agree, yep. I agree with you. And with the government and people opposing the government.

That's right. I'm in agreement with them. Me too. And anybody with the money. Yeah, whatever money you got, we'll have it. Did you see Albo, our Prime Minister got married? No. Are you excited for it?

No. You don't care about this? No, not at all. You don't care about our leading man? No. The face of the nation? You don't care about that? No, I don't care.

You could have said he died and I'll be like, all right. He might have died. Oh, whatever. Just move everybody one step to the left. It's fine. Whoever the current deputy prime minister is, who I don't know and who cares, they'll take over. And then they'll lose their seat at the next election or whatever. Or they'll keep it, it doesn't matter.

Oh, did you see the Woken movie trailer? No. So One Nation, for people that don't know, this isn't in the news. They do these animated. I think they're on Twitter sometimes. Who are One Nation like? In America, they're like... They're probably just like the regular Republican Party, honestly.

Kind of, yeah. Yeah. And it's just like cartoons where it's just like, I've got pink hair and I'm woke and you can't say that. And that's the joke. Anyway, they made a whole movie of that. Do you know if you tell me that was the joke? What you did there is you stepped on me laughing uproariously

because I knew it was the joke. And if you look at it, like, it's this terribly fucking. an animated almost like South Park-esque animation but worse and it's just all that it's just like you can't use those pronouns in here etc so they've stolen our catchphrase you can't use those pronouns in here and it's not being released in cinemas of course it is why would it yeah because and they're like people will try to silence this but maybe it'll get released at dandy because Mel Gibson owns it well it's right and people are just like no this looks like shit and it does I would I want them to release it in cinema

Is you kidding me? To have that go wide and then for it to like... Make $6. Yeah, I would love that. They're only making that decision because it looks terrible, it will be. But good jokes. Good jokes. And Albo got married, you say.

He got married. That's great, man. That's great. Because before you didn't care as much, but I guess you've had an opportunity to process it. Yeah. And you're not jealous. You're happy for him. I'm happy for him, yeah.

It's firing a while. You know Justin Lin, he was director of some Fast and the Furious movies I do remember that He was going to direct Fast X Fast X Then he left at the last minute And was replaced by Louis Lettierie air Oh yeah

The transporter guy The transporter guy Which is what Letterrier is in France Is it? Le Transporter It's Le Transporter I didn't know that I didn't know that

It's actually true Yeah Okay That's actually true Yeah And Lewis is French for Jason Statham is Really? Yeah

This is great I agree And he's also in the fast at movies Maybe not Fastet movies Maybe not Fast X, or he is. John Sanders, isn't it? Yeah, he's in it. According to several high-level sources in the production,

Lynn had hit his breaking point over the steadily increasing creative tensions between him and Diesel, as well as difficulties with the star's sister producer Samantha Vincent, who often acted as Diesel's emissary. While a cliphanger was always part of the Fast X plan, oh, hell yeah. Nice. Several drafts of the screenplay also hinged on a draw-dropping twist

in which Dante is revealed, which is Jason Molle's character, is revealed to be the true father of Little Brian. Whoa. Vindezal's son with Michelle Rodriguez. No. No, with... Alza Pataki.

Is it? Is it? Maybe. Little Brian? So Little Brian's Vindezel's son, not Brian's son? Yes. Okay, great. Even though Brian is alive in the universe,

Vin Diesel's character called his son Little Brian. Little Brian for no reason. Just like how I called my kids, Little Mesa One and Little Mesa. that's exactly right okay but this would suggest because that would suggest that Elsa Pataki is somehow unfa faithful to Vin Diesel yeah I mean or you make Jason Momoa's character some sort of sexual assaulting character sure either of which is very distasteful for this sort of franchise I think so that's a that's a weird level to go to yeah so it is a lane so yeah it is

Alta Pataki so remember she died and there was an airplane moment I do that yeah yeah so anyway. She died in an airplane moment. That's what Jason Statham says. I remember it, yeah. I tried to save her, but she died in that airplane moment. You toilets.

Some members of the film's team felt that the late game turned was the perfect, if deeply dark, that's how you put it. Yeah, I don't like it. Way for Dom, no, you like it. For Dom to reckon with the concept he held most dear family.

Family, family. Fambly. Others including Diesel felt differently. Yeah. I think he's wrong. I think, yeah, I think also that character couldn't be like, I don't know, I think that would be a slap. He would feel like that that would be an ego thing as well.

Oh, okay, right. Aside from the fact that it is also like a unpleasant. Unpleasant. Yeah, yeah. Also, the ending eventually was going to be, was going to use a giant excavator type machine to wreak or wreck havoc. Sure. It's wrong havoc.

Rock havoc. Alexander Witt, who's a second unit director on this movie and also the second unit director of photography said, it was really the ending the need of work it's difficult to describe but this machine eats things the bad guys go down get into the machine comes out and starts eating cars and then it's like a transformers movie it comes totally out of context devastating yeah I thought I thought it's a little too marveling the problem was that it would have been all cg i although we ended up with all cgi in the end from the moment dom jumps over the dam it's all cj yeah we notice yeah we notice

so to be one of those giant like you know you look at a mining site and there's like one of those giant tonker truck things, but it's the size of a building, be one of those, I guess. In that fast, do you remember Fasten Viewers Crossroads, that game that we play? Yeah, vaguely. There's a moment in that game where you, like, right from a house. Well, that's probably also one of them. They can't admit that, but they can't. A video game did it first is probably.

I'm imagining like a truckerosaurus just like sweeping up cars and chomp, chomp, that would be shit. Nothing would be good. Yeah, you're right. What does it matter, really? What does it matter? What does it matter what's in the, what's in any movie? No movies.

The content of any movie is irrelevant. Completely agree. Do you think that sounds better or worse than what we got? Do you think Diesel was right? It seemed like you think he was. It seems like Diesel was right, but also the ending we got was also bad. So maybe there's a secret third way where the end of the movie was better and also where the start of the movie was better and where the middle of the movie was better.

That's interesting. You know? Maybe a number of choices could have been made over the preceding decade so that the franchise didn't go in the direction it was going. for several years and then sort of peak and then get progressively worse. Okay, well, that's interesting. It's interesting theory, isn't it?

But it's just a theory. Matt Pat. Matt Pat. I think you retired from doing those theories. Well, he got that Five Nights at Freddy's coin for being in Five Nights of Freddy's the movie for two seconds. I wish I was in that movie for two seconds.

Not currently, but we'll get AI to put you in there. Put me in a movie with AI. Yeah, that's always been your dream, isn't it? To be in a movie with AI. That's why you love using AI because it's like, you can make you own the Matrix, but you're in the Matrix. I'm the Matrix.

I'm the architect in the matrix. That's right. Yeah, which I love. Yes. That's great, Mason. And we love Fast and Furious here. Yep. And we look forward to whatever the next one is, Fast 11.

No budget this time. Back to the streets. Back in the garage. All the budget goes into bringing back Paul Walker. Yeah. Which is what we love. So Quentin Tarantino, you know him? Not personally.

But you've seen him and you've met him. Been to his house. Yes, no, no. Okay, cool. He went on the Brett Easton Alice podcast. All right. Two catty men They're so catty those guys

So he wrote American Psycho And Quentin Tarantino went absolutely off chops spitting chips if you will Did he go ham? He might have gone ham Chips and ham

What is this A place that serves chips and ham? Is it? No It's a podcast It's a podcast He went off on the similarities Between the Hunger Games

Books and Movies to Battle Royale This is what he said I said I do not understand how the Japanese writer didn't sue Suzanne Collins for every fucking thing she owns. Sure are the books. They ripped off the fucking book. Stupid book critics are not going to watch a Japanese movie called Battle Royale,

so the stupid book critics never called her out on it. They talked about how it was the most original thing they'd ever fucking read. I don't think anybody said it was the most original thing. I don't think that would be in any of the reviews. Also, can you read, read just to make a point here, what's the first sentence he said? I didn't understand how the Japanese writer didn't sue Suzanne Collins. The Japanese writer. Just some guy, I guess.

I said it because I can't read... No, he said that. Just some guy, whatever. They talked about how it was the most original thing that ever fucking read. As soon as the film critics saw the film, they said, what the fuck? This is just Bata Royale except PG.

Wow. Well, what is interesting because Quentin Tarantino, his films are often homages or direct homages. Homages or very direct homages. And I guess one, I just, I went through a bunch to be like, oh, by the way, Battle Royale, which is based on a book, takes inspiration from a number of things.

I think one of them is also the Long Walk, the Stephen King book, which was recently a movie. Like the idea of kids fighting to the death, I mean, in like Lord of the Flies, like it's... Conceptually, it's just funny. Yeah, it's just good TV. It's good TV.

It's good to see and see it on a video. If you go to YouTube and you type in Tarantino comparison, the first videos from inside it's got 2.3 million views, how Quentin Tarantino steals from other movies. And it's 10 minutes long. Yeah. It's just 10 minutes of... Well, I just found an absolute cracker of a quote here, Mason.

So reservoir dogs, and you probably know this, it's very similar to a 1987 Hong Kong movie City on Fire. Uh-huh, yep. This is just some of... They're not one for one, but there's a robbery of a jewelry store in that. It's a diamond store in Reservoir Dogs. I think reservoir dogs is sort of...

I can't remember which way it goes, but it's a continuation, or it's like an expansion of one of the scenes. in City on Fire to like a movie. Oh, okay, right, yeah. The undercover cop part is from City on Fire. There's a Mexican standoff towards the end. And so here's a quote from 1994 at, I think it was at Cannes or something,

when he was asked about the comparison between, like, City on Fire and Reservoir Dogs. And he said, I love City on Fire and I have the poster for it framed in my house. It's a great movie. I steal from every movie. I steal from every single movie ever made. I love it. If my work has anything, it's that I'm taking this from this and that, from that, and mixing them together

and if people don't like that then tough titty don't go see it all right I steal from everything great artists steal they don't do homages if you asked me to write like

if you said hey here's Quentin Tarantino in an old interview about stealing and I just went I steal from every movie I steal and it's fun and good to steal but we don't have to do that so that's good anyway

and you know people evolve all the time and whatever but I don't know I just think it's a bit And again, like, he's right. People do steal or homage art builds upon itself. And, you know, people take inspiration from whatever. It all goes back to that train pulling into the station or whatever, doesn't it? Absolutely.

The first film or the first movie. So, I don't know. And it just seems a bit rich coming from him. And, like, yeah, you might not even love The Hunger Games as a book or movies. But, you know, they have the characters and, you know, the whole world and whatever for all its faults and whatnot. Catnus. Catnus. Peter.

Hamich. Haymich. Philip Seymour Hoffman. Yeah, exactly. Philip Seymourth. Yeah, exactly. So, all the like. Anyway, I just thought that was a fun thing.

James Leonard, picture on this. Philip Seymour horseman. Oh, he's a horseman? Like a horseman of the apocalypse? No, like Bojack horseman. But it's Philip Seymour horseman. Okay. I can...

You can work with that? I can run that up to management. You can, okay, if you could. See what they do with it. Run that up the flagpole. See if anybody salutes it. You know, brother. Mason, this is via variety.

Oh, yes. Spice of Life. FX, they've ordered a series adaptation of Ubisoft's Far Cry, the video game. This is going to be from both Noah Hawley, who recently did Alien Earth, but also Fargo, but also X-Men. Yes. Mind Man. Mm-hmm. And Rob Mac.

Rob Mac. Yeah. Rob Mac. We know who, everybody knows who Rob Mac is. Do, like, should we, Rob Mc, or Henney recently changed his name to Rob Mac. In a viral moment of virality. God, it was so violent. We're still talking about it.

Hey, man. How good it was. Look, as somebody who supports, like, you can name yourself or whatever you want. And you have a fake name. Yeah. They're not, whatever.

But it just, I don't know. I don't know, man. It just feels a bit, I don't know. Sure. People say he was groomed by Ryan Reynolds. People do say that.

People do say that. I'm not saying that. No. Or he just adopted his personality wholesale. But unnamed persons are saying that, yes. Anyway, I still like it, Suddy. like, he did Mythic Quest, was also from Ubisoft recently. So in addition to co-creating the series...

Wait, what does that mean? What? How did Ubisoft fund that? Yeah, they produced it. Ubisoft are a terrible company, by the way. I mean, they all are, but... I think they're great. Oh, okay.

Actually, yep, you're right. Does it say that I think they're great? Yeah, it does say that. That's great. We ran it up the flagpole. Nice. And everyone saluted that you thought it was great. That is great.

In addition to co-creating the series, Mac, formerly Macalhani, it says, will also start. I don't know about that. The series will stream on Hulu in the US and Disney Plus. internationally while exact plot details have been kept under wraps the series will follow an anthology format like the games and feature a different cast and setting each season but rob mac will be in all of them oh well at least one of them okay um michael mando was the like the villain in one of those do you remember who's that again uh he was in breaking bad or

oh sure sure sure he was yeah you're right yeah he's like this guy in it yeah right get him oh yeah no michael mando he's also um scorpion yeah okay well sort of not yet he might be the next one. Maybe in the next one. Yeah. Okay, because the Far Cry series, first of all, the first one was aliens or genetic mutants or something.

But then everybody's forgotten about that one, because that was a million generations ago. But every subsequent one is a bunch of people who don't, who shouldn't be there show up on an island. On an island and there's some dictator and they get into a spot on it. And he does a little speech and he's like, you come to my island and you don't know how the rules work. I'm Michael Mander.

I'm the Scorpion. But in this island there is rules. Yeah. And you have chosen not to follow the rules. Yeah. So. Don't run around with guns. Don't do it.

That's rule number one, actually. Don't go to different checkpoints and bandit camps. That's right. And kill everybody in the bandit camp and claim that area. Don't hijack a vehicle in an attempt to go from one area to another area in the vehicle. Don't do that. Don't complete a whole map and you think you're close to the end of the game and then it's just you go to another whole map and the map's empty. And then you're like, I don't want to play this anymore.

Don't do that. They didn't happen to me, did it? No. No. don't experience weapon breakdowns don't do that don't do that don't experience that it's rule number two actually don't um don't make a choice at the end yeah don't don't make a clear moral choice at the end you can't do it you can't do it you can't do it it's against the rules i would rather you didn't the game was also previously previously adapted you know this i'm listening i'm always happy to hear

about it i knew it would be in 2008 by uvee ball Uvee Ball. Uvee Ball. The Ballster. The Balls. Biggest Bowls in Hollywood. That's what they say, isn't it? Yeah.

So, what do you think? I mean, we're doing, apparently, what's it called? People like Far Cry, not Far Cry, what's the one? Fallout's doing really well. Paul Out's doing very well. People like the Anthony Mackey one, metal twisted man. You know, video game, Last of Us, season one at least. Video games are big.

Video games, Uncharted movie. Uncharity. Mario movie. Mario movie. Mario movie. Zelda movie. This is the new IP perhaps That's right

Excited Pac-Man movie Pac-Man movie pixels Let me Throw this up the flagpole Rob Pack Man Yeah

Approved You're welcome The Board has voted That's right This is by the playlist podcast Go on And it's Star Wars News They spoke to

What the hell is his name Sean Levy Thank you You're welcome You're good at that Mason They were always talking to show and Levy. They are. He's like, a lot of movies and making movies. I directed Deadpool 3 and I directed, um, whatever, Ryan Reynolds's video game man. Yeah. Yeah. And my dad's Star Wars and

I'm Star Wars. But now he's doing real Star Wars. That's right. And he was asked about like, what's your, uh, body count? Yeah, what's your body count? Well, first of all, closest in tone. Hey, this isn't a real podcast at all. This is a street interview with a dork. it's the closest in tone and he said it's Return of the Jedi he said the combination of theme levity Sean Levity Adventure Heart Spectacle

said something that movie just got right for me he said that was the one he watched the most as a kid I know people like Return of the Jedi is probably the weakest to the original trilogy and it probably is but it's still better than some of the other movies still better than most of the other movies it's still better than most other movies yeah it's definitely flags in the middle

but that's and that movie is bookended by incredible books I don't think it's bookended by anything No I mean it can't be book it It's only bookended on one side Yeah By Empire Strikes back

Yeah Then the other end It's fallen off the shelf I'm just talking about In the movie The start of the movie's good Oh yeah And then the movie's good

And that's two good books That is too good books That is too good books actually Yeah Thank you He was It was asked about like legacy characters Do you bring back a Luke Skywalker

They're asking about legacy They're asking about Levity Yeah All of these things Sean Levity He said Every time I've asked Should I use this character

That was No Pretty much, that was maybe in that movie. Every time it's, you know what, people have seen that do something new. So there's no mandate or interference other than the constant encouragement make this new. And that's the truth. I said, can I use this character? And Kathleen Kennedy said, I'll put it up the flagpole.

And then she instantly said no. Whoa. Did you even put it up the flagpole? She didn't pause long enough to put it up the flagpole. Yeah. I think she's lying to me. She pretended to be on a phone call? Yeah.

Yeah. God. I just spoke to George Lucas. And he's, he doesn't want that. He said, no. He said, no. Doesn't he not own Star Wars? No.

He said he didn't want it. Like a cat. I don't want it. There also, he says, they're currently reshooting the third act because it didn't align originally. So now it's like, he's like, this is having to reassess it. He's like, the third act is good and strong. Oh, good and strong. And this is set five years after whatever that last Star Wars movie was.

That's a perfect time to put it. And people are speculating because there was going to be a Ray movie or whatever. that maybe it was going to tie into that at one point and now that's... Right. Maybe that's now not happening. So this is going to be out May of 2027. We're still two years away. Okay, sure.

Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that at all. A bit less than two years. So it's going to be Mandalorian. Versus Groglett. Is that soon? That's next May, this coming May. Okay, all right.

Okay, there's space an amount. It's time for like six more Star Wars TV shows, though. It's time, isn't it? I think it's time. I think it's time they use the... expanded media, the expanded media landscape, they have access to it. Did I show you, did I show you the Mandalorian Grogu poster? I think I did.

I don't know what I showed you it in. Because there's that retro one. Yes. Which is quite fun and good. And then they released, I haven't seen whatever this is, no. You're going to think that I just did this myself. Okay. But that's the current poster.

I mean, it is. It is. It's the Mandalorian. It's his. helmet and it's up close and groglets on his back you don't know the mandoloreans in there oh yeah that might just be a mop might be on a mop or a shelf sure but like the original post dude it's a bit of retro kind of you know it's like yeah that's better that's better that's better and look i mean it doesn't matter they don't have to all be that if the funco company

can survive long enough for the release of mandolarian and grogoo then they can you know they can survive another year i reckon because i think groglet funco pops will you know they'll revive them they just have to make it that far do people care about groglet at this point maybe i don't know you high on groglet you're high on that groglet supply i think everybody who wants a groglet has a groglet in some form right they've got the funco they've got the t-shirt yeah even my son has a little bobble they've got a full adult-sized groglet costume it's really wide what proportionally has to be yeah i guess so yeah you don't want to make you you don't want to be a skinny tall groglet no so it's to be really wide so

From a distance, he looks little. Interesting. Groglet. Groglet. In our final bit of News, Mason. Very exciting. It's sometimes, sometimes, not always. It's sometimes good to bring in a special guest who has expertise.

I agree. To do that final bit of news and then going to the topic, if they're staying around for the topic or the review that we're doing. Sometimes that's something we do. Sometimes that's true. And you're not going to believe it, but that's exactly what's happening right now. I don't believe it. Well, believe it, because today with us, we've got Dave Warner,

Nicky, first time you've ever been on this show? First time. I'm sorry, by the way. No, thank you for inviting me. The first time he's ever been on a podcast. I've been waiting outside that studio for a decade. Let me in. It's been so hot and then it rains.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just been sticking around. I'm like, I saw a predator. I can talk about it. Did you see new predator? I didn't see the new predator. Come on, man. But I saw a predator too when you talked about that.

You're like, you know, they have those stories about like a man wants to learn how to create a samurai sword. and he sits outside the forge. But to show that I've got the full dedication. Exactly, that's right. And he sits there day and night for 20 years, and then the masters, they emerge. And they're like, that's right. Just so you're clear.

You wait for 10 years and then you come in, and then we're like, so then you just sit in front of this and you just talk for a bit. And then you say, I thought it was a good movie. And that's it. Okay, bye day.

I have so much to learn. So, but you're a, well, you do a number of things. You do an amazing podcast called Do Go On, which people have probably heard of. You do a second amazing podcast called Book Cheat. Is that true? But those things I both try. I wouldn't say that are amazing, but they exist. You recently had a comedy special, which you asked me to come on and promote, and then I missed your message.

And then I went to message you to come on here, and then I went, oh shit. And then I, anyway, do you want to do that? Yeah, we can talk about it. I did a comedy special. It's great. It came out a few months ago on the Humdinger YouTube channel. They used to be called Stupid Old Studios, but they were rebrand. What do you think of the new name?

I love it. They went through a lot of... I know there's a lot of things on the whiteboard. Yeah. Uh-huh. But Humding, I think that's the best name. Nice. Can you remember any other name?

Well, in the promo they said they considered Fart Factory. Which I thought was pretty good. Okay, well in my mind now they're called Fart Factor. Yeah, that's really good, isn't it? Okay, I was voting for Fart Factory. Even hotter in real life? Yes, that's the name of the special. So you'll have to just believe me when I say that when you watch it on YouTube.

I am even hot. So I'm about five times as hot in real life. I believe that. Would you attest to that? You've seen the videos? It just doesn't show the definition. I mean, some of it's there.

Even though Evan, the director filmed it in probably the highest quality definition possible. Like higher quality than real life is what you're like. Yeah, high quality. Like basically you can watch an IMAX. Oh,

what really? And then an AI upscale. He's so glossy. It's so shiny. I'm making movements I never even did. So that's all linked below, which people should absolutely check out. Thank you so much.

Well, in what order. do you think special and then whatever podcast yeah because they're doing i think if they're on the train podcast maybe yeah if you want the audio yeah but if you want to see how hot i am i do style the special okay gotcha and then you can imagine what i look like for the for the podcast i think that's probably the best way that's a good way to do it i'm still stuck on fart factory i think what it should be is it should be the logo should be the founders of stupid old studios so whoever that is Alistair and Andy and Matt and

and Evan and Beck. And they should all be in a circle and they should be all farting into the logo. And the logo says FF, F. And it's like a royal seal. It's spinning, I think. I don't think it's too late to

spend a lot on logos and painting murals and such. I assume they're like, we're changing the name because stupid old studios is kind of like, you know, when it's something a bit more serious. I think it was harder to explain to people

like when they're marketing what they do because they've got the actual studio space but they also are a production company, which was already called Humdinger. That was there. We make videos for advertisers, that kind of stuff.

And then they were like, I think Humdinger's just a better name. Yeah. So they rebranded. Put it all under one umbrella. I mean, I just make stuff there. I don't have any say in what they call itself.

So they're like anything legal happening. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, well, I think, I just want to say, I think it's a good name. I should also stress that the Humdinger logo currently is the founders of the company,

just far into that. Yeah, it just makes less sense. but you're a massive fan of murder mysteries I love them A hercule Poirot A Poirot A Miss Marple

Yep A Vera Colombo Damn Quincy Mrs Columbo Yeah You'll even do Mrs Colombo

Quincy is Quincy M.E Is Quincy M.E? Yeah he was the forensic pathologist in the 70s Sort of doing CSI Miami stuff in the 70s Yeah Big fan of that They used to play I used to watch

It would start Murder This is on TV one of Foxdale Channel in the 90s. Watch with my dad on the weekend. Not sponsored, but I'll take their money. I think we did want to take their money, but we should take more of their money. I agree.

The channel certainly doesn't exist anymore. So it starts with, it was be murder she wrote. That would go into Quincy, and then it would finish with my all-time favorite diagnosis murder with Dick Van Dyke. Absolutely. And his son, Barry Van Dyke. And the grandson, Shane Van Dyke. Really?

And also the nephew, Carrie Van Dyke. So, like, Steve's other brother, so who else? And there was also Dick's daughter was on there. So he really got his whole family. Was he clear that he was like, you know. The talent. Yeah, the talent. Absolutely.

Okay. Yes. And he was like, one of his other sons was on eight separate episodes, always as different characters. Sometimes a bad guy. Sometimes being murdered. Like, yeah. He really just said, pay my family.

Yeah. Now, would you say, what is your attitude going into a murder mystery? Are you like, I'm going to make notes of all the important characters? and where they are and the murder weapon and I'm going to keep an eye out in the background or do you just sort of let it wash over you

and go? Because I'll usually what I'm like, I'm going to figure this out but by like 10 minutes in I'm like, I'll just let this happen and at the end I'm like, huh. Yeah, I think I'm pretty similar like I go in there thinking

that I'm going to get the notepad out. I'm going to notice, oh, the camera lingered on, was that a red herring? But then there'll be a twist and I'll go, hang on a second, what's going on here? Back in a, back in it.

Lost. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, I think the best ones are ones that you go, I couldn't have worked that out. But also, I feel like I probably could have. It was all there. Yeah, it's very difficult to work it. I hate it when they're like, and it's someone off screen you've never even heard of. It's the caretaker.

And you're like, well, this was a waste of time. Yeah, this is a waste of a pad. Often you can just do it by like, well, this is how these stories normally go. It's the guy who you didn't really think much of. Do you know what I mean? You purpose, they don't pay any attention to it. Because it's never the person it's initially thought to be. Yeah, sure.

And then you kind of go from there. Except for Columbo, when it always is that guy. The first guy he's made to. Well, it's the guy who did the murder. Oh, that's, because they work backwards for how he's going to work it out. Yeah, that's also interesting. Because I've never watched Colombo. Oh, so Colombo's different.

Colombo is a who catch him. Well, no, how catch him, is that they call? Yeah, yeah, well, let's start with the crime. You see, and then you're like, how's he going to possibly work this one out? Yeah. And he just bothers them until I... It just says one more thing. until he works it out.

One more thing. And he keeps saying one more thing. Seriously, he was about to leave. Sorry, I'll let you go back to your lunch. He leaves and he goes, eh, one more thing. Sometimes they pull a gun on him and he's like, nah, don't though. And they're like, oh, you got me, all right.

One more thing, don't shoot me. Please. I've got a lot to live for. But the reason I wanted to ask you about this is because Deadline have just reported that poker face, which is Ryan Johnson behind the Knives Out trilogy. I guess that you can call it. And Star Wars, the Last Jedi,

the Star Wars movie that everybody hates. Did you guys hate it? No, we like it. I think it's great. Oh, good, because I feel good that I, but I like them all. Yeah. I go to the cinema. I let that wash over me.

I bring nothing. There's no notepad for me there being like, oh, Snoke, who's that? I'm like, oh, that's a big guy. He is. And the music's always awesome. It is. It's always incredible, no matter of watch. Yeah, and then it wraps up and I go, yeah, that's good.

So I like that one. But then everyone said it was bad and I was like, oh, I not know anything. So, anyway, so I like, yeah, so Ryan Johnson. Yeah, so he's series poker face, which has run for, two seasons, the Peacocker got cancelled and they're shopping it around for a new home. And the lead, Natasha... Leone. Thank you.

She is leaving. And the idea is at this point to maybe just keep the character of Charlie Cale and just bring in Peter Dinklage and just be like, this is the same. It's just a new... That's a very... It's like a James Bond kind of... Yeah, right. ...thing, yeah.

Because her character in the show has a very distinct ability, which she can always tell when somebody's lying. Yeah. She can't always tell specifically. how but you always know so the idea so that would be quite rare in this universe I was like well maybe they made another person who has the same yeah but I guess I didn't know that was going to be just like well that's the same Charlie is gender neutral I guess so yeah absolutely yeah because that's also the how how done right they start with the yeah yeah I think

like you I watched the first season yeah I think it's maybe the first episode of the second season you watched it all I worked a whole lot yeah yeah I should go back and watch it but I don't know Do you feel like this is something that could work? Is this something they often do? I mean, there's been a few Poirotos. Yeah, that's true, yeah. But it's usually like new production company, it's years later. Now it's TV and movies, now it's radio.

Now it's like, yeah, Hollywood films. It's usually new people adapting. Yeah. I mean, this is a fun, stupid novelty of an idea. So maybe people will be like, okay, I want to watch the first episode to see how they do this. If it gets picked up. And it's clever to get an actor that everyone knows, right?

Yeah. I feel like I'd be more interested to see how, you know, someone I know is going to do the character. I don't know. I just feel like this isn't going to get picked up. That's what I feel like. I think it was probably dropped for a reason. It probably wasn't doing super well by the end.

Also, my understanding is, and this is a bit of salacious Hollywood gossip, is that Ryan Johnson recently came out against AI. He's like, you know, forget about AI. It sucks, you know, well, never use AI kind of thing. And Natasha Leone is big on AI. Her partner, like her relationship partner, owns an AI company.

Oh, really? And so I wonder if they had some sort of falling out regarding... Or was this getting cancelled regardless, I don't know. She feels like somebody who would smoke cigarettes and not like AI. I know, right? Totally. But I guess you can do both. I guess you can do both, yeah.

Yeah. I mean, the AI can smoke the cigarettes for you. It's so true, isn't it? Yeah, so there you go. We're just kind of see where that's going. But interesting, or not. It's definitely a good lead in topic. Can we all agree on that?

We can agree on that. Oh, 100%. Oh, 100%. And speaking of, so wake up dead man is the latest film, again, it's in the Knives Out Trilogy, but Ryan Johnson doesn't like how they all have to have knives out in the title. Do he really regrets that?

At what point is it too late now can he rebranded as the Benoit Blanc? I think so, right? Serious, like, you know, your Poiros, you miss Marples, that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. I think he could have, if he didn't name his character Benoit.

Because people will see it and go, Benoit. Benoit? A benoit blank mystery? I don't think so. I don't think I'll be watching that. But knives, you can knives out? Yeah, that's right.

Interesting. Yeah, like the cinema I saw it out, definitely out the front of just said knives out three. Did not have anything to do with it. Oh, really? But in the movie, it's just, it's Wake Up Dead Man. Yeah, that's interesting. He doesn't put it on the screen at all, does it? Yeah.

But anyway, so it's called Wake Up Dead Man, a Knives Out mystery? Correct, yes. And which was a glass onion had a similar thing. That was also a knife out of experience. So the budget of this, the first one in 2019 cost $40 million. The rumored budget is this. cost 210 million. What?

Which is inside. He met a car salaries. Well, yeah, and bearing in mind, he did a huge Netflix deal to do the two back-to-back. Oh, yeah. I wanted to ask you guys, because you would probably know this. When Netflix buys those two movies for $400 million or something, I think I read. Yeah. I'm just bringing it up now.

$450 million for the rights of the two-sonsons. The rights. Does that include it, but they're also putting up the budget on top of that? I think so, yeah. I believe that's part of it. So that $450 million just goes to Ryan Johnson and maybe Daniel Craig or all the executive producers or whatever. I guess.

Yeah, I guess it all goes... Their production company. Yeah, we'd go to Ryan Johnson's production company and then he can sort of parcel it out as he pleases. So he could have just done one set in a phone booth. Yeah. And just taken away all that sweet coin. That would have been awesome.

That would be big fart studios, which is the name of his studio. That's right. It collects all that money. It's a big woke fart studios. Wow. So the, this like the last one got a limited box office. I'm sorry, a limited theatrical run of about, I think it was 500 cinemas in the US. and it's going to make $2.5 million over five days,

which is not great. Glass Onion, I think, had a slightly bigger opening of cinemas, and it made $13.2 million. But these live or die on Netflix now at this point. They die on Netflix. They die on Netflix, which is an absolute shame, I think. Yeah. These don't just stay in cinemas over Christmas.

I think they would gather momentum. And, of course, Ryan Johnson and everybody else who, I would say almost everybody else who's made a deal, like this is like, boy, I really wish I got a bigger cinema release for my movie. Yeah. Well, you made this deal. Yeah, that's right. You bought a truck up to your house full of cash and you went, oh, well.

Yeah. You made a deal with a company that specifically hates the cinema experience. Yeah. And they only do this cinema release so they can potentially get award nominations. I see. If it's on Netflix, you can't get any Oscar nominations or, you know, so. Whatever's. But really, the Ted Sarandon, who runs Netflix,

he hates cinemas and any wishes they would all die. And he's right. But also, like, it's going up against Zootopia 2, which made $100 million one day in China, which no film was ever done in China. Wicked still going strong. Tron Ares is probably still out if you're a Tron fan day. I know you guys love it.

We saw it. So most people I would say listening to this, haven't watched this, but it's out December 12th on Netflix. You think of most people are like, well, I'll just watch it next week. Yeah, probably. On the thing I already pay too much money for it. It's probably gone by now in cinemas, but I would say, if you could, I would definitely say this in cinemas.

The atmosphere, this is like incredible. Yeah. The Dolby Atmos. Dolby atmosphere. Yeah. It was really loud. Oh my God. I said, turn it down.

You hurt my ears. I'm trying to take a phone call. Mason, I have to do this every week. What do you think the story was? Come on, man. Don't put that on me. Not in front of Dave. Not in front of our guest.

I'm unprepared for this to know what the story is. All right. So it's about this guy called Judd. Father Judd, played by Josh O'Connor. And he moves to a little town. Yep. Because he punched another priest. So he's been moved to another little parish called chimney springs or something.

Yeah, something. Something like that. Yeah, I can find out. Thank you. Doesn't matter. But he's there and he's going to be assisting another priest, Father Wicks, with Josh Brolin. and Josh Brolin's a real

He's a real firebrand He's all mean and stuff He's all, but he's all He's angry He's doing weird confessions To upset people It's a man to be called Monsignor I was like

Is that a thing? No I don't know It seems a very French thing And it's a town full of And he's pushing away All the not constituents What do you call them

The people that go to church The church goes Yeah He's pushing them all away Except for a core group of weirdos Who could all potentially do a murder That's right This is our group.

And Josh O'Connor's all against that. He's like, stop being so mean and weird. I don't like it. I'll kill you. I'll kill you, Josh Rowland. Just says upstate New York. But, yeah. I think it's called chimney sweep springs.

Yeah, you're probably right. But then, you wouldn't know it. You wouldn't believe it. I wouldn't know. Monsignor Wicks, he gets murdered. Yeah. Not only is he get murdered, but he gets murdered in a place where you probably couldn't get murdered. In a, like, a small, a little cupboard.

You're not allowed to think. A little cupboard where he's just by himself. Yeah. And everybody's like, you did it, Josh O'Connor. You did it. And we love you for it. Yeah, we're all against you. Oh, yeah, they're all against him.

And they've all, everybody got, he got filmed and social media and so forth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then Ben Wollblanc shows up and he's like, I'm going to solve this. I've got a long hair now. That's right. Got long hair and a high-heeled boot. I'm going to, I'm going to solve this. Yeah.

I don't even worry about it. And there we are. Maybe it does. Dave, what did you think of this as an expert in this field? Definitely not an expert in the field. But I'm a better fan. Just a fan, a humble fan. I really enjoyed it.

Yeah. I really enjoyed, there were times where I had the bit where I was like, hang on, what's happening here, hang on. Oh, okay. Definitely got that feeling. Yeah. Which, which I enjoy. The worst part is when you don't get the, oh, okay, feeling.

It never comes back. You go, oh, oh, oh, no. So, yeah, I thought there was another great ensemble. Yeah, incredible, right? Well, it's $200 million worth of ensemble. Yeah, because the thing is that, like, I think, I thought it was great, but it certainly doesn't look five times as good as the first one.

It really does. So they, if the budget is so much more. Oh, here's a question I have for you. Do you think it's odd that the Knives Out trilogy has followed the exact same format as the new Poirot trilogy, which is they did a cold one and then a hot one and then a spooky one.

Oh. Strange, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, that's a little bit of a coincidence. Or is it? I don't know. We don't know. Did you finish out the Poirot?

Is it a trilogy now, the movies? Yeah, there were three. There were three. There were three. I actually didn't see the last, the haunting events. I didn't see that one. The spooky one. The spooky one.

Yeah. But maybe Ryan Johnson did. Maybe he did. It is undeniable. Even in, I did like how even in the movie, they reference that the book club that the people are a part of have been reading a lot of murder mysteries. But are very similar to this kind of crime. They name a couple of Agatha Christie's.

And they're loving. That's like Easter eggs for you. Yeah. Murder at the Vicarage. Yeah. That says you're all snow. And then, like, the Hollow Man, which they referenced a lot. And I like that, yeah, they're sort of shouting out to the...

Yeah, we were inspired by this. Yeah, absolutely. So now, would you say that this movie follows a fairly standard murder mystery structure? Because I feel like the first two are kind of like... Like unconventional. They're a little bit unconventional. It's felt the most conventional, I think. Because as in, like, the story unfolds as a murder and then they solved the murder.

Yes, exactly. It was the first one. First one, we know, we think we know who did it, or we know who directly caused the death, which is Anna Di Amos's character. Yeah. And then, of course, reveals that that is the ultimate culprit with somebody else. And in the second one, we follow Benoit Blanc and... Oh, who was a lead in that?

Yeah. And they are trying to sort of entrap Edward Norton. Yeah. But in this, it's just like, well, who done that? Janelle Manet. Janelle Manet. Yeah. Yeah.

And it felt the most maybe like those sort of classic English ones. Yeah. Like, you know, it is upstate New York. It felt the most English villagey out of all the three, I think. Even though the first one's sort of like a bit like a country, a wealthy man's estate. But I think this one felt the most like Poirot goes out to the Midlands. Yeah. Solves a small town case.

It's a pasty. Yeah. Celebrates with a pasty. I think I like this one a lot more. than the last one. Interesting. I remember liking glass iron, you know, I thought it was, you know, I liked it. But the first one at that point was definitely my favorite.

But I don't know, this might be for me, better than the first one. I don't know whether, I don't know, I don't have to rewatch it again. But just, I don't know, I love the themes of, like, faith and belief and forgiveness and the use of lighting in this, you know, like the lighting through the church. Yeah. Shift during different scenes. I thought, like, yeah, I mean, the ensemble's always great. But I don't know, the last one felt very current and very, like,

Eat the Ridge. Yeah, and this is something that's happening right now and it was like COVID and like an Elon Musk guy which is, you know, all good, but this felt more kind of classic and it's... He said it across Elon Musk equals good, that's what he said. Yeah, that's right. There are still the...

There is still like, they say Woken, D.E.I. Yeah, and the guy's like, you know, he's trying to become like an alt-right guy. Yeah, totally. He's making his movies. He's online stuff. And then there's the author who's gone a little wacky and is attracting a certain crowd.

Yeah. That felt, there were a couple of bits that also felt pretty current from that. And I wonder like, yeah, the second one I think probably is the most that feels like of the time. So when you watch it, you go, oh, okay, I remember. I remember what this was like. I reckon, I wonder though, like looking back at that one in like 10, 15 years, that'll be such a like a time capsule of that particular moment, which might, you know, I don't know. That'll probably add to it. Although I suppose because if you remember the second one, then everybody is, you know, locked down and wearing masks or whatever.

And then they very quickly come up with like a very convenient. It's a little spray or whatever to be like And then it's like We don't need We don't need these masks Now you can see my face Yeah

Absolutely I mean you get Yeah you got it You're paying that much Yeah Daniel Craig's so good in these Oh great Little Outfits Mason

I love his little outfit You probably know this about Mason But he loves a little outfit Identifying a little outfit You said heels He's wearing He's wearing a slightly flared trouser now And a Cuban heel boot

Yeah But he's got the nice Three-piece suit going on It's good I know he loves doing these movies which makes sense because he doesn't have to like get ripped or jump off a crane

he can just walk in in a nice suit and just do a fun accent I feel like the accent it was probably the worst I've heard it in the three maybe it's because I was watching an inciner and it was really loud he was so loud

there were a few bits where you're like oh that's James Bond there's a little bit of Bond there yeah but still he's so fun he's so fun absolutely and he just seems like he's having a really good time

whereas James Bond he just seemed like he was never having a good time Which to me added to the appeal of him being James Bond. Oh, God, I guess I'll save the world. Yeah, he's at work, I guess. Yeah. But Josh O'Connor's great. Oh, man, I spent the whole movie being like, where do I know that guy from?

And then I was convinced that it was one of the Harry Potter guys all grown up. Oh, okay. Yeah, which one? Neville Longbottom. Oh, okay. I can see that, yeah. Like, you know, by the last movie he had shot up a bit and was like slightly less nerdy looking. And I was like, yeah.

It identified him as British. Yeah, he's one of the few British actors of that era who's not in a Harry Potter. Yeah. He somehow avoided it. He avoided that. By doing real movies. But then he's like, he was Prince Charles in the crown. Oh, was he?

I didn't know. Right. He's in a bunch of good stuff. He's in the movie Challenges, which is the sexy tennis movie. Oh, I didn't see that. But I thought he was fantastic in this. Yeah, he's really good. Though, and I wasn't sure he is a boxer.

Yeah. That's his background. It looked like that he had sort of boxer's ears going on. Yeah. Was he wearing fake ears? No, those are his real is. Those are his real is? Damn, what an insult.

I mean, it was on a big screen. It was huge. I was thinking, they've really put a lot of effort in, giving him sort of... It really looked like, looks like Ryan Johnson has bashed him in the years. He's been getting him into the character the last five years, punching him in the side of each year. Because often he talked about it, but yeah, he's, Ben-Mar Blanc is, like, paired with a maybe innocent person, potentially.

And... In a clear violation of, you know, Like, the rules of evidence. Yeah, he's not a cop. I know, but like, it is, you know what I really felt in this one? I really felt like they're really, somebody should put their foot down here and be like, stop, stop letting him in and looking at all the crime scenes. I mean, he's always right.

He's always right. But I'm like, he's really, if this guy were guilty, he's got so much opportunity to tamper with evidence. Yeah. You're tagged along through everything. Yeah. I mean, I think, and this is like, you know, revealed as it goes along. He knows more than he lets on than the Daniel Craig character, which I think is, I always forget that like, oh, no, he knew this like 40 minutes ago.

He clocked stuff pretty quickly. Yeah, but just didn't tell anybody, which I thought was interesting. Because then when you go back and, you know, there's things that they reveal and then it's like, oh, you know, a lot of this stuff and what I love about these is when you, I'm not going to figure it out, but you could. It's there. Yes, you'll rewatch it and go, there it is. I'm looking forward to a rewatch.

And I mean, I guess this is the advantage of being on Netflix as soon as it comes I can rewatch it, knowing what I know now, and go, were all the clues there? Wait a minute, no. They weren't at all. Oh, just an awful cast of characters as well. As normal, as normal, as per usual. You know, just a cavalcade of just terrible fucking people

who, you know, get their various comeuppances, maybe. Yeah, I'm just going to name them. Does anyone mind? I'd love to hear it. Josh Brolin, Glenn, Close, Andrew, Scott, Kerry, Washington, Jeremy Renner, Darren McCormick, Thomas Hayden Church, among others, etc. And so a few English people in there doing American accents, it seems.

I think some a little bit underused. Yeah, like an Andrew Scott. Andrew Scott is the one I was thinking of. Yeah. He's just there for a bit. He is there for a bit. If he was, I shan't say, he didn't do it, folks. Or did he?

Or did he? I don't know. Do we want to do some spoilers? Yeah, let's do it. I'm going to say it's the best movie. I agree. I say it's best movie ever. How does everyone rank these?

Ooh. On outfits alone? No. Because I was going to say knives out, then this and then glass onion, I think. Is that a hair thing? No, I think it's a summer versus winter thing. I prefer his winter outfits. All right, all right.

His summer outfits, yeah. Yeah, okay. I think I'd say one three, two as well. Yeah, I agree with that. Because a part of it is the second one, the setting is just not as, I don't know. Not as interesting? No, it's interesting or like a bit more, you know, like, oh, yeah, rich guys, Ireland, whatever.

Like, this one felt, I just thought that the church setting was just perfect for it. I think, you know what it was the second one? I'll spoil the ending, but so jump ahead of people, don't want to hear it. But, you know, because they burn down the Mona Lisa and like that's the ending. Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah. It seemed a bit. I don't know. Yeah. It's like kind of a, whatever. This felt more classic, you know, but just done really, really well.

If I was going to do a re-watch of one of them, I think it would be the first one. Yeah. And then this one, then Glass Onion. Yep, then Challenges. This is a good movie, Dave. You should watch Challenges. Tell me about challenges. Oh, that's right.

We did say, yes. And what's interesting about that is that Josh O'Connor plays like a kind of roguish, sexy bad boy. Yeah. And he sells it. But if you see him in this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's been punched. Or you see an interview with him in real life. He's like, you know, he's like a good.

goofy kind of guy, but in challenges, like, ooh. Oh, yeah. All right. He's a bad boy. And I quite like tennis, too, so there's something for everyone. There you go. If you're me. Yeah.

So, spoilers, I guess. Where do we start here? Let's say, who did it? It was Jeremy Renner, mostly. Mostly Jeremy Renner. With some help from Glenn Close. How did you feel about this, Dave? I thought it was a good, yeah, good reveal.

Yeah. One thing I would like to watch if I rewatched it is, you know, bit where it looks like the Monsignor Wix's come back to life. Yes. And you see him walk out of the tomb. Is that actually Josh Brolin? I was thinking the same thing. Or is it Thomas Hayden Church dressed up like him? Because it looks so much like that he'd come and I was thinking, how are they going to explain this?

He was never dead in the first place. There was a lot. Was that a fake blood? Like, what are they going to... But then in the morgue and you see the body. Yeah, yeah. And then I was thinking about they flipped. He flipped, that was quite comical. Yeah. We laughed in this. We laughed. And he had a big hole in him. Yeah. Yeah. Like how did... Because it was it going to be a fake body? You had a Benoit Blanc could not notice that, but maybe he did.

Yeah, I was trying to work out what's going on there. But then I thought that was a great reveal that it was someone dressed like him. But looking back, I'd like to see, was it actually? It's a pretty convincing wig, I guess, he was wearing. Because it looked to me like Josh Brolin. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's also, because they intercard that with like flashes of actual Josh Brolin. Yes, that's true.

Oh, that's true. So maybe that adds to it. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, like to know, like with my mind was tricked or whether they, obviously, they faked it for for the cinema. Yeah. I did love how they were like, this tomb opens from the inside.

Yes. And they're like straight, like at the very beginning of the movie. Did we have theories going in or as the movie progressed as to what was going to happen there? Because my theory going forward before the reveal was that the closet

that Brolin went into had a similar wall. Like a fake wall. Oh, that's what we did. Yep. So that there was somebody in, there might have been somebody behind that wall who could emerge.

and then kill Josh Brolin and then close the fake war. Because they, and they even mention that. Yeah, and then nobody would be there. Yeah. But then I was wrong. Yeah, that's okay. I'll never be a Ben Woblong. It doesn't matter how tall my Chelsea Booth, my Chelsea Booth Cuban heels are.

Were you fooled by the bit where they actually, they said, no, I knew. I know you weren't. James, were you fools? I was full. When the bit where they said Josh O'Connor did it, he had seven seconds in the broom closet to stab him in the back. you think, oh, yeah, well, that's it. There was definitely a moment.

I'm like, oh, yeah, because I've also, you've seen this before where the main suspect, or like Anna Diarmus, she did kill. Well, you think she did. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So I thought, oh, maybe it is something like, something like that. I didn't ever, I never thought that, like, he was like, explicitly guilty. Right.

Yeah. Because that's often the way these things go. It would be interesting to see a movie like this where he teams up with somebody and then they just did it. Like, yeah. Because, you know, you kind of go against the, yeah, I thought it was quite interesting. And he's also, like, for the last hour, been toying with him a bit by taking him around the crime scenes,

like you were saying, possibly destroying evidence. Yeah, because I guess because he's talking about how we're like, I haven't figured it out. This is impossible. But he clearly had. Yeah. Like he clocked it like probably immediately and then just let it play out. Yeah.

Which I thought was really interesting. If I were to be critical of this movie and you know I love to be critical, it would be that there's a lot of, I mean, I guess like a lot of these sort of murders, a lot of pieces have to come together absolutely. perfectly in order to pull it off like the fact that they had to put the fake devil's head on the back of his jacket which would produce a little bit of blood yeah but also people would have to recognize that as an as a dagger or a knife or something like that but yeah i mean it just

meant that jeremy renner had to get there he had to get there also had to fall forward that's true he fell backwards what is that oh there's a number of things that had to have happened and jeremy Aaron would have had to arrive first to stab him without anybody else there. Like he had to, he had to shoe everybody away and assume everybody would go away. Otherwise, what does he do? Like, because Josh O'Connor, he's up on the, he's in the pulpit, he's preaching, and then he sees he's collapsing. It would have been pretty reasonable of him just to run straight over and flip him over,

start giving CPR or something. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Well, banking on that not happening. Yeah. Fake ass. So maybe two, yeah. Come on.

I don't know. Maybe the reveal was perhaps too clever for its own good. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I wonder how you write these. Do you, do you work backwards? Is that the thing? Must do. Right.

Am I imagining that? Where you have the solution and then you... I think different, I've heard different writers, like, I've heard Richard Osmond who does the Thursday murder club. Which is also a movie. Did you see that? I didn't see that. No.

Did you see it? Shaking my head. I haven't said no that didn't get great reviews they had an incredible cast was that the Pierce Brosnan Ben Kingsley Helen Mirren

yeah let me check yeah maybe I'm thinking of people that I know that I read the book and then said that they didn't love it anyway so to run through the

the murder the solution of the murder who done the murder is that oh yeah okay so there's a there's a mystery in the parish

because there was a bunch of money that the priest from like the 60s had and it all disappeared and where did it go and it turned out that what he did is he converted all the money into a precious gemstone which he swallowed which killed him and a young that's a pretty dumb term

and a young Glenn Close saw that she got too close she had this secret in her head and then a woman who was part of the parish she demanded to know where that she was the daughter of the priest That's exactly right. And she demanded to know where all the money went.

How was she the daughter of the priest? They can do that in America. Okay, cool. It's different in America. Depending on the denomination or whatever. I think it is, yeah. Okay. So then, so then, but she knew that it was in the priest's body and she knew that it got interred into the tomb.

So inside the tomb there was the priest's body with it with untold riches within it. Yeah. And then she confessed that to Josh Brolan. And Josh Brolin's like, okay, well, I'll hire it. I'm a bad guy. I'm a bad guy. I'm going to hire some sort of construction equipment to, to, um, um, um, open up the tomb, which can ordinarily not be opened, and I'll take the jewel out.

But then, Glenn Close is like, well, actually, what I'll do is I will drug Josh Brolin. So he collapses, and then I'll get a patsy, which is the doctor played by Jeremy Renner, who will go in and he will actually stab him to death. Yep. And then... Because you think he's already stabbed. That's exactly right. And then we will swap Josh Brolin's body.

in the morgue with the still living Thomas Hayden Church, who's the groundskeeper. Oh, and the groundskeeper's house, I think they do that. And the groundskeeper's in love with Glenn closest character. He'll just know what's going on. He'll just do a few of my lungs.

That's right. And so they put him in the coffin and that goes into the tomb. And then the idea is going to be that he will wait, he'll get up out of the coffin and he'll take this precious gemstone out of the priest decomposing body. And then he will escape the tomb and emerge as if he were, Josh Brolin come back to life. And then presumably they're going to melt Josh Brolin's body

and acid to get rid of it. Yeah, that's what the tub was for. Yeah, yeah. I was like, why has Jeremy Renner got a tub of acid? Where did you get that? It's doctor's acid. It's doctor's acid. It's standard issue doctor's acid, right?

And jumping forward to slight, when Glenn Close turns the tap on it, she then just walks away. I assume there was... It's only a certain amount of acid? Okay, I was thinking about it's just going to overflow the base. It wasn't connected to, like, an acid facility. The mains.

But then Jeremy Renner wants to steal the gem for himself, so he kills Thomas Hayden Church, which is a big mistake because Merrill Streep and Thomas Hayden Church wouldn't love. Glenn Close. Yeah. Merrill Streep's in a different. She'll be in the fourth one for sure. Really, they've really worked through a lot of great actors. I could do Merrill Streep.

What if they get the only murders in the building cast? Oh, okay. So Merrill Streep, Martin Short. Selina Gomez. Pliny Grahamers? Yes. Yeah. And Steve Martin.

Yeah. And others. And others. You've got to, you've got a round out there. I guess everybody in that building. Paul Rudd was in that maybe at one point. Yeah, you get Paul Rudd.

There you go. Yeah. So where, where are we? Okay. Where were we? So Spirit of the moment, during our renters killed Thomas Hayton Church to get the jam.

That's right. And now thinking that he's going to take the body, that body and dispose that. Yeah, that's right. And then he's going to kill Glenn Close. Yeah. But then Glenn Close. switches the poison to cups and poisons him

and then disposes of his body in the vat of acid but she also puts Josh Broleyn's body as if he's submerged him submerged like he's up to his forearms and it turns the acid on so it looks like Josh Brolin's been up and about murdering a Jeremy Renner in acid yeah but he didn't he didn't even do it yeah Meryl Streep did it

Meryl Streep did it that's the twist I'm calling it 9s at 4 Merrill Streep did it It's going to be called Merrill Streep did it I think that would be good teaming Ben Mar Blanc up

with an older kind of lady like a murder she wrote kind of character Yeah that would be great And whether they get along Or whether they have competing theories They don't get along Exactly Yeah I also love that

Ben Mar Blanc at the end Because he shields everybody From the fact that Glenn Close Did this To save her kind of reputation I guess Yeah as a not a murderer It's not a murderer, and he'll just take a hit publicly, and he's like, I don't care.

Like, let people think that I'm a moron now. Wow. I wouldn't do that. That would impact business. It would, wouldn't it? Oh, you're that moron that couldn't solve a murder? Yeah. I think it really also balanced, like, the good and bad of faith and how people, like, some people wield

a weapon and other people are just doing good. Like the Josh O'Connor's character, you know the bit where he gets the phone call and he's trying to get the information really quickly and then he ends up talking. or about her mother and whatever. That was great. That was really beautiful moment. Because there was something that he wanted something from that lady. You wanted information.

But then when she came to him and said, actually, I've got a problem. He locked himself away and went, don't worry about what I'm doing. Just tell me about your problem. It's like saying, that's the nice sort of things. But it's also good to have Benoit Blanc, the skeptic there the whole time.

And even when you think maybe he's had a religious moment at the end is what, road to Damascus. Yeah. It turns out, no, he didn't. Nothing's real. Yeah. He was using that. that. Absolutely. Yeah. I got some reviews here from people have written in. Does anybody mind? Anyone can

I don't mind? Do you don't mind? Mason? I'll hear him. Yeah. But if I don't like him, we'll cut them out. Fantastic. Damon says, was skeptical given the whole religious aspect being a person who has an aversion to the concept. Felt like religion was handled well and it was overall great. Loved that the intro felt like its own mini movie and really liked everything. It feels like the first is still the best as it was a fresh take on Houdana, but unlike Glass Onion, this felt like and was shot like a real movie. Oh, also, a little reunion, Daniel Craig and Jeffrey Wright. Oh, James Bond.

I forgot. He's Felix Lider. He's Felix Lider. A couple of Bond You're right. Friends. They've got a real bond. I appreciate it. Thanks, man. Overall far better and glass onion, not as good as knives out, 8 at a 10. DJ Maldenberg says, this movie reinforced the one thing I love about Ryan

Johnson. His work is overflowing with empathy and etc. and said on more things. But yeah, I think that's true. You definitely, it doesn't feel mean. the way through. Ruben says, look, I'm going to be honest, one of my favorite parts

of this movie is that it included a religious person who wasn't a huge piece of shit. It feels like almost... But he was running from stuff. It was. Which is pretty common. Yeah, more rare in these films these days.

I'm just saying, I'm just saying... True. This movie is the most... Yeah, we know that guy. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Definitely. We do.

This movie is the most traditional who done it. And since we haven't actually gotten that from the franchise yet, it felt fresh and cool. Ben says, I'm a Christian. And so I'm often quite skeptical about movies that have a bone to pick with the church.

I often agree with every issue they raise, but normally it feels like an attack on the idea of faith hidden beneath an expose of genuine church-related issues. What do you think about the movie, though? Oh, you like the movie also. Okay, great. That's what I'm here for. Yeah.

You said this very, Ryan Johnson has a very strong and well-rounded, well-rounded critique of unchecked power on church leaders. And the movie was good. Actually doesn't actually say that. That's interesting. That is interesting. Yeah. And Kate says, oh, Katie says, so glad I got the opportunity to see this

the cinema although slightly annoyed I had to travel 30 minutes 30 miles to do that no spoilers uh just here to say that the cinematography and lighting were amazing shame most will not get to see it projected it is a good it's a good looking movie amazing yeah yeah yeah isn't it's it's good yeah it's really good what ted sarandos says he doesn't care what used to say i know and he's richer than me as well so might be yeah so he's better than me inherently i think i'm just getting to to watch a really concentrate and not be distracted by your phone. Apart from that time that I took the 15-minute phone call in the middle.

Apart from that, it was, yeah, you're concentrating fully on that. It's also so nice when the movie is good as well. Because sometimes you're locked in, but it's a bad experience. I know it's a two hours 15. How long do I reckon? This is long as well. It is like two hours, 20. Yeah, it was pretty long.

Yeah. Plus post credits? No. I don't think so. I don't think so either. So next. I felt like, am I wrong in things? I think the second one did have some sort of post-credity.

Ed may have, I can... Edward Nort emerges from the water and he goes, I'll be back. This one, I said to my friend Joshua, I was sorry with this. I think there might be, there might be a bit more. Oh, you stay. No, yeah, that's right. Wow. No, there's no post-credited.

And he was like, seriously, I'm in this movie. Yeah, we can just leave. I said, that's the guy from Harry Potter. No, there was one that was cut, apparently. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, it would have shown Benoit in the office in the Louvre where the security guards are seen returning to work after the Mona Easter is destroyed.

Didn't they, didn't some stuff just get stolen from the Louvre? Yeah, that's true. I mean, that's what they cut it. I mean, they cut it. Oh, for number two. This is also the second movie, is it? Yeah, that was the second movie I'm talking about. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, sorry.

They cut it just in case this ever happens in real life. Also, you know what the thing about that is also, I suppose Ryan Johnson doesn't want to be like, I'll commit to a mystery at the Louvre or whatever. Yeah. Obviously, in the subsequent one, you can just go, yeah, I solved that easily, and now here's a different thing. But I think if you did that, people, there's a certain, I think there's people who like this sort of movie would be like, and the next one's going to be set in the Louvre. This is very exciting kind of thing.

And then you don't deliver that and they get mad. Yeah, exactly. Apparently, they're struggling with James Bond at the moment. The rumor is because they, in the last one, he exploded. He was obliterated. I don't know if you saw it. And the broccoli family have lost control. They also were obliterated.

They were obliterated. That's right. They were given like $4 million. I can't remember what it was, but like barely it was money. I think it was 20, but like that's... Yeah, that's still crazy. What? Yeah.

It wasn't like a billion dollar deal or something? No, it wasn't. Yeah, so originally Amazon purchased MGM, which is like, you know, which is what the Bond movies are released through. But they didn't get creative control from Eon productions, which is the broccoli family. They would, they still had the creative control. And they could say no to casting and they'd say no to plots and whatever. And then there was this news. that they gave it up

and Amazon now has control and we're like, they must have given him a billion. Yeah, right? He's got four billion for Star Wars. They must give these guys a billion dollars to, you know, get them,

you know, take this away from them. Like their dad's decade long legacy and stuff, right? So, but it was some amount that they would already have. Yeah. Like $20 million. It's like, yeah, they would have that.

Do you not get that for every movie that they made? Yeah, if you thought so, yeah. And then some. I wonder if it was just like, we'll give you a 19, million dollars no deal will give you 20 yes like they wrote down a number and went well that is what I want it maybe it's just the principle of the thing like we won't budge now we will budge

okay fine and this all as I heard you say not too long ago so Jeff Bezos can get his wife to be in that that was that was the potential at some point we haven't heard anything else okay yeah but I love it though I love it I love the bit where you said and she's not an actor but she could be she's got time it's got time get herself up for speed I think that's so far. I think some of the best actors and not actors at all. Jackass. That's a good example.

Okay, great example. Yeah. Like a Baner Magera. Meryl Street. Merrill Street. Not really, not trained as an actor. Not trained. Doesn't need to be.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, so apparently they're struggling with James Bond. This is the rumor because he got killed in the last movies. They're like, well, where do we go from here? And it's like, people know it's a new iteration. Like nobody's going to be confused. Yeah, it's just James Bond. Yeah, just do the next story, whatever that is.

The next story with a new person. Yeah. Because you remember when he was really old and then he was young again? Yeah. They didn't have to explain that he got a stem cell infusion or something. They just went, yeah, it's a younger guy now. Yeah. And they're like, you were married to a Japanese person in the last movie.

Yeah. What happened there? Well, a very dodgy wig. Okay. No, we're not going to even talk about that. No one cares. No, no one cares. But so in terms of knives out, apparently, yeah, he's came to do another one,

but he wouldn't do one without Daniel Craig and vice versa. He's not interested in, like, recast. And it's not... Peter Dinkley just gets in that role as well. He just replaces everyone. But they're still... Him and Daniel Craig are like formulating ideas. And people have been pushing for...

Muppet Knives out. Oh, yes. Everybody's a Muppet except for Daniel... And is that actually... Is that anyone attached to the project ever considered that? Or is it just people on the incident saying? I'd love that they did this.

I don't think Ryan Johnson... I think he said he's not against it though. Yeah, it has gotten to Ryan Johnson. But he's said something along the lines of... well, I like the idea that the Benoit Blanc universe is a real universe. So putting it in the Muppet universe would break the reality of it. But I guess you could just be like, it's a dream he's having or something. Yeah.

But he solves the mystery in the dream. He solves a mystery in the dream? He's that good. He's that good. Does it, do you think it would work? Yeah. Yeah, okay. All right, well, there we go.

It's confirmed. Yeah. But who owns the Muppets now? Disney. Is it? Yeah. Okay. All right, then.

Which is good. Yep. But for the next one, Netflix haven't, they only bought the two and three. Exactly. So that's interesting. He's going to need to squeeze another two to five hundred million dollars from. Yeah. It's like crazy.

Hey, it's me, Ryan, can I have a half a billy for, uh, for some more knives out? No. Okay. Could it possibly be worth it for them? Who knows? 400 million. It is all propped up by like investors in this, the idea that eventually this is got to pay off in some big way.

Yeah. But they've kind of, I don't know how they're going to go. grow their audience more than they have, like, substantially. Everyone has two accounts. Maybe that's what it is. I mean, they're stopping account sharing, so. Because at this point, like, most people I know are like, yeah, I sign up to Netflix for a show or a movie that I hear is good, and I'll watch that, and then I'll cancel it,

and then I'll subscribe to a different thing next month for another thing. So, like, we've already reached the point where people have, you know, they've very clearly being like, I'll only keep these around as long as they're useful. Yeah. Right, so they're like banking on the fact that 30 million people sign up and pay their 12 bucks to watch this movie and then...

Yep. And then hang out forever. Yeah. And maybe they're right. We don't know. Yeah, well, I loved it. Yeah. Well, Variety is saying that...

No, he's saying that... He spoke to Variety, Ryan Johnson, that his next movie is going to be a 70-style paranoid thriller with light sci-fi elements, which is going to shoot next year, which is kind of what the one you hate, Luper. I do hate Luper. You hated Luper?

He hates Luper, famously. I mean, I haven't watched it in a long time. So maybe I'll love it. Maybe you'll love it. Do you like Luper? I really likes Leupon. I like his other movie, Brick. That was great, too.

Rick's great. So there you go. I like everything Ryan Johnson's done except Luper. Oh, okay. Maybe it's the floppy hair. But then I like Benoit Blanc's floppy hair. You can't say that. Maybe I just didn't like Bruce Willis's floppy.

I didn't like that transitional moment where he's Bruce Willis. Then he's Bruce Willis with floppy. hair. No, it was Joseph God 11. He's Joseph got a lever, then he's Joseph got a lever with floppy hair, and then he's Bruce Wilson. Oh, yeah, the weird thing was changing his face a bit in that way. He didn't need to, you could have just had Joseph's...

Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, it's fine. That was the, but I thought the story was good. Dave, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much. We love that you came here, don't we, Mason? We used solve the mystery of why our podcast is so bad. Because there's only the two of us.

And you fixed it. Thanks for letting me be your third wheel. No problem. You're very welcome. So, as mentioned, uh, your special even hotter in real life, it's linked below bookcheet do go on that's right anything else you're doing at the moment uh well do go on yeah that's right eating pies um do go on's out on the road we're doing in when new zealand at the end of january oh hell yeah some live shows in Auckland and wellings your life shows are amazing also

thank you we have a lot a lot of fun doing that some of them that's true not of these ones some of them are unreleasable because of what we're saying in the room but yeah but and book cheat i've recently did an episode with you guys we talked about the day of the truth That's right, yeah, okay, yeah. But also a couple of murder mysteries over the time that I've covered, so if you like that kind of thing, yeah. Fantastic. All right, thank you so much. We're going to go to the next segment.

It's called What We're Reading. What we're going to read? That's what it's called, Dave. Enjoy. I'm doing nothing. What are we reading today? What a delight that Dave Warnock is. Isn't he, though?

I like him because. he doesn't like me. It makes me like him more. Oh, yes. You know? Yeah, sure, you have to win over his love. Exactly. Which you never will. I don't think I'm going to be able to. I don't think you could. Yeah. Instead, James, I read one thing. Yeah. I read, well, I read the first four issues. It's of a five issue series because the fifth issue is an hour yet. Yeah. But it's Superman the Kryptonite Spectre. Oh, you did? Because you talked about this last week. I did to talk about it last week. So it's by W. Maxwell Prince, Martin Maratso and Chris O'Halloran.

Whoa. And they were previously behind. And I think they are still doing a series called Ice Cream Man. Oh, yes. You can talk about that again last week. Horror one shots. But it's, it's, I would say Superman the Cryptonite Spectrum

is in the spirit of all-star Superman. Yeah. But it's also its own thing. Like it's really good and fun. That art reminds me of that kind of art. And it's very, yeah, very kind of like,

you know, 1960s pulp, you know, gold and silver age Superman, silver age Superman, I would say. Yeah. And just goes in a bunch of crazy directions

and a bit metafictional and also just, just a lot of, of fun. Yeah. I would say, yeah, it's great. Really good and fun and silly. Badman's in it. Should I wait for the whole thing? Well, there's only one more issue, so yes. When's that out? I don't know, probably next month. I'll wait. Yeah, just wait. Just wait. Just wait. How many horses should I hold? All your horses, man, all your horses. But it's basically, and I think we mentioned this last week, Superman discovers the existence of four new kryptonites. And he's like, well, better test them all on myself just to see what'll happen. You know, because I don't want to do it

before any of the villains get a hold of more of this kryptonite. See what's up. See what's up. That's like finding a bunch of new drugs and being like, I'm going to try these different drugs. Try all the different drugs before the bad guys get to the drugs. Exactly. That's right.

Yeah. Anyway, really good and fun. Right. Okay. Are they like longer issues or are like 30 pages each? They're like 36. Okay. So slightly longer maybe than a regular coming maybe potentially?

A little bit longer. Who does the art? Did you say? It is Picasso. Martin Marato. Okay. Yeah. Chris O'Halloran on Colors.

I saw Martin Mertis do something else recently. Oh. Well, I read, and this is for our upcoming Book Club episode. Oh, yes. Your recommendation. We should do this for Boot Club, by the way, as soon as... Oh, absolutely. I'd be definitely up for that.

Iron Man the Stark rocks on war, which is the latest Iron Man run. It's the first five issues. And long behold, Tony Stark. He's in it. He's up to his bloody neck, isn't he? That's right, yeah. He's trouble. He just got his company back, and guess what?

He's lost his company immediately. I hope he doesn't succumb to alcoholism. Yeah, I hope he doesn't have to struggle with it. that. I hope he doesn't have to build a new Ironman armor. But you love that. Yeah, I did. And it was good when he did it. Yeah. So I enjoyed that, but we'll talk about that more in depth in an upcoming episode. That's right. And I watched the first like few minutes of Stranger Things. Okay. And I'm like, I'll get to it. Maybe we'll talk about it more next week.

All right. Like they showed the recap and I'm like, okay, hang on. It's how long is this? It's like three years. I can't remember since the last one. And I'm like, I'm looking at this and I don't remember a lot of this. And then it's... We won't know this for real. I'd forgotten the town got destroyed. Did it? At the end of the last one?

Did it? Or a lot of it did. There's a big rift down the middle. I don't remember that at all. Yeah. I'd forgotten. How's Eddie doing? Vecna. Eddie died.

But how's he doing though? He's all right. Maybe he'll come back. I don't know. Maybe he'll come back. Yeah. But apparently it is good. These first four episodes that go anywhere between an hour and four hours long each.

I don't know. That's true. It's all over the place. Yeah. We'll never know this, but what are the viewing numbers like? do we know. People coming back in droves. It crashed Netflix. But also maybe they've got a crash Netflix button.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Classic. Speaking of Netflix, I watch two movies that are going to Netflix this week. So, Knives out. Yeah. Not anymore. We talked about it. Not anymore. Stop showing up. So we watch Netflix movies. Too good. But there's a movie that's going to be on Netflix this week, I think, but I saw it in cinemas. Yeah. Jay Kelly That's the

Oh yeah the George Clooney one Yeah With Adam Sandler So directed by Noah Boundback Oh I like Noel Boundback Written by Boundback and Emily Mortimer Who's also in this Yeah

And it is It is Oh great a girliex also in it Because they often do something And stuff together George Clooney is Jay Kelly Who is a George Clooney character

Only more so He's like the last of the great Old School movie stars You know in the modern age Yeah And he decides to go, he's just finished a movie and then in a like a week he's going to do another movie and then he's going to do another movie. But he decides he's going to take a week and sort of coincidentally meet with his daughter who's going on a little tour of Europe. He's going to take this opportunity to go to Tuscany and accept a lifetime achievement award.

Lovely. But in the meantime, he's going to go to, you know. And what, I mean, on the face of it, you'd be like, oh, you know, he's a movie star and he's a movie star and he's. questioning his life or whatever a movie star but it's sort of about the movie's about it's got a lot of layers

and the movies about like the sacrifices people make to get what they want or what they think they want yeah it's that kind of movie because it's like as the as the movie progresses and you see flashbacks

to his life and him starting out and stuff like that they deage him? No it's a different actor what? Yeah how can they get somebody who's as handsome as young George Clooney

they did it okay they did it all right they did it but he also doesn't look anything like yeah okay

um but it's a about like all the, you know, other people's dreams. He kind of crushed along the way and kind of, you know. A minor spoiler for the movie is that he, you know, he became successful, you know, more so than any of his peers, but he's also the guy that showed up with another actor to audition for a movie, like as support and then sort of stole the role out from under it. Like, he's that guy kind of thing.

Okay. It's good. It's got a lot of layers. Because it's also one of those movies where, and he's got like a bad relationship with, you know, some of his old buddies and, you know, his family and all this sort of stuff. And it's one of those, it's, I think in lesser hands it'd be one of those movies where it's like he'd have the realization at the end. Oh, I'd give up everything. I'd give up all the money and the fame and the awards just for one more day of being a better dad or whatever. But I don't think this guy would.

And not in a funny way of like, he's a bad guy and he loves it kind of thing. It's just a complicated thing. And, like, you know, it's every time, you know, they say when God closes the door, he opens a window or whatever, it's like that same thing of like every choice you make closes some doors, whether it be on your friendships or like other career opportunities or family or whatever it is. Maybe you're in a door factory. Maybe you're in a door factory. Yeah. He's not, though, at any point. None of this is door factories.

No, no, no, he's in much more luxurious places. Yeah, like a big, big, big sliding glass door factory. Oh, sliding doors. Yeah. Gwyneth Paltrow. Gwyneth Paltrow I'll be a good cast It's got

As you said Adam Sandler Is his manager I love that pairing Of those two They feel like They'd be good together And they've never worked together Yeah

Because they're friends aren't they Yeah It seems that way And like the two biggest stars of like 90s 2000s Like drama and comedy Never worked together

They just They have different roads Like they don't George Clooney doesn't do that kind of comedy Makes you think Doesn't Adam Sandler comedy

So true Yeah okay Laura Dern's in it Who else Looks like Greta Gerwig is in it. Greta Goerwig is in it because she's Adam Sandler's wife in it. Ah.

And, um, you know that guy? He's a guy. You said Emily Mortimer, didn't you? I did say Emily Mortimer. Yeah. Billy Cruttop's in it. Great. Okay.

Oh, Patrick Wilson's in it. Patrick Wilson is in it. Patrick Wilson is in it. Now you can't get me. Oh, I've been in it for like four seconds. Can't even, she's not even in those movies. But I reckon worth a watch. All right.

Yeah. No, I do. I did want to watch this. I like the trailer. Yes. And I like Noah Bamb bar, Bulmbark's movie. he wrote Barbie sort of somewhat that's what they said i liked marriage story i liked white noise i liked white noise no you didn't like white noise i can't remember it yeah i like white noise a lot

yeah it's like a real odd duck of a movie uh all right mason yes we gotta get out of here to the next segment of the show oh oh you sly dog then we got to get out of here you sly dog and you low dog thanks yeah here's the letters then whew the classic one was letters oh letters we love you some letters they're only a day away You're down to here right now we're going to invite us Yeah

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Yes. I've been a fan for over a decade and a quick question for you all. We've seen so many heroes recast over the years, especially Batman. If you had to guess, how many more times do you think you'll see Batman recast in your lifetime? Oh, do you think it's going to be one of those things where it gets quicker and quicker? Because I feel like we're going to be having multiple Batman's at one point. Yeah, maybe. Two Batman's at once.

Right. Going to get patterns in whoever new Batman is. Are we including, we're not including animated. Okay. We're not including animated. Doesn't count. Doesn't count. Doesn't count.

Doesn't count. Doesn't count. Doesn't count. Let me think. How many has there been in the last decade? Let's do our lifetime. Okay. So for our lifetime, the first.

was Keaton, Kilmer, Clooney, Bail, Affleck, Pattenson. Yep. Is that everyone? Plus, there's some TV live action stuff. We're not count them. We're not counting them. Do I miss anybody in there? I thought I did.

Bayle, you said bail? I said bail. No, I think that's it. That's six. Yeah, six. I said Affleck, right? Okay. Do I say Affleck?

Yes. Okay. So another six? At least. You think it's going to go faster? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.

Maybe. or maybe like because I feel like there's a good chance they'll do like future Batman and then they'll do that like Batman be on yeah doesn't count has to be regular Batman

has to be regular but he'd be in it like Bruce Wayne would be in it you're just talking straight up Batman you're taking this guy's question and you're drawing your own conclusions I'm drawing my own conclusions I'm extrapolating

like Sherlock Holmes or Benoit Blanc Blanc Sorry. Benoit Blank. Bonoite Blank. I think he has to be in costume. I think if they ever do a Batman beyond,

they're going to get a pre-existing Batman actor to do. I think that was what they were probably going to do with Keaton at some point. But they fucked that up, didn't they? I disagree. I think blue skies ahead for that. Flash was good and also was the back-eared movie he was in that never got released. That's true. I don't know.

Let's say we live another 40 years. Nice. Hypothetically. Yeah. I reckon another six. Yeah. In that time period. And that's if we do live another 40 years.

That's right. But let's say we live another 10 years. Yes. I'd say it's also going to be six in that time period. You think so? Wouldn't it be interesting if you got told how you're going to die by how many Batman are, like for a fortune to how many Batman there's going to be? That would be great.

And you just be constantly looking at variety. That's right. Oh, shit. This actor quit. Oh, no. Does that count? Yeah. Did he film any of it?

Just filming the screen test count? Yeah. Oh, God. Or what if, like, the world ends and there's no more Batman movies and then you're around forever? Oh, no. That'd be good. No, that's bad. You're immortal.

Oh, no, but then what would happen? I think you have to count people reenacting old Batman movies by, like, a dumpster fire or whatever. Like Christian Bale did in Dragon. Raider fire, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I'm going to say six, but it could be more

because I think there's going to be concurrent Batman's. We're probably going to get multiverse Batman's. Oh, that's true. Blah. But does that even count? No, I think... You're talking, like, recast, this is the new Batman. I think what they're going to do, if they do multiverse Batman's,

I think they're going to do everything within their power to bring back previous Batman actors. Like they'll try and get bail. They'll give, they'll be like, hey, bail, 10 million bucks to be in this for five minutes. Would you do that? Or do it. And it'll blim and do it. Yeah, that's right.

Either you do it or we'll just do it. Yeah, exactly. 10 million or you'll see yourself on screen no matter what. And your kids will be like, did you, did you film that? And you'd be like, no. No. I didn't blim and do it. it. No. No. No, you stupid kids. They did it with AI. You stupid kids. My stupid kids. I'm

Christian Bale. He shouldn't talk to his kids like that. I'm not currently in a movie where I'm American, so I'm going to use my real accent. Just what I see a look. Was he from Wales? Yeah, I think he's Welsh. Okay, right. Yeah. All right then. As I'm Joseph Cook. I think, I think you're probably right. I think it's probably more than six. Because also, like, I'd say another six and there were and there were huge gaps in there where there was no Batman and I don't think we're going to experience that. You think so? Not in the same way

yeah. But then they might what if they lock in on the perfect Batman and he's Batman for like 15 years? Yeah they might but even then I think they'll do multiple series Timothy Shalemae Timothy Chalamette Thin Batman Thin Batman? I'm thin Batman I'm thin Batman. Reedy Batman. I'm really thin Batman

How am I going to get out of this cage? Oh I'll just go through the bars I'm thin Batman So I'll just walk normally through the bars. We don't even have to turn to the side. I'm thin Batman. Thin Batman's foiled me again. Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. Wah.

Joseph Cook says, I'm thin penguin. What? Yes. Even thinner than that guy. Which guy? The one from Gotham. He was thin.

I'm thinner than him. But I've turned to the side. You can't even see me. No, I can't. Yes. I'm just me in this and I'm not a character I didn't say

You're welcome though Waa Wack wwa Didn't ask for it I didn't say thanks Not something I'm interested in An even thin of penguin away Even thin a penguin away

Waa Watt Watt Watt Watt All right Is everybody thin or is it just you and Batman? Just me and Batman All right man That's cool I guess

Just a coincidence though that you're both thin. Apparently it is. Apparently it is. Okay. You didn't see him and then... I'm not on a Zampick, if that's what you're asking. I'm not on it.

It's just diet and exercise. All right. You don't look well. Joseph Cox says, what's the worst children's media you run across? When I was a kid, edutainment, spot it from a mile away.

Hate it. Yeah, bad. But now, there's a couple of Netflix. They feel like they're AI generated, but they're not. Right. Shows there's like Little Angel and Beebee

Finn and it's just your kids watch these or one of your kids? My daughter sort of does and it's just like they're really long and there's no story and it's just song

and it just goes forever and it's just like a baby wandering around whatever I could show you a clip to kind of get a sense of what this is do you remember when there was that trend on YouTube for some reason

it was a Spider-Man whatever yeah what was going on there because this was pre-AI so people were making those or did they have some sort sort of system that could generate like an auto-complete that was building those? I don't know. I think people were just acting them out. Acting them out. Here's an example of this show. And look, I get it. It's just like,

you know, it's stuff that kids can kind of mindlessly. There we go. I'm just going to show you and maybe people can hear this. I don't know. It's sort of Pixar-esque, isn't it? I can do it by myself. Bup, bu, buy myself. Yeah. I can do it by myself. All right.

That's enough of that, James. That's enough of that. Imagine that, but it goes for 40 minutes. Oh, and it'll be louder because it would be on the TV, wouldn't I hate it? So, you know. Jones, I hate it. But, you know, like, with like pepper pig and things like that, there's short and there's like a story. But this is just like.

I don't know. I don't see a lot of kids media. What was the, I guess, mully grubs because it had that as a kid it was that horrifying Yeah face That faceless woman Yeah

But I don't know Just edutainment For me That was Hated it Yeah Trying to sneak in like Different continents or whatever

Yeah Yeah Well like you know The pulley system Shut up In Australia There's only one continent North America

Absolutely Babap We both We both saluted Yeah Yeah Cool man You got so many, James

Calm down This is from Kieran Kieran Hello James and Mesa I've been listening Since I was in school And now I'm an adult working adult job So the passage of time is wild

I work in an electrical store That has had the film Wicked Demoing on TV since March By my rough calculations That means it plays 15 times a week And by this point I've seen the film 550 plus times since it released My question is

Have you ever seen a movie that many times It has made you unable to watch the actors In anything else Currently, I'm unable to watch anything with the Wicked cast without getting PTSD. That's terrible. Yeah. Why is that happening? That's crazy.

Who's in charge of this? Because it doesn't even look that good. Doesn't look that good. And why is it a DVD? Is it on streaming? It must be. Do you reckon it's on a hard drive and it's just looped? Oh, maybe it's just the only thing on the hard drive and it's too difficult to

unplug the hard drive and put a new thing on it. That's torture. Probably a manager did it at home. Yeah. You put the file on the thing and then brought it to work. And now it's like, well, I'd have to take the thing and take it back home. Does it play noise? I don't have any.

more information, James. I'd imagine it's on silent. That has never happened to me, right? I know you watch Police Academy 7, like 19 times. I wish Police Academy 6, 24 times. Yeah. I haven't seen Police Academy 7 more than once. Okay, great. No, I don't really have anything that's even close to what you're talking about. That's crazy, no. Yeah. I'm fascinated by people who can see a movie that many times. Yeah. Like, isn't there that famous photo of Brie Larson and she's meeting a fan who's watched the first Captain Marvel? Like, he's watched it 100 times or whatever. That is famous. It's too many, it's too many times. Yeah, and let's be real, it's not that good.

I'd be like, it's all right. Yeah, it's fine, it's not a hundred times, isn't it? No movies a hundred times. No. Do you think Brie Larson, upon meeting, that person's like, huh, hmm, there are other movies. I did this. I've broken this person. Yeah, that is, well, exactly right.

Yeah. Do you think a person like that also watched a prior movie a hundred times? Or do you think they were completely normal until Captain Marvel came out and then they're like, snapped? No, I think they've probably got that in him. They've got that dog in him, and they've been doing that for a while. Okay, right. If I had to say. Okay.

Well, that's all right. That's better for Braylarsen, I think. I think so. Because otherwise it's like, it should be like, have you watched any other movies 100 times? No, just this one, you'd be like, all right. I mean, also, like, this is probably the same for you. When I was a kid, and I don't think it's just because we had, like, less media.

But I would just watch movies again and again. Like, I watched Terminator 2, like, 400 times. Oh, absolutely, yeah. And I could still watch it now. But you've got to space it out. Yeah. Yeah. For me, I'd be like, there must be other movies that I've got to watch

before I watch Captain Marvel for the 101st time. Yes, and there is. There's Captain Marvel 2, The Marvels. Captain Marvel 2, The Marvels. Wow, a wild thing to happen to you. And by the, you should intervene. Stop whatever, stop it. Like, stop that from happening to you.

That's torture, legitimately. Nathan Gonzalez says, what were the best Christmas gifts you guys remember getting as young lads? Mason, you got any. favorite Christmas gifts from Santam Clause? That's Santom Clause. I mean, obviously the gift of friendship. You didn't give me that.

I made that myself. Through socialization? Socialization. Okay. I've got a couple of mine come to mind. Here's the photo of the man. This guy saw Captain Marvel 140 times. You shouldn't have.

140? 140 times. All right. In cinemas? I mean, don't know. Let's assume yes. I can't. I can't.

Yeah. I got a remote control boat once That's cool Did you take it out on the boat lake? No, took it out of the local pond How was that? Good, really good Were you worried that it was gonna run out of batteries

And then in the middle? I'd be worried the whole time Because back in the day The batteries and those things lasted like 10 minutes Yeah, you don't and doesn't give you a little meter No, doesn't give you a meter Doesn't give you a meter You don't have a little screen or nothing

Yeah You would just be using the, you'd just be on the pond And then it would stop in the middle of the pond You're like, boy I hope the tide brings that back Yeah Because otherwise you're going to have to walk into the pond The tide of the pond Yes, the pond tide.

Yeah. I love a remote control car as a kid. Do you prefer the sticks or the wheel? Sticks. Wait. I like the wheel. Yeah. There's got to be a better way.

There's got to be a better way. Because the old remote control was like one stick was forward and backwards and one stick was left and right. Give me a steering wheel and a... I guess that's what the little wheel is. Then I guess the wheel then. But there's got to be a better way. It's a wheel and a trigger.

I should have to be like, car. Go forward. Like I do in my room. real car like you're doing your real car in real life yeah uh for me i remember getting a full size voltron oh yes and i think it was secondhand my parents would like i don't care voltron was incredible and i got intari lynx and i was like this is the best thing that's ever happened to me nice and that feeling has never been matched that's a shame i know because it's not that good you could see a captain marvel 140 times true i mean you know i can buy a PlayStation 5 but like you already have one

exactly there's one literally i can see it on the ground yeah that's all right it's good that's my um that's the PlayStation 5 I use for a stand of my other PlayStation 5 that I put on top of it. Oh yeah, just in case you, one of your PlayStation 5, this isn't tall enough. Exactly. Yeah. You get it. I get it. I've gone Rob Mac Mad, Mason.

It seems like you have. Mad with power. Yeah, any other gifts are you remember getting? The gift of friendship. Yes. Wait. Wait a minute. Go on.

No, that's all right. I'm going to give you the gift of letting that go. You're really pissing me off. Yeah, nice. That's what friends are for. Here's one more email from Nile. Nile? Hi, Guy.

Nile, Texas. After last week, I need you to go through every sexiest man alive and figure out if it was the right choice. All right, no problem. I think you love 2016. I know this one. I know exactly what you're talking about. Is it Johnny Depp? It might be.

Johnny Depp's definitely in there. Sexiest man. And we are qualified for this. Yep. We are definitely qualified for this. I mean, we could do a whole episode on this, but why don't we do it from 2010 up? Okay, let's do it. There's too many of these.

Let's skim them. 2010 was Ryan Reynolds Do they also do sexiest women alive Or does nobody care about that It's only sexiest men alive I think all women are beautiful But let me be clear Not all men are beautiful

Some are real I goes That's very true isn't it But not the ones you think No Ryan Reynolds 2010 Yeah that makes sense Yeah Also a lot of these men I think

Are gonna look very different then Than they do now Because of passage of time Passage of time Or do you mean just the perception of them I think both Yeah Yeah. And also the work they've had done.

The work that they're weird faces. Yeah. And then we've got, well, speaking off, people are 2011, Bradley Cooper. That's pre-his surgery on his face. Yeah, people don't like his face or whatever he did. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know. No, I don't know either. Sometimes they're like, because it'll come up on Instagram, whatever, like, this guy's had all this work. And I'm like, he looks like he's older, or he's had. Oh, he's shiny? He's shiny or the angle of the photo is different? I don't know. Yeah. What was Bradley Cooper doing in 2011?

Because this was, I guess that was after... Limitless? It was limitless. Was it limitless? Yeah, it was limitless. It was also, he did a hangover, et cetera. We're going, we're going 2012. My bloody, a limitless hangover.

That's like bloody, um, every weekend for me. Is it? A limitless hangover, yes. Oh. Limitless was 2011. Yes. Yeah. Uh, 2012 was Channing Tatum, seems right.

Makes sense. 2012. When was, was he doing, um, magical Michael? Uh, that was, that was there that year, actually, I think. I know, I know movies. Yeah. He'd done magical Michael, The Vow and 21 Jump Street. Okay.

He said, my first thought was... That was a big movie. He said, my first thought was, y'all are messing with me. Well, that's, I mean, that's the humble that we associate with the sexist man alive. This is a fun one. 2013 is Adam Levine. Nah. Of Maroon Fire.

Yeah. Never. Dork. Wow. Just because of his dork tattoos? Yeah, that's part of it. Is it that all his tattoos, if you zoom in close enough, they just say tattoos. tattoo on it. It's just a tattoo of an anchor or whatever. It says default tattoo.com on it.

It's an honor he took with a grain in the salt, he said. Oh, yeah. I'll just throw out of the pile with all my other awards. Yeah. You feel like you owe it to be kind of self-depreciating about it because it is an iconic thing, but also silly. It's going to hit me when I'm constantly the butt of every joke, every friend and family member makes in the next 20 years of my life, but I'm ready to handle it. I didn't even know you were this. I mean, maybe your friend's family do. What about this on, Mason? 2014, it's a Chris Hemsworth. It's a long-haired Chris Hemsworth. Oh, hell yeah. I would say.

Australia's own Chris Hemsworth. You'd get that to him now. Byron Bay's own Chris Hemsworth. Yep. Home and away's own. Home and away's own. 2015 was David Beckham. David Beckham. Lovely fellow, it seems. Seems like a nice fella. Lined up to see the Queen's body or whatever. Did he? Yeah, he was in the line all day or night or whatever.

Now the 2015, this is the one that he was like, 2016. 2016. Oh, no. This is great. There you go. Oh, the rock. It's the rock.

Wow. I don't know. He's not, it's not, he's not that. I mean, we don't know the people who are into. Nobody's into the rock. Interesting. Do you know, married with multiple children?

He's been married a couple of times, I think. Okay. But, uh, I don't know. He's just not, it'd be like calling Arnold the sexiest man alive. It's like, yeah, he's handsome. He's big. But like, he is big. You know.

He's shit and his wife. Sure That's an okay thing to do Apparently Oh, this is a fun one Yeah, but I mean, you know I'll tell you what At this point in his life

He's probably That was probably peak Peak of the career And he's probably being charismatic On interviews Being charismatic in interviews You know Absolutely

We've got a 2017 And we've got a Blake Shelton I don't really know who that is No You know what's interesting about Is he um Musician Maybe

TV presenter. Sometimes they'll throw in a TV presenter. Country star. Is he? All right. No, good on him. They're big. Like, wow, we're down to somebody who is somewhat symmetrical.

Ocany aside, blah, blah, blah. He's always married to Gwen Stefani. Got to say, man, they're making a lot of the white decisions here. Oh, no, here we go. Like the Rock. Yeah, like the Rock. Idris Alba. There we go.

Yes, 100%. No, no disagreements there. Yeah. I just saw Blake Shelton's face, and I'm like, that's the whitest man I've ever seen in my life. You're sitting across from me, James. Yeah. Wow.

But 2019, John Legend. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Hmm. I mean, come, Idris Albert, John Legend, Blake Shelton. I don't think he's even the same species. Do you know what I mean? I've never heard John Legend's song.

Yeah. Maybe he's all sexy in it. Maybe he's all sexy. It's probably all sexy in it. He's got that song that goes, I'm too sexy for my shirt. So that's a good song. Yeah. This one I hard, hard agree, 2020, Michael B. Jordan.

Nice, good. Yep. Not Michael Jordan, just to be clear. Sure. Yeah. 2021 might be controversial Paul Rudd. I mean, I like it. No, that works.

Yeah. Very genial. Good looking, genial, movie star. Funny. Abbs. Abbs sometimes. Was that an Ant-Man era? It would have been.

2021. Yeah. So that's post-end game. And then 2022, it just says Kevin Rudd. It says Kevin Rudd. Kevin Rudd, former Prime Minister of Australia. Recently married Anthony Albanese. Albo.

Wow. 22, Chris Evans. Feels late. Doesn't it though? But I agree But when was Knives out? Before 2019 Was it?

Yeah This was his ghosted era Crosseven Which is the worst year Of course 7 See here's the thing I don't disagree Handsome Charming

Sometimes I reckon Feels like a lifetime achievement award Of being handsome Yeah Maybe the PR departments Are getting involved And like he's got something To promote

Oh yeah And so Apple's just like He's a billion Hey People magazine He's a billion dollars Here's one they're putting out in 2020 Okay It feels late

but I do agree with it. It's a Patrick Dempsey. Absolutely. That's a lifetime achievement. That's a lifetime achievement being sexy, having good hair. That's right. 2024, John Krasinski. Nope.

Wow. Look at these pictures even. Yeah. See, that says everything to me, Mason. I think that feels like somebody, I think they're struggling to find a winner that year. Yeah. And they went, who haven't we given it to?

Who could we have given it to some point? John Krasinski, very charming, you know, he's the world's boyfriend in the office or, or whatever. He's the world's boyfriend. Let's give it to him. And people are like, a bit late. But all right.

And, of course, this year was Jonathan Bailey, which I also agree with. 100%. First, openly gay man. I mean, there might be some other closeted gay man in here. Let me just go through the list. Oh, yeah, there's one. Wow. There's another one.

Huh, interesting. Which is fine. Well, 8 out of 10. That's interesting. Harrison Ford got it in 98. Did he? Which is interesting. Was that witness?

No. It was way after with us. That was like the one he did with Anne H. Like that year. Oh, six day, seven nights. Yeah. Denzel Washington got in 96. That's a good one.

Brad Pitt's had it twice. So it's Richard. You said we're only going to do 15 years. Yeah, I know. I'm just going back. Richard Gere and Cindy Crawford got it in 1993. Nick Nolty. Richard Gere and Sid, okay.

Richard Gere, I mean, that makes sense. Nick Nalti, 92. I'm just going back. Patrick Swayzee. Tom Cruise, 1990. I guess 99. Sean Connery, 89. What if we did?

What if we went through the sexiest, women list and we're just like, nah, ugly, nah. John F. Kennedy got it in junior, got it in 1988, and the previous year that RFK Jr. Who's Harry? RFK Jr. Yeah. No, you're a son of a bitch. I was like, who's Harry Hamlin? He got 87. Oh, you know, he's so tanned. He doesn't look that tanning in this one. Interesting. Good hair. Very good hair. I don't know him. He's married to, or he was married to Lisa Rinner. Okay. Mark Harmon got it in 86. Makes sense. Mel Gibson 85. Makes sense for 85.

That's where it stops. Yeah, it makes sense for 85. Yeah. All right, that's interesting. We could have done a whole episode on that. I got this one, Mason, from Stephen's Sandkees, says, have you read any of the recent-ish Star Wars Expanded Material? If so, which stuff?

No. What kind of stuff would you like to see get made? I looked through my list of things, and yeah, I read the first three issues of Legacy of Vader, which is a Ben Solo color end book by Charles Sol. So I like Charles Saul. Me too, and it's gone on quite a bit since then, So I am going to catch up on that because I did, I did quite like it. It's set between 8 and 9.

Okay. Yeah. So there you go. Well, that's great. But what do I want to see? The Mandalorian fight groglet. Absolutely. That's what I want to see.

That's right. No holds barred. Steel chairs. Yeah. Big groglet, like you said. That's right. Big and wide. Big wide groglet.

He's like, guess what, Mando? I'm big now. A big wide groglet. I'm big now and I'll stomp on you. Yeah. This is how I say on there. Forget thin bat, man. It's big wide groglet.

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What is that? Zootopia? Tutopia. I'm not saying that. Tutopia? Tutopia. No, no, no. Let me check my list of things, which I love.

Okay, great. Just says Zootopia? It says Zootopia and then Tootopia. Wow. Five nights at Freddy's, maybe. And there was supposed to be Wonder Man, but did they push that? Or is that out? No, we'd know if it was out.

No, I mean, will it come out? Oh. Because I remember hearing it was in. No, it's now being pushed to Lake January. I see. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot, Wonder Man. So maybe five, nine.

at Freddy too? I guess. I guess. Did you like the first one? We could watch Eternity. Oh, I did want to see Eternity. Something, something, something. Or we could not.

We've got to wait till January for Song Sung Blue. What's that? It's the one about Kate Hudson and Hugh Jackman. They're in a Neil Diamond tribute band. Oh, yeah. We could skip that, I reckon. Okay. Okay, then great.

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