The Weekly Planet - 611 Best/Worst Crossovers & Wuthering Heights

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

It's been a while since a topic episode. And I blame the neverending barage of content QUITE FRANKLY. But this week we're discussion the best and worst crossovers of all time across movies, tv shows and comics books. Plus we talk the passing of Robert Duvall, a new synopsis for Spider-Man: Brand New Day Synopsis, plans for The Batman Trilogy, the Tom Cruise vs. Brad Pitt AI update, trailers for The Mandalorian vs. Groglet and Toy Story 5, what happened to The Hunt for Ben Solo movie and we review Wuthering Heights. Thanks for listening!New bonus let's play video out now and it's STAR WARS! Check out the entire back-catalogue of Never Go Back series plus every movie commentary, bonus podcast, Q&A episode, ad-free feeds and early access on bigsandwich.coPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start02:38 RIP Robert Duvall07:16 Spider-Man: Brand New Day Synopsis10:23 The Batman Trilogy & DCU Plans13:48 Cruise vs Pitt Fight AI Update19:06 Game of Thrones: Dunk & Egg Recap21:08 Toy Story 5 Trailer23:30 The Mandalorian & Grogu Trailer27:26 Kylo Ren Ben Solo Movie Latest30:35 Best & Worst Crossovers Topic01:04:44 What We Wuthering, What We Gonna Read01:18:40 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the weekly planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, and with me is always on my coast. That's Nick Mason. Let me tell you, that was an excellent start. Thank you. Better than last week, where you were late? I wasn't late. I was on time.

You were late. I wasn't. Yes, you were. I was already in the room. Disagree. But anyway, good precision, I thought. Thank you. A lesser podcaster would have messed up, that completely useless thing that you do.

That useless talent you have. An unpracticed mind. Absolutely. I hear what you say. I appreciate that. Thank you. It's great to be here. It is great to be amazing because it's a big week for movie news.

Yep. And it's an even bigger week for a topic episode, which we're doing. We're going to skim through. And it's also a big week for big movie. It is big movie week as well. We both watched a big movie. We did, yeah. But you were like, maybe not enough to talk about big movie.

Yeah, that's right. Let's do more than just, let's do more than simply talk about big movie. Yeah. People are like, do a topic. I'm like, fine, we'll do a topic. But then we're not doing any more topics. This is it. This is the last topic.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's it. And we might have also done this already. Who knows? You think so? I don't know. It doesn't matter. It's irrelevant.

Who's listened to all these episodes? Nobody. It doesn't matter. Nobody's listening at all. As far as we know. Yep, that's right. We're alone in this universe. Mason, so this.

Just me and you. Just me and you. Oh, maybe just you. I don't know. Maybe. So. You do seem like a kind of one dimensional caricature that I would invent. Thank you so much.

He's good at can tricks, fake guy. Yeah. Man of no substance. Is that what you're saying? Exactly. Appreciate that. We've got the news of the week, though, in the lead-up. We've got the passing of Robert Duval. Boo! We've got a synopsis for the next Spider-Man movie.

Hooray! We've got an update maybe on whether we're getting two Batman movies at the same time or whatever. Nice. We've got that Tom Cruise versus Brad Pitt AI Controversy update thing. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, we've got trailers for Toy Story 5 and The Mandalorian versus Groglet. Love it. And a little bit of news.

It's not good news around that out of... and drive a spin-off. Hunt for Benzollah. Hunt for Benzolle movie or whatever it's called or whatever. It's back on? No. Time goes below, Robert Collins, who edits this. He does a heck of a job making that happen.

As one of the fake guys that I've invented, he's maybe the best. Of all the fake guys. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not the best guy that you've invented. That's interesting. No, I mean, anybody could be you, but not anybody could be Rob Collins, you know what I mean? Because he's multi-talented and very good at everything.

Yeah, yeah, but how has his can opening skills? Let's hear one. Tremendous. I didn't know we could do that. Yeah. So, um, let's start here, Mason. Yes.

Legendary actor. Robert Duval has passed away at age 95. Oh, no. Good innings. Give you that much. Incredible innings. A statement from his wife. Luciana Pedraza said,

yesterday we said goodbye to my beloved husband, cherished friend, and one of the greatest actors of our time. Bob passed away peacefully at home, surrounded by it. What is Bob? Bob. I don't know.

Surrounded by Trying to steal Robert DeViles Thunder, it seems that way Surrounded by love and comfort It is funny when like Robert Redford or whatever We call him Bob It's like, who you're talking about? Yeah But yeah

Robert Redford Robert Redford, yeah But in this case A different bar Yeah I mean to name some of the movies he was in Go ahead Two of the Godfather movies

That's right Refused to be in the third Because they weren't going to pay him enough So he was like not not doing it Fair enough Incredible Apocalypse Now Days of Thunder That's right

Bullets, he was in Bullets He was in Bullets He was in Bullets It's one of his earliest roles. He's the cab driver that sort of cab drives Steve McQueen around before he's in the big car chase. Steve McQueen's like, thank you for your service, but I'd rather drive my big Ford Mustang. Bullets. I'd rather drive bullets.

Vroom, Vroom. Yeah. Is that what he says? Yep. Great. Time to Vroom, he says. Time to Vroom. That's his cash phrase.

I should re-watch Bullet. Yeah. Watch it on a small TV, very small. How small? Phone? That's not a TV. You want to, so a TV or a phone the size of a TV, no, or a TV the size of a phone. What are we talking about?

Okay, cool. Gotcha. One of those tiny little box ones with the rabbities aerial. Place, yeah. True grit. Did you say true grit? I haven't said true grit. No, but he is in True Grit.

He was in the original MASH movie. He was in T-HX-1-3-8. He is. He was in Falling Down. He was in Thank You for Smoking. He was in that clone movie that Arnold was in or whatever. The Sixth of the Day. He was in that or whatever, wasn't it?

Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's not important. Bradford Coppola, praised of Arles, one of the four or five best actors in the world. It's pretty good. Quick Copeland. Name the other three or four, Coppola. Oh, interesting.

Nicholas Cage related to you. Interesting. Jason Schwartzman. Oh, wow. Interesting. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Talibh Shriah. Oh, wow. Wow. Wow. She, wait. She relates to him. Sophia Copla. Wow.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Because he was in Megalopolis. I fucking, I don't like that guy, man. I mean, we've been saying it for years. And then every now and then it's like, Shilabhubh apology tour.

And then he would just do something else. Yeah. Then he just tried to punch somebody in a bar. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't know. Yep. Fuck him. Yeah.

Anyway. People have said, because we used to do a segment, which was Batman v. Superman News or Shail LeBuff News. Yeah. And both became increasingly irrelevant over the years. So, yeah, I mean, what incredible legacy, amazing actor, Days of Thunder, man. Oh, yeah.

Remember they were wrestling in Days of Thunder? Yes. We watched that recently. We did a commentary on it. Love to have fun. And apparently chewed out, Was it really not who Ridley Scott who directed that? The other Tony Scott apparently.

Yeah, Randy Newman mentioned that he was still. He never seen somebody like chew out somebody like he did, which is fantastic stuff. Here's a story about Robert DeValle showing up to audition for Dr. Watson in a Sherlock Holmes movie. Okay. While in character as Woody Guthrie. So he was playing Woody Guthrie in Bound for Glory. And so he showed up like he had the Oklahoma accent he was wearing. What you were that being?

This would have been, damn, I don't know, mid-60s? Yeah, I guess. Because he did a bunch of tea. Late 70s, I don't know. Yeah. But he shows up in the accent. He's wearing the fringed leather jacket. Yeah.

And he's speaking with his twang and he's talking to the producers and he says, well, I'll be getting along now. And by the way, I bring you this tape of me talking like Dr. Watson. And he presents him the tape. And they said, you've done it. They listen to the cassette and out comes this Oxbridge speech. of this entirely different person. You could not believe it was the same guy. Oh shit, so it wasn't like, I was good.

Yeah, well, he's the thing. One of the producers said, let me play this for Nora. So he gets on the phone with his assistant, I think. And he plays the tape. She says, Herbert, who is that? Is that Mel Brooks? If you want to throw this film in the toilet, go ahead and pick that person.

Damn, got him. Yeah. Wow. Then they went through another bunch of people. They called an executive a 20th century Fox who had an English secretary. They went to her and they said, we're having an argument, is this accent South African or Australian that we're listening to? She played to the tape.

She said, no, that's Oxbridge. That's BBC English. So he was right the whole time. He was right. Wow. There you go. And he didn't get the role. And he exploded.

Also, Watson? Yeah, come on. Come on, man. Aim higher. Anyway, amazing work. Yeah. This is by a penguin random house. What, do you, Benedict Cumberbatch over there?

Shut up. You shut up. Okay. I will shut up. after the podcast. Okay. So they released... You have some mandatory shut up time.

Definitely. They released the synopsis for Spider-Man brand new day, which is the next Spider-Man movie coming out. Everybody's going nuts on the internet. Just saying here's the entire plot synopsis of this movie, and here's everybody's ever going to be in it. He's every bit of leaked concept art. So when the movie comes, you can go, I saw...

I knew that. I knew what was going to happen. What kind of helmet he had? I knew what he had. I saw it. Yeah. No, I haven't been... Boomerag.

I hardly did. Noah. I haven't even looked. But I knew. I didn't look into any of these. I haven't read any of the leaks. No, I haven't either. But I'm just like,

don't you, doesn't anybody want to be surprised anymore? Oh, me. I want to know everything. Isn't anybody off their phones and wanting to be surprised now? I think so everybody's on their phone and not wanting to be surprised.

Four years have gone by since we last caught up with our friendly neighbourhood hero. Oh, so now it's 20, 30. 28, I think. 2028. Peter Parker is no more. Also, people are like, oh, actually, this came out in 2020,

but it's actually said in 2020. So, because of the time. It's set now. Whatever it is, it's just set now. It's fine. Also, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Everything's just set now.

Peter Parker is no more, but Spider-Man is at the top of his game, keeping New York safe. Things are going well for our anonymous hero until an unusual trial of crimes pulls him into a web of mis... Web? A mystery larger than his... Mystery? Mysterious so that he's ever faced before.

Larger? Larger? Yeah. It's probably... What are we doing? He's doing? Absolute Batman. It might be...

He's large. Big large, absolute Batman. In order to take on what's ahead, Spider-Man only needs to be the top of his physical and mental game, but he must also be prepared to face the repercussions of his past. Don't you think this boy has been through enough? He dragged him into shit. It's got to be at the top of his physical game. Well, he's superhumanly strong.

Yeah, he's already done that. He doesn't have to do it by Spider-Betor. He doesn't have to do anything. Yeah, but he wants to face repercussions of things that Dr. Strange did to him by doing a spell or whatever. That's right. Yeah. An Iron Man outing him or whatever. No, it was Jake Gillian.

Hall, hysteria so. So yeah, what do you think of that? Pretty good, man. Pretty good, man. When's this out again? Like July something. This year. Yeah, it's out this year. What do you say like that? I don't know. This year, why is that unusual? July 31st, there we go. I'm excited. Let's see what happens. There's going to be some practical web swinging and whatever, which people say never do because it doesn't look that good, but maybe they've figured it out. I don't know. No, stills look good. They do look good. He was on that tank. You was on that tank. Couldn't get him off that tank. It was on that tank for months seemingly.

Yeah, exactly. Based on all those leaked photos. Tom Holland, get off that tank. I won't get off the tank. Why not? I like it up here. Okay, well, um, we can't make you. So I guess you...

I've set up a little tea party on the top of the tank. Sendaya's coming later. She's not coming, man. No, she's... She said she would. Yeah, she said a lot of things. None of them are good. So, um, God bless them.

Good luck to them. It's true Hollywood love, maybe, I don't know. It seems that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, do you want some of some. Batman updates. Nah. Chalk this down to a rumor.

Chalk this up to a room. What did I say? What did I say? It's a rumor, so it's not news. All right. Okay. It's by Daniel Richmond. Story, rumor.

The Brave and the Bold. This is hardly news then. Maybe. You got me on a technicality. He's got an okay. We've talked about it before. He's got an okay strike record. It doesn't look like he's exclusively making up stuff.

Is what I'm saying. The Brave and the Bold, which is the DCU Batman movie, which is separate than the Batman movie, the Rob Patton's one. Patterns won. We'll not be coming up for years as James Gunn wants to get the Batman part three out sooner

and wrap up the Reeves trilogy. He doesn't want there to be two Batman. Nah, man. You know, right? This is wild speculation. This is crazy. First of all, the Batman part two. Like, James Gunn's not going to be like,

well, the Batman part two is taking years to make. Yeah. But before we do anything else, we're going to make sure the Batman part three comes out. Yeah. Nah, man. Unless he's gone like, unless Reeves is going,

contract is he does the Batman part one and two and then they just get whoever to do three and they knock it out in six months. Yeah, okay. This is not happening. This is crazy. All right. This is crazy. Yeah. I mean, it's been such a long time at seems since the last one as well. And they need to establish a Batman. I agree. But also like, I was going to say it's okay to rest Batman, but they're not resting Batman. There's literally a series of Batman movies happening. Yeah. Right now. I don't know. I think there is something to be said about having two Batman's at once, but I think people would get over it. I think they're. should get over in all honesty maybe they only should use batman and i mean we're getting a clay face

movie this year that's true which is a batman spin off but not of the batman it'll be of the dc u batman so i don't know there might be some hints towards it there that was actually news i got you son of a bitch it was still a rumor but rumors can be news don't you think i wish i weren't true so i've got this picture of fucking on my i've got a youtube tab open and it's just a picture you're watching youtube while we're recording no it's just open see i've just got it like like you know it's just open next to my people dock. Just in case you want to look at a thumbnail? No, it's Prince Andrew. And it's just a picture of Prince Andrew, like, hit the car.

It's that picture that... Oh, he's like, oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, oh, no. Looks like Darth Vader after he took the helmet off. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I, if, I reckon, do you reckon they, do you reckon they're going to put a little clue to Batman in Clayface? Absolutely. Absolutely. You think they've, you think they've cast him? No, I don't. I mean, he's in creature commandos as well. We've seen him in other stuff.

I don't know. I honestly don't know. But I, um, do you think it'll be a scene where the police capture Clayface? And then they put him in Arkham or whatever. And then Batman shows up and the police like, who are you? This guy was chopping people up. He's got clay powers, I think, maybe. Yeah, but he went to...

Or he's just regular. He went to Hollywood and Batman can't go to Hollywood. That's true, isn't it? Even though he did in that comic, I think, at the end, I think he just went. Can't remember. You read that Batman Clayface comic. It's good. I read it not that long ago.

I think I talked about it here. I didn't read it. It's good. All right then. It's worth looking at. Look at it. Here's something not worth looking at. We talked about this.

I'm sorry, no, that's all I have. We talked, because you open your hand like you're going to say something or give me a gift of $5. I don't want your monster energy

zero urine drink or whatever it is. It's zero. There's maximum urine. Brother, is that even me? Brother, I just think you need some urine. You know what I mean? I've got enough urine,

thank you very much. I'm urine enough. I think you know that about me. Agreed? Yeah. Good. We talked about this last week. There was an AI video of Tom Cruise fighting Brad Pitt.

Over who loves Jeffrey Epstein the most. Yes. Yeah. And I said, wow, they seem like two very non-litigious men in real life. Yeah. I bet they will not touch this, but they'll just let it lie on the internet for some reason. That's right. And what happened?

Well, they didn't specifically reach out, but Variety have said that Paramount sent bite dance a cease and desist letter over their AI videos alleging intellectual property infringement. You can't use AI, only we can use AI. That's right. We love AI, but you don't do it. Paramount's letter to buy... You stole our idea of Brad Pitt fighting Tom Cruise over who loves Jeff Treepstein the most of the movie.

And the winner gets to be in the F1 sequel. Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. AI, though. We won't pay them. You don't need to pay anybody.

That's true. The letter states much of the content that the seed platforms produce contains vivid depictions of Paramounts famous in the iconic franchises and characters. including Brad Pitt, our most famous franchise. That's right, which protected under copyright, law, trade mode, law and other, and the law of unfair competition. I think this is... And the law of the land. Yes.

I think also this is... Like, I would say Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt would let out the companies go into bat for them, as opposed to tackling... To save... Well, certainly to save their, you know, their PR stand. Like, they don't want to be known as litigious guys, but they're very happy... Even though they fucking are. Yeah, they're very happy to let their teams go in, I would imagine. Yeah, absolutely.

In a statement by Bight Dance, they said, Bynet Dance respects intellectual property, actually. And we have heard the concerns regarding C-Dance 2.0. Seed Dance, C-Dance or Seed-A-Dance, I don't know. We are taking steps to strengthen current safeguards as we work to prevent the unauthorized use of intellectual property and likeness by users. No, you're not.

But too bad companies here, by the way. But this is just a way to, I don't know, what did you say? It's just, because, like what happened with Disney, they just want control of this. It's not about fair use or trademark or whatever it is. Yeah, it's just about having the stuff. The larger companies are like, well, you know what we could do is we could just harness this technology so we can make everything on the cheap. So we don't want to you doing that.

Yeah. We want to make cheap blockbuster stuff and you will devalue what we have if you can also do that. Yeah, exactly. You devalue our crap. So that's kind of where we're out with this. Any, you see any fun AI videos this week, James? I don't think so. Should I have?

No, I saw one and it was on Twitter, and it's a guy he made it, and it's like, it's a video of a man, and he's got a mustache and a mullet. He looks like a bit like Tom Selleck, and he's smoking a cigar and a spaceship. I'm loving it. And then the spaceship goes down onto this ice planet, and there's aliens or whatever,

and he's got two guns, and he just shoots the two guns, and all the aliens die and everything explodes, and then he rescues the princess. From the, but he crashed, but he crashed landed. No, he landed. Okay, landed, okay. And then the guy's like, yeah, no, I made this for, you know, I made, I made this over the weekend. It was just a fun exercise.

I did all the editing and blah, blah, blah and whatever. And it's like, you know, as an idea. What, a guy lands a ship and rest of the concert. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's just Star Wars. Like, it's just, like, I understand, like, as an exercise, like, if you were to make a little, you know, a little flipbook, a little thing. It's like, okay, well, you did that, and that's good. You had, you know, the, the, the, making.

the flipbook didn't destroy rainforest, but it's a thing you made and that's fun, but it's like, there are people in the, there are people in the comments are always like, this is actually better than anything Hollywood's producing. Hollywood just produces. No, this is worse.

It's the amount of effort, it's a guy who made it over the weekend or whatever, but also like, it's just a guy rescues a princess. Yeah. Like I don't, you don't need, no one needs to make this.

Yeah, but was everybody white? Is that what they're talking about? Because Hollywood's woke or whatever? The main character and the princess were both white. That's interesting. I'm not saying that that's necessarily, but I would say to some people that definitely play a factor.

People like, this is better than any, what movies do you see? Also, I mean, that is also a pretty solid condemnation of a lot of stuff that Hollywood does make, that a lot of people see this and a Marvel movie and go, it looks about the same. Yeah, it looks about the same. It's like, well, maybe you should lift your game.

Maybe they should. Yeah. And I think maybe you do that through getting proper writers for things. Proper writers and don't kill you. visual effects guys. Oh yeah, that's right. You gotta do that as well,

don't you. God, everybody, everyone's got an agenda. They do, don't know they. You know what I mean? Don't kill the guys you work with.

Don't kill guys. Don't kill guys. Yeah. Don't destroy the rainforest. Don't kill guys. God. But just like, like, again,

like as a, again, if it didn't destroy the environment and, you know, destroy all the, you know, burn off all the fresh water or whatever. It would be fun.

It's fun to make a little, a little video or whatever. But again, this isn't, it's not, it's not for, like, there's no intentionality and there's no, it's not for anything. I don't need to see a short video of a man saving a princess, because I've seen that a million times. Exactly. And they're all really good. Yeah. They are good. Well, I'm glad you saw a good AI video this week. So good. I saw, I probably did too, I reckon, if I thought about it hard enough, but I haven't. Uh, trailers a hoi. Hong. Is that right? Could be. All right. Two trailers of

note. There was a bunch of others. There was a new house of the dragon season three. I'm looking at this and I'm like, I don't remember any. I don't know what's going on either. I don't know. You're preoccupied with Dunkin Egg. I'm loving Duncan Egg, man. They're having a good time, those boys. So it is two guys.

Yeah, Dunk and Egg. Okay. Is that all right? Yes. Is egg spelled in a different way? Yeah. Has it spelled? I don't know.

Three G's? One degree. I don't know. It's not egg. It's like short for something. Eggment. Eggman. Eggman.

Okay. So it's Duncan and Egmund. Yeah. Which is easy to say. Yeah. It's also not the, the name of the show. The show is called A Night of Seven Men or whatever. That could be anything. Yeah, but it's not. It's a show that people are enjoying. Okay, but I'm saying more people,

I'm not, no, night of a seven, somebody. No one's watching a show called fucking Duncan Egg, Mason. But they are watching Duncan and Eggman, aren't they? No, they're not. They're literally not. I was talking to somebody and he said, oh, I was watching the Night of the Seven Kingdoms. And it took me a minute to be like, oh, he's that Game of Thrones. But if you were like, I've been watching Duncan and Egmond, I'd be like, oh, the adventures of Duncan and Egmond. The adventures of Duncan and Egman.

Right. It's not happening. Having some time in the seven kingdoms. You know? He's one big and one small? Yeah, one is big and another one small, I guess,

because one's a boy, one's a man. Interesting. Are they father and son? No. Interesting. What are you watching? I'm not going to.

I'd rather speculate, quite frankly. It's very available. I think you have the platform it's on. Nah, not to me. It is Mason. Nah. What in front of me?

I mean, yeah, you got your phone. Oh, could I watch it on this water? Can I watch it in this cup of water? I'd have to turn my head to look at my phone. Can I watch it? Okay, fine. You caught me in the one moment where you're not looking at your phone.

That's right. That's right, and I cherish these moments. Can I watch it on this water? No, you can't, obviously. Wow, check mate. Checkmate, brother. How to get back to my phone. You should watch it, though.

Toy Story 5, though. Got a trailer. On my water. Yeah. That's what you're saying. What do you think about the Toy Story 5? I mean, it looked fun. The villain is an iPad.

People said they should have ended at 3 and whatever. Then they said it should have ended at 4. Yeah, yeah. When it ended at 3, when 4 was announced, people like, oh, there was a perfect ending. I hate movies. And then 4 came out and they went, this is got to actually, all right, we love movies. Yeah. Don't make it fifth one, though, we hate movies.

But they are. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the thing about, I mean, obviously the finale of the last one was that it was, you know, the breaking up of the partnership of Buzz and Woody. And Woody's off for his own adventures and who knows where that elite. He's going across. Maybe we'll be on the other side of the country.

It might as well be the other side of the universe. And it's just like, now, bring him back. That's right there. Bring it back. And he's bald. He is bald. Now, is that because... I think you just got to, yeah, it's like smudged off.

It's been smooged off. Yeah, I've been smooged off. Yeah, there is some rough, there's some older voice work in this that you know to some of the actors. Yeah, that's probably true. Are getting on a bit. But, you know, it's like, I like Toy Story. They're all pretty good. And all the shorts are pretty good and whatever.

Yeah, four was like a nice little bonus thing at the end. If it's just like a further adventure and whatever and they have to fight an iPad. Does that too modern? Does that feel too like? No. I don't think so. No. I don't know.

I mean, also, I would love some more characterization of buzz. I feel like after two, they kind of like sideline him a bit. Right. Like, he had an incredible arc over the first couple of movies. And then he's just kind of like, oh, he's just kind of these. goofball kind of guy, but there's going to be lots of Buzz Light Years and this is saying. That's true, yeah. Pretty cool, man.

This will make a billion dollars, though. 100%. Yeah, that's good. It's good for us. Yeah, it is good for us. We get a piece of that. You got any Disney shares? No.

This isn't good for us at all. You did tell me to get them. You gave me all that money to buy those Disney shares. I did, yeah. Because you couldn't do it for criminal reasons. I'm not allowed to. I bought these magic beans. Yeah?

How were they? I mean, they said, they could get me to the Seven Kingdoms. Yeah? Did you want to make Dunkman and Eggman? I would love to do that, yes. Just waiting. Just waiting for springtime. I hope that happens for you, man. That would be good for this show, I think. This is our June 19th of this year.

There's also... Oh, just before, Spider-Man, brand-new... Yeah, months before or whatever it is. Any month. And then we've got... Yes. A new trailer, a brand-new trailer for the Mandalorian versus Grogler. An actual trailer.

It's an actual trailer that looks better than a regular trailer. Martin Scorsese is in this movie. He is. It's true. It's one of the forearm guys or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a better trailer. Yeah.

It looks more like an actual movie for whatever reason. But is it a movie that looks like it's going to thrill you? That's hard to say at this point, Mason. But I think, I don't know. It's like, I'm here and I've got that hat. Yeah, mate. We're not, we're not in. You got your helmet off.

What do you think about that, Pedro Piscaral? You're on set. We got you. We nailed you down on set for one day and you're here. They got him. Yeah. Yeah. He's helmetless, right?

I mean, it used to be a big deal where he, took his helmet off, but in this they just whip it off. But obviously the reason they went back to helmet on in the third season, we don't see him at all is because he was filming the last of us. And other stuff. Doing a million movies. But now he has to actually be in it legally. That's not true.

It is true. This is also John Fabre, it seems like he's stepping away from Star Wars after this. He had his little tenure or whatever. It's going to open a sandwich fan. You might. I hope he does. So that's good and fun and good and good. I don't know.

Yeah, I still, I am interested. I'm still unclear as to what the plot is or what. And look, generally speaking, I prefer a trailer where I watch it and go, oh, some exciting scenes. You haven't laid out the plot from A to Z, as it were, and that's good for me. But I watch this and I'm like, looks all right, but it doesn't, I'm not, I'm not super excited to be in the cinema for this. Oh, they're in a big corridor.

They're going to jet off on their little rocket roller skates or whatever. What about there's a big muscular jab of the hut? You like that? Nope. voiced by Jeremy Allen White. I like, rah, rah, rah. Ra, right, right, fight me, Mr. Mandelorian. I think they had to take his helmet off in this,

so people were like, oh, this is a movie about a real guy. Yeah, no, for sure. Or whatever he is now. I don't know what he is now, yeah. Yeah, I still don't know what the general public thinks of Star Wars, like what the pulse of this is at all. You're excited. I don't know.

It's a non-stop thrill ride. It might be. They're going to put on their own rocket skates and rocket down that long corridor with the Mandalorian and Groglutut. They're not, they're two best friends. They're not going to do that. I think you know they're not going to do that. that.

I think they might do that. That's stupid. Wow. Well, the general public likes stupid. That's why they listen to this. Yeah, that's probably true. The general public do like this stupid podcast. Yeah.

Yeah. Who's the bad guy? It's not Cadvain. It's a different guy. Yeah, some other dude. I don't know. He's probably from a... Mr. Flathead?

He's probably from a bloody, from a Clone War episode or some shit. So he's not from the Mandalorian? I don't fucking know, man. I'm out of the loop. You think I'm keeping track of every bloody... Of the two of us? Yes.

I do. I guess so. You're keeping track of all the Duncans and Eggmans of the world. I'm not. Yeah, you're trying to get in there using beads. It's different, but all different things. It's true. Yeah, I don't know.

He's probably from something. I don't break down trailers anymore. I don't know what's happening, all right? I've lost it. I mean, is it just a return of the Jedi thing? He's been captured and he's been sent to a Jabber's cousin's nephew's palace or whatever and he's going to fight him? Probably.

Great. Good and great. We'd have you fight the rank or, but some guy killed all the rank. calls a while back. It was a Boba Fett. Yeah, man. No, he didn't. He rode one around a town or whatever.

Correct, yes. I hope Luke Skywark is in this. No, I don't. This is out May 22nd. Okay, who do you hope is in this? Asoka, Tano? No. Giancala Esposito.

No. Trick question, he's a real man. Yes, yes. Do you hope Timothy Oillofant is in this? I have no... Timothy O'Alefan. Okay, that's one. That would be right.

But I don't care. Yeah, of course. This trailer definitely had me go, oh, it's all right. Yeah. But that's it. Same. You've raised my expectations slightly. I have.

Was it worse? Yes, which might be worse in the long run when I see it. I'll be like, ah, nah. First theatrical release Star Wars movie in a long time. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah.

No. Two thumbs down, not. Yeah. That'd probably be fine. Mason, speaking of Star Wars, last bit of news. Okay, go on. This is by BK. Mag.

They spoke to Stephen Soderberg about his Star Wars project. Oh, yes. And this is what he had to say. You know, that was two and a half years ago of work for me. Okay, first of all, wasn't expecting this to be the voice of Steven Soderberg, but I'm okay with it. It's true. Because he worked on Hunt for Ben Solo, whatever it is. Me and Adam, who plays, Hunt for Ben Solo.

Yes. And Rebecca Blunt, when Adam and I discussed him talking about it publicly, I said, look, should not editorialize or speculate about the why. Just say what happened because all we know is what happened. The stated reason, well, it didn't happen, was we don't think Ben Solo could be alive. And that was all that we were told. And so there's nothing to do about it. You know, except move on.

And as I posted, I'd kind of made the movie in my head and just felt bad that nobody else was going to get to see it. Oh, sorry, you don't get to watch the movie in your head, man. Anyway, we'll see it. The movies, folks. It's 14. Boo, boo-bo-bo-bo-dlo-do-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-dood-doo do do do. Yeah. I thought the conversation was strictly going to be a practical one.

Where they go? What's, what is this going to cost? And I had a really good answer for that, but I never even got to that point. It's insane. We're all very disappointed. There you go. They didn't even ask? They weren't like, what's this going to cost?

How does this happen? They just went, nah. That's crazy. Get the fuck out. Amazing. And it's rude. It seems rude. Yeah, you know what he's stupid.

They should have given him this movie. I don't know what they're doing. What are they doing? So what is the timeline of this? Did this happen before, this would have happened before the release of Andor? Yeah, yeah, so around then, yeah. Two and a half years of free work. Yeah.

Is this because Andor came out and a lot of people went, this is the best, Star Wars, because they let a guy do what he wanted. They thought about it. He thought about it and it was good. And then Stoderberg rolls in, Hey, everybody, I'm here to talk about my Star Wars. Ah. Bah!

And they went, not another guy showing us up. Yeah. With a movie that might be good. We'd rather not, thank you. We don't like everybody who knows where dickheads. Yeah, that's right. So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, this could come around again.

No, thank you. I won't wear this customary Star Wars cowboy hat. I don't like this guy. I like the Soderberg character. It doesn't seem like he'll fall in line with our vision of Star Wars. Cowboy hats. Cowboy hats and etc.

So, yeah, I don't know. And again, there's no guarantee that this was going to be good. That's true. But it probably would have been. But now it's only exists in Stephen Soderberg's head. Why does Soderberg,

I guess he's friends with, he's friends with Adam Driver, I guess. Logan Lucky? Yeah, I was going to say Logan Lucky, right? Yeah. They did that together. So I guess they just kind of spitballed it. That's a freaking good movie.

It is a good movie. Yeah. I don't know, man. Hillary Swank's in that. He actually wasn't that lucky. No. No. Thanks, David. It's ironic.

Okay. Anyway, see you at the movies. Probably not. Ocean's 14. Boopo, boop. It's cool and sexy. It is. You excited if oceans, whatever, 14?

Yeah, absolutely. I am. You're a liar. I am, though. Let's do a topic. Okay. Last week we talked about how there was rumors. Oh, yes.

of a Star Wars comic crossover that crosses over with Marvel. And when you say rumors, Rob Lefeld was on a tear. He said it. And he said it. He was like, but does he have the inside track here? I would say so. What do you think he just tried to think of like the most like sterile corporate slop and he went to Avengers Star Wars?

Yeah, it might have been. I think this is going to happen regardless. Oh, absolutely. Because there are other rumors that said maybe it's not true or whatever or no, maybe they were just taking pictures for it and not like, as in PITC-H-E-S. Oh, you sure. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, we'll see.

But I would say, yeah, it's probably going to happen. You'll see Luke Skywark, hit Captain America in the head with a lightsaber order. That's right. Yeah, man. That's the cover. It's Captain America, and he's all cross-eyed, and Luke's Skywalker has put a lightsaber through his head. But halfway. Halfway through his head.

And it says Star Wars Avengers. Yeah. And it's through, like, the front, like, through his forehead. Oh, yeah. From the back. And it's real. You can see all the brain spilling out. Absolutely.

Yeah. And underneath it says, yes, this is canonical. So, yeah, there you go. So I thought, you know, this week we could talk about some of the best and worst crossovers from across media. Oh, yes. Crossovers have been a thing for the longest time. I guess some of the earliest examples of this I've written here.

It's like your Dracula, Frankenstein, the mummy, the wolfman, Abbott and Costello. The Universal Monsters, yes. Yeah. So, because it was, you know, do you think, um, do you think they should, you do a modern day version of this yes i do they did it's filled the mummy for tom cruz well they didn't know but i mean i'm saying like a comedy duo oh like a j and silent bob that's what i'm well not i mean i would say not a not a not like a mr sheffield and miss fine yes obviously that like uh channing tatum and jonahill yeah jonahill because they were going to mib yeah they're

going to m i b yeah or like any anytime there's like a like a really good duo of people i'm always like just bring them back. Nirvana, the band of the show or whatever. Apparently. Something like that. Yeah, okay. So do you think you need to reestablish like the mummy and then bring an iconic duo in? No, I don't think even, I don't know, I just like fun duos on screen.

You're like mucking about, don't you? I just like mucking about. Who's some good combos then? The dude where was my car guys? Can we think of one from this decade? No, most of we can't. That's a shame. What's their names go to White Castle or whatever?

Harold and Kumar. That's a good one, don't you think? That's again, not this decade. What about Jack Reacher and Jack Ryan? What about whatever? So Alan Richardson and John Krasinski? Yes. What about Jason Momoa?

Could call it two Jacks. Two Jacks. Yeah. What about Jason Mamoa and... Dave Batista? I would love that. There you go. They just...

Two enormous men. They just pulverized Frankenstein or whatever. Two enormous men pulverized Frankenstein. Yes. Yeah, Jason Mamoa and Dave Bautista pulverized Frankenstein. It's the Jason Mamoa and Dave Bautista Pulverize series. Great. 100% I would watch that.

They're not looking for a magic amulet to stop whatever. No. They're just going to pulverize it. They just hear that Frankenstein or the mummy or Dracula is in the next town over. And they're like, hey, let's pulverize this guy. Big, come in with a big pickup truck. Do they, are we saving the townspeak? No, man.

I don't care. We're just going to pulverize this guy to prove he. can be pulverized. And it's, you know, it's the Bella Legosi Dragon. Well, welcome. Welcome. And they're like, brother, we're going to pulverize you. And they just lay into him.

And he's like, Blair! And they just, you know. And to be clear, they're not using garlic or steak through the heart or whatever. They're just beating him up. They might use like a table leg or something. Use the table. But not as a steak to the heart. No, no, no, no, just to hit him with it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just roughing him up around his mansion. Throwing him down some stairs. Tumbles into a pile of bats and they start stomp on the bats. Stuff like that. That's what I want. I want two colourful characters getting into stupid adventures.

Because that was a staple for years. Yeah, I agree. You know? I'm with you. Well, Jane Silent Bobb... And they're in their regular clothes. That's what Carrie Grant was... And Fred Astaire or whatever.

They'd just show up on set in what they were wearing. They would be an adventure. It would be Hawaiian shirts. Yes. Maybe for at least one of them. Well, I guess, like, we'll talk about this in mid later. We can talk about it now. But there was a Freddie versus Jason movie.

and there were two characters in it who look a lot like Jay and Silent Bob. They do, yeah. Because they've done some crossover stuff as well, obviously. Well, speaking of, so Bruce Campbell was actually asked to come back to that. We're just going to brush through a bunch of these, obviously. And while you do that, I'm going to look up our podcast on Spotify to make sure we haven't already done this stuff. I don't think it matters.

We certainly have never done Jason Momoa and David Pindex to pulverize the Universal Monsters. There was going to be a sequel to, Freddie versus Jason with Bruce Campbell as Ash. Right. And Campbell described the script as, the proposed script as creatively bankrupt, arguing that the studio would not allow Ash to destroy the other villains, making his character appear ineffective. Yeah, if you're bringing in Ash from the evil dead,

he should be pulverizing, right? Yes. That's what he does. Yeah. I mean, he should be copying his share of his. Yeah, for sure. But yeah, no, you can't have him just be ineffectual against Freddie versus Jason, because they're supernatural monsters.

And he's home into a dream and he's like good. Yeah. He's ready. Yeah. Because he loves weird shit. He doesn't care. Well, I mean, because the only thing they could do is they can have him show up, and then he kills Freddie and Jason in dreams and in lakes or whatever.

Yeah. And then in the next movie, they come back. Yeah. So his movie is pointless. Yeah, but they always come back. Yeah, I know. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Does it?

No. There was actually, people are going to mention this, I'm sure. But there is actually a sequel comic that does feature Ash. So it did end up happening. But yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know about any of that. Anyway, how's the podcast looking? I couldn't find anything.

Okay, good. We did it. We're clear. Thank God. We are halfway through the perfect podcast. Don't even worry about it. Good. We've talked about this at length, but the Alien versus Predator situation started in comics,

became video games, then movies, then it wasn't movies, and now it's movies again. But then some of the people involved in those movies aren't making those movies anymore. Correct, yes. And of course, Disney has acquired Marvel and, of course, the 20th century Fox action catalog. So now, is there, I know there's Avengers versus Aliens. Yeah, it's just quite good. Is there Ravengers versus Predator? Yeah, well, there's like Wolverine versus Predator or whatever.

We read that, didn't we? We did. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I think I liked it a little bit more than you, but this stuff also harkens back. The 90s because it was Dark Horse, I guess, and they were crossing over with everybody. Yes. It wasn't so much Marvel stuff.

It was, it was all DC. All the Predator Balian stuff. Like one of our favorite comics, I think, Mason, is Batman versus Predator. It's going to speak for both of us, right? It's incredible. But it was always Superman versus aliens versus Predator. versus rubber coiff or whatever Mr. Magoo.

Mr. Magoo was there. Yeah. I can't say anything. I can't say anything. I'm off to the DMV to get my driver's license for you. Mr. Magoo. Come on, man. Please be real, Mr. Magoo.

Mr. Magoo. Yeah. What would Mrs. Magoo say? I think she's dead. Don't worry about her language. I think that's why he's out. He's trying to get out there, you know? Yeah, is he?

Yeah. To get roots. Mr. McGoo. That's what they call. Let him live his life. Is that way he's called Mr. McGoo? No, it's the name when he's birth. certificate.

Really? Yeah. I don't know. It feels like a premonition. It's nominative determinism. I don't like this guy. Stay out of it. His name is Mr.

Doing Magoo. They should Jason Mamoa. Should pulverize it. Agreed. You can even one of it. It doesn't have me both. Like they can add one of those guys can handle. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay, but there's Jason Momoa and Dave Batista pulverize Mr. Bean. Or Austin Powers. Yeah. Austin. I think Austin Powers would be because that's not as funny because,

Austin Powers is a spy and he has some abilities. It would be funnier if they just beat up Mr. Bean a man. Yeah, that's true. It's just a skinny man. And you don't want to become, if this franchise is successful, and I cannot imagine it wouldn't be successful, it would be like with Al Parodies. You would be honored to be pulverized by Jason McElton.

Totally. You know what I mean? People would be lining up. Absolutely. You know? They could come into the whatever season of DeGressee they're up to and just beat up some of the kids. Beed up the kid in the wheelchair, obviously, you know? It's fine.

Yeah, you know. Yeah. Chimithy Shalomey would approach as Bob Dylan and be like, hey. Well, I don't know, man. Mr. Mr. Mella and Mr. Batista.

Rolling Stone. And then they fucking. They'd bother us. Yeah. Oh. I love it. I love it also. Yeah, cool.

So the Godzilla Kong franchises, like they crossed over in 1962, which was only the third film for, like, each of them. But I feel like there was such a difference between that era. Yeah. And the modern. era. How did that come about?

I'm sure we may have talked about. Toho required, I looked into this. Toho acquired the rights. So it's a to Rooh production, I believe. Okay. But like, so this wasn't, because nowadays, like a versus, it's like the public are clamoring for it. You know what I mean?

Sure. Whereas back then it would have been just like. I don't know. Yeah. Like most people wouldn't, would people have heard of, like, would people of the West have heard of Godzilla? I think so. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. It might have even been some Western out of the moment. I wonder about that. I'm sure there'd be people in the know who probably do Godzilla and King Kong videos and podcasts and stuff. I wonder if like the fans from the West were like, we got to team these guys up. You've got to make this happen kind of thing. I think it was just like just two big things.

Well, that's the thing. People who would be like want to see two big things. Yeah. Jason and Moe and David Battista. But now it's like it has to be a hollow worth and you have to use proper computer graphics or whatever. You know what I'm going to do it for real. I'm disgusted. I know it is disgusting.

Using proper computer graphics. Yuck and no good. Yeah. But yeah, that's obviously playing all. when they rebooted all that in 2013, 2014. Yeah, Godzilla reboot. With a series of incredible action spectaculars that I cannot tell apart for the life for me. I know, it does get to that point, doesn't it?

Yeah. Yeah. But that's okay. The last one was... The New Order. So it was, it was an evil Godzilla and an evil Kekong. He had a brace. Yeah.

He had the infinity gone. I know because there's a toy of that sitting upstairs in my house. Interesting. That I bought just for me. That's, okay. Do you want to touch it? No. You're not allowed to.

I didn't want to. You're not allowed to. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if I don't even think about it. I could if I wanted to, but I don't want to. Now, I just want to mention these because I don't think they count. Okay. But, you know, you can throw that out there.

Let me ask you this, though. Or they do count. Yeah. In terms of these crossovers, which of these are you sick of? So far. I would like more horror crossovers. It's kind of something they stopped in movies. Yeah.

So I'd do some Freddy versus Jason versus Ash or whatever. Do you want, I don't know, I want to see another invisible. Man movie. Yeah. That Lee Wunel one. Totally. But do you, what do we have to put those? To bring them together.

Bring them together, you know what I mean? I don't know. I don't think they're doing that. No, they, I mean. He did a Wolfman and then. Yeah. Not as good. Yeah.

Not as good. No, it wasn't. No. So, yeah, I think. Because the, you know, the invisible man mom was a spoiler for a movie that's very, very old at this point. Yeah. It's a trillion years old at this point.

You know, he's a psychopath with an invisibility suit. Yeah. So like, do you advance the tech, Do you do a Frankenstein, but it's modern tech, or do you bring in the freaky one from the A-10-100s or not. Well, there is, they're doing, I don't know if you just probably saw the trailer for Lady Frankenstein. The bride, I did, yeah.

I didn't actually watch that trailer properly. It looks pretty fun. It's like a Bonnie and Clyde kind of. It is Bonnie and Clyde, yeah. Yeah, kind of situation. It looks interesting, maybe. Yes. And it's directed by Maggie Gillenhall as well, I believe, yeah.

That's true. That's fun and good. Anyway, she would know from, because she's worked with Christian Bar before in the movies. That's true, Dark. In the movies. In the movies. Dark nights.

In the movies. Yeah, in the movies. So, do these count? So, like, there's, like, Marvel crossovers and Batman crossovers as in, like, Civil War and, like, Batman v Superman, right? But they're characters that exist with the same comic universe. Correct. Yes. But then you got something like a Spider-Man, No Way Home, or a Doctor Strange, too, or even a narrow verse.

Yes. Were you bringing in different dimensions of all characters from different franchises together? Yes. Does that count as a crossover? Yes. A legit crossover though. Okay, right. They're just like Arrowverse where the Flash exists and this exists and that exists.

I mean, we're right in the pocket of that. This is what the people want now. We know this because Deadpool and Wolverine made a billion dollars. They told us. They told us. Yeah, exactly. Is it though? What do you mean?

Like, does it have to be, it's only some characters, right? Because like, I feel like a lot of people don't care if like Blue Beetle meets Booster Gold or something like that. That's true. What is the formula here? Is the formula established ideationation? characters, people who played them in the 2000s, meeting modern versions or whatever. Is that the formula? You know, it's just hit me, James, that you've, you've hit on this that, like, the formula is trickier than you'd think.

Otherwise, would they be doing it every year? They just get every also ran that was on a C.A.W. Show and just mash them together and go, you like this, don't you? Exactly. So. It has to be something we've seen before. It has to be something we've seen before. Yeah. It has to have, I mean, I mean, what I would say is that Dave, all the, but all the stuff, all the guys, Not even though. Everybody in dead, all the, all the cameos in Deadpool and Wolverine were either big box office drawers.

Yeah. Or. Fun real gangs. Yeah, but we're also in that era. Yes, that's true. That 2000s. So the, you know, Electra and Blade. Blade.

I mean, that was a big hit. Yeah. Some of them were big hits and some you just went to because you saw the other big hit. Absolutely. So, yeah. It's interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting and something we're talking about it.

Yeah. Do you want to see another one? Like a crossover like that? Another Deadpool and Wolverine. I mean, we are going to get that. We're going to get it. It doesn't matter. And then there'll be secret wars and doomsday.

Like, they're all going to be that. It's just going to be like the X-Men fighting the Tobre McGuire, Spider-Man, or whatever it's supposed to be. You know, that's what it's going to be. They're going to be a corner and beat him up. Yep. Good. Good. Good.

I mean, I know I said Batman be Superman, but like, again, same universe or whatever, because they're both DC characters. But that was like a big... Now that wouldn't be a big deal 10 years on. But we'd never seen that. That's true. And it was like,

it was a huge deal. But it still would be a huge deal. The next Batman... You don't think that like because of the crossovers we've had since there's been like... No. The wind knocked out of it a little bit.

I don't think so. I think Superman and Batman teaming up again is going to be another big hit. Yeah. Yeah, I think we'll be. We think we're over it because we've seen... I don't think I'm not over it. I just don't...

But I think people... I want a better version of that movie. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying people will come out in droves, I hope, because they're holding out hope that the next one will be really good and it will be an actual team up for once. Okay, yeah, fair enough. Or at least that's, I mean, you know.

Maybe. Or it's a Bay-I video of them shooting eye lasers at each other. That's fun too. That is fun, isn't it? Yeah. Now, I've got eye lasers, Superman. What did you get those? I got them.

Magic. Down the shops. Magic. Pizum. Bejum. I wrote Star Trek Generations. Okay. But it's really just Star Trek.

Yes. Because, I mean, you could look at, there is also crossover comics. There's like an X-Men Star Trek crossover comics in the 90s or whatever. But the shows of always, oh, look, it's McCoy. Oh, look, it's Picardy's beaten whoever or whatever. The extent. What's he doing? He's doing whatever or whatever.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. Like even you're talking about that new series that you watched or whatever. Robert Piccato is back. Yeah. And, you know, it's like. And there's some little Easter eggs.

Sure. I don't want to spoil, but there was an episode a couple of weeks back. Just boil it. It's, um, so Avery Brooks, who played Cisco in DS9, he's never come back. The thong song? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why hasn't he? He just doesn't want to.

Yeah, but he does come back. He doesn't come back. But the, uh, uh, Jake Sisko comes back. Who's Jake Sisko? That's a son. Yeah. Cyrac Lofton is the actor. He came back and they somehow, so after, this is actually interesting because in next week,

I think I'm going to be on an episode of Mission X X for Rengue. He would love going on that show, Mason. Stop doing it. But they're covering DS9 episodes related to the Ferengi. Yeah. And so we talked about this quite extensively. But Avery Brooks, who played Cisco, Thong Song, in DS9, he liked working on the show and he liked, you know, interacting with the fans. You know, people, you know, liked his portrayal and, you know, it was important, you know, representation and stuff like that.

But he did it and he did it and he took the money and then, like, more than a decade ago, he's basically like, I don't want to interact with anybody anymore. Because he does other stuff. He's also 77. He's 77, exactly. But he's like, and he's a professor at Rutgers, I think, as well. And he does. He was really good to marry his kids.

And he does poetry and he does, you know, theater and he does music and he does all sorts of other stuff. And I think he's just like, I use the money so I could pursue my other passions. Yeah. I don't need to do Star Trek anymore kind of thing. But there is, they, what happened is Tony Newsom, who is one of the executive producers on Starfleet Academy. Yeah. She got a piece of his spoken word stuff and put it in, got it, like she got in contact with him, which is quite difficult to do.

Yeah. And like negotiated a piece of his spoken word to be in the show. So it's like a... Is it a re-recording or is it stuff that he'd already... It's stuff he'd already done. Yeah. Yeah. So, but there's like a tribute to that character in the show.

Okay. And his son is in it. Yes. And the show is in it. As himself? As Jake Sisko. How is he alive? He's not.

It's a hollogram. It's a hologram. Well, I love holograms. You need it. Where were we going with this? No, just Star Trek. Just a constant, like, weaving of, and there is that always that path, not always, but there's a passing of the torch off and, like, generations of the passing of the original crew onto

the Enterprise crew. William Chan was like, I'd rather still be the captain, but I guess I'm not allowed to anymore. So I'll reluctantly pass the torch to you, but there will also be those books where I'm still alive. Yeah, because I got out from under that bridge that fell on me. That's exactly right. And I got put in a new sexy body. Did he?

I'm pretty sure he did. because I have read those books. And he wrote them himself. Yeah, because he's a published author. He wrote Tech War. I want to write... And then he starts in the show Tech War. I want to write...

Talks about myself where I get a sexy body. And then you can do it with AI. But I'm pretty sure because they pull him out from the rocks or whatever in that pocket dimension or something and then they set him up as like a super spy or something. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure they put him in a new sexy body.

They also put Picard in a new sexy body. And by that I mean the same body. But a robot. But they're like, this a lot. the same red as your regular body or whatever. Very convenient. Yeah, very convenient. Oh man, your list is so long, James.

Not that long, relax. Alex G, I wrote. Yes. And I think that's from like the Louis-Somerg. I mean, that's poison now. They'll never do another one of those. No, it's not only that, but I think it's an interesting idea of where you're taking expired IP.

That's right. And because you can, because they're copyright and then mixing it together. I mean, there's, on the one level, it's like. Is there a TV show about that or something? Penny Dreadful? Yeah, Penny Dreadful. No, isn't there an AlexG TV show, though? Or they're going to be or something?

I'm down. Penny Dreadful did it. It's fine. It's fine. I like Penny Dreadful. People are good at that. I know you do, you love it.

Yeah. But because on the one hand, in theory, that's what Hollywood wants because it's free. It's free characters that were at one point popular. They don't understand

because every now and then there was Fox talked about doing one and whatever. It's not anymore. But yeah, they don't understand that people don't care. It's about the execution.

Totally. With something like League of Extraordinary gentlemen, you have to get over the hump of these are characters you probably don't care about. Now, but if you care to read it, it's quite interesting. Yes. But if you're going to put him in a generic action, whatever, no, man. Good luck to you. Yeah. Yeah, okay, I just thought I'd bring that up.

Because remember Sherlock met Batman once. Remember that? Of course I did, yes. And he survived because he ate a lot of honey. I remember. Preserved him like a mummy, I guess. It's true. So true.

And then Jason Maura and Dave Battista beat him to death. That's right. Yeah. These are put together. Yes. Pixels and Ready Player 1. Okay. It's that same idea.

Yes. Popular IP. One's more video games, obviously. But just like, what if, it's a mashup t-shirt. Yeah. It's like the execution is like, it's like blunt force trauma. Absolutely. Like the way that presents it to you.

I think Ready Player 1 is a better movie than Alex. Yeah, probably I haven't read it. Yeah, and also than pixels. I've never read it, but again, people who I trust have read it and are like, this is awful. And, you know, the fact that it took one of the greatest directors of all time

to make it a passable story is pretty incredible. Yeah, that really says something. What if the Iron Giant did fight the DeLorean? Or the Mandalorian. Oh, the Mandalorian and the DeLorean. Just check if that's a T-shirt. Oh, it's 500 T-shirts. I think Ready Player 1 was also

maybe a breaking point of like, this is too many things. Right. Uh-huh. Am I, do you know what I'm saying? We're like, it definitely is a saturation point of like crossover's an IP and T-shirts and Doctor Who meeting. Another Doctor Who. Another Doctor Who. Or whatever.

Doctor Who's not in Ready Player 1, I'm pretty sure. No, I know he's not. But do you know what I mean? Like it was... In fact, he's suspiciously absent. Yeah, Doctor Who right, like meeting Martin would fly or whatever in a T-shirt. I think that was a point where it's, because it's so much, it's just like, who cares. And I think Space Jam 2 is another example of that.

Yes. Like, why is generic Beatles? who was watching this cartoon basketball game or whatever, you know? Trocious. Exactly. Did that get a cinema release? It was that direct to... Yeah, it did.

I mean, it was in that era, but it did. That might have been also been in that era where everything... HBO Max also got the dual release. But then you've got like, Who Frame Roger Rabbit? Yeah. Which is a similar-ish idea. It's the same. Same as Chippendale...

I'll say it's the same as SpaceChamp Team Team. Sure. Same as Chippendale Rescue Rangers, not as well done. But you... just like the eye like that who very much a rabbit it's not just bringing stuff together yes like that's the that's an ingredient of that movie absolutely it's not the point of the movie it's a it's a miracle that movie yeah came into a being you know absolutely if people haven't seen it you should and maybe you won't be that impressed have you shown your kids that movie i haven't

actually maybe you should i might not show my my youngest because there's some stuff in that christopher lloyd yeah spooky stuff and then melts a shoe and goo or whatever melts a shoe and Yeah, exactly. So, you know, but I will. Rugrats go wild. There you go. What do you think of that? What?

It was Rugrats and the wild thornberries coming together. Come on, man. Okay, don't worry about that. How do you feel about parody crosovers? Go on. I'm talking Family Guy Star Wars. I'm talking Simpsons X-Files. Yes.

That felt like a big deal, right? Yeah, of course. But now it's just like, oh, what if Maggie was Loki or whatever? Do you know what I mean? It's always being advertised on Disney Plus. Well, that's interesting because the Simpsons, X-Files crossover, they were both Fox properties. Yeah.

So I guess it was a, it was corporate synergy to some degree. Yeah. But it's like it was also a fun little? Was it a creative choice first? It must have been, right? I imagine so. But I mean, yeah, whenever it's Maggie's Loki or whatever, yeah, it's just because they're like, hey, we own, we own both of these things and we could, it'll be a little fun crossover

and there'll be a new season of something coming out. Yeah. And I guess any people who are still watching. The Simpsons will watch literally anything. And often those things are like five-minute shorts. Right. Also, my kids love that kind of stuff. They love that.

Like, what if Bart Simpson was Luke Skywalker or whatever they're doing? I don't know. I don't know what they're doing, man. I think you know exactly what they're doing. Yeah, true. But do you remember the family guys... Use the force, man. Eat my... Use the force man.

Yeah. But do you remember the family guy Star Wars? Eat my force. There we go. We've done it. That's a T-shirt. It is. Eat my short.

Eat my force. The Wicker planet. And we're both Luke Skywalker and Bart Simpson. But it's also us. Yes, that's right. Family Guy Star Wars was like, that was a huge deal. Yeah. Because there were individual episodes based on the original trilogy.

And you've got some pretty funny moments or some even some like, that's a good observation about Star Wars or whatever. It's like rank calls or whatever. You know, they were pretty solid. Whereas now I think that would come and go or they wouldn't do it because family guys too rude or whatever. I don't know. I don't know, man. Ninja sells as Power Rangers. Do you ever see that?

They crossed him in the 90s. They've also been in comics together, but yeah. This is a big deal. What about this? Go on video games. It feels like you're trying to sell me on all of these. I'm selling you this, Mesa. Okay.

Let me just throw this out there. You tell me whether you want to buy this, which you do. This is an opportunity for you. For both of us. To buy in? Yep. Great. Ground floor.

And I get some sort of return on this? Yeah, definitely. Like monetary? Compensation. Oh. Go ahead then. I'm listening. Like the idea as a kid that Sonic and Mario would ever be at anything together

Was lunacy They're mortal enemies They were mortal enemies on different consoles And different continents I remember this distinctly as a kid Because you know there to play around discussions about what are better games The Mario games are But

That was your argument in the playground No I was more Sonic But I was like it's now obvious that Mario plays better You've grown as a person I think so I like to think I've learned something Over my 17 years Of doing this podcast

How long have we been What are we doing? It doesn't matter. Listen. So, do you remember the Nintendo magazine system? Yes. So I remember somebody wrote in and they drew a picture of Sonic. Yes.

But he was, he was holding a Nintendo shirt and he was holding a Game Boy. Damn. And it said like, oh, that's better. I feel better or whatever. And like a kid had clearly drawn this. Yeah. And the letter back was just Nintendo magazine system just fucking rinsing this kid for having this idea. It's so unnecessary.

made. Wow. Oh, so this was the editors of the magazine. Yeah, exactly. Wouldn't they be like, hey, this is a good idea that even Sonic loves Nintendo? Wouldn't that be like?

No, no, like, this sucks and you're an idiot. That was back in the era and they would never do this now. Just like, just a license to be mean because you worked in a magazine. You were the top of the heap. I remember Wizard magazine

used to do a thing where they would just rinse cosplayers. There'd be a photo of the Flash. You know, a guy dresses the Flash. You'd be slightly overweight. And they'd send it in to be like, this is my cosplay. Yeah, they'd be like, yeah, look like he's... Maybe she'd run to a bloody... Maybe he's travelling at light speed to the pizza shop or whatever.

Come on, man. Yeah, right? Fuck. Anyway, Sonic and Mario, they're just at the Olympic Games together and whatever, because Seeger collapsed in all itself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the most part, yeah. I mean, Mario did attack Sonic's legs with a tie-iron.

He did, that's true. Shattering those famous. Good. Robocop Terminated. We talk about this a lot. And Blade Runner or whatever else. Is that mixed? No, what were the comics?

It's Robicob Terminator aliens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you know Peter Well as the voice of Batman? Yeah, and the Dark Night Returns. Yes, I did know that. He's a good, the voice of the Batman, I think, yeah. In the 90s, when we saw DC, I was in the 80s, also when DC and Marvel came together.

Is that also the 80s? Amalgam 90s? But there was earlier ones, like Superman, Spider-Man and Spider-Man and whatever. Yeah, yeah. And then there was Amalgam and they're fighting each other. Superman, Muhammad Ali, famous Marvel character. Exactly. Superman versus Daredevil versus Batman versus Muhammad Ali.

That's right. Um versus Mr. Bean. Yeah. Ali slash Bean. Because they're doing that again, it seems. Like there's a Batman Deadpool comic at the moment, which I read and probably won't. I read one.

They were like, they pitched a, it was a nightwing somebody else crossover. And it wasn't in the comic. They were like, oh, this is actually next month or whatever. Oh, okay. So I was livid. When you were a kid? No, this was recently. Oh, okay.

Who was the, but you don't remember who? I can't remember. It was a Nightwing somebody cross over. The Rangling somebody. There's a Marvel lady. She's like, you don't have superpowers? This is crazy. Did you do that flip?

What did you do with that? I'm just good at flips. I just did it. Yeah. Is this, do you think this is like the 90s was the time to do this right? Because there was that comic book boom. No time like the present brother. True.

But like there was that comic book boom and it was a big deal if Wolverine merged with Batman or whatever. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Whereas I don't think those things, people just go cash grab now. Of course they do. And it has to be. And then it has to be. If there's a good one, people would be like, no, that was actually good in hindsight.

But normally, in the lead up, people are like desperate, sad, weak. It's Nightwing and the next 23 Wolverine. Okay. That's a team up. That's a good team up, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. What are they building towards in Marvel DC comics anyway?

Is there a big event or is it just put you two together? No, it's just corporate synergy, man. Great man. I love corporate synergy. Yeah, yeah. Well, speaking of, did you ever read the Transformers Marvel book? I remember Spider-Man. was in one of the early Transformers issues.

Was it really? I don't know what you're talking about here. This is an actual crossover event. I did, it's a, they've compiled it. I brought off my son. It's just not very good. And I think a big part of it is like, I reckon like 10, 15 years ago.

Okay. There's a, there's like, and the way the Transformers would talk to the Marvel characters is they project a hologram of a person and that's how they would interact. So there was that element, which was kind of weird. Because Spider-Man appears. very early in one of like the first Transformers

limited series and it's black suit Spider-Man. Oh. Simbiard Spider-Man. I'm Black-Suit Spider-Man. That's what he said. I said he said on Black-Soo Spider-Man. He's drunk also. Is he?

Yeah. Dude, Spider-Man, don't do that. But anyway, I don't recommend Transformers Marvel. It could have been done way better. And they're like, wow, this Quintet smells weird at the end and like, oh, it's a Decepticon or whatever. Because Wolverine was like... It's full of Decepticon farce?

I don't know, man. I don't understand how Wolverine's powers work, how a Decepticons work. I don't know anything about anything. I've been lying this whole time. Decepticons, do deceptifies. Archie, whomever. This is one of yours. Is it?

So we're getting to the back end of this. You know, it's him predator, it's him. He's always doing something, isn't he? Yeah. You just look at me like, you're recommending these, though. You recommended these. I learned today, so my sister sells, like, vintage,

like, dresses and stuff on Etsy. Does she? And she sold a couple of stuff. She sold some stuff to the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. She sold something to Riverdale. What? Yeah. And I'm like, did you see him on the screen?

She's like, no. I haven't had time. I didn't watch it. No. Is that what she does for like... Sometimes. Is this something you want to promote here? Nah.

Well, I hope people can find it. Yeah, that's right. That's not her full-time job, though, was it? Just like a side thing. Yeah, yeah. She's an like vintage collector, but yeah. Well, I didn't know that. She sold a purple dress to Riverdale and I'm like, probably for Veronica.

Probably, yeah. Because there's the season when they go back to the 1950s. Oh, yeah. I remember that. I didn't watch it though, but that's really good. Anyway, should we leave it there? Back to Future Transformers. There you go.

That was something, wasn't it? Ghostbusters Transformers. What if the Ecto 1 turned into a robot or whatever? What if the DC Power Rangers, whatever? What if King Kong bought Superman? That's happening too at the moment, you know? This is just you having a nervous breakdown. No, this is true.

A middle-aged nervous breakdown going, what if the Sephard Cods had a DC-themed party and they all dressed up as Batman? Yeah, man. Okay, man. What if they did, though? Did you read, did you read, I feel like you would have read the Ghostbusters Transformers Crosser? No, I didn't.

Really? Yeah. That feels like that was like written for you and you ignored it. I ignored it, yeah, that's right. Well, I'm going to recommend that to you. Okay. Ask me if I've read it. Have you?

No. There was also a Terminator Transformers Crosser. Oh, right. I didn't mind that one. It's set during or just after or around just before Terminator 1. Yeah, absolutely. Because it's got Sericona as, it's got Sericone. It's got Sarah Conner as.

as waitress Sarah Kahn. Yes, that's right, exactly. Wow, this is great. All in all crossover is good? No. All right, no. Deferatively no. Waste of time.

Stop doing it. Presented like this? Absolutely not. Don't do it. I would say never have any characters of any kind interact with any other characters. I think based on this, I think any character in a show

should never leave their room. Yeah. She just just monologue. I don't know. I just think it's really funny that like as kids it was like it was the ultimate, the idea that somebody would meet somebody. Yeah.

And we've had so much. of that since and now we're just like, nah, stop doing it. Is it because so much of it is just them fighting each other? I think it, yes. I think it is. What I am utterly just exhausted by is just the idea that anytime superheroes

meet they have to fight or maybe the entire it's the Batman v Superman thing. It's like this story shouldn't be contingent on them just having just fighting. The lead up to the thing is... I'm looking at this list and it's mostly fighting. The lead up to the the finale should be the lead up to them fighting.

Yeah. It should be them teaming up. And it's crazy. And so, like, yeah, remember when the cast of Matt About You fought the cast of Seinfeld? Yes.

But yeah, I know what you mean, yeah. But also Ross was on Matt about you. He was, wasn't he? And so was Phoebe or whatever, a sister or something. Maybe.

Yeah, man, that's good stuff. God. Wait, no, Ross was on the single guy. Was he? Yeah. Good.

He was not, he wasn't a mad about you. I apologize. Dude, I'm sorry. I apologize to all the mad about you, out there who are big fans of that and probably the reboot that may or may not have happened or a match up. Yeah, I agree. All right, let's go to the next segment. Okay. What is that?

It's what we read in. What? What we're going to read? Okay. All right. All right. I'm doing nothing. We both weathering heights. We were weathering up those heights. Good. Yep. What do you think? That's pretty good. I liked it. I didn't mind it. Now here's the thing. So I've never read the original Wuthering Heights by one of the Bronty's. Oh yeah. Which one? I can't remember.

Probably Emily Bronte. No, the Brontysaurus. Good night, everyone. Thank you, everyone. See you tomorrow. Come back tomorrow? Nah. So I've never read the book.

I've never seen any of the other adaptations. Sure. There's a bunch of them. There's like 15 or something on movies and TVs and etc. I've also never seen an Emerald Fennell movie prior to this. Really? So I've got no baggage attached to this. Because I know some people are like, well, they've changed.

changed everything. They'd streamlined it. They took all the... Too many eggs. Too many eggs. They took... So many eggs being fingered. Too much jelly being fingered.

There was too much egg stuff in this. There was a lot of egg related stuff. More even so than Duncan and Eggman. Potentially, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I hadn't read or seen any of the adaptations. I don't really know the story, but I have seen Emerald Fennell's other movies, which I really enjoyed.

Interesting. Yeah. I get the sense I wouldn't like them. No, you would. Interesting. I think, especially promising our woman, which is incredible. Yeah.

You say so. Maybe I'll watch it this week. I don't care. All right then. Thanks, everyone. Good night. See you tomorrow. Are we coming back tomorrow?

Are we going to go tomorrow? But we're going to see everyone tomorrow. Now let me say, let me tell you this, James. Yeah. I thought it was pretty good. Yeah. I think also this is a movie that's not even for us. Sure.

But I... But I don't know, though. I mean, it's not built, it's not made for us in mind. Oh, I see. Which is what I also... Men. Men. But I also think that that's...

or a certain type of man, I guess, I don't know. But I think that's what also that I liked about it, that like, this isn't something that, you know, this isn't what we do. You know what I mean? Like this kind of movie. Sure, sure, sure. I just enjoyed seeing something like that as well.

Okay, because he's the critical response. I remember I read some of the afterwards, I read some of the critical response that he's on Wikipedia. And David Sims of the Atlantic called Wuthering Heights a heaving a rip, snortingly carnal good time. I didn't think that at all. It was a bad time. That's why I thought it was a bad time.

It was a... It was so grim. That's the thing. It was really grim. Hang on. Peter Bradshaw of the Guardian described... These are somewhat reputable news organizations. Peter Bradshaw of the Guardian described the film as an emotionally hollow bodice-ripping

misfire. I didn't feel like it was bodice-ripping either, right? No. These are all men also. Miklasala of the San Francisco Chronicle concluded. Fennell boxes herself in by giving Kathy and Heathcliff an intense sex life. She gets them ready for the next step, but they can't be one because this is Wuthering Heights, I guess. But like, Barry Hertz.

The cars. Yeah, of the Globe and Mail and Hertz Cars stated that no amount of meticulously composed shots trained on Aspick-intumed prawns or freakishly large glazed strawberries can distract from the gaping holes in absolutely everything on the screen, including its frequently drenched stars. I feel like I watched a completely different movie. They were frequently drenched. They were quite drenched. That is not inaccurate. hear it. I just thought

it was a pretty, you know, a fairly, you know, simple story that was told pretty well. There's like pretty much two locations for the whole thing. Very, very, you know, very interesting visuals. I thought the main cast were good. There was like a real meanness to it. Yeah. And the way that the interactions between the leads

who both loved and hated each other like ruined everybody, including themselves and their lives around them. So my understanding is there's in a lot of adaptations they take this out, but in the book there's like, it's more about Heathcliff getting revenge. There's more revenge to it. So if people haven't read or seen of it, it's set in the Bolden Times, the 1700s. And there's a, there's a sort of a rundown... Doc Martin. It's Doc Martin. It's Mr. Martin Clunes. Is that his name? I don't remember his name. His name is Martin Clunes. There you go. So Martin Clunes was Doc Martin.

Yeah, I think so. I don't know that for a... paradoxical. No, it's not. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. No, it's not. He was Doc Martin until 2022. That's right.

Well, anyway, Margot Robin plays Catherine, who's a young woman who lives in a kind of dilapidated estate with her father. Yeah. And paid by Doc Martin, Martin Clunes. I'm Doc Martin. And anyway, he, in a sort of a drunken,

during a drunken argument, he adopts another boy. Yes, and it's the boy from... Adolescence. Inself show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who grows up to be Jacob Allorty. Yeah.

And then Kathy and Heathcliff, they grow up together. And then there's a misunderstanding and he leaves. Yeah. And then he comes back no longer a ruffian. Years later, he comes back no longer a ruffian. But a toughian. Yeah. But a gentlemanly toughian.

Yeah. And he's like, oh, he's rich and whatever. Yeah, yeah. I also got the sense that maybe he wasn't. Maybe he just got enough to buy that house and just kind of stewed it. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I don't know. Because they don't really expand on what he did.

No, they never do. I'm sure it is in the books. No, it's not. What? But there are subsequent books that have been made in like in the last few decades where various authors have sort of guessed what he's up to or like they made their own. Based on his earrings? Yeah, based on his earrings. And it's not like pirate stuff.

Yeah, sure. Yeah, it's pretty good. And also he's normally not, it's not like specifically said, but he's supposed to not be a white guy, I think, as well. Goes back and forth. Yeah, depending on the cast. I don't know. I thought the cast were good.

Clem Fandango's in it. He is, Chazard Lateef. Yeah. Who's great. But they had to, they really had to trim down his charisma. Oh, big time. He's like the coolest guy in the world. I feel like, make him a real goober.

I reckon they'll like put on a bit of weight as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he's. Because yeah, for people. For a certain demographic, because he's in spooks and his other stuff. But like a certain demographic know him as Clem Fandango, Stephen Toast sound engineer. Yeah, fucking look at this guy. Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah.

Yeah. But they gave him like his weird muscle. stash and mutton chops and whatever. There is no moment in it where Mugger Robby's like, you know, yes, I can hear you Edgar Linton. Sorry, can you hear me, Catherine. Yes, I can hear you, Edward Lendon. Yeah, Hong Chow's really good.

And it's Nelly, the maid. Yeah, yeah. It's very interesting. Like, I thought the visuals were very interesting. Like there's, you know, if you like looking at weird rooms. Absolutely. There's a moment in it. Again, it's a classic.

It's difficult to spoil because most people sort of, if you don't know the plot, you sort of know the vibe of it. But there's a moment with set in the kind of dilapidated estate. There's a scene filled with bottles. Yes. And it looks like the most depressing far side cartoon I've ever seen. Absolutely, it does. It also looked, yeah, it looks meticulously placed bottles.

Yeah. This drug. Anyway, I thought, I thought, you know, Margot Robbie and Jacob Allorty were, you know, very, very good together. I like the tragedy of it. Like I read like just the... But it wasn't a sexy good time. I don't think so. I mean, there's sex in it, but it's not like...

I mean, for me, the way that it was talked about that it was going to be this like boundary pushing like... But is that and the thing... So again, because... And I don't think it really is. Because I don't know anything about Emerald Fennell's work... I would say salt burn is definitely more. But it's like...

Because someone fucks a grave in that. Oh yeah. If she's anything like... If she's all about like boundary pushing and like subverting people's expectations or whatever, I guess that. that's what you do. If you take this thing that a lot of people think is like sexy

and you make it just tragic and not sexy. If you really, if you go, you know what, I'm turning the tragedy dial up to 11, whereas normally it's at like a 5. And it's raining. And it's raining all the time.

Everybody's wet. Yeah. But also I guess with, with kind of like saltburn, for example, you can take that in any direction. But even though this is an adaptation, it's called Wuthering Heights in quotation marks

because it's her, like, How are you saying this again, James? Wuthering hearts. You are saying Wuthering Heights. Wuthering Heights. All right.

Wuthering Heights. It's Wuthering Heights. What are you doing? You're thinking of Wethers, originals. You're thinking of Wothers originals. Is that it's her memory of reading it. Yeah. It's her kind of the, the feelings that it invoked on her in the first time and presenting that to the audience.

Yeah. And but also, you're still bound by the narrative. The worthering of it. The worthing of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it looks like it's going to do okay. I guess it drops off a cliff.

I also understand the complaints of like, Margo Robbies, like 35, 36 and, you know. How was Jacob Allorty? I don't know, 28, but she's supposed to be like 19 or whatever. But I don't really think ultimately matters because they never say specifically that she's 19 or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought the young cast was really good.

Also, I mean, you know, if you're going to complain about anything, you'd say, okay, she's a peasant, more or less in Regency England, but she's also a 200 out of 10. So it's like, that's the most unrealistic part of, For sure, man. It's not the age part, I don't think. Yeah. I don't think she'd have any trouble finding a husband.

No, I wouldn't say so. I don't know. Maybe the way that she looks is just not a good standard for them. Maybe. People like... Too thin. Too thin, maybe. I don't know.

Yeah. Starts out more, um... The rudest part is right at the start. Absolutely, it is. And then it's just not, then it's just pretty normal after that. There's some sex stuff and whatever. Yeah. Maybe like a bit of light, like bondage or whatever, but...

Also, um... Eggs, obviously. Who's good in this? Alison Oliver is Isabella who's... Yeah, she's amazing. Linton's Ward, who is that really sort of pitch-perfect woman who's gone insane because there's nothing to do in this world.

Absolutely. Like she's got money, but she's like making dolls out of people's hair and stuff like that. I thought she was great. Also, that's Josh O'Connor's partner in real life. Oh, I didn't know that. So two weirdos, being weirdos together. Two weird English weirdos.

That's right. Yeah, her storyline was very interesting, I thought. But yeah, I also think, what was interesting about the lead characters is they're so selfish. And it's just the undoing. And stupid. And it's just the undoing of like everybody. Everybody's fucking miserable because of these two people circle on each other.

Like lunatics. That's exactly right. For decades. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it could have, it's not quite a movie that could have been solved with a poster note, but it's pretty close. There's a few moments. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It could have been solved with a telephone. Yes. The telephone existed. Or if any, or you know what it is. Because, and again, this is probably in the book, and probably in every other adaptation,

Heathcliff keeps sending Kathy notes. Like, hey, I'm actually... Hey, I'm sad or whatever. Hey, I'm big. Hey, I'm big and I'm sad, actually. And then he keeps sending him, and the head of the household keeps burning the letters. Yeah.

She already betrayed you. You know she did. Exactly. What are you doing? Just show up. You can see her house. Just go over there. Get on your horse.

Yeah, exactly. Get on your horse. and do a trot over there. To a trot over there, man. Yeah, that's right. I know there's not a horse, big enough for Heathcliff. Big Heathcliff, is I called it. He's on two horses at any given moment.

He is. He absolutely, one foot on each. That's right. Standing up. What I also thought was, not to spoil it completely, because I'm not going to. I think the love story does work. Yeah. And the ultimate outcome was like, oh, that sucks.

Like, even though it's like, these aren't good people. They're fucking awful. Yeah. But ultimately, it's fun to watch. It's fun to watch. And it's also like, they are, products of their environment and their time and their gender and how much money they have and whatever.

So it's not just not us. Not us. We're good. Australians don't have class. We know what we're doing. That's right. Any of us can go to a smorgies. Yep.

And those do know that because they're both from Australia. They're both from Australia. They know that. They're both grove in Melbourne or whatever, didn't they? Or Brisbane. Or Brisbane. We don't care. Yeah.

Okay. Okay. Best movie ever. I think it was best movie ever. I think you should watch your other movies. I think you would like them. I think also. I guess to compare them

the other two are probably better than this. Oh, interesting. But I'd also just watch this. Margot Robbie's from Dalby, Queensland. Okay, yeah, you're right. And he's from Melbourne. He's from Melbourne. He's from Melbourne, no, didn't he?

Well, I guess he did. I'm sure he did. Okay. Two Queenslanders. He emigrated from, he was born in, wait, no, his father was born in Bill Bauer, which is a dictatorship, where it was.

Where's that? Basque country. I don't know. But he was born in Brisbane. Then he relocated in Melbourne. I knew it. While his sister attended the Australian ballet school. Oh, must be nice.

Then he returned to his hometown in Brisbane in 2013 to finish high school. Oh, must be nice. I read her, I watched actors on actors round tape with him. He was one of those guys who had the choice. He was doing rugby and he was also acting. And then he was like very badly injured. Oh, okay. And then he was like, well, I guess it's being a famous actor then.

No, I guess if I have to. If I guess if I have to. I wonder if he, because he got like hit really hard and he caused a spinal injury and he's like, all right. You'd want to know who that guy is and send him a fruit basket every year. Absolutely. Thanks. Thanks, man, for making me a famous actor. Yeah.

Okay, cool. Next segment of the show? Sure, in a minute. You tell me what it is. It's called letters. And it's not called that ironically. It's called that because we play the latest theme and then we do letters. I agree with you, Mason.

And I'll do it right now When you say we Yeah You mean you No I mean you Bang do it Quick Ma ma ma ma ma ma ma

Do I do it No You failed I like to think I didn't I love you Doc Martin started in 2004 It finished in 2022 That's a good run

But I mean It's also a British run Of like six episodes Every two years Seven seasons But there's only nine episodes Or whatever Yeah that's what I'm saying

It's what I'm saying to you. I'm telling you that. I'm telling you that. 79 episodes in total. Apparently 78 of them aren't good. Mason, if you do want to reach the show, it's simple. It's the simple as simple. You simply email the show to weekly planetpod at gmail.com or an even simpler ways to go into the Planet Broadcasting Facebook group and then you sign up for the group and then they let you in the group if you agree to not be a jerk and then every week there's a thread and then you can post in that thread. Also, if you go to big sandwich.com, there's an archa. There's an archa

play-through of us playing the original Star Wars arcade games and then my kids come in the end and have a bad time. That's true actually, yeah. If you are interested. And who wouldn't be? Who wouldn't? Here's an email from John. John?

This is fascinating to me. Boring name. Subject line, very exciting subject line. Okay, well, let's see. But boring name, Mark. Well, he has to make up for his boring name. Doesn't he though. Miller World is still alive with Benson Boone.

Okay. You got me, John. Hello, boys. After you talk of Mark Miller on last week's episode, It's Malar. I thought I'd bring your attention to a trilogy of films produced by Matthew Vaughn in the kick-ass movie universe

that have never been released. The series was called stunt nuts. I do know this. And has a crazy production history worth giving a goose. The third movie was announced in 2024 with Benson Boone and John Sina yet no movies have been released publicly.

Hope this is something you both find interesting. I thought this was a classic fake email. And I'd read the fake email and you'd be like, there's no record of this, this is stupid and you're stupid and that's true. I would do that. But then I did give you.

I call this man's bluff. And it's apparently real. At the very least, there's a Wikipedia page. Serving as the first of a new trilogy. Stunt nuts, all one word. An upcoming action film directed like Damien Walters. Yeah, I'm looking up him right now. Premise.

A group of athletes set out to raise funds so that the gym where they all train can stay open. They use their athletic and gymnastic skills to hire themselves out as stuntmen. And it's called stunt nuts. Yeah. And it's in the kick-ass universe. but why and what and why?

So you know something about this? I know, I remember reading about this. Chris Hemsworth is in it apparently. Chris Hemsworth and Sam Rockwell. Okay. Yeah. Produced by Marv, which is the Matthew Vaughn production company, and Zebo production.

What is, why? I don't know what this is. This is crazy. But is this just a Wikipedia, sometimes it's a Wikipedia page that no one has seen, like no one has seen to correct. Yeah, no, there's like, If you go to the links,

they do, it doesn't do links. Damien Walters is a British stunt performer. Yeah, he also directed the movie. He specialises in tumbling and trampoline. He also directed the movie, Stunt Nuts does fight school. Okay. It's a standalone sequel to Stunt Nuts the movie.

Okay. These fake movies. Are these snuff films being made by Matthew Vaughn that are only being shown at his parties, his Hollywood parties? It seems that way. It's also tonally in between, like the in-betweeners with stunt men.

Okay. That's all good. This feels like the moment for this, whatever this is, the moment for his past. This says it's an upcoming comedy film. It's a standalone sequel to Stunt Nuts the movie, but this one was filmed in 2021. But the previous one wrapped filming in 2024. Okay. So I don't, I don't know, man.

I don't know what this is. This feels like it's never going to get released, whatever this is. Yeah. Right? It feels like it's already lost media. Also, like Matthew Vaughn's last. Mark Millar thing was atrocious. Agile.

Yeah. Was that even Mark Miller, really? It was in the kick-ass universe. I guess. Not kick-ass in the Kingsman universe. Well, I don't think has the Mark Miller stamp of approval because he wouldn't just approve anything. Agreed.

For money. For money. Remember at the end now they're like, yes. Actually, this is a kick-ass. No, not kick-ass. This is a Kingsman book or something. Yeah, that's right.

Or something. Yes. Whatever. Good. That's interesting. Thank you, John. if that's your real boring name. Yeah, you're boring.

And it seems like it is. No, thank you. That's good, actually. Thank you for bringing that back up. This one's from Jimmy Miller, boring name. Agreed. Who says,

if you could change one thing from the original Star Wars trilogy, what would you change? Go for it. Would you CGI? Would you deep fake yourself onto all the characters? Yes, absolutely.

And I can do that for $50 worth of Chad GPT credits. I agree. And I do it every day. So you could do it and you have done it every day. Yes, absolutely. New one every time. It's always different.

It never looks like me. It looks like they're just showing me a link to Star Wars on Disney Plus. Okay. But it, you know, whatever. Makes you happy, though, right? It makes me very happy. Yeah. I know what I would change.

Go ahead. I would change the Princess Leia's sister twist. I think it's stupid and feels shoehorned in the last minute to wrap up a point of being like there's another. Because it's like, we're done with this. Let's wrap it up. Right. Yeah. So they just wouldn't be brother and sister.

Yeah. Okay. Which is fine. And who would, and are you deciding who the other is? No, you do that down the line. Okay. It doesn't even have to be in the 80s. But in your universe, there is another.

Yeah. Another Skywalker? Yeah. Or whoever. They didn't say Skywalker. They just said another. Right. In Empire Strikes back and then they...

Would you, would that mean because in the prequels? Yeah. Amadala has two kids. Yeah. So that's just somebody else. Yeah. I mean, you can have two kids and one of them, we don't know what happens to them. Interesting.

Yeah. I also want to point out, I don't care. Okay. I'm going to say, Grito shoots third. So there's a second shooter Yeah, there's a second shooter And people of, you know Yeah

Conspiratorial thinking Everybody's got a theory as to who it is It's across the sandy knoll That's right And that's where he fired He's blasted rifle from And it was Shannon knoll Was it?

Was it? It would, wouldn't it? Yeah, yeah Yeah Yeah Also everyone does a flip And it has to be Alec Gittus

Okay Yep It's not so much a flip As they throw him Yeah Okay Or could it be they just cut to one of those

like a mannequin in a robe, like one of those really bad, obvious fake mannequins. I think we do too and you put them both in the movie. Absolutely you do, yeah. You're okay with that?

Yeah, what would I change about original Star Wars? Because we've just recently watched all original Star Wars. It's true. I don't know if I'd change a single frame. No?

Ewox, quality of the Return of the Jedi's and stuff. I'd keep that the same quality. Okay. I mean, if I could just say better, sure, I'd make them all better. Just some tweaks.

Just some tweaks to make them better. And some Tweedlex. Oh, yeah. To make them all better. Sexier. That's right. I think you're into that. Expanded role for Boba Fett.

So he just does something. Yeah. I also like the idea of just like, who's this guy? I don't know. Yeah. And that's it. He died. You know what?

A more dignified death for him. Like he does some stuff and then he dies. Goes out in a cool way. Goes out in a cool way. Yeah. Yeah. Like he shoots himself. And then at the end there's a title card and says Boba Fett will never return because he died for good.

But it was cool. Yeah, and then it cuts to really graphic footage of being chewed up inside the sunlight. He's like, ah, and you see his head come on his body. This isn't a thousand years. This is instant. This is instant. You didn't know, but this is instant, very painful.

And you never come. You see his head come to bits, so you know he's never coming back. Yeah, and there's no cloning anymore. That's right. That's right. So I would do it. Cool, okay. What else you got in terms of letters?

Here's an email from Levi. Hello, jents. I'm writing to you to, I'm writing to you to record. Like the jeans! Nice. You're welcome. This surname's 501. Is that relevant?

No. Okay. Hello, jents. I'm writing to you to request just a smidge of your expertise. Easy. Bad start. I'm currently an adjunct professor for my local communication studies program and teach and assist with an upper division storytelling narrative course.

We recently added a graphic novel to our reading list. I've been tasked with giving a lecture covering comic books and graphic novels as a preface to the unit. It includes a brief history of comic books, a set of terminology, and time for students to dive deep into a comic or novel using said history in terms. My questions are, is there anything you would recommend covering in order to give these students a decent understanding of comics? Or is there anything you recommend leaving out entirely? God. Is there a specific comic or novel you would recommend for those who may have never picked one up?

I would not recommend Watchman. No, people always do. But it's too much. And it's too dense. Yeah. What's something simple? But it's a classic. But it's a classic.

Does it have to be a classic? Can it be modern? I think it could be modern. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I,

do I dare say Superman up in the sky the Tom King? Because it's classic. What's interesting about that, I think, is it's a modern comic, but it's like,

it covers a lot of classic bases. Like, you don't need to know anything about Superman, really. You wouldn't do like all-star Superman? Oh, yeah, no,

that could work too. Because that's more kind of like, yeah. Well, I mean, if you were going to do, an Alan Moore one. Yes.

And we are. Would you do like a beef vendetta or something like that as opposed to a watchman? Or what about something like mouse? Where it's like... But see, also what I would... See, I would recommend something that is superheroes. Because that is... Because that's the majority.

Like mouse is important and interesting. So maybe you'd cover it at some point. Batman you won. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because you wouldn't do the Dark Nile returns either. Because again, that's a deconstructuring.

of whatever, whatever. The Batman one is like, it's a classic, it's an origin story, it's a character that everybody knows. It's like perfect and it's like an execution. Also, if you do watchmen, people are going to skim the pirate stuff. They're going to skim the pirate stuff, and then they're going to skim all the journals and all the pros stuff, all the text, you know, the book excerpts and stuff like that.

I think it would also be like an interesting way to do this. But also, like you do a Batman new one, but you find some graphic novels that aren't superhero. Yeah, right. Because I think a lot of people just think, oh they're doorway comic book Oh that's true And they're not

So I think it's important to kind of To have people Because some of the best graphic novels What have we read recently That is good That isn't superhero stuff I've got this a bunch of stuff Next to my bed that I could

What about that James Bond one That Garthena's James Bond one That was a good one yeah And people know James Bond So that's easy They love James Bond I'm crossover Sure

I kill giants That's a good one Okay All right All right What about Beneath the trees When nobody sees

That's exactly what it is Because it's like a thing that people recognize. You're like, oh, it's a Sylvania family world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, it's a murderer. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I think being able... Because that's sort of like mouse.

Yeah. But it's more modern, I think. Yeah. Yeah. And but also mouse is based on like an actual experience. Everybody's just a mouse. It's true. Or a cat. Yes.

Yeah. Cool. Okay. Well, I think we've solved everybody's problem there. There's your syllabus. Just a bunch of comics that we sort of remember. That we sort of remember. That's pretty good.

Did this cover the question? I don't know. Yeah, man. Maybe, I don't know. Kenny Shark Chung, who says... Okay, first of all, great name. Best name thus far. They're great.

Key's written in number four. Like the jeans. Like the jeans. Kenny jeans. Kenny jeans. He says... Kenny James. Plays the flute.

He plays the jeans. I think you'll find. That's right. Do you boys use AI and your personal, professional life or anything? I will sometimes do it to like proofread something. But it's more like an email I'll have to send to a teacher for my kids' schools or whatever. It'll be that. You'll never work in this town again.

Is that okay? chat chip. Yeah, fix this. Make it meaner. Make it more threatening. Yeah, but it will just be like, I don't want to sound like an idiot. Just tell me if there's, and then it'll be like, I've made this, have more of a flow. And I'm like, no, just fix the fucking grammar.

James, you could send it to me and I'll get it back to you in six weeks. At low, low cost? No. Okay. So no. That's pretty much the extent of it. What about you? No, no at all.

Yeah. But I mean, I mean, we're all doing it every day because you forget to be the minus a I think on Google or whatever it is. And it's like, oh, I can't. I can't avoid this now. Yeah, sometimes they'll just put it on to you. But yeah, I have people who use it for work really effectively off a study.

And I have no problem with any of that because if they're going to give you work that a machine can do, then that, you know, that's fine. Yeah, fuck it. That's right. Yeah. Here's one more email gentleman from calling. Oh, you're going.

It's from calling. Hello, Colin. Hey, guys, love the pod. You're very welcome. And this year, Jeff Goldblums the fly has this 40-year anniversary. Oh, shit. Do you think an original monster body horror movie like that could be made and be successful in modern day entertainment? They did.

Wasn't the fly the remake? Yes. But also, it's goia. Yeah, it's guilla. I mean, that's the substance, right? Yeah. So, yes. There's a body horror movie coming out called I saw the trailer called Slanted.

Okay. And it's about a girl in high school who's of Asian descent who takes a procedure that turns her into a white, blonde girl. Okay. And then that kind of goes awry and whatever. So there's, like, there's that. It's the fly, but you turn into a white girl. Oh, yeah. I guess.

I've also seen white chicks, James. Yeah, yeah, true, true, good point. Yeah, I think this could definitely work now, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like movies. I like movies. That wasn't the question. Well, I've turned it into the question. Yeah, cool.

I've got one more as well from Pete Goodman. Go on. Who says, which one is James and which one is Moso? Which one are you? It's not important. Same. Yeah. All right, that's the show.

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Yeah. And film it. Film the whole thing. Film the interaction, posted on YouTube, posted on Twitter. Be like, what's people's opinions on this? Monetize it. Monetize it. Get verified, get that coin.

Totally. Yeah, nice. I think you should do that. I think so too. Folks, thank you for leaving a five-star review on your podcast app of choice. If you do so, James, he'll find it. He'll read it out right here. Got a couple here.

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And frankly, I'm thrilled to the boys that recognize me. We must have talked about something that happened then. They're related to this person specifically. But what was it? I don't remember. To know I have knowing either. No. But we are the best.

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I will. I'll come along too. That's great. That's all we need. Two bros hanging out. That's right. Some plumbing the Death Stars will be there as well. That's right.

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Yep. Barron the doors. Okay, cool, I'm all for all that. All right, thank you so much. Next week, we might do Scream 7. I'm just interested to see how they threw everything out and then change it to this. Yeah, right.

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