The Weekly Planet - 618 The Drama & The Boys Final Season (so far)
Episode Date: April 13, 2026The Boys are back in town. For their fifth and final season, we talk the first two episodes. Plus we review The Drama, the somewhat controversial A24 film starring Zendaya and Robert Pattinson. And of... course there's the news of the week including a shift in direction for Avatar 5 & 6, the surprising ratings for the Disney Plus She-Hulk series, the return of Luke Cage and Iron Fist for Daredevil: Born Again Season 3, an announcement for Extraction 3 and the first trailer for the MCU Special Presentation, The Punisher: One Last Kill. Thanks for listeningNew bonus booque clubbe episode for The Dark Knight Returns out now! Including fully edited video version PLUS entire backcatalogue including ad-free feeds and early access on https://bigsandwich.co/Is James allowed to have parallel thoughts? Vote here: https://forms.gle/jMZh6e55nkdEszPx6PLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start05:05 Avatar Films in Trouble13:38 Metal Gear Solid Movie18:54 Best MCU Disney Show Reveal24:03 Returning Characters in Daredevil S325:58 Extraction 3 Announced28:13 The Punisher: One Last Kill Trailer31:43 The Boys Final Season (so far) Spoiler Review45:26 The Drama Movie Review51:05 The Drama Spoiler Segment01:02:09 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read Cont.01:06:00 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The weekly planet, the weekly planet.
Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the weekly planet.
We're talking movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James Oswald and is Mr. Sunday with Ms. Eisenberg, Mason.
This week, I'll be low energy.
Were you?
Yeah, we'll swap roles.
Why can't I be low energy?
You could both be low energy.
You started out, did you just use all your energy?
That was all my energy.
Oh, then we can both be low energy.
All right.
I mean, all right.
It seems like you've still got a little bit of energy.
Don't be full, Mason.
Okay.
That's a common trick that you've fallen for.
Yes.
The common and normal trick that happens.
Mr. Podcast trickster over there.
Thank you.
Do you know everything's happening all the time?
I did know that.
I'm exhausted.
I'm knackabiding.
That's why I'm so low energy.
Are you?
Yes.
This seems high for you.
Come on, man.
You're putting in some effort for once.
No, I disagree.
I would never do that.
That would betray my principles.
And what I swore to you, I swore an oath.
You did.
I started this podcast.
Yeah.
I said, nah.
I mean, sort of half-heartedly.
Yeah, I said, no, man.
Come on, man.
Your hands were just by your side.
Yeah.
Just loose.
That's right.
And you did the thing where you go to tap the sword on my shoulders and I just fell over.
I was like, typical.
Typical, I said.
It's true.
I guess I'll be on the best podcast, I said.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you make that happen.
You make it the best, Mason.
Thanks, man.
Yeah.
So we're going to talk the first couple episodes of the last season of the boys this week,
aren't we?
That's right.
Or as we call it, Da Boys.
Yep.
But in addition to...
But it's not the last...
It is the last season.
But we're not talking about last seasons of the boys.
And we're talking about the last.
Spoiler, this is the last season of the boys.
There's also vaught spin-offs and genevary.
Prequels and World War II stuff.
If you think this is over, you're an idiot.
Did you think the Walking Dead was over when Rick Grimes exploded out of a helicopter
or whatever happened to him?
You're an idiot.
That's right.
You got his own spin-off show.
I watched the first 10 minutes.
Yeah, it's called Rick Grimes in a bucket.
Bucket of Rick, it's called.
Grimy bucket Rick.
Yeah, that's right.
He's trying to make it all the way across the USA.
He's going to make some friends and they're going to carry him in the bucket.
Yep, that's right.
And then he's going to cross that finish line.
It's weird.
In the first...
It's called The Sloshing Dead, because he's in a bucket.
I did watch the first like 10, 15 minutes and he loses his hand in it like he does in the comics.
Which one is this?
Rick Grimes.
No, I know Rick Grimes.
I don't know.
It's a Walking Dead Rick Grimes-Mishone spin-off.
I was like, I'll dip back in.
So it's not Dead City?
It might be, but I don't remember
And isn't one of them set in France or something?
Yeah, it might be, but whatever.
I don't know which is which, right?
Okay, but he died, is your spot?
No, he didn't die.
But he fell out of helicopter.
He died in the series, but he didn't really die.
He might have fallen out of an exploding helicopter.
I don't remember.
Okay.
But he got his hand chopped off.
Yeah, and it just felt like, oh yeah, we'll catch up to what happened in the thing.
But it also seems like, oh, now that's just an annoying thing that you've got to put in all future episodes and whatever.
He's got to wear that blue glove or whatever all the times.
The long, like a really long wrist.
You know how they're like at the stub.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, you know, make it out why you will.
But we got some news of the week, don't we?
We do it.
I guess, though, if, like...
This guy doesn't even want to hear the news of the week.
If you Rick...
You want to keep riffing. I don't like it.
Ricking, we call it, when it's about Rick Grimes.
Yeah.
If, I guess if you're so good at killing zombies,
like if he's a guy who survived one million regular seasons of regular walking dead,
I guess you give him an advantage, a disadvantage.
A disadvantage rather by chopping his hand off.
Sure, okay, fair enough.
Well, that's what they did in the show.
They're coming a comic or whatever.
Yeah.
Which you may have finished.
Nope.
You hasn't finished it?
Nope.
Has it even read a single issue maybe.
I did because we did a comic club about it.
So I've read the first like six issues.
Oh, it must be nice.
It was nice.
Must be.
It was.
News of the week.
All right.
We've done ricking.
It's news of the week time, that you said.
We call it riffing, but all right.
You bring high energy to derail me, it seems.
We do have some news in the lead up to the boys.
We're going to talk about.
Did Avatar 3 make enough money?
Apparently not.
Not that will mean for the sequel.
We're going to talk about the Metal Gear Solid movie moving forward.
Oh.
We're going to talk about Marvel's surprising.
You won't believe Marvel's surprising best performing show.
One of them may, but you won't believe it.
It's a bit of clickbait, Sheehog.
We're going to talk about the return of certain characters.
Oh, certain characters.
For Dead Devil Born Against Season 3, I'll never tell.
Interesting.
It's Luke Hage and Ironfist.
We're going to talk about a next...
You're not going to believe Chris Hemsworth next.
action movie on Netflix.
What's that going to be?
Extraction 3?
It's Extraction 3.
And then we've got trailers for, you're not going to believe this.
Go on.
No spoilers here.
But it's a one shot for the Punisher.
MCU spin-off.
We've got a trailer for that.
You're not going to believe it.
I'd believe that.
Yeah, okay, fair enough.
Those are all the things you can or can't believe.
Oh, Rob Collings, who edits this.
He does time codes.
It's right.
He puts them right in the description.
If I was going to be high energy for anything, it'd be,
Rob Collings doing a bang-up job, editing this podcast,
putting in those time codes in the description.
And also derailing me.
But also, I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to put any energy in that.
If you were.
If I were.
But you're not.
I won't.
Okay.
No worries.
Let's start here via the rap.
Did you know?
This is the title.
Okay.
Forget the did you know.
Don't worry about that.
Okay.
This is the title of their article.
So they're not doing movie news in the lids of like beer bottles or whatever.
I miss that, Mason.
Oh, yeah.
I don't drink that much beer.
When 1.4 billion isn't enough, Avatar sequel is under the microscope is Disney
Ways, Franchises, future.
Like under the woke.
Thank you.
Thank you though.
Apparently.
Should we do a segment called
Under the wokeoscope?
Yeah, definitely.
And it's going to have an AI thumbnail
and it looks terrible.
Yes.
We're both in it.
We look weird and glossy
and not like us at all.
Yes.
Yes, we can.
And we're breaking through a comic panel
or a brick wall or something.
We're 100% breaking through a comic panel.
Or brick wall.
We can do that, sure, yeah.
Go all right.
Contents to BD.
Doesn't really matter.
Doesn't matter what it is.
But we're putting stuff under the wokeoscope.
We certainly are.
Conversations apparently being held to make the next two Avatar films shorter and cheaper.
James Cameron.
That's just funny inherently.
What's that?
I don't know, just the idea of some of the most expensive and long, the longest and some of the,
just the longest and most expensive movies of all time, just to be like, yeah, whatever.
Could be shorter, could be cheaper.
Could be cheaper, yeah.
Just the whole idea of like just, just dismantle the very concept of them.
The idea that they're long and expensive.
Anyway, carry on.
James Cameron, the architect of the Avatar franchise,
is apparently questioning if the franchise
will continue after the overwhelming financial returns of Avatar Fire and Ash.
That's only because it costs billions and billions of dollars.
It's also pointed out in this article that if you look at the three movies back to back,
it evens out that they've made over $2 billion each.
Interesting.
Which is the last one didn't make as many billions as the previous two.
That's correct.
According to an anonymous Avatar team member,
Cameron would have engaged with another project
before returning to Avatar 4 if Avatar Fire and Ash eclipsed $2 billion.
Now, Cameron is intent on making 4 and 5, which has been...
Do you think this is Sam Worlington?
Yes.
Yeah.
Which has been...
He'll talk to anybody.
Yeah, he'll bail you up at a party.
It happened to me.
It's terrible.
I was looking at you, making eyes, be like, can you come over and introduce yourself?
I was like, no, I want to see how this plays out.
And he was like, good-o-there, James.
Tell you what, tell you what, this Avatar franchise, I was in trouble.
Not my problem.
I got my money on it care.
Did he?
Like, I guess he would have.
Four and five and Sam told me this.
They're apparently radically different from Avatar Fire and Ash,
which was also not very radically different from Avatar Way of Water.
Mate, they're radically diffo, is what he said.
Because he's very Australian.
The rat and diffo.
They're rado and diffo.
Which also two of his mates that he brings with him everywhere.
The comparison is apparently that of original Star Wars to the Empire Strikes Back.
It's that kind of thing.
And so James Cameron apparently has taken this as a personal challenge
to reinvigorate cinemas yet again.
Yeah, it's certainly true that third avatar
didn't light the world on fire
that the first or second one.
Which is ironic because it's the firewall.
That's what I'm saying. It's irony.
No, no, I'm saying that.
You didn't make that connection.
I made that connection.
You can agree with it after the fact.
Can't we both make a connection?
Can we have parallel thought?
Can this be a deep impact Armageddon thought structure situation?
Absolutely not.
I think it can be.
I think that's fine.
Let's leave a poll below.
There it is.
All right.
Great.
it's definitely there.
That's good.
I would love them to be different.
I mean, I liked two and three, but...
I mean, what's the...
They've certainly fought whales at the end or whatever.
Yeah, I mean...
Killed Brendan Gleason twice.
Yeah, some...
Like, some movies of this ilk, I assume,
you've just got a bunch of CGI assets ready to go,
and I guess you could just put them into a new thing.
But I guess the point, like, Avatar, the idea is...
Push technology.
They do it live every time.
We'll do it live.
Exactly.
I'm big Jim.
They've also apparently filmed like 20 or 25% of the fourth or fifth movie already.
Just put that in.
Just put that in.
That's easy.
You're saving money, basically.
But yeah, you're right.
A lot of the technology and assets and that are already there.
They basically have to rebuild everything after the first avatar.
Yeah.
Where's the technological leap though here at this point?
Smellivision?
Yeah, it's Malavision.
You put the 25% on screen.
Yeah.
And then you just cut to Sam Worthington in blue makeup.
It's just regular Sam Worthington.
And he draws back a bow and he lets it go.
And then you cut to the bad guy and it's just whoever, the actor, and it's just, they're in blue
makeup or whatever, or it's the army guy, whatever.
Quorich.
Quorich.
And then he's just hold, you get him to just hold an arrow.
And they, you do a whip pan.
Yeah, yeah, and it goes, dung!
And he goes, ugh!
And then he falls off a cliff again.
Yeah.
And then you go, end.
Question mark.
And then the box office will tell you.
Yeah, if it's two billion, man.
Yeah, yeah, if they make two billy off that.
It is kind of wild that, like, a movie can make $1.4 billion.
And then they're like, I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Based on your previous track record, this is a failure,
because you should have made $3 billion big gym.
It's also not a merchandise machine,
the way that Star Wars or Marvel is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like people aren't snapping up all the different avatar games
of which there are very few.
Exactly, once you've got a few blue guys.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Of different sizes.
When you do that?
When you do that?
You want the blue guy with Oakley's.
That's so true, you do, don't you?
Yeah, man.
Put him in a little tank?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
A little walking machine?
Yeah.
Brendan Gleason.
I'm Brennan Gleason.
One of the flight of the concords.
I'm one of the flight of the concords.
Put him in double pack.
I'm double pack.
Brin and Gleason, one of the one of the flight of the concords?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And you push a button and fly to the concord's guy on his back.
Flip's over.
It's the other guy from the flight of the concord's.
Two heads.
Flip over.
Look on those power ranges.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's good, man.
Yeah.
You're good at merch.
Yeah.
No one would buy that.
And he says a small man's wets wets wetsuit, please.
Yes
Because one of them's the fucking water guy
Yeah
That's what I'm saying
This is parallel thought again
We both had the same idea
No man
Come on man
That's a good song
Thank you
Look up hurt feelings
By flight of the concords
Yeah
And the video clip on YouTube
Yeah
Ooh nice work Mason
Thanks man
Cracking a can
Parallel thought again
Okay I'll give you that one
You did
You did have been cracking a can
I did
Cracking a tiny
I used to just eat the can
And they just crush it in my wind pipe
Release those juices
you know.
Yeah, like an emu man.
Yeah, I think it definitely does need to be changed up.
Yeah, and you do certainly feel the length in these movies.
But I mean, like...
It's interesting that if James Cameron sees it as a challenge.
Yeah.
I like that.
Because, I mean, that's sort of so much of his career prior to like, you know,
when he was doing cheaper movies like the original Terminator.
Like those would have been like an exercise in figuring out the way to do things
cheaply and minimum number of takes and quickest amount of time and all that sort of stuff.
And so I guess to some degree he's kind of been spoiled by having infinite money.
Yes.
So he's spoiled little brat with his infinite money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, because I think he definitely was able to push Disney around prior to this and before
that 20th century Fox.
But now I would say, now if you're only bringing in two billy, they can push you around
because they got more billies.
They got more billies.
Exactly.
But I mean, how do you, what is, what is, what is,
more cheaply is that worse special effects like where you can see the scenes.
I mean, if you cut an hour out of each of them.
Yeah, that's true.
That's that in itself is like, is huge.
I mean, maybe that's it.
It's just like a, just a tighter script.
Yeah.
Less.
I mean, at this point, we've gone, you know, we've had three movies of like, your family's
important.
Well, I think it isn't.
But you're a human guy or whatever.
Well, I could be an alien guy too.
Well, now we're all aligned and we're going to shoot arrows at Brennan-Gleason.
again.
Again.
So you just trim like we're on board.
Just have an early scene where they're like,
where a big family,
we're in love or whatever.
Yeah.
And then you just do the action.
I think also the gap hurt the last one as well.
Yeah.
Because like, you know,
it had been 13 years or whatever it was between first and second.
Mm-hmm.
And people were excited to kind of go back and be like,
I sort of remember this.
But then when it's three years, you're like,
I definitely remember this.
I remember this.
This just happened, I feel like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you know.
Yeah, I know.
You know.
If you're listening, Big Jim, we know.
Yeah, we know.
And we've got parallel thought to you.
We thought of it.
Kind of out of the family stuff.
Get rid of it.
And stop drinking your cans of coke that way.
It's weird.
Does he?
Yeah.
Oh, the ostrich thing, the ostrich method.
Yeah.
I thought you invented that.
Sometimes you get big jim's ear.
Oh, okay.
This one's via THR.
We heard about this a while ago, but there is a metal gear solid movie in the works.
Jordan Voke Roberts was working on it for years.
He did Kings of Summer and Kong Skull Island, two movies that I really, really like.
But apparently, the time of recording this, he hasn't mentioned this, but he's not doing this anymore.
And the directors of this are now Zapp Lippovsky and Adam B. Stein.
And they did the Final Destination Bloodlines movie from last year, which people seem to like, I don't.
They made a lot of money.
Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a Final Destination movie.
I don't either of mine.
Like clip compilations of people getting killed by logs.
James, James, those were real.
Those were real?
Yeah.
That came out.
And the Final Destination movies, they're fake.
This movie got 90.
2% I want to watch this.
You don't need to watch it.
I need to watch this, Mason.
The number four, that was Final Destination 5.
That's getting a 64.
Even Final Destination 5th.
People do love this series.
Let's take a break.
We'll watch Final Destination Bloodlines
and we'll sit in front of your TV
with a huge pile of logs on the top of it.
Okay.
Sounds good, right?
Yeah, let's do it.
And they're just being held up with a little piece of strength.
All right, let's do it.
Can we do it?
Above a candle.
Can we do it?
For our ambience.
But we're going to do it right now.
Okay.
Those were pretty good.
Pretty good movie.
That was fine.
That was good.
Had a good time.
Me too.
Yeah.
So is an announcement.
Metal Gear Solid was nothing short of groundbreaking cinematic masterpiece that forever
revolutionized video games.
Sneaking.
We are thrilled and-
Boxes.
Yeah.
Smoking a cigarette.
We are thrilled and honored to bring Hideo Kajima's iconic characters and unforgettable
worlds to life.
This is the director's tour.
Revolver.
Ocelot.
Yes.
Psycho mantis.
Psycho mantis.
Big Macs running around.
Big Macs running around.
Reading your PlayStation one memory card.
That's right.
Yeah.
Raiden or whatever his name is.
Yes.
Is that his name?
His second in the second one?
Raiden or Raiden is one of those.
Braden.
And then he got his own spin-off move.
Yeah.
Where he ran around with the sword?
Yeah. Metal gear Braden.
Breeden!
Get down from that metal gear.
It's a prequel and he's running for his mom in a shopping center.
Braden, where are you?
Should have you?
on one of those leashes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A little exhalation.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
I know people love the storytelling in these.
I don't.
I find them,
you find them a chore.
Painful.
There's,
they're no doubt,
like,
amazing,
iconic games with incredible set pieces
and obviously a very huge fan page.
Dun,
dun,
dun, dun,
yeah.
Also, Konomi sucks.
Konami sucks.
Oh, yeah, of course.
They,
Hideo Kijima broke,
broke ranks with them.
That's right.
They didn't,
they didn't,
respect his storytelling.
But apparently it's not the only Konami
adaptation in the works.
Death Stranding is also happening
with Michael's...
That's not Konofsky.
That's not Konami though.
Oh, so it's not...
That's Kajima production.
Sorry, I meant to...
Yeah, sorry, I meant to write...
Yeah.
So, this might have been from the article.
So it's the article's fault.
It's the article's fault.
Yeah, that's right, because, like you said, he left.
But Death Stranding...
So it's the director of Pig
and A Quiet Place, Big New York Shush, is doing that one.
I liked that.
I like both those movies.
Yeah, so there you go.
We're going to come.
of
Kujima
Big New York
Shush
Oscar Isaac
was looked at
for solid snake
or other snake
He's been looked at
for all sorts of stuff
People look at him
I think he likes that too
I think he likes it
Yeah
He's got a little
He's got a sly little look to
He's like
Lookin are we
I'm inside Dylan
Lewis Davis
Or whatever
aren't I
That's right
I'm playing a guitar
With Adam Driver
That's right
I
Like what you see
Probably
Don't mind if I do
Don't mind if you do
Oh
Yeah
Okay, Metal Gear.
Who else could be a good?
A Metal Gear Man?
Metal Gear Man, Mr. Metal Gear.
Jacob Allardy.
Too tall. Too tall to hide that box. Couldn't fit in the box.
Okay.
Imagine an actor. Now imagine a standard size cardboard box. Can they fit in the box?
No.
Michael J. Fox fits in the box.
He would fit in the box. That's what I've always said that about it. Michael J. Fox fits in that box.
Get that box, Michael J. Fox.
That's right. I don't want to.
Matthew Fox. He'd fit in the box.
I don't like Matthew Fox.
Okay. Justin Timberlake, Dick in a box.
Yeah. I'd like Justin Timberlake.
but like, I think he's cool.
No, you don't?
I think he's cool.
Come on, man.
Don't you think it's time
and he comes back and he's cool again?
No, I don't think it is.
No, no.
We think he's cool.
We're having parallel thoughts.
I don't think that's true at all.
I don't know.
I don't think he's cool.
Austin Butler.
I had the thought of Austin Butler.
But he's everything and everyone.
Yeah, and he's not, uh,
he needs to be more grizzled.
You can grizzle him up.
Yeah, I don't know.
Cheak bones too high.
Wow.
Yeah, that's right.
Okay.
Do gray Scott.
Yeah, too old.
I could be old snake, I guess.
But you need young snake as well.
Young snake.
Yake.
Yake.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anyway, great.
Let's see if this happens.
How about this?
What?
Tom Holland.
I love it.
Yeah, pretty good, right?
Tom Holland with a ponytail?
Yes, please.
And an eye patch?
Yes, please.
I've lost me depth perception.
I'm going to hide in this box.
He'd fit in the box.
He'd fit in the box.
That's what they say, Tom Holland.
He'd fit in that box.
You get him and Michael J. Fox in that box.
That's right, exactly.
They could play big snake and solid snake.
or whatever.
Yes.
Big boss in Solid Snake?
Maybe.
Yeah, man.
I should play that remake of three.
That's the best one, isn't it?
Maybe.
Wow.
This is by this skate pot.
Marble Studios Brad Winterbaum.
Oh, yes.
You familiar with Brad Winterbaum?
Sounds like a name you could set your watch to.
I'm sending it right now.
Brad, wait, I've got numbers on this watch.
I don't know.
I was wrong.
I was wrong, and I'm a man enough to admit it.
I thought I could set my watch to the name Brad Winterbaum.
But I checked and I can't.
You don't see me embarrassed.
I could set an alarm on my phone and then let me name the alarm and I'll name the alarm Brad Winterbow.
Okay.
Okay.
You're going to do that now?
I guess.
What time are you going to set it for?
Well, I don't work tomorrow until 4 p.m.
Nice.
You could set up at 3.38.
You're baby.
All right.
So he's a producer over at Marvel and he's development executive, etc.
He does a bunch of stuff like that.
So, yeah, he's been with Marvel for quite a while now.
Anyway, they were talking about Shee Hulk, and he said Sheehulk is apparently
to my Brad Winter Farm 11, what is it?
1159.
11.59 a.m.
Whoa.
A.m?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, because I was thinking midnight.
I am.
Yeah.
I couldn't set my, I'd get it confused.
I couldn't do the Brad Winter Barn alarm.
Well, Brad Whitelarm.
That's correct, yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Should I change it?
No, this is good.
What you're doing?
Don't doubt yourself.
She elk was apparently one of Marvel's best performance.
Sheeulk, of course.
the Disney Plus streaming series.
Correct.
Apparently was a hit with the general audience.
James, before you go anywhere?
Yeah.
Should we put this under the woker scope?
We can put it up.
Well, speaking of, the show was a hit with general audiences, but the discourse online did not
reflect that necessarily.
So, again, I mean, I liked it.
I was like, I liked it a lot.
I liked more than other people at same.
Yeah.
Also, if you've read, I guess, any of them, my mind.
or even like the past 20, 30 years of Sheehawk.
That's what it is.
Mostly just that.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it wasn't perfect, but I like it on the whole.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, everything else from Marvel is perfect.
Yeah, exactly.
That's why it took it there.
I mean, again, the idea, like the idea that it was making fun of men, not accurate,
it was making fun of a certain type of man.
Yeah.
And if you're not that certain type of man, wasn't making fun of you.
If you're not that certain type of man, that means you should be.
And you're doing wrong.
That's right.
Yeah.
He said he'd love to make more, but it's not going to happen.
He said, hopefully one day, I know Tediana Mislani is just like, I don't want to do any of this shit or whatever.
If they gave her a million bucks to do, like, you know, shop in the Avengers or whatever.
Yeah, exactly.
I know she was in a bunch of leaked concept art for that, but I don't know whether she's actually going to be in Secret Wars or Doomsday or whatever.
I would bet that the character design, like the character model for the Shee Hulk is just different enough that they could use the character without having a pay.
or any license rights.
Yeah, that's probably true.
They just put her in the background.
They did with Red Hulk.
Red Skull, sorry.
They did, yeah.
Well,
they did it with Carrie Coon.
Oh,
yeah,
Proxima Midnight.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
you're right.
Because they,
I think her husband
talked about this
on a podcast
or an interview
or something like that
they,
they'll like,
come back for less money.
Yeah,
they were like,
yeah,
she said,
you know,
the last one made a billion dollars.
If I,
if I come back,
can I have more
and they're like,
no,
you should be lucky
cinephile Tracy Letts and playwright and so forth.
Yeah, exactly.
Look at our physical media collection, she said.
We could all be so lucky.
That's exactly right.
Yeah.
And he was on an episode of Seinfeld.
Great.
Yeah.
Another cool guy.
I mean, they're different kind of cool, him and Justin Timberlake, aren't?
That's correct, yes.
Yeah.
One is cool than others than the other.
I think if I had a complaint about Chiok,
it's that you could have done more, I would have like more of a legal focused episodes.
Right, yeah, okay, yeah.
You know, just like bringing in, and they did.
have a few that like the frog man or whatever yeah do more episodes focusing on like you know
villain of the week or hero of the week yeah there was it for a given how many how many episodes
were there eight 10 something like that but like yeah no you probably right i don't need the origin or
whatever yeah and i guess we don't like they would i guess nine nine i guess they were torn between
22 god trillion years ago i guess they were torn between we need to have her go through this arc
and have it build up to this you know this thing at the end or we could just
do funny sitcom style thing of the week.
But yeah, and again, like one of the strongest episodes
was the Leap Frog episode, which does have Daredevil in it.
But it also is intro to the character.
There's a part of a legal drama,
and then there's a part where she can't solve in the court of law,
so then we have to do the action bit.
So that was a very strong episode.
Daredevil and no Daredevil.
That's right.
But it was Daredevil.
It was Daredevil.
In his ketchup and mustard suit.
Also, it was probably expensive.
Looked expensive.
You have to have a bunch of Hulk people in it.
Yeah, that's, I mean, wasn't there, there's definitely a moment in, maybe a couple of moments in that series where she's like, I'm going to change shape off screen now because it's really expensive to do that.
Does she ever change on screen actually?
Yeah.
Okay.
Good.
Yeah.
Good to know.
Which is more than the Hulk has done in like a decade.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, speaking of various Daredevil's.
Oh, yes.
Daredevil, born against season three is currently happening.
I'm really enjoying season two.
I don't know if you watched it.
Me too.
I have, yeah.
I liked Borgening in season one, even though I did feel like they've cut some stuff together here.
Why is Karen Page not in the scene with anybody else except Mad Murdoch?
They've changed a lot of that.
The second season feels more cohesive.
Parallel thought.
Parallel thought.
Me and you.
No, no, no.
The same.
So parallel thought, but you said it first.
Correct.
I don't think you know what parallel thought is.
I don't think you know what parallel thought is.
Maybe I don't.
Maybe you don't, see?
That was too much energy.
Sorry, I'm going to bring it down.
You're all good, man.
You're all good.
Don't worry about it, all right?
Thanks, man.
Anyway, Born and season three is filming, and on set, we've seen Kristen Ritter is back,
who is also going to be back in season two as Jessica Jones.
But we've seen Mike Colter and Finn Jones as Luke Cage and Iron Fist.
Correct.
Lovely.
Great.
I do like it.
I think Finn Jones, I mean, everyone liked Mike Colter's Luke Cage.
And Iron Fist was, I think, the first Netflix series where people went, oh, maybe these aren't great,
even though I think there's some good stuff in it.
But I'm glad that he's having another.
shot at that. Yeah, and I think their team-ups. I like the, I like the defenders. Finn Jones was also
in Luke Cage season two, I think. And I thought they, I thought they had a good chemistry. Yeah.
And like, I liked seeing them team up and beat people up. Yeah, that was fun. Put some more Corrie
into it. Put some more Corrie into it. Do you see how big Charlie Cox is? Yeah, huge. Jesus.
What happened? Is he doing that H-G-H? No. Charlie. Charlie. Charlie.
No, Charlie. I remember Charlie the unicorn. No. It's no parallel thought here, ladies and
gentlemen. It's right. It's just me.
Twisted in the wind.
Plus, Finn Jones said, grab that jam that time.
He did. So we're on his side.
We are on his side and God bless him.
Yeah. So that's cool. That's great.
This is what I love.
I know people love it when people show up from other things.
It's our favorite thing. That's right.
Speaking of people showing up again,
Deadline are reporting that Crips, Chris, Chris, Chris Hemsworth
will return as Jake Straction in Extraction 3.
Wow.
What's his, what's his character's name?
really.
Do you know?
I wrote it down.
You wrote it down.
But not off the top of your head.
No.
It's Tracy.
You're close.
It is a thing.
Chapman.
It's Tyler Rake.
It's not Tracy Chapman.
It's not Tracy Chapman.
No.
Interesting.
Again, it's Tyler Rake.
Okay.
Yeah.
Is it four non-blonds?
No.
Okay.
Well, he is blonde, isn't he?
I don't think he is blonde in this right.
I think he's brown.
Okay.
Is it blind melon?
Is his name blind melon?
Again, I've said it multiple times.
I don't know whether you're not hearing me or you're just doing a joke.
I don't know.
I don't even know either.
His name is Tyler Rake.
Okay, you're sure, though.
Because sometimes you write something down and then we learn later you wrote it down wrong.
Yeah, that's true.
I did that earlier or whatever.
I didn't know about that Kajima thing.
Yeah.
No, this time I'm pretty sure.
Okay.
You could say Gin Blossom.
Yeah, no, I don't want to say that.
No, I don't want to say that.
Oh, it's too good.
I mean, it's parallel thought, isn't it?
It's parallel thought, isn't it?
God, Deb.
All right.
All right.
Tyler Rake.
Tyler Rake.
Idris Alba's coming back.
From the gin blossoms.
From the gym blossoms.
He's in the gym blossoms.
He's in the gilbers.
He's got all these alvers.
Yeah, these people.
Sometimes they die.
Yeah.
But Idris Alba was in two.
You correct.
Now he's in this.
Sam Hargrave is returning to direct.
He started like a Captain America stunt man, I think, among other things.
So he's directing these.
There's also a spinoff in the works.
This movie's probably a couple years away at least.
They're always good.
I agree.
One and two were good.
Good.
good solid action movies, good oners.
Good oners, even if they are fake ones as we don't know.
They're funners.
So, yeah, in terms of also Netflix action movies, they're, you know, they're all right.
They're better than all right, I would say.
That's right.
Everybody beat up all those Indian kids in the slum or whatever in the first one?
Chris Headsworth.
Yeah, just slap and kids.
I don't remember that.
It definitely happened.
Okay, all right.
It's on YouTube.
Yeah.
Yeah.
On Netflix.
Yeah.
And then when he gets shot in the neck, there's a deleted scene where all the Indian kids
like, yeah.
Good.
Good.
He slapped us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there you go.
And we've got this, of course.
Trailers, a hoy.
Honk.
Tingling.
Yeah.
For the Punisher, one last kill.
Okay.
And before what?
Before lunch?
One last kill before lunch?
No, I think he's going to be going to wrap it off after this.
I don't think he is.
What do you mean?
Isn't this going to lead into the Spider-Man?
No, because this comes out May 12th.
This is pre-Spiteman.
That's what I'm saying.
Oh, lead into it.
I thought you meant after.
No.
We're having some parallel thought.
We are having parallel authority.
a parallel thought issue.
Yeah.
I thought it's too parallel.
They might be.
Yeah.
So this is the third special presentation that Marvel are doing.
What are the other two?
Quick name them.
Man thing?
That's not called Man Thing.
Werewolf by Night?
There he is.
And the gin blossoms, live in concert.
I'll give you a clue.
The Running Man.
No.
Look what I'm doing.
The Running Man.
No, it's the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special.
What is this then?
It's Kevin Bacon.
Oh.
Footloose.
No.
Okay.
Because he was running in that.
I was doing when he was running.
Oh.
Like the running man.
No.
No, not like the running man.
This is not parallel thought.
Not at all.
So it's surprising they haven't done more of these.
I agree.
Yeah.
Also, especially when you don't want to commit to a full series,
you're like, yeah, give character a little run around like Kevin Bacon.
Oh, I see.
You know what I mean?
Do you think it's one last kill of Kevin Bacon?
Maybe.
Go get him.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
John Bernthal.
Correct.
He will start.
And he's also co-writing that with.
director, Rinaldo.
I think he's probably written it by now.
Yes, they've probably already done that.
John the synopsis?
Yes.
Then look it up.
You got a phone?
No, I don't.
No, I don't.
You just put Sam Hart.
You put, not Sam, out of Graves.
You put that Brad Winterbuck, whatever.
Whatever.
No, it in his theatre of the mind.
I've never owned a phone.
That's Frank Castle.
You've got two phones.
As Frank Castle searches for meeting beyond revenge,
an unexpected force pulls him back into the fight.
Kevin Bacon.
No, no.
You've got to get Ford loose, Frank.
Castle?
How long do you think this is?
It's a special presentation.
Hour and 10.
It's exactly an hour.
It's stopped for once in your life.
You would have been perfect.
It's 60 minutes again.
It's out, not like the show.
It's out May 12th of this year, which is soon.
And it's soon.
And that leads into Spider-Man.
It does lead into Spider-Man.
So this should be, should be.
Could be good.
Could be good.
I wish he was bigger.
The Punisher.
Yeah, this version.
Isn't he?
Isn't he regular?
Make him big.
Oh, like, like a Frankenstein's monster time.
Yeah, like a Frankenstein man.
Yeah, maybe.
Don't you think?
Like a Ray Stevenson, big.
I think he's good.
I like John Bernthal, but he was in the walking down all.
He was Shane.
But I think, yeah, you know, it would be good.
And then he's in, and then you clean up his act in Spider-Man and whatever.
See that scene in, you would have seen it in Dead Devil Borning in Season 1,
where the guy puts his arm through the cage and he just, like, snaps his arm.
Yeah.
Great.
Yeah, it's great.
More of that kind of stuff, please.
I would also kind of like more man with a plan
because often he just kind of seems to run in and just...
What about man with the van?
Yeah, he does that too.
But, you know, like, it seemed...
I mean, did I watch the show?
I can't remember.
I don't think I did watch the season one of The Punisher,
but he's often seems like he's just winging it.
He's not, you know, he can, but he'll...
Yeah.
He's got plans to kill him.
Yeah, I wonder if he'll be backerack.
We'll find out.
I think he died.
Anyway.
All right.
Let's move on.
What are we going to talk about?
We're going to talk about some television show
Let's talk about television show
Let's get into it
We're getting into it
The boys
The boys final season
What are the boys going to become men
Good question
Would you watch a show called Du Bois to Dement?
No
Then what are you worried about
What do you care whether they're going to become?
Well I'm worried and then I won't be able to watch
anymore
Once they become men
Oh okay yeah
That's probably a good point
Because you only like watching boys
Oh come on
Yes
All right
But I disagree
I don't like that
What do you think
story was
for this particular season.
Well,
they're in a bit of a pickle
once again,
aren't they?
Why?
Well,
they got to put it
into a concentration camp.
I forgot that,
yeah, they did.
Some of them did.
Some of them did.
Not all of the boys.
So some of them
in the work camp,
but the other,
the other half,
like, how do we get them out of the camp?
How do we starlight them out of this?
How do we start light them out of that dang camp?
And Billy Butch has got a squid in him.
He's got a,
he's full of squids.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He ain't got a quid,
but he's got a squid.
It's true.
That's a good way to put it.
I think so too.
Yeah.
Go on.
And then we get in there.
Yep.
You have to get them out, great escape style.
Yeah, yeah.
And continue to try and figure out a way to kill Homeland.
Who's going to show their butt or their penis or their, you know.
It's a good question.
Yeah, or they, you know, everybody.
I hope you're not talking to our listeners because we don't like emails like that.
Right.
Please do not send those.
This is not a joke.
Don't do it.
I don't know why I've even brought it up.
But parallel thought probably.
Probably that, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's going to be rude this season?
What is going to be?
What do you see the guy with the mega dong or whatever?
Yeah, sure, we do.
It looks fake though.
Yeah.
So you reckon?
It doesn't look real.
It doesn't look like his real dog, I don't think.
Interesting.
Wow.
Yeah.
You know what?
That didn't even occur to me as like a shocking thing anymore.
No.
That's what's interesting about the boys season five, I think.
I'm like, what's happened that's been shocking this so far this first couple of episodes?
I'm like, I can't think of anything.
And then I'm like, oh, he got choked to death with his own penis.
Yeah, that's true.
That would have been a shot.
And M.
Stabbed his penis.
Stab his giant fake penis.
There's a big rock man.
Big rock man.
Good rock.
Ejaculations.
Sure, absolutely.
I guess that's a shocking thing.
These spoilers, I don't know.
Should we just do spoilers?
There's two out.
There's two out.
Yeah,
watch what you're like?
I thought it was still pretty cool.
Yeah, I think it's pretty consistent.
I don't think it's the pinnacle of the boys, I think, like, I don't think
we're going to hit that again.
It is, it is, and it does.
It's that thing of like, oh, you can't really, you can't make this up.
How was the stuff in the show?
Like, refresh.
reflecting reality.
And they've talked about how they gave Homelander a speech this season.
And it was like,
it was so far fest,
but then it was something that Trump said,
he's Trump,
by the way,
I know we've talked about it before.
It's not like a,
it's a pretty shallow parallel.
It's not a shocking thing to put in.
But I do,
even though they're like,
you can't make this up,
how was this reflecting reality?
But it's also just like,
oh, you know,
AI and everyone's a snowflake and there's deep flakes,
deep fakes.
And there's the deep stakes.
Yeah.
And there's a couple.
the deep state.
There's a secret,
yeah,
exactly,
there's a single
cabal or whatever,
and it's like,
I mean,
you're saying it's reflecting
and how do they even,
but they're just also taking
literal things that are happening in society
and just putting him in this superhero universe.
So I don't,
it doesn't feel like they're predicting anything.
It's just like,
oh,
this unhinged person said this
so we'll get this unhinged person
who's got superpowers in the show to say
a similar thing at this point,
you know,
but that's politics.
That is politics,
isn't it?
And we've solved it.
I think we might have.
That's not what I was trying to do,
but I might have,
actually.
I mean, that's how we do these things, isn't it?
It's politics.
We have a bit of a laugh.
Yep.
And we solve everything.
Yeah, and we might just.
And we did.
We did.
So we got the resistance consisting of Huey and Staff writer and Frenchie and a talking now.
Kimiko.
Kimiko.
And Butcher.
Yes.
Billy Butch is back and he's got squids in him or whatever.
That's right.
Some of the worst squids homeland has ever seen.
It might just, yeah.
Can he one V1 homeland or?
I feel like he couldn't still.
No, I don't think he could still.
Otherwise, he would have.
He probably would have done it already.
Yeah, you're right.
That's a good point.
And this is, it's interesting because they, you know, how much of Gen V the spin-off series
factors into this?
I'm going to say very little.
Very little.
I think some of the characters are going to appear, but the virus that was introduced in
Gen V.
Oh, was it also introduced in this show?
It was also introduced in this show.
Okay.
Well, it's definitely, it was definitely fleshed out more in Gen V is now coming into this.
Yeah.
As a form of like, well, this is how we're going to try and kill, you know, homeland.
It's also interesting that they put.
put some teenage superhero characters in this and it's not people from GenV?
Correct, yes.
I think.
Yeah, no, it's not.
Yeah.
So, you know, and there's the guy who's like a parallel to the thing.
And I was like, oh, how are they going to do like a thing style character in this universe and
making him kind of built into a mountain is, you know, a clever way to get around the budget
of having a guy like that.
Yes, exactly.
Moving around the set or whatever, you put you either have to do a big suit or CDO or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They tried this, the first couple of episodes, they kind of.
of, they kind of try to, like, separate Huey and Starlight again?
Like, they kind of do the thing of like, well, I don't even trust you anymore.
Hmm, aren't we, well, we're different than whatever.
Maybe you'll go too far or whatever.
I don't think there's any going too far.
It's all fine at this point.
I think it's fine at this point.
This whole world and universe could burn down.
It probably just should anyway, right?
I think it will.
But does that what I'm saying about our regular universe, you know?
Because there's so many parallel thoughts going on.
Yeah.
So, you know, I think also they,
They kill a pretty main-ish character.
Yeah, I'd say main character up top in A-Train.
Correct.
That feels like a kind of thing of like an anything can happen kind of moment.
Absolutely, yeah.
Uh-huh, yeah.
Apparently it wasn't supposed to happen until like a few episodes in, like episode three.
Okay, but then they decided to do a big shock.
Bringing that forward.
In episode one, right?
Yeah, so it felt like, it did feel in that opening bit that, oh, somebody probably needs to die here for there to be stakes in this.
Correct.
In this series.
And I guess it is interesting that A-Train died.
because he avoided somebody,
which is how he was introduced,
by like splattering.
He did turn Huey's girlfriend in a pace
in the first episode too.
Yeah, so, you know, there is...
Yeah, that's growth.
Yes.
That's growth.
Characters.
And not just a growth that is squids in the body.
Which some people have in this show.
That's correct.
Hughie's, I was going to say,
Brothers are Dewey and Louis.
That's right, yeah,
but in this, we haven't met them yet.
But there is like that thing of,
and we talked about this a bit off air.
He's had so many terrible things happen to him,
and he rattles them off him.
in this.
Like there is this kind of,
there is this kind of water off a duck's back kind of thing to a lot of these
characters of like,
you know,
nine terrible things happen to me every episode.
Uh-huh.
And he's just a regular guy.
Yes.
And,
you know,
he's desensitized or he just doesn't care at this point.
I guess I'm moving forward because he's also just a guy.
Correct.
Yes.
Which would be terrified.
But there does seem to be,
they're definitely kind of,
I feel like,
and you see it with him talking to Homelander,
there's a lack of kind of fear.
Yeah.
At this point, because it's just like, we're tired.
We're all tired.
If you want to laser me, can you just do it, please?
I mean, again, reflecting what we're really like in society now.
Yeah, that's right.
Listen, Mr. President, if you do have a giant laser, is it just laser us.
Just stop talking about it.
Yeah.
So apparently, well, we've seen his return, but Soldier Boy comes back in this episode.
Apparently he's in quite a lot.
Yes.
For going forward.
Even though seemingly, well, I mean, you know, it's already been revealed.
But, you know, the, you know, the,
they tested the boys who were not yet men.
They've tested,
maybe this is what turned him into men,
killing all those people in that room.
But they tested the virus
and the teenage kicks streaming manner
place and killed a couple of the villains
and also seemingly sultrip boy,
but of course he's come back in some form.
Do you think he's zombie like now?
I think he's fine.
Is he a carrier of the virus?
That's a good question.
Because I know there's clips of him.
him that he has with Jared Paddleck.
He's character who's in this.
He's also, because Eric Kripki worked on this also worked on Supernatural, which those two
were together.
And what's his deal?
Is he going to have a, is he going to have a talking dick or a talking butthole?
Or is he going to have poop shooting out of his mouth?
Or what's his deal?
Poop shooting out of his talking dick.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, the poop talks.
We get it.
Eric Kripki.
We get it.
Yeah.
So, no, I, um, yeah, that would be interesting if he's a carrier.
I think it's.
I think it's supposed to just be that thing of like, well, if he's immune, then Homeland is immune.
Yeah, so we've got to find another.
Yeah.
Because it would be too easy.
They're too, you know.
I think they're just going to cave his head in.
I think so too.
Yeah, I think that's, that might weaken him with something like this.
Well, I mean, and seemingly also, Soldier Boy still has the ability to take away superclass as well,
because he attempts to do it on butcher.
Yeah.
Which I think also might just happen to butcher.
And so he won't be, have the killer squids in him.
more cancer anymore.
Yeah.
So I think that's a possibility in this.
Yeah.
Anyway,
he meets his father,
doesn't he again or whatever?
And butcher.
Yeah.
And it's the guy from Fringe.
It's the guy from Fringe.
And also he's Denethor.
You familiar with Denethor?
From Lord of Rings?
Oh, yeah, sure, Denethor.
There you go.
There's something that I've taught you today.
That's right.
But in a way,
you know, it's Paroleal.
I'm learning too.
Yeah, so it's Parallet Thor.
We're learning from each other.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Pretty, I thought, I'm pretty fun.
Yeah, it's pretty solid.
But I feel like this is a good time to be, if there was another season beyond this,
I kind of would be like, okay.
I guess it is interesting that the plane footage from the first season like resurfaces,
but also at a time where that could also easily be faked.
Correct, yes.
Which, you know, reflects reality.
AI, deep state, et cetera.
Correct, yes.
Yeah.
But it does also, yeah, it definitely feels like a kind of thing where I don't really think people would care.
Yeah.
Like either in real life.
or in the show
that people like disappear.
And of course there are,
you know,
there are so many
homelander sicker fans at this point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also,
or if it is real,
you know,
well,
I'm on board at this point.
You know,
it takes a lot for people
to jump off board
when they're fully committed
to, you know,
a lunatic.
Correct.
For example.
Like our listeners.
That's right.
They committed to,
I feel like also like,
he is the president
right at this point.
Correct.
It took me a second to be like,
is he actually the president?
Well,
he's not actually the president.
Or he's not, yeah.
But the other guy's the president.
And the vice president is now...
Got a face on the back of her head.
Colby Minifie, what's her character's name?
I can't remember.
But, yeah, so last season, prior to Gen Ve.
So last season, she took the V as in it, like an emergency...
She thought she was going to die, so she takes the V.
And we see her head mutating.
We don't know what it was.
So she's gave the ability to read minds, but it's only because she has a giant tumour on
the back of her head with her own...
And maybe that reads minds and tells her, yeah.
And that...
And it's got her, he's because she's now got a second face.
Yeah.
That's telling her to be a better person.
So that's fun.
That is interesting.
Do you think there's going to be some kind of turn there from her?
I think she's been waiting.
The turn will be Homeland had turning a hot later around.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
But I think they're, I feel like they have been building towards that, right?
Like her, like becoming more and more unhinged and just kind of doing worse and
worse things and there has to be a breaking point, I guess, for that for that character.
Yeah.
And it's her neck.
Yeah.
It'd be nice if Queen Mayve came back as well.
Well, I think he's still alive and has an eye patch, maybe.
Correct, yes.
Yeah.
Interesting.
You're thinking of Captain Morgan, the rum pirate.
I'm not a Captain Morgan fan of his work or his rum.
Okay.
Yeah.
What do you think the sister Sage thing?
Where do you think that's going?
Do you think she's just going to get lacered by Homeland or at some point where he just becomes sick of her plans and machinations?
Yeah, because I mean, obviously the, you know, the, the gist here is that she's got her own, she's got her own agenda and she's the smartest person in the world.
So what is that angle?
Is she going to take over the presidency?
Yeah.
Is that the plan?
Homeland is going to become undone and she's going to be top dog.
Sure.
Or maybe she's not that smart at all.
Well, that's exactly.
I mean, because before this, she was like living in squalor and whatever.
So maybe she's not.
Yeah.
You know?
Maybe your power is convincing people that she's the smartest person in the world.
I know a few people like that, Mason.
Oh, yes.
You for example.
Thanks, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know.
pretty good pretty good it's good it's well made it looks good it's gooey it is gooey yeah yeah
it's hewy yeah thanks right yeah you're welcome you don't need to say that thanks yeah that's it's it's
yeah that's it i guess okay what else um how many are we getting great question the boys season
I mean I mean I know again it is going to be it is going to continue yeah like beyond this as I talked
about.
Do you think there's any,
is like,
there's any,
like life in this,
beyond this universe,
beyond this show,
which is better than the comics?
Um,
yeah,
that's a great,
a great question.
I mean,
do they make a,
do they end up making,
is this going to end with them making a better world?
Or is the world going to fall the pieces,
do you think?
Right.
I mean,
if there has to be like spin-offs,
then there has to be something,
except for the Vort prequel,
I guess,
which is,
Set in the 50s or whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
God, this started in July of 2019.
No, I disagree.
No, it has, man.
It's gone.
It's been a season every two or so years.
Terrific.
Since then.
Terrific stuff.
Yeah, cool.
All right, let's move it along, I reckon.
Let's move it along.
What are we doing?
What we're reading?
We can talk about the drama in the what we're reading segment.
What we're going to read?
We can talk about the drama.
Let's talk about the drama.
The drama.
I'm doing nothing.
I feel like this is something that we both have.
have more to say about it?
I have a lot to say about this.
Yeah.
This movie is, uh, it's fueling the discourse.
Or at least it has been for a few days.
Who knows?
Yeah, we don't know what's happened at this point.
Probably people have forgotten about it and it's on streaming.
And then it's been deleted from streaming at the internet.
That's exactly right.
And everybody's been cancelled.
Good.
I think the director's been cancelled.
Oh, what?
What for what?
I don't know.
I don't even know this.
I don't know.
Not a current thing, but a past thing, I think.
Yeah, that's normally how it works.
They normally don't do a new thing.
Oh, look at it is a sinister looking, falet.
This Norwegian filmmaker, Christoph Borgly.
Dream Scenario.
He did that one, did he?
Oh, yeah, that was Nichols Cage.
I didn't see Dream Scenario.
I'm just having a quick quiz.
Okay, great, have a quick quiz.
Ah.
In a 2012 essay, he detailed a relationship with a high school student
admitting friends told him that the relationship was not within bounds.
Okay.
Fuck it.
All right.
I shouldn't have said anything before we talked about the drama.
Well, there's other good things about this movie I hope.
Agreed.
Yeah.
Fuck.
So I watch this.
I'm like, I'm like, I hope somebody else is going to watch this and you watch this.
Yeah, well, I knew you wanted me to watch it.
Correct, yes.
And you liked it.
I did like it.
I also like it.
I like it less now.
Well, I like it more.
No.
No, I don't.
That's true.
Do you want to do the premise?
Well, the premise is that so Zendaya and Robert Pattinson play a couple.
They had a little funny meat cute back in the day.
And then a couple of years later, they're about to get married.
engaged and then they sit with another couple.
They go to that.
What's the thing where you go and you test out all the stuff you're going to have at the
wedding, like all the food and stuff?
Looking at it.
Samples.
Samples.
They're having a sample dinner.
Food samples.
And they're pretty drunk.
And they're with another couple, their best friends, I guess.
I love that little joke where, because they ask for more wine.
And they're like, and they're like, we're not a bar.
Yeah.
There's a little things like that.
This is a funny movie.
It is.
Yeah.
I've had people say, I've seen people say, oh, it's not a rom-com.
No.
I think it is a rom-com.
I mean, not in the tradition.
I'm going to say no.
It's very dark.
Yeah.
But, well, it's pretty dark.
It's kind of funny and there's romance in it.
It's kind of death at a funeral without that level of absurdity at the end, I guess.
Yeah, for sure, yeah.
It's a bit of that.
Anyway, they're sitting with this other couple and they've had too much to drink
and they've decided to tell each other the worst thing they've ever done.
Why would you do that?
And three of them have stuff that is...
I thought about that, and I'm like, I think I'm in the clear.
Yeah, it's good, isn't it?
But then Zendaya's character, Emma, is like, I've got a terrible, he's a terrible thing.
Do we, we want to spoil it out here?
Or at all?
We might have to at some point.
Yeah, we'll spoil it later, but I don't think we should say it now.
It's also a difficult thing to, you don't want to spoil it, but there's also people who probably don't want to know about it.
Like, they'd rather not watch the movie if they knew about what the thing was.
Okay, yeah.
But I also think it, but it's interesting.
Like, I think it works.
through the topic in an interesting way.
And I think that that might be interesting even if...
Yeah.
I think it also shows like people at a certain time are troubled for various reasons and
people grow and change and better themselves either through, you know, personal growth
or just pure chance and just growing up and changing, which I thought was interesting.
Yeah.
I think both elites are very good in this.
Yeah, really funny.
I mean, I don't...
I only really know Zendaya from the Spider-Man movies.
Challenges.
Oh, she's great challenges.
I saw Euphoria.
I won't watch the new season because who goes.
Yeah, I didn't see in euphoria.
It's good.
I'll see it in one of course.
And of course, Robert Pattinson, in semi-goblin mode.
Yes.
Like, it's quite charming.
He's in the creep zone.
It's in the creep zone, that's right.
And he's a very good portrayal of a man who is in a very high-stress environment,
and he's just unraveling in a bunch of different ways, which I think is.
is fun.
Good,
good supporting cast, too.
I mean, it's quite a small cast.
So it's Alana Heim.
Yeah.
Plays Rachel,
who is one of the couple,
and who's the other guy,
who I've seen in a bunch of stuff.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
I had, do not recall his name,
but I've seen him in stuff recently.
The drama cast.
The drama castor.
Oh, also, this is produced by Ariaster,
who once again, you know,
he made Bowes Afraid, he made Eddington.
He's, he's, you know,
his whole thing is like,
or Boe's afraid, actually.
Yeah, his whole thing is like,
I'm going to make people
people upset, I think, in a variety of different ways.
Well, this is an A-24 upsetting situation.
Absolutely, it is.
So, uh, Mamudu Athi is Mike.
So that's Charlie's best man.
Uh, just a lot of, this, this has a lot of, uh, just a lot of funny situations.
Yeah.
There's a, it's, is great in this.
Yeah.
Did you mention her?
Uh, no.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
There is a funny, she's, she's got a funny riff going on.
Yeah.
What have I seen her in recently as well?
Uh, she was in, uh, Cruy Sevens is a scumbag.
Oh, yeah, materialist.
She was materialist.
I don't know.
There's a lot of funny situations in this.
Like as the secret unravels everything,
there's a replacing the DJ thing where we get a new DJ.
It's kind of,
you know,
an old character.
The wedding photography bit is super funny.
Absolutely.
As these,
as she's,
the wedding photographer is attempting to get some genuine smiles out of them
in like a practice run,
even though they're,
yeah,
something's,
as far as she can tell.
Something is up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
is very funny.
Yeah.
I think it's not, it's interesting
because the terrible thing that she does,
and they all admit to terrible different things.
I feel like it's not,
oh, I guess the movie talks about this.
Let's get into it right now.
I'm going to say best movie ever.
It's time for spoilers.
Yeah, same.
Here's some extra spoiler space.
If you're in the US and you don't want to know
what it is, the thing,
it's also real pretty early.
Like it could be,
it's a sensitive topic.
topic. Yeah. So, because what did you say about like you kind of would want to maybe know the
spoilers if there's something that it kind of happened to you? Yeah, maybe. It's a very, it's an American
thing. Yeah. It's a very American thing. Yeah. And I think the, the, a smart thing that's been
done in this movie is that they've kept Robert Pattinson as British. Yes. He's British and he's kind
of posh and he's come from money, which is why he has this museum curator job thing that he has.
Yeah. Um, which gives him a bit of distance. So anyway, it's time for spoilers. We're doing
Spoilers right now.
So, and I also think this is interesting that, so Emma, so that's Zendaya's character,
her big reveal.
Okay, so, so Robert Pattinson's reveal is that he's cyberbullied a kid.
Yeah.
So hard that the kid had to move.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Or maybe they just moved.
So Mike's reveal is that when he was dating a woman, he used her as a human child when a dog
attacked them.
Yeah.
And then Rachel, who's Alana Heim's character, her.
reveal is that she locked a slow kid in a caravan or like a cupboard in the woods in the woods
overnight and then left him there and then which i think in terms of things actually executed is
the much worse yeah i mean as a thing that actually happened because zendaya's thing is if it even
happened like she said it did sure that's like if any of the others so i think mike's one is genuine
because it came out first yeah but then the others so zendaya's emma's reveal is that she
as a teenager in high school yeah planned out of mass shooting
She didn't pay it up.
She didn't carry it out.
It got fairly close.
Yeah.
And she got obsessed with the culture of it.
Yeah.
And the notorious kind of fame.
And the aesthetics of it and making videos and stuff.
But then another one happened.
Like that day close to them.
Yeah.
And then she was stunned and she kind of saw the...
Also it was like maybe she didn't want to do it on the same day.
Yeah.
Because then one would overshadow the other.
But she didn't do it.
She didn't do it.
And then, but then...
There was a classmate that was killed in it.
Yeah.
And so she saw what happened to all the people around.
And so it sort of shocked her into changing her ways.
And then she threw away her father's gun.
And also because of a boy and whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And everybody around the table is very shocked about it.
But it's also interesting.
Yeah.
What I think is the whole, you know, the whole bunch of stuff around, it's very interesting.
But that initially Rachel is very shocked.
Yeah.
And she's like, my cousin was paralyzed in a shooting.
But it seemed quite performative.
Yes.
when she says this.
And so all the other reveals are like inherently quite suspect because then later we
meet the cousin and she's never met Rachel's husband.
Yeah.
So they're clearly not that close.
Yeah, absolutely.
So like did she just say it kind of felt like it.
It felt like an excuse to be outraged and make it about her and send her on her.
And she was like a shooting's never happened to her.
Yeah.
But it happened to a cousin.
So she's going to throw it in it.
Like this is the drama.
Yes.
Like it feels like Rachel is creating the drama.
drama. And the same thing with Charlie, who is Robert Pattinson's character, because he's the
third one to go with a reveal. And if the worst thing he's ever done. And it sounds like there's a
bunch of different ways to read the scene. One is that that's the, that was true. Yeah. One is that
it's, he's never done anything bad. Yeah. And he just made something. And I probably sent some
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he made that up.
Or the third one is he's done something way worse than that or many things way worse than that.
But he doesn't want to admit it the week before his wedding.
Yeah.
Like if he says, and based on the events in the movie, I think it is that one.
Because if you mean the way that he unravels or the way...
Because at the moment, he has like this emotional breakdown at work and then he immediately
cheats on his fiance with his woman at work for a second.
So I think it's probably that.
But he doesn't want to admit he's like a...
Do you mean he's done it to Zend?
Or somebody else.
Maybe. Maybe there's someone in a previous relationship.
Yeah.
Maybe to Zendaya.
But he's not going to admit that the week before the wedding.
Yeah, okay.
Because that would be crazy.
Because he does going to go, uh, uh, yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
There's a moment I think where he's sort of calculating.
And he's also not going to tell her.
No, no.
I would, you know, we don't really, we don't really talk to.
No, I mean, it's like about the cheating I mean until.
No, of course.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So, I mean, we don't really talk to, I was thinking about this this week.
We don't really talk to celebrities or interviews or anything.
We actually got an offer to.
to interview Jeremy Piven for that primitive war.
We did, it's true.
You got that he was out, did you?
No, you told me about it.
Oh, did I?
What if we just, what if we did it?
And just every question was like,
but what would Ari Gold think about that?
That's right.
What slurs would he use to his assistant?
But I would love to know, like, when you, as an actor,
like I would love to talk to Zendaya and Robert Pattinson and Alanaheim and Mamudu
about, like, when you get, what were they told?
Yeah, like when you get that script
Does it say Charlie lies
And says that this is the thing
Or are you allowed to
As an actor you're allowed to make up your own mind
And then play the scene
As if he's telling the truth
Or if he's lying or what have you
Or do they just say, just say the line
Yeah
Doesn't matter
People will think about it on their own
I know Robert Pattinson
Like he isn't
He's famously a liar also
True he's famously a lie
But he's not method
Right yeah I don't think so
Yeah so I don't know whether he would
I feel like if he did
build this like this inner story for himself i don't god he's interesting i like him a lot yes
unless he did something crook in which case when i'm also so yeah so yeah so oh you were talking
about rachel how she's also yeah so i also think that maybe her story is also a lie and that
she actually like because oh it's something much worse happened with his kids because her story again is
she she a slow kid followed her into the forest yeah and then they went they found a rv or something
like that or a caravan and she locked him in the cupboard and then she left she ran away.
Yeah.
And then later she goes, oh yeah, they found him.
It was fine.
Yeah.
I don't think they did.
I think he might be dead.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah.
But again, all these things are.
They're open to interpretation.
They're open to interpretation and all these things people, they actually did.
Yes.
But they're all kind of, you know.
Do you think so out of all of them, they think she was, Zendai's character, Emma, was the one who
was the most honest?
Yeah.
And she was also like.
She's very up.
front about what do you want to know about this?
Yeah.
This is why it happened and...
And she's also, she's made, she made amends and she campaigned against gun violence and that
was the interesting thing I thought, which is why, and I feel like if I was in that
scenario, I think that's, you know, depending on your perspective or your own personal
experience, it feels like a very forgivable, understandable kind of moment in a person's
life.
I think people watching this outside of America, a lot of people are saying that.
Maybe that's what it is.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And again, yeah, you're right.
Like not having any person.
personal experience with anything even close to that.
Yes.
And they even make a point in the movie that like, well, there are, there's school shootings
every day, the mass shootings every day.
How many must people, how many must get planned and then don't happen?
Yeah.
And what does that, does that, what does that mean for that?
So there's, these people around us all the time.
Exactly.
There's thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands.
I don't know, people who are like that.
Yeah.
Who haven't done it and then either made amends or buried it or whatever.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I don't, yeah.
But anyway, it's a good, good movie.
It's great.
I love how it unravels at the wedding as well.
It all comes out about him and how he cheated on her and whatever.
And then there's a...
Because in a way, this is the worst thing.
Because again, that's interesting because maybe he's never done anything bad at this point.
But this is, this is the worst thing he's ever done.
And it's happening now.
Yeah.
I think the meat cute was, or even like, their meat cute kind of indicates that he's not on the level a lot of time.
He is a liar.
Because, again, if you haven't seen it, why you're listening to this, but the meat cute is,
he goes to a coffee shop to order a coffee, he sees Zendaya.
Yeah.
I think she's very pretty and wants to talk to her.
Because she's Zendaya.
Yeah, exactly.
That's right.
Hey, Zendaya.
She looked as ugly Zendaya.
She looks like Zendaya.
And she's reading a book.
So he goes on the good reads and just reads like a brief summary of it.
Not even, maybe.
Not even, yeah, yeah.
Or just reads a review that's like, this is very evocative or whatever.
And then he just goes up to her and attempts to make conversation
about the book that he's never read.
And then it turns out he has to do it again because she's deaf and one again.
He was talking into her death.
And she's like, do it again.
Let's start again or whatever, which I thought was interesting.
I also think what was a really realistic portrayal of this is like their relationship,
not just in terms of how it falls apart.
But it felt very genuine, very real and very loving.
Like their chemistry together and the way it builds and how they feel about each other,
Even, you know, again, when it's falling apart, it feels really genuine and nice.
It does.
And like, when it's, when it's falling apart and there's the moments where it's like, you know,
we've had this bad argument, but we're still together, but how do we get through the evening kind of thing?
Like, that felt very realistic, you know what I mean?
Great stuff.
The drama.
The drama.
Seed in Cinema, the director's crook.
Apparently.
Not apparently.
It seems very evident that that is true.
True.
I also watch the Malcolm in the middle reboot episode for revitalising.
I was going to say one more little fact.
Let's do it.
So Rachel's cousin, Sam, who's in the wheelchair,
she was played by Anna Berishnikov.
Is she related to Mikhail Berishnikov?
Yep, it's her dad.
Oh my God, nepotism at its finest.
And he was in sex in the city.
He was the sex in the city guy.
Yeah.
He took Carrie to France.
That's right.
Yeah.
Oh, and I loved a bit where we mentioned the photographer.
where she's planning out.
Charlie's just learned about Zendai's worst day of a life.
And the photographer's like, and we'll shoot you and we'll shoot the parents and we'll shoot.
We shoot your parents if they're available.
Yeah.
Shoot your grandparents if they come in.
They're not coming in.
Okay.
There's also a bunch of flashbacks or forwards or whatever where that are surreal and more
imaginings.
There's like he imagines that there's a mass shooting at his wedding.
Yeah.
He imagines that he's walking along with the teenage version of.
Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of that. Yeah, going on. Yeah. Anyway, to drama. It's some weird
horny gun stuff. There's horny gun stuff. He's got a horny gun book for some reason.
Yeah. Where did you get that horny gun book? I don't know, man. Put your horny gun books away.
I think of the horny gun book store. Yeah? Yeah. We don't have those in Australia.
No, we have horny gum boot stores, which are different. Yeah. Anyway, Malcolm in the middle.
Revitalization was pretty solid. Okay. Everyone's good. I feel like... Not everyone's back, right?
No, the actor played Dewey's not back
so they recast him and he's mostly over Zoom
Which I feel like they did just in case he came back
At the very last minute
That is apparently...
Which makes sense but it doesn't really affect it
I think it being only for
There's certain other interactions you would have like to say
Oh, this character didn't spend any time with this character
Whatever, it's definitely. Did Wilson come over the fence finally?
Wilson didn't come over the fence, no
Unbelievable, that's not RRRRRRRRRR I agree
Of the revivals I think Scrubs is the best
Okay
But this is pretty solid
Solid revival.
New scrubs, by the way.
Check it out.
The last episode in particular,
very, very good.
New scrubs.
Have you new scrubbed?
I haven't watched any new scrub.
I know you recommended it a couple of weeks back.
You should scrub. I tell you that much myself.
Come on, man.
Hey, I don't mind telling you the truth.
If anything, I think I'm doing you a favor.
Come on, you know I'm allergic to soap.
Come on.
You are not allergic to soap.
You're not.
I know you're not.
I've seen you use soap begrudgingly.
Yeah, that's right.
Being hosed down outside of a restaurant or whatever.
Um, because see, I saw her,
a couple of reviews that were like,
there's no room in modern entertainment
from Malcolm in the middle anymore.
Who's saying that?
I don't know, variety or something.
No, man, it's fine.
Don't worry about it.
I think it could, it seems like it could definitely lead to more.
It's probably rating very well and whatever.
And people on the whole, I think, seem to like it.
Yes.
But maybe it is one of those things where like, maybe you just leave it.
You know?
Like, it's pretty good.
Leave it.
But also, maybe it'll get a full season.
It was called Malcolm in the middle, colon, maybe just leave it.
Don't worry about it.
Maybe just leave it.
Malcolm
What's Malcolm up to?
What's he doing?
He runs a murder factory for murdering children.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Sorry, he took it over.
He didn't start.
Is that better or worse?
That's worse.
No, he's credits some kind of algorithm kind of system business where like he takes
food like charity, like leftover food from like supermarkets and distribute them to different charities.
So he's like doing good work.
Okay.
But he's also been actively avoiding his family for decades.
And they don't know he has like.
a teenage daughter or
and his teenage daughter as well
I don't know who the actor is
plays like a version of him
younger and she can talk to the camera
or whatever and she's quite good as well
it's always hard when you introduce a new character
into like an interesting cast of but a lot of characters
but I think she does a really good job so does
they have Malcolm has a non-binary
simbling who's still in high school
who was I think just announced
that they were pregnant at the
end of the last season
I can't remember I don't think I made it all over
and Brian's Cranston's character
has a little alien a little float
ailing around his head, voiced by Aaron Paul.
That's correct.
Yeah, that only he could see.
That's right.
There's a Finn Wolfhards in this.
Oh, okay.
Which is good.
But what's the name of the...
Like, Brian Cranston's incredible.
What's the name of the actor who plays the mom?
Brian Cranston.
No, Mason.
James.
Casmaric.
Yeah, she's incredible.
She's so good.
Like, she's always been incredible.
But yeah.
Good.
Great.
Good.
Check it out.
Yeah.
There's always an underrated female actor,
like a comedic actor in a sitcom like this
where people don't,
they're like, well, she must be funny by accident.
You know, there's this and there's in 30 Rockets.
Oh, she is funny by accident.
No, I think she's doing her good job.
Oh, it's Tina Faye.
Yes, exactly.
What's her name?
Oh, Jenna.
No, that's the character's name.
Yes.
I say it every time.
Jane.
Jane.
Plain Jane.
No, because I've...
No, we are the problem.
No, we're not the problem.
I've thought about it.
We're not the problem.
Jane Krasowski.
Yeah, there we go.
Krikowski?
Yes.
Terrible.
of you.
Thanks, man.
I'm great.
We investigated internally.
We're not the problem.
Should we do letters?
Let's do letters.
Letters.
The classic one was,
Letters, oh, letters.
Letters.
We love you.
So letters.
Letters.
Letters.
Nice.
Hey.
Hey, oh, letters time, everybody.
If you got a letter,
we can plan a pot at Gmail.
If you've got a letter, it's letters time.
Get it in now.
Now's the opportunity.
Now's the chance.
The last opportunity.
This window is closing.
I mean, currently we have zero letters.
So, oh, no, three excellent letters have come in.
Wow, and I'm looking at the planet broadcasting great mates group,
but there's a thread every week, and I'm also seeing a bunch of good letters here.
Good on us.
I agree, good on us.
And good on the letter writers, I say.
Here's an email from Jeremiah.
Jeremiah was a.
But then he says from Carl.
Carl.
So I don't know what this guy's here.
Jeremiah was a Carl.
Nice, good.
That's good.
Was it together.
What are these people that are like, their whole deal?
Some people have two names.
I guess that's true.
Yeah.
Get over it.
I won't.
Get over it.
Jeremiah or Carl says,
recently found myself dreading the inevitable Kurt Cobain biopic,
as I'm a big Nirvana fan,
but have zero faith that it would be good,
which got me wondering,
is there anyone I actually want them to make a biopic about?
What about you?
Michael Jackson.
Come on, man.
No, you don't.
No.
I would like to see that Fred Astaire biopic,
except for the fact that Fred Astaire
apparently didn't want a biopic to be made about him.
Oh, okay.
But it was going to be...
Who was going to be in it?
Tom Holland.
That's right.
I think Tom Holland would do a good job because he's a song and dance man.
Yes.
Life on his feet, just like Fred Astaire.
I think that would be fine.
But, exactly.
There is a Kirkabane, it's not really a biopic, but it's a Gus Van Sant made one in 2005 called Last Days.
Okay.
Which is a Kirkabane.
Spelled D-A-Z-E?
No.
Cucabane.
Right for a remake then.
Style kind of dude.
Oh, I see, right.
Like a Lewin Davis.
Yeah.
So it's not Bob Dylan, but it's...
I mean, look at the, look at the imagery.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I mean, yeah, I would like that, but if they don't want to do it, don't do it, obviously.
Yeah, Kirkabain, Michael Jackson?
No.
Michael Jackson?
No, I don't want that.
Yeah.
They are out in force.
Yeah, I know.
The protect Michael Jackson crew.
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
You didn't even do anything.
You didn't even know.
He just paid people off, like, millions of dollars because he didn't do it.
And it's not like he could have just, like, kept the legal defense going forever indefinitely
if he wanted to prove his innocence, which he is.
Crook bloke
Should we see it for the show?
I kind of want it
No, I don't want to
Just to be like
You can watch it
You can watch it for the
What we read
And what we're gonna read
Segment
I guess I could
Yeah
Yeah
And guess what I'm not gonna watch it
Well some people are better
Than others aren't they
Yep
It's me better than you
It's me better than you
Yeah yeah yeah
I just think it's really interesting
Also that they had to
They talked about it
Last week
We didn't
It came out
That they spent
$15 million dollars
On reshoots
Because
And it stops
Just in the early 90s
Just before
The first
allegations behind public, which is, you know, interesting.
Very interesting.
Anyway, it was a question.
Is there anyone you'd want to buy a pick?
Yeah, I'd do a Kirkabay, might if it was done well and good and whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But what kind of biopic is it?
Is it like, it seems like more...
Is it being made by the remaining members of Nirvana?
See, that's the thing.
Is it being produced?
Yeah.
Inevitably, it has to be produced by people who were there at the time, and it's like,
are they going to make themselves look really good?
Sure.
There was a Kirkmane documentary a few years ago
Don't do anything bad, Kurt.
Don't do anything bad, Kurt.
Well, it seems by all accounts that he was nice.
I agree.
And I hope that ends up being true forever.
But yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I'm not a huge music box,
but I like the ones that are more day in the line.
It could be a different.
It doesn't have to be a musician.
No, it couldn't be.
It could not be.
But I like the ones that aren't like just skip over the key events in their life.
Yeah, right.
And just be like, take a window off time and kind of do that.
Yeah.
The out and John one skips around a bit, that's quite good.
Anyway, I'm not a huge fan in general of the biopin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'm not chomping it to the bit.
I still have to see that Robbie Williams one where he's a monkey.
Anyway, I've got a letter.
Go ahead.
Thank you, Jeremiah was a Kirk.
Kurt?
Carl.
Carl.
This is from Jay.
Or maybe it's Carl Cobain, his brother.
Carl Cobain.
No wonder he didn't want it, the biopic done.
No doubt.
Because they'd probably erase Carl Cobain from it.
No, I wouldn't like that.
No, exactly.
Jay says, hey James and Mason, how do you feel about canonical tying comic books to movies?
I think Marvel have the perfect opportunity with Doomsday to explore things in comments we haven't seen in the events of the movies such as Sam Wilson forming the Avengers team,
Dr. Doom's backstory, Daredevil during the Blip and others I haven't thought of, etc.
It would be a much cheaper way to have an audience to experience these stories than another movie or TV show,
and it could be a great entry point for comics.
Personally, I'd love to see some time comics throughout the blip like Hawkeye has roan and the Secret Avengers Mission Civil War and some other examples.
That's interesting because Alex also wrote and a letter that said,
what do you think Marvel needs to do for comics to bring them on par with the DCU?
I don't think tie-in comic, because again, they're not canonical to the Marvel comic book universe.
Yeah.
They used to do more tying comics to the MCU, and then they overwrote some.
I remember there was a Gomorrah one which they...
There was, I think, an Iron Man one, the Viva Las Vegas one,
when he fights Finn Fang Fum, the giant dragon.
But is that, I don't think...
I can't remember if that's canon anymore.
I mean, probably not.
Yeah.
Okay.
No, no, man.
No?
No.
Stop with the MCU synergy in the Marvel universe.
But you don't even think...
Let the Marvel comics be the comics.
Well, what do you think about a little bonus thing for those people who want a little bit more insight?
Fine.
You can have it.
I'll grant it.
You're going to do it.
But you...
But what if that's like bringing Marvel back in general.
You know, because the comics are...
Constantly rebeerting.
Well, that's part of it.
Yeah.
Not doing as well.
as the DC staff, sales-wise, etc.
Stick to an idea.
Yeah, that would be nice.
Yeah.
Stick to an idea, let some creative...
See, what I think the problem is,
is that they love resetting back to the status quo every time.
And the cycle of that keeps getting shorter and shorter and shorter.
And I think the reason that the MCU has been so popular
is because there were so many great stories to draw from from the comic book,
sometimes in name only.
Yeah.
But sometimes, you know, quite a lot.
and if you keep resetting and going,
how about a five-issue series
where Iron Man loses his business,
then he gets his business back
and he builds a new Ironman suit.
Great.
But like, let him do some more interesting stuff
and then maybe you can adapt that.
Right, okay.
Yeah, or not.
You're going to run out, you're running out of stuff.
You already did the Winter Soldier and Civil War.
What are you going to do, Civil War too, maybe?
Maybe.
Yeah, maybe.
Got another letter, Mason?
I do his name off from Brennan.
Brennan?
Hello, boys.
I saw Project Hail Mary last week.
I had an experience that I feel the need to share with the whole world.
And since the whole world consumes your content, I figured I'd email in.
My local theatre has assigned seating.
I was sitting in my usual choice.
And with about 20 minutes left in the movie, an older woman,
and who I presume was her granddaughter came in the theatre.
She comes over to me and fairly loudly tells me I'm in her seat.
I tell her that the movie is almost done and that this is my seat.
She then proceeds to tell me that they showed up early for the next screening
to ensure they got a good seat.
Again, I must stress that this theatre has assigned seating.
As quietly as possible, I tell her she'll have to wait.
She asked if they can sit next to me while I do so.
I should have lied and told her that my wife was sitting next to me
but my brain misfired and I said, sure.
She then spent the final 20 minutes of Project Hail Mary
asking me questions about what was happening.
As the credits rolled and I got up to leave,
I realised that the employees of the theatre would ask her to leave
in order to clean before the next screening.
I did not inform her of this.
Good.
What would you have done in this scenario?
Did I do the right thing?
Cheers from America.
Sorry.
Brendan.
I think it's okay at that point.
I mean, she's confused, obviously.
But she's also with somebody.
Her granddaughter.
To be like, you can't sit next to me.
Don't talk to me.
It's acceptable.
Yeah.
I think some people just, I think some people have been on this earth for too long.
Oh, yes.
And in addition to that, and it's not just boomers, but it is.
There's this sense of like they feel like they still, they still have anything
relevant to contribute or to say and you have to listen, you can just shut them down.
You can just be like, stop.
You put your hand, stop.
You handled it well, you were nice.
That was probably the nicer thing to do.
But God, you're a patient man.
Absolutely.
Fucking full credit, man.
Fuck that.
That, I hate everything about that.
Absolutely.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
Anyway, what do you think?
Get in your fucking grave.
What are you doing?
All right.
Well, I mean, I can tell you I would have shut down any questioning.
You're good at that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've got a vibe that says stop asking me questions.
I thought they were going to be on their phone, which would have been bad.
But that's way worse.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
I bet they were coming into watch that movie, too.
So they just got 20 minutes of the same movie.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no, they would have.
I mean, it would have been the same theater.
I wonder if she just had like one of those, like, that mental break of like,
because that's what people used to do is they,
they would just pay 25 cents for a ticket and they would just walk in.
Yeah.
And they'd watch the end of a movie and then the start of the same movie.
Like it would just go through and they would just figure it out from context.
Yeah.
Like that was an old, like a genuinely thing people did.
Yeah.
In the 50s or whatever.
Sure.
So maybe she just had a brain freeze and went, okay, I'll do that.
Yeah, mate.
But look, that's fine.
But you don't ruin somebody else's entire experience because you're a moron.
But then again, you're a moron.
You don't know you're ruining anything.
That's true.
drifting through life being annoying.
And everybody else has to bend to your will.
Correct.
Yeah.
You can tell someone to shut up.
That's fine.
It's so true,
is it.
Totally fine,
acceptable.
You could have said they,
I mean,
I guess maybe you could have,
I mean,
this is all like hindsight.
Well,
they're going to clean the cinema afterwards.
You're going to have to leave anyway.
Oh,
then you have to think of that in the moment.
You don't know that they're going to stay and sit next to you.
You'd have to anticipate,
you'd have to know the whole,
everything that was going to happen.
That's true.
You'd have to know the future,
which we know.
We know now.
Yeah,
So, I mean, you know.
You added it well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So if this once in a lifetime thing
happens again,
yeah.
You know,
go away.
Go away.
Yeah.
Love that.
Well,
we've got one related to Project Al Mary.
Adam says,
since Artemis 2 just completed their moon flyby,
which are favorite piece of 20th century era
space flight media.
For me,
I'm loving for all mankind on Apple TV.
I absolutely adore the album,
The Race for Space by the band Public Service Broadcasting.
Interesting.
Not for me with that.
I mean, sunshine, we both love.
Race, I mean, event horizon.
Yeah, sure.
Sure, sure.
Sure.
Yeah, for all mankind's really good.
And that's the parallel universe.
Yes, where things are slightly better.
Interesting.
Just slightly?
Just a little bit better.
My understanding is that is keeps going because Jeff Bezos really likes it or something because
it's on Amazon, right?
No, it's Apple.
Apple.
Oh, it's Tim Apple.
Tim Apple.
Hi, I'm Tim Apple.
Hello.
I don't believe in anything.
I'm Tim Apple.
I'm Tim Apple.
I've never had a good idea.
I'm Tim Apple.
What about different colors on the iPhone?
Actually, I didn't even think about that.
Orange.
Didn't he recently released, they released a Macbook that people like, this is a good one or whatever?
Maybe.
Yeah, whatever, man.
Because it's cheap.
Yeah, good.
I mean, that's good, I guess.
Good on your Tim Apple.
That's right.
Real man.
Real normal man.
Yeah.
Space-based media.
Red Wolf.
No, there's got to be.
I mean, there's been some 20th century.
Oh, 20th century.
Okay.
Was this the 21st century?
Oh, that's a great point.
We're the 21st century.
That's true.
We are in the 21st.
Does he mean the 21st?
Maybe.
Because the things that he referenced, like for all mankind, that's the 21st century.
And so is Artemis 2.
That was a 21st century thing.
That's true.
Did you see first man with Ryan Gusslang?
No.
No, I didn't say that.
Apparently that's good.
He was busy that day.
He was filming Project Halmer.
Was he?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Damn.
At least he told you what he was doing.
Parallel thought.
Parallel thoughts.
Yeah.
I think we've thought of enough.
Yeah, the Martian's good.
The Martian is good.
It's a nice people solving problem.
I didn't like how thin he got.
It's upsetting.
He didn't really get thin.
That was using DVD technology to make him look thin.
DVD technology.
He's one more email.
I got one too.
This one's from Daniel.
This is from Daniel from Kyoto, Japan.
In last week's episode, you discussed video game movie adaptations
and whether you should take a game that is narrative-based and then make it from that,
or do you take a bare-bones-nobody and then extrapolate from a story.
I think we did this recently.
Yeah, we talked about it.
Yeah.
Is he saying we talked about...
Yeah, he's saying we talked about it, James.
That's the first part.
There's a 20...
The 2023 Japanese indie game,
exit 8.
Yes.
A simple anomaly detection horror game
with no story spawned a movie in 2025,
exit 8,
that is January brilliant.
I saw the trailer to this prior to the drama.
Yeah.
So this is coming out in Australia soon.
It extrapolated on tiny pieces of gameplay law
into a truly heartfelt and moving narrative
that left me astounded.
I think it's the best video game movie adaptation to date.
Please check it out.
I'm going to. I saw the trailer and was like, this seems interesting.
I'm not seeing any session times. Maybe they haven't put it out yet.
That's from Daniel.
Oh, 23rd.
Can I be the official guy who abandoned his previous life and moved to Japan, but is a loser there too of the podcast?
Yes, you may. Yeah. Good for you.
Yeah, I'm excited for that one. Luser in two different countries.
That looks cool. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know. I saw the IGN review and they were like not very good.
Intra. Because there's another one come. There's another similar, the back room.
Well, the back room looks very interesting. The guy directed is like 20 as well.
Yeah, because he came up with a concept, right?
No, that was me.
Interesting.
Liminal Spaces.
Love that.
Yeah, because is it a copy pastor or something?
It might be, yeah.
Like a spooky Reddit thing or something?
Got Mark a Duplass.
Your friend Limmer should create a blog called Liminal Spaces.
Do you think he should, though?
I think he's busy doing his other job.
Like, you know.
No, you should quit that.
Okay.
And she'd create a blog.
That big finance job that he does that ruins economies or whatever.
Absolutely.
She quit that.
I think he quit that.
You think he shouldn't quit that?
I think he should.
No, you shouldn't.
I got one more.
I know you have to head off Mason.
Luke says,
I recently bought over 500 comics from a guy on Facebook marketplace.
Friotic comics.
So profound comics that easily triple the return of my investment,
including the current very hot debt of a 131,
a.k.
The first appearance and origin of Bullseye.
Do either of you own these super cool, rare collectible items?
No.
No.
I do have,
I recently bought a version of the Dark Night Returns
where each individual copy is hardcover.
Yes.
We're talking about it's coming up on a big sandwich.
So that's...
Looks good.
Yeah.
So I like,
I don't have anything that's like collectible,
but whenever I buy a version of something,
I want to get like,
not even the best or the most expensive,
but the one,
I'm like,
what's a cool version of this?
I like the idea that someone has a collect,
like they have a rare thing,
like that it exists and it's been preserved,
but I don't need to have it.
Yeah.
You want somebody else to enjoy that.
I think I've told you before,
but when I was a kid,
I was,
when I was a kid,
I loved Transformers,
of course. And then as like a teenager, I'm like, when I get grown up money, I'm going to collect
every transformer. I'm a big shelf with all the transformers on it. And then one day I'm just like,
oh, people do that. And here's their collections. And everybody's, you know, there's a big database
online of all the toys and people are photographed them from every angle and these videos
are transforming them. And all the release dates and all the information and all the, you know,
the information about the, you know, wrongly colored ones that are more valuable, whatever. And
there's a photos of them. And I'm like, no, I don't need to collect anything anymore.
Like somebody's done it. So it's fine.
Yeah.
The weight is off my mind now.
It doesn't matter to me.
Thank God.
What if they die, though, and all their stuff gets, like, dragged into a swamp.
That'd be fine, too.
You can go out of the swamp, I guess.
I could go out of the swamp.
That's the long game.
I just wait till all this stuff's been dragged into a swamp, and then I get it out of the swamp.
I get it out of the swamp.
I love her you're a swamp man.
Yes.
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The mummy.
Spooky the mummy, but not fun the mummy.
No, apparently it's awful.
I know.
Not in a bad way, but maybe.
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But in a scary gross way.
That's gross.
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Oh, yeah.
Okay, excited for this.
This is going to be good.
Yeah, so we'll talk about that next week.
Nice.
Mason will probably also see the Michael Jackson.
I'm not going to see it.
I don't want to.
Don't you like Michael Jackson?
Not really.
Yeah, me neither.
Yeah.
Cool.
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