The Weekly Planet - 618 The Drama & The Boys Final Season (so far)

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

The Boys are back in town. For their fifth and final season, we talk the first two episodes. Plus we review The Drama, the somewhat controversial A24 film starring Zendaya and Robert Pattinson. And of... course there's the news of the week including a shift in direction for Avatar 5 & 6, the surprising ratings for the Disney Plus She-Hulk series, the return of Luke Cage and Iron Fist for Daredevil: Born Again Season 3, an announcement for Extraction 3 and the first trailer for the MCU Special Presentation, The Punisher: One Last Kill. Thanks for listeningNew bonus booque clubbe episode for The Dark Knight Returns out now! Including fully edited video version PLUS entire backcatalogue including ad-free feeds and early access on https://bigsandwich.co/Is James allowed to have parallel thoughts? Vote here: https://forms.gle/jMZh6e55nkdEszPx6PLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start05:05 Avatar Films in Trouble13:38 Metal Gear Solid Movie18:54 Best MCU Disney Show Reveal24:03 Returning Characters in Daredevil S325:58 Extraction 3 Announced28:13 The Punisher: One Last Kill Trailer31:43 The Boys Final Season (so far) Spoiler Review45:26 The Drama Movie Review51:05 The Drama Spoiler Segment01:02:09 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read Cont.01:06:00 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The weekly planet, the weekly planet. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the weekly planet. We're talking movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James Oswald and is Mr. Sunday with Ms. Eisenberg, Mason. This week, I'll be low energy. Were you? Yeah, we'll swap roles. Why can't I be low energy?
Starting point is 00:00:16 You could both be low energy. You started out, did you just use all your energy? That was all my energy. Oh, then we can both be low energy. All right. I mean, all right. It seems like you've still got a little bit of energy. Don't be full, Mason.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Okay. That's a common trick that you've fallen for. Yes. The common and normal trick that happens. Mr. Podcast trickster over there. Thank you. Do you know everything's happening all the time? I did know that.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I'm exhausted. I'm knackabiding. That's why I'm so low energy. Are you? Yes. This seems high for you. Come on, man. You're putting in some effort for once.
Starting point is 00:00:48 No, I disagree. I would never do that. That would betray my principles. And what I swore to you, I swore an oath. You did. I started this podcast. Yeah. I said, nah.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I mean, sort of half-heartedly. Yeah, I said, no, man. Come on, man. Your hands were just by your side. Yeah. Just loose. That's right. And you did the thing where you go to tap the sword on my shoulders and I just fell over.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I was like, typical. Typical, I said. It's true. I guess I'll be on the best podcast, I said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you make that happen. You make it the best, Mason. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Yeah. So we're going to talk the first couple episodes of the last season of the boys this week, aren't we? That's right. Or as we call it, Da Boys. Yep. But in addition to... But it's not the last...
Starting point is 00:01:30 It is the last season. But we're not talking about last seasons of the boys. And we're talking about the last. Spoiler, this is the last season of the boys. There's also vaught spin-offs and genevary. Prequels and World War II stuff. If you think this is over, you're an idiot. Did you think the Walking Dead was over when Rick Grimes exploded out of a helicopter
Starting point is 00:01:53 or whatever happened to him? You're an idiot. That's right. You got his own spin-off show. I watched the first 10 minutes. Yeah, it's called Rick Grimes in a bucket. Bucket of Rick, it's called. Grimy bucket Rick.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Yeah, that's right. He's trying to make it all the way across the USA. He's going to make some friends and they're going to carry him in the bucket. Yep, that's right. And then he's going to cross that finish line. It's weird. In the first... It's called The Sloshing Dead, because he's in a bucket.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I did watch the first like 10, 15 minutes and he loses his hand in it like he does in the comics. Which one is this? Rick Grimes. No, I know Rick Grimes. I don't know. It's a Walking Dead Rick Grimes-Mishone spin-off. I was like, I'll dip back in. So it's not Dead City?
Starting point is 00:02:29 It might be, but I don't remember And isn't one of them set in France or something? Yeah, it might be, but whatever. I don't know which is which, right? Okay, but he died, is your spot? No, he didn't die. But he fell out of helicopter. He died in the series, but he didn't really die.
Starting point is 00:02:40 He might have fallen out of an exploding helicopter. I don't remember. Okay. But he got his hand chopped off. Yeah, and it just felt like, oh yeah, we'll catch up to what happened in the thing. But it also seems like, oh, now that's just an annoying thing that you've got to put in all future episodes and whatever. He's got to wear that blue glove or whatever all the times. The long, like a really long wrist.
Starting point is 00:03:00 You know how they're like at the stub. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, make it out why you will. But we got some news of the week, don't we? We do it. I guess, though, if, like... This guy doesn't even want to hear the news of the week. If you Rick...
Starting point is 00:03:13 You want to keep riffing. I don't like it. Ricking, we call it, when it's about Rick Grimes. Yeah. If, I guess if you're so good at killing zombies, like if he's a guy who survived one million regular seasons of regular walking dead, I guess you give him an advantage, a disadvantage. A disadvantage rather by chopping his hand off. Sure, okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Well, that's what they did in the show. They're coming a comic or whatever. Yeah. Which you may have finished. Nope. You hasn't finished it? Nope. Has it even read a single issue maybe.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I did because we did a comic club about it. So I've read the first like six issues. Oh, it must be nice. It was nice. Must be. It was. News of the week. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:46 We've done ricking. It's news of the week time, that you said. We call it riffing, but all right. You bring high energy to derail me, it seems. We do have some news in the lead up to the boys. We're going to talk about. Did Avatar 3 make enough money? Apparently not.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Not that will mean for the sequel. We're going to talk about the Metal Gear Solid movie moving forward. Oh. We're going to talk about Marvel's surprising. You won't believe Marvel's surprising best performing show. One of them may, but you won't believe it. It's a bit of clickbait, Sheehog. We're going to talk about the return of certain characters.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Oh, certain characters. For Dead Devil Born Against Season 3, I'll never tell. Interesting. It's Luke Hage and Ironfist. We're going to talk about a next... You're not going to believe Chris Hemsworth next. action movie on Netflix. What's that going to be?
Starting point is 00:04:31 Extraction 3? It's Extraction 3. And then we've got trailers for, you're not going to believe this. Go on. No spoilers here. But it's a one shot for the Punisher. MCU spin-off. We've got a trailer for that.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You're not going to believe it. I'd believe that. Yeah, okay, fair enough. Those are all the things you can or can't believe. Oh, Rob Collings, who edits this. He does time codes. It's right. He puts them right in the description.
Starting point is 00:04:51 If I was going to be high energy for anything, it'd be, Rob Collings doing a bang-up job, editing this podcast, putting in those time codes in the description. And also derailing me. But also, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to put any energy in that. If you were. If I were.
Starting point is 00:05:02 But you're not. I won't. Okay. No worries. Let's start here via the rap. Did you know? This is the title. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Forget the did you know. Don't worry about that. Okay. This is the title of their article. So they're not doing movie news in the lids of like beer bottles or whatever. I miss that, Mason. Oh, yeah. I don't drink that much beer.
Starting point is 00:05:20 When 1.4 billion isn't enough, Avatar sequel is under the microscope is Disney Ways, Franchises, future. Like under the woke. Thank you. Thank you though. Apparently. Should we do a segment called Under the wokeoscope?
Starting point is 00:05:35 Yeah, definitely. And it's going to have an AI thumbnail and it looks terrible. Yes. We're both in it. We look weird and glossy and not like us at all. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yes, we can. And we're breaking through a comic panel or a brick wall or something. We're 100% breaking through a comic panel. Or brick wall. We can do that, sure, yeah. Go all right. Contents to BD.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Doesn't really matter. Doesn't matter what it is. But we're putting stuff under the wokeoscope. We certainly are. Conversations apparently being held to make the next two Avatar films shorter and cheaper. James Cameron. That's just funny inherently. What's that?
Starting point is 00:06:08 I don't know, just the idea of some of the most expensive and long, the longest and some of the, just the longest and most expensive movies of all time, just to be like, yeah, whatever. Could be shorter, could be cheaper. Could be cheaper, yeah. Just the whole idea of like just, just dismantle the very concept of them. The idea that they're long and expensive. Anyway, carry on. James Cameron, the architect of the Avatar franchise,
Starting point is 00:06:34 is apparently questioning if the franchise will continue after the overwhelming financial returns of Avatar Fire and Ash. That's only because it costs billions and billions of dollars. It's also pointed out in this article that if you look at the three movies back to back, it evens out that they've made over $2 billion each. Interesting. Which is the last one didn't make as many billions as the previous two. That's correct.
Starting point is 00:06:52 According to an anonymous Avatar team member, Cameron would have engaged with another project before returning to Avatar 4 if Avatar Fire and Ash eclipsed $2 billion. Now, Cameron is intent on making 4 and 5, which has been... Do you think this is Sam Worlington? Yes. Yeah. Which has been...
Starting point is 00:07:08 He'll talk to anybody. Yeah, he'll bail you up at a party. It happened to me. It's terrible. I was looking at you, making eyes, be like, can you come over and introduce yourself? I was like, no, I want to see how this plays out. And he was like, good-o-there, James. Tell you what, tell you what, this Avatar franchise, I was in trouble.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Not my problem. I got my money on it care. Did he? Like, I guess he would have. Four and five and Sam told me this. They're apparently radically different from Avatar Fire and Ash, which was also not very radically different from Avatar Way of Water. Mate, they're radically diffo, is what he said.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Because he's very Australian. The rat and diffo. They're rado and diffo. Which also two of his mates that he brings with him everywhere. The comparison is apparently that of original Star Wars to the Empire Strikes Back. It's that kind of thing. And so James Cameron apparently has taken this as a personal challenge to reinvigorate cinemas yet again.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah, it's certainly true that third avatar didn't light the world on fire that the first or second one. Which is ironic because it's the firewall. That's what I'm saying. It's irony. No, no, I'm saying that. You didn't make that connection. I made that connection.
Starting point is 00:08:10 You can agree with it after the fact. Can't we both make a connection? Can we have parallel thought? Can this be a deep impact Armageddon thought structure situation? Absolutely not. I think it can be. I think that's fine. Let's leave a poll below.
Starting point is 00:08:23 There it is. All right. Great. it's definitely there. That's good. I would love them to be different. I mean, I liked two and three, but... I mean, what's the...
Starting point is 00:08:33 They've certainly fought whales at the end or whatever. Yeah, I mean... Killed Brendan Gleason twice. Yeah, some... Like, some movies of this ilk, I assume, you've just got a bunch of CGI assets ready to go, and I guess you could just put them into a new thing. But I guess the point, like, Avatar, the idea is...
Starting point is 00:08:50 Push technology. They do it live every time. We'll do it live. Exactly. I'm big Jim. They've also apparently filmed like 20 or 25% of the fourth or fifth movie already. Just put that in. Just put that in.
Starting point is 00:09:01 That's easy. You're saving money, basically. But yeah, you're right. A lot of the technology and assets and that are already there. They basically have to rebuild everything after the first avatar. Yeah. Where's the technological leap though here at this point? Smellivision?
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah, it's Malavision. You put the 25% on screen. Yeah. And then you just cut to Sam Worthington in blue makeup. It's just regular Sam Worthington. And he draws back a bow and he lets it go. And then you cut to the bad guy and it's just whoever, the actor, and it's just, they're in blue makeup or whatever, or it's the army guy, whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Quorich. Quorich. And then he's just hold, you get him to just hold an arrow. And they, you do a whip pan. Yeah, yeah, and it goes, dung! And he goes, ugh! And then he falls off a cliff again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And then you go, end. Question mark. And then the box office will tell you. Yeah, if it's two billion, man. Yeah, yeah, if they make two billy off that. It is kind of wild that, like, a movie can make $1.4 billion. And then they're like, I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I don't know. Based on your previous track record, this is a failure, because you should have made $3 billion big gym. It's also not a merchandise machine, the way that Star Wars or Marvel is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like people aren't snapping up all the different avatar games of which there are very few.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Exactly, once you've got a few blue guys. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Of different sizes. When you do that? When you do that? You want the blue guy with Oakley's.
Starting point is 00:10:17 That's so true, you do, don't you? Yeah, man. Put him in a little tank? Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. A little walking machine? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Brendan Gleason. I'm Brennan Gleason. One of the flight of the concords. I'm one of the flight of the concords. Put him in double pack. I'm double pack. Brin and Gleason, one of the one of the flight of the concords? Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And you push a button and fly to the concord's guy on his back. Flip's over. It's the other guy from the flight of the concord's. Two heads. Flip over.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Look on those power ranges. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good, man. Yeah. You're good at merch. Yeah. No one would buy that. And he says a small man's wets wets wetsuit, please.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yes Because one of them's the fucking water guy Yeah That's what I'm saying This is parallel thought again We both had the same idea No man Come on man
Starting point is 00:11:03 That's a good song Thank you Look up hurt feelings By flight of the concords Yeah And the video clip on YouTube Yeah Ooh nice work Mason
Starting point is 00:11:12 Thanks man Cracking a can Parallel thought again Okay I'll give you that one You did You did have been cracking a can I did Cracking a tiny
Starting point is 00:11:19 I used to just eat the can And they just crush it in my wind pipe Release those juices you know. Yeah, like an emu man. Yeah, I think it definitely does need to be changed up. Yeah, and you do certainly feel the length in these movies. But I mean, like...
Starting point is 00:11:33 It's interesting that if James Cameron sees it as a challenge. Yeah. I like that. Because, I mean, that's sort of so much of his career prior to like, you know, when he was doing cheaper movies like the original Terminator. Like those would have been like an exercise in figuring out the way to do things cheaply and minimum number of takes and quickest amount of time and all that sort of stuff. And so I guess to some degree he's kind of been spoiled by having infinite money.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yes. So he's spoiled little brat with his infinite money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I think he definitely was able to push Disney around prior to this and before that 20th century Fox. But now I would say, now if you're only bringing in two billy, they can push you around because they got more billies. They got more billies.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Exactly. But I mean, how do you, what is, what is, what is, more cheaply is that worse special effects like where you can see the scenes. I mean, if you cut an hour out of each of them. Yeah, that's true. That's that in itself is like, is huge. I mean, maybe that's it. It's just like a, just a tighter script.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. Less. I mean, at this point, we've gone, you know, we've had three movies of like, your family's important. Well, I think it isn't. But you're a human guy or whatever. Well, I could be an alien guy too. Well, now we're all aligned and we're going to shoot arrows at Brennan-Gleason.
Starting point is 00:12:51 again. Again. So you just trim like we're on board. Just have an early scene where they're like, where a big family, we're in love or whatever. Yeah. And then you just do the action.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I think also the gap hurt the last one as well. Yeah. Because like, you know, it had been 13 years or whatever it was between first and second. Mm-hmm. And people were excited to kind of go back and be like, I sort of remember this. But then when it's three years, you're like,
Starting point is 00:13:14 I definitely remember this. I remember this. This just happened, I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. So you know. Yeah, I know. You know.
Starting point is 00:13:20 If you're listening, Big Jim, we know. Yeah, we know. And we've got parallel thought to you. We thought of it. Kind of out of the family stuff. Get rid of it. And stop drinking your cans of coke that way. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Does he? Yeah. Oh, the ostrich thing, the ostrich method. Yeah. I thought you invented that. Sometimes you get big jim's ear. Oh, okay. This one's via THR.
Starting point is 00:13:40 We heard about this a while ago, but there is a metal gear solid movie in the works. Jordan Voke Roberts was working on it for years. He did Kings of Summer and Kong Skull Island, two movies that I really, really like. But apparently, the time of recording this, he hasn't mentioned this, but he's not doing this anymore. And the directors of this are now Zapp Lippovsky and Adam B. Stein. And they did the Final Destination Bloodlines movie from last year, which people seem to like, I don't. They made a lot of money. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a Final Destination movie.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I don't either of mine. Like clip compilations of people getting killed by logs. James, James, those were real. Those were real? Yeah. That came out. And the Final Destination movies, they're fake. This movie got 90.
Starting point is 00:14:19 2% I want to watch this. You don't need to watch it. I need to watch this, Mason. The number four, that was Final Destination 5. That's getting a 64. Even Final Destination 5th. People do love this series. Let's take a break.
Starting point is 00:14:33 We'll watch Final Destination Bloodlines and we'll sit in front of your TV with a huge pile of logs on the top of it. Okay. Sounds good, right? Yeah, let's do it. And they're just being held up with a little piece of strength. All right, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Can we do it? Above a candle. Can we do it? For our ambience. But we're going to do it right now. Okay. Those were pretty good. Pretty good movie.
Starting point is 00:14:52 That was fine. That was good. Had a good time. Me too. Yeah. So is an announcement. Metal Gear Solid was nothing short of groundbreaking cinematic masterpiece that forever revolutionized video games.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Sneaking. We are thrilled and- Boxes. Yeah. Smoking a cigarette. We are thrilled and honored to bring Hideo Kajima's iconic characters and unforgettable worlds to life. This is the director's tour.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Revolver. Ocelot. Yes. Psycho mantis. Psycho mantis. Big Macs running around. Big Macs running around. Reading your PlayStation one memory card.
Starting point is 00:15:25 That's right. Yeah. Raiden or whatever his name is. Yes. Is that his name? His second in the second one? Raiden or Raiden is one of those. Braden.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And then he got his own spin-off move. Yeah. Where he ran around with the sword? Yeah. Metal gear Braden. Breeden! Get down from that metal gear. It's a prequel and he's running for his mom in a shopping center. Braden, where are you?
Starting point is 00:15:49 Should have you? on one of those leashes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little exhalation. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I know people love the storytelling in these. I don't.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I find them, you find them a chore. Painful. There's, they're no doubt, like, amazing, iconic games with incredible set pieces
Starting point is 00:16:06 and obviously a very huge fan page. Dun, dun, dun, dun, yeah. Also, Konomi sucks. Konami sucks. Oh, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:16:13 They, Hideo Kijima broke, broke ranks with them. That's right. They didn't, they didn't, respect his storytelling. But apparently it's not the only Konami
Starting point is 00:16:22 adaptation in the works. Death Stranding is also happening with Michael's... That's not Konofsky. That's not Konami though. Oh, so it's not... That's Kajima production. Sorry, I meant to...
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah, sorry, I meant to write... Yeah. So, this might have been from the article. So it's the article's fault. It's the article's fault. Yeah, that's right, because, like you said, he left. But Death Stranding... So it's the director of Pig
Starting point is 00:16:42 and A Quiet Place, Big New York Shush, is doing that one. I liked that. I like both those movies. Yeah, so there you go. We're going to come. of Kujima Big New York
Starting point is 00:16:50 Shush Oscar Isaac was looked at for solid snake or other snake He's been looked at for all sorts of stuff People look at him
Starting point is 00:16:58 I think he likes that too I think he likes it Yeah He's got a little He's got a sly little look to He's like Lookin are we I'm inside Dylan
Starting point is 00:17:06 Lewis Davis Or whatever aren't I That's right I'm playing a guitar With Adam Driver That's right I
Starting point is 00:17:10 Like what you see Probably Don't mind if I do Don't mind if you do Oh Yeah Okay, Metal Gear. Who else could be a good?
Starting point is 00:17:20 A Metal Gear Man? Metal Gear Man, Mr. Metal Gear. Jacob Allardy. Too tall. Too tall to hide that box. Couldn't fit in the box. Okay. Imagine an actor. Now imagine a standard size cardboard box. Can they fit in the box? No. Michael J. Fox fits in the box.
Starting point is 00:17:33 He would fit in the box. That's what I've always said that about it. Michael J. Fox fits in that box. Get that box, Michael J. Fox. That's right. I don't want to. Matthew Fox. He'd fit in the box. I don't like Matthew Fox. Okay. Justin Timberlake, Dick in a box. Yeah. I'd like Justin Timberlake. but like, I think he's cool.
Starting point is 00:17:48 No, you don't? I think he's cool. Come on, man. Don't you think it's time and he comes back and he's cool again? No, I don't think it is. No, no. We think he's cool.
Starting point is 00:17:57 We're having parallel thoughts. I don't think that's true at all. I don't know. I don't think he's cool. Austin Butler. I had the thought of Austin Butler. But he's everything and everyone. Yeah, and he's not, uh,
Starting point is 00:18:07 he needs to be more grizzled. You can grizzle him up. Yeah, I don't know. Cheak bones too high. Wow. Yeah, that's right. Okay. Do gray Scott.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah, too old. I could be old snake, I guess. But you need young snake as well. Young snake. Yake. Yake. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Anyway, great. Let's see if this happens. How about this? What? Tom Holland. I love it. Yeah, pretty good, right? Tom Holland with a ponytail?
Starting point is 00:18:30 Yes, please. And an eye patch? Yes, please. I've lost me depth perception. I'm going to hide in this box. He'd fit in the box. He'd fit in the box. That's what they say, Tom Holland.
Starting point is 00:18:41 He'd fit in that box. You get him and Michael J. Fox in that box. That's right, exactly. They could play big snake and solid snake. or whatever. Yes. Big boss in Solid Snake? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yeah, man. I should play that remake of three. That's the best one, isn't it? Maybe. Wow. This is by this skate pot. Marble Studios Brad Winterbaum. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:18:59 You familiar with Brad Winterbaum? Sounds like a name you could set your watch to. I'm sending it right now. Brad, wait, I've got numbers on this watch. I don't know. I was wrong. I was wrong, and I'm a man enough to admit it. I thought I could set my watch to the name Brad Winterbaum.
Starting point is 00:19:16 But I checked and I can't. You don't see me embarrassed. I could set an alarm on my phone and then let me name the alarm and I'll name the alarm Brad Winterbow. Okay. Okay. You're going to do that now? I guess. What time are you going to set it for?
Starting point is 00:19:28 Well, I don't work tomorrow until 4 p.m. Nice. You could set up at 3.38. You're baby. All right. So he's a producer over at Marvel and he's development executive, etc. He does a bunch of stuff like that. So, yeah, he's been with Marvel for quite a while now.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Anyway, they were talking about Shee Hulk, and he said Sheehulk is apparently to my Brad Winter Farm 11, what is it? 1159. 11.59 a.m. Whoa. A.m? Yeah. Oh, yeah, because I was thinking midnight.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I am. Yeah. I couldn't set my, I'd get it confused. I couldn't do the Brad Winter Barn alarm. Well, Brad Whitelarm. That's correct, yes. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Should I change it? No, this is good. What you're doing? Don't doubt yourself. She elk was apparently one of Marvel's best performance. Sheeulk, of course. the Disney Plus streaming series. Correct.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Apparently was a hit with the general audience. James, before you go anywhere? Yeah. Should we put this under the woker scope? We can put it up. Well, speaking of, the show was a hit with general audiences, but the discourse online did not reflect that necessarily. So, again, I mean, I liked it.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I was like, I liked it a lot. I liked more than other people at same. Yeah. Also, if you've read, I guess, any of them, my mind. or even like the past 20, 30 years of Sheehawk. That's what it is. Mostly just that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:49 So, yeah, it wasn't perfect, but I like it on the whole. Yeah. Unfortunately, everything else from Marvel is perfect. Yeah, exactly. That's why it took it there. I mean, again, the idea, like the idea that it was making fun of men, not accurate, it was making fun of a certain type of man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And if you're not that certain type of man, wasn't making fun of you. If you're not that certain type of man, that means you should be. And you're doing wrong. That's right. Yeah. He said he'd love to make more, but it's not going to happen. He said, hopefully one day, I know Tediana Mislani is just like, I don't want to do any of this shit or whatever. If they gave her a million bucks to do, like, you know, shop in the Avengers or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Yeah, exactly. I know she was in a bunch of leaked concept art for that, but I don't know whether she's actually going to be in Secret Wars or Doomsday or whatever. I would bet that the character design, like the character model for the Shee Hulk is just different enough that they could use the character without having a pay. or any license rights. Yeah, that's probably true. They just put her in the background. They did with Red Hulk. Red Skull, sorry.
Starting point is 00:21:49 They did, yeah. Well, they did it with Carrie Coon. Oh, yeah, Proxima Midnight. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:54 yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Because they, I think her husband talked about this on a podcast
Starting point is 00:21:58 or an interview or something like that they, they'll like, come back for less money. Yeah, they were like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:22:02 she said, you know, the last one made a billion dollars. If I, if I come back, can I have more and they're like, no,
Starting point is 00:22:07 you should be lucky cinephile Tracy Letts and playwright and so forth. Yeah, exactly. Look at our physical media collection, she said. We could all be so lucky. That's exactly right. Yeah. And he was on an episode of Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Great. Yeah. Another cool guy. I mean, they're different kind of cool, him and Justin Timberlake, aren't? That's correct, yes. Yeah. One is cool than others than the other. I think if I had a complaint about Chiok,
Starting point is 00:22:36 it's that you could have done more, I would have like more of a legal focused episodes. Right, yeah, okay, yeah. You know, just like bringing in, and they did. have a few that like the frog man or whatever yeah do more episodes focusing on like you know villain of the week or hero of the week yeah there was it for a given how many how many episodes were there eight 10 something like that but like yeah no you probably right i don't need the origin or whatever yeah and i guess we don't like they would i guess nine nine i guess they were torn between 22 god trillion years ago i guess they were torn between we need to have her go through this arc
Starting point is 00:23:09 and have it build up to this you know this thing at the end or we could just do funny sitcom style thing of the week. But yeah, and again, like one of the strongest episodes was the Leap Frog episode, which does have Daredevil in it. But it also is intro to the character. There's a part of a legal drama, and then there's a part where she can't solve in the court of law, so then we have to do the action bit.
Starting point is 00:23:33 So that was a very strong episode. Daredevil and no Daredevil. That's right. But it was Daredevil. It was Daredevil. In his ketchup and mustard suit. Also, it was probably expensive. Looked expensive.
Starting point is 00:23:43 You have to have a bunch of Hulk people in it. Yeah, that's, I mean, wasn't there, there's definitely a moment in, maybe a couple of moments in that series where she's like, I'm going to change shape off screen now because it's really expensive to do that. Does she ever change on screen actually? Yeah. Okay. Good. Yeah. Good to know.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Which is more than the Hulk has done in like a decade. Yeah, that's true. Well, speaking of various Daredevil's. Oh, yes. Daredevil, born against season three is currently happening. I'm really enjoying season two. I don't know if you watched it. Me too.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I have, yeah. I liked Borgening in season one, even though I did feel like they've cut some stuff together here. Why is Karen Page not in the scene with anybody else except Mad Murdoch? They've changed a lot of that. The second season feels more cohesive. Parallel thought. Parallel thought. Me and you.
Starting point is 00:24:28 No, no, no. The same. So parallel thought, but you said it first. Correct. I don't think you know what parallel thought is. I don't think you know what parallel thought is. Maybe I don't. Maybe you don't, see?
Starting point is 00:24:39 That was too much energy. Sorry, I'm going to bring it down. You're all good, man. You're all good. Don't worry about it, all right? Thanks, man. Anyway, Born and season three is filming, and on set, we've seen Kristen Ritter is back, who is also going to be back in season two as Jessica Jones.
Starting point is 00:24:52 But we've seen Mike Colter and Finn Jones as Luke Cage and Iron Fist. Correct. Lovely. Great. I do like it. I think Finn Jones, I mean, everyone liked Mike Colter's Luke Cage. And Iron Fist was, I think, the first Netflix series where people went, oh, maybe these aren't great, even though I think there's some good stuff in it.
Starting point is 00:25:10 But I'm glad that he's having another. shot at that. Yeah, and I think their team-ups. I like the, I like the defenders. Finn Jones was also in Luke Cage season two, I think. And I thought they, I thought they had a good chemistry. Yeah. And like, I liked seeing them team up and beat people up. Yeah, that was fun. Put some more Corrie into it. Put some more Corrie into it. Do you see how big Charlie Cox is? Yeah, huge. Jesus. What happened? Is he doing that H-G-H? No. Charlie. Charlie. Charlie. No, Charlie. I remember Charlie the unicorn. No. It's no parallel thought here, ladies and gentlemen. It's right. It's just me.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Twisted in the wind. Plus, Finn Jones said, grab that jam that time. He did. So we're on his side. We are on his side and God bless him. Yeah. So that's cool. That's great. This is what I love. I know people love it when people show up from other things. It's our favorite thing. That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Speaking of people showing up again, Deadline are reporting that Crips, Chris, Chris, Chris Hemsworth will return as Jake Straction in Extraction 3. Wow. What's his, what's his character's name? really. Do you know? I wrote it down.
Starting point is 00:26:15 You wrote it down. But not off the top of your head. No. It's Tracy. You're close. It is a thing. Chapman. It's Tyler Rake.
Starting point is 00:26:25 It's not Tracy Chapman. It's not Tracy Chapman. No. Interesting. Again, it's Tyler Rake. Okay. Yeah. Is it four non-blonds?
Starting point is 00:26:32 No. Okay. Well, he is blonde, isn't he? I don't think he is blonde in this right. I think he's brown. Okay. Is it blind melon? Is his name blind melon?
Starting point is 00:26:41 Again, I've said it multiple times. I don't know whether you're not hearing me or you're just doing a joke. I don't know. I don't even know either. His name is Tyler Rake. Okay, you're sure, though. Because sometimes you write something down and then we learn later you wrote it down wrong. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I did that earlier or whatever. I didn't know about that Kajima thing. Yeah. No, this time I'm pretty sure. Okay. You could say Gin Blossom. Yeah, no, I don't want to say that. No, I don't want to say that.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Oh, it's too good. I mean, it's parallel thought, isn't it? It's parallel thought, isn't it? God, Deb. All right. All right. Tyler Rake. Tyler Rake.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Idris Alba's coming back. From the gin blossoms. From the gym blossoms. He's in the gym blossoms. He's in the gilbers. He's got all these alvers. Yeah, these people. Sometimes they die.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah. But Idris Alba was in two. You correct. Now he's in this. Sam Hargrave is returning to direct. He started like a Captain America stunt man, I think, among other things. So he's directing these. There's also a spinoff in the works.
Starting point is 00:27:35 This movie's probably a couple years away at least. They're always good. I agree. One and two were good. Good. good solid action movies, good oners. Good oners, even if they are fake ones as we don't know. They're funners.
Starting point is 00:27:46 So, yeah, in terms of also Netflix action movies, they're, you know, they're all right. They're better than all right, I would say. That's right. Everybody beat up all those Indian kids in the slum or whatever in the first one? Chris Headsworth. Yeah, just slap and kids. I don't remember that. It definitely happened.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Okay, all right. It's on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. On Netflix. Yeah. And then when he gets shot in the neck, there's a deleted scene where all the Indian kids like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Good. Good. He slapped us. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. And we've got this, of course. Trailers, a hoy.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Honk. Tingling. Yeah. For the Punisher, one last kill. Okay. And before what? Before lunch? One last kill before lunch?
Starting point is 00:28:26 No, I think he's going to be going to wrap it off after this. I don't think he is. What do you mean? Isn't this going to lead into the Spider-Man? No, because this comes out May 12th. This is pre-Spiteman. That's what I'm saying. Oh, lead into it.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I thought you meant after. No. We're having some parallel thought. We are having parallel authority. a parallel thought issue. Yeah. I thought it's too parallel. They might be.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Yeah. So this is the third special presentation that Marvel are doing. What are the other two? Quick name them. Man thing? That's not called Man Thing. Werewolf by Night? There he is.
Starting point is 00:28:54 And the gin blossoms, live in concert. I'll give you a clue. The Running Man. No. Look what I'm doing. The Running Man. No, it's the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special. What is this then?
Starting point is 00:29:05 It's Kevin Bacon. Oh. Footloose. No. Okay. Because he was running in that. I was doing when he was running. Oh.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Like the running man. No. No, not like the running man. This is not parallel thought. Not at all. So it's surprising they haven't done more of these. I agree. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Also, especially when you don't want to commit to a full series, you're like, yeah, give character a little run around like Kevin Bacon. Oh, I see. You know what I mean? Do you think it's one last kill of Kevin Bacon? Maybe. Go get him. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yeah. John Bernthal. Correct. He will start. And he's also co-writing that with. director, Rinaldo. I think he's probably written it by now. Yes, they've probably already done that.
Starting point is 00:29:45 John the synopsis? Yes. Then look it up. You got a phone? No, I don't. No, I don't. You just put Sam Hart. You put, not Sam, out of Graves.
Starting point is 00:29:53 You put that Brad Winterbuck, whatever. Whatever. No, it in his theatre of the mind. I've never owned a phone. That's Frank Castle. You've got two phones. As Frank Castle searches for meeting beyond revenge, an unexpected force pulls him back into the fight.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Kevin Bacon. No, no. You've got to get Ford loose, Frank. Castle? How long do you think this is? It's a special presentation. Hour and 10. It's exactly an hour.
Starting point is 00:30:16 It's stopped for once in your life. You would have been perfect. It's 60 minutes again. It's out, not like the show. It's out May 12th of this year, which is soon. And it's soon. And that leads into Spider-Man. It does lead into Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:30:31 So this should be, should be. Could be good. Could be good. I wish he was bigger. The Punisher. Yeah, this version. Isn't he? Isn't he regular?
Starting point is 00:30:41 Make him big. Oh, like, like a Frankenstein's monster time. Yeah, like a Frankenstein man. Yeah, maybe. Don't you think? Like a Ray Stevenson, big. I think he's good. I like John Bernthal, but he was in the walking down all.
Starting point is 00:30:53 He was Shane. But I think, yeah, you know, it would be good. And then he's in, and then you clean up his act in Spider-Man and whatever. See that scene in, you would have seen it in Dead Devil Borning in Season 1, where the guy puts his arm through the cage and he just, like, snaps his arm. Yeah. Great. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 00:31:09 More of that kind of stuff, please. I would also kind of like more man with a plan because often he just kind of seems to run in and just... What about man with the van? Yeah, he does that too. But, you know, like, it seemed... I mean, did I watch the show? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:31:22 I don't think I did watch the season one of The Punisher, but he's often seems like he's just winging it. He's not, you know, he can, but he'll... Yeah. He's got plans to kill him. Yeah, I wonder if he'll be backerack. We'll find out. I think he died.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Anyway. All right. Let's move on. What are we going to talk about? We're going to talk about some television show Let's talk about television show Let's get into it We're getting into it
Starting point is 00:31:45 The boys The boys final season What are the boys going to become men Good question Would you watch a show called Du Bois to Dement? No Then what are you worried about What do you care whether they're going to become?
Starting point is 00:31:55 Well I'm worried and then I won't be able to watch anymore Once they become men Oh okay yeah That's probably a good point Because you only like watching boys Oh come on Yes
Starting point is 00:32:04 All right But I disagree I don't like that What do you think story was for this particular season. Well, they're in a bit of a pickle
Starting point is 00:32:10 once again, aren't they? Why? Well, they got to put it into a concentration camp. I forgot that, yeah, they did.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Some of them did. Some of them did. Not all of the boys. So some of them in the work camp, but the other, the other half, like, how do we get them out of the camp?
Starting point is 00:32:22 How do we starlight them out of this? How do we start light them out of that dang camp? And Billy Butch has got a squid in him. He's got a, he's full of squids. Yeah. Yeah. He ain't got a quid,
Starting point is 00:32:32 but he's got a squid. It's true. That's a good way to put it. I think so too. Yeah. Go on. And then we get in there. Yep.
Starting point is 00:32:40 You have to get them out, great escape style. Yeah, yeah. And continue to try and figure out a way to kill Homeland. Who's going to show their butt or their penis or their, you know. It's a good question. Yeah, or they, you know, everybody. I hope you're not talking to our listeners because we don't like emails like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Please do not send those. This is not a joke. Don't do it. I don't know why I've even brought it up. But parallel thought probably. Probably that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:04 What's going to be rude this season? What is going to be? What do you see the guy with the mega dong or whatever? Yeah, sure, we do. It looks fake though. Yeah. So you reckon? It doesn't look real.
Starting point is 00:33:13 It doesn't look like his real dog, I don't think. Interesting. Wow. Yeah. You know what? That didn't even occur to me as like a shocking thing anymore. No. That's what's interesting about the boys season five, I think.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I'm like, what's happened that's been shocking this so far this first couple of episodes? I'm like, I can't think of anything. And then I'm like, oh, he got choked to death with his own penis. Yeah, that's true. That would have been a shot. And M. Stabbed his penis. Stab his giant fake penis.
Starting point is 00:33:37 There's a big rock man. Big rock man. Good rock. Ejaculations. Sure, absolutely. I guess that's a shocking thing. These spoilers, I don't know. Should we just do spoilers?
Starting point is 00:33:45 There's two out. There's two out. Yeah, watch what you're like? I thought it was still pretty cool. Yeah, I think it's pretty consistent. I don't think it's the pinnacle of the boys, I think, like, I don't think we're going to hit that again.
Starting point is 00:33:55 It is, it is, and it does. It's that thing of like, oh, you can't really, you can't make this up. How was the stuff in the show? Like, refresh. reflecting reality. And they've talked about how they gave Homelander a speech this season. And it was like, it was so far fest,
Starting point is 00:34:09 but then it was something that Trump said, he's Trump, by the way, I know we've talked about it before. It's not like a, it's a pretty shallow parallel. It's not a shocking thing to put in. But I do,
Starting point is 00:34:21 even though they're like, you can't make this up, how was this reflecting reality? But it's also just like, oh, you know, AI and everyone's a snowflake and there's deep flakes, deep fakes. And there's the deep stakes.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Yeah. And there's a couple. the deep state. There's a secret, yeah, exactly, there's a single cabal or whatever,
Starting point is 00:34:36 and it's like, I mean, you're saying it's reflecting and how do they even, but they're just also taking literal things that are happening in society and just putting him in this superhero universe. So I don't,
Starting point is 00:34:46 it doesn't feel like they're predicting anything. It's just like, oh, this unhinged person said this so we'll get this unhinged person who's got superpowers in the show to say a similar thing at this point, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:56 but that's politics. That is politics, isn't it? And we've solved it. I think we might have. That's not what I was trying to do, but I might have, actually.
Starting point is 00:35:03 I mean, that's how we do these things, isn't it? It's politics. We have a bit of a laugh. Yep. And we solve everything. Yeah, and we might just. And we did. We did.
Starting point is 00:35:11 So we got the resistance consisting of Huey and Staff writer and Frenchie and a talking now. Kimiko. Kimiko. And Butcher. Yes. Billy Butch is back and he's got squids in him or whatever. That's right. Some of the worst squids homeland has ever seen.
Starting point is 00:35:27 It might just, yeah. Can he one V1 homeland or? I feel like he couldn't still. No, I don't think he could still. Otherwise, he would have. He probably would have done it already. Yeah, you're right. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And this is, it's interesting because they, you know, how much of Gen V the spin-off series factors into this? I'm going to say very little. Very little. I think some of the characters are going to appear, but the virus that was introduced in Gen V. Oh, was it also introduced in this show? It was also introduced in this show.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Okay. Well, it's definitely, it was definitely fleshed out more in Gen V is now coming into this. Yeah. As a form of like, well, this is how we're going to try and kill, you know, homeland. It's also interesting that they put. put some teenage superhero characters in this and it's not people from GenV? Correct, yes. I think.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Yeah, no, it's not. Yeah. So, you know, and there's the guy who's like a parallel to the thing. And I was like, oh, how are they going to do like a thing style character in this universe and making him kind of built into a mountain is, you know, a clever way to get around the budget of having a guy like that. Yes, exactly. Moving around the set or whatever, you put you either have to do a big suit or CDO or whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They tried this, the first couple of episodes, they kind of. of, they kind of try to, like, separate Huey and Starlight again? Like, they kind of do the thing of like, well, I don't even trust you anymore. Hmm, aren't we, well, we're different than whatever. Maybe you'll go too far or whatever. I don't think there's any going too far. It's all fine at this point.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I think it's fine at this point. This whole world and universe could burn down. It probably just should anyway, right? I think it will. But does that what I'm saying about our regular universe, you know? Because there's so many parallel thoughts going on. Yeah. So, you know, I think also they,
Starting point is 00:37:03 They kill a pretty main-ish character. Yeah, I'd say main character up top in A-Train. Correct. That feels like a kind of thing of like an anything can happen kind of moment. Absolutely, yeah. Uh-huh, yeah. Apparently it wasn't supposed to happen until like a few episodes in, like episode three. Okay, but then they decided to do a big shock.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Bringing that forward. In episode one, right? Yeah, so it felt like, it did feel in that opening bit that, oh, somebody probably needs to die here for there to be stakes in this. Correct. In this series. And I guess it is interesting that A-Train died. because he avoided somebody, which is how he was introduced,
Starting point is 00:37:36 by like splattering. He did turn Huey's girlfriend in a pace in the first episode too. Yeah, so, you know, there is... Yeah, that's growth. Yes. That's growth. Characters.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And not just a growth that is squids in the body. Which some people have in this show. That's correct. Hughie's, I was going to say, Brothers are Dewey and Louis. That's right, yeah, but in this, we haven't met them yet. But there is like that thing of,
Starting point is 00:37:58 and we talked about this a bit off air. He's had so many terrible things happen to him, and he rattles them off him. in this. Like there is this kind of, there is this kind of water off a duck's back kind of thing to a lot of these characters of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:11 nine terrible things happen to me every episode. Uh-huh. And he's just a regular guy. Yes. And, you know, he's desensitized or he just doesn't care at this point. I guess I'm moving forward because he's also just a guy.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Correct. Yes. Which would be terrified. But there does seem to be, they're definitely kind of, I feel like, and you see it with him talking to Homelander, there's a lack of kind of fear.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Yeah. At this point, because it's just like, we're tired. We're all tired. If you want to laser me, can you just do it, please? I mean, again, reflecting what we're really like in society now. Yeah, that's right. Listen, Mr. President, if you do have a giant laser, is it just laser us. Just stop talking about it.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Yeah. So apparently, well, we've seen his return, but Soldier Boy comes back in this episode. Apparently he's in quite a lot. Yes. For going forward. Even though seemingly, well, I mean, you know, it's already been revealed. But, you know, the, you know, the, they tested the boys who were not yet men.
Starting point is 00:39:06 They've tested, maybe this is what turned him into men, killing all those people in that room. But they tested the virus and the teenage kicks streaming manner place and killed a couple of the villains and also seemingly sultrip boy, but of course he's come back in some form.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Do you think he's zombie like now? I think he's fine. Is he a carrier of the virus? That's a good question. Because I know there's clips of him. him that he has with Jared Paddleck. He's character who's in this. He's also, because Eric Kripki worked on this also worked on Supernatural, which those two
Starting point is 00:39:40 were together. And what's his deal? Is he going to have a, is he going to have a talking dick or a talking butthole? Or is he going to have poop shooting out of his mouth? Or what's his deal? Poop shooting out of his talking dick. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, the poop talks.
Starting point is 00:39:53 We get it. Eric Kripki. We get it. Yeah. So, no, I, um, yeah, that would be interesting if he's a carrier. I think it's. I think it's supposed to just be that thing of like, well, if he's immune, then Homeland is immune. Yeah, so we've got to find another.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah. Because it would be too easy. They're too, you know. I think they're just going to cave his head in. I think so too. Yeah, I think that's, that might weaken him with something like this. Well, I mean, and seemingly also, Soldier Boy still has the ability to take away superclass as well, because he attempts to do it on butcher.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah. Which I think also might just happen to butcher. And so he won't be, have the killer squids in him. more cancer anymore. Yeah. So I think that's a possibility in this. Yeah. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:40:38 he meets his father, doesn't he again or whatever? And butcher. Yeah. And it's the guy from Fringe. It's the guy from Fringe. And also he's Denethor. You familiar with Denethor?
Starting point is 00:40:48 From Lord of Rings? Oh, yeah, sure, Denethor. There you go. There's something that I've taught you today. That's right. But in a way, you know, it's Paroleal. I'm learning too.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah, so it's Parallet Thor. We're learning from each other. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Pretty, I thought, I'm pretty fun. Yeah, it's pretty solid. But I feel like this is a good time to be, if there was another season beyond this, I kind of would be like, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I guess it is interesting that the plane footage from the first season like resurfaces, but also at a time where that could also easily be faked. Correct, yes. Which, you know, reflects reality. AI, deep state, et cetera. Correct, yes. Yeah. But it does also, yeah, it definitely feels like a kind of thing where I don't really think people would care.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah. Like either in real life. or in the show that people like disappear. And of course there are, you know, there are so many homelander sicker fans at this point.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also, or if it is real, you know, well, I'm on board at this point.
Starting point is 00:41:46 You know, it takes a lot for people to jump off board when they're fully committed to, you know, a lunatic. Correct. For example.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Like our listeners. That's right. They committed to, I feel like also like, he is the president right at this point. Correct. It took me a second to be like,
Starting point is 00:41:59 is he actually the president? Well, he's not actually the president. Or he's not, yeah. But the other guy's the president. And the vice president is now... Got a face on the back of her head. Colby Minifie, what's her character's name?
Starting point is 00:42:09 I can't remember. But, yeah, so last season, prior to Gen Ve. So last season, she took the V as in it, like an emergency... She thought she was going to die, so she takes the V. And we see her head mutating. We don't know what it was. So she's gave the ability to read minds, but it's only because she has a giant tumour on the back of her head with her own...
Starting point is 00:42:27 And maybe that reads minds and tells her, yeah. And that... And it's got her, he's because she's now got a second face. Yeah. That's telling her to be a better person. So that's fun. That is interesting. Do you think there's going to be some kind of turn there from her?
Starting point is 00:42:40 I think she's been waiting. The turn will be Homeland had turning a hot later around. Oh, for sure. Yeah. But I think they're, I feel like they have been building towards that, right? Like her, like becoming more and more unhinged and just kind of doing worse and worse things and there has to be a breaking point, I guess, for that for that character. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:57 And it's her neck. Yeah. It'd be nice if Queen Mayve came back as well. Well, I think he's still alive and has an eye patch, maybe. Correct, yes. Yeah. Interesting. You're thinking of Captain Morgan, the rum pirate.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I'm not a Captain Morgan fan of his work or his rum. Okay. Yeah. What do you think the sister Sage thing? Where do you think that's going? Do you think she's just going to get lacered by Homeland or at some point where he just becomes sick of her plans and machinations? Yeah, because I mean, obviously the, you know, the, the gist here is that she's got her own, she's got her own agenda and she's the smartest person in the world. So what is that angle?
Starting point is 00:43:32 Is she going to take over the presidency? Yeah. Is that the plan? Homeland is going to become undone and she's going to be top dog. Sure. Or maybe she's not that smart at all. Well, that's exactly. I mean, because before this, she was like living in squalor and whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:47 So maybe she's not. Yeah. You know? Maybe your power is convincing people that she's the smartest person in the world. I know a few people like that, Mason. Oh, yes. You for example. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Yeah. Yeah, you know. pretty good pretty good it's good it's well made it looks good it's gooey it is gooey yeah yeah it's hewy yeah thanks right yeah you're welcome you don't need to say that thanks yeah that's it's it's yeah that's it i guess okay what else um how many are we getting great question the boys season I mean I mean I know again it is going to be it is going to continue yeah like beyond this as I talked about. Do you think there's any,
Starting point is 00:44:30 is like, there's any, like life in this, beyond this universe, beyond this show, which is better than the comics? Um, yeah,
Starting point is 00:44:43 that's a great, a great question. I mean, do they make a, do they end up making, is this going to end with them making a better world? Or is the world going to fall the pieces, do you think?
Starting point is 00:44:52 Right. I mean, if there has to be like spin-offs, then there has to be something, except for the Vort prequel, I guess, which is, Set in the 50s or whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. God, this started in July of 2019. No, I disagree. No, it has, man. It's gone. It's been a season every two or so years.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Terrific. Since then. Terrific stuff. Yeah, cool. All right, let's move it along, I reckon. Let's move it along. What are we doing? What we're reading?
Starting point is 00:45:16 We can talk about the drama in the what we're reading segment. What we're going to read? We can talk about the drama. Let's talk about the drama. The drama. I'm doing nothing. I feel like this is something that we both have. have more to say about it?
Starting point is 00:45:34 I have a lot to say about this. Yeah. This movie is, uh, it's fueling the discourse. Or at least it has been for a few days. Who knows? Yeah, we don't know what's happened at this point. Probably people have forgotten about it and it's on streaming. And then it's been deleted from streaming at the internet.
Starting point is 00:45:48 That's exactly right. And everybody's been cancelled. Good. I think the director's been cancelled. Oh, what? What for what? I don't know. I don't even know this.
Starting point is 00:45:55 I don't know. Not a current thing, but a past thing, I think. Yeah, that's normally how it works. They normally don't do a new thing. Oh, look at it is a sinister looking, falet. This Norwegian filmmaker, Christoph Borgly. Dream Scenario. He did that one, did he?
Starting point is 00:46:08 Oh, yeah, that was Nichols Cage. I didn't see Dream Scenario. I'm just having a quick quiz. Okay, great, have a quick quiz. Ah. In a 2012 essay, he detailed a relationship with a high school student admitting friends told him that the relationship was not within bounds. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Fuck it. All right. I shouldn't have said anything before we talked about the drama. Well, there's other good things about this movie I hope. Agreed. Yeah. Fuck. So I watch this.
Starting point is 00:46:34 I'm like, I'm like, I hope somebody else is going to watch this and you watch this. Yeah, well, I knew you wanted me to watch it. Correct, yes. And you liked it. I did like it. I also like it. I like it less now. Well, I like it more.
Starting point is 00:46:45 No. No, I don't. That's true. Do you want to do the premise? Well, the premise is that so Zendaya and Robert Pattinson play a couple. They had a little funny meat cute back in the day. And then a couple of years later, they're about to get married. engaged and then they sit with another couple.
Starting point is 00:47:06 They go to that. What's the thing where you go and you test out all the stuff you're going to have at the wedding, like all the food and stuff? Looking at it. Samples. Samples. They're having a sample dinner. Food samples.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And they're pretty drunk. And they're with another couple, their best friends, I guess. I love that little joke where, because they ask for more wine. And they're like, and they're like, we're not a bar. Yeah. There's a little things like that. This is a funny movie. It is.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Yeah. I've had people say, I've seen people say, oh, it's not a rom-com. No. I think it is a rom-com. I mean, not in the tradition. I'm going to say no. It's very dark. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:38 But, well, it's pretty dark. It's kind of funny and there's romance in it. It's kind of death at a funeral without that level of absurdity at the end, I guess. Yeah, for sure, yeah. It's a bit of that. Anyway, they're sitting with this other couple and they've had too much to drink and they've decided to tell each other the worst thing they've ever done. Why would you do that?
Starting point is 00:47:57 And three of them have stuff that is... I thought about that, and I'm like, I think I'm in the clear. Yeah, it's good, isn't it? But then Zendaya's character, Emma, is like, I've got a terrible, he's a terrible thing. Do we, we want to spoil it out here? Or at all? We might have to at some point. Yeah, we'll spoil it later, but I don't think we should say it now.
Starting point is 00:48:16 It's also a difficult thing to, you don't want to spoil it, but there's also people who probably don't want to know about it. Like, they'd rather not watch the movie if they knew about what the thing was. Okay, yeah. But I also think it, but it's interesting. Like, I think it works. through the topic in an interesting way. And I think that that might be interesting even if... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I think it also shows like people at a certain time are troubled for various reasons and people grow and change and better themselves either through, you know, personal growth or just pure chance and just growing up and changing, which I thought was interesting. Yeah. I think both elites are very good in this. Yeah, really funny. I mean, I don't... I only really know Zendaya from the Spider-Man movies.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Challenges. Oh, she's great challenges. I saw Euphoria. I won't watch the new season because who goes. Yeah, I didn't see in euphoria. It's good. I'll see it in one of course. And of course, Robert Pattinson, in semi-goblin mode.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Yes. Like, it's quite charming. He's in the creep zone. It's in the creep zone, that's right. And he's a very good portrayal of a man who is in a very high-stress environment, and he's just unraveling in a bunch of different ways, which I think is. is fun. Good,
Starting point is 00:49:34 good supporting cast, too. I mean, it's quite a small cast. So it's Alana Heim. Yeah. Plays Rachel, who is one of the couple, and who's the other guy, who I've seen in a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. I had, do not recall his name, but I've seen him in stuff recently. The drama cast. The drama castor. Oh, also, this is produced by Ariaster, who once again, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:53 he made Bowes Afraid, he made Eddington. He's, he's, you know, his whole thing is like, or Boe's afraid, actually. Yeah, his whole thing is like, I'm going to make people people upset, I think, in a variety of different ways. Well, this is an A-24 upsetting situation.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Absolutely, it is. So, uh, Mamudu Athi is Mike. So that's Charlie's best man. Uh, just a lot of, this, this has a lot of, uh, just a lot of funny situations. Yeah. There's a, it's, is great in this. Yeah. Did you mention her?
Starting point is 00:50:20 Uh, no. Oh, yeah, that's right. There is a funny, she's, she's got a funny riff going on. Yeah. What have I seen her in recently as well? Uh, she was in, uh, Cruy Sevens is a scumbag. Oh, yeah, materialist. She was materialist.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I don't know. There's a lot of funny situations in this. Like as the secret unravels everything, there's a replacing the DJ thing where we get a new DJ. It's kind of, you know, an old character. The wedding photography bit is super funny.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Absolutely. As these, as she's, the wedding photographer is attempting to get some genuine smiles out of them in like a practice run, even though they're, yeah, something's,
Starting point is 00:50:56 as far as she can tell. Something is up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. is very funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I think it's not, it's interesting because the terrible thing that she does, and they all admit to terrible different things. I feel like it's not, oh, I guess the movie talks about this. Let's get into it right now. I'm going to say best movie ever. It's time for spoilers.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Yeah, same. Here's some extra spoiler space. If you're in the US and you don't want to know what it is, the thing, it's also real pretty early. Like it could be, it's a sensitive topic. topic. Yeah. So, because what did you say about like you kind of would want to maybe know the
Starting point is 00:51:36 spoilers if there's something that it kind of happened to you? Yeah, maybe. It's a very, it's an American thing. Yeah. It's a very American thing. Yeah. And I think the, the, a smart thing that's been done in this movie is that they've kept Robert Pattinson as British. Yes. He's British and he's kind of posh and he's come from money, which is why he has this museum curator job thing that he has. Yeah. Um, which gives him a bit of distance. So anyway, it's time for spoilers. We're doing Spoilers right now. So, and I also think this is interesting that, so Emma, so that's Zendaya's character, her big reveal.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Okay, so, so Robert Pattinson's reveal is that he's cyberbullied a kid. Yeah. So hard that the kid had to move. Maybe. Maybe. Or maybe they just moved. So Mike's reveal is that when he was dating a woman, he used her as a human child when a dog attacked them.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Yeah. And then Rachel, who's Alana Heim's character, her. reveal is that she locked a slow kid in a caravan or like a cupboard in the woods in the woods overnight and then left him there and then which i think in terms of things actually executed is the much worse yeah i mean as a thing that actually happened because zendaya's thing is if it even happened like she said it did sure that's like if any of the others so i think mike's one is genuine because it came out first yeah but then the others so zendaya's emma's reveal is that she as a teenager in high school yeah planned out of mass shooting
Starting point is 00:52:59 She didn't pay it up. She didn't carry it out. It got fairly close. Yeah. And she got obsessed with the culture of it. Yeah. And the notorious kind of fame. And the aesthetics of it and making videos and stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:11 But then another one happened. Like that day close to them. Yeah. And then she was stunned and she kind of saw the... Also it was like maybe she didn't want to do it on the same day. Yeah. Because then one would overshadow the other. But she didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:53:24 She didn't do it. And then, but then... There was a classmate that was killed in it. Yeah. And so she saw what happened to all the people around. And so it sort of shocked her into changing her ways. And then she threw away her father's gun. And also because of a boy and whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And everybody around the table is very shocked about it. But it's also interesting. Yeah. What I think is the whole, you know, the whole bunch of stuff around, it's very interesting. But that initially Rachel is very shocked. Yeah. And she's like, my cousin was paralyzed in a shooting.
Starting point is 00:53:55 But it seemed quite performative. Yes. when she says this. And so all the other reveals are like inherently quite suspect because then later we meet the cousin and she's never met Rachel's husband. Yeah. So they're clearly not that close. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:54:10 So like did she just say it kind of felt like it. It felt like an excuse to be outraged and make it about her and send her on her. And she was like a shooting's never happened to her. Yeah. But it happened to a cousin. So she's going to throw it in it. Like this is the drama. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Like it feels like Rachel is creating the drama. drama. And the same thing with Charlie, who is Robert Pattinson's character, because he's the third one to go with a reveal. And if the worst thing he's ever done. And it sounds like there's a bunch of different ways to read the scene. One is that that's the, that was true. Yeah. One is that it's, he's never done anything bad. Yeah. And he just made something. And I probably sent some Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he made that up. Or the third one is he's done something way worse than that or many things way worse than that.
Starting point is 00:54:59 But he doesn't want to admit it the week before his wedding. Yeah. Like if he says, and based on the events in the movie, I think it is that one. Because if you mean the way that he unravels or the way... Because at the moment, he has like this emotional breakdown at work and then he immediately cheats on his fiance with his woman at work for a second. So I think it's probably that. But he doesn't want to admit he's like a...
Starting point is 00:55:21 Do you mean he's done it to Zend? Or somebody else. Maybe. Maybe there's someone in a previous relationship. Yeah. Maybe to Zendaya. But he's not going to admit that the week before the wedding. Yeah, okay. Because that would be crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Because he does going to go, uh, uh, yeah. Yeah, you're right. There's a moment I think where he's sort of calculating. And he's also not going to tell her. No, no. I would, you know, we don't really, we don't really talk to. No, I mean, it's like about the cheating I mean until. No, of course.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, I mean, we don't really talk to, I was thinking about this this week. We don't really talk to celebrities or interviews or anything. We actually got an offer to. to interview Jeremy Piven for that primitive war. We did, it's true. You got that he was out, did you?
Starting point is 00:55:57 No, you told me about it. Oh, did I? What if we just, what if we did it? And just every question was like, but what would Ari Gold think about that? That's right. What slurs would he use to his assistant? But I would love to know, like, when you, as an actor,
Starting point is 00:56:13 like I would love to talk to Zendaya and Robert Pattinson and Alanaheim and Mamudu about, like, when you get, what were they told? Yeah, like when you get that script Does it say Charlie lies And says that this is the thing Or are you allowed to As an actor you're allowed to make up your own mind And then play the scene
Starting point is 00:56:32 As if he's telling the truth Or if he's lying or what have you Or do they just say, just say the line Yeah Doesn't matter People will think about it on their own I know Robert Pattinson Like he isn't
Starting point is 00:56:42 He's famously a liar also True he's famously a lie But he's not method Right yeah I don't think so Yeah so I don't know whether he would I feel like if he did build this like this inner story for himself i don't god he's interesting i like him a lot yes unless he did something crook in which case when i'm also so yeah so yeah so oh you were talking
Starting point is 00:57:02 about rachel how she's also yeah so i also think that maybe her story is also a lie and that she actually like because oh it's something much worse happened with his kids because her story again is she she a slow kid followed her into the forest yeah and then they went they found a rv or something like that or a caravan and she locked him in the cupboard and then she left she ran away. Yeah. And then later she goes, oh yeah, they found him. It was fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:26 I don't think they did. I think he might be dead. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. But again, all these things are. They're open to interpretation. They're open to interpretation and all these things people, they actually did. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:38 But they're all kind of, you know. Do you think so out of all of them, they think she was, Zendai's character, Emma, was the one who was the most honest? Yeah. And she was also like. She's very up. front about what do you want to know about this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:51 This is why it happened and... And she's also, she's made, she made amends and she campaigned against gun violence and that was the interesting thing I thought, which is why, and I feel like if I was in that scenario, I think that's, you know, depending on your perspective or your own personal experience, it feels like a very forgivable, understandable kind of moment in a person's life. I think people watching this outside of America, a lot of people are saying that. Maybe that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And again, yeah, you're right. Like not having any person. personal experience with anything even close to that. Yes. And they even make a point in the movie that like, well, there are, there's school shootings
Starting point is 00:58:25 every day, the mass shootings every day. How many must people, how many must get planned and then don't happen? Yeah. And what does that, does that, what does that mean for that? So there's, these people around us all the time. Exactly. There's thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands. I don't know, people who are like that.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Yeah. Who haven't done it and then either made amends or buried it or whatever. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't, yeah. But anyway, it's a good, good movie. It's great. I love how it unravels at the wedding as well. It all comes out about him and how he cheated on her and whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:59 And then there's a... Because in a way, this is the worst thing. Because again, that's interesting because maybe he's never done anything bad at this point. But this is, this is the worst thing he's ever done. And it's happening now. Yeah. I think the meat cute was, or even like, their meat cute kind of indicates that he's not on the level a lot of time. He is a liar.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Because, again, if you haven't seen it, why you're listening to this, but the meat cute is, he goes to a coffee shop to order a coffee, he sees Zendaya. Yeah. I think she's very pretty and wants to talk to her. Because she's Zendaya. Yeah, exactly. That's right. Hey, Zendaya.
Starting point is 00:59:33 She looked as ugly Zendaya. She looks like Zendaya. And she's reading a book. So he goes on the good reads and just reads like a brief summary of it. Not even, maybe. Not even, yeah, yeah. Or just reads a review that's like, this is very evocative or whatever. And then he just goes up to her and attempts to make conversation
Starting point is 00:59:52 about the book that he's never read. And then it turns out he has to do it again because she's deaf and one again. He was talking into her death. And she's like, do it again. Let's start again or whatever, which I thought was interesting. I also think what was a really realistic portrayal of this is like their relationship, not just in terms of how it falls apart. But it felt very genuine, very real and very loving.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Like their chemistry together and the way it builds and how they feel about each other, Even, you know, again, when it's falling apart, it feels really genuine and nice. It does. And like, when it's, when it's falling apart and there's the moments where it's like, you know, we've had this bad argument, but we're still together, but how do we get through the evening kind of thing? Like, that felt very realistic, you know what I mean? Great stuff. The drama.
Starting point is 01:00:37 The drama. Seed in Cinema, the director's crook. Apparently. Not apparently. It seems very evident that that is true. True. I also watch the Malcolm in the middle reboot episode for revitalising. I was going to say one more little fact.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Let's do it. So Rachel's cousin, Sam, who's in the wheelchair, she was played by Anna Berishnikov. Is she related to Mikhail Berishnikov? Yep, it's her dad. Oh my God, nepotism at its finest. And he was in sex in the city. He was the sex in the city guy.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Yeah. He took Carrie to France. That's right. Yeah. Oh, and I loved a bit where we mentioned the photographer. where she's planning out. Charlie's just learned about Zendai's worst day of a life. And the photographer's like, and we'll shoot you and we'll shoot the parents and we'll shoot.
Starting point is 01:01:28 We shoot your parents if they're available. Yeah. Shoot your grandparents if they come in. They're not coming in. Okay. There's also a bunch of flashbacks or forwards or whatever where that are surreal and more imaginings. There's like he imagines that there's a mass shooting at his wedding.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Yeah. He imagines that he's walking along with the teenage version of. Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of that. Yeah, going on. Yeah. Anyway, to drama. It's some weird horny gun stuff. There's horny gun stuff. He's got a horny gun book for some reason. Yeah. Where did you get that horny gun book? I don't know, man. Put your horny gun books away. I think of the horny gun book store. Yeah? Yeah. We don't have those in Australia. No, we have horny gum boot stores, which are different. Yeah. Anyway, Malcolm in the middle. Revitalization was pretty solid. Okay. Everyone's good. I feel like... Not everyone's back, right?
Starting point is 01:02:15 No, the actor played Dewey's not back so they recast him and he's mostly over Zoom Which I feel like they did just in case he came back At the very last minute That is apparently... Which makes sense but it doesn't really affect it I think it being only for There's certain other interactions you would have like to say
Starting point is 01:02:30 Oh, this character didn't spend any time with this character Whatever, it's definitely. Did Wilson come over the fence finally? Wilson didn't come over the fence, no Unbelievable, that's not RRRRRRRRRR I agree Of the revivals I think Scrubs is the best Okay But this is pretty solid Solid revival.
Starting point is 01:02:46 New scrubs, by the way. Check it out. The last episode in particular, very, very good. New scrubs. Have you new scrubbed? I haven't watched any new scrub. I know you recommended it a couple of weeks back.
Starting point is 01:02:54 You should scrub. I tell you that much myself. Come on, man. Hey, I don't mind telling you the truth. If anything, I think I'm doing you a favor. Come on, you know I'm allergic to soap. Come on. You are not allergic to soap. You're not.
Starting point is 01:03:04 I know you're not. I've seen you use soap begrudgingly. Yeah, that's right. Being hosed down outside of a restaurant or whatever. Um, because see, I saw her, a couple of reviews that were like, there's no room in modern entertainment from Malcolm in the middle anymore.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Who's saying that? I don't know, variety or something. No, man, it's fine. Don't worry about it. I think it could, it seems like it could definitely lead to more. It's probably rating very well and whatever. And people on the whole, I think, seem to like it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:31 But maybe it is one of those things where like, maybe you just leave it. You know? Like, it's pretty good. Leave it. But also, maybe it'll get a full season. It was called Malcolm in the middle, colon, maybe just leave it. Don't worry about it. Maybe just leave it.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Malcolm What's Malcolm up to? What's he doing? He runs a murder factory for murdering children. Interesting. Yeah. Sorry, he took it over. He didn't start.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Is that better or worse? That's worse. No, he's credits some kind of algorithm kind of system business where like he takes food like charity, like leftover food from like supermarkets and distribute them to different charities. So he's like doing good work. Okay. But he's also been actively avoiding his family for decades. And they don't know he has like.
Starting point is 01:04:14 a teenage daughter or and his teenage daughter as well I don't know who the actor is plays like a version of him younger and she can talk to the camera or whatever and she's quite good as well it's always hard when you introduce a new character into like an interesting cast of but a lot of characters
Starting point is 01:04:28 but I think she does a really good job so does they have Malcolm has a non-binary simbling who's still in high school who was I think just announced that they were pregnant at the end of the last season I can't remember I don't think I made it all over and Brian's Cranston's character
Starting point is 01:04:42 has a little alien a little float ailing around his head, voiced by Aaron Paul. That's correct. Yeah, that only he could see. That's right. There's a Finn Wolfhards in this. Oh, okay. Which is good.
Starting point is 01:04:52 But what's the name of the... Like, Brian Cranston's incredible. What's the name of the actor who plays the mom? Brian Cranston. No, Mason. James. Casmaric. Yeah, she's incredible.
Starting point is 01:05:00 She's so good. Like, she's always been incredible. But yeah. Good. Great. Good. Check it out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:07 There's always an underrated female actor, like a comedic actor in a sitcom like this where people don't, they're like, well, she must be funny by accident. You know, there's this and there's in 30 Rockets. Oh, she is funny by accident. No, I think she's doing her good job. Oh, it's Tina Faye.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Yes, exactly. What's her name? Oh, Jenna. No, that's the character's name. Yes. I say it every time. Jane. Jane.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Plain Jane. No, because I've... No, we are the problem. No, we're not the problem. I've thought about it. We're not the problem. Jane Krasowski. Yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Krikowski? Yes. Terrible. of you. Thanks, man. I'm great. We investigated internally. We're not the problem.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Should we do letters? Let's do letters. Letters. The classic one was, Letters, oh, letters. Letters. We love you. So letters.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Letters. Letters. Nice. Hey. Hey, oh, letters time, everybody. If you got a letter, we can plan a pot at Gmail. If you've got a letter, it's letters time.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Get it in now. Now's the opportunity. Now's the chance. The last opportunity. This window is closing. I mean, currently we have zero letters. So, oh, no, three excellent letters have come in. Wow, and I'm looking at the planet broadcasting great mates group,
Starting point is 01:06:22 but there's a thread every week, and I'm also seeing a bunch of good letters here. Good on us. I agree, good on us. And good on the letter writers, I say. Here's an email from Jeremiah. Jeremiah was a. But then he says from Carl. Carl.
Starting point is 01:06:35 So I don't know what this guy's here. Jeremiah was a Carl. Nice, good. That's good. Was it together. What are these people that are like, their whole deal? Some people have two names. I guess that's true.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Yeah. Get over it. I won't. Get over it. Jeremiah or Carl says, recently found myself dreading the inevitable Kurt Cobain biopic, as I'm a big Nirvana fan, but have zero faith that it would be good,
Starting point is 01:06:57 which got me wondering, is there anyone I actually want them to make a biopic about? What about you? Michael Jackson. Come on, man. No, you don't. No. I would like to see that Fred Astaire biopic,
Starting point is 01:07:07 except for the fact that Fred Astaire apparently didn't want a biopic to be made about him. Oh, okay. But it was going to be... Who was going to be in it? Tom Holland. That's right. I think Tom Holland would do a good job because he's a song and dance man.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Yes. Life on his feet, just like Fred Astaire. I think that would be fine. But, exactly. There is a Kirkabane, it's not really a biopic, but it's a Gus Van Sant made one in 2005 called Last Days. Okay. Which is a Kirkabane. Spelled D-A-Z-E?
Starting point is 01:07:31 No. Cucabane. Right for a remake then. Style kind of dude. Oh, I see, right. Like a Lewin Davis. Yeah. So it's not Bob Dylan, but it's...
Starting point is 01:07:40 I mean, look at the, look at the imagery. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I mean, yeah, I would like that, but if they don't want to do it, don't do it, obviously. Yeah, Kirkabain, Michael Jackson?
Starting point is 01:07:51 No. Michael Jackson? No, I don't want that. Yeah. They are out in force. Yeah, I know. The protect Michael Jackson crew. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:07:59 You didn't even do anything. You didn't even know. He just paid people off, like, millions of dollars because he didn't do it. And it's not like he could have just, like, kept the legal defense going forever indefinitely if he wanted to prove his innocence, which he is. Crook bloke Should we see it for the show? I kind of want it
Starting point is 01:08:17 No, I don't want to Just to be like You can watch it You can watch it for the What we read And what we're gonna read Segment I guess I could
Starting point is 01:08:23 Yeah Yeah And guess what I'm not gonna watch it Well some people are better Than others aren't they Yep It's me better than you It's me better than you
Starting point is 01:08:29 Yeah yeah yeah I just think it's really interesting Also that they had to They talked about it Last week We didn't It came out That they spent
Starting point is 01:08:36 $15 million dollars On reshoots Because And it stops Just in the early 90s Just before The first allegations behind public, which is, you know, interesting.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Very interesting. Anyway, it was a question. Is there anyone you'd want to buy a pick? Yeah, I'd do a Kirkabay, might if it was done well and good and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what kind of biopic is it? Is it like, it seems like more... Is it being made by the remaining members of Nirvana?
Starting point is 01:09:02 See, that's the thing. Is it being produced? Yeah. Inevitably, it has to be produced by people who were there at the time, and it's like, are they going to make themselves look really good? Sure. There was a Kirkmane documentary a few years ago Don't do anything bad, Kurt.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Don't do anything bad, Kurt. Well, it seems by all accounts that he was nice. I agree. And I hope that ends up being true forever. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know, man. I'm not a huge music box, but I like the ones that are more day in the line.
Starting point is 01:09:26 It could be a different. It doesn't have to be a musician. No, it couldn't be. It could not be. But I like the ones that aren't like just skip over the key events in their life. Yeah, right. And just be like, take a window off time and kind of do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:39 The out and John one skips around a bit, that's quite good. Anyway, I'm not a huge fan in general of the biopin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm not chomping it to the bit. I still have to see that Robbie Williams one where he's a monkey. Anyway, I've got a letter. Go ahead. Thank you, Jeremiah was a Kirk.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Kurt? Carl. Carl. This is from Jay. Or maybe it's Carl Cobain, his brother. Carl Cobain. No wonder he didn't want it, the biopic done. No doubt.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Because they'd probably erase Carl Cobain from it. No, I wouldn't like that. No, exactly. Jay says, hey James and Mason, how do you feel about canonical tying comic books to movies? I think Marvel have the perfect opportunity with Doomsday to explore things in comments we haven't seen in the events of the movies such as Sam Wilson forming the Avengers team, Dr. Doom's backstory, Daredevil during the Blip and others I haven't thought of, etc. It would be a much cheaper way to have an audience to experience these stories than another movie or TV show, and it could be a great entry point for comics.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Personally, I'd love to see some time comics throughout the blip like Hawkeye has roan and the Secret Avengers Mission Civil War and some other examples. That's interesting because Alex also wrote and a letter that said, what do you think Marvel needs to do for comics to bring them on par with the DCU? I don't think tie-in comic, because again, they're not canonical to the Marvel comic book universe. Yeah. They used to do more tying comics to the MCU, and then they overwrote some. I remember there was a Gomorrah one which they... There was, I think, an Iron Man one, the Viva Las Vegas one,
Starting point is 01:11:04 when he fights Finn Fang Fum, the giant dragon. But is that, I don't think... I can't remember if that's canon anymore. I mean, probably not. Yeah. Okay. No, no, man. No?
Starting point is 01:11:15 No. Stop with the MCU synergy in the Marvel universe. But you don't even think... Let the Marvel comics be the comics. Well, what do you think about a little bonus thing for those people who want a little bit more insight? Fine. You can have it. I'll grant it.
Starting point is 01:11:27 You're going to do it. But you... But what if that's like bringing Marvel back in general. You know, because the comics are... Constantly rebeerting. Well, that's part of it. Yeah. Not doing as well.
Starting point is 01:11:39 as the DC staff, sales-wise, etc. Stick to an idea. Yeah, that would be nice. Yeah. Stick to an idea, let some creative... See, what I think the problem is, is that they love resetting back to the status quo every time. And the cycle of that keeps getting shorter and shorter and shorter.
Starting point is 01:11:56 And I think the reason that the MCU has been so popular is because there were so many great stories to draw from from the comic book, sometimes in name only. Yeah. But sometimes, you know, quite a lot. and if you keep resetting and going, how about a five-issue series where Iron Man loses his business,
Starting point is 01:12:14 then he gets his business back and he builds a new Ironman suit. Great. But like, let him do some more interesting stuff and then maybe you can adapt that. Right, okay. Yeah, or not. You're going to run out, you're running out of stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:26 You already did the Winter Soldier and Civil War. What are you going to do, Civil War too, maybe? Maybe. Yeah, maybe. Got another letter, Mason? I do his name off from Brennan. Brennan? Hello, boys.
Starting point is 01:12:37 I saw Project Hail Mary last week. I had an experience that I feel the need to share with the whole world. And since the whole world consumes your content, I figured I'd email in. My local theatre has assigned seating. I was sitting in my usual choice. And with about 20 minutes left in the movie, an older woman, and who I presume was her granddaughter came in the theatre. She comes over to me and fairly loudly tells me I'm in her seat.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I tell her that the movie is almost done and that this is my seat. She then proceeds to tell me that they showed up early for the next screening to ensure they got a good seat. Again, I must stress that this theatre has assigned seating. As quietly as possible, I tell her she'll have to wait. She asked if they can sit next to me while I do so. I should have lied and told her that my wife was sitting next to me but my brain misfired and I said, sure.
Starting point is 01:13:21 She then spent the final 20 minutes of Project Hail Mary asking me questions about what was happening. As the credits rolled and I got up to leave, I realised that the employees of the theatre would ask her to leave in order to clean before the next screening. I did not inform her of this. Good. What would you have done in this scenario?
Starting point is 01:13:37 Did I do the right thing? Cheers from America. Sorry. Brendan. I think it's okay at that point. I mean, she's confused, obviously. But she's also with somebody. Her granddaughter.
Starting point is 01:13:47 To be like, you can't sit next to me. Don't talk to me. It's acceptable. Yeah. I think some people just, I think some people have been on this earth for too long. Oh, yes. And in addition to that, and it's not just boomers, but it is. There's this sense of like they feel like they still, they still have anything
Starting point is 01:14:04 relevant to contribute or to say and you have to listen, you can just shut them down. You can just be like, stop. You put your hand, stop. You handled it well, you were nice. That was probably the nicer thing to do. But God, you're a patient man. Absolutely. Fucking full credit, man.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Fuck that. That, I hate everything about that. Absolutely. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Anyway, what do you think? Get in your fucking grave. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:14:32 All right. Well, I mean, I can tell you I would have shut down any questioning. You're good at that. Yeah. Yeah. I've got a vibe that says stop asking me questions. I thought they were going to be on their phone, which would have been bad. But that's way worse.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Yeah. That's crazy. I bet they were coming into watch that movie, too. So they just got 20 minutes of the same movie. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, they would have. I mean, it would have been the same theater. I wonder if she just had like one of those, like, that mental break of like,
Starting point is 01:15:01 because that's what people used to do is they, they would just pay 25 cents for a ticket and they would just walk in. Yeah. And they'd watch the end of a movie and then the start of the same movie. Like it would just go through and they would just figure it out from context. Yeah. Like that was an old, like a genuinely thing people did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:18 In the 50s or whatever. Sure. So maybe she just had a brain freeze and went, okay, I'll do that. Yeah, mate. But look, that's fine. But you don't ruin somebody else's entire experience because you're a moron. But then again, you're a moron. You don't know you're ruining anything.
Starting point is 01:15:31 That's true. drifting through life being annoying. And everybody else has to bend to your will. Correct. Yeah. You can tell someone to shut up. That's fine. It's so true,
Starting point is 01:15:41 is it. Totally fine, acceptable. You could have said they, I mean, I guess maybe you could have, I mean, this is all like hindsight.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Well, they're going to clean the cinema afterwards. You're going to have to leave anyway. Oh, then you have to think of that in the moment. You don't know that they're going to stay and sit next to you. You'd have to anticipate, you'd have to know the whole,
Starting point is 01:15:55 everything that was going to happen. That's true. You'd have to know the future, which we know. We know now. Yeah, So, I mean, you know. You added it well.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Yeah. Yeah. So if this once in a lifetime thing happens again, yeah. You know, go away. Go away.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Yeah. Love that. Well, we've got one related to Project Al Mary. Adam says, since Artemis 2 just completed their moon flyby, which are favorite piece of 20th century era space flight media.
Starting point is 01:16:18 For me, I'm loving for all mankind on Apple TV. I absolutely adore the album, The Race for Space by the band Public Service Broadcasting. Interesting. Not for me with that. I mean, sunshine, we both love. Race, I mean, event horizon.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Yeah, sure. Sure, sure. Sure. Yeah, for all mankind's really good. And that's the parallel universe. Yes, where things are slightly better. Interesting. Just slightly?
Starting point is 01:16:40 Just a little bit better. My understanding is that is keeps going because Jeff Bezos really likes it or something because it's on Amazon, right? No, it's Apple. Apple. Oh, it's Tim Apple. Tim Apple. Hi, I'm Tim Apple.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Hello. I don't believe in anything. I'm Tim Apple. I'm Tim Apple. I've never had a good idea. I'm Tim Apple. What about different colors on the iPhone? Actually, I didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Orange. Didn't he recently released, they released a Macbook that people like, this is a good one or whatever? Maybe. Yeah, whatever, man. Because it's cheap. Yeah, good. I mean, that's good, I guess. Good on your Tim Apple.
Starting point is 01:17:09 That's right. Real man. Real normal man. Yeah. Space-based media. Red Wolf. No, there's got to be. I mean, there's been some 20th century.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Oh, 20th century. Okay. Was this the 21st century? Oh, that's a great point. We're the 21st century. That's true. We are in the 21st. Does he mean the 21st?
Starting point is 01:17:32 Maybe. Because the things that he referenced, like for all mankind, that's the 21st century. And so is Artemis 2. That was a 21st century thing. That's true. Did you see first man with Ryan Gusslang? No. No, I didn't say that.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Apparently that's good. He was busy that day. He was filming Project Halmer. Was he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. At least he told you what he was doing. Parallel thought.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Parallel thoughts. Yeah. I think we've thought of enough. Yeah, the Martian's good. The Martian is good. It's a nice people solving problem. I didn't like how thin he got. It's upsetting.
Starting point is 01:18:02 He didn't really get thin. That was using DVD technology to make him look thin. DVD technology. He's one more email. I got one too. This one's from Daniel. This is from Daniel from Kyoto, Japan. In last week's episode, you discussed video game movie adaptations
Starting point is 01:18:18 and whether you should take a game that is narrative-based and then make it from that, or do you take a bare-bones-nobody and then extrapolate from a story. I think we did this recently. Yeah, we talked about it. Yeah. Is he saying we talked about... Yeah, he's saying we talked about it, James. That's the first part.
Starting point is 01:18:32 There's a 20... The 2023 Japanese indie game, exit 8. Yes. A simple anomaly detection horror game with no story spawned a movie in 2025, exit 8, that is January brilliant.
Starting point is 01:18:42 I saw the trailer to this prior to the drama. Yeah. So this is coming out in Australia soon. It extrapolated on tiny pieces of gameplay law into a truly heartfelt and moving narrative that left me astounded. I think it's the best video game movie adaptation to date. Please check it out.
Starting point is 01:18:57 I'm going to. I saw the trailer and was like, this seems interesting. I'm not seeing any session times. Maybe they haven't put it out yet. That's from Daniel. Oh, 23rd. Can I be the official guy who abandoned his previous life and moved to Japan, but is a loser there too of the podcast? Yes, you may. Yeah. Good for you. Yeah, I'm excited for that one. Luser in two different countries. That looks cool. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know. I saw the IGN review and they were like not very good.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Intra. Because there's another one come. There's another similar, the back room. Well, the back room looks very interesting. The guy directed is like 20 as well. Yeah, because he came up with a concept, right? No, that was me. Interesting. Liminal Spaces. Love that. Yeah, because is it a copy pastor or something?
Starting point is 01:19:35 It might be, yeah. Like a spooky Reddit thing or something? Got Mark a Duplass. Your friend Limmer should create a blog called Liminal Spaces. Do you think he should, though? I think he's busy doing his other job. Like, you know. No, you should quit that.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Okay. And she'd create a blog. That big finance job that he does that ruins economies or whatever. Absolutely. She quit that. I think he quit that. You think he shouldn't quit that? I think he should.
Starting point is 01:19:55 No, you shouldn't. I got one more. I know you have to head off Mason. Luke says, I recently bought over 500 comics from a guy on Facebook marketplace. Friotic comics. So profound comics that easily triple the return of my investment, including the current very hot debt of a 131,
Starting point is 01:20:10 a.k. The first appearance and origin of Bullseye. Do either of you own these super cool, rare collectible items? No. No. I do have, I recently bought a version of the Dark Night Returns where each individual copy is hardcover.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Yes. We're talking about it's coming up on a big sandwich. So that's... Looks good. Yeah. So I like, I don't have anything that's like collectible, but whenever I buy a version of something,
Starting point is 01:20:34 I want to get like, not even the best or the most expensive, but the one, I'm like, what's a cool version of this? I like the idea that someone has a collect, like they have a rare thing, like that it exists and it's been preserved,
Starting point is 01:20:47 but I don't need to have it. Yeah. You want somebody else to enjoy that. I think I've told you before, but when I was a kid, I was, when I was a kid, I loved Transformers,
Starting point is 01:20:54 of course. And then as like a teenager, I'm like, when I get grown up money, I'm going to collect every transformer. I'm a big shelf with all the transformers on it. And then one day I'm just like, oh, people do that. And here's their collections. And everybody's, you know, there's a big database online of all the toys and people are photographed them from every angle and these videos are transforming them. And all the release dates and all the information and all the, you know, the information about the, you know, wrongly colored ones that are more valuable, whatever. And there's a photos of them. And I'm like, no, I don't need to collect anything anymore. Like somebody's done it. So it's fine.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Yeah. The weight is off my mind now. It doesn't matter to me. Thank God. What if they die, though, and all their stuff gets, like, dragged into a swamp. That'd be fine, too. You can go out of the swamp, I guess. I could go out of the swamp.
Starting point is 01:21:34 That's the long game. I just wait till all this stuff's been dragged into a swamp, and then I get it out of the swamp. I get it out of the swamp. I love her you're a swamp man. Yes. Yeah, that's the show. That is the show. Folks.
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Starting point is 01:24:07 But in a scary way. But in a scary gross way. That's gross. Because he did Evil Dead Rise. Oh, yeah. Okay, excited for this. This is going to be good. Yeah, so we'll talk about that next week.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Nice. Mason will probably also see the Michael Jackson. I'm not going to see it. I don't want to. Don't you like Michael Jackson? Not really. Yeah, me neither. Yeah.
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