The Weekly Planet - 625 Backrooms & Spider-Noir

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

Welcome back everyone to a new episode of The Weekly Planet! This week we review two hot propeties that in a way have nothing in common, Backrooms and also Spider-Noir. We also discuss the passing of legandary editor Marcia Lucas, trouble for the Masters of the Universe 2026 adaptation, the return of AI Stan "The Man" Lee, the next movie from Obsession director Curry Barker and more! Thanks for listeningNew bonus movie commentary for E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial with James & Maso out now! Available to listen now on bigsandwich.co and patreon.com/mrsundaymovies alongside over 100 other full movie commentary tracksPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start02:50 Marcia Lucas RIP06:24 Masters of the Universe Troubles15:40 Somehow Stan Lee Has Returned20:10 Obsession Director's Next Project21:28 Sugar Season 2 Trailer27:21 Backrooms Movie Review43:12 Backrooms Spoiler Segment58:53 Spider-Noir Series Review01:08:34 Spider-Noir Spoiler Segment01:16:22 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:20:24 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back everybody to another episode of the weekly planets where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James also known as Mr. Sunday with me as always Nick Mason. What a wonderful day to do a podcast. Completely agree. Crisp. It's crisp outside. It's hard to argue with that. What's it like where you are, dear listener? Oh, you're asking me?

No. It's the same as where you are. Come on, man. In answer to your question. And you know that I'm not asking you, James. You know that I'm never directing any of my words at you. I'm directing them all to the listeners. I'm listening.

I don't want you to listen. I don't want you to listen. I want these to be separate processes. You do your thing and I do my thing, right? Just leave it. I'm loving this. Stop trying to interact with me. You've been doing it for years

and I'm sick to death of it quite frankly. I just want your attention just for a little bit. No, man, it's not going to happen. Have some kids or something. I did. And they don't listen to you either. Sometimes they do. Yeah, sometimes they do.

It's true. Yeah, man, it's a big week, isn't it? Big week for news. That and big properties. Big movie. Big movie. Big movie, big packed theaters. Yeah, absolutely.

But it's not at Star Wars. No, we're talking about that because our backrooms has hit cinemas. That's right. And it's taking Gen Z and virality and all of those things to the next level, isn't it? Absolutely. I think so. Certainly take a virality to the next level. Plus Obsession is still doing really well.

That's right. The Mandilorian versus Groglet is not having a good time. But speaking of Star Wars, I've got some news of the week, one being the passing of Marsha Lucas. whose career will talk about, very influential, not just on Star Wars, but other things as well. I'm going to talk about the tracking of Masters of the Universe, which is out this coming week. Is it bad?

It's not looking good, Mason. Are we surprised? No, not really. Maybe they should get one of its major stars to promote it more, the one that's not promoting it at all, who's probably been asked not to promote it, because he's barely in it. Don't do that.

We're going to talk about how Stanley is back even more in AI. Oh, hell yeah. And we're going to talk about... Hell yeah, true believers. How yeah, true believers. This is what we wanted. True believers, we want him to never die. Yep.

And always be in things. Always be in a weird booth. That's right. In a booth and he can answer your questions. No, he could be in other things that aren't just booths. Yes. Yeah. I'm going to talk about...

Think outside the booth. Exactly. Carrie Barker, who did Obsession, of course, his next movie and the status of that. Time codes below, because Rob Collings, he edits this and he also puts in the time codes. He does a tip-top job? I'm talking to him. Collings, you're doing a tip-top job. Yeah.

I'm doing a tip-top job. I'm talking past you. I'm talking past it around you. You tell me and I'll tell him. So you say to me, you're doing a tip-top job, and I'll pass it on to him. I won't just hold that. Okay, Collings, Robert Collings, you're doing a tip-top job. I'm doing a tip-top job.

That's what you're telling me. No! No! I've got it. I've captured it. And I will pass that on. Thank you. Unless I forget.

All right. Which case, that's mine. Mason, Marsha Lucas. The Oscar winning editor behind Star Wars and many other things has passed away at age 80. She was for a time married to George Lucas was integral in those movies which we have talked about and we'll talk about a bit here but here's a statement from her family that says

Marsha will be remembered as a brilliant storyteller a trailblazer for women in film a loving mother and grandmother, a generous host and a loyal friend whose humour and sparkle filled every room she entered who influence on film is indeliable but those who knew her best will remember her the way that she made life more vivid, more beautiful,

more fun and more full of love. More fun, there it is. That's right. I mean that's start. I mean, that's Star Wars, you know, that first, that first trilogy, you know, again, people have often said, you know, she saved Star Wars, as they say. Yeah. And look, she's downplayed that herself saying that, you know, George Lucas thought of all the characters

and whatever and all of that, which is certainly true, but there are very specific sequences in that movie that only work because of her involvement. Also, she did edit THX Moment 380's first movie, also American Graffiti, and this is what George Lucas said to her, said about her in 1970, he said, I think, think it took her eight weeks to cut that battle. So this is the final battle. It was extremely complex and we had 40,000 feet of dialogue footage of pilots saying this and that and she had to curl through all of that and put it all, put in all the fighting

as well. Nobody ever, and nobody has ever tried to interweave an actual story plot into a dog fight. I mean, that dog fight is like, it's perfect. I mean, the fact that it's, you know, in the Mandalorian versus Grocolon, there's a version of that. Yeah. Like they just did it again because it's so. And it's just as good.

Yeah. It's just as hard. It's exactly right. Yeah. She also edited a movie from the late 60s, so pre-American graffiti, called A Medium Cool, which is, it's got Robert Forster in it. And it's sort of, it's sort of like night crawler. It's about, it's about like a reporter and his cameraman initially.

And they like, they go to like scenes of car crashes and stuff like that. And they just observe, but they don't help. And they're just kind of like these. And it's this sort of, it's one of these early new Hollywood kind of movies. And it's got it's, it's, and again, it's one of those ones. where like it's so well done you don't think about it, but it sort of mixes in documentary stuff with like movie movie footage and all that sort of stuff,

like that cinema verita kind of thing, which now we sort of take for granted. But like back then, that would have been like very innovative. Absolutely. But I love Robert Forster and I love stuff. You love Nightcrawler. I do love Nightcrawler. And this version of Nightcrawler.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She also is the supervise the edit on Taxi Driver and New York as well. And she said this in 1983, The Time magazine. She said, I love film editing. I have an innate ability to take good material and make it better and to take bad material and make it fair. Nice. I mean, and that's the best thing an edit can do.

That's right. She was one of the best, yeah. So, yeah, huge contribution, not just to Star Wars, like very integral to Star Wars, but, and I would say also not just editing, like, because them as a couple, she was integral in a lot of the decision making behind that. Yeah, right. And I think her absence from Star Wars is very noticeable. I mean, not just in the modern Star Wars, but the prequels and...

I mean, editing is one of those things where like when it's bad, you really notice it, but when it's good, sometimes it has to be pointed out. Look how seamless that edit was. Look how, you know, look how this flows so well. Because you just, but when something is a real clunker, that's when you notice. You're like, ugh. Oh, wow. Awful, do you say?

You say awful. You say awful. Speaking of potentially awful, box office. Oh, yes. Apparently, it's good. Anyway, Marshall Lucas, incredible career. Masters of the Universe, it's not tracking well. It's not only going up against like two

Like juggernaut horror movies That are like Probably at least one of them is building week to week And but each of them cost five dollars That's right It's also going up against scary movie Oh yeah And it's also going up against as we mentioned

That the target demographic is 50 years old and dead Yeah that's right So What do you do about that? What do? Yeah And those people Are not necessarily going to the movies

Yep And when they go to the movies They're not necessarily going to watch a live-action version of the toys they played with 40-plus years ago. I mean, we are. We're doing it. We're doing that. But if like this came out, if I had a choice between like this and backrooms

and I hadn't seen backrooms, I would see backrooms first. You know, it's, and we're in this. We're in this movie. We're in this. We're in this? We're in it? Yeah, yeah, both of us. Okay. Yeah.

We're the front and back end of Orco. I was going to say battle cap, yeah. But, uh, what, so apparently also it's good. People seem to be like it. And I am looking forward to seeing it. Again, it does look fun. Quite camp, apparently. Yeah, great.

So it should be. So, Jack Lundgren was at the premiere? Yeah, with the new guy? He's in the movie. He's like, eh. E! So, you might notice a particular person missing from all the promotional materials. Orko!

No. Oh, Jared later. Yeah, didn't come to cinema con, wasn't at the premiere, hasn't posted on social media about it. Interesting. So he plays Skellator. Skellingto. Skellingto.

Skellingto. MoCapt and voice, I guess. Yeah. Maybe not even mocap. Maybe just voice. We don't know that, yeah. I think this is... Because they won't release any behind-the-scenes footage with him in it.

No. I think this is intentional for a couple of reasons. One, he is box office poison. We've seen that from Tron Legacy. We've seen it from Morbius. Doesn't it top people hiring them, though, does it? No, it doesn't. Well, this might.

And also, he's a sex criminal. Yes. Almost certainly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. You can't say it almost certainly. You have to say allegedly.

Almost certainly leaves an element of doubt. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Your honor. Yeah. I mean, if all the people who's going to sue, he's going to pick Me specifically?

Maybe. Because he could crush you legally. Yeah. With his horrible lawyers, probably. Yeah. Anyway, Parknews says that he was paid $5 million for the movie, but he wasn't thrilled with the whole process. But also...

$5 million. Yeah, he wasn't thrilled. You could get anybody. Yeah. Or someone cheap. You could get Frank Welker. I think a lot of people... Get Frank Welker, who's probably a lot.

Get Frank Walker from National Tiles. Hello. I'm Skeletor. Oh, I see. You've bought Battle. cat have you. It's very nice. I've got some tiles for Castle Grey Skull. 499 a metre.

Oh, you just want stone? I'll just put these over here then. You've hit me with a sword. The flat side of a sword. But how many people do you know who could just do Skeletor? Everybody can do it. Yeah, that's my mean. He's not even doing Skeletor. No, he's not. He's doing a different. He's doing a generic, ooh, hello, he met. Like, he's not doing ah. He got to do a. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how much that would affect the box office of this movie necessarily.

I don't think at all. But it's interesting that that is the one level they won't cross. They're like, okay, he's got the sword, he's got the costume, he's got all the characters. Let's put Fisto in this. Let's put Fisto in and Mechanek and all these guys. But Skeletor can't have his silly whiny nasal voice. That would be stupid. I'd be runs off at one line.

Maybe he gets hit in the nuts at the end and he goes like, wah. Ah, you've hit me with the flat side of the sword. Hit my Skeletor nuts. Skeller nuts. Also, him not being thrilled with this film, it doesn't mean anything. His movies are bad. This means nothing.

Skeletestis? Skeletestis. Testicles. Testicles. Testicles? Testicles? Testicles. Testicles.

Tester balls. Tester balls. I don't know. So, yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. This is, what is it? Like a $200 million movie. This feels like maybe, this feels like a Dungeons and Dragons on a room scene. It looks like it's going to be fun.

But I know, I'm, We both missed the media screening in Melbourne this week, but some people I know went and they said it was fun and camp and they liked it. Maybe it will build. And they are not of the generation or the demographic that is supposed to get on board with this sort of thing. So they were like, this is fun. So, you know, it seems like it's something that would do okay with general audiences if enough of a movement got behind it, which it isn't going to happen.

Yes. It's too weird and niche. And again, like, weird and niche is fine. spend $40 million on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they have spent more than that. Yeah, 200. And again, like... I like Travis Knight as well. It's good. When this fails, and it will, unless something magical happens. You know, there's, there's been a bunch of people online, of course, who are like, well, it's gone, the reason it's failed is it's gone woke. Famously gay character, he man. That's right, it's gone woke. I know he's got a girlfriend.

We've talked about it before. Well, probably, Tealer on Emma. Teal's not his girlfriend. She's his good friend. Yeah, because he's gay. Yeah, yeah. But like, but the, the, the, the, He wears a pink gay man's 80s gay man outfit, which is good, by the way. You're getting choked up emotionally about this. This is good. It's a metaphor for coming out. But okay, but the two main sort of spokes of this argument are, of course,

they've got a famously, a character who in the show was originally white being played by a black actor. Idris Elba, who people like. So that's it. So that's one of the reasons it's going to fail because that's why it's woke. And also, and this is also alleged because all these takes were made before the, the movie premiered, but like, oh, Teeler's going to save the day all the time and be a big girl boss and

he man's going to cry in a corner and be like, oh, oh, the white man's being erased or whatever. Do you think they're going to put that in? I think they are going to put that in. But the reason this is going to fail is because nobody remembers this franchise. Yeah.

And also, they're going to take it out of cinemas in three weeks. Absolutely. Right? If neither of those things were untrue, if this were an old school, if we're in an old school system here, this would stay in the movies, this would stay in theaters for two months or three months,

and if it were good, word would get around and people would eventually see it. But now everybody would be like, even if you hear it's good, you'll just go, well, I'll wait for streaming. It's going to be on streaming in 21 days or whatever. Exactly. I've already said to my son,

who's excited to see it. I'm going to pull him out of school to do it. I don't care. School's irrelevant. I know what you're doing in the afternoon. Nothing. I used to be a teacher Mason. Yeah, no.

But he's like, oh, this will be, you know, he's like excited and this will be good or whatever. And I'm like, I wouldn't, don't get your hopes up for another one of these. Because you showed him Dungeons and Dragon. Yeah, and he's like, when's the next one? And you're like, never, never, absolutely never. Also, again, and I know I keep hopping on about this, but the idea of like, well, if you, if you put in one woke thing into a movie, general audiences will, will, they'll sense it and they'll be turned away from it. And it's like, you know, the Spider-Man movies where we're a traditionally white character. or MJ is being played by a black actor, Zendaya, who everybody likes and is a draw,

well, those movies have made billions of dollars. And there's been... And there's been... And there's been a bunch of them. So the general public has plenty of opportunity to have seen these and sense the wokeness and being like, nah. Like you said, this is an IP for dead men. Yeah.

That also hasn't been maintained. Like, it has a cult following. Yeah. But it's not, it's not Ninja Turtles. It's obviously not Barbie, which is why we're here, by the way. Barbie did this. That's true, yeah. So this is where we were out.

Yeah. Little boys and girls, I guess, they're not playing with He-Man action figures. No. Or where are the He-Man video games? They're playing with Centurion. They're saying, where's Centurion? Where's Ace McLeod?

Where's he? Where is he? A specialist with his attachments. Where's all his attachments? Mate, I wish I could tell you. Where's Jake Rockwell? Do you even know? I don't know where he is.

He's probably on the couch. Probably can't fit in the suit anymore. Yeah. He's a suit with all the nubbins on it. He can't fit into it. Speaking of Master of the... Where's Max Ray? Where is he?

Ocean specialist. Do you know? I don't know. Maybe he drowned. Maybe he wasn't as much of an ocean special. Maybe he faked his way through the interview. He was like, yeah, I'm an ocean specialist. Yeah, I could put all sorts of fins on me.

So this, he was like, George Kostan, the Albairie biologist. Yes, it's right. I'm an, do you know anything about the ocean? Yeah, I'm an ocean specialist. My specialty, I'm a specialist. Okay, so we could potentially put like, weird jets on your legs and like a fin on your head and stuff. Potentially, I insist.

And like harpoon guns? Can we attach them to you somehow? Yes, please, thank you. Torpedoes? Yep. Okay. You're not going to swim too close to a big rocky outcropping and fire a torpedo and kill yourself in the ocean.

Let me tell you, I'm going to swim too close to a lot of things, but there's going to be a lot of finesse to the work that I'm doing. Okay, you're hired. I know. I've got a lot of confidence. Anyway, if you like Masters of the Universe, which you don't, because you'd be a dead man if you did. Yeah, uh-huh.

We did look at Masters of the Universe. the universe will never go back a few weeks back. So that's a big sandwich and patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday movies. And last week was Spider-Man Life Story. And this week, we've done a commentary on ET, the Extraterrestrial. Oh, yeah. We looked at that movie. A Bit of fun.

A lot of fun. Remember that bit where a grown man was stunt riding that bike around? Yeah. It was good. It's a good movie. Good movie. Anyway, did you know 11 Labs is proud to announce a landmark partnership with Stanley Universe bringing the voice likeness and spirit of one of pop culture's most beloved icons

to their platform? I did know that and I hate it. What's their platform? Labs. What is their platform? Okay, so there is a video on YouTube. Okay. Is their platform just YouTube?

Their YouTube videos? Well, no, so you can go there and what you can do, you can basically license Stanley's voice. Okay. And likeness to do things. Even at the bottom of the video, it says this is an AI voice replica with the approval from Stanley Universe. Okay. And so what's... It is Stanley Universe that...

Because, like, before he does... They got him in that box. Yeah, they got him in the box, certainly. But didn't they? Wasn't the last few years of his life, like people peddling him out to come in and taking advantage of him and stuff like that? So is Stanley Universe, is that his family? Or is that somebody who acquired his likeness in a predatory manner?

Cartoon Studios Inc. Apparently, or Power Entertainment maybe. Power, yes. It's a, what a web of just predatory, just. Yeah, I mean, at least he's dead. It doesn't have to. he's dead. Yeah.

So what's included in this if you do have... Oh, and Michael Kane ends the video goes, thank you. This has been AI video on Michael Cain. The real, Michael Cain? No, an AI video, an AI voice of Michael Cate. I think you've probably... No, they have his life. He's approved it.

Which also, I don't... Look, I don't love it, but at least he's alive. At least he's alive. Yeah. You know, anyway, what a... What a strange. Do you think they ever met Michael Cain and Stan Lee? I think they've almost certainly.

They probably were smoking on a tonight show. at some point together. He probably was sitting next to each other and talking about whatever they talk about, which I don't know. Old man stuff. Yeah, probably old man stuff. Yeah. Big glasses probably.

Yeah. What kind of big glasses have you got? Big glasses. Big black framed glasses. Yeah. Anyway, this is what's included if you can license this, which you can. We can do it for this show. Oh, terrific.

Request to license Stanley's voice for your project. We got a project. Yeah. This is one of the biggest projects of them all. Here Stan Norete on 11 Reader. I don't know that. which I guess is their 11 Labs reader. Generate your own Stanley cameo.

Oh, hell, yeah. Ooh, I'm in hell. Nice. Before we pay, we've got to check the fine print. It probably says, ooh, I'm in hell. Or if it might, maybe they're exclusively in hell. Yeah.

Like, they're like, hey, can we have him like look like he's in his office or whatever? No, we can only. Hey, true believer, I'm in hell. I'm in hell. What did I do? I don't even know. Seems unfair. Anyway, what's this project?

Weekly part. the podcast. I love that. I'm in hell. They pump it through the speakers in hell. You can score your creations with stand inspired music via fine tunes. What does that mean? I guess they've got a

music generated. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, true believers. I'm Stanley. I'm in hell. Don't get me. Just leave me. I'm guessing it's an generated thing that

AI generate music. I guess they would have I guess they probably have like one of those generic AI because there's like our AI generating music bots or whatever. So I imagine it's just that with clips of him or like maybe they've gotten some of the old Marvel cartoon music or some inspired, you know, stuff.

It's inspired, yeah. Stuff inspired by like the Avengers score or whatever. Yeah, it says the all in one licensing background music platform built for businesses in Thailand. Create the perfect atmosphere for customers. Just in Thailand?

Are we going to have to move this operation to Thailand if we want to take advantage of this? We wanted to do that anyway. We were going to do that for tax reasons, also, yes. Also, there's zero legal risk of this. Is that what it says there? Yeah. Okay. It's a interesting thing to put us the first thing on your website.

It really makes me think there is some sort of legal risk. No, no, I don't think you heard me. There is zero legal risk. This is, does it say, does that sentence have an asterisk anywhere on it? No. Okay. Interesting. All right.

The emoji is rolling eyes afterwards. Oh, I see. I don't know what that is, though. No, I don't know either. So I assume this is, yeah, this is AI. Well, I can't wait for a lot of... I can't, I can't wait for a lot of really egregiously offensive use cases of this. Me too.

Yeah, good. It's not even just Disney. It's everybody. Oh, yeah. Which, you know, Disney haven't even done this yet, which is fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, Carrie Barker, his movie obsession, he's talked a bit about his new movie, which is anything but ghosts, which he's working on.

See, that makes me think there is going to be ghosts. Mason, I'm glad you said that, because it's about two con artists posing his ghost hunters and come across a genuine dark entity. He carried the film with Cooper Tomlinson, who's also in the movie, the previous one. He's a friend. Do you remember the TV show ghosted? It was Craig Robinson and Adam Scott, and they were ghost hunters. But then they retooled it in the middle of the season, I think. They put it on hiatus.

And then in the second half of the season, they're like, no, there actually aren't any ghosts. These guys are just dumbasses. It's very strange show. Do you remember the 20-23 movie ghosted with Chris Evans? No, I don't remember that. It's a real movie. It's not a real movie. I've seen it.

Somebody photoshopped a poster, but they put it on Reddit, and then everybody was like, oh, let's make up a story about it. Yeah, no, it wasn't real. Yeah, fair enough. No one's seen it's fake. I'm sorry, I said that. It's in the same universe as the Obsession Universe. Carrie Barker said this at a Q&A screening of these latest movie.

There's a news article thing of the next movie where you hear about it, and New Zanger talking about a triple homicide. A thing that happens in that movie, no spoilers, I guess. Yeah, no spoilers, no spoilers. It could be anybody. I mean, a lot of people, I mean, we could spoil it because a lot of people see in that movie. It's doing very well, but we're not going to spoil it. I'm also not going to spoil sugar.

We should talk about that way. Oh, you wanted me to watch the trailer for season two of sugar. We'll talk about that afterwards, I guess. Sure. Yeah. Let's talk about sugar. Fine. Let's do it.

We're not going to come back to this. One of my favorite shows because of how weird it is. You're the only one who's seen it as well. I'm the only one who's seen it the whole way through. I think you should spoil the end of season, season one of Sugar. So based on the comments to the, on this trailer, people have seen the whole thing through. But I'll say you, I won't spoil it because I spoiled it last time we talked about it.

But I'm fascinated by it. So it's an Apple TV show. It was a season like a couple of years ago, which I got on too late. Great. And there's a new season on the way. So the premise is that it's about a man named John Sugar, played by Colin Farrell, who's a private detective in and around Hollywood. And that's great.

He's like an old school movie. Hey, I'm an old school movie man. Like a detective. He wears a suit and tie and drives a vintage convertible. And he's like a very kind and decent man in a not so decent world kind of thing. It's like a film noir guy. And he loves film also. And then in the first season, there's a missing person's case.

There's a big Hollywood family. And he has to investigate. And then it's a big web of conspiracy and what have you, right? But as you watch the first season, you're like, there's a bunch of clues. that there's more to John Sugar than you think. Yeah. Doesn't even sound like a real name. But the thing about all the clues is,

they're so vague they could point to really anything. And as I watched the show, the first season, I had like half a dozen working theories as to what the reveal is about this character. And then at about an episode and a half before the end, they're like, oh, by the way, John Sugar's big secret is blah, right? And it's such a pulled out of a hat reveal. Which, again, I won't tell you what it is.

But it kind of, people can Google if they want. And also, I think people should watch the show because it's quite good except for this one, one bit. But also like... The show works without that one bit, right? It absolutely works without that one bit. But what I think happens, what feels like it happens, and I'm sure I said this when I talked about the last, because I talk your ear off about the show. What I think happened is... You made me watch season two trailer for a show, I haven't said.

Yeah. I think that the creators pitched the show to Apple TV, and they went, It's about an old school detective in a modern world, and we've got super cool Colin Farrell to be the lead. And Apple went, not weird enough, at a sudden, inexplicable insane twist to it.

And then they went, okay, we'll do that. And then they just filmed the show. And then like a day before the end of filming, they went, ah, I guess this is the twist.

I guess. It's what it'll do. And season two, because I know the twist because you told me. Yes. Season two, the trailer, there's barely a hint. Yeah.

That that was a thing that was... At the end, there's a line of dialogue. That could be anything. Yeah, that points to, like, if you've seen the show, which no one has. I mean, it's got a season two. But again, this season two is just, the trailer is just, he's looking for someone and he's out of his element and blah, blah, blah. And it's cool. When did this come out?

2024, yeah. I'm surprised it's only been two years. Yeah. Because, you know, sometimes these things take... And he had to do the penguin and other stuff, you know? Anyway, people should watch it. I'm fascinated by how odd it is. And also, I'm sure, like, I bet there's, you know, there'll be, there'll be interviews with

Colin Farrell and promo stuff or whatever. And I'm sure they're like, nobody, do not ask him, the thing will be do not ask him about the twist. Yeah. It'll be like, and that's all I want to know. I just, I just, I just, wait a couple of years. How did this happen? Did you sign on before the twist?

Did the studio insist on it? What, you know, what is, what is the thing? And he won't, nobody's going to be allowed to. to ask and I think it's annoying. Maybe they put it in without him knowing. Because you wouldn't necessarily need him to film the reveal. Yeah, you just put Stan Lee in there. I'm Stan Lee.

I'm Stan Lee. The twisters that I was Stan Lee. That's right. I'm smiling Stan. I'm smiling Stan. But I'm Stan before I got my glasses and my mustache. So I'm just a man. I'm manly.

I'm manly. He is very badly. Yeah. Anyway, what a show. What a show that over you've watched. And again, like I said, of the time. And you think it's a good show,

I think it's a good show regardless. But again, when I watch the show, I'm like, I got to know what other people. When I finished, I was like... Doesn't this just look the same as the first season? It does. It looks exactly the same.

But when I watched the first season afterwards, I'm like, I've got to know what other people thought about it. And I looked at The Guardian and all these TV review blogs and everybody was like, what a fun, what an intrigue. What an intriguing noir show. And it's set in Hollywood and that's a, you know, it's a... We love Hollywood here. Exactly.

And I'm like, I don't think anybody watch the whole thing. I think they just watched the first two and went pretty good. Because otherwise they'd be like insane ending. Yeah. That would be all people are talking about or thinking about. Insane and cheap ending. I think the twist of the second season is going to be somebody else in this universe that he knows is also has the secret that he has. I think that's what it's going to be the real.

I would love it if it was a different twist. Wow. Or they got rid of it. Yes, they could by the way. By the way, you just went insane and then this thing happened. But actually none of it was real. None of it was real. And you're a were a werewolf.

Yeah. All right. Should we move to reviews? Yes. Let's do some reviews. Let's do some reviews. Yes. Is this our famous segment, James and Meso do's the reviews?

Hang on, we should get somebody in here to do this. I'm smiling manly. Let's do some reviews. Oh, you fellas, you find fellas do the reviews, and I'll do some push-ups because I'm Manly. Manly's ours, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Stanley before he grew the mustache and put the glasses.

It's that generic photo of him who could be any man in the 60s. Yeah, no wig. We own that. Yeah. Because nobody's licensed. And he's ripped. He's ripped. Hell yeah.

He's got the V. Yeah. He's ripped. He's ripped. Back rooms. More like packed rooms at the cinema. That's what I call a cinema. A room.

A movie room. It was only me and another guy when I saw it. I saw it early. When did you see it? It was like a Thursday early morning. Yeah. Well, that'll do it, won't it? I saw it a Saturday.

Saturday, Arvo? Packed cinema. Wow. People were loving it. No, no. I was Thursday. Me. And there was a weird guy.

So two weird guys. You sure you weren't sitting next to a mirror? I was. Three weird guys. And he also had a mirror? He had a mirror. Four weird guys. And you both had glasses on.

So eight weird guys. Eight weird guys, yeah. I guess so. And you were seeing double. So 16 weird guys. I can't believe I bought 16 tickets. But also only half of those 16 guys were me. Ridiculous.

So you gave the guy a free ticket, basically. Seems that way. Yeah, okay. Yeah. All right. On a budget of $10 million, this movie, it looks like it's going to have a US opening between. 85 to 88 million.

So that's the weekend. Just the weekend. And potentially more. It looks like it's going to be 120 million globally at least. Nice. It is the biggest 824 opening. I think the previous one was Civil War. And the drama did well as well, I think?

I think the drama did well, yeah, but again, bigger than that. Yeah. This will be by far the number one movie, the box office, surpassing the Mandalorian and Groglett second week, which is experiencing a 69% drop-off. Nice. Which is also, I think, the biggest drop-off for a Star Wars movie ever. More than solo.

Yeah. Bigger than solo. Damn. Also, I think a Star Wars movie, except for like the Clone Wars. Yeah, right, right, right. It has never lost like a second weekend. Oh, interesting. It's never experienced a drop like this.

It also, there's a chance it's going to be third behind obsession. Yeah, right. This is dire stuff for the Mandalorian versus Groglet and Star Wars in general. Succession is, not succession. Obsession is building week to week. Yeah, right. It's huge. Yeah.

And you just said there's going to be something else in the universe. Yeah. Isn't that movie cost like $750,000? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, right. Also, yeah, I don't think Backrooms is going to be as successful as obsession. I think it's too, I don't know, esoteric. Esoteric.

Esoteric. Yeah, okay, right. And I think there's a lot of... I would say divisive. I've seen some chat on the internet. It's not as A to B to C as like... So this is from Kane Parsons. So he's a first time direct.

He's 19 or 18 or something. He's 20 now. All right. Well, he's washed out then. Yeah. He's washed and unk. Finished. He's finished.

And he directed a bunch of shorts that are similar. He's done a bunch of stuff. And these are on YouTube? I didn't watch any of it. I mean, make him away through them. Yeah. They're really interesting. Okay.

And it's also this thing of like, it reminds me of it. And even though it's a more recent thing. You know what? We'll get into it. What do you think the story was? Oh, come on, man. What do you think the story was? Okay.

But I do I do want to talk about all this. Chua tell Egey four. Yeah. Good to see. I love it. Love it when he's a lead. And he's a lead and it's successful so far. Yep.

It's great. I'm enjoying his work. He plays Clark. He's a, he tried to be an architect. A Clarka. And he tried to be married. And he tried to not be an alcoholic, but none of those things worked out. He's doing all those things.

So now he runs a furniture store out in some suburb. Do you think he owns the furniture store? Yeah, because it's Captain Clark's. Oh, he's not just the face of it or whatever? Oh, I don't know. Yeah. No, I think it's his right. Yeah.

Yeah, and so he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's running this, uh, his furnisher store. Nobody comes in, uh, he's drinking. His wife continues to leave him. Yes. She's constantly on in the process. She's always leaving him. She's always leaving him. Also, he's annoyed because the, the, he's electricity bill is really high. Yeah. Even when this shouldn't be so high. Why isn't so high? So double. But anyway, one day he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, he's, he's in the store. He's sleeping in the store to investigate and, and I think he lives there. He might also live there. Yeah. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and then he sees a little, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, liver of light in the basement and he notices that, you know, it's sort of like a doorway and he goes through and he's like, oh damn, I'm in the backrooms. Damn, I've flipped through the wall. I've hitched the back rooms, haven't I? Also, Renata Rinesva is in this and she is his therapist and she's also got trauma. Yep. Yeah, she hasn't been divorced, but she's thinking about it.

And she wants to go to the backrooms also in a way. Yeah, and explore the backrooms. And what are the backrooms? An infinite liminal space of odd... Bods. Oddly, yeah, odd bods and oddly... architecture that looks familiar but off. Yes.

Like it's a dream almost. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The world loves, the word loves it eliminate all spots. Yeah, so to get back to how this started. Yes. There was an anonymous creepy pastor that was on 4chan in 2019, and it was based on an image that somebody posted, which was also a furniture store.

Yes. Which was just this yellow wallpapered room, and somebody put the story to it that actually they found this space. And it's odd because it, my understanding is it's odd because it was a furniture store that was being renovated. So it's got a bunch of odd angles. Yeah. Where you would put like the fake bathroom or the fake living room or whatever.

Like you need a wall that's not for anything. Yeah. So when it's empty, it looks really weird. Yeah. And you can't even specifically say why, but it's off. Like your brain knows that it's wrong. So Kane Parsons, who, or Kane Pixels as he was on YouTube, he learned Belinda at a young age when he was like 14 and started up. He did a bunch of stuff, including like some attack on Titan fan animation.

Maybe you should learn blender and make some protein shakes. Maybe you should. Yeah. I mean, he seems like he doesn't need to. Maybe he should, though. And he started making these shorts in 2022 based on the law. A lot of that's inspired by like he grew up with like Portal and Half Life and Minecraft and little big planet, these group worlds that you can create and explore by yourself.

So if you've seen any of the shorts, most of it is not real, like the back rooms itself. Oh, interesting. And it's incredible because it looks like VHS footage. Yeah, right. but it's of these liminal seemingly endless odd spaces. Because this movie also does have a bunch of VHS footage as well, but a lot of it is sort of just in a film. Yeah.

There's a mix of film camera style, but from time to time a character, we'll pick up a video camera and we'll see from the perspective of that camera. Yeah. And what's interesting about, I guess, like him taking this on is that he doesn't own this. Even the person, they don't even really know who the original poster is from

because it was anonymous and 4chan. Uh-huh. So this law. that has been building a lot, some of which he adheres to a lot of which is his own, is something that the internet owns. So it's basically, like, Slender Man. I was going to say, like, this has been done before, like, in movies, like Slender Man, the Rake, Jeff the Killer, Ilus Jack, the movie,

Laughing Jack, the movie. I guess you can't really own the concept of an empty room. No. What it does remind me of of this kind of internet culture, though it's a more modern version of that, it's like, there's something awful forums from like the late 90s, early 2000s, like that kind of stuff. This feels like a modern law.

Not even that specifically, but you know what I mean, how the internet is just really bizarre and these like separate spaces with, you know, just different stories and myths and, you know what I mean? Yeah,

and like law that would build upon itself. It reminds me of like a modern version of that. For sure. Which the kids are now doing nice. The kids are doing it. The genitals ease. That's exactly right. So that's where it's come from.

Does this movie work? I think it does. For the most part, I think it does. Yeah, I think it's, I don't know, it's not even necessarily that, I think it's probably a bit light in terms of, like, scripting. I think the strength of this is in, like, the visuals and the performances and the world. But it feels like a chapter in a bigger thing, which it is also. It's also links to his YouTube stuff.

Yeah, see, I also, some criticism I saw of this movie was that it's not law heavy enough. Like, there should have been more. I don't even know. And I think that's from big fans of the concept of the background. The backrooms and the short films and all the expanded stuff, the fanfic that people have made. Yeah, and there's different levels and different monsters in different areas that some people adhere to. But, like, I don't care about any of that, honestly. I don't think there needs to be a certain way.

Yeah, I also wonder if perhaps what is being put in this is so you can trademark this version of this version of this version of this version of this version of this version of this version of. It's like, you know, like the Wizard of Oz. Anybody can do, make an adaptation of the Wizard of Oz, but you cannot make the version of Dorothy with the red sparkly shoes or whatever. You can do a Thor, but you can't do Marvel's Thor. Yeah. You know, that sort of stuff. Exactly. So, yeah, I think that's what they've done here.

Well, another thing I think is interesting that even though his original shorts are all in Blender, this is a 90%... Mate, that's not going to make a very good protein shake. Yeah, that's right. It's going to be... Yeah. This is 90% practical. Yeah, right. And there's, they built 30,000 square feet of space.

Uh-huh. And so, because I thought a lot of it. Yeah, I thought a lot of it. And also, but if you watch the shorts, they also feel real. And a lot of the people he put in that, he puts them in, what are they called? Like the morph suit. Hasmat. Oh, yeah, right.

So they're all CGI, but you can't tell. Yeah. I think probably the important part is, and the reason this worked for me is whether it's, whether you're looking at a CGI visual effect thing or a real thing, it does feel like they are physically in a space that is wrong. Yes. You know what I mean? It does such a good job of that.

Also, he did map this all-ed implendered beforehand. There was also talk that, like, he did. There was also talk that, like, he didn't direct this. But Mark Duplas, who produced this and also when he's in this, he came out and was like, that's absolutely not the case. I mean, also, I watched a bunch of interviews with him. He seems like he knows exactly what he's doing. I would be very surprised if that's the case.

I mean, again, I wouldn't go, oh, this feels like a Mark Duplas movie. No. No, not at all. Or whoever else is, there's somebody else producing it as well? It's A-24 and some, and James Juan. There it is. The atomic monster. It doesn't feel like James.

No, not at all. And also, I, you know, especially for a first time director on a Hollywood movie, even a small budget thing, you know, people, you know, they bring people in to assist. Yeah. You know, how do I, you know, how do I order the equipment or whatever? How do I, you know, how do I rent the... Who's this guy? Who's this guy? Yeah, that's exactly.

That's right. So it's North R Road Films, 21 laps entertainment, atomic monster and phobos. Yeah, yeah. Distributed by A-24. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, like, it looks, I really enjoyed it. I mean, we'll get into more like how the world has come to exist or like, and I like the fact that they don't just, there aren't really any easy answers in this.

I think if you look at the law of the backrooms or whatever, it probably explains how everything has come to be. But I like the idea of like, we don't really get that many answers in terms of how does it happen. What is the exact mechanism for these? Are they, are the, how do the various, how does the universe expand out and who's creating it and who's creating it and who's, contributing to its creation or what have you. You can get a sense of it and you can sort of build that in your mind, but I enjoy the fact that you don't really know. It's not about, it's not about like a Marvel movie or a scientist is going to sit down

and explain. Which they sort of attempt at one point. But yeah, it does, for me, it just feels more, it just feels like a naturally occurring phenomenon that it doesn't have, there doesn't have to even be a reason why this exists. But it's trauma. But it is trauma. I don't even know if that's necessarily true. I don't think it's even for people, people don't end up in the backrooms because they have trauma.

No. You can just, and this is the same because again, I've been watching a bunch of the shorts. You can just fall into it for no reason. Yeah. And I think what's so ominous about it is that the further you go in, whenever you're in there, like, you're in that space, you know, as an audience member watching. Because also a lot of stuff is in the, the online stuff is that the further they go in, you do feel like you're just getting. getting further from the way out. What I'd like about, and I think it's a good take on this and a good idea,

is that so Clark, played by Chuita Lager for, is an architect. Yeah. So you don't get the sense that he's immediately going to get lost. Like, he knows how to navigate a space and draw a space, and he knows, he's got some spatial awareness. So you know that he can, he's probably quite accomplished in, he's not going to immediately freak out and panic. No.

You sort of get the sense that he, he knows how he can navigate it, at least initially. Yeah. There's also an internal logic to it where even though the spaces look odd, they do connect in a way, they don't fold in on each other. No, that's true. Yeah. There is a, there is a geography to them. At one point he, because he is, Clark discovers this universe and he wants to tell his therapist about it. And so he can, he maps it out on a piece of paper and shows it to her to be like, this is how the universe works. And, you know, and he's been going through it for, for days seemingly. But like, yeah, you're right. Like if you go into a particular room and you hear some footsteps and your, you know, one exit is maybe not, you feel it's not safe to go through.

You can sort of double back and you know you can make it back to the entrance or what have you. Absolutely. Because also, yeah, maybe there's something in there with you or multiple things or whatever. Also, I think it's cool that if you did have a furniture store, you've got infinite chairs for sale or firewood. Seems to just build. Yeah, that's true, I guess. It's like replicates things that you know. Yeah.

And you can take them out. You can take them out. Yeah, they exist. He could rebrand as, yeah, Clark's, um, rubber. Clark's, um, rubber. Clark's infinite rubber. Yeah. What I think, what I like about this and this is like the idea behind the backrooms

is that it's like a, it's like no clipping in video games. Yes. It's like you're behind reality where you know you're not supposed to be there. The geography is wrong. there are some things that obey the physical laws of reality and some that don't. And there's assets that have just kind of, that from the real world that have been dumped there or half remembered or copied or. Yeah. So that's what it feels like.

Maybe somebody needs them for later or so they've just dumped them there. Yeah. Yeah. Or maybe it's again like some, when you go behind, you know, when you know clip in a video game, you see stuff that the creator didn't even put there intentionally. It's just there because that's the architecture of the game. There is. I think it's in a, I think it's in a, I think it might be. be in a half-life game. You probably know about this one where there's a train. There's a train

that goes around the environment, but they couldn't develop the train mechanic. So they got, so if you know clip through, it's a guy, but he's got a train for a head. And he just sort of runs, and he runs around underneath. And that's how they got the train to work. So if you, amazing. Yeah. And I love what I enjoyed about this. And again, I don't think it all 100% necessarily works especially when we you know the drama comes to a head and we have to have a conflict and we have to have a badson zanda oh yeah the drama um but there's moments in this where like you are just looking at there's not really any jump scares so much in this movie no but there's moments where you are just looking down a corridor and you see like a centimeter of a shadow

pops out from one corner and it's like and i felt my i felt the entire audience in my in my show and go, ugh. Yeah, me and that other guy were like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Guy in the mirror didn't seem that effect. No, it was fine. Yeah,

he looks cool, actually. Yeah, I think, I enjoyed it. Yeah, me too. I think it's, I understand why people might not love it because, again,

there's no hard answers. I think it's a vibes experience kind of movie for me. It's not like obsession where again where it's like, well, this is the narrative. And it's not like succession.

Yes, which is a different show. Different show and dialect. And it's a guy like, you know, good enough to be my family. family. But it is good if you add infinite chairs. I think that's good. Yeah. And you could use them for firewood even. That's right. You could rent them out to schools. Yeah.

For like graduation ceremonies and then you just fucking keep them. I've got an infinite chair room under my that's exactly right. I just remember a chair and then I've got another chair. That's right, which might be how this works. I mean, it's a weird chair. It's a weird chair and it's half stuck in the floor. Yeah, yeah. But I could sit on it. I could sit on it. Should we do some spoilers? Yeah, I'm going to say best movie or also. Um, again, I don't think this is going to be an obsession week to week growth. I think this is probably going to be front loaded quite a bit because of the culture behind it. And this is what Gen Z are looking for, apparently.

And I also think it is hampered by people who love this. Might be like, well, this isn't the version that I like. Yeah, right, right. Or again, like, maybe it doesn't go into the law enough or whatever. Interesting. Sometimes I'll see a movie with a bunch of the Gen Z. Yeah. And younger, perhaps.

They invite you. They say, Nick Mason, you're the coolest guy we know. Come join us and say chicken jockey. We'll all say chicken jockey together. And I say, no, thank you. That's your culture. No, thank you. I'm just here to buy you cigarettes.

That's exactly right. But this crowd had a lot of young people in it. and they were just sort of riveted. There was no... There was some people talking up front, like, before the movie started, I'm like, there's going to go. Yeah, there we go.

No, I'm not going to buy them any cigarettes, you said. That's exactly right. Yeah. But they were... I mean, they're talking about, like, Hollywood wants to know how to get young people back into cinemas or whatever. And the obvious answer is, and we've talked about it. Mandalorian versus Groglet.

And if that doesn't work, Mandalorian versus Groglet again. That's right. But you give young people the tools and the opportunities to make entertainment for their generation. Yeah. We've seen... We've obviously...

And again, that's not going to work every time, but also you don't need to put $200 million into something like this. You put 10. Because if this bombs, who fucking cares? But it's obviously not. It's doing really well. It's all right. Yeah.

Anyway, there's a lesson in this that nobody will learn. Exactly. Is it time for spoilers? It is time for spoilers. Okay, so... There's an entity in there. He's a big tall pirate man. He's a pirate man.

He's got a pegged leg. He's clark. He's ad is bad, too. It's too long. Absolutely. He's too long. And you know what? He shouldn't be wearing the peg leg for the whole time.

No, doesn't make any sense. You should just film him from knees up. Yeah, also, why are you seeing him side on so you can see his real leg and the peg leg? I don't know. Nonsense. Yeah, right. So the furniture store is called Captain Clark's Ottoman Empire. Yeah.

So he's got a local... So he's also assaulted. I guess. It doesn't make any sense. They talk about it. Yeah, so he's... So he does like a community TV ad where he's dressed as a pirate and... He also has a rival, but we briefly say...

Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so in the backrooms, the backrooms has created this kind of monstrous 10 foot tall version of him. It's got a real peg leg and he's horrifying and monstrous. Why? I don't know. What do you think the mechanism? Okay.

So the big reveal, I guess. And we see like there's a pre, before we meet Clark and his therapist and some of the other supporting characters, we see something which I assume is more meant to be. like the backroom's shorts. Yeah. We see somebody who clearly works for a corporation in a hazmat suit and they've been turned around in there. They're being turned around.

They're lost in the back rooms and they're filming everything and they encounter something and then they're killed horribly. Yeah. And then we learn later in the movie that there's a company called ASync which used to make MRI machines and then they discovered the concept of the backrooms. And they're spending the rest of their corporate existence exploring this universe. I think they now use their MRI machines. machines to check if they pull somebody out of there, if they have a skeleton.

Right. I think that might be part of the, because you see them do an MRI at one point. On Renata. Yeah. So what, I don't even, I don't know whether that particular entity is the pirate, but it might be, because a lot of that seems to be informed by him. Yeah. So what I think that from, I mean, again, I mean, you know, the actual mechanics of this

are not, don't seem to be hugely relevant. I don't think, I think it's, you can, you can tell plenty of stories without having a scientists go, well, we figured it out and actually this. But what I think, because Renata Rines for his character, she escapes the pirate. Yeah. It kills Clark. Seemingly, randomly.

Yeah, he spends too much time in the back rooms. Yeah. He went down with a little investigative journey with his assistant manager and her boyfriend, and they were killed, and then he's become insane. Yeah. And he's like, I figured this out. Yeah, I figured this out.

You can eat the fake people in the year. And also, yeah, I thought that was weird. I thought it was weird. I think it's a, I think it may be something that he's done, he's created just so he can survive. And I saw somebody say, well, because the people that's not the giant monster that's a pirate and him, they're replicas of other people that have been in there maybe or it's almost like an us thing as well. It's reminiscent of that. So Renata Rinesvay escapes the monster.

But it eats him after he eats one of them. That's true. So I don't know whether that's going to. So she escapes and it's captured in a sort of. about a gas trap that has been set up by this company, A-Sync, and she meets Mark Duplas. She meets Mike Duplas, who is a scientist who works with this company. Are they still in the back rooms? I don't know.

I don't think so. Oh, they can get out to the very least. They may be art. But they have learned. Do you think she gets out when they capture them? Because they're wearing hazmatts. Yeah, I think so. Do you reckon she gets out and then they, because also they've been trying to, so you know

when he goes down there and there's the standee that looks like, Mark Bonano. Yeah, he does. And they're playing the... It's a lure. Well, yeah, it's apparently it's the Voyager Golden Record. Oh, okay. I didn't know that.

I read this for making contact. So I think they're initially trying to make contact and then they're like, fuck it, we'll just grab this thing. Yeah. Because when it gets, there's a mechanism that's triggered later, which gases her and the creature. Yeah. So I think that's what they end up going for.

So I think, yeah. And so, but he's, so Mark Duplas is, is interviewing her sort of interrogating her. She wants to leave and he's like, we just need to know what's here. Yeah, what you saw. What you saw, you know. How'd you get here? How'd you get here? Et cetera. And she's like, don't you know. And they're like, we don't know. We don't know. So I think my, my, it feels like this universe, because these doorways keep appearing in the world, apparently. Maybe just in the US, but maybe everywhere. And then they lead into the backrooms and they're not sure why. But is it that people, some people's trauma is particularly

notable and it creates a backroom and then if you are in the orbit of that person you can also fall into the backroom. Because seemingly a lot of this is is Clark's doing, right? Yeah, but I also, I don't even know if it is trauma related necessarily. I think that could be part of it.

But to me it feels like, and Kane Parsons has said something similar where like there's no good or evil in this. There's no lessons. It's not even a person. Hergatory. Right. It just, yeah, this just, it just exists.

It just is. And when you, and it's, when you, it's, what seemingly happens is when you it's, what seemingly happens is when you then have a memory of that and that memory is put into the back rooms. Yeah. So there is a moment when after Renata's interview, we see in the back rooms a sort of a, a half remembered. Yeah.

That, that room appears. And it's a sort of a half remembered version of. her looking at nothing and just it's now she is a creature in the back room yeah she's real she still exists in a real world but what yeah because it's like why is he a peg leg monster uh-huh and she's that like what's the difference great question is it just a red is it will she become a peg-leg monster eventually i don't know because she was similar to the other ones that have like the multiple faces and you can eat them yeah because also her trauma is that her mother was schizophrenic i think yeah and agoraphobic and so agoraphobic it didn't want her to leave the house

and so kept her trapped in the house until I guess the authorities came and took the mother away and then years later as an adult she sees that house that she lived in gets demolished and she her only memory of that or only positive recollection is that one day her and her mother put hands in the wet cement out the front and left handprints and so she's kept one of those handprints after the place was demolished and we see we see the remnants of the demolished house in the back rooms and on multiple levels as well at one point point. As, as the, as the, as we go down and further and further down into the backrooms, the memory gets more and more abstract. Yeah. It's just lines. It's a copy of the

yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, I would definitely see another one of these. And again, I'm making my way through the shorts. I'm probably, I wasn't planning on watching them all, but I've just let it kind of run. And I don't, there are some answers here, I guess, but it's, it's more, for me, again, it's more about just experiencing the, the vibe and the world. Yeah. I don't, I think when they eventually, and they, and they, will, they'll be like, well, this is exactly what it is. It's going to be like, it's not as interesting. Absolutely, yeah.

You can't, and I guess if I were to critique this, and I'm going to, brutally. You can do that now. Yeah, yeah. First, get some protein shakes in your cane pixels, if that is your real name, which I know it isn't. That it's that thing of the monster that you imagine is always going to be more terrifying than what it turns out to be. And I think, I imagine there is going to be a critique of this movie that it's just, oh, it's a pirate

guy, is it? It's a big pirate man. In the, in the shorts, sometimes it's this weird, like, stick man. See, that's kind of what I was expecting, honestly. It's like this amorphous almost. Yeah, I don't know, but it's just a big pirate puppet man. It's a pirate puppet man. You can break his wooden leg. Yeah. Which is because there's no, there's no memory of that. Yeah. Like there's no, like I, I, you know what I was probably expecting. Did you ever say I saw the TV glow? I didn't know, but that's a good of liminal space. That's kind of a similar vibe, but it's like, there's a lot to do with like cartoons that people watched as kids.

And I was expecting like, well, maybe the monster is some sort of. Gumby. Because there's no, nobody has, maybe it's, maybe it's going. It could be Gumby. Nobody has a, nobody, these two adults who go into this universe, none of, they don't have a half remembered experience with a, with a pirate man. Yeah. Like, this is a memory he's made as a grown adult where he's wearing this pirate costume in

the, in the ad. But it's not like he saw that as a, like, if it was. Like if maybe he saw an ad as a kid where there was a pirate monster and then something traumatic happened to him and he imagined. I saw Captain Feather Saw it from the Wiggles. Exactly.

And now he's chasing me. Now he's down here. Now he's down here and I have to run near a pool. Yeah. I don't like it. It's unsafe. Yeah, it is a bit unsafe. Yeah, I don't know.

I guess I expected a stick figure monster. You know, it's interesting because like people have had and I definitely have had like dreams and like of things that are like this. And all my dreams are. true. Okay. Yeah.

That's good, I guess. But like, I mean, like, when you're asleep dreams. Oh, sure. I don't know where they've come true. Of, like, spaces like this. Yeah. And like a reality that's off. I remember once I did this, um, it's a few years ago.

It was like, uh, it's probably like 10 years ago, actually now. It was this place in New Zealand that was, it was like a fun house kind of almost mirror place. And you go through all these different crazy rooms and whatever. Yeah. And then you come back out. And I thought the last room would have been fun if it was just a replica of the entrance except it's just a blank waltz it's a fake it's a fake which happens in this which happens

in this yeah so like stuff like that it was like there's stuff in this that like i ever i ever that i recognize this even though yeah it's not this exactly i have a recurring i have a i have a i don't remember my dreams very much but i do have a recurring dream that is set in a very large environment that i could draw if i had to yeah like it's it's a yeah i also have a recurring dream like you know you wake up and you go i had a dream i i have this dream The only time I've ever... I settle down, MLK. Oh, I settle down, mate.

Well, he's, I mean, MLK wishes he had this dream. I have this... The only time I ever wake up and I think a dream was real is I have this recurring dream where I think I purchased a Lamborghini and I put it in storage, but I can't remember where. Like, it's in a garage somewhere

and every time I have this dream, I wake up and I go, I should get that... I should get that Lamborghini out. I should get the Lamborghini out of storage. I can figure it out. I can figure out where it is and then I can just give it a world. you know?

Yeah. And I'm like, no, that actually isn't real. Like, it takes me a few minutes to be like, a few minutes to be like, that's not real,

actually. You make it calls? Yeah. It's gray. It's like a slight gray. Okay, it's a nice. What did you just get a real Lamborghini?

I could do that. Your dreams could be real. I could. I mean, all my dreams have come true except for that one. Yeah, but maybe this one is real.

My best. He's got some reviews here. This is from Morgan who says very much enjoy it. It was not expecting much and was blown away. It shows off what's so unique about backrooms while telling an engaging story. Best movie ever.

Renan says, every shot in this movie is very unique, beautiful and a little bizarre, which I feel fit the vibes of the back rooms a lot. My biggest gripe with the movie are Clark's creature designs.

I don't know. I feel like it went for something similar to the Rolling Giant from the oldest view, but it didn't end up being that uncanny. Plus, it sort of felt like the creature from the It movies.

There were a few shots where it creeped me out a little bit, like the one where Mary is trying to leave the store and turns around to see him off in the distance. But most I just feel like this story of the characters didn't really land for me. Maybe multiple viewers are, viewings, I'll catch some more stuff and implied through symbolism,

but on the first watch it felt kind of vague, the liminal space aesthetic and that eerie feeling it gives is where the movie really shines. I agree with that. Xavier says, I went in not wanting to want you, only because my brother asked me too, and he paid for the ticket and absolutely blew me away.

Fucking fantastic from free movie as well for you. Free movie. I got my, in case everybody was wondering the saga, they didn't give me a refund for my ticket. They didn't, why not? But they gave me a free pass. Well, that's good.

I'm going to give you a free pass as well. Thanks, man. One free shot. One for a shot. All right. What if I just leap for the level? I just change. I don't know it.

Andre, Andrei says, I thought it was fine, great performances and very impressive directing, but the script is on the weakest side. It feels like a bunch of YouTube videos strung together because reasons.

My screening was packed with teenagers and even some kids. I guess backrooms law is huge with them. And you know what? Good for them. Heather says, I liked it. I loved the dream like nightmare fill the backrooms.

It made me think of House of Leaves. I was wondering how that would make a more conventional narrow. out of the YouTube series and how well they would need to be explained. I thought it was done pretty well. I haven't read House of Leaves. I should. It's on my,

it's on one of my, it's on one of my, like, um, I was thinking about this the other day. Maybe I'll buy it right now. But also, it's not a movie I'd recommend everyone because I know the mileage may vary.

And Sam says, I want a more unsettling analog horror out there. No, not hyperviolent, uh, gore, jump scare fest. This scratch the itch. I've been trying to reach it for years.

It's the ideas, uh, its ideas are a bit scattershot, sure, but it's surreal. It's surreal. so it fits. But at the end where there's the,

we see the, like the telephone poles with the missing people on it and it's just in the back rooms. Absolutely. Spooky. I think also this is the perfect time to release something like this

because this is also a generation who did grow up on, I guess not as much portal, but like Minecraft and world building and strange, you know, stuff like that. So you're hitting, you're hitting that demographic

with something like this as they mature. Yeah. Like he man is hitting our demographic. That's exactly right. dead man. Variety said they spoke to Kane, pixels, parsons, and he said, I would like this to be a bit of foot in the door that would lead to more progression towards the true route of the

narrative, which has been set up online for years. And for people who are into it, I've got a contract and I've got a hold on my end, and that means I'm definitely not done with backrooms. I've got very specific things that I'm working on, things that works right now, and I'm eager to talk about, but currently it's still a secret mystery world. So, yeah, he is coming back to this. Yeah. Which, good.

And they would be, they would be keen, I think. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're going to have to build another set. Two back rooms. Two back rooms. All right, should be to another review? Let's move to another review.

I got time for it. What do we call it? A Spider-Man noir review. Oh, yeah. I guess we could call that. That's what it is. Cachow. Yes?

Spider-Man. Spider-N-W? The spider's famous catchphrase, Cachal. Yeah. Cachow. She. She's like,

bear. Well, Spider-Man, Noir. Yes. All episodes are out on Amazon, Plus, whatever it's called. Not Disney Plus. Interesting. Interesting how that works.

Oh, Sony. Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah. And Sony don't have a streaming service, which I think is smart because they're too stupid to run that effectively. And they make lots of things that are bad.

Well, frankly, yeah. Surely Sony's produced something that's good recently. Yeah, master the universe is coming out. Is that a Sony joint? It is actually. Oh, wow. Good for them. No, Sony have made some good stuff.

But I think they're smart to not get in. Handy cams. Yes, but also not to get in the streaming game. And also they have PlayStation, so it's fine. It's true. which we might talk about a bit later with letters. Anyway, Nicholas Cage is The Spider. Correct.

What's the story? He's Ben Riley. Or is he? Yeah, he was the spider a few years ago, but he's like, nah, nuts to this. He's like, nuts to this, see? And then he's like, actually... I'm going to retire because I'm 62 years old. That's exactly right.

I'm a 62-year-old, 40-year-old man. And I'm going to retire, but actually I'm going to remain being Ben Riley private investigator. Yep. But maybe some stuff's going to have crime and stuff and monsters and guys with superpowers. What kind of guys? Oh, sandy guys, electric guys, fire guys, big guys. A guy that's kind of, he's tombstone, but he's really kind of a lizard guy. Lizard tombstone, sure.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, they're all back. Brenn Gleason's there, he's doing crime. He's super-man. So maybe Ben Riley's going to have to do Spite Be the Spider again. Yeah. And he can do it in black and white. He can do it in color.

He's versatile. So we had different experiences with a black and white and color situation. Some people are finding it very difficult to, some people are finding it seamless to go between. That's me, Mason. black and white in color on their television. Something went my way. That's right. That's right.

But myself, and I'm not alone in this, found it very difficult. I was like, I'll just watch it in black and white, because I think that'll be the best version for me. It is. And you start it up, and it's like, simply switch between. And I'm like, how?

And I couldn't. I couldn't do it. It's simple. It's simple. I'm Stan Lee. I'm back from hell to teach you to go to black and white or whatever. So on my TV, I opened the Amazon Prime app

and it's like hit play and then you can switch and I'm like I saw hit play and it's in color and then I'm like I can't switch and so I went on Google and I checked and people like okay what you can do is you can open the prime app on your phone

and it'll let you switch it as black and white and then you restart then you switch off the app and then you restart your TV and then it'll when you resume playing it on your TV it'll be in black and white so I tried that and all the thumbnails were in black and white and when I clicked the thumb

nail, it was just still in color again. That's great. So what I had to resort to was playing it on black and white on my phone and then streaming it to my TV. That meant you can't be on your phone also properly. No, I could be on my phone. In a way that you want. Well, just, yeah.

Wow. Wow. Well, but I watched it in black and white. Me too. It looks way better. I tried a little bit in color and I'm like, I don't like this. It looks worse. The special effects look worse.

You can see all the makeup and the wigs. Yeah, right. It seems like it was made for black and white. They're making a lot of claims about, we actually made it in a way so it's perfect for black and white and color, but I don't think that's true. It's perfect for black and white and not for color. I think they chickened out and went, let's also colorize this. Yeah, and that's, I think also that's why the default is color.

If you play it on your, again, certain apps, certain TVs, I guess. Yeah. It just plays in color by default. And I think they're like, people are going to be scared by black and white. Let's not not do that. But I think you're right. And I think it looks, it, I'm saying this in a positive way, it does look like an old movie. Yeah. in the sense of it does look like they're on... Old sets. They're on sets and they're obviously like, you know, how old movies used to use rear projection and stuff like that.

Some of it, it does look very unreal in that way. Yeah. But I think black and white suits that very much, you know. It's kind of Sin City-esque, I guess. It is Sin City-esque, yeah. And it's not just because it's black and white. Also, even seeing the opening in Spider-Man is like, well, this spider is swinging around New York City.

I'm like, pretty good for TV. Yeah. Doesn't look as good in color. But again, I had to watch that about 10 times. because it's like, I had to keep trying to get it to work. And it's like, some people ask me, what universe I'm from? And I'm like, that's a crazy question to watch that. On Nicholas Cage.

I'm Nicholas Cage, actually. So this is the same character from... No. Isn't it? Because... From across the Spider-Verse. No, because he's Peter Parker. Or this guy is also Peter Parker, actually, it might be.

I think it is because the... First of all, they... I'm guessing they can't call him Peter Parker in this for legal rights reasons. Maybe. Or they want to save Peter Parker for the moment. I don't know if this was true, but I... somebody, I saw somebody on social media say, if the character is called Peter Parker, you can't have the character's smoke

or kill people or what have you. But if he's not technically Peter Parker, you can just do whatever. And this character is killing, but he's not killing people directly a lot of the time, I guess. He does kill a bunch of people. He does kill a bunch of people. He, at one point quite early on, he like, webs a guy and swings his Tommy gun into the path of another guy and the, they machine gun

each other and et cetera. So like, there's a lot of death happening. Absolutely. But yes, but I think the line at the start where he says somebody asked me what universe I'm from I think it's Miles Morales in Spider-Beroy. Yeah, he might be right. I think this is, and the, my guess is that after the events of what have you, he's decided to change his name to get away from it all. And that's why he's been right. But why is he an animated man and melting this? Oh. Also, I guess that's also true. Like, when the Spider-Verse movies came out, people were critical. They were like the Ben Riley and

that, the 90s Scarlet Spider. They're like, this guy's very out of character. He's not the same character. No, he's not. He's from a different universe. So apparently also they wanted to make and Ben Riley so they could age him up also make him more world weary, which again, I don't think is, I think that's not the reason. I think the reason is what you said, because when you do Ben Riley, you don't have to do Peter Parker. Yeah. Yeah.

But I think Nicholas Cage is really fun in this. I think he's too. So he's never wanted to do TV and apparently it's because his son showed him breaking bad and he saw Brian Cranston stare at a suitcase for six minutes. Oh, yes. Oh, you can't do that in a movie. You can do that in a TV show. Yes.

And I also think it's interesting that this version. of him, he is more animalistic and spider-like. And when he takes on the powers, he's cosplaying as a human. So he even talks about how, like, I had to go and watch movies to learn how to act like a person again. And his persona is that 1930s like, hey, you're sure. It's like, it's really over the top.

And it's like, oh, he's doing a performance in the... Yeah, and sometimes he's mehashi, but sometimes he's also like, well, I'm going to pretend to be a bus boy, where I'll really lay heavily on the miashi. Yeah, exactly. So I think that's fine. Jimmy Durante of at all. Yeah.

So he's also, he's got his own with great power kind of moment, like the reason, his own tragic backstory for the reason he is. His spider sense is like having a migraine. Yes. And it's mostly doesn't work. It doesn't work. And it's also, he's not as powerful, I think, as regular Peter Parker, where he can be depowered from exerting a lot of effort. And then he becomes more. And also, when he's like, when he loses a lot of energy or power or whatever, he does.

does curl up like a dead spider. Yes, that's right. Stuff like that, which is fun. Also, they give him his costume back in episode too. Yes. Which I really appreciate it. It wasn't, we waited. Although they did, you know, I guess we're doing some spoilers for this, but like,

he has to go to the apartment where he used to live. And he's like, I'm the building, Inspector C, I'm the wall, Inspector C. I'm going to punch a hammer through your wall, see? I think you could just probably just bought that mask somewhere at a shop or whatever. I don't think he had to smash into somebody's house to get it. They'll have lights in it. He puts it in a suitcase and he buries it. He puts it in the wall of his home and then he leaves there.

He could have just, I reckon he could just bought a barrel of clava somewhere, put some lenses in it. Also, he had in the hardware store. Didn't he have some of it anyway? Because sometimes someone would see him in their costume when he got drunk. Did he have some of it anyway? No, I think he was just walking up walls. Nick is in the moment where his secretary is like, and sometimes he has the goggles on. Oh, that's true.

He does, yeah. Maybe, I don't know. Yeah. I think the action is well handled. But what I really enjoy. Old-timey-fifty cuffs. Yeah. Which is, because we've talked about this, or maybe you specifically, but this version of Spider-Man, like, he's a brawler.

Like, he's not as acrobatic as... As real life, Nicholas Cage, for example. Yeah, that's right, yeah. But there is a moment where he has to get into, he goes into Silver Main's apartment and gets into the safe. And so it's like a stealth sequence. And that, I feel like is where the strength, like, I really liked that sequence. I thought it was just really well handled and played to the strength of the character. And, you know, he's got light-up goggles and, like, you know, he's big.

built for sneaking around and doing detective. Correct. It's what he does. I think there's superpowered, because there's no other superheroes or superpowered people. Yeah, seemingly in this university. Until recently. And then he meets Fireman, whoever that is.

Yeah, I don't. A lot of these have, many of them have like regular Spider-Man universe analogs. There's a Sandman, the lizard guy, tombstone kind of guy. I don't know who the fire guy is. I don't know he's supposed to be. I guess it's one of the elementals. I'm guessing. So it's, yeah, it's,

Fire guy, Sandman, Electro, and it is Tombstone. But it's Tombstone who's got like Vulcan kind of, not Vulcan, like Klingon kind of make up. So it looks kind of like a lizard. Electro is like mostly Electro, but I'm waiting for Sandman to do like big smashy hands. And he just kind of doesn't really happen, you know? They could have just bought some of those Hulk hands from the toy department of Kmart. Yes. And dipped him in glue and sand.

That's done. That's your work done for you. done take the rest of the day off. Props department. Yeah. I like the origin of where he gets his powerful. We're going to do some spoilers, I guess. Let's do it, yeah.

It's good. I liked it all in all. Also, like, I know it's coming back, but I don't think it has to. You can do one and done is fine. No, it can be. Yeah, you can have different versions. And there were also different, oh, do you want different Spider-Man's? Because you could, there were a bunch of other noir Marvel characters.

True, yeah. It was an Iron Man noir and et cetera. Oh, that's true, actually, yeah. so you could introduce them into the universe. You could be like, ah, you give Iron Man, I don't know, Mr. Roboto, I don't know, do whatever you want.

Yeah. If Iron Man doesn't own, Marvel doesn't own the copyright on, Marvel doesn't own the trademark on a guy in an iron suit or whatever. What's Iron Man Noir even look like? Oh, like an Art Deco kind of thing. Yeah, you'll be probably like an image of him flying out of a Zeppelin or whatever. That's exactly what I'm looking at.

Yeah, yeah. Because you invent this. Is that how you know? I invented this, yeah. That's self-published. But yeah, you know, there are, there's, So you're suggesting a different version of Spider-Man, okay. I mean, you could do this again, but whatever.

So spoilers, yeah. I guess if it were really successful, they could... I don't know why they dumped these all at once, to be honest. If it were really successful, I guess they could, Sony and Marvel could collaborate like they do with the Spider-Man movies and go, okay, we could do a noir if, we could do a noir Iron Man. If Robert Danny Jr., if it got in Robert Danny Jr.'s brain to do Noir Iron Man, it would happen.

It would be like you could drive your cars around or whatever. You could drive an old-timey car powered by peanut oil. Is that what you want, Robert Bainer Jr.? And you could say she or blackface, whatever. Yeah, do whatever you want, man. You love that. Whatever you're inclined to do. You know?

Yeah. So at the end, also there's a, he has a battle with Electro and Sandman and then they fight each other. And I think that's, again, like, where's Electro where he's like flying and shooting? Cost too much. Yeah, exactly. And also, like, again, there's a moment where Sandman. is turned to sand and I'm like oh so this is the moment where he's going to

sand man out yeah sure but he doesn't I like that he gets betrayed you forget him about the man part the man part is also important oh yeah it is what are you expecting a pile of sand he's not called sand I did see a pile of sand so we got that but just big big smashy hands

is all I'm asking for yeah I like the funny I like the fun back and forth dialogue I thought a lot of that was very good they got that snappy kind of carry grand kind of vibe going on you know he's got a love interest. Yeah. You know,

and there's a betrayal there as well, which I think is good. I think Silver Main is it, Silver Main is just king pinned. Yeah. There's nothing particular. And at the end, he just gets shot.

Yeah. And I just thought, I wanted, I wanted robot silver. As I mentioned, I thought it's going to be a clockwork steampunk man. That's what I'm saying.

He's got a zeppelin in him. Yeah. You know? She, I'm a zeppelin. She. And it is, I do like how everybody's so kind of stupid that,

or like, he can just say, I'm not Spider-Man. and they're like, I guess. Yeah. Like, you know, it's... You don't think that's a flaw in the story. No, not in this era of like...

Because you can just have another guy, you know? Robbie Robinson's great in this as well. Yep. I really enjoy. Costuming is also very good. Costume is great. I do like that Spider-Man noir costume. Also, it seems very achievable as a cosplay.

Oh, it's a cosplay, absolutely sure. And you can also certainly tell that a lot of that is not Nicholas Cage. Oh, yes. Bouncing around in that costume. Correct, yes. Yeah. It's good action, though. It's good.

Also, so his name isn't Ben Riley. He took on that name after. That's what I'm saying. No, no, I'm telling you that. Yeah. After World War I, where he gets bitten by a freakish man spider and he gets experimented on. Yes.

So I liked that element of it, yeah, because it is the workaround of, I guess this could have been a Peter Parker at some point. But we don't actually find out, we don't know who this is. Yeah. But I guess it's just implied that he is Peter Parker. But not all the Spider-Man, the multi-dimensional Spider-Man are Peter Parker necessarily. No.

Future Spider-Man is future Spider-Man. Correct, that's right. So, you know, and et cetera. Yeah. Would you see a second season of this? Would you look at it all day? I'd look at it all day. I didn't like that I had to shotgun this to like for this show.

I'm like, this reminds me of where Netflix daredevil came out and I had to like do 12 of these in a row. Well, I would have enjoyed doing a week to week of this. Yeah. Well, too bad. Yeah. But, you know, again, it was good and I liked it. And I liked how he killed up when he got injured. And he's got gooey, sticky, real webs.

That's true. Yeah. My son wanted to watch and I'm like, oh, Probably not. There's a moment where you see, like, a guy get his throat cut. That's true, yeah. So, yeah, like a guy gets tortured to death, really. Yeah, so it's probably not.

And everybody's smoking. Everybody's smoking cigarettes, which is cool, sure. Yeah, you know what you don't want your son to become too cool, too fast. I'll take him to back rooms. That's more speed. It's exactly right, yeah. Yeah. Do you want some reviews?

Oh, want of summer reviews? Give it our reviews, James. Grant says, I binge... I'm an Italian, a mobster. Are you? Yeah. You should go to jail. I binged it.

It wasn't expecting a lot, but this is one of the best things Sony is done with the Spider-Man. You're coming to me on my day of my daughter's wedding. And you're clearly a different guy in a suit. You're clearly not Nicholas Cage.

You can't deny it. Undeniable. Sorry, carry on. That's okay. It's the best thing you were doing in the moment. You were in a flow state. Sonia's done with Spider-Men in years. If they could keep the quality up,

I'm on board with them doing more. Shane Prime keeps trying to sell me washing liquid every 15 minutes. Yeah, I have the ad version of Prime that I've never bothered to upgrade. Yeah, I'm already paying for this. That's what I'm saying.

Pay for another level. Yeah. And there's so many ads. If you think I'll just delete this. That's right. You think I'm going to upgrade this? You're insane. Tom says,

I only watched the first episode, but I really liked it. Excited to see what the rest of the season, where the rest of the season goes. It's interesting. Thank you for the review. It's interesting. It's not over it.

It's interesting where everybody's lines are. Like I've got 10 streaming services easily that I'm just burning money every month, but I'm not paying the extra two bucks, 50 or whatever it is to get rid of the ads on Amazon Prime. I'm just leaving the room. I leave the room, I put the washing on or something, and I come back and the ads are finished.

That's right. Dude, stop. It used to be ad-free. It used to be ad-free. Tom also goes on to say that it used to be ad-free, and he's surprised by how good the effects are, and he loves how almost shot like film of the zero-two, they go all out on the gimmick, and it's great.

It is nice, they committed to it. Yeah. Andrew says, I'm... How do you think they did the bit? You know, this bit... It's in the first episode of two where Nicholas Cage is just hanging from the bottom of a bridge just by one arm?

He's probably just... I think he's probably just standing there and put his arm up and they were like, we'll draw everything around. You're Nicholas Cage. Mr. Coppola will just... Did you know he legally changed his name of Nicholas Cage recently? Yeah, so he wasn't...

He used to be Nicholas Coppola. Yeah, no. Yeah, because he's friends for Coppola's nephew, yeah. Copola. Yeah. What are we saying? Capola. Capola.

Capola. Yes. Andrew says, I'm loving these. genre-bending superhero series slash movies. I always wanted to see an adaptation of Spider-Man 1 this series really scratching that itch. Yeah, I also think if this was 10 years ago, this would be more popular, people would be like,

wow, incredible, but because I've had so much stuff, I kind of feel like it's not getting, it's getting back-roomed, it's getting obsessioned. Yeah, it's competing with those markets internationally and domestic. Masters of the Universe. It's a huge movie. It's going to have to compete with Master of the Universe next week. It's unfair.

It's unfair. That's right. How can you compete with that? Right? You literally can't. Yuck. Should we do in the next segment of the show? It is it letters.

It is letters. All right. No, it's not. It's what we're reading, what we're going to read. I thought that was, I thought this was what we're doing. Were we in that now? Collings, put the theme song in earlier. Or now.

Put it in now. I've got something for what we're reading just quickly. Okay, I'm excited to hear it. This is what we're reading segment. Here's the theme song now, actually. All right, great. I'm doing the theme. I'm doing the thing.

I'm reading Batman the Mud Pack from 1999, which is four issues. Which I recommended to you. You recommended to me and also Mike Cabin on Comic Book Club. What do you think about that? It's great. Is it Norm Braithogel on the art? It's Norm Braithel, yeah, written by Alan Grant, not that one. So it's all the clay faces coming together.

And I'm like, man, I don't even know some of these. One of them's a melty man in a suit. Who's in love of the mannequin. It's crazy. Yeah. This is what Batman was in the 80s. Shit's unreal. I love it.

It's also, what is interesting about it is this, this is an era where, where Batman would just get beaten up all the time. He's getting beaten up. He's covered in mud. He's not invincible yet. No. He's like, there's a lot of really strong guys who are trying to kill me.

A mud man attacked me. I don't know what's going on. There's a mud man. Batman Dark Patterns is more like that. That feels like this kind of era. Anyway, it's great. I'm really enjoying it. Yeah.

And it's just four issues just out of the blue in the middle of a Batman one. It's like Issues 607 or whatever. There's an issue around this era where, there's a guy in Gotham and he creates a tulper, which is like a monster from like, it's like a monster. Like a golem?

Yeah, sort of like a golem. Precious, like that? Yeah, like a goal. Yeah. And it's running rampant. Unacceptable. So Batman has to stop, but he also runs a foul of Etrigan,

the demon who's like a, he's a demon that always speaks in rhyme. And he's just, Batman's just like, oh, it's going to be a miracle that I'm going to survive this. Like it's just two invincible guys that he has to fight. He's like, I don't even... I don't know, man.

That was the era. Like, he's white and weird serial killers and the riddler and whatever, but he's also just all these supernatural weirdos are coming at him all the time. Absolutely. Yeah. Ah, man. Anyway, that's what I'm reading. What are you reading?

I guess part of noir. I guess I'm reading. Yeah, I guess I was reading that. I just bought, I don't have it here yet. Drugs. Yeah, I don't have my drugs here yet. But it's, um, it's, um, it's, from Dynamo Comics, it's masks, it's from a few years ago.

And it's basically like... Is it the shadow? Yeah, it's the shadow, the spider, but not that spider. What do they look like? More spider-like. Right or left. It's a team up, right. Oh, yeah.

It's a team up of all the, like, the... Pulp Heroes. Pulp heroes. So it's the shadow, the green hornet, and Cato, the spider, and it's like a team-up. It's written by Chris Roberson and illustrated by... Alex Ross. Oh, Alex Ross is a famous artist.

Yeah. And that's probably why it came up in my feed. And I'm like, I've not read this. I've got to get the first volume, see how it goes. Yeah. So you go. Dude, that's cool. It is cool.

But what I've said. I'm glad you've finally read something. Me too. It's good to read. We should read a book. I'm reading books all the time. Ask me what book I'm reading. I've read it.

What book are you read? House of Leaves. Okay. All right. You know you have it. You're a liar? You think I'm not allowed to read this book? You're going to stop me?

me? You can't stop literacy. What are you the book, Fahrenheit 9-1-1-1? Maybe I am the book, or the movie adaptation of Michael B. Jordan? Maybe I am the book or movie adaptation of Fahrenheit 911. You didn't even know there was a Michael B. Jordan adaptation. You could also argue the equilibrium is a loose adaptation. In a way it is, isn't it? Also, you might say that Stars of Troopers is about fascism. I wouldn't say that. I think it's just a fun action movie. You're one of those people who don't think that's true. Also, we know it's Fahrenheit 4-5-1. before anybody. I don't think that.

Okay. I don't think that. All right. Just to be clear, I'm talking about a different thing. Okay, then. I'm literate. Let's move to the next segment of the show.

What is it? Letters, I think. I'm literate. You are literate, it's true. They call you Mr. Sunday. He's literate. He's literate. Yeah, he's letters.

The classic one was, Letters, oh, letters. We love you. Some letters. They're only a take away. You know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Thank you to John Letters or his brother.

No, Michael Letters for bringing the letters. It was Michael Letters. The letters were already here, so I don't know who brought him this week. Okay, all right, interesting. You got your letters, you got your pile of letters. I got my pile of letters ready here. You don't want to send a pile of letters to Mason, you can out at Weekly Planet Pot at gmail.com

or going to the Planet Broadcasting Greatmates Group. The letters are here because, I mean, I don't trust those guys. So I actually hired someone. Can I trust it? I hired, because I hired, yeah, I had a bookkeeper. What's his name? Who's also her name? Yeah.

I heard a bookkeeper who was also agreed to be a housekeeper. Oh. It names a lot of letters. Really? Yeah, I'll just go and get her. You can meet her. All right. Hello, dearie.

Hello. It's me. I'm loving this. I'm loving this. You must be James, dearie. Yeah, I am. Yeah, good. So, a lot of letters.

You miss a lot of letters? Miss, you're not married? Ms. a lot of letters. You might be married. Yes. Don't think it's any of your letters. business theory. I'm sorry.

This, yep, you're right. As your boss, no? Are you an independent contractor? I'm an independent contractor. Either way, it's none of my business. Thank you for housekeeping, all doing the letters. You're very welcome. Have you met Michael letters?

No. Okay. We're unrelated. You're related. We're unrelated. But you know of him. Learn to listen. So it is a skill that you can develop up.

That is true. It's called active listening. Active listening. I'm all about it, dearie. Are you? Yes. Cool, man. Woman, this is great.

I'm having a great time. Anyway, goodbye forever. I hope so. Do you meet a lot of letters? Yeah, just then. Just now, yeah. How was that as an experience? I didn't like it.

She was very, I mean, she made some good points. I probably pushed a few boundaries that I shouldn't have. Wow, all right. But she was very aggressive from the get-going. I think maybe we'll keep you two apart. I think that would be great for me, to be honest. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, I don't trust those other guys.

You should, but a lot of letters you do. Yeah. Great. Seemed like a nice old Scottish woman. Scott? Yeah, sure. Sure. Yeah.

Mason, what are you got? And didn't look anything like me, I think. I don't think she looked anything like you. That's exactly right. Nobody said that. Do you want to do your letter? I'll do my letters. Do it now.

So, meanwhile, from Ben, who says Malcolm on the big screen. Oh, God. Gidey, boys. Maso, did you know that the Cinemanova's screen? Malcolm this month as part of G'day May. I did know that, but the last screening is at like 5pm today, so I can't see it. Are you going to go see it? No, I'm not going to say it.

Maybe it's time for a caravan and garbage centered around some Aussie classics, or maybe you can enlighten your overseas listeners on some essential Fair Dinkham True Blue films. We've thought about it. If it would do any, it would be the three Crocodile Dundee movies. You think so? I don't know, probably at some point, yeah. Because they're kind of fun throwbacks and insane movies. Because I think people like looking at our...

I mean, we love talking about like the Australian detritus, like all the terrible stuff. Like, we'd always talk about all the stuff that has been rightfully buried. But like, what do you think is essential? Essential Australian viewing. The Yahoo series movies? I could finally watch Mr. Accident. Yeah, we could do those. Yeah.

But why would we do those is the question. They wouldn't do well. None of this would do well. They would all tank. Or do you want to do movies that are good? Do you want to do like a Priscilla Queen of the Desert or a chopper? Yeah. Or a rabbit-proof fence.

I think a lot of people also would be surprised at how many Australian actors that they know from Blockbuster movies. Like, Arrin Rompas or in, you know, something like The Adventures of Priscilla, the Queen of the Desert. Yeah, you might be right. Or the movie Australia with Baz Luhrmann. I don't want to watch that. It's a terrible fucking movie. Awful. Two Hands.

Two Hands is one of my favorite Australian movies. The Nightingale. That's a hot. This is a good movie. Horrible. We should do some Australian stuff. What did the guy who did romper stomped did another thing that was very good. What was it?

He did romping and stomping? He did some romping and stomping. He did two romp, two stomp. It's Jeffrey Wright, and he also directed. The Dry. We did metal skin. What's metal skin? It's got Ben Mendelssohn.

And it's about, yeah, yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of. I don't know this at all. Yeah, yeah. It's about like, it's set in Altona. I love that. And it's about like Hoons. basically. I'd never heard of it.

Who else is in this? Ben Mendelso. I'm looking at these names and I'm like, I don't recognize a lot of these names or faith. I'm Ben Mendo-Mendleton. But that's probably not, that's not like, we'd have to do weird, like, funny novelty stuff, right? Yeah, it would be a Mr. Accident. It would be a Paul Hogan's, whatever. It would be Lightning Jack.

Be Lightning Jack. Which I don't think is even an Australian movie. So he did metal skin after Rompa Stompter, obviously. Damn. This guy's done some movies, some of which I know. Oh, he did. he did Macbeth with Sam Worthington in 2006. Remember that?

Goyoyoy, Macbeth. It's me, Macbeth. Get it's me, Macbeth. Great stuff, based on what you've done there. Yeah, I think people would be amazed. Or like, yeah, like, I mean, Rompestompah, early Russell Crow stuff, anything Hugh Jackman was in before, Wolverine. I mean, there's a lot to pick from. Yeah.

But what's, we'd have to, yeah. But what's, what's entertaining, you know? What is entertaining? What we do, that's entertainment. That's entertainment. That's Aussie culture. Yeah, for sure. Levi says, are you playing First Light, the new

No.7 game? That's that, Mason. Do you have any thoughts on it so far? I've been playing a terrible X-Men film adaptation game because I'm probably going to do that for Never Go back. This is like X-Men 1-2-3 era. Yeah, so there's a game that's set between X-Men 2 and 3 where you can play as Ice Man or...

Maverick. Goose. Or Hugh Jackman. And you kind of rotate between the... You're jacking on the front paper back here. Yeah. So, and it's... He plays Claudia Carvin?

Yes. And so you can mind to the cast and you're like, oh, you've got to go back to Alkalai Lake. I'm like, cool, great. Terrific. I remember this. Okay. Oh, you've got to fight at the Statue Liberty again. Oh, yeah.

Do I? So it's, uh... Anyway, it's interesting. So as always, I was like, oh, maybe this will be the game that we'll finally get... You were telling me that this was big... Maybe this is the game. You love James Bond, 007. Maybe this will be the game that'll get me to finally buy a PS5 Pro.

and I'm like, also, probably the prices have gone down on a PS5. They've gone down for sure. What? To get a PS5 Pro in Australia is $1,400 now. Call the police. I'm going to call the police. What about this or something else? I mean, a variety of things.

Yeah, you know? My various complaints and ailments. Yes. You know, my ankle hurts. I should call the police. Dude, that's crazy. Call the police. Okay, so you've called the police.

Yes. Insane prices of PS5. Right. And who do we blame? Those AI fucking. I think it's the GPU prices or something. Those bastards. Or just generally they're like, we can get more money out of this.

I think all these men should be shot. I think we can all agree on that. Do we agree? Yep. Yep, absolutely. All right, good. How are they that expensive? It's crazy, right?

Still. 1,400 bucks. Yeah. I guess it's $100 per game. Got them. Yeah, nice. Not that many, I guess. Because we're technically verging on a new era of...

Oh, wait, I mean, $100 per game. Yeah, fine. You're good. You got it. Thanks, man. You got it, brother. Thanks, man. We're verging on a new era of game consoles nearly.

But no, we're not even... It's become a $1,500 game, if I want to buy, the first game I want to buy every single time. I got mine... And yes, I know I could buy a digital-only version or a... No, I don't want a digital-only one. Mine's an original one or whatever. And I feel like that was only like $600, maybe.

Maybe it was $700. But it wasn't... Because even those ones, the normal ones that aren't the pro ones. They're not that expensive. They're more expensive than they were when I bought one. James, do you think Sony, a company we have regularly disparate, including a lot this episode, would send me a free PlayStation 5. It's potential. You know, we should speak to the thumb cramps fellas, because they've got some contacts.

We'll see what's up. Okay. We'll speak to Jackson and Joel. Wow. And or. And see what they know. Sure. See what they know.

Yeah, yeah. Listen, also, I got them a PSVita. So it would be fair if they got you a PlayStation 5. They should just give me there. Yeah. No, they get you a new one. Oh, new one. Yeah, I don't want their one.

I was even looking... Imagine the goop that's in their one. Because we were looking up before the show. Like, a PS4 is still like $350 for some reason, like brand new. Right? Crazy. Insane. But anyway, I like the look of first life.

Looks great. I am going to get it. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. It's exactly my type of game. And I love, you know, like, everything or nothing is like my favorite choice one day, but it's like a modern version of that. Yeah, yeah. I even like to Bloodstone the video game.

Yeah. Looks cool. Do you think they could send me a PS5 Pro and the new Omega Cmaster that is in the game that they've made in real life to promote the game, the $10,000 watch? Do you think they could send me those two things for free? Joel and Jackson. If they could send me... Yeah, I reckon they definitely go to the Amiga boutique on Collins Street in Melbourne

and get me one of those watches and then give it to me for free. They can keep the box. No, I'd also like the box. The PS5 box? I like all the boxes. Okay, cool. Yeah. They can keep the wrapping paper that they're...

that they're going to wrap it in for you. Okay, but they have to pay me for that. I should get a rebate. So anyway, I will play First Light. It looks awesome. It does look cool. And by all accounts, is awesome. So perhaps what I will do is instead is I'll show up here to record the podcast

and you'll be playing it and I'll see like two to three minutes of game play a week maybe. Yeah, that's right. Okay. We could sit together. Can we not? Can we not as brothers? I guess we could do that as brothers. Thank you.

That's right. Cool. Great. That's a good letter that I've been. brought. You got another letter? This is from Dom, who says, I agree with James. Thanks. Hi, gents. In your Mando versus Groglet review...

Is it that thing I said about shooting AI billionaires? It's implied, I think. Okay, cool. In your Mando versus Groglet review, James mentions how seeing Dave Filoni and his dumb hat brought him out of the movie a bit. And I completely agree, are there any other not actors who have popped up in movies that throw you? Oh, man.

Mine is Joe Rousseau in Endgame being sad about some date while talking to Cap. Yeah. That is funny. That's a funny one. That's funny. That's funny. That's supposed to be funny, though, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sting, when Sting shows up in something, he's in lockstock? I was going to say, except for lockstock, because he kind of... I guess he sort of suits, though, but you do go, that sting. You do go that sting, yeah. Russell, who's the... Richard Branson is in Superman Returns. Oh, that's right. And James...

And Casino Real also, yes, he's getting metal detected. Fucking crook, by the way. Just quietly. I wonder he was going in the airport. Yeah. Who else? I mean, Trump is in home alone too. That's right.

Because he demands it every time you film in his building or something. He used to anyway? Yeah, and they always edited it out. They'd film and edit out, but that one went in. It's also interesting because he gives Kevin McAllister the wrong directions. He goes down the corner into the left. Okay, right. It goes the other way.

Yeah. Yeah, God, it does happen, though, doesn't it? Those are some good ones, though, that we've already had. Excellent ones. Excellent ones. What about Ed Shearron in Game of Thrones? Game of Thrones. I mean, I was pretty checked out of that show at that point anyway, so...

Yeah, because you love it. No, disagree. Worst cameos in real life. Yes. In movies. I'm just looking through here. I don't know. This Google is bad.

It's like Anchorman. I'm like, I don't think any of those are... Oh, that's right. David Beckham is in fucking King Arthur? Rizzi? Yeah. Huh. That's good.

That's good, actually. Which King Arthur? The Russell. one. No, no, the Cockney Giza one, the Doc-Socke, King Arthur. Is he? Yeah. Did we say that? I did. Interesting.

You were the guy? I was the guy. Wow. Yeah. Tarantino often in movies. He'll show up, won't he? And he'll do, he's in... What is it? What is it? He's in Django, and he's doing a terrible Australian accent. That's right, yeah. It's atrocious. Yeah. And it, it raises more questions than it answers. Yeah, like, what is this? Why is he an Australian guy?

Why is he there? Why is he in America? Is he really Australian? Yeah. At all? Anyway, you got another letter? That was it. Yeah, that was it.

Morgan says, what would you ended up in the back rooms? Okay. All right. Well, I'd finally get my Lamborghini, wouldn't I? I'd get a version of it. Yeah. I'd get like a crayon drawing of a Lamborghini that I could sort of drive around. Swiss and with a weird bloke in it.

Yes. And it's me and then we're best friends. I'm best friends with my weird copy. Nice. Wait, can you interact with you? I mean, because, no, we can't really spoil it, can we? Yeah. What's the worst nightmare scenario be?

What would the worst nightmare scenario be? The podcast movie. Oh, back at school. No, back at school. Oh, my God. But it's a backroom's version. A movie theater showing only Fast and Furious movies? That'd be all right.

Would it be twisted versions of Fast and Furious? Twisted Dom Torretto? Yeah. It's all big. Even bigger. Even bigger Domterto. Even bigger Domterto. Even bigger Domterto and even bigger, the rocks stomping around,

fighting each other. Every bulging muscle on their body is just there. head. Oh. What do you think about that? Awful. For me, it would be a kids party. Yeah.

And I don't know anybody well enough. And it's three hours long. And that's enough. You wouldn't need it infinite. Three hours is enough punishment to me. I still get. Well, what do you do? I still get.

What is this? That's me when someone talks to me. Yeah. I still get having studied for the exam. Sure. Yeah. Dreams. or like you didn't you didn't hand in any of the essays

so this exam is like you got to waste this otherwise you're not passing kind of thing and I'm like I'm very much an adult man I'm approaching senior citizen status I'm still getting these dreams leave me alone dreams Do you remember? So that would be the...

Do you realize in the dream though? Sometimes yeah Yeah and then I'm like I'm leaving this I'm getting my Lamborghini Yeah this is going to be sick when I wake up and get my Lamborghini which is real I get oh you've been

You're at school. You've been enrolled in this math class. Okay. That you haven't gone to for six months. Yeah, right. And now this is coming to a head. And then I go, oh, no. It usually happens that shakes out.

You're an adult man and you have a job and you don't need any of this. And you just leave school. Which is that's always a nice resolution. So you walk out. Do you become an adult? Do you think? I think I always am. I don't really know.

It's kind of a mirror. Yeah. But yeah, they always kind of resolve that way. Okay. Yeah. And I'm like, fuck this. The way to do it. Yeah.

I love how, like, in some, sometimes when somebody realizes they're in a dream, they can fly all of a sudden, but we're like, just walk up. I'm just leaving. I'm just leaving school. I'm just leaving. Just got to walk out the door. Yeah. Are these back rooms appropriate, though?

What? Yeah, okay. I think party is good. Yeah. But like, like. A little space awful party. Yeah. Making conversation.

Although, do you get to, do you get to converse in a liminal space? No, I guess not. Yeah. So it'd just be like, you know what it would be. It'd be the aftermath of a party at your life. house. Oh my God. And all the mess.

The mess is there, but you can't really clean it because there's infinite mess. Some of it's stuck in the floor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be doing your family's laundry. But because there's a laundry scene in that. And that's just all I do anyway. Just constantly doing laundry. You're in the back rooms now?

Maybe. It's not so bad. It'd be, for us, it would be in this room. Except the podcast desk is all like, it's all a simulacca. It's not quite right. And all the levels are wrong. But you can't change them because they'll weld it in. And we've got headphones on so we can hear that they're wrong.

Yeah. And the laptop just says podcast on it. Yeah. Like the screen just says podcast. And neither of us have seen the thing we're talking about. I mean, that wouldn't stop us away, would it? No, it wouldn't. What else you got, Mason?

Some people emailed in about their bug bears and movies. Oh, yeah. Simon says, actors gesturing wildly and pretending to drink from a clearly empty cup, usually with a lid. Yeah, you hate that. He said, put some sand in there and commit. to the bit. Love it. Do you think the reason is they don't put any liquid in is because they were to get wet lips.

You can't have a wet lip. Can't have a wet lip for continuity purposes. Just a wet lip and then suddenly you don't have a wet lip? No, no, no, no. But sand would work. But how many times you're looking at someone drinking and like, look at this wet lip idiot? I don't think it's a big problem. No, that's true.

Yeah, put something in there. Put something in there. Put a jelly in there. Put a, put a, put a magic eight ball in there. Put a, put a, give them a coffee cup, full of mercury. Give him a copy of, uh, uh, coffee cup of, uh, uh, uh, Fahrenheit 911. Give him a copy of Fahrenheit 911.

Just stuff the DVD, crack the DVD in half and stick it in line. Michael B. Jordan. That's right. Michael B. Jordan's there. And Alastair said, when we see CTV footage of an event in a movie, it's just that same angle and everything we saw when we saw it earlier. Especially if there's an angle change. There's a cut in the CCTV footage.

Yeah. Yeah. Don't like it. There's a guy sneaking around my neighborhood trying to get into people's cars. What? He's there. So there's footage of him. He came, he got into my car or tried to.

And it's just a fun little neighborhood adventure that's happening. How are the locks on your doors now? Are they flying? I have my way. I think he might have got in or you opened the door and then just like rummage around and left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's nothing in my car. You find out there's a lot of people I think who just try all the door handles down in the neighborhood or whatever.

Yeah. But my house is always locked. Secure. Yeah. And the studio is always secure. And I've always got a hundred knives. You say you tell me that you buy a new illegal knife every day. Yeah.

So you've always got one at hand. Once I tried to buy a legal knife and there was no thrill. Yeah, exactly right. We stab a man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fine. Yeah. But when you stab someone with an illegal knife.

That's perfect, isn't it? That's how you know you're living. Yeah, you're really living. Yeah, man. Yeah. What was the question? How many illegal knives do you have is the question? A lot.

Yeah, wow. Yeah. I got another one. Okay, I'm ready. Joust says, are you boys light or heavy sleepers? Post it 4 am because one of the dogs was stiffing around. bonus queue is Olly allowed on the bed slash other furniture rules. Yeah, man, Olly can go anywhere. The thing about, I feel like, and I was talking to someone about this today,

when I was kids, I feel like dogs were just outside. Yeah, the dogs were not inside. Maybe it was an Australian thing, but you just did not have your dog in the house. Yeah. Whereas like everyone's dog now is in and out and whatever, which I think is better. Your family has sort of started as country people. Yes, simple country folk. Simple country folk. And I like to think, I like to think I'd bring a little that charm me, that country family charmier. But farm folk don't, this is an unfair generalisation, but I feel like some farm folk. Simple folk. Simple brain, simpletons. Some people say salt to the earth, but I say dumb people.

Some simple, some, some, sculled morons. Some simple farm folk, they don't, like a dog is like a tool on the farm. And it's like, well, the dog died, get another dog kind of thing. And that's, you know, that's, but that's not a, you, dogs is part of the family. We're vaping together. That's exactly right. You're vaping. They're recommending illegal knives to you.

You put two illegal knives on the table and Ollie's like that one. This one, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one's for stabbing. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you put an illegal knife in her mouth as you go on for a walk and she'll swing it while. I'll tape a knife to her head and just let her run around the streets. Exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm a light sleeper, I think. Yeah. I slept terribly last night. Okay. Yeah. Depends.

It's expected the quality of the podcast, that would have. Definitely not. It depends. I would say I'm pretty, I don't know. I mean, I will wake up if something happens, but it won't be like a tiny thing. It'll have to be like, so I would say I'm probably a pretty heavy sleeper, I would say. But also with kids, I'm always kind of like. Alert.

Yeah, yeah. What if they get into their knives? Exactly. Yeah. Which is good. That's exactly right. What if they get into my knives? Thank God.

They're following in my footsteps. Let's tape knives to the dog. If I have anything important to do early the next day, I'm going to have a terrible sleep. That'll fuck you right up. Yeah, yeah. If I've got an early start, that'll fuck my previous. My brain will go like, you've got to go to sleep now. Yeah.

Well, guess what you're on. Don't you know how stressed you are and will be if you do. I do know, brain. Thank you. But don't you know? Thank you so much. Yeah. Douglas says, got two tickets I have to use before December. I think it's Douglas.

Douglas says, I went to the movies for the first time since the Martian to watch Project Hail Mary. Nice. Wow. That's a movie. Not so great. It was Hoytzap, mistakenly charging me twice for my ticket and snacks. That sucks, actually. Rather than refund the duplicate.

They insisted they could only give me two tickets that have to be used before November ends. Wake me up. Before November ends to go to the movies. What two movies are coming up this year that you're excited for or might recommend? Okay. If we're talking big movies. In the Grey, Guy Ritchie. Mandalorian and Groglet.

Your big movie. Guy Ritchie. Guy Ritchie's there. I would say, the Odyssey. Yep. You're getting your bang for your buck. You've got to get your bang for the buck. And either Clayface or Dune Messiah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you might be like, what about Street Fighter? What about, oh, Resident Evil, fuck. Depends on what you like. Yeah. I would pick Resident Evil. I like Bad Movies. What would you recommend?

If Bad Movies? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Moana, live action. What about Dracula Rise of the Vampire? Yeah, that sounds really good. I thought you said bad movies. It's got, uh, it's got Eileen Daly and Dean Meadows. I love Dean Meadows.

I can watch it now for free. Well, then don't pay for it, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would watch scary movies. for that joke where they go, I'm actually, she, her, or whatever. Yeah, right. It's a good joke.

You gotta get, when you get a free ticket. When you get a free ticket. You can't see, you can't see a scary movie on a free ticket. I don't know why that, how do you feel about it? I don't know. I would see Resident Evil on a free ticket.

Yeah. Are you saying because you want to contribute to society? I don't know. I just. You want to see a big epic adventure? See, my brain goes, okay, well, scary movie's probably not going to be that good. So why am I paying for it?

But at the same time, I'm like, Why am I wasting a free ticket on it? Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? I would never see that movie. Odyssey's a great choice because it's a big movie. It's big movie. It's big movie.

And you're getting a lot of movie for your free ticket. I'm going to say Odyssey and Resident Evil. Especially if you liked Zach Craig's last work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So those are my two. I'm going to say the Odyssey and that vampire, Dracula. Dracula rising up untold vampires. Dracula's back.

Bacular. Dracula's. Bacula and he's Scott Bacula. Andy has back acne. Back acne, Dracula. Call me backac drac drac, he says. That's his catchphrase. Yeah, don't take my Dracula cape off because you'll see it on my backney. I don't like that. It's actually vulnerability and I don't like you looking at it. Do you reckon Dracula would get acne or that'll clear up when you get bit? I think so, yeah. I think you're pristine. Yeah. Unless you're a Nosphiriteu style back. Yeah, that's true. Which case it's way worse. Or the Gary Old

one or sometimes you turn into a stack of rats. Yeah. When he turned into a stackeracula. Stackoracula with backack. Sometimes this is fun to rhyme words. His rindorow words also don't turn into a stack of rats. That's awful. Stop doing that.

Shakespeare would be weeping if you could hear us talking about stack of rats, rat stack a Dracula with back acne. He's like, wow, they did it. They've done it. They perfected. Somebody finally surpassed. They perfected the English language. language that I invented, they would say.

Me, big Willie Shakespeare. Exactly. They've done it. I'm going to say The Odyssey and... Dracula memories. Probably, um... Was it Doomsday? What's the next one?

What's the next event? Yeah, Doom's Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a big one. Yeah, yeah. Which is why I'd probably say June. If you've got two big ones... And in my mental calculation, if it's bad,

Free Avengers movie. Free Avengers movie. And if it's good, you can watch Chris Evans go, that's big movie. And then you can watch one of the Russo brothers go, I'm gay. And that's a good thing to see in a movie.

Yes. Yeah, it's brave. Is that the show? Is he gay in real life? No, he's not. I don't think either of the bar. Not that that,

you know, you can play gay if you're straight. I'm sure you can. It's totally fine. As a vanity casting in your own movie, though? That's the, that's a crucial moment in history that you're just passing by.

It's the first openly gay MCU character. Yes, that's true. Just a guy. One of the Russo brothers. It's crucial. It's crucial. It is crucial. It's crucial.

Anyway, go on. That's the whole show, I think. Folks, thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast because that is how we get new listeners. Yeah, it is. And thank you for leaving a fire story review

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Listen to it. It's always funny, but it's even better when James goes crazy over local zoning and politics. It's from the USA. And this is from Jay Alegren from the USA says, Sloats. I'm running this five-star review because I'm assuming James did not reveal his recipe for slow oats, slotes with Greek yogurt at the start of the next episode, like he said he would. And I would like to hear it.

I think I did do that, actually. But if I'd forgotten somebody else right, and let me know and I'll do it. Exactly right. I'm not doing it. If I don't have to do it, I've already done it. It's right. I'm embarrassing. I won't do it again.

What if there's a discrepancy as well in the two? in the two recipes. Yeah, exactly. Well, I'm always tweaking it. I'm always perfecting it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm actually doing a pit of bread, pita bread pizza slow oats. Come on, man.

Don't do this to us. Don't do it. Don't do it. It's already happening. Wow. It's like the end of Watchmen. I've already done it. Oh, no.

It happened three hours ago. And I flash back to all the implements in the kitchen that I walked past. It came in here. I'm like, oh, no, we did it. And his kids ate it. And they're like, And I'm like, yeah. Wow.

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Better and we're weirder than everything we've done in this. I don't know about everything. Do you agree? I don't. Thank you, the Brut and the Bassist can rack and prolly musical themes. If you want a T-shirt, you're going to T-Public.com. You search for the weekly planet, a weekly planet posters. Get a weird t-shirt.

Yeah. Go to the movies wearing a weird t-shirt. Somebody would be like, what's that? You'd be like, never you mind. Don't worry about it. Get out of here. Don't tell them either. Don't tell them.

None of your business. Yeah. See, none of your business. Yeah, it's a reference to none of your business. Yeah. Yeah, it's a reference to Nunya, and they'll say, what do you mean? You go, none of your business. Yeah, and then they go, oh, you got me.

Yeah, and you start a fight. It's easy. It's easy to start a fight. In a cinema, it's easy to start a fight. It's not easy to win, but it's easy to start a fight. Next week, in the grey. Hell yeah, no. Master the Universe?

A bigger movie than in the grey, a movie that made no money. Let's have a look, in the grey box office. It says it didn't come out. Wow. It says it just disappeared. Wow. And it's made $13 million. That's not enough.

More than that. I don't know. 50 maybe? Yeah, probably. If you want to watch a boring low-stakes Guy Ritchie movie based on your ballroom? Jay, Gyllenhauls in it? I know.

Henry Cavill's in it? Henry Cavill? I know. The budget was between $40 and $59 million. Wow, it hasn't made us money back then. Yeah. Disclosure Day. Next week, week after that.

Yeah, yeah. Look, no. To talk to that. Yeah. People are saying it's Spielberg's best movie since a movie he made, Ready Player 1. Wow. Cool.

Wow. Thanks, everyone. I'll grab out, Jeremy, you guys. We'll see next week for In The Grey. What? In The Grey? No. All right.

All right. No! Now you got me saying it. No. Yeah.