The Weekly Planet - 630 Best/Worst Comic Adaptations & The Death of Physical Media

Episode Date: July 6, 2026

Incredible week for doing a great podcast! In this latest episode of The Weekly Planet we talk the best and worst comic adaptation choices from modern and decades past. We also discuss the further dea...th of physical media with Sony Playstation not creating physical disks after 2028, confirmation that the Minions didn’t work with Hitler, new details on Danny McBrides G.I. Joe adaptation, a trailer for Robert Egger's Werwulf, James Gunn potentially directing the DCU Batman movie, potentially casting news for Bruce Wayne plus the fallout and blame game behind Supergirl. Thanks for listening!New bonus podcast and video out now! It's a special Batman-themed Booque Clubbe available to watch or listen to with entire back catalogue on bigsandwich.co, patreon.com/mrsundaymovies or YouTube Memberships on youtube.com/mrsundaymoviesPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start06:23 Sony Kills Physical Games Releases22:24 Did The Minions Work for Hitler?24:40 James & Maso's Tangent Time28:15 New G.I. Movie Confirmed31:07 Werwulf Trailer & First Look34:31 James Gunn's Batman Movie Takeover37:04 Supergirl, What Went Wrong?47:05 Best & Worst Comic to Movie Adaptations01:29:25 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:40:04 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Welcome back everybody to another episode of the weekly planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. You had so, you were going to say something? I was going to interrupt. My name is James, what are you going to say? My name is James also known as Mr. Sunday, and with me as always is the ever interrupting, but they're not wanting to say anything, Nick Mason.
Starting point is 00:00:18 He'll kill the flow of something, but then he won't contribute. Correct. Which is interesting. It's interesting. It is. It's not as much fun when I can't interrupt. You left a space for you thought I was going to interrupt, so you left a space. You put your hands up.
Starting point is 00:00:32 You've got to say something. Yeah, but I forgot what it was now. I think you put your hands up thinking that something would happen. I remembered you were saying welcome and I was going to go, welcome in a really dramatic way. Do you want to do it now? No, we can dub it in. We won't. Somebody could.
Starting point is 00:00:47 If Collings puts that in, it won't make any sense. Correct. But it won't make any less sense than most of our output over the years. It's a great point, actually. Really good stuff, Mason. You like movies and comics and TV shows and whatever? I do like movies and comics and TV shows. And video games?
Starting point is 00:01:03 I would say more so than ever. Oh, wow, really? Yeah, that's right. I'm always looking at an old movie and going, hmm, that has value. Yeah. You know, this is valuable to me. In what way? Because you physically own it?
Starting point is 00:01:15 Or because you can get it on a streaming service. Yeah, I can usually, a bunch of old stuff I can watch on streaming on YouTube. And I have like a, I would say I have a weak window, like a week long window. You do have a very weak window. I've got a very weak window fixed. Why don't you get that window fixed? It's made of Gladwrap and cheese. Sorry, you were saying.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I've got about your weak cheese. Glad Rap Window, what you're saying? I've got about a week where I can just expound on the virtues of this movie and go, here's an interesting fact about this old movie. And people are like, wow, he knows a lot about old movies. That one movie. I just know about one movie for this one week.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I can do this with old movies and also like, you know, you know joke book jokes. Yeah. I can basically hold one joke book joke in my head at a time. The whole book? No, just the one joke. Oh, okay, right. And if anybody tell, you know, some people.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Tell a joke. somebody who got an endless library of like all those old jokes a guy walks into a bar or whatever. I hate those. Yeah, I know. Get a real personality. Like I do. Pop culture. But if anybody tells me another one, it just pushes the old one out.
Starting point is 00:02:13 What are you at the moment? It's the one where it is a cowboy joke. Okay. I'll say it for later. Oh, my God. Yeah. This is boring. Well, the joke would be more boring.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Like to just tell an old joke book joke on a podcast, already a cripplingly bad medium. To be like, you know, we'll add also joke book jokes to it. Mason, podcasts are good. They can get president-selected. Anyway, this week, we're actually, we're not doing big movie or big TV show, are we? No big movie out this week. I mean, there is always stuff happening. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:47 But there is a brief respite in content. Thank God. Where we could do a topic episode. We're going to be talking about best and worst comic adaptations. That's right. Because recently we had Supergirl, of course, and they made some changes that both me and you thought were really good. And I think we're also going to, we're going to talk about like, adaptations. overall, but also like when they adapt something to a comic book to a movie, for example,
Starting point is 00:03:10 the smaller changes they might make within that movie, like for good or real. That's right. And we have a bunch of people who have on the Patreon and also on the Planet Broadbussing Greatmates group that are contributing to that as well. We're also going to bring your own ideas. I'm thinking I'm just going to use their ideas. I'm just going to read out of a Facebook group. Well, I have both.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Interesting. I'm just going to do the one, which is take it out of the Facebook group. Great. I'll do the Patreon then. Next week, Evil Dead Burn is coming out. And also Moana. Live action Moana. Which I am definitely going to see.
Starting point is 00:03:40 And I might see if I have time. You don't have to, because my kids are on school holidays, so I have to see it. You don't have to see it. Why couldn't they have been on school holidays for whatever we talked about last week? The tanked Supergirl. I took one of them at least. Oh, yes? What do they think?
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah, that was all right. Oh, that's right. We'd be talking about that. Yeah. But also we've got some news in the lead up. We're going to talk about PlayStation stopping the physical release of games, among other things. Come on, PlayStation. We're going to talk about if minions ever worked for Hitler.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Come on, Hitler. Get it together, Hitler. We're going to talk about the next G.I. Joe movie that's definitely happening. Did that sound too encouraging towards Hitler? Yeah, I mean, when you said, come on, Hitler. Yeah. Come on, Hitler. Stop being a bad guy. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:22 There we got. I mean, he did. He did, didn't he? Good on you, Hitler. Oh, no. Good for you, Hitler. Stop saying it. Also, these actions have echoed through time in a bad way.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Agreed. Yeah. We're going to talk about, yeah, G. Joe, I mentioned that. We've got a trailer for World War.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Hitler did, Hitler did kill Hitler. He killed Hitler. So that's good. And then we're going to talk about some Batman stuff, as in some potential casting. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:04:46 It might be Tim Brittman or something. Tom British, man. Nice. And then how Supergirl the fallout from that and who did it. Who's stabbing everybody else in the back? Who's got the hot goss? This feels like control PR. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:04:59 to be like, well, one person is to blame. How could you pin this on one person? There's so many people involved in making a movie that is certainly not my fault. But if you believe the internet, it's all the women involved in the movie and nobody else.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I would, just to get ahead of this, it's not our fault. We have said some things in the past about certain dictators. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To suggest we support them. One of the size, yeah. You said that. No. You always talking about, you always having good stuff to say about idiot, men.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I don't think I've ever said anything good about idiotic men. You said, okay, all right. You're always glazing slobadan Velosovich. That is true. But you don't, you know, he's different in real life. Yep. But anyway, everybody is over in Supergirls like, you can't, you can't, you can't, you certainly can't fire me. Don't you love it when someone, that's true.
Starting point is 00:05:51 When someone meets like somebody awful, like the president and they're like, no, he was actually nice in person. Was he? Yeah, in that two-minute interaction. That's interesting. He didn't go, hey, fuck you and try to like cut your throat. That's weird. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:06:03 In the Oval Office? He didn't try and shoot you. That's weird. With all the cameras, he didn't shoot you in the Oval Office. You made a joke. That's interesting. He likes food. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Wow. Yeah. Peter Dutton. Wow. Surprisingly down to earth, was he? Yeah. Okay. Down to earth in hell.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yes. Anyway, that's started here. PlayStation will stop releasing physical games in January of 2028. That's too soon. So new games will still be able to be brought in shops, but they will come with a digital code. So, okay. So GTA6 are doing this as well.
Starting point is 00:06:37 So why bother also? So you get the box. Yeah, so you can go get a box. Remember when video games used to have things in the box? Instruction manual. Instructions and also the game. It's weird because the instruction manual was entirely unnecessary because the game had two buttons.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And you just had to figure out in the first two seconds of the game which one was jump and which one was shoot. And you were sorted. But they had a whole manual. It was like, you're going to look at all the denizens of the magical kingdom. And this guy's got a little, he's a snorkel man. isn't he? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:03 You've got to watch out for him because he will attack you. But it doesn't. I know, manual. They're all going to attack you. Everything in this game is attacking big time. Yeah. Yeah. It never gives you any useful information, does it?
Starting point is 00:07:13 No. Yeah. You don't know how to do the Simon's Quest magic whistle or whatever happened in that game. Yeah. The instruction manual for Simon's Quest, Castlevania 2, should have been like, this game is going to lead you up the garden path multiple times with riddles that make no sense. Yep. Because they were badly translated.
Starting point is 00:07:27 That's right. Yeah. Yeah. You might finish it in 20 years if you come back to this because you watch the angry video game, no, but realistically you always. you won't. When I bought metal gear on the NES, it did have a big map of the entire game. Big map. Because clearly people were like
Starting point is 00:07:38 we don't know what is happening. Hideo Kajima, we don't know your deal yet, but it is inscrutable. But you do like the movie Supergirl? He does like the movie Supergirl, yeah. But yeah, so this is also off the back of, as I mentioned, GTA6 is selling an empty box upon its initial release? Sure. Yeah. So only have said this move came as... And a model dumb butt burger or whatever. I don't know. It doesn't? Is that what
Starting point is 00:08:00 they doing? No, I don't know. You know what they Like, it's satire. It is satire. Eat a dumb butt burger. Yeah. Oh, I'm listening to dumb politics radio. That's what this is, by the way. That's right.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Dom politics radio for idiots. That's right. This is satire radio, Godfm. With your host Tucker asshole. You know? Hey, man. And so on. And so on and so forth.
Starting point is 00:08:24 As consumer, this is what Sony said. As consumer preferences in the broader entertainment industry continue to shift away from physical disc to digital. That's why they're doing it. Yeah. You don't know anything, Sony. You released Morbi is twice. You don't know anything about consumer preferences.
Starting point is 00:08:38 You're this stupidest company that exists. And that's saying something. They tricked you. They tricked you. We don't want this thing that you're pitching. Well, there's a reason to bring back big cartridges. They know that, right? Yeah, of course they do.
Starting point is 00:08:53 This also comes off the back of the PS feeder and PS3 stores will close in July of 2027. That was going to happen a few years back and they pushed it now. They also removed 500. plus movie titles from their platform due to licensing. That's even including movies you purchased. That's right. No refund, by the way.
Starting point is 00:09:10 They're like, it's a licensing thing, et cetera. Yeah. Yeah, but you could have renewed that if you wanted to. You're fucking Sony. Oh, yeah, a lot of it would be Sony movies probably. My understanding is there are a lot of places in the world now that are changing the rules around that where if you go to a streaming platform or something, instead of it saying buy a movie, it will say purchase a license.
Starting point is 00:09:32 temporarily or whatever it is. And it'll have to say up front, we can just revoke your access to this. This is ours, by the way, yeah. We own your TV now. Yep. You've agreed to purchase this so we can go in your house and take your TV. Is it Sony at the patent where if you got an ad, you'd have to stand up and say McDonald's. Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah, that blueprint has circulated on the internet. I don't know if it's Sony specifically, but yeah. Yeah. Awful. Dystopian universe. I think you can find good. Yeah, it is good actually. Look, also, like, I understand this is the future.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I understand digital platforms are a preference for a lot of, maybe even most people. Steam has been digital for how long, forever. Yeah. You know, and whatever. Like, I understand, but for me, it's more about, like, ownership. Yeah, and the idea of what you're really getting for anything now is a temporary license which can be revoked at any time. Yeah. Which we've seen also, like, this week, because they took 500 movies away.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And also the idea that as, as game... are not only getting bigger, they are getting more expensive. Yep. And a lot of people can't afford. You know, GTA6 might be a hundred US dollar game when it comes out. And a lot of people not necessarily going to be able to afford that, but in, you know, in years past, if you somebody would buy the game, finish in a week, take it to EB games or game stop or whatever and sell it. And then the people could buy it on the secondary market. They could just buy the disc for less than that.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Or borrow it from a friend. Borrow it from a friend. Or an enemy. It doesn't matter. Exactly. Yeah. steal it from an enemy. That means also, yeah, they can just basically charge that you will always have to purchase a game.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Yes. You can never lend it to somebody. Of course, there's that famous video of Sony being like this. So you lend a game and you just hand it to somebody. This is also an era where, when I talk about this, I talk about it recently, where games aren't even fully on the disc anymore. Absolutely. You have to install it and then you have to download a patch or the rest of the game or whatever. I would say that for some people, that would be the justification of like, well, it's only one more step and you don't get the full game or whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:27 But like. Also, they could have invented a new format that can hold an entire game. Yeah, I've got one. It's called My Dreams and my imagination. I already invented it. You can't download that? Yeah, I got the patent on it. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:11:40 But you know what I mean? If Sony wanted to, they could have invented a new form of physical media. For sure. And also, this is... A cartridge. A cartridge, for example. Big cartridge. Big cartridge.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Big as your car. This is also a way to charge for the same amount of money for something which... has no production cost. Which means you don't even have to physically hand somebody or make anything. It's because it's endlessly scalable at very little cost. They're not passing on the savings to people for this. No. I guess, and again, the idea behind it sucks.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Yeah, exactly, because it does. You know, the big game, of course, is going to be GTA 6, which is coming out next, this year, this year, I don't know. Because obviously they're going to be like, well, we'd need to press a billion disks or whatever, but like... Yeah, well, do it. Yeah, do it, do it, cowards. You don't want to see that?
Starting point is 00:12:33 You don't want to see a factory with trucks with a billion discs coming out of it? I do want that way. I want to see that and they're golden shiny. They're like we've made even more golden discs. They're beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. And look, I'm sure in like...
Starting point is 00:12:45 And the GTA girl give you a big kiss when you buy it. No, thank you. I'm sure that like in 20 years you'd be able to get all these games on an old cartridge or whatever. Yeah, yeah. And anything like that. But honestly, for me, if this is the... the future of Sony, which I guess it is, I'm out. Like, I'm probably...
Starting point is 00:13:02 Wow. Also, like... You're turning you back on Madam Webb? Well, I don't even play... Yes. I don't even play... No, just video games or this particular console. Like, I may as well just have a PC.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yeah. Like, because you're basically giving me a PC now anyway. I can't play my old games on it because it won't be backwards compatible because I won't have a disc in it. Yeah, yeah. Also, this might be a way for them to reverse and then go and people go, yeah, you did it or whatever. You did it. Your heroes, actually.
Starting point is 00:13:25 We like Sony now. Yeah. A new sentence that's never been. been said before. We like Sony now. Something that has also been pointed out as well, a lot of the game, you know, there are a lot of licensed games that were available, you know, years ago on a disc, but also digitally. And because the licensing has expired, a lot of the Marvel games, you know, they make Ultimate Alliance or what have you. The license expires, so they get deleted from online storefronts. But if you have a physical copy, you can still play that game,
Starting point is 00:13:52 whereas now anything that is digital only, you know. Exactly. Game preservation is like, it's huge deal for people and especially for collectors. And again, I know that, like, I know digital is the future. This was always going to happen. I think children are our future. Children are also the future. They don't even like us, though. They're not going to help.
Starting point is 00:14:08 It's true. They stare right through you, these kids. They don't like us. They don't like us. And that's fine. That's fine. We like them, but we don't care if they don't like us. But if a kid was like, give me a thumbs up on the street, it would be right.
Starting point is 00:14:21 You know what happened the other week? Yes. I was on a swing at the park. All right. And I jumped off the swing. Like, like, as it was. going up and I landed,
Starting point is 00:14:29 which is a dangerous thing Superhero landing. I landed normal. Nice. And like a 10 year old girl said to me, unironically, I didn't know her,
Starting point is 00:14:37 she said sick jump. Wow. And I was like, fuck, that's made my year. And you're like, mind your language. I just want to be clear,
Starting point is 00:14:46 unironically, unless I couldn't detect it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a moment where kids tip over from like, because I,
Starting point is 00:14:55 you know, at my work, like people wave. as I go past because I'm so famous. But like there's a moment where kids will tip over from like, I'm waving because it's fun to like, I'm waving ironically.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yeah. And if you wave back, they're like, oh, they'll go waves. They'll go wave back. I'm waving to him. I'll perform the basic social function. I'm waving to him and he waved back because that is a common thing you do
Starting point is 00:15:16 with somebody waves. That's actually funny. He's stupid. He's stupid because he's waiting. I got him. I got him. I got him. They did get you though.
Starting point is 00:15:23 They got me. It's true, actually. Yeah. This is also related kids or whatever. I was walking my dog the other day and I crossed your fur baby as you call. I would never say that. I crossed a bridge and
Starting point is 00:15:36 lining both sides of that bridge was like 25 teenagers. And I'm like oh fuck. Like this is they're going to fucking they're going to cut me to the call with something they're going to go nice shirt and you're like this is just a regular shirt what happened? When did this
Starting point is 00:15:52 shirt become a bad shirt? But the dog saved me I reckon oh yeah. They're like yeah everyone's looking at the dog. No one's looking at the man. Yeah, nice. I was like, oh,
Starting point is 00:16:00 this is a bad dream. Yeah. Because you cannot win. I cannot say anything. Yeah. I don't, you can't physically assault children.
Starting point is 00:16:08 It's not allowed anymore. I don't have a witty enough comeback. We don't have a clip around the, we can't, we can't, we don't have a response that is the clip around the year anymore. I reckon if I tipped one of them off the bridge into the water. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:18 They'd respect you. That's right. And would get around the town. Yeah, but also like, you're the bridge tipper. They'd do that to me. They would.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah, Exactly, yeah. And that's the, I mean, that would be the, that would be back in the olden days when people were allowed to hit kids, they shouldn't have done it, but when people are like, I'm just going to clip a kid around. The most embarrassing thing in the world would be if you went to clip a kid around the year and they, like, threw you off a bridge. That would be so embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:16:43 You'd be the bridge tip. And they'd film it. They'd film it now. And you'd be the bad guy. Yeah, he'd be the bad guy. So the guy trying to beat up Jack Ritcher. What were you thinking? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:16:52 He's got a helmet camera. He's going to beat you up. He'll beat you up. Anyway, Sony. Yeah. What are they doing? Yeah, doing what they're doing what those bean counters want. I also think that like people, not all people.
Starting point is 00:17:03 The future where we don't own anything. Exactly. That's all it is. Again, things should be digital. Yes. Because that's the way some people live their life, a lot of people. But it's the preservation that worries me. If there were airtight laws in place where you meant that you kept that forever, I would have less of a problem with this.
Starting point is 00:17:22 But there isn't. And they never will be. Like if you purchase the digital. movie or the digital game and it went to your system, like you downloaded it. And it was, and it was like a locked box. Blockchain. Locked box. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:36 That would be good. That would be okay. But the fact that, again, they can reach into your TV or your system and just be like, we'll have that back. Thank you. Because you better believe if they could come to your house and like take your physical DVDs away to make you purchase them. They would.
Starting point is 00:17:48 There is a Sony lawyer right now in the soon-to-be-defunct physical media section. Yeah. And they're just combing through. like all the fine print on the back of DVDs at Blu-Razer, whatever being like, there's got to be something where we can do this. Yeah. And you know what's interesting also? And I don't know if this is related.
Starting point is 00:18:05 It's probably not, but YouTube I've noticed in the last year or so, they've ramped up their copyright stuff, proper rights. Because people probably know this, but if you upload something to YouTube and there's an automatic detection system in place that says, oh, you use it a clip from this movie and this company owns this now. And then you've got to go a process of an appeal and takes about 30 days. and then you always win because it comes under fair use. But by that point, the monetization window is gone.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Well, that, because sometimes it gets like killed by the algorithm, but also the money goes in escrow. So it will earn money and it sits in between you. Yeah. And then it finally goes to it. The winning gets the money. Yeah. But it's ramped up like a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:45 And it's just, it's like fucking annoying. And it's also, because you've got to go through it for every single video and there's an appeal where they appeal, your appeal. Yeah, right. And then there's a final thing. And the final step is they have to take you. to court, which no one has ever done yet. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's also, but yeah, no, exactly, because it's essentially like any method, any method that the company can
Starting point is 00:19:05 to scrape an extra few dollars. And it's like, okay, well, if, if we just put out a, I guess, I assume it's a bot or a script or something like that. And it just goes, okay, well, if a hundred people put out a video on, say, the great movie gods of Egypt, sure, for example. For example. For example. And it makes, you know, they make a couple of thousand Well, we can have that $1,000 more. It's $1,000 more than we had and it costs us nothing. Absolutely. And I think what the annoying thing is, because of Google.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And they're just doing it to cover themselves is like, I've had this channel for 10 plus years. I have never just uploaded a fucking movie. Right. And obviously at this point, I'm not going to, right? I mean, one time, actually more than one time we put, didn't we put an entire movie in a video and we scrubbed through it really fast? But it's not, it's obviously not really, right? And the idea of obviously is that. Also, that didn't get flagged.
Starting point is 00:19:54 A lot of, you know, a lot of the videos that we make are supposed to be bound legally by fair use. They are. The idea being like, we're talking, we've got clips from a movie, but we're talking about them. We're using them to illustrate. It's not just the movie, which is where the value is. I wish. Exactly. That'll be way easier.
Starting point is 00:20:16 But you can use clips from a movie or a TV show or something to review it. And like, it's transformed in a way because it's a review. and you need to show the movie for illustrative purposes and will often have like other effects over the top and all this sort of stuff. And it's only ever six second clips at a time or whatever. And in theory, they should just leave you alone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:35 But because they're a larger entity, they're just like, well, we'll give it a go, won't we? Absolutely. And most people would just give up. Yeah. There's no like, the fact that there's no like even trust that I wouldn't, that I would do that. But it doesn't work in reverse.
Starting point is 00:20:51 They automatically side with. the, you can't, then turn around and make a complaint that they wasted your time or, you know, they interrupted your income or whatever and they, and they would get a penalty. Yeah, it doesn't, doesn't work like that. Yeah. Well, must be nice. Yeah, it's really nice. Anyways, do you know we have a subscription service ourselves? Oh, interesting. We have Big sandwich also. We also have, Big Sandwich.com. Patreon, that's right. And also there's YouTube membership now, but that's rolling out a bit differently because it's for people who don't want everything all at once. Last week, we did an air, through of the X-Men official game, not the full game, but just the cool bits.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Oh, the cool bits. But at Alan Cumming, he was back as Nightcrawler in it, and Hugh Jackman and Sean or Aaron Ashmore. But this week, we did a comic book club for the mud pack. Yes, which is a late 80s, I think, or early 90s detective comics run. You picked this one. I did, because I remember very fondly reading it as a kid. Yeah. And it's the various clay faces of the DC universe teaming up for nefarious purposes.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Great writing, great art. Yep. Tremendous stuff. Absolutely. So that's available on those places. It's edited by Sarabi as well. So these are video podcasts now. It does a fantastic job if you are interested in checking those out.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Yeah, you can look at all that content. I love looking at content. And you can download and keep it. Should that be our tagline? Look at all this content. Look at all this content, please. You can. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Thinking about looking at content question mark? Well, you can. Don't be afraid. Be not afraid. You don't need to be afraid. Anyway, we're over 20 minutes. Let's do another topic. Let's do another topic.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Polygon, they spoke to Minions and Monsters director, Pierre Coffin. Oh, yes. I didn't even know he was ill. But he was coughing. Then he got put in a coffin. I left a gap there because I knew you were going to do something, whip smart. That's right. And you did.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yeah. Yeah. The title of the headline is, Minions and Monsters Director makes it clear Minions never worked for Hitler. Filet minions. Thank you. I don't know. I didn't live a gap.
Starting point is 00:22:50 No, I know. Because I knew you couldn't do it. That's right. And you were correct. Because that's not, it's a complete non-sequent. I don't even know where I was going with that. So if you don't know the minions, which you do. I've not seen a minions or a despicable me, but I'm aware. You understand they're from the dinosaur times,
Starting point is 00:23:06 and they're always looking for the biggest villain throughout history to hang out with. Now, clarify for me for me again, once again, in dinosaur times, did they wear the overalls? Yeah, they were like fur overalls or whatever. Yeah, yeah. And so they're from the dinosaur times, and throughout history, they work for the most evil man. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Or the most evil person, which is why they work for Stephen Corral or whatever in the thing. But then the question is always arisen, well, would they have worked for Hitler? Or gerbils. Yeah, all gerbils. They said, so the minions that we know from minions one,
Starting point is 00:23:36 but they were locked in a cave. We're stuck in the cave. Which also implies to me. There's more minions. Well, that, and if they weren't, if they weren't in the cave. They would have worked for Hitler. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Yeah. It's what isn't said, isn't it? Yeah, exactly. About these children. children's movies. They mean comically evil. They don't mean Hitler. No, I don't, yeah, they're not doing yet.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Or Slobodan Milosevic. Would they have worked for Slobodan, Milosevic? Give him a chance in real life. Yeah. Would they have worked for the last king of Scotland? That's right. Are they in the background of the movie The Last King of Scotland?
Starting point is 00:24:08 Are they? No, that's James McAvoy. And he's in the front. Yeah, he's in both parts of that movie. Yeah. So there you go. That's a fun little thing. Wait, what did we clarify there?
Starting point is 00:24:17 That they didn't work for hip- We already knew that, director of, We already knew that, Mr. Coffin. Yeah. Mr. Pierre Coffin. Also, okay, let's do you something by the Happy, Sad, Confuced. Oh, you know what it is because his name's Pierre and I'm like a filet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:32 It's French. You're doing what you do. Thanks, man. Word association. Yeah. It sometimes works. I said, you're doing what you do. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I'm doing what I can. This is why this video is by Josh Horowitz's Happy, Sad, Confused podcast. He's a great interviewer. He's always getting the big stars. He's always like, we're friends, aren't we big star? We're friends, aren't we big star? He is like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:52 But even over Zoom, like, he manages to make it so personable, whereas you look at a lot of interviews. I would say most other interviews who do these kinds of things, and they're just not even close to, like, the way this guy does. There's a BBC radio guy who I think is quite good. Mark a mode. He's good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And Mayo. And there's another guy, and he's always, he's like, he's got glasses and he's always like, we're friends too, aren't we? We're friends. You know how we're friends. Remember the time we met and we were friends? And they're like, I do remember that, thank you. I'm Andrew Garfield and I do remember that.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And I'm not talking about, like, because like novelty or whatever hot ones and all of that chicken shop date, those are all good. Yeah. But those have like a particular setting, like doing that over Zoom and what that's way harder. Yeah. Have you seen the jolly guys? The jolly guys? They're just eating food and they're hanging out with Jason Momoa. You see those guys?
Starting point is 00:25:38 They're very enthusiastic. I like them. Yeah, yeah. What was that? Who's that? It's Jason Statham. Jesse Momoa. Oh, Jason Momoa?
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yeah. I don't think of Interested Stapel. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. Anyway, what are we talking about? I'm looking at the jolly guys. Yeah. You know what I've been fed on YouTube at the moment?
Starting point is 00:25:55 Because I watched an interview with Bamma Garrett. Garrett, yes. It's just like, oh, you want to see every jackass interview for this latest movie. Everything that every, every food eating show, every, every ret-no. No. Like, I watched that one interview because I'm like, what's this guy up to? It seems like he's doing better. That's great.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I'm probably not going to see the new movie because, you know, I'll see it eventually on streaming or whatever. I'm not really interested. But it's like, do you want to, do you want to hear Steveo rank the top 10 things he's stuck in his ass? Not really. Okay. Because you've seen them all. I know what they are.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You can do your own ranking. This ranking is going to upset you because it's going to be wrong. My ranking is different than Steveo's star-stick in ranking. I'm just not that interested, you know what I'm. And again, like, I'm not a non-fan of Jackass. I'll watch it when it comes to streaming. But, yeah. It just, YouTube just thinks I just want Jack.
Starting point is 00:26:47 ass fucking videos. Also because it knows how old I am. Yeah. And I watch that one video. Yeah. I mean, you know, some people say Jackass, the vibe has shift a little bit because they're, well, there's more gross out stuff than being like hammered with something. Yeah, because they're all going to die. Like, I mean, Johnny Knoxville especially. He's like one of those quarterbacks that's been concussed so many times. They're like, you can't do it again because he'll die. So it is more gross out than, yeah, hit you with a big hammer or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Anyway, happy so confused podcast. Oh, yes. Spoke to, uh, this is a big tangent show. I'm not liking this place. I love a big tangent. You don't like a big tangent? I'm not liking it. James, in a way, life is a big tangent, isn't it? Actually, I do like a big tangent.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Uh, spoke to Dan... Tangent Comics. Thank you. There wasn't a gap there. Danny McBride. Tangent comics? No. Danny McBride.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Stan Lee? Stan Lee? Stan Lee? No. No, wait, that's Stanley's Just Imagine. That was a different thing. Tangent comics was... It's not important.
Starting point is 00:27:37 No, tell me. People can Google it. No, no, tell me. Tangent comics was reimagined versions of a bunch of DC characters. But this isn't Stan Lee doing... No, that was Stan Lee's just... Now, there was Stan Lee's Just Imagine. Where it was like, what if Batman had the origin of Spider-Man?
Starting point is 00:27:50 Exactly. What if Batman was a real bat, man? Oh, yeah. Remember those? Stan Lee's just imagined. Really good. The tangent was like, what if The Flash was like a, she was a pop star and she had light powers or whatever? The Flash?
Starting point is 00:28:01 Yes. She? Yes. Whoa. Yeah. What if Nightwing was a team of super spies? What if it wasn't? Nightwing is sometimes a super spy.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Sometimes he's Rick Grayson, yes, and he works a spiral. This is too many tangents, James. This is a good amount of tangents, actually. I've come around. it. Who's this guy interviewing? Daniel McBride is working on the next GI Joe movie. That's right.
Starting point is 00:28:20 He said, it's talking about the influences and what it's going to be about. He said, yes, Josh Horowitz, we are friends. We're good friends. We're good friends.
Starting point is 00:28:26 We're always friends. We're good friends. Yeah. All you have friends are celebrities. We know that. It's definitely the cartoons in the comics. G. Joe Joe was my thing when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I liked that more than Star Wars, more than anything. I love G. I love G. I still have the characters. So it grounds G. It's not a comedy. It's kind of suspense and action.
Starting point is 00:28:42 So it's going to be a lot of fun. It's a whole ensemble. You're following Duke and a group of other Joes. There's a town Springfield that is secretly all Cobra. That is where the film takes place. That sounds great. They nearly went with the Max Landers pitch. Oh, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:28:58 So is this going to be in the Transformers universe or is this separate from it? I would say probably eventually if it does. Doesn't this sound cool, though, like a secret cobra town? Well, I mean, that was in the comics. Yeah, I know Mason. So I'm way ahead of it. But that does sound good. Yeah. I like the idea of like it kind of being a G.I. Joe end up in this town and they don't know that it's a cobra.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Yeah. In the original Marvel G.I. Joe comics, there's kind of a weird multi-level marketing aspect to Cobra. Yeah. Where the Cobra Commander starts out like. Like Tupperware. Yeah, it's like Tupperware. It's a Tupperware, but it's like military hardware or whatever. And then they build this whole fake town. That's awesome. And his name's Fred. Did you know that? The Cobra Commander's name is Fred. His name's Fred. Did he take on that name or did he? No, I think it was always Fred.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Okay, let me check something. G.I. Joe movie 2009 cast. What was Joseph Gordon Levitt's name character? Because he was... Wasn't he the professor or something? The scientist or whatever? Mr. Professor Scientist. Rex Lewis.
Starting point is 00:29:58 No, that's not right. That's wrong. Doesn't say Fred here, Mason. Well, he's wrong. Who? All of them. Joseph Gordon Levitt. He's doing some weird AI.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Don't worry about who he's hanging out with. He's doing some weird AI thing and he's hanging out with Peter Thiel. He's hanging out with Peter Thiel. You wouldn't hang out of him? with Peter Thiel if you could. Probably would once. Because you'd want to kill him. You get to kill him in person.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Can we say this? No. He's got so much money, James. Yeah, I know. It's a parody. Yeah, it is. It's true. I don't think that's a defense in Australia.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I don't think you're... It's not parody. Yeah. Like, in Australia, if you say, I'm going to kill the prime minister in Minecraft. Are you? Yes. But that's not a valid defense.
Starting point is 00:30:35 They're like, we know, like, that's still a threat. AZO will still call you. But you're not going to do that. I might, but in Minecraft. G.I. Joe. Real American hero. Snake eyes.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I bet it'll be a real they-them hero now. Are they them international hero? Boo America, they'll say. Really? Yeah, that's what I think they'll say. Damn. Yeah. I don't know if I agree with any of that.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Yes. Trailers a hoi. Hong, tingling. Yeah. We just got the one we're going to talk about. It's we're wolf. A new Robert Eggers film A guy who said if you ever filmed a telephone
Starting point is 00:31:17 Like a modern cell phone in a movie He'd kill himself Respect All right, drama queen All right Do it Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:26 Run under one of his sets And sneak an iPhone Into the frame And see what he does Do you reckon he'd do a real Gothic tragedy kind of suicide Or just a standard one I think he would pretend he's going to do it
Starting point is 00:31:38 And be You know, you know in a Yeah one of those You know, in an old-timey painting, there's always a guy going, he's got his hand to his forehead, and he's like, oh. And it's sort of black and white, but it's not quite black and white. Yeah, yeah, you'd be doing one of those, oh, you know. I like his movies.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I do, I do also. So this is a retelling of a, a werewolf kind of story. Teen wolf. Teen wolf. It's a retelling of teen wolf. How old is Aaron? Oh, yeah, because he's a teen man, and then Aaron Taylor Johnson grows up to be adult werewolf.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Correct. Of course, it's got a Willem Defoe. Yep. It's got to. Lily Rose Depp. She's got to be in him now. She was in the last Dracula one. And there's probably going to be some physical transformations and et cetera.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Yeah, I mean, that's, I would say, most notable, we don't see what the werewolf's going to be like. Yeah, man. Because there's, you know, the most recent one was Wolfman where he's just a furry man, if you recall. He wasn't even that furry. Yeah, he was just, yeah. And he couldn't hear properly or something. He was more a disheveled man. Disheveled man.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Disheveled man. My dad's disheveled. I think he got bit. Look at, he's disheveled. He's trying to make us disheveled also. I think he got bitten by someone else who's disheveled. No, he's dishevelled. Damn, disheveled dad.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I don't know if I'm down with that. He was bitten by a divorced dad at the bar who was really disheveled. You laugh, but that could happen. Yeah. Anyway, it looks cool. Wentz this out? The end of the year, I think it's out like the send bar. Again, I think it will lean, it will probably lean much closer to.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I mean, you've got the spectrum and you've got. This is our Christmas day. Hell yeah. At one point, you've got the, you've got Van Helsing, werewolf. Brilliant movie. Like enormous CGI flailing.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Brilliant movie. Brilliant movie. Just an onion of a werewolf pilling skin and fur and skin and fur. That's right. And then at the other side
Starting point is 00:33:23 you've got more of a werewolf by night Marvel special presentation where he is more of a furry man. And then you've got Wolfman furry man, disheveled man. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:30 So I think it'll be closer to your, your, um, your werewolf by night, I think. How yeah. More of a furry man. But I think, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:37 I want it monstrous like the way that Count Orlock was like, fuck, this sucks. Because he's never really done, Egus has never really done like a big, huge makeup of, well, I mean, Orlock, but I guess he's, you know, more, more of that, more and more. What did the Vavich look like? A movie I still have not seen. Like a goat. I get a squid kind of thing in the lighthouse. That's true.
Starting point is 00:33:58 There's nothing like that in the Northman though. I really like the Northman. I think it's good. Yeah, man. Yeah. Made no money. Yeah. Not a success and people always like, I don't know, man. But it's also because he's, he's got a small enough filmography that everybody feels the need to rank them, I think. And go, well, this is the worst one. They're all pretty good, I think. I'm off it is. A budget of 70 million made 75.8.
Starting point is 00:34:20 So, yeah, that is a shame. Yep. That is a shame. That is a shame. Oh, yeah, so Nospheratu made for 50, made 182. Pretty good. Pretty good. Good movie.
Starting point is 00:34:31 This is why the World of Real. Apparently, Christina Hodgson, wrote the latest draft of the Batman, The Brave and the Bold movie. Okay. And he's saying, and I keep hearing that Gunner's actually considering replacing Andy Machete as director with a real machete himself. Interesting. With a machete?
Starting point is 00:34:48 Yeah, with a machete. Holding a machete. Wow. Typewriter in one hand, machete and the other hand. That's right. That's why I like to do it. Yes, Gunn is apparently tempted to direct the DCU's Batman movie
Starting point is 00:34:56 after humming the first two Superman films. Might as well take the ship down while you're fully at the wheel, this person says. Okay, then. Yeah, this wouldn't surprise me. This also could be bullshit. But even if it is bullshit, it wouldn't surprise me if this ends up being true. I mean, I think as well, I'm sure, talked about this before, that gun, there's a, there's a, there's been points where he's clearly
Starting point is 00:35:15 like burning the candle from both ends. He's got peacemaker, he's got Creature Commandos, he's directing Superman, and so on. He's interfering with Supergirl potentially. Maybe, someone's got to take the blame. And there's a bunch of rumours last week that Tom Brittany is going to be the Bruce Wayne Batman. And looking at him, I'm like, yeah, it's pretty good. He's 35, he's from the UK, six foot two.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yeah. I don't know him. Yeah. So that's good. I know, I like that. I don't know him. Yeah, that's your mate. Yeah, that's your mate.
Starting point is 00:35:44 He's here. Yeah, I... Of all the choices that I've heard so far, this is probably my favourite of what I've googled of this guy recently. Terrific. I gave him a good Google. That's good. I know you're a bland and scler, man.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I love a bland and sclinner, man. Or a matinee. Yeah. Or any of those, they all look about. They all look about, right? It's interesting like this and also the Bondcasting. Yeah. Like it's sort of, they've sort of dialed it down to like a small number of candidates.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And all of them like, it's all right. Yeah. Callum Turner, he could be Bond. People are like, oh, his hair. His hair looks like Bond's hair. It does actually. Who, I mean, who was the last one with really good hair? Brosnan, I guess.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah, probably. Like Connery wore a toupee the entire time he was Bond. Mason, he doesn't like people knowing that. Just kidding. He was famously bald all the time outside of his movies. He didn't care at all. And he's dead. And he died.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Fuck. Yeah. It's on the news. Yeah. But Callum Turney, I think he looks suitably bonnet. I would like an unknown. I saw somebody go like, oh, it's stealth PR for him because, you know, he got married recently. I mean, probably.
Starting point is 00:36:49 And he's like, he's all swaned around in exotic local cars wearing tuxedos and people like, this is PR. This is a PR move so he looks like Bond in real life. Yeah, maybe it is. I'm like, it's fine. I don't care. It's all PR. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all bullshit.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Whoa. Nothing matters, man. Wow. I don't even care. Wow. Anyway, do you want to hear about some scurrilous rumor? Yes, of course I do. The Supergirl movie?
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yes. So it could lose up to $125 million. Check me on the couch cushions. And that's the good news. Oh, oh. Ruma alert. Take cover, Mason. Rumor alert.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Yeah, so this is by THR. Lock your family in the safe room. It's rumor alert. You have a safe room? I installed one in your house, yeah. You have a family? No, it's just for me. If something goes down, I've got a safe room in your house.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Mason, crawling under my bed. is not a safe room. It feels safe. Well, it's where you sleep. Yes. T.H.R. said, this movie never found its footing post-production. And they were testing it with test audiences.
Starting point is 00:37:52 And it always scored around 60. With test eagles. It always scored about 60 out of 100. 60 out of 100. You pump that number up. That's a C. To a different number. That's a C.
Starting point is 00:38:05 For a different number, James. What are you going about that? That's a D. That's a D, isn't it? Sorry. Yeah. This was despite reshoot. which involved reconfiguring the climactic fight.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And more needle drops, and one point they're like, more needle drops. Well, we can talk about that because music in this movie was a point of friction. Oh, yes. This is also... A fraction too much friction? Maybe it is.
Starting point is 00:38:25 John Farnham? Yes. This is also, of course, between director Craig Gillespie and James Garnan and the... Other taste makers and hit makers. That's right. So the middle cover that they used for the...
Starting point is 00:38:37 There'll be some spoiler-girl super... Yeah. Some Supergirl spoiler, sorry. The middle cover that was used at one point was Cindy Lauper's girls just want to have fun. That would work better, I think. Yeah, it's a bit on the nose, though. Why don't it use one of the songs that they did in the trailer? Yeah, maybe, sure.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Yeah, man, which is apparently a James Gunn decision. Gillespie and Gun bought in their own editors also. Oh, the hatchet man. Yeah. So scores eventually reached the low 70s. But instead of... So it's gone up to set up to the low 70s. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:06 But instead of tinkering, DC Studios created a bake-off for the two versions. One with Craig Gillespie. And then that didn't work, so they had to do a dancing with the stars. Callum Turner would do a dancing with the stars. I bet he would. Or he would have, not now. Yeah, he's dead. So there was a Craig Gillespie version and a James Garn version.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Okay. Or a DC Studios version. Now, it's unclear what major differences emerged. But one source said, Gillespie's version was 11 minutes longer and featured more of the villain, Crem. The villain, we don't like. We don't like. Yeah, I don't know whether that would have fixed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:40 When the two competitors. Versions tested. Instead of him being just, I'm doing this because I'm evil, he's like, I'm doing this because I'm sad. I'm evil because I'm sad. That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Summated with my backstory. When the two competing versions tested, the score surprisingly dropped significantly. Oh, no. The studio insider says, These guys don't know what they're doing. The studio insider says the differences were not particularly pronounced.
Starting point is 00:40:04 It was then never tested again, which makes me think that the studio just went, let's not put any more money into this. Yeah, let's not put this out. Yeah. So they're saying then... Let's put our random versions to different cinemas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I see what people think. We don't like it that much. I think it's the general consensus. Yeah. The challenge for Garn and thus D.C. studios is to navigate the fine line of being a filmmaker, being filmmaker friendly. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Which is also what he's talked about, how we wanted people to create their own stories, while trusting his strong artistic point of view that has guided them all this career. Needle drops. That's right. Gunn and Saffran's tenure is up after Clayface, lanterns and then Man of Tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:40:39 But of course, there's still DC crime, which is in the works, which is a Jimmy Olson series, and recently announced Mr. Terrific series. Mr. Terrific. Yeah. DC Studios,
Starting point is 00:40:47 however, has other challenges looming larger than Supergoyal's failure or the villainy of Brainiac. Who's writing this article? They're killing it with these references. Right? Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:40:57 They know what's up? They do. Yeah. Probably talking about tangent comics in the next paragraph. They don't mention that thing that only you know about. That's a shame.
Starting point is 00:41:06 It's a crime. It's a damn shame. I didn't write this article confirmed. There were anxieties over David Allison's Paramount upcoming acquisition of Warner Bros. We've talked about this to death, but if you don't know, Paramount is buying Warner Brothers. There's billions of dollars that Paramount's dad is invested. How much are we getting zero? Zero dollars.
Starting point is 00:41:27 We should get some from Paramount's dad. I think we should. I think we'd be happy to. And that's the biggest challenge ahead for Gunn and Safran may be guiding a superhero studio right. A superhero movies are no longer a bulletproof genre for moviegoers. Bulletproof. Which is certainly true. Bulletproof monk.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Here's one studio head that was quoted. Gen Z does not care about superhero movies. That genre belongs to the millennials. Ouch. As a hufflepuff, that hurts my feelings. Oh, no. No, I give a fuck. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yeah, very interesting. Discuss? Question mark. Should we? Disgust? Should we? Discussed also? Question mark? For sure.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yeah, there's a lot of disgust. I think this DCU was far from over. Yeah. It could be. Because I think if you look at the output, outside of Supergirl. It's pretty solid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And there's also more column inches and more sound bites in saying this thing's over and it's a disaster. Yeah. Whereas like, again, when we talk about the MCU, Iron Man, good movie, Incredible Hulk.
Starting point is 00:42:23 People are like, this is over. Yeah. Then it got legs. Then it got Iron Man too. And it wasn't as good, but it made a lot of money. That's right.
Starting point is 00:42:30 So yeah. But I do think they are facing a world where people do not care about superhero movies as much. That's true. And also people can't tell the difference between Superman and Ironman and what universes everybody's in or whatever. They're better at it now, though, I think.
Starting point is 00:42:43 I think they are, but also, I don't think people really care. Like, they just, people, I think people just want it to be good. People want good movies. They don't care if it's connected to the previous one necessarily, as long as it's a good fun time after do movies. Nobody wants homework, man. Homework man. Does he help you with your homework or does you bring you homework?
Starting point is 00:43:02 I think he brings you homework. He's not, he's not figured it out. Does he come and get it back and bark it and then let you know what he did? He said he said he would come back later. And so you're like, God, if he'd just given me a deadline, that'd be less stressful. But the fact that he's not said that, do I do it now? Do I wait for the weekend? I just wouldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Yeah, I wouldn't do it either. Is he going to do? Kill me, maybe. Yeah. He doesn't have any power over me. You might, though. You might though, yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I've talked about this. Fuck homework. I've talked about it. I've been bullshit. It's busy work. Again, it gets people ready for the workforce so they go home and their boss can call them and be like, oh, can you have? Is he in trouble?
Starting point is 00:43:36 Is he in trouble? Yeah. He's calling from the phone an obsession. He's in hell. Hey, man, what's up? Hey, I'm, uh-huh. I needed to come in earlier. Shouldn't have picked up.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah. Should have said I was in bed. Yeah. But it was 638. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Anyway, as far as the DCU goes, it's going to take some time. Little girl in the middle. After all, everything's going to be all right. Everything's going to be all right. But it might not be all right. It might be all right. It might be alright. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:10 We'll see how we go. But don't forget James Gunn Haynay, you're an all-star. Yeah. Et cetera. I don't think Anna Naguera is going to get any more writing gigs for a while. Interesting. Even though I don't think this is her fault, I think if anything, it would fall to the director. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I guess then. Because it also seems that like... Can we start blaming Millie Alcock? Yes. Definitely. Yeah, that's blame her. She's become the new Brie Larson because she was like, I don't know, maybe Supergirls bisexual. And people are like, you should fucking kill yourself.
Starting point is 00:44:35 This is why I'm not seeing this, but you weren't going to say. You weren't going to see it before? Also, nobody's seeing it. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's the thing as well, because what it is... It's so fucking spiteful.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah. Honestly, it's... And it's so sad and disgusting. And it's the idea is what they do in they're like, well, she should have been better media trade to blah, blah, blah. Well, what is happening is you get put on this multi-week promotional tour and everybody's exhausted and everybody's doing novelty, eating chicken wings and whatever and all this sort of stuff and playing games.
Starting point is 00:45:05 And then they just approach them sleep deprived. I mean, obviously, it must be nice to be a bloody rich. Easy. But they approach them when they are vulnerable and ask them a question that doesn't have, that has an answer that can be construed in a bunch of different ways for, for, you know, sound bites that are controversial. And then everybody who has a financial stake in getting people upset is just like, well, she said this and this is the reason why you shouldn't see the movie.
Starting point is 00:45:32 You should be bad about it or whatever. Yeah. It's like, yeah, but I don't know. It's because of the death of just sitting down on one of those boring 1970s talk shows where somebody just shows up and talks for an hour of it. Orson Wells is there. Oh, exactly, yeah. He was Galvatron.
Starting point is 00:45:48 No, he wasn't. He was Unicron. I say more Josh Horowitz. I agree. And the guy from BBC one. Yeah, where that is. But I don't know his name. I'll look it up.
Starting point is 00:45:57 And you'll be like, I know that guy. Yeah, I know him. I've seen him before. I'll say. Anyway, you know, movies fail. Yeah. But there'll be more movies. Not my movies.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Nah, your movies would all be good. Should we move on to a segment of the show? Let me, hang on you. Oh my God, Mason. I'm just looking up Tangerine comics or whatever. I'm guling Tangerine comics. Tangerine comics. I'll give a BBC radio interview guy, but it's come up with that guy who accidentally did a BBC interview.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Remember that guy? No. They got it, they just, they got a, he was mistakenly interviewed in live television in place of another guy called guy. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah. Guy Gomer? Um, yes. Who was he supposed to be?
Starting point is 00:46:33 I don't know, I can't remember. That's great. Yeah. Oh, Ali Plum. Ali Plum, there it is. Yeah. And you ate a name. I'm sure he's relieved to hear that, that he has a real name.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Does he say I'm going to plumber the depths of this celebrity's psyche? I don't think he said that. What's his favorite podcast? Ours? We don't actually know. Okay. We don't know any plumbing-related podcasts. Oh, I see, right.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I see where you're going with that. If you're listening, Ali Plumb, your catchphrase should be, I'm going to plumb the depths of this celebrity's psyche. Whether they like it or not. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Topic.
Starting point is 00:47:06 So adaptations of comic book Mason. Never heard of them. Often there. Good? It's often there. Bad. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:47:13 We talked about Supergirl last week. Did we? Yes. For me, it felt like a watered-down version of the comic it was based on. They changed the ending for the worst. They took out the horse. All things that I think the movie are. Which are the movie's detriment.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Yes. I would have put all of that stuff in. We're probably going to spoil some stuff here. We're probably going to spoil Supergirl if you haven't. If you haven't seen Supergirl yet, and we know you haven't. Yeah. You just haven't. Something that I forgot to mention last week.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I was going to bring it up, and I made a big point about going to bring it up, but then I forgot. Yeah. In the original comic book version, Cream, the villain, Cream of the Yellow Snow, he isn't a spacefaring guy. No. And so he steals Supergirl's spaceship and goes into space. But in the movie, he's already in a band of Briggins with a spaceship. So in order to have him steal Supergirl's spaceship and have her without a spaceship to use, what they do is they have it.
Starting point is 00:48:07 So when Cream goes and invades Ruthie's house and kills her brother, her dad goes under the table, a kitchen table, and he pushes a button and it fires a landmine out of the lawn and blows the ship up? Could have done that when it landed? What a stupid home defense system? Why would that be a thing? Also, you should have done it when it landed. Yeah, of course you should have.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Yeah. Just give it a whirl then. Maybe he couldn't. Maybe he couldn't. But like, you know, you know how people in the US, they're like they're like prepped for home invasion so there's like a gun at the door and a gun under their bed or whatever like
Starting point is 00:48:39 they don't have a button under their kitchen table that blows up a bunch of bombs in their front yard not yet it's a good idea though it is a great idea yeah cream what was he thinking also nothing evidently yeah so anyway I don't want to pop on about Supergirl because we already did that last week
Starting point is 00:48:56 don't want to beat a dead Superhorse which wasn't in the movie by the way wasn't even in the movie I didn't even say it here's one yeah how do you feel about in Tim Burton, we're going all the way back. Tim Burton's Batman, 1989, instead of the killer of Bruce Wayne's parents being a man named Joe Chill
Starting point is 00:49:13 or just a random guy, it's specifically Jack Napier who then grows up to become the Joker. How do you feel about that? Because Batman throws him into the acid. Throws him into the acid. I think it only works in that version. And I like the idea. I'm sure we've talked about it before.
Starting point is 00:49:29 But I think it's a worse origin story. I like the idea of nobody, and also rec on this, of he never finds out who it is. And he never gets justice, which is why he's doing what he's doing. I like the idea of the original, the version where it's a man named Joe Chill, which I think is in the Nolan version, or it's a, somebody goes to prison for it. Yeah. But the idea of like, and then event, you know, over the various, you know, the many years we've seen the repercussions on him and we've seen the repercussions. I think he has a daughter and there's a story about that and that kind of thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I think, I guess you could just, you could be like, well, this guy killed the Wayne's parents and that got him a lot of notoriety in the underworld. And that's why he becomes Jack Palance's number one. Isn't that what happened in the movie Joker? Sort of. Oh, my God. Well, that was just a guy in a joke. But I also, I don't like, I prefer to be a random guy or Joe Chil. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:20 But I do like the idea that some people have floated that Batman just thinks whoever he's facing at that given moment is the guy that killed his parents. Because he's gone insane. Yeah. Like he's been insane for long time. Do you think he literally thinks that or he's using that as a motivation or you don't care? I think in any given moment he thinks that the person's face. Some random guy on the rooftop or whatever or the penguin or whatever. That's kind of like Memento.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Yes. Slight spoilers for the movie Memento, I guess. Batmanto. Batminto. Yes. Yeah, the user username said, I personally prefer having Joker kill Batman's parents as it makes their connection stronger and more personal. I.A.
Starting point is 00:51:00 But then doesn't that result in every subsequent movie? He doesn't have a strong personal connection to the villain. Yeah, because he'd already killed the Joker. He killed the Joker. Tied him to a helicopter or whatever he did, yeah. And I think, again, not to critique a movie that I loved as a child and still holds up on a number of levels, but like, it would make more sense than to not kill the Joker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Because then he would have an ongoing villain, but of course, back in the day they had to kill a him. He was going to come back in a fear gas thing. He was going to come back in a fear gas thing. In a very expensive fear gas incident, yeah. We've talked about this, Mason, a few people bring it up here. Vincent in particular says one of the worst changes is no giant... Vincent Chase? Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Okay. He's no giant alien squid in Watchman. And one of the best is no giant alien squid in Watchmen. Talked to those four in the movie The Watchman. At the end... It's just called Watchman. Instead of doing a giant squid that Adrian Vite teleports into the center of Manhattan under the ruse of that it's actually an interdimensional beast that's come to kill the people in Earth.
Starting point is 00:51:57 A scout device from an... invading alien force. But it's already dead. It'll unite the world against this upcoming alien threat. They say it was one of the blue man groups, Dr. Manhattan. That's exactly right. Yeah. And which I think I understand why they took it out.
Starting point is 00:52:13 I understand because it's a, it's another level of ridiculousness. Ridiclessness to that, to what's a fairly grounded-ish story. Where there's only one super human character and it is Dr. Manhattan. Yeah. And so I, I don't. I wouldn't say that. I prefer it, but I understand why they did it, because then you'd have to be, why do they put a squid in the, what's it? And I think a lot of people who are you like, why is it specifically a squid?
Starting point is 00:52:40 Yeah. I think people would leave the cinema being like, is that relevant? Like if it was just like a generic, like a big, you know, like a generic monster kind of creature, like a Godzilla kind of thing. I think people are like, oh, it's a ruse because it's a big monster. But I think because it's a squid, people would be like, why a squid though? Yeah. You know? And I guess the idea is that you were.
Starting point is 00:53:00 want to make it something kind of extraterrestrial and, you know, and you couldn't tie to any one particular thing. But you'd be like a squid, is it from the sea? And we're being invaded by the sea? Is this the seaman? Is it the seaman? Well, is it seaman from the video game, Seaman? It might be. Speaking of, Penelope says, oh, first of all, I want to be speaking off. This, this better tie. This is about watchman. Okay. I may be the only wife who loves a podcast and my husband doesn't listen. He does, however, get me a Patreon membership for my birthday, so he doesn't hate the pod. Nice. But she said, my husband is a big comic book guy and he will take his Hater money.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Yes, in his comments are the HBO Regina King Watchman series for taking a classic comic book that has already been adapted a few times and turning into something new and meaningful without destroying the source material. And although the show was far from perfect, we both loved Tadiana Mislani's portrayal of Sheiholk and the show for Breaking the Fourth Wall in a really fun way. Agreed. And also my husband totally agreed with a poster who said how disappointing the spirit was. So yeah, somebody has mentioned the spirit.
Starting point is 00:53:54 A movie we haven't seen all the way through. I've seen some of the spirit. Same. I think we've all, we did that together. And we gave up. Yeah. Interesting in the Watchman TV show, they bring back the squid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Because that's a sequel to the comic and not the movie. That's correct, yes. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I also think that show is really good. There have been some interesting updates of the Watchman universe. We've talked about... There's a Rorschach comic.
Starting point is 00:54:17 There is a Top King, Washington. After or before Watchman or whatever. Doomsday Clock, which is half a good Watchman sequel, and then it just turns to crap. What if Superman fought Dr. Manhattan? Big. Big. It would be big, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:54:32 It would be big, wouldn't it? It would be big, all right. Yeah. Hell yeah. But why not use Dr. Manhattan as a, you know, single use universe reset. Easy. Device. And you blame it all on him.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yeah. He did the new 52 or whatever. Yeah. Just quickly get back to the Watchman movie. Yeah. God, you're obsessed. I think it's a good... They should remake the movie Obsession, but you're obsessed with the movie Watchman.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Maybe I could remake it and make $300 million. I think you could. Obsession, of course. not watchman. I think, first of all, for an unadaptable fucking thing
Starting point is 00:55:03 they could never get any sequels or adaptation, it's just, it is now. But I think they made good in the universe reason. Like by changing it to Dr. Manhattan,
Starting point is 00:55:12 I think it works. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Good. I think good also. Jake has said changing the secret invasion
Starting point is 00:55:20 story from every Marvel character to just Nick Fury, Rodey and a few other randos was definitely a choice. It's awful. It never should have been done. No. I'm sure I,
Starting point is 00:55:28 when, when it was announced, I'm like, oh, secret invasion, that's cool. That could be cool. You could put some characters in it. You can't afford them, no. You can put Martin Freeman and Maria Hill. I don't even think Martin Freeman was in it. Is he not at the start where he's a fake Skrull?
Starting point is 00:55:41 I think you're thinking of Black Panther, too. I think at the start, they kill a fake Martin Freeman. Oh, no, you're right, they do. They do. I might be wrong. No, you're correct. I remember that now. It's in an alley.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Okay, that's good stuff. But again, like, the thing about it is that it was, in retrospect, they couldn't have done it. Because the fun of that is to be like, here's every superhero, which ones are scrolls. That was the plot of the original's secret invasion is that they, the scrolls, the shapeshifting villains gained the ability to perfectly replicate various heroes abduct them. And some had done it for years? Yeah, and some of, some...
Starting point is 00:56:18 Which they did with just Rody. Yeah, some had... So the thing about scrolls is they can transform into other people, but they can't replicate their powers. but then they developed a method where if they abducted the hero, they could sort of tap into their powers and copy it. They could use their mind. They could use their mind.
Starting point is 00:56:34 This isn't the comic or the show? This isn't the comic. Because they do a similar thing. Yeah, so then it became, you know, finally they gained the ability to have perfect infiltration. And then some of them, like you said, had been embedded in the universe for years. Some had had their memories raced so they were like sleeper agents. They didn't even know that they were scrolls. They thought they were the real guy and then they sort of got activated.
Starting point is 00:56:55 But the problem there was. is, of course, you can't bring in every starring character from the Marvel movies and reveal that Samar Skrulls because you cannot afford to do that. Absolutely. Especially for a show that people probably weren't going to watch and evidently they didn't watch. It would have to be an espionage kind of movie
Starting point is 00:57:11 with, you know, $300 million put into it. Yeah. You'd basically have to do the Civil War version of that, which they did not do. Well, Civil War, there's an example of something, Mason. Oh, yes. I believe. I mean, I think, I mean, Civil War, the movie,
Starting point is 00:57:24 isn't so much Civil War as just 12 people. fight in an airport. Correct. Yes. Like the Civil War comic is this whole story arc about the registration of superheroes and whatever in the implications of that. And Captain American, his team going to hiding for like a really long time. And at the end, he just goes, I don't want to fight anymore.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Well, too bad your shot. You're dead. You're dead, idiot, for a while. You're going to be dead for a while. You're going to be dead for a while. You're dead for a bit. Yeah. So I think, and that was also like when the MCU was still obviously, and didn't even
Starting point is 00:57:50 hit its peak yet. Yes. But it did, like, I would have liked to have seen at least the Netflix characters be involved in that show in that movie. And I also understand why they didn't now because now we know that there were separate entities. I mean, I think what we're going to see here a lot
Starting point is 00:58:06 emerging is the idea that the reason you can, that a lot of this stuff works in comic books and doesn't work in live action is because you have to pay all the characters. Yeah. But not in the comics. In the comics, they're free to use. You can just wait till they die and then use their likeness. That's true, isn't it? Or kill them and use their likeness. It's true, isn't it? Yep.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I think they tried to do that with Jeremy Renner. They tried to run him over the snowplowed. They did. To use his likeness? Is that true? So they could use him cheaper in the Hawkeye TV series. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying is true. That's what I'm saying. Because I'm not saying that. How could they fix secret invasion? They could have, I mean, you don't, you don't call it secret invasion. You don't call it Nick Fury's big secret agent adventure. Nick Fury knows. His S.A. Nick Fury knows something's up. Nick Fury knows something's up. You could call it. And then all the post series like, hmm, and there's a question mark over his head, hmm.
Starting point is 00:58:54 It also takes all the mystery about why he is who he is. Because he just has a bunch of scrolls everywhere. Yeah. Oh, that's his network, is it? Interesting. Remember when he goes and gets his eye patch back or whatever? He's special eye patch. Crap.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Wow. His spy patch. Oh, then at the end, too. Spy patch. Yes, two scrolls use all their different arms. Different arms. Yeah. Chuck each other.
Starting point is 00:59:16 It could have been called Nick Fury knows something up, and he's pretty sure it's about different arms. An arms deal. It's about an arms deal. So from that you really... Boy, I haven't seen an arms deal like this since around Contra, he could say. Wow, very good.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Yeah. He also didn't know anything. You realised about that character that he didn't know anything. It was just all his network of spies. Yeah. Scott Hansom says, look, I don't love the entirety of the show,
Starting point is 00:59:40 but I've seen a lot of people argue that the boys is miles above the source material and from what I've read and seen of seasons wonderful, I'd have to agree. Yeah. You are correct. Yeah, I mean, I didn't exactly stick the landing. I would say generally speaking,
Starting point is 00:59:51 I am a fan of everything Garth Ennis has written, but I would say the boys is my least favorite because it is the meanest and the grossest and the most unpleasant. But I mean, there are some high points to it. What? Name one.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Punching. Was Martin Freeman in it? Martin Freeman's not in it to the best of my knowledge, but he might be because a guy who looks an awful lot like Simon Peg is in it. Oh yeah. So maybe there's a Martin Freeman analog in there somewhere. Yeah. You know, getting horrible things done to him.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yeah. I think especially earlier on, It was also came up an era where, because the MCU was the biggest thing. It started in 2019 or whenever it did. And the MCU was, again, like, cresting, if you will. So it was like subverting the idea. Before it was crestfallen. Thank you. It was subverting the idea behind all these superpowered characters.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Where now we've had just like eight years or whatever. Yeah. Of, like, just a lot of that, even within the MCU. Yeah. So it's not very interesting when they're like, oh, this guy's just like Donald Trump. That's crazy. Yeah, exactly. The thing about the boys, unfortunately, is that it has.
Starting point is 01:00:55 gone from, oh, this is much better than the source material to general public, including us, turning on it and being like, boy, this did not end well. Yeah. And so I think it's, I think in the long run, it's going to be compared roughly to the same level as the comic book. Like, it's got some high points, but also, some of it is quite bad. And yeah, like, like at the end, you know, they were just like, what if Homeland was more like Trump every day?
Starting point is 01:01:20 Wouldn't that be crazy? Could you believe that Homeland had said something if Trump also said a similar thing? I can, actually. Yeah. I can believe that, yeah. Yeah. Again, if they'd ended it to season three, I think people will be like, Homeland is one of the greatest superhero villains, one of the greatest villains, one of the greatest villains on TV or film or whatever. But the fact that it, you know, if I open the Reddit app, there's often like random, you know, random posts from all over the place.
Starting point is 01:01:43 And every time I see one from R slash the boys, it's like, why didn't Homeland had just do this? Like it's just, the discourse might. Did it get stupid up? Yeah, probably. The discourse has largely died like it did with Game of Thrones. like when the thing ended people were just like we're not talking about this anymore but every the boys post I see is somebody just being like
Starting point is 01:02:01 how did they why did he get so stupid and bad why did he why can't he why didn't he this sucks I also think with that you can make the argument that he did become more isolated and paranoid and he was never an intelligent man to begin with and everybody who was around him would just like just agree with whatever he thought I would say that but also I think if you were just going to just go back
Starting point is 01:02:21 I was still didn't see you say that now but I reckon if you went back to like episode one season one of the boys. Oh yeah, he'd be like, oh, he's, yeah. Yeah. No, no, I agree with you on that also. But again, I think it's a, I think it's a lazy crutch to be like, yeah, that person went inside.
Starting point is 01:02:34 The reason everything fell apart went insane or like, you know, the same thing with the character of Sage. Well, why does this, why, what does a plans keep falling apart? Well, that's actually part of a plan all along. It's actually part of a plan all right. That's what Kahn would do also from Star Trek probably. Khan would do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:50 And Thrawn. Thrawn. God, what if Khan and Thrawn met someone? What if Khan and Thrawn? And they did a team up or they had to fight each other or whatever. Yep. Yep. You're on board?
Starting point is 01:03:01 No. No. You said yep. It's not a comic book adaptation. So I'm not on board. Oh, man. Do you have one then? Ethan has pointed out the movie Wanted, which is not the worst of generic action movies that exist.
Starting point is 01:03:17 It is not the worst one. But it is far and away. People are not familiar with it. It's not even close. It is far and away the least accurate adaptation. of any comic book ever, I think. If there's a more inaccurate adaptation of a comic book I've yet to you. I guess the only ones would be when, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:32 sometimes you just watch a movie and somebody goes, oh, that's based on a comic book. And you're like, I've never even heard of that. Yeah, I don't. But so if you haven't seen, so the movie, the movie wanted is about a pathetic worm of a man played by James McAvoy who... Mason, are you sure you weren't looking at a mirror.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Go on. I might have been looking a mirror. I am always looking a mirror. But it is, and he, and his life sucks, and he works at a job that he sucks. and nobody respects him. But then it turns out his father was part of a league of assassins.
Starting point is 01:04:00 They have such incredible skill that they can like fire a gun and have the bullet curved in mid-air. How do you do that though? Because magic is real or that particular thing is real. Matrix Focus or whatever. Oh yeah. But there's not like a magic loom that tells you
Starting point is 01:04:15 to shoot or anything. There is a magic loom. Wait a minute. I haven't even seen this movie. The magic loom is also new. There's a magic loo. The League of Assassins that, They kill people based on a magic loom that looms out bits of quilt or whatever
Starting point is 01:04:31 that tells people who to kill to sustain order in the world or whatever. But it turns out Morgan Freeman, he was actually, he hacked the loom. He did a loom hack. He did a loom hack. How did they get to magic loom? I don't know. Is there something like that in the comic that I can't remember? No, there's not all.
Starting point is 01:04:48 That's brand new. So people probably not remember, but the comic is based on it is also called Wanted. It's written by Mark Miller. It's got some good ideas in it. But the premise is that it's about a disgusting, filthy worm of a man that nobody respects and he's got a job. You sure I wasn't looking at a mirror? We were both looking at a mirror. We were both looking in a mirror that, to be clear, it was not a fun house mirror.
Starting point is 01:05:07 It was a regular mirror. We just saw ourselves. Oh, man. He's a filthy worm, but he looks like Eminem. Yes. Because it's one of those ones where the artist was a notorious tracer. Yep. And also they're probably like, we could probably get Eminem's of this.
Starting point is 01:05:19 So, but then he learns that it's a world of, it used to be. The world used to be a world of superheroes. It was cool and good and there was Spider-Man or whatever. Exactly, like capes and costumes and superpowers and all this sort of stuff. They've come into, they've filtered into like public consciousness. Yeah, so the, so the, yeah, and so, but his father was a super villain specifically with the power. He was a super assassin so he could curve bullets in midair. That was his power, but there are people who can, you know, fly and shoot lasers and all the standard superhero kind of power.
Starting point is 01:05:52 and the idea was that some years ago, all the supervillains teamed up, and they defeated all the heroes, and then they combined their powers and they altered reality, so nobody remembers that it was ever a world like that. And that's why the world sucks and is dull and boring, because they changed it.
Starting point is 01:06:06 It's also the story of Old Man Logan, which Mark Millar also goes. Oh, it is too, isn't it? Yeah. And so, but they have the secret society of supervillains have recruited him because they're like, well, you probably have the same powers, and we need the...
Starting point is 01:06:18 We need Hallie Berry to teach you. We need Hallie Berry is also there, and we need you to redress the balance, because all our evil alliances are ending or whatever. And so what they did when they adapted it is clearly they went, well, this is too much and it'll be really expensive. And we have to invent,
Starting point is 01:06:31 we have to build hundreds of supervillain costumes and do a bunch of visual effects or whatever. So they're just like, well, just do the bullet curving thing. We can do it for everybody. Everybody can have bullet curving powers. It's fine. Does he need a costume? And we'll add a loom.
Starting point is 01:06:44 No, there's no. Well, he has a costume in the video game. Yeah. Which is an adaptation. Both, sort of. Yeah. But again, I don't think it's a, very good movie.
Starting point is 01:06:53 No, it's not really. And again, it's, again, I run hot and cold on Mark Miller, and again,
Starting point is 01:06:57 a lot of his stuff from that ear is very mean, and that character is awful. Like, it's one of the worst characters. Yeah, he's doing all sorts of sexual assaults on celebrities and bragging about it.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Exactly. And, but, but there is a, there is a, it's interesting. And it came back as well. The universe was sort of,
Starting point is 01:07:14 oh yeah, he's restarted recently. And it was all merged with kick ass and whatever. All his, all of Mark Miller's property's got merged together. Yep. And bought by Netflix and then killed. Yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 01:07:25 But anyway, please email in if you can think of a less accurate adaptation. I mean, I think if you look at early, like, serialized adaptations of, like, Captain America and Batman and Superman or whatever, they just do whatever. Yeah, it's like, is there a Captain America or he doesn't have a shield? Yeah, he doesn't have a shield as a gun. We've talked about it years ago. Also, like, we recently, more recently talked about the original Superman serial. And there's no comic book supervillains in it. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Yeah, yeah. There's like a dude who has a metal sperm. helmet. I was speaking about Superman, how do you feel about the fact that Superman's parents and the new Superman movie are jerks? I mean, it's fine, I guess.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Because that's the sort of, that's the sort of tertiary piece of information about the Superman mythos that is always changing. Yeah, true. When people go, oh, didn't they send, you know, Calell to Earth to be a savior, blah, blah, blah, they invented that pretty much for the Richard Donner movies
Starting point is 01:08:20 because they wanted to add. They were just like, I will chuck him somewhere. Yeah, and... We're somewhere where people went pointing him. And I think they were like, they want... I reckon they were probably like Marlon Brando kind of wants to be like a... Like a savior figure kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:08:32 So let's add that and he'll like that kind of thing. But like prior to that, they just send, you know, the L's just sent him to Earth because it was convenient. Yeah. And sometimes he's a savior in the comic book. Sometimes he's not. And, you know, this is just... Sometimes the house of L are a bunch of jerks.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Yeah. Sometimes Jor L is showing up on Earth and he's like, I'm back in because of time or whatever. and I'm, now I'm evil. He does that in small villain all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess I would like to see it like fleshed out more. It's weird that David Krumholtz in Supergirl is like...
Starting point is 01:09:00 Nummy-crummy. Yeah, it's weird that my brother wants Superbent to take over the earth, but don't you do that. Yeah. You should go there, though. Yeah, because sometimes he's the villain. Yeah. Sometimes he's the villain, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:11 So, yeah. I think, yeah, I don't know. What I do like about it, and I think you could do this without making his parents like, get a harm of women. You could... Yeah, that's probably the weird. That's probably the phrasing. Where you, where Superman makes the decision to do that, like, regardless.
Starting point is 01:09:28 And his parents on earth are the ones who instilled that value in him. Yeah. So he's doing it because he chooses to, not because he feels obligated to do it. Yeah. I think, I like that aspect of it. The harm bit is weird. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Jesse says, and I like this one I want. Jesse from Toy Story. Yes. Jesse Lopez says the best, from Toy Story. The best changes I can think of come from Batman, the animated series. The change of Mr. Freeze's Batman. backstory about the creation of Harley Quinn, the additional of the grapple gun to Batman's gadgets. I think that's from Batman 89.
Starting point is 01:09:56 But yeah, totally. Like Batman the animated series is like the gold standard. Yeah. Of adapting something and then adding stuff. Absolutely. Which became just known Batman stuff that everybody accepts. And again, you know, the original Mr. Freeze or Mr. Zero as he was back in the older nose, which is like a completely generic guy.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Yeah. And that's the reason he's in the 1960s Batman series. because they were like, we just need a, like, we need a series of villains who are just harmless and kind of silly. What if we had a cold guy's cold? What if we had a cold guy and a King Tutankarman guy and a whatever guy? Is he cold too? No, he's Egyptian. I mean, he doesn't have a shirt on.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Does he have a big sand hourglass or something? Yeah, probably. Yeah, probably. Him or another guy. Let's put that in the background. Who cares? Who? Yeah, so to bring to, and you know, and I think host that series, a bunch of those characters are not being used.
Starting point is 01:10:45 And so to take, add a bit of gravitas and a bit of depth to him. I mean, the design alone as well. It's interesting that in Batman and Robin, they're like, let's take this character and make him much worse. 100% yeah. Weird. Yeah. Just even design-wise.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I mean, there's been comic book adaptations of that design that I think are better. Like he's in, like, the Mexico. Oh, from like the, oh, you mean, since? Since then, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. But I like a kind of somewhere in the middle where he's got that kind of 1950s fishbowl helmet vibe, but he is also like super,
Starting point is 01:11:19 super strong and dangerous. Plank. Yeah. If people have ever read Gotham Central, which is a series set around the Gotham Police Department dealing with, there's a Mr. Free storyline in that. It's pretty good. He beats up bunch of people, cops and whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Yeah, he freezes them. Oh, no, they die. Yeah. So you have read it. Yeah. You've read that quote from Jim Gordon. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:11:42 They die. I know, they die. And again, like the absolute staying power of Harley Quinn to take that character, Yes. Who was just, if I remember, we'll probably talk about this, but she exists because they wrote a scene where the Joker was going to jump out of a cake to surprise some people and then do a crime on them or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:59 And they're like, it's not very dignified for the Joker to jump out of a cake. We'll have an underling jump out of the cake. That's dignified. Exactly. So they've created Harley Quinn. They even hinted like the Harley Quinn, poison ivy relationship in that show and whatever,
Starting point is 01:12:12 which it was more, it wasn't explicit. And they probably didn't even mean anything really by. We've talked about it probably. but they're best friends that's become a whole thing that they're best friends yeah man
Starting point is 01:12:21 wow yeah man they're best friends and roommates Garrett says worse than us not being motivated by being a psycho in love and
Starting point is 01:12:30 in love with death some of the movies because he's just about resource management in the movies I don't hate that yeah okay right honest
Starting point is 01:12:36 yeah look I think I would rather be him in love with death because there's a moment again again at the end of the Avengers who goes to cheat death something something
Starting point is 01:12:46 to court death Yeah, to fight these guys would to court death and he's like, hmm, sounds sexy. Sounds something I would do. Yum, yum, yum for me. Deadpool doesn't steal my girl. But again, I guess then you have to cast death. Yeah, and they did.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Aubrey Plaza played her. Oh, yeah. You could just do it. You could just do it now, I guess. Doesn't Deadpool data in the comics as well? Probably. Probably. But also the thing, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:10 I'm sure people have pointed out, but when, if Thanos would have just, you know, destroy half of the population of the universe, they'd just come back pretty soon. Yeah. You're wasted. What are you going to be snapping all day? You can't.
Starting point is 01:13:22 It'd wreck you. Rick your brain in your mind. Exactly. In your spirit. Yeah. I go it also says... Just add resources to the universe, Thanos, you idiot.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Just double it. You're stupid idiot. He's not about resource management. We've talked about it. You know what they should have done? They just should have added a line where somebody goes, why doesn't he just double the resources?
Starting point is 01:13:38 And they could be like, well, it doesn't work like that. He can only do the snappy snap. It goes one way. If you can subtract you cannot add. Yeah, yeah. Also, again, the idea that It's just numerous action sequences in those movies
Starting point is 01:13:50 trying to stop a big purple man from snapping his fingers. I don't think he really needs to snap the fingers. I think he just think about it. I think he has the snappies fingers. It's like lighting a match mason. But for turning people into dust. Garrett said the best is turning peacemaker into a character people like.
Starting point is 01:14:05 That is true. Again, the idea, you know, there are always fans of some B-list character. And again, I liked the vigilante, the original, well, the second vigilantee, Adrian Chase in the comic books. I had a collection. I might even still have a couple.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I like that character, but nobody cares about that character. They tried to reboot him like six times. It never worked and it never stuck. And he died in like 1989. And they never brought him back. Oh. So, well, they brought him back in purgatory.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Oh. Yeah. But it's fine. Don't worry about it. You're okay with it? I'm sure there are some people that really mad about it. But I'm also sure that some people were like, oh, the vigilante, these are cool character on the show.
Starting point is 01:14:45 I'll read his comic book. Oh, these are dark. Yeah. These are dark. He's not fun. He's not fun. Or whoever played him briefly before Freddie Stormair. Yeah, Eddie Stormer.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Eddie Stormare. God. What else have you got, Mason? What are your thoughts that you have or? Ashbyle says, The Mask. Okay. Which, of course, was a very family. The Mask is due for a gritty reboot.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Yeah. It's not going to work, though. That's a, yeah, retelling of the comic, but nobody sees it. Nobody sees it. It's going to be bad. Maybe it won't be bad, but who were like, this isn't what I signed up for. We didn't sign up for anything. They would only green.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Light the mask again. Green light the mask. If Jim Carrey came back. Yes. Yeah. Well, that's true actually. Because... And they were just doing the version of that.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Because the, you know, the original is... It's not... It's kid friendly. There's some... I guess there's some risque stuff and, you know, some people get... Yeah, with a big hammer. Shot to death and... Get something stuck up their ass.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Yeah, they get a muffler inserted in themselves and whatever. But it's mostly kid friendly and fun. And it was, you know, it was kid friendly enough that there was an animated series, which was even more kid-friendly. And didn't the reason... original Stanley Ike's dying like a police shootout or something? No, his girlfriend shoots him in there. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:15:52 And then there's multiple masks. Yeah, Stanley Ipchus only really survived. He only goes through the original, pretty much every mask series and limited series post that is a different person. He's not always doing the Cuban rumba stuff. No, but he does do that. Often? Too much? No, he does it once and then in the movie.
Starting point is 01:16:12 There's imagery taken from that that is in the movie. Yes, exactly. In the movie he's, Stanley Ipkins is being pursued by the police and he does the Cuban peterumba and they all, they all get on a conga line and then as they're all being, you know, enraptured by the power of the dance, he runs away. But in the, in the comic, he kills them all with a flame throw after that. So, you know, it's different. It is different. But that's the thing, it's like the, it's like a crow remake or whatever. People have such an image of the original in their minds.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Yeah. People, even if it is more accurate to the original. If they do a horribly dark one where this agent of chaos is murdering all these people, people are like, this isn't what I remember. Well, yeah. This isn't Jamie Kennedy. This isn't the Jamie Kennedy experience I know and love. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:59 This isn't Dach Shepherd's podcast. They're the same guy. He goes, hey. Yeah. I got thoughts. I got feelings. Men have depression too. All he's wrong.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Matthew says. Men are fine. Men are fine. Man are fine. Man are fine. Man are fine. Man are fine. Man are fine.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Matthew says best making Blade a half vampire man. True. That was done. So people might not know this. Worst, not making him British. Great. So for the movie version of Blade, they change a bunch of stuff,
Starting point is 01:17:34 including they don't make him British, they're making him American, and they give him all the powers, but none of the weaknesses of a vampire. Yeah. The comic book is, which they end up doing later. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:43 And he gets bitten by Morbius. He does get bitten by Morbius, correct, yes. But he's just a guy who's impervious to vampires. Yeah, he can be, he can't be turned into a vampire. Yeah, but they can still kill him. They can just beat him up. He's just a guy. He's just a guy.
Starting point is 01:17:55 And he had a big disco collar. He did have a big disco collar. Because the costume was also the movie, right? Or was there in later adaptation of that. No, I'm pretty sure it was pretty much disco collar all the way down the line until he got turned into the movie character. Hell yeah, man. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Zachary says, Best organic web shooters. Yeah, I go. Devices. I can see why you would... He says, if all you can do is stick to walls your gecko man at best. It's true.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Yeah. It's weird that all the subsequent Spider-Man and everybody else who's been bitten by a radioactive spider gets pretty much exactly spider powers, including organic webs. It's just Peter Parker, comic book Peter Parker who got, who had to build his own web shooters. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Because again, he was a sticky, sticky, sticky to walls guy. It was a sticky, stinky, stinky little boy. Sticky, sticky little wall. He's also. much, we've talked about this, but Peter Parker is much meaner initially. Yeah, for sure. And they kind of do a little bit of that because, like, he's arrogant, which is what gets Uncle Ben killed. But he's even...
Starting point is 01:18:52 Also, in the movie, he's 30. Yes. But also after it, also in the comics initially when he gets his powers, and he's still kind of a jerk. Yeah. Well, that's how he learns his lesson, isn't it? No, but even after that, I made. Oh, even after that, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they've kind of walked out back.
Starting point is 01:19:07 He's like, oh, this power, I still can't get a girl. Man, R-Five. Man, I fight. Yeah Travis says Organic Webster Yeah Also the Terminaguay one
Starting point is 01:19:20 Nearly had the Because they take them They CGIed them out in some shots Oh interesting Okay Yeah Yeah Because I think
Starting point is 01:19:27 Because you need to You need to have him be a genius Yeah And what else is you gonna What a genius It's sewing a beautiful Flamboyant costume I wish
Starting point is 01:19:35 Yeah That was me Looking in a mirror Watching myself So a beautiful Flamboyer costume Okay But how else do you prove
Starting point is 01:19:42 he's a genius besides he have him built his fantastical web shooters. He can do, I don't know science, he could open a book and go, I can understand this. That's true. I understand this already. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah. He could open a pharmacy. You know? He could. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and they haven't done any of this at any of the life. They can be a scene where he's like, why do you need that? I just do all right.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Yeah, but what did the doctor side? Yeah, the doctor, because I haven't here with the script, so that's why. Yeah. I know you understand you shouldn't take 25 of these at once. Yes, I do. Yes. It says once a day on it. so I do know that. Do you know a genius, right? Do you know, you have to take, you could take it with water? Do you know that, yes.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Before bed. You take one before bed. I know it says, it's a sleeping tablet, I know. I would take, I wouldn't take it as I was getting up. Yes, thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Yes, you are a genius. Organic web shooters. Yeah, I don't mind it. We'll see how they do them in the, also, I'd say, I'd like some, they've never held on a, to a Peter Parker long enough to see a point, where also he can like run a company
Starting point is 01:20:43 and function as an adult or whatever. Yeah, they don't get a grown-up job. Yeah, they never get to that point. So I'd like to see them get to that point at some point. I'll just be like, Andrew Garfield's back and he runs fucking, Knops, all his corporate, whatever. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:20:55 His own company. Peter Parker, big hair, cool hair industry guy. That's right. And you know he's got the, have you seen his hair recently? It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:03 There was a moment. He was like an 80s tennis player. There was a moment where I'm like, like it hit that awkward stage of not long enough. You could do it. I was thinking about it. You should do it. Maybe I will.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Do it. Maybe I will. Coward. Thank you recently for supporting me growing my hair slightly longer, but I did cut all the sides off. I said the sides of trimmed down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I couldn't do it anymore. I woke up one morning and I went, ah.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Men are fine, I said. I said, menified as I clipped my own hair off. Connor says, I'm going to say Modoc in Quantumania. Modoc, of course. Like, best or worst? Well, worst. Like, why would you take the most boring, worst-written MCU villain and try to just,
Starting point is 01:21:42 slide him into the role of one of the weirdest characters in the whole Marvel mythos. So he's talking about... Yeah, because he was there and they had an ability to know. That's why. In the comic books, Modoc is a, like, a weapon of war built by aim. Yes. And it's a guy, but really, like, it's a specific man, but it doesn't really matter. Like, if they, sometimes, they, sometimes AIM will just feel a bunch of modocs.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Yeah. You know, when they're fighting Iron Man, it's just a bunch of big-headed guys or whatever. Mm-hmm. Like, it, it's... I mean, everything in Quantum Mania was much. mistake, I think. Everything. I'm trying to think of a thing that I liked in that, there isn't anything. The guy from The Good Place?
Starting point is 01:22:17 In a random role. Yeah, even then. Like, give him a proper fucking role. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Robin says, no shade to Batman forever. But Tommy Lee Jones's Two-Face has got to be one of the worst adaptations of a comic book
Starting point is 01:22:29 character ever. That sucks. It's bad. It's way too over the top. The makeup is bad. He's not interesting or like... Tommy Lee Jones is one of those guys who did it for his kids. He did it for his kids.
Starting point is 01:22:42 And I think they're probably like, you're going to be like Jack Nicholson. He probably got a huge cut of that film, I'm sure. Yeah, it's shit. Yeah. They're just two, like him and Jim Carrey are like, I don't like those two together. They didn't like that. They didn't like each other, yeah, which is fine. Or maybe Jim Carrey liked him.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Yeah. And of course, Billy Dee Williams was the original Harvey Dent, but of course, gets his, in the Batman spin-off comic books from quite recently. He's finally two-faced. Yeah, good. But not him, though. Because he's retired. because he did Star Wars It's terrible news
Starting point is 01:23:14 All the way down And Simon just a quickgram From Simon says In the 90s Excuse me Simon says Wow In the 90s movie vein
Starting point is 01:23:22 Steel is truly bizarre set of choices Still is a hard watch Yeah And that's such a cool And interesting character That you can only really And Jack's a cool guy And Jack's a cool guy
Starting point is 01:23:32 But you can only really Do at a certain point In the life cycle Or death cycle Of Superman And I would love to see An actual adaptation of the death of Superman
Starting point is 01:23:41 just to see the reign of the Superman in live action. Which is happening in my adventures with Superman to some degree. They're doing cyborgs. Steel has never really been... They did him in Lois and... They did him in Lois and...
Starting point is 01:23:54 Superman or whatever. Superman was. So they've never really done and that's the version that I want because Steele debuted as a man who was inspired by Superman because he was a former weapons designer
Starting point is 01:24:07 and he changed his ways. and then when Superman dies, he builds the steel suit and the original design, I think probably Dan Juergens, I'm going to look it up. Primo. It's great. Like, the all steel with a riveted Superman logo and the cape on it, that's...
Starting point is 01:24:24 All that stuff. And he can fly and he's got the rivet gun and the giant hammer and all that sort of stuff. That is... And the movie is terrible. It is terrible. It doesn't do any of that properly. Doesn't have the S?
Starting point is 01:24:35 Yeah, he needs the S. Yeah. And again, subsequently, when he got his solo series, they took the S off for whatever reason. I think probably because they were like, well, you don't want him to be... Superman's back, you don't want him to be derivative. And they just ran a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 01:24:50 He got superpowers briefly and a bunch of other stuff. I think of that death and then return of Superman run. That post-superman death stuff is way more interesting than the stuff leading up to the doomsday. Just the idea of Superman being gone and these four people showing up and the world reacting to that. Yeah. But in Superman and Lois, it's from another dimension.
Starting point is 01:25:12 He's from another dimension and it is John Henry Iins again, but it is just sort of, it's a Halo suit. He looks like John Halo from Halo. He does that, that actual like the steel helmet with the like the riveted face or whatever. Yeah, yeah. That's the, and if I remember correctly, unless this is a fan art, he's in the, like the proper one with a cape and the logo last frame of the series. Yeah, okay. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:34 And it's, it's not good. I remember seeing him like an image. of him in the suit, but it might have been something they cut out or whatever. I still would have watched all that show. Okay. Steele was created by Louise Simonson and artist John Bogdinovae. Oh. Great design.
Starting point is 01:25:50 John Bogdanova, brilliant. And Louise? Well done. Terrific stuff. Yeah, man. Man. Yeah. I hate to say this, but we could actually move it along.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Let's move it on. We could talk about this forever, but we can't. We'll come back another time. We probably won't. We should. We'll forget. Like, remember we're going to, remember when he did defunc. superhero comic book universes.
Starting point is 01:26:10 And then we came back to it. Publishers, we never came back to it. We should have to remember which ones we covered last time. If somebody could give us a list of those, and then have to be a rolling content. Exactly. It's quickly from Harris, worst eternals or robots who regularly get their hard drive erased.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Wouldn't say regularly, I'll say every birth and death of a different civilization. Bad call. Yeah, great. And they're not, I don't know, what a waste of, it's a shame. Yeah. And they, again, the idea that they took a Jack Kirby creation,
Starting point is 01:26:35 which is just all color and life and incredible designs of just like unmistakable Jack Kirby stuff and post guardians as well so people were audiences were willing to go
Starting point is 01:26:47 colour and light and fun and in space and everything and it's weird and they went 2001 boring obelisks and everybody's boring
Starting point is 01:26:54 and sad some people are fast I didn't like that either all the it's supposed to have all the same powers but some of them are better
Starting point is 01:27:03 than certain powers than the others I don't know I'm going to tell you man some of them don't in the movie. Okay. Cameron said...
Starting point is 01:27:08 Why is one guy flight and heat vision and the others are not? Why is one guy called Icarus? Yeah. Why would they do that? So he could fly under the sun. Why would they do that? Why would they do that? Why would they do that?
Starting point is 01:27:18 A lot of people have said this, including Cameron, the Thor Love and Thunder. It's definitely the worst adaptation of Jason Aaron's work. Yeah, I've been taking so many concepts and putting him in that movie and not being very good. Yeah. Just to... And again, the idea, I'm sure the idea for a lot of this, and it's the same with secret invasion. It's they went. it's a case of money and stardom
Starting point is 01:27:39 and it's Chris Hemsworth can't be Thor forever and he's the money spinner and I'm the money spinner mate that's my Chris Hemp word I'm spiderhead he was in the movie Spiderhead He was Get the flux capacitor or whatever it was
Starting point is 01:27:52 Exactly Flux what's the meditinac It was called darken flocks Yeah But then they clearly went well There's a bunch of storylines We want to do We don't have enough time
Starting point is 01:28:02 We don't have enough money Chris Hemsworth will retire And then we'll bring, if we bring in another guy, people won't like it as much. So let's, a confluence of all this stuff, let's put it in here, let's just do it and it's fine. And we'll knock it out in two hours and it was awful. Worst thing I've ever done, maybe. Maybe. Except maybe secret invasion.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Oh, my God. That probably still is. We should say young Washington. What? I don't worry about it. All right, let's move it along. What is it? Oh, right now.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Yeah. It's time for what we're reading. Oh, my God. Are we going to read? Oh, my God. Hey, look, he's steel. He's the final bloody. That suit looks pretty good.
Starting point is 01:28:34 though? They used it or was that just a concept? It's on the Arrowverse Wiki. Give him the helmet and that's perfect. Comic accurate steel suit from Superman and Lois that didn't. Didn't, I thought it didn't. Didn't make a physical appearance due to budget cuts. Why? They made it. It's there.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Yeah. Wow. Why they made it? Why? Young Washington. Okay, here's the final shot. It's just the Halo suit, but he's got a cape on. Is he got the head?
Starting point is 01:28:56 Yeah, he's got the helmet on. It doesn't work. Is it? No, it's just the... Just a dome. I think they should have gone... Again, like, look, we'll get to what we're in what we're going to read. What they should have done is they should have just had him mask, no mask,
Starting point is 01:29:08 and it's been like, it's got a force field. All right. Or maybe something where people can't recognize him because there's a field or whatever. I don't know who that guy is. Give him the steel mask. Just give him the regular steel mask. All right, bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. I'm doing nothing. This segment where we talk about what
Starting point is 01:29:31 we've been reading or doing or listening to or whatever. Whatever, man. We both read Batman the Mudman. That's so true, isn't it? It was cool. It was a cool time. It was a cool time. It was a cool time.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Yeah. What did you do, though? I'll tell you what, James, for you, for my birthday, you were very kind. Oh, come on, you don't need to brag me. Come on, man. For my 21st birthday, you got me a, a, it's called a, I think it's called a Super Pocket. Yes. It's like a little game boy-sized little device.
Starting point is 01:30:01 And depending on which version you get, it comes with like different games. Put a game in it. You can put a game in it. Yeah. Comes with different games preloaded on it, and you very wisely, I think, got the NeoGeo version. I knew it, too. Because there's some, here's some virgins.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Drake. Do you say virgins? Well, there are some virgins. Not around here, though. No way, man. Not us. Not ever. Not even once.
Starting point is 01:30:22 That's right. But there, James, when you bought it for me and I'm like, oh, this is so nice of you. And then I immediately Google all the other variations. But he got the wrong one. But he bought me the wrong one. I thought about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:34 And then I'm like, no, no, this is it. There's like a Commodore, 64 version or whatever and it's like come on man yeah but anyway it comes with all in various neo geo games and some which i remember from back in the day there's a metal slug or whatever and there's a bunch of like shooter games and stuff like that that i never played that i guess maybe never made it to the neo geos or any of that i'm like i'm very pleasantly surprised by these i love this but um you can also buy little cartridges yeah to add additional games and also there's i go to the handheld one but you can get they're also interchangeable with the actual system yeah
Starting point is 01:31:05 which can plug into a TV. They take the same cartridges. I mean, speaking of physical media, but I bought the IREM cartridge. IREM were an arcade manufacturer. And their forte for the most part was like side-scrolling shooters. So R-type was their most famous one, which is on the cartridge. But I got it because there was a game that I loved playing when I was a kid called In The Hunt. I didn't even remember this one.
Starting point is 01:31:27 But it was a side-scrolling shooter, but instead of being a spaceship or a... You're a submarine. Oh, my God. I do remember. it's so that's the thing about it is it's the the the the timing is slightly different like it's because it's underwater so there's like a the the unit's metal slug graphics yeah yeah yeah so it's like the unique the unique selling point was everything was underwater so it's not it's not slow but there's like a definite like a definite like a standard so i'm been playing that
Starting point is 01:31:56 the thing is of course that it's an arcade game and so you have to like virtually insert coins so there's like the... Is there a rewind function on it? I don't think so. Yeah. But I think you can... I think it's safe states maybe. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:10 But the problem, of course, is that you... I've had to like impose an artificial limit to like how many... Like, see how far I can actually get without... Because if you can virtually insert unlimited credits, then the temptation is just to be like, I'll crash into whatever, I'll get shot by whatever. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You know, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:32:28 So I'm always like, imagine I was a kid in the 90s playing this. I'd put in a dollar and I'd get three credits to whatever and I'm like okay let's see how far it gets I've just been I've been loving that That's cool man So it's interesting you didn't put You didn't have been playing the games that I got you That's interesting
Starting point is 01:32:43 How would I know you like submarine fucking How would I have known There's no there's no there's no I RAM hardware Like you couldn't buy that No there wasn't yeah I'm probably gonna get the Capcom one Because you know every now and then I'll go down Like a rabbit hole of yeah
Starting point is 01:32:56 But I think the cool thing about these And this is not an ad Is it is physical games And they're doing a doom one they've got a doom one coming up as well. Yeah. And that they get the proper licensing, the, what's it called? The rom-emulation is like...
Starting point is 01:33:09 They run for sure. They run for sure. Yeah, you don't have to tweak anything. Yeah. And it's all amazing. What is interesting because, you know, you can buy, you know, there's... Something that's got a million games on it. You can buy something that's got a million games on it.
Starting point is 01:33:22 But oftentimes, it's anything, and I've always experienced this, you know, you used to be able to get like 52-in-one cartridges, you know, gray market cartridges or whatever. The thing about a system that has a thousand games on it is you never really value. At least I don't, I don't value. You play every game for two seconds and then you're like, well, that's it. What's the next one? Yeah. You just burn through them immediately.
Starting point is 01:33:43 And I think when you reduce it down to like a half a dozen games or whatever, you kind of, you're like, I'm going to commit to this. Another cartridge I got, there's a company called the Bitmap Brothers, which was like a It's got a headphone jack, right? It does have a headphone game. So it's got, they're like a computer games manufacturer. I think they're from the UK or something like that. Gom, gum, gum, gum, gum,
Starting point is 01:34:03 back in the day they had a, they had a game called the Chaos Engine, which was like a top-down Steampunk two-player shooter. And so I got the cartridge that had, you probably remember that. It got ported to all the games systems. It's kind of like Smash TV?
Starting point is 01:34:18 Not really. So, well, that's the thing, because I, so I got the cartridge that had the Chaos Engine 2 on it, which I never played back in the day. I'm like, this exciting. This is going to be more of this game that I really liked when I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:34:27 This exciting. But then it turns out that Chaos Engine 2 is like a two-player split-spring capture the flag game. So can you actually do that? You can, but also like, it's not just a run-and-gun shooter. It's just this game and I'm playing against the computer and I don't care about it at all. So like that was a miss.
Starting point is 01:34:47 That was a miss, unfortunately. Well, I didn't buy that one. No, you didn't. That's true. I can't accept that. But you didn't dissuade me from it either, did you? He didn't say here's a gift, but by the way, don't buy Bitmap Brothers cartridge two or whatever.
Starting point is 01:35:00 no, woes. Legacy of Kane, they've done that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's so many cool games. A lot of this stuff is also like, yeah, I would never do this. But also, and again, again, not a sponsor. Not a sponsor, and the reason we're not a sponsor is because obviously sometimes you look at these cartridges and you go, okay, they've obviously split the good ones.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Absolutely. Oh, absolutely. There's like. Also, I would definitely. Yeah. There'd be like two Capcom cartridges. Yeah. One's got Street Fighter 2 and one's.
Starting point is 01:35:30 got Marvel versus Capcom or whatever and then just crap. Yeah. You know what I mean? Absolutely. There's also three Atari Links versions. Oh yeah. It's three or two I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:35:40 Again, I had Atari Links, but looking at that, I'm like, I wouldn't buy this. Yeah. Yeah. Mixed bag, but there you go. But yeah. Well, that's video games. That is video games. Video games are mixed.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Anyway, I love the concept of it and I love the fact that they go to these actual, whoever owns the rights to read. Because most of these companies don't exist anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And figure it out. A lot, but the Bitmap Brothers got purchased, and I think a bunch of UK games years got bought by Rebellion, who own 2000 AD,
Starting point is 01:36:11 and so Judge Dredd and Rogue Trooper and et cetera. You were just talking about Rogue Trooper the other day. Rogue Trooper, he visited the other day, remember the other week? Oh, yeah, I do vaguely remember that. Now you mentioned it. Damn, that was good to see him, wasn't it? But you were saying earlier that the Rogue Trooper movie is quite good. Yeah, I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:36:27 But the earlier reactions are that it's good. Yeah. Yeah. Damn, I remember when Rogue Trooper was here. Yeah, I vaguely remember it. He didn't have a lot to say if I remember correctly. He had a lot to say. Was he explaining his law or something? Yeah, he was. And he just bought a Jeep as well. Huh. You don't remember?
Starting point is 01:36:44 Not really, no. Duncan Jones is doing it. Yeah. So, Haley Outwell's in it. Cool. Sean Bean. I mean, they're not really in it. They're just voices. It doesn't count. It's just animation. We had the real Rogue Trooper.
Starting point is 01:36:58 Yeah, that's right. He was here. Yeah. Evocate though. Really cool concepts. I wish Nintendo would like do more stuff like that. Yeah. I don't want to pirate stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:10 It's a pain in the ass. Just make shit available that you can buy. You can buy and you keep it. And like Nintendo you often can't because you got to rent it off a fucking E store or whatever. Yeah. Whatever, whatever. Or even if you do buy it online, you can lose it. We've talked about.
Starting point is 01:37:22 I mean, it's, you know, there is still a lingering part of me that's just like one day I'll switch this thing on and it'll be like, we deleted all your games. You know, like this isn't even. connected to the internet how do you do this? And people make the argument, well, the physical media doesn't actually last forever. Yeah, no, I understand nothing fucking lasts forever. I understand the impermanence of humanity. Wow.
Starting point is 01:37:41 But also, it's mine. And if it doesn't work, then I can, it's, that's on me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know that when I bought it. Yeah. Anyway, I saw a bluey stage show because it's school holiday.
Starting point is 01:37:56 Oh, okay. They're big puppets and whatever. It's pretty good. Okay. Is it men in suits? No, it's people behind puppeting Like big puppets and whatever It was pretty cleverly done
Starting point is 01:38:03 What, how big is the venue? It was in the comedy theatre In the city So pretty big What's that hold? Million? Yeah, million, but one million people Anyway, that was cool
Starting point is 01:38:13 I took my kids to that Did you get a good view With a million people there? Yeah, I was up the front I was in the front row But I did watch Because this is on prime now Watch this with my kids also
Starting point is 01:38:22 Because I didn't see it The sheep detectives Oh yeah So it's like babe meets like a small town British mystery meets knives out. Nice. It didn't do as well as I thought it did at the box office. And Hugh Jackman's not really in it.
Starting point is 01:38:34 He's in a little bit. Yeah, right. Because he is the titular, he's the sheepherder. He's told his sheep. He reads the murder mysteries every night and then he dies and then they're like, that's all in the trailer. Yeah, we can solve this. Yeah, but also they're like, oh, fuck, we're sheep.
Starting point is 01:38:50 Yeah. So, like, they know that they're, and it's got a great voice cast. Also has Nicholas Gallatin. That's right. He's him man. He's him man. He's him man. He's blonde in this as well.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Wow. It's got tall Greg from Succession. It's got Julia Louise Dreyfus as one of the sheeps and various other sheeps are in it. I really liked it. It's charming. I like the kind of the reveal at the end. It is on at my local cinema still and it is also on streaming for free. Either is fine.
Starting point is 01:39:16 Which do I do? The free one. You've got to see Moana. I don't want to. Live action. I want to see In the Grey. You know I want to see In the Grey. I hardly know her.
Starting point is 01:39:25 Mason? Incredible. Really like the sheep detectives. Highly recommend for some reason. Not for some reason. It was cool. I liked it. Okay, good.
Starting point is 01:39:34 It's just a nice fun thing. Of the Nicholas Galatine releases. Bit of an edge to it as well. You've seen in the last few weeks, which is better? This one, 100%. A bit of it because there's a bit of death and like whatever in it. That's cool. It's like, like, babe's a bit like that.
Starting point is 01:39:47 Yeah, kids can handle that. Yeah, kids can handle anything. Not anything. Mason. Yes. We should move to the next segment of the show. We should. It's called letters.
Starting point is 01:39:55 I agree. Let's theme. Here it is. I agree. Letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only... Is the letters segment? Yeah, of the show.
Starting point is 01:40:06 It's down in here right now. We're going to do letters. Hi, it's me, Rogue Trooper. I've come back to introduce the letters segment. Play the theme, Mason. I did already, thanks, Rogue Trooper. When? Did you just get here?
Starting point is 01:40:18 Yeah, I sent you an email. I said, wait till I get here. Play it again. That's not how the segment works, Rogue Trooper. What do you mean? Well, people email. in weekly planet pod at Gmail. Listen, people email the show
Starting point is 01:40:31 every day, don't they? Yeah, I would say so. And they say, it's weekly planet pot at gmail.com. They say that, yes, right. There's also a planet boardcasting great mates group, Facebook then. But I've looked through here and you haven't emailed me at all. I don't think so, Mason, I emailed you
Starting point is 01:40:45 personally to your personal email. I've checked both my email accounts. You're not, you did email. You should double check it because I'm pretty sure it went through. I'm pretty confident in myself, actually. I'm Rogue Trooper. Rogue Trooper. You should check your your email account right now see if there's any mail delivery files.
Starting point is 01:41:00 I won't do that. Listen, people say out blue, right? They do say that. Yeah, but I mean, they don't say it a lot. I mean, you are blue. Yeah, but I'm not Dr. Manhattan, am I? No, you're a different guy. How different to reckon my dick is. How different do you reckon it is?
Starting point is 01:41:14 The same? Yeah, it's exactly the same. That's amazing you knew that. You're a big fan of me. I can tell. I mean, that was just a guess. I'm going now. That was just a guess.
Starting point is 01:41:24 Okay. See you later, Rogue Troop. Bye, I'll be back next week. Don't. Don't. Don't. I'll send you an email. I don't think you will.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Read the first one first. Is your phone connected to the internet at all? What? The internet? James, he's from the 80s future. He doesn't know. It's not the internet is. I believe him.
Starting point is 01:41:45 That explains a lot. I believe he sent it. He's God. He's not for real. I believe he sent the email and you made the mistake. If I don't trust Rogue Trooper Ball than I trust you. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:54 I should have said you should send us a real letter. Rogue Trooper. Then he probably would have gone through, but then again, I don't want a letter from Rogue Trooper. You like him? I mean, less and less every week, I think. Okay, cool. He explained the lettuce thing, but didn't he? I just had to duck out for a minute. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:09 And it's all above board. Did you play the lettuce name? You got a little bit of blue there on your face there? Like blue makeup? No. They've hastily removed. What do you think my dick looks like? It's an unrelated question.
Starting point is 01:42:22 I'm uninterested in that line of questioning. Because I don't know if you know this, but it's exactly. exactly the same as Dr. Manhattan's. Wow. Yeah. Did you know that? Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Anyway, is this a letter segment of the show? I'd never know because you're always wearing those super high cut, like black briefs that go all the way up to your waist. I could take them off. Don't. Don't do it. I'd play the letters theme. I did. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Sorry. Yeah. Did Rogue Trooper get you to play it? No, I'd played it already and then Rogue Trooper came in. Interesting. Yeah. It's all very interesting. I don't know what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:42:54 But have you got a letter? I can't believe I'm being gas-lit by James and Rogue Troop at the same time. God. It's like they're in cahoots. No. He's an email from Stetton. Stetton. Hello, boys.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Hi, Stetton. Longtime Big Sandwicher here. Whoa, thank you. I work as a... Oh, this is I met Bob Odenkirk Hot Goss. Oh, hell yeah. I work as a bartender when he hosted a fundraiser for the Pinky Swear Foundation, which was founded by Bob's sister for raising funds for childhood cancer.
Starting point is 01:43:21 That's cool. Bob had a guest appearance and told some stories about his time and SNL as a writer and other things. I wanted to get him and say, grab that gem, but seeing how we're supposed to be working, I decided against it. That's probably a good idea. Anyway, the hot gossip is Google lists his height as 5 foot 9, but there is no way he is any taller than 5 foot 4.
Starting point is 01:43:37 I bet I could have lifted him over my head and put him in a bin. What's the deal with so many people in Hollywood lying about their height? But I'll give him this. I now know what you guys mean when you say someone is Hollywood. Handsome. Thanks, Stetton. Some people have got it. They got it in real life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:55 That's awesome. Bob Odenkirk is 5 foot 4? According to Stetton, which is a fake name for a fake guy. Man, I wish I was 5 foot tall. Oh, yeah? 4 tall. Real height. Let me just check.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Because you've got to get him standing next to somebody else. And then in addition to that, you've got to find out who that is. You've got to lure him into a 7-Eleven doorframe where they've got the heights on the side there for crime purposes. How tall is Chuck McGill? What's his name again? Slippin' Jimmy. That's his name. Saul, Goodman?
Starting point is 01:44:25 No, Chuck McGill. brother. He's in spinal tap. Yeah. I've forgotten. James, I've forgotten, all right? Maybe. I'm frazzled.
Starting point is 01:44:34 I'm all out of sorts. I was accosted by rogue trooper. Michael McKinia's 5'11 and they look similar high, but also they're standing next to each up. It could be in a box. Yeah, and there's an angle. It's the angle as well that you take the photo from. This shit's crazy.
Starting point is 01:44:45 I'm loving all of this. You'd think as well is probably like a promotional photo of like sort, better call Saul, Saul, Goodman. He's standing next to one of those police. Yeah. You know, the mugshot thing. and they'd have the, but they fake those all the time. It's always like 6-1.
Starting point is 01:45:00 I'm literally looking at that and it says he's six-foot tall. Like they did that in the show. Yeah, no, that's not true. Yeah, great. That's not true. Alex says, how long do you think the current DC-EU? How long do you think he, how tall do you think he is? And how long do you think he's been that tall?
Starting point is 01:45:13 Alex Funder. Yep, or Bob Oden Kerr. He's probably, if he says 5-4. Maybe he shrunk a little. He could, people shrink, he had a heart attack. But he made it hard-to-take. He did all that training for nobody. Maybe he shrunk down for nobody.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Yeah. He did so many crunches he shrunk down. It's probably so wide from doing muscles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Alex says, how long do you think the current DCEU? It's called DCU, Alex. Come on, Alex. Or DC Studios, Alex.
Starting point is 01:45:38 What are you a funder of misinformation? Is that true? Yeah. What are you working for Peter Thiel? Are you? Yeah. Do you think James Gum will stay the head of it? What do you most want to see out of the universe?
Starting point is 01:45:49 I just want to see good stuff. So his contract is still 2027. Probably something like that. Yeah. If he continues to make money. and he plays whatever game that the Thiels want him. The Thiels? Who is it?
Starting point is 01:46:00 The Ellisons? That want him to play. The Paramat. It's more the money thing. The Paramat family. Yeah. Then. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:04 So, but the honest answer is I have no fucking idea. No. If Man of Tomorrow is a profound hit. Yeah. Like huge money. I think the answer is which is going to make more money, Man of Tomorrow or the Batman Part 2?
Starting point is 01:46:18 Mm. If it's interesting. If it's the Batman part two, I think conversation will start being had of like, can we get Matt Reeves into some sort of decision-making? capacity, blah, blah, blah, or whoever is a big producer on that. Everyone's looking for the MCU, but like we said, it's impossible. They can't do it again.
Starting point is 01:46:32 It can't be replicated. We've seen that time and time again. Yes. But this is probably... But maybe this time? Well, this is the best shot at doing something like that, but even then, look how uncertain it is despite that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:44 So, you know, yeah. I saw a tweet or something, uh, some words on the internet at some one at some one and they said, James Gunney is doing phase four content in phase one. How do you feel about that? Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Again, like, I don't care what characters he brings to the screen. I just want them to be good.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Yeah, I don't care. Like, Supergirl, I thought, that could have been really cool and it just wasn't. Yeah. But it wasn't because I'm like, oh, that's a B. Like, I know Supergirl is like a B tier character at best. Yeah. It's interesting how, like, the... Face4 content in terms of, like, output or in, like, terms of character choice?
Starting point is 01:47:23 I think in terms of character choice. Yeah, because I was going to say, Because the output in general has been positive. Because it's interesting the degree, you know, because everybody has their thoughts and theories on why Supergirl didn't do particularly well. But like the translation, the mechanism of like the trailers, what's the conversion of the trailers to ticket sales or whatever? Are people like, and again, we can't relate to normal people on the level of this sort of thing
Starting point is 01:47:51 because we've seen infinite numbers of these. but like is it because people saw the trailers or the bus ads or whatever it was and went doesn't look appealing to me or was it just a case of like Supergirl as a character is not a draw for people
Starting point is 01:48:09 I think it's an I think it's all of it yeah and maybe if Supergirl as a character was in a previous movie in a larger sense and people went oh I was I like that character yeah
Starting point is 01:48:19 I'll see a solo movie movie with her maybe that's maybe that's the problem is the... And I think also like a big part of it, among other things, that I don't think it, it didn't appeal to any women. Right. Yeah. Like, they're like, and kids.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Like, I didn't take my daughter. Yeah. She was too young for like what was in. I would have taken her if it was, if I enjoyed it enough and I thought it was suitable. But I didn't and it wasn't. So I think that's a factor. Yeah. Anyway, I'm looking next to a picture of, um, here we go, he was doing.
Starting point is 01:48:46 He was standing next to what's his name, Aaron Paul. And apparently Aaron Paul is five foot eight and he's looked shorter than Aaron Paul, but Farron Paul wouldn't be 5 foot 8. He would be short because that's his Hollywood height. Oh, Hollywood height. So the guy who says is 5 foot 11 is shorter than the guy who says is supposed to be 5 foot 8. No, he says Bob Vernon Kirk says he's 5 foot 9. But if you look here, they're standing at some kind of Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:49:10 And also, Aaron Paul is slightly further back. He is further back. And he's still taller, noticeably taller. But Bob Erden Kirk has a hat on. He has a hat on. That's hard. Okay. Okay. So Bob Odenkirk supposedly 5 foot 9, do we say?
Starting point is 01:49:26 In his official Hollywood height, but he apparently 5 foot 4. Okay. I would say him and Aaron Paul are the same height, right? I don't know. Something to think about. Very something to think about, isn't it? Anyway, what else? Here's an email from Anna. Anna?
Starting point is 01:49:42 Winter question, great email to read on the pod. Well, all right. Yeah. Hey, boys, we're having an extreme heat wave here in the US. It's 105 Fahrenheit. That's 40 Celsius. No. Outside and 87 degrees, 30 degrees in my apartment right now, which is illegal in my state. Oh my God. Got my feet in a cold tub of water and I keep rotating ice packs from the freezer.
Starting point is 01:50:01 I know it's winter in Australia right now and I'd love to hear about how cold it is there to remind me that the agony will end someday. Do you guys have any favorite winter activities, ways to keep warm or things you do to keep cool in the summer? Please help. Much love and thanks for the pod. Jealous that you guys have cold right now. Then it says Charlie. I don't know if this is from Anna or Charlie. You love the cold, don't know.
Starting point is 01:50:20 I love the cold. It's my favorite. You hate the heat. I love a clear day with no rain and it's really cold. Yeah. So, and we haven't even hit really cold yet. No,
Starting point is 01:50:28 yeah. We're still in double digits. Oh, the way last week, it was real cold down there. The thing about Melbourne I don't like is there's only, it's rarely, it's rare,
Starting point is 01:50:35 days that I can actually wear my, my thickest and downiest of coats. Robert downiest of coats. Exactly, right? Because like, I also run hot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:45 And I love it, I love a good piece of outerwear and I run hot. So, like, On a 12 degree day, I can just wear this and be like, this is fine, actually. Cool. I'm running hot. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:50:55 So the combination of days where it's cold enough for me to wear like a big, big, big duffel coat and a big sweater or whatever, quite rare, which is a shame. I should move to somewhere colder. Like where? Finland. You don't want to go to Finland? I don't want to go to Finland. I don't want to record remotely.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Also move to Finland with you. Yeah, and I get involved in some sort of sad, cold murder drama, you know? No, you would too immediately. Constantly. Yeah. Immediately and constantly. It's quite cold here and it's wet as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Which is what I don't like. I don't like it when it's cold and rainy. No, the wet's worse. How do you keep, what are you doing the heat? What was the heat? Wasn't there a heat question in there? No, there is, do you guys have any favorite winter activities or ways to keep warm? Ah.
Starting point is 01:51:38 In Melbourne, it's layers. Yeah, it's layers. Yeah, it's, because it's, it's, the weather changes all the time. I don't like the weather you wait five minutes. For the first time ever in my entire life, this house says that I mean, it has central heating. Yeah. It's fucking incredible. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:51:51 Yeah. And I've just realized I've just been cold my entire life. Yeah, right. And it's so good. Emotionally. Yes, still, to this day. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Central heating won't fix that, Mason. You should learn to be open emotionally like our friend Rogue Trooper. I don't think I want to do that, but I do like Rogue Trooper. And what did you say we've got similar dicks? Is that right? I've never said anything of the sort, but you kept trying to imply it. Nobody said that except you. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:52:17 This is John... What's your favorite? interact with, oh, there's a, there's a, there's something come on tonight called the Firelight Festival. It's a long way away, but I'm making the trip because they, there's a, I know there's a smores truck there. Oh, hell yeah. You can make smores at home.
Starting point is 01:52:28 Yeah, but it's working. In your microwave. I'm not going to microwave a smore. Not yet. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I like, just, you know, you go like a cozy pub.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Yes. I love something like that. A mold wine. I had a mold wine the other day. Knock me up. Knock me for a bloody loop. I tell you that much. Oh.
Starting point is 01:52:44 And it's like, I mean, it's a cold drink. Yeah, but like it's not a summer. I will drink a Guinness in the summer, but a got a Guinness in the winter in a warm bar. Love it. Jonathan Gomez says it feels like every Christopher Nolan movie builds up more hype than the last of the point where Christopher Nolan, where it feels like he's painted himself into a corner of big movie,
Starting point is 01:53:04 a big budget, big movie. What directors do you think would benefit from the occasional restrictive budget? I think more directors should put that upon themselves and be like, I challenge. I'm a little 20 million. I've said this before about Tarantino and Rodriguez when they did the grindhouse movies. They should have just done them for no money. But they attempted to do like a low budget looking movie with a lot of money and a lot of visual effects.
Starting point is 01:53:27 And I think if they're just gone, how much does the asylum, how much money do they spend making a terrible B movie now that's directed DVD or director streaming? Oh, it's a million bucks. Let's do that and see what we can do. You also know that they would have got people who have just been like, I'll do it for cheap or whatever because I want to work for Taratino. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I think maybe... You can't accidentally make a B movie.
Starting point is 01:53:48 No, that's true also, yeah. I think we should... Not accidentally, on purpose. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, for sure. Also, people love the bad movie Bible, the YouTube channel. He did a video recently on all the Bruce Lee rip-offs that happened around about as he rose to fame and then around his death. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:54:06 It's a very good video. And it's part one, and it's like more than an hour, so it's good stuff. Two parts, you're telling me. Maybe two parts, maybe more than two parts. I think Nolan should do a lower budget movie after this one. Like how much further can he go? How much lower can he go? Especially we don't know how much money this is going to make.
Starting point is 01:54:24 I think you might have to if this, I mean, if this doesn't do Oppenheimer money, which it probably won't. What do you think? I don't know. It's hard to say. There's a lot of discourse around it, but I think all of it is wrong. But also, but like Oppenheimer did so well, I think, because of the cultural pairing with Barbie.
Starting point is 01:54:40 Yeah. People like wouldn't be funny. Like all the people who wouldn't have normally said. in Oppenheim, but we'll have seen a Barbie and vice versa. Wouldn't it be funny if we saw both? Yeah. And that kind of, you know, but there isn't that now. I wonder if people are like, because it's different than anything else that is coming out
Starting point is 01:54:53 at the moment and it is kind of, you know, their event movies, it will kind of, and if it's good, yep, then it will kind of just stick around for a bit. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, I also, you know, he is quite savvy in the sense that I'm sure he is negotiated. This is not going to go to streaming after three weeks or whatever. And I think he's also very intentional with his casting and people, he chooses. that are good, like in the public eye. Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:17 And we'll do, I, I know he's like offline and whatever, but it's Tom Holden and Robert Pattinson and Anne Hathaway. I know he's worked with a lot of those people before. But that's a pretty, like, savvy cast. 100% Zendaya is in there as well. Yeah, to Zendaya to like send out into the world. That's also interesting because, I don't know if this is by design or not, but Zendaya or, of course, and Tom Holland are doing Spider-Man Press right now.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Yeah, and then that's two weeks after. Yeah, and they're going to, you know, and they're like, Oh, yeah, the question will come up. Oh, and you're also in the Odyssey as well kind of thing. So, yeah. Yes. Yeah, man. Done another question or?
Starting point is 01:55:54 Maybe, but I don't know. Did I have another thought? Big movie directors, restricted budget? Yeah, who should have been? Who would benefit from us? What would Spielberg do with like a jaw style equivalent budget now? I'd like to see something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:05 I think they could all. Everybody would benefit. Everybody would benefit from a cheap. From a cheap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just to go, okay, what do I need? I need a good script and I need some good ideas and I need to pre-plan this in advance.
Starting point is 01:56:19 No. No. Unlimited budget. That's what I want. Low budget Star Wars. Oh, my God. Whatever the equivalent price of original Star Wars was now, which is still, I'm sure, a lot of money. But like, do that.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Make a Star Wars with that. I also wonder if like, because, you know, studios that they work with or production companies that, you know, do special effects, like they would end up getting screwed. I love special effects. or they'd be like, well, probably less now, but I know for like Return of the Jedi because they used a working tile, I don't know if you know this. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 01:56:51 So the people wouldn't charge Star Wars equivalent. Right, like the, like a wedding, wedding prices. Yeah, but now it's like it's the opposite of that because they, like, special effects studios were like under, underbid, yeah, underbid to get, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go on, Mason. This is an email from Nevin.
Starting point is 01:57:09 Nevin. He says, hey, gent's been a big fan of the show for every year now. Believe you. While my wife and I do love watching a good movie, I've noticed over the last year we've transitioned away from watching episodic series and watch more reality TV or old sitcoms after a long workday. It feels easier to digest and doesn't feel as much of a commitment as seeing if we want to enter a new story, a new eight to ten hour story that we can sometimes tell we won't be interested
Starting point is 01:57:32 in after the first episode. The show really has to peak our interest to commit to. My question is, do you ever have this issue when committing to TV shows to discuss in segments of the show or just enjoy in your personal lives? What else do you watch to take a break from it? God. I haven't watched the new season of the bear. No, me neither.
Starting point is 01:57:48 The new and final season of the bear, which I think is season five. I've got to watch that straight episode that happened a few weeks ago. But I just haven't got to it. Apparently it takes... It took me ages to watch four as well. It takes place... Apparently it takes place over a single day, I think, unless I'm misreading that. But part of me is just like, that sounds like the whole long day.
Starting point is 01:58:07 Sounds stressful. It sounds like I'm going to be at an hour shift at the bear, which is just calmie screaming. and everybody going. You got to make the pasta. Yeah, we know. And there's a bear in here? We know, Kami.
Starting point is 01:58:19 We know the two things. This is our job. I'm furiously smoking or I don't smoke. Kami, why did you get into this business if you're so stressed about making food? Because I want to die young. Oh, you can. All right. See you later.
Starting point is 01:58:32 Okay. I'm going to die in this fridge. Good luck with the bear. Yeah. Which is in the kitchen. It's a real bear. Yeah. It's right.
Starting point is 01:58:38 I wonder if they get the bear out of the kitchen. And I'll be free on it. Mm. Yeah. I don't think the rest of one would be as good. I think that bear and the pressure of having a bear in the kitchen. Yeah, it's a real pressure cooker, isn't it? Because they're like, what if it runs out and eats one of the patrons?
Starting point is 01:58:49 What if it eats Joel McAle? Exactly. He'll give us a bad review. It's right. He gives a bad reviewer. No, I know. That's the worst part. Yeah, that would be a bad part, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 01:58:59 What if the bear knocks over the pressure cooker? That would be a double pressure cooker situation. Oh, my God. That would be. Yeah. Christopher says? Oh, wait, this is like, do you have this issue on committing the TV shows? Oh, yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:59:11 What do you watch when you're not trying to watch? watch a again I watch I usually just don't yeah I watch YouTube videos about I watch YouTube videos about old video games mostly
Starting point is 01:59:19 yeah and like I'll read something yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah which I know is yuck but my YouTube algorithm is like because I like
Starting point is 01:59:26 looking at an unboxing usually like a watch unboxing or whatever so at some point my algorithm tipped over and it's like you want to watch a handgun unboxing
Starting point is 01:59:33 I'm like kind of yeah they are big I've never seen a handgun unboxing yeah I assume they just came loose
Starting point is 01:59:39 that's right they often come in a nice little range bag. Just loosen the mail. Someone just pushes a fucking six-shoot. It's got a stamp. And sometimes they've turned the cylinder around, so the stamp is in it.
Starting point is 01:59:51 Oh, no. I don't know. I think it's interesting because it's like it is like watches. You don't need, I don't need a watch, but I've got a million. It's like, you don't need a gun, but you don't know it. Yeah, I got a million guns. Yeah. But I'm like, okay, like it's sort of like an interesting industrial object to look at.
Starting point is 02:00:07 Well, I've been watching endless jackass interviews. Oh, yeah, you mentioned that, yeah. Which is it actually true But that's what YouTube thinks I want Yeah I think they should read You know they do hot ones versus Yeah
Starting point is 02:00:18 They keep calling them the wings of death And I don't like it You know like because no one's actually died Wow They should kill somebody That's what I'm saying Finally they kill someone And then it's earned the title
Starting point is 02:00:26 Kill Sean Evans I think he should fall on his sword And by that I mean chicken wing Kill him with the chicken wing Yeah kill him in the chicken wing Sharpen chicken wing Yeah I barely watch those
Starting point is 02:00:35 I don't think there is interesting No I don't think so either Yeah Yeah But it's also they can push out additional content Yeah, because it's also the thing about, it's always like
Starting point is 02:00:44 rank all your co-stars from the biggest dumb ass to an even bigger dumbass or whatever and they're like, I'm not going to do that, I'm going to eat it, I'm going to eat a chicken wing. Like it's quite a rare person on that show who's like, okay, I'll give you a list of all the people I have. Oh, I'll rather read a chicken wing. Look, they struck gold.
Starting point is 02:00:59 And then you buy the t-shirt that says, I'd rather want you to eat a dog. Oh, I'd rather go around the back. Yeah. Yeah. They struck gold with hot ones Yeah, great. interview format and looking for other chicken wing related things.
Starting point is 02:01:12 But with that, you could do anything. It doesn't have to be answer this question or don't answer a question. That's true. Which you won't answer. It could be contemplated question and never say anything. Wow, that's interesting too. Christopher says, Sony Vanous is moving away from physical games. Yes, Christopher.
Starting point is 02:01:26 We know. We mention it. We're not listening. If you could own one game console and its entire physical game library, which would you choose? Oh, I hit my microphone with my fist! Wow. So I go on. I would have to say the PS2.
Starting point is 02:01:42 Okay. Because I love that era of... But it's probably... I should probably pick PS4. Yeah. Or three. Yeah. Super Nintendo.
Starting point is 02:01:51 It's pretty cool. And it'd be worth a bunch. Yeah. I can sell it immediately. And you go into all the cartridges. It's right. Yeah. This isn't working.
Starting point is 02:02:01 That's right. Because I think that was... I want to play Star Fox. Yeah. That was probably... We call a Star Wing in Australia. Uh, I... Probably because that was the era, like, games were plentiful,
Starting point is 02:02:11 but you couldn't afford everything. So to just be like, oh, there's so many that I never got around to. The Wayne's World. I think I played the Wayne's World game. He thinks he did. I think I did. Yeah. Do you play the Rogue Tripper game?
Starting point is 02:02:23 Oh, no. Oh, no. No, sorry. It was a different guy. I looked as well as if he was actually going to come through the door. Theater of Mind. Incredible theater of the mind. I mean, if you'd hired a guy to show.
Starting point is 02:02:38 shop shirtless covered in blue paint that would have blown my mind maybe one of our friends how good do you think that bit would be yes like after the initial oh
Starting point is 02:02:52 like that's not and he's just standing there and it's quite cold outside it's quite cold and like this is not a visual it's not a visual format yeah so you have to explain it and people like wait did that really happen
Starting point is 02:03:04 yes yeah it did it just happened we're playing it down, but it actually... It happened. And I want to be clear, I didn't hire him. It's just a coincidence. Yeah, it's your friend Barry. That's my friend Barry.
Starting point is 02:03:15 We put him in blue face. Yep, and he likes that. Yeah. That's the show? That is the absolute show. Thank God. I got to check on those chips I put in the oven. Check on those chips, folks.
Starting point is 02:03:24 First of all, check on your chips. Hashtag check on your chips. I literally do. No, I'm talking to the listeners. No, I'm telling you that. Okay, terrific. Because they've got a bird. Okay.
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Starting point is 02:03:55 of a change the name of the podcast of the bullpen in honor of John Nolan and his daring deeds as he takes on the challenge of being a rookie in the LAPD in his 40s. Excellent. I saw some paparact. photos of John Nolan? Nathan Phippian. And for a moment, I'm like, why the paparazzi taking photos of Nathan Philean?
Starting point is 02:04:14 And I'm like, oh yeah, because he's one of the biggest... He's one of the biggest TV shows in the world, yeah. He's the rookie. He is the rookie. He's not a rookie anymore, though. No, no, no, no, no. He's moved up the ranks. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 02:06:09 Yes. And other things probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Terrific. Next week. Moana. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 02:06:15 And evil dead burn. For me, it will be. All right, fine. Good. Take your kids to evil dead burn. If I took my kids to that, they would never be the same. In a good way. In a good way.
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