The Weekly Planet - 632 The Odyssey! (big movie)
Episode Date: July 20, 2026Big movie alert! It’s time for our review of Christopther Nolan’s The Odyssey, a movie which is defying the definitely real and genuine backlash already on its way to make a billion dollars. We a...lso talk the passing of Sam Neil, casting rumours and confirmation for X-Men and Man of Tomorrow with the return of Blue Beetle, trailers highlighting the start of The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt for Gollum, Digger and The Batman Part II and Tom Cruise’s big movie thoughts for The Odyssey. Thanks for listening!New bonus clickbait podcast and video out now! Relieve the Star Wars trilogy in the worst way possible with James & Maso on bigsandwich.co, patreon.com/mrsundaymovies or via YouTube Membership on youtube.com/mrsundaymoviesPLEASE be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start08:52 Adam Driver X-Men Casting12:48 Bradley Cooper G.I.Joe Movie14:58 Blue Beetle Returns in Man of Tomorrow16:45 Bad News for God of War Series21:45 Hunt of Gollum Teaser (and conspiracy?!)26:32 Tom Cruise's Digger Trailer27:57 The Batman Part 2 First Look & Delay33:08 The Odyssey Big Movie Review01:00:16 The Odyssey Spoiler Segment01:18:22 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:34:55 Letters, It's Time For LettersSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the weekly planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
My name is James also known as Mr. Sunday with me is always my co-host Nick Mason.
That's right.
Nicholas Crisp Can Opening Mason. I'm here.
That's what's on my birth certificate.
Don't steal my identity.
I might?
No, don't.
Okay.
What are you up to?
I'm recording a podcast.
Oh yeah.
You're your license on you?
For a podcast recording.
Can I see it?
Your driver's license.
No, you can't see my driver's license.
I just want to look at it for a minute.
I don't think you've got your camera.
You've got your phone camera out ready to film something.
Yeah, I want to get a selfie with it.
It's fun.
That would be fun, actually.
People are doing it.
Yeah, that would be good.
People are doing it.
That's the new greatest trend.
Get out there.
Get yourself with your friend's identification.
Give it to the companies.
Absolutely.
Give it to all the corporations.
Please do.
Well, speaking of Mason, big corporation makes a big movie this week.
Hell yeah, bro.
I know I don't agree with that.
But, you know, that's right.
You know where art intersects with commerce?
Not on my watch.
No, thank you.
Not having it?
I'm not having it.
Jog on, mate.
Oh, you want to make a movie that is artistically important and makes money?
Get out of here.
Yeah.
Keep moving.
I agree.
Don't even look me in the eye.
Nolan, you dog.
That's right, because we're talking about the Odyssey.
If you don't want to skip to that, you can because Rob Collings who edits this, says time codes below.
It is a sterling job.
He really does.
He's the Christopher Nolan, I think, of editing this podcast.
Yes.
Yeah.
He probably is.
Scarf on, editing software on, let's go.
British-ish.
British-ish, we think.
Yeah, ish.
Ish.
Yeah.
We're also going to talk the passing of Sam Neal.
Aw.
We're going to talk about some casting rumors.
Hooray!
We're going to talk about some God of War mishaps.
Oh.
Yeah.
And then trailers for a few things, including a starting production date thing for the Lord of the Rings,
the hunt for Golan.
Digger.
Which you have some issues with.
Yeah, I do.
Wow.
Digger with Tom.
there's a conspiracy.
I didn't say this.
You, no, I didn't say that.
You gave off the vibe that you think there's a conspiracy regarding the opening first few
moments of filming.
That was not my intended vibe.
The hunt for Golem, okay.
Tom Cruise's latest movie, Digger.
Digger.
And a production start for the Batman part two, which gives us a little clue as to what
Batman's going to look like, mostly the same.
Giving Blue Steel.
Giving Blue Steel.
So that's all very exciting, I think.
I think we're weak.
Let's start here with sad news, though.
Sam Neal has passed away at age 79.
People would no doubt know him probably most famously for Jurassic Park 1, but also 3 and 6.
Yes.
But famously 1.
Jurassic Park 1, Jurassic Park 3.
Jurassic Park, Jurassic bugs.
Hmm.
Big bugs.
Yeah.
Big-ish.
Big-ish, yeah.
There's also, I mean, he's been in such incredible things.
Yeah, well, what I was going to say is it.
He was Merlin.
He was Merlin.
He was Merlin.
He was a telemovie movie.
It's better than you think.
Merlin telemovie.
And then there was a sequel to that a few years later.
What I thought was very sort of heartwarming this week
is the outpouring of tributes
from all sorts of different corners of the entertainment world
because there's people who love him for the Jurassic Park movies
and some more family-friendly stuff
but all like the horror subreddits and stuff
were like, you know...
Oh my God, Event Horizon.
Well, Event Horizon, he's the Antichrist in Oman 3.
He's in the mouth of madness,
which is the John Carpenter...
I haven't seen them.
It's the H.B. Lovecraft Eldridge.
Choro kind of one.
And, you know, he's in dead calm with Nicole Kidman.
Yes, that's right.
He's in death in Brunswick.
He's in death in Brunswick.
Yeah, a few years ago, he got cancer and he recovered from cancer.
But in that period where he was recovering, he wrote an autobiography called Did I Ever Tell
You ever tell you this, which is on Spotify, if you want to listen to the audiobook.
Does he do the voice?
Yes.
Yeah.
The voice of Sam Neal.
He does do the voice of Samuel.
Good.
But he was born in Northern Ireland, and then his family moved to Christchurch in New Zealand when he was
Seven.
Yeah, seven.
And then he wanted to become an actor, but New Zealand didn't really have a film industry to speak of.
Yeah.
And it doesn't now, because they destroyed it.
It got eaten by Lord of the Rings.
Lord of the Rings destroyed it.
But then New Zealand made their first, like, full feature film in years called Sleeping Dogs, which is sort of like...
Oh, like the video game.
Not at all like the video game.
It's sort of like New Zealand's Mad Max.
So it's like...
And when did Mad Max come out?
79?
So it predates Mad Max.
But it's like...
It's like the original Mad Max.
where it's like a dystopian society that's crumbling,
but it hasn't collapsed yet.
Okay, right.
Yes, 79, yeah.
So he's in that,
and then he was in my brilliant career,
which is the Australian movie,
the Gillianne Armstrong movie.
He's the love interest.
Oh, it's 77.
That was before,
that was pre-Mad Max.
That's what I'm saying, yeah.
I thought you said it came after.
Oh, so Mad Max stole from this.
Not really.
Oh, my God.
They're very different.
I can't believe Mad Max did this to us.
Come on, man.
I can't believe.
I mean, it is a disgrace.
Mel Gibson has done this to us.
I can't believe Mel Gibson and Dr.
Emmett Brown.
Yeah, I can't believe they've done that.
What's the director of George?
George Miller.
George Miller, there we go.
But yeah, he's, if you are in Australia, if you want to go to the SBS, they've got
my brilliant career.
I'll do a VPN.
Yeah, yeah, I'll do a VPN.
They're at Death in Brunswick, which is a great Australian movie, like, some very small
budget from early 1990 or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, about then.
It's got a bunch of stuff.
And yeah, just like...
There's also, the people who made the castle, which is one of the great Australian comedies.
The Dish.
The Dish is a follow-up to that.
It's about receiving a transmission.
from the moon from the first.
Yeah, so there's a place in Australia called Parks and they have a radio telescope
or they did and it's about their role in the space race.
It's really good.
It's a really good movie.
Patrick Warburton, Puddy is in it as well as like the American representative who's popped in Australia.
That's really good as well.
Hunt for the Wilder people.
Hound of the Wilder people.
Like 10 odd years ago.
Great movie.
My kids love that movie.
Kids in general love that movie.
100%.
Yeah.
So his ex-wife and journalist, you know, Laura Tingle.
Oh, yeah.
She spoke about him saying he'd been fighting various forms of cancer for at least five years
intensively.
He'd had a lot of chemo and a lot of immunotherapy and thankfully it had finally cleared him
of the blood cancer that he'd had, but it left him pretty compromised in terms of his immune
system and I think his poor body sort of got a bit exhausted.
So he's been pretty sick for the last couple of weeks and everybody who loved him
have been willing him on from near and far, but I think it was just a bit too much
to recover from one more time.
Because if you look at his Instagram, and I don't know whether these were filmed recently,
but there's ones from like June, you know, like videos of him.
Yeah, yeah.
Up and about.
So, yeah, really, that sucks.
Like, you know, sometimes someone evil, truly evil dies, not to name any names.
And that's good.
Yeah.
But then sometimes people like saying, you know, but as far as Ramon I can tell,
no one has a bad word to say about him.
Just love being on his farm and losing money on his vineyard.
Absolutely.
Yeah, a lot of conservation work as well.
You know, like he was anti-mining, which of Australia, the whole economy is built on mining.
And by that, I mean, it goes, they dig up everything and give it to, like, one person.
I don't remember this.
Apparently, the Premier of Jurassic Park, he sat next to Princess Diana.
Oh, yeah.
And he revealed in an interview that his son was next to him, and he revealed that his son couldn't stop farting during the interview.
I don't know if you see this.
You've seen this interview.
And he's like, you know, it was this royal premier in London.
It was a fortuitous occasion.
My son was sitting on the other side.
It was kind of unfortunate because once it starts getting exciting,
about 45 minutes in, he was so carried away with things.
He's about 10 years old at this point.
He starts to fart unreasonably.
Unreasonably.
It wasn't that audible.
It was very smelly, and it was sort of a draft through the cinema,
and it was all drifting in the princess's direction.
But in the interview, Jeff Goldman went on to say,
I've heard that story so many times,
and it's amazing the extent he will go to to blame the boy.
Oh, yeah, no, just great film.
Great filmography, just, you know.
Have we missed anything?
Probably not.
He's got that James Bond audition actually from the 80s.
Oh, yeah, he was almost James Bond.
I mean, I don't know if he was almost James Bond, but...
Yeah, he was closer than us.
Yeah, he was a little bit closer than us.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah, there you go.
It's really interesting, varied career.
Yeah.
But yeah, check out some of those old things, if you haven't.
He's also in Peter Rabbit.
He's also in Peaky Blinders.
He is in Peaky Blinders.
That's right.
God, he gets Peaky Blinded.
I hope he got so much money for Jurassic Park Bugger.
Jurassic Park.
Oh my God, me too.
Yeah.
Because it's a bad movie.
100%.
But he's not.
That's true, yeah.
Bad in that movie or any movie.
Big loss.
Okay, Mason.
Let's get...
Big loss, sorry.
Epic loss.
So, we should stop.
Don't you think?
No.
Just this whole thing?
Yeah.
Maybe, yeah, maybe.
Sometimes you just have to, you know?
And then you regret it.
So this is a segment called casting.
Rumors and casting Trumers because some of these things are true.
Okay, casting Truman's?
Trumman's show remake.
But it's been done already.
Oh, do you want to bring it back?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, remake.
I think they're going to base it around that weird video Jim Carrey did about wanting to marry Emma Stone.
Terrific.
Do you have seen that video?
I have seen that video, yeah.
Yeah.
So we hadn't met, to be clear.
It wasn't like he was dating Emma Stone and he was like, maybe I'll marry her.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
He'd never met her in movies.
Yeah.
I wanted to marry her.
All right.
Even though he's like a lot older.
A lot older.
Absolutely, yes.
It doesn't matter.
It matters.
Don't do that.
So yes, if there is a message from this at all.
That's right.
So Adam Driver, his name has been bounced around a lot last week for some roles in X-Men, including
Magneto or Mr. Sinister.
Or maybe he's not going to be one or either of those guys all he is.
Maybe he's going to be every guy.
Maybe this is going to be X-Men, new universe of X-Men, everybody's Adam Driver.
I don't think he should do X-Men.
And I don't mean because he'd be bad.
I just don't think he needs to.
And he just shouldn't.
That's what I think.
But sometimes you want a guy to take a big paycheck
so they can do some stuff that's interesting later.
I mean, we'll probably talk about this later, but you know.
He did that already.
He already did Star Wars.
He did Star Wars, it's true, yeah.
But, you know, he's got bills to pay.
I guess he knows.
People have talked about, I saw a lot of people talk about this week,
obviously Pattinson because he's in the Odyssey.
Oh, yeah.
That, you know, the fact that he could take,
you know, he took Twilight and a bunch of other, like, you know, paycheck movies that he liked being in.
And he's subsequently done just a bunch of weird stuff that he finds interesting.
So, you know, that's...
I also think it's interesting that he'll happily talk about Twilight.
Like, he's not ashamed of it at all, you know.
Nor should he be.
Nor should he be.
Those are great movies.
Agreed.
So, yeah, also, Kaylee Spaney might be rogue.
That's a name that got thrown up.
I don't hate that at all.
Sure.
We'll see.
I don't know.
I guess the only X-Men character they're keeping his Wolverine.
They're keeping Hugh Jackman.
and there's been the turf everyone else.
Okay, yeah, great.
I'm assuming.
Old Wolverine, old Wolverine, there is.
He's old, isn't he?
Look how old he is.
Wow.
But the adamantium's keeping him young.
And everybody has to be like, mm-hmm, yep.
Well, the adamantium took all my collagen, but it died my hair brown.
The adamantium leached out on my buckle fat, and you can't get that back.
Uh, it's...
The adamantium was leached out of my buckle fat, and you can't get that back.
Adamante was pulling my face back rapidly.
I don't think he's had that done.
No, not yet.
No.
It's going to get that.
What are they called?
The Deep Plane Facelift?
You know an awful lot about the concept of the deep plane facelift.
Dude, you should see my Instagram.
It's insane.
I bet it is.
Because that's the one where they've done your entire face, right?
Yeah, it's like.
Who's had it done?
Brad Pitt had it.
And did Lindsay Lois.
Oh, Lindsay Lohan did one.
Salacious gossip time.
Yeah.
Lindsay Lohan had it, right?
Because she showed up at a premiere of something
and people were like, whoa.
What the fuck?
Did she step out of a time portal, they said?
Yeah, sometimes it's done wrong,
like whatever Bradley Cooper did,
or the guy from Maroon 5.
Adam Levine.
Adam Levine.
And Adam Driver.
Wow.
Yeah.
Anyway, here's some trumers.
Adam driving to the plastic surgeon.
I don't think you need to.
Don't do it, Adam Driver.
Don't do it even though it's in your name.
Leave that big beautiful face.
Even though, based on your ID,
which I've seen in that selfie.
photo. Your name is Adam Driver to the plastic surgeon's office. That's your full legal name.
Adam Driver already figured out his head. He grew his hair over his ears. He figured it out a decade
ago. That's right. You don't need. That's all you should have done, Bradley Cooper. It's all you
should have done. He looks fine. I don't know. I think his face has settled Bradley Cooper's right?
I think so too. We're going to talk about him and admit it. I'll just do it out. But it's crazy
because people come up to me and go, you, you're like that. His face is normal. His face is normal. He
looks so normal. Good.
story. People come up.
Yeah, people come up.
Well, speaking of, this one's why Nexus point news,
Bradley Cooper will apparently take over the lead role
in the G.I. Joe film adaptation.
Chris Hemsworth was going to be it, and he stepped away.
It's probably Duke. Duke. Duke. Duke.
Duke. I can see Bradley Cooper as a Duke.
He was American sniper, a notoriously bad man.
Yeah, that's true.
And he was also face.
He was face. Yeah, that's true, yeah.
And now. How ironic.
Now. Wow.
And now, Mason.
Go on.
And now.
Yes.
Wow.
She's called it New Face.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
He should be the, you know, there's always the novelty, like Gio Joe characters.
He should be baseball mitt.
You know?
Why?
I don't know.
Because of his.
His leathery output?
Yeah.
He's leathery output.
Also, let me just say, people should do whatever they want to their face.
I agree.
If you're happy, you can go for it.
Agreed.
You just chisel away your head.
I like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know?
I mean, you know, obviously.
He's just setting it up for when I do it.
do it.
We're setting up from when we
when we decide to do some live shows in Turkey
and we just
come back with shades.
We show up bloody,
just bloodied scalps.
Oh, you got my Instagram feed, I see.
You better look at it.
Hey, everyone, great to be here.
We're normal.
We look normal.
We look normal.
We're on the podcast.
Oh, so many people came up to us,
said we look normal.
Danny McBride,
who we mentioned is writing this movie.
He's going to,
to direct it now as well.
Good for him.
It's his feature debut.
He's a big G.I.
Joe fan.
Aren't we all?
Yes.
I love rooms.
No.
Empty rooms.
Yeah,
I love empty rooms at the end of Transformers movies.
He beat out Max Landis's pitch.
And it's set in that we talked about it last week.
These pitch just said, I'm not Max Landis.
Yeah.
And they went, well, that's true.
I didn't make bright.
But it's a small town.
It's a town that the G.
Springfield.
Yeah, but it's a hydra town.
Cobra town.
Sorry.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow. Wow, James.
Sorry, a different type of snake creature.
Hand over your nerd card and your other forms of identification.
Hand them over.
For a selfie.
Yep.
Yep, hand him over.
And this one's a truma, the rap.
This is a true rumor is what I say.
Yes, his name, I'm terrible of pronouncing it.
It's Shola Man.
He plays Blue Beetle.
He's a karate kid.
The new karate kid.
We learned it earlier.
Hang on, we're going to do it.
We're going to do it right.
My accent can't do it.
Sholo, Mariduania.
Yeah, there we go.
There we go.
Who I think is great.
And so he played Blue Beetle in the Blue Beetle movie from a few years ago, which is also
technically the first DCU movie.
Oh, okay, yeah.
And also, we know this now because his character is returning in Man of Tomorrow.
His character and the actor or just the character?
Sorry, both.
Okay.
Yes, so he's returning.
Okay, good.
That's fine.
That is great.
That is good.
That movie.
We can finally figure out what happened to Ted Cord.
What did happen to Ted Cord?
Who's going to play him as a Jason Bateman?
He might be on Salvation, Planet Salvation.
Maybe that's where he's broadcasting from.
That's where he went from, maybe.
Jason Bateman?
Jason Batten.
Tadalasu, whatever his name is, he could do it.
Because remember there's a vague picture of who is this guy.
And whatever.
So, yeah.
I mean, pretty busy cast, people are also saying for Man of Tomorrow.
And I guess a similar thing was said of Superman, but I think it's just putting, like, a lot of movies have a lot of people in them.
That's so true, isn't it?
And all of these ones are comic book.
And I think you're forgetting a lot of people behind the.
camera as well. Oh yeah. The viewers, that's us. We're looking. We're looking. We're looking and
watching. And we deserve some credit finally. I think so. And I'm sick of this. I don't want,
I don't just want a novelty popcorn bucket. No, that I have to pay for. I want cash.
Yeah, cold hard cash. That's right. Yeah. Anyway, this movie might not be good, but I like
Superman. Yeah. And I hope Man of Tomorrow, which isn't a Superman movie. It's a, oh, it's not a strict
sequel. It's like, it's another thing apparently. Well, good luck convincing the general public.
And us. We don't believe you.
Uh, Mason.
Hello.
I've done some bad God of War news.
Yes.
Great.
Wait, no!
Oh, too late.
I've already started talking.
This is mate.
Can't stop me now.
I'm on a roll.
Look at me go.
I'm riffing.
TMZ, Mason.
Call me a delicious chicken palm because I'm on a roll.
You know?
Yeah, no.
Call me another different type of subway sandwich topping.
A meatballs.
Because I'm on a roll.
A meat balls.
A meat balls.
There we go.
I'm going to roll.
Yeah, and the meatball could roll.
Mason.
Ryan Hurst, who is
was playing,
was playing Kratos.
And he's Thor in Ragnarok, right?
His voice?
Yeah, sorry, yeah, I thought you meant the movie.
I'm like, and he's also in The Odyssey.
He's Tom Holland's mate, Mentor.
And you might be like, oh, that's a bit cliche.
He plays a character called Mentor.
Well, where do you think we got the word mentor from?
I actually don't know.
I invented it.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I saw the movie The Odyssey and I'm like, that's pretty good.
I'll tell you, I'll have that.
That's mine.
I'll invent that.
Yeah.
But yeah, he was the voice of Thor in God of War, Ragnarok.
and probably did the mocap.
Yeah.
So, yeah, he got cast as Kratos,
and there was that one image revealed.
He also can't cut his hair for religious reason,
so they've bald capped him.
Oh, wow.
And the reaction...
That's going to get increasingly large that head.
Yeah, well, also not necessarily
because he tore his bicep
while filming requiring surgery,
and it's like a six-month process
to get back to where you were.
Yeah, right.
So production of this were...
Just thinking about that.
Yeah.
If you've seen a video,
that's in my Instagram,
where you see a taste here,
like, pop off the bow.
Don't I like it.
You don't have to like it.
Oh, like a lamb shank.
Yeah, like a lamb shank.
Wow. Tender.
Oh.
Production was hoping to have him back on set for mid-August, but it's just not going to happen.
This is also, they've filmed four episodes of the show already.
Oh, okay.
And they're shooting Amazon, I think it's Amazon.
Yeah, shooting two seasons back to back, 20 episodes in total.
But because of this.
They could just call it one season.
Couldn't they just release one season?
So we're bringing back 20 episodes a season.
I think they're doing it.
We're the kings of TV now.
I think they're doing it because of the kid.
Oh, because he's a show.
He has to, because if he grows up too fast, they're going to kill him.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, so they can't have that.
Well, they can.
They're going to kill him and replace him with a TikTok star.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so they're going to have to recast this guy.
They're recasting him.
They're starting from scratch again.
So they're filming every, the previous episode.
All everything with him in it, I guess.
Wow, okay, yeah.
Yeah, that so.
Which would be most of it because he's the main character.
Yeah, absolutely.
So this is via deadline.
Yeah, he's being recast, which I don't know, I guess they'll bounce to like,
whoever was number two or three on the,
yeah, Kratos.
And were you two or was I two?
I can't remember.
Because we were two and three.
We were two and three.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or maybe we were just two together, one on top of each other.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah.
Okay.
Big Goro man.
Okay.
Well, you're going to have to be on the top because I've torn both my biceps.
Just two flapping dead arms.
We wish him well.
We do.
Yeah.
He's good in the Odyssey.
He's good in the Odyssey.
I think he's going to be...
I think he'll bounce back, especially after the Odyssey.
Because this is horrible.
Yeah.
I think he'll probably be under...
Undecredited for the Odyssey.
Yeah.
But he does a good job in anything.
Absolutely.
So I guess we'll see how this goes.
But it's it, I also, and I don't know this, but the fact that they got this far into it.
Yeah.
And they're starting from scratch.
I don't know, maybe they weren't happy with him for other reasons.
Right.
This is an excuse.
I don't know that.
But I don't know.
It just seems crazy to me to go, like going back to square one is cheaper than waiting six months.
Yeah.
But I guess it is.
Or they.
They've promised, you know, maybe contracts have been signed and they promised to release it on a certain day or whatever.
And so they just have to.
Also, he's like 50.
So he knows how this recovery is even going to go.
But also, I don't know.
Once he's 52, they can't, you know, they can't use that anymore.
Hi, I'm Kratos.
I'm 52.
I'm Kratos.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So I don't know, because like they obviously couldn't shoot around it or I don't know.
They couldn't do that thing where you put your arms by your side and somebody puts their, they're behind you and they put their arms under your underarms.
and they go, look at me.
Whoa, I'm eating spaghetti.
Yeah.
And it's all, you don't even in one arm.
Exactly, yeah.
You don't even do both.
Because he only needs to swing that axe, you know.
Exactly, yeah.
See where it's out.
It's good, Mason.
Anyway, maybe he will show up later as Thor or whatever.
Maybe.
Maybe.
You can play another character in this now, but I guess we'll see.
If anything, his options are wide open now.
That's right.
And good for him.
And he doesn't have to wear the stupid white makeup.
That's the ashes of his dead family, Mason.
That's disrespect for what you said.
Yeah, it's stupid makeup.
Sorry, stupid.
dead ashes from his stupid dead family.
He's not even Greek.
Probably, I don't know.
Wow.
Probably.
Wow.
I don't know.
I just think people,
everybody should be Greek.
I think that's important to me.
I think that's important to me.
Trailers of Hoy Mason.
And also,
yeah, and also delays but not dismayed.
Whoa.
Remember this segment?
Sort of.
Where things are delayed, but don't worry about it.
Don't dismay.
Don't dismay.
Don't dismay.
Because things will turn around.
So, uh, the Lord of the Rings, you're fan?
I guess.
Yep.
The Hunt for Gollum.
You're a fan?
No.
You don't know that
There's a start of production video
I know
Yes
Start a production video
And rumors are swirling about it
Conspiracies are brewing
About this video
According to you
Well I
Okay
So it's a tinfoil hat over there
No it's not a tinfoil hat
Mr turkey tinfoil hat
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Goda turkey tinfoil
Put it some tinfoil
It's a fun gag
I guess
Because they're like
Oh we're starting production
And Andy Circus
Walks in
In his Gullum rig
Yes
The only clothes he owns
And they're like
Who's first?
Who's first up?
Who's first to film in this grey room?
And they're like, you are, Mr. Andy Circus.
And he goes, yes, I am.
And then he gets, he gets put, he sits on his mark and he goes down.
I'm going.
He makes the little thing.
And he goes, action.
And we all have a fun time.
And they clap at the clapper board.
It's good.
But you were like, look at this.
Look at this.
He goes to sit down for one direction.
The point of the camera.
And they switch to the opposite direction.
But there's no camera there.
There's no camera there.
So they must have, this is been edited, he said.
He said, this is been edited.
No, it's not that it was edited.
You didn't just be edited.
It's made to look like it's in one take and it's not.
Which is fine.
It's fine.
That's just one of the techniques he's going to employ as director of The Hunt for Gollum.
Yeah, well, a lot of people, they don't have a lot of faith in this movie because his last movie was Animal Farm.
Well, that was Venom too.
Yep.
I didn't see Animal Farm.
No, but I didn't.
I can't speak to it.
But if I could, I don't think it would be positive.
But, you know, he second unit directed on The Hobbit.
Oh, yes.
Wait, no.
And I like him.
Yeah, me too.
I would love this to be good.
Me too, maybe it will be.
I mean, this is his, you know, maybe he's doing a venom because, you know, there's the paycheck for that.
And then this is coming back to his passion project.
Venom 2 was all right for a venom.
It's probably, is it one of the best venom movies?
I think it's maybe the second best venom movie.
It might be right.
After Venom one.
I'm just thinking about.
It's a perfect, James, it's a perfect logarithmic line scale.
Oh, interesting.
Exponential line scale.
The first one's pretty good and then they get worse.
I like his Alfred.
Yes, me too.
And his claw.
And his claw.
Yeah.
Well, he was.
He exploded, I think.
But also, I think I'm the only one who liked this.
I liked his Jungle Book movie.
Oh.
Moogli.
Wow.
Did you know that's short for motion capture glee?
I didn't know that.
His full name's Moogli.
Capture League Jungle Book.
Oh.
It's on his ID.
Is it?
Ask me how I know.
You took a selfie with it?
Yeah, that's right.
This is that December 17th of next year.
It's a quick turnaround, I guess.
Yeah, but it's just all flapping around.
It was talking about AI.
Yeah, it's just flapping around.
Just flipping around.
And then you get the boffins to fix it up, you know?
Yeah, yeah, fix this.
Did you see also they looked like they used some external stuff?
Hard drives.
Well, no, you know, they saw the, they're filming outside.
Oh, yeah.
But some of that looks comp in the background or whatever.
Wow, wow, editing.
Conspiracy theories.
I mean, I would love it if there were some real locations in this.
That would be great, wouldn't it?
Some real stuff.
Yeah.
They're also using AI to DH people.
Okay.
I don't know what that even means, though.
If it's AI, what does that?
What does that mean?
I don't know.
I mean, at this point, everybody's lumping in AI together either for good or real.
They're like, okay, well, you know, because there's been AI that isn't generative AI
that isn't stealing other people's ideas.
It's just an algorithm that does something.
Yeah.
So, you know.
So, George Lucas, I don't.
I don't know if he's, this isn't as part of the news, but George Lucas this week was like,
oh, I quite like AI or whatever.
He was like, it's a new thing and we've got to embrace a new thing.
Great, George.
Come back and do a Star Wars entirely a generative AI built.
You don't have to.
It's all on YouTube.
Pay your own money to do it.
Which is not much.
No, you can do it in five minutes and 50 bucks.
It's basically free.
Basically free.
It's got to burn down a rainforest and drink an entire river.
Really good.
That's my Friday night sorted.
Oh, what?
Glug, glug.
Drinking a river.
Yep.
And burning down a rainforest?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
And you do that on Friday night.
Every Friday, light clockwork.
Me and the boys.
Okay, so I guess that's less weird
that it's not just you.
No, but then I'm like it, what are you blokes having?
You know?
After you've drugged the river.
I've drunk the river and burn down the rainforest.
What are you black seven?
You're like that frog story from the dream time.
The frog that drank all the water and all the animals are like,
is this guy fucking serious?
Yeah.
You remember that story?
Yeah, I do remember that.
Yeah.
And then he vomits all the water up.
Yeah.
And that's how we got the billabongs or whatever.
That's right.
And that's my Friday night.
Every Friday.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Yes.
It's almost like you don't listen to my cool stories about what I get up to on Friday.
It's not that I don't listen.
It's just that it seems unbelievable.
That's all.
Well, that's my life, baby.
You can do other things.
You go to a movie.
Well, I have.
Yeah, you have.
Speaking of, the trailer for Digger.
Yes.
Which is an awful.
Tom Cruise doing an awful thing with an awful cat puppet.
Correct, yes.
So much of this is awful.
This is very Dr. Strange love.
Yes, absolutely.
And very, it's not Yorgas Lanthamos, but it's that guy.
Inoritu.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's got that weird washed out vibe.
Yeah, interesting cast.
I don't know what's going on with this.
No.
So he's caused some sort of disaster or he's on the verge of environment.
The world's on the verge of some sort of collapse and it's probably his fault.
And he's going to get out there with a big spade and sort it.
He's going to do it because he did it and he's got a weird cat and he's doing some Les Grossman as well.
A little bit of that.
A little bit of Tropic Thunder.
It's time for Tom Cruise to do a weird one.
Agreed.
He's done a weird one in a while.
That's great.
I mean, he's always doing a weird one.
That's right.
But this is on film.
People have captured it intentionally.
That's right.
Intentionally.
So, yeah, this is out October 2nd.
I hate that cat.
Absolutely.
Awful, disgusting cat.
Yeah.
I hate also that it's very obviously not a real cat.
And I hate that about it too.
Yeah.
But I am really looking forward to this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Will it be good?
Who knows?
Probably.
Might be a mess.
Yeah.
I mean, at least it's interesting.
That's what I.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
It's interesting and it's not our money.
So let's go.
Exactly.
They're paying us from behind the camera.
That's right.
Exactly.
Apparently, which is a new thing.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
It's AI.
And we've course got a first look at,
well, I mean, not the first look at, oh, no, it is.
Yeah.
The first look at the Batman from the Batman part two.
I mean, it was a bit.
There was one second of the Batmobile or something.
But that wasn't Batman himself.
No, this is Batman himself, the real man.
This is a camera test.
Turning slow slowly.
There's fire probably.
I'll be honest, I couldn't really tell that it was different from the previous.
Slightly bigger is Batman.
It's true, yeah.
Confirmed by director Matt Reeves.
And this is where the delays but not dismayes comes in.
Oh, yes.
This was dated for February.
No, sorry, this was dated for Occup.
October of next year.
Okay.
But it's now February of 2028.
2028.
That means there's going to be six years between the first one and the second one.
Wow.
I hate that.
Yes.
Rob Pat will be 42 when this comes out.
Yuck, too old.
Which will be nearly the same age as Ben Affleck was when he was old Batman.
Old Batman.
Old Batman.
Old young Batman.
Yes.
First year on the job, Batman.
You know what is in?
Yeah, exactly.
You know what's interesting though?
What's that?
Because it was originally dated for October 3rd.
2025 and then October 2nd, 2026.
That's soon.
Then they pushed it to October of 27 and then they pushed it to defend.
They thought we wouldn't notice as well.
They just changed the year and they were like, no, they won't notice.
They'll just go off.
It took me a second to kind of get these dates kind of down.
2028's forever away, you know, a go and away.
I don't know what time is.
What are you, Doc Brown?
Maybe.
Yeah.
Maybe.
So, uh.
Would Doc Brown do this?
Gluck, gluck.
I'm drinking a river.
Gluck, glick.
He might.
Yeah.
I don't think it would.
He's a loose unit.
Yeah.
So Colin Farrell also is going to be returning as a penguin,
Andy Circus as...
Gollum.
Geoffrey Wright as second Gollum.
Gollum in a dress, I think.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Gollum in a dress going, you-hoo, you-hoo!
And Gollum's like, ha ha ha ha ha ha, ha, et cetera, you know.
Scarlett Johansson is in it in a mystery role.
Mystery role.
Could be poison ivy.
Could be a regular woman.
Yeah, we don't know if this is regular woman universe,
like the Dark Night or if it is.
is elevated.
Sebastian Stan was rumored to be...
Harvey Dent.
Harvey Dent, Two-faced part.
But then also...
He looks like Victor Zax.
Yeah, because he's done the shape, head.
He's got the build and the shape, head.
And Brian Tyree Henry is now speculated to be Harvey Dent.
Yeah, okay.
All right, that works.
I like him.
Yeah, there was some speculation that he was going...
That Sebastian Sam was also going to be Harvey Dent's dad or something.
Okay.
Daddy Dent, Mr. Dent.
So you have a dad?
Like a famous...
I don't know.
No, but that's the whole...
It was somebody where I'm like, oh, it's the father of a...
own character. I'm like, does that guy get any play
in the comic books? I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I'm not sold on this universe as Batman.
Oh, Batman. No, I am. I like him. The Joker.
Yeah, right. I don't know if I like that. Also, that guy's sort of
reputation's taking a hit. What did he do?
I don't know. It was just, he was a bad boyfriend.
To one of the pop girlies. Oh, that's right. Wasn't that not true?
Salacious gossip time. Was that not true? I think it was true. I don't know.
I'll just check, I'll just check with the gals.
All right. No, it was true and he's a dog.
These are the gals you go out and drink rivers with?
Yep, that's right.
But what are they having?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
They're having rivettinis.
Yeah, okay, cool.
Oh, and you burned out of rainforest.
Absolutely, we did that.
I forgot about that part.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, look forward to this in two and a half years.
Two and a half years.
I don't want to be that old.
What the fuck?
Right?
I don't need that.
Do I need that in my life being that old?
Ugh.
Hello, welcome to the weekly pad and we're going to be.
You'll be talking about Batman Part 2.
I've turned my bicep, but not doing anything with muscles.
It just came off.
I turned over too hard at bed and I ripped all the muscles off my body.
I'm a dusty old Skellington man.
And now it's time for the Batman Part 2.
Our opinions are still relevant in 28.
What of us is dead.
Which one?
We'll never tell.
Yeah
I hope this ages
Exactly like that
I hope we sound worse
There people
People are calling back to it
Somebody saved the clip
And they're like
How do they sound better
In the clip
When they're pretending
To be old men
How are more of them alive
In that clip
Than they are now
All right
So should we move in a lot
James
Can you can you hear it
What
James?
It's oh no
It's the seductive
Sounds of the sirens
Oh is it
They're calling us
They're calling us, and they're trying to lure us with what we want the most.
Big movie.
It's time for big movie.
I love big movie.
Don't you want big movie?
That's all I want.
James, we want big movie.
James, I'm jumping overboard.
What?
This is a new part of the law.
We're recording.
We've always been recording on a boat.
We've always been recording on a boat.
All right, let's sploosh.
Let's swim to this big movie.
movie.
Yeah, that's sort of a big movie.
Big movie.
I don't know if you're aware of this Mason or anyone else is, but Tom Cruise has seen
the Odyssey and reportedly couldn't stop saying, this is so fucking sick while watching
the movie.
He's learned a new phrase.
He really has.
He's learned a new phrase from a young person, I think.
And he was testing it out.
So the story I heard was that he wanted to go to see it at the IMAX in a particular
place, but his plane was late.
So then they gave him a special midnight showing or something like that.
And he was like, and we got all the AMC employees.
to come in and watch it with me.
Come along.
Come along after your nine-hour shift,
probably nine, ten hours, you know,
cleaning up vomit and popcorn,
you know, vacuuming the popcorn
out of people's seats or whatever.
Absolutely.
Cleaning the toilets.
Anyway, stick around for another three to four hours with Tom Cruise.
They loved it apparently.
Yeah, I would have loved it too.
One of the employees said about this,
that he absolutely loved it.
He was clapping with us all through the third act.
He just kept uttering the phrase
that was so fucking sick the whole time.
He was sitting right behind us throwing little comments
and jokes our way, made an epic movie even better.
Wow.
Hell yeah.
That's how you make an epic movie even better.
Hell yeah, brother.
He loves movies.
I think, you know, normally that would...
He's an old man who loves movies.
He is, yeah.
Yeah, we could be him.
That would ruin, that would ruin my experience.
He'd be like, could you shush, please?
Shut up.
Could you shush?
Shut up.
A little bit.
We're all trying to...
I'm just trying to enjoy the movie, all right?
Yeah, big movie.
Big movie.
Anyway, speaking of the Odyssey...
Oh, yeah, we got out of that sticky situation, by the way.
Yeah, we did.
It turned out, like, the common misconception...
it turned out they were all just endangered seals.
So he ran them over with a snowplow.
So it's fine.
We got out of that one.
We did.
Yeah.
On a budget of $250 million,
the opening weekend for this is huge.
It's the third highest for a Christopher Nolan movie ever.
Okay.
Because that's behind, though, the dark night,
the dark night rises, obviously.
So it's going to make more 120 million plus in the US.
And in other international territories, about 137.
Again, could be more.
Congratulations to everybody who got an online.
iMac screening opening weekend a lot of them sold out last year i think i went to the imax melbourne
website and there was like tickets available for the day that i was going to see it like the thursday
and then i blinked and they were gone and i'm like that's fine that's your fault well there's
my local cinema has a 70mm print oh it must be nice well they don't they don't show it they
just it's just there and you can look at it that must be nice too you can look at the cans
you love looking at cans you better believe it mason yes what do you think the story was oh no this is
Big story.
Yeah.
Big story.
Long movie.
Based on a big myth or poem or whatever.
Five thousand-year-old poem, good one.
One million years old crap.
God, God.
Ugh, all right.
Written with a feather, yuck.
Oh, I'll just lick the tip of my feather and dip it in my ink pot and write an epic poem five thousand years ago.
Get over yourself.
Lame.
Get a job.
Get a job, Homer.
You're not even the most famous Homer anymore.
No.
Yeah, embarrassing for you.
Asshole.
Anyway, so Odysseus, he went to fight in the Trojan War.
But it's been 20 goddamn years, and he hasn't come back.
Yeah.
And he left his wife behind Penelope.
And she's had a son.
His son, he's grown up.
It's a big week for people who've seen a lot of Greek names written down and never said them aloud.
Oh, yeah.
So it's...
Mentor.
Telemachus.
Yes.
His son Telemachus is there
And he's like, where's me, dad?
We can just call him by the actor's names
Yeah, that's true, and we will
Yeah
Anyway, Matt Damon's been away for 20 years
He often is in movies
That's true, yeah
Also, the Odyssey is 2,800-ish years old
Yeah, not 5,000
Just so you know
I knew that, I didn't even have to Google it just now
Alright
Yeah, sorry, go on
Anyway, but he's been away
And in the meantime, all these disgusting men
Have shown up in Penelope's court
And they're all
These leathery twats.
Just oily, disgusting men, these freaks.
Just be in there and they want Penelope's hand in marriage
because they can be the king of Greece.
This area of Greece.
Yeah, they'll do a 20-year-hang, just to say.
20-hang, they're like, all right, one of us is going to become the king of Greece or whatever.
Eventually.
And in the meantime, Matt Damon's like, what's he even doing?
He's off somewhere and he's like, I better remember my memories.
To remember how A. Dun got here.
Mm-hmm.
And he does.
Yeah.
But then in the meantime, Telemachus is like,
I'm going to find me, Dad.
Mm-hmm.
I'm going to find me, dad.
I'm sick of these men.
Mm-hmm.
I'm sick of men.
I'm a boy, and I'm sick of men.
That's the last time I'll be a boy.
Mm-hmm.
I won't be a boy anymore.
I'll be a man.
I'll take a big voyage on the sea and I'll be a man.
Not that big compared to some of the other voyages.
Yeah.
That's all I'm saying.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Anyway, then then he has to, everybody,
Everyone's on a big odyssey, you know what I agree.
And we remember Matt Damon's memories.
With him.
With him, he's there.
Non-linearly.
Non-linearly, as is the Christopher Nolan tradition.
The Chris Triddish.
I think there's a lot of comparisons that can be made between this and Oppenheimer.
For one, a guy doing a bad thing and then coming to terms with it.
Sure, okay.
Yeah.
Coming home and stuff.
Can you ever come home after you've dropped a nuclear bomb?
Easily.
Yes.
I did it.
Knock, knock.
Hello.
Honey, I'm home.
Saturday morning.
I'm back, at a big Friday, as you know, added a little extra spice to it.
Absolutely.
You would have.
I could see how you would do that.
Also, I felt like, like Oppenheim.
Went to the ATM, got out $300, bought a thermonuclear bomb.
Did you?
Dropped it, you know?
It's crazy.
And the lads were like, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys.
You know?
Yeah, I know.
So the first like 30 minutes of Oppenheimer off is quite rapid.
Yeah.
It's like, this is the world.
Get you up a speed.
and this is similar.
Nolan has to do,
Nolan does his building blocks.
He builds the world out for a bit,
for a long time.
Yep.
And then we get in.
Just throws a bunch of names and places
and settings and that,
that all kind of falls into place.
Yeah.
What do you think in this movie?
I thought it was great.
I thought it was great also.
I mean,
everybody loves it.
Yeah.
Big surprise.
Maybe we're being,
maybe we're being fooled
by the big all-star cast.
Maybe.
We're being fooled by the,
the glow of the Christopher Nolan
and on the marquee.
Cinema camera.
Cinema camera arm.
The big IMAX screen.
So, yeah, I caught this in D-Box.
Oh, well, right.
Which is a regular-sized screen, I'll have you know.
Wow.
Yeah.
Christopher Nolan would call that disgusting box.
Yeah, you should.
A dick gimmick.
Do you think he gets...
I turned off the rattling chair also.
So I just paid extra.
Sometimes you can't fully turn off the rattling chair.
It's like, it's like push the button down
until it's off and you're like, okay,
and then a big action sequence happens.
It's like, whoa, it's still on for.
some reason.
Throw you to the floor.
Yeah.
Do you think Christopher Nolan gets emailed in on when the D-Box is going to
debox you in the D-box cinema?
I don't think he's got anything to do with the D-Box.
I think he might.
You reckon?
I think if we speak to him, which we won't.
We'd ask him.
We should ask him.
What do you think of disgusting?
It's probably tied into sound and music cues as well.
Oh, okay, right.
If I'm guessing, I have no idea.
Yeah.
Or maybe it's just random.
We've never picked up on it.
Yeah.
No one ever switches it on.
No, it's bad.
I don't like it.
Yeah, look, I liked it a lot.
Again, I've never read the epic poem.
No.
I've never seen any of the previous adaptations.
No, there's one in like 54.
There was like a telemovie in the 90s.
Oh, brother, where art, that was not really the Odyssey.
It's just a guy going somewhere and then coming back and then he writes a little song.
Okay.
But a lot of people like, well, that's the Odyssey.
It's not really.
It's kind of the Odyssey.
By the way you've described it.
But also, like, having also not read or seen any of the adaptations, you've definitely seen a bunch of this in literally everything that's ever been written or.
one of the fundamental texts, I guess,
of the hero's journey kind of thing.
Exactly.
It's like when Luke Scarlett could blow up the Death Star
and then came home and went, that was pretty sick actually.
That's right.
What I did was cool and you all agree.
And that's Friday night, he said.
Yep.
And look, there's also my understanding is there's a lot of different
there's a lot of different translations of the Odyssey.
Yeah, there's a 2017 one as the, was a popular most...
Yeah.
And one is in rhyming, is a rhyming scheme,
but most of them are just...
Yeah.
story.
Yeah.
You know, and this one is the very modern one.
It's like, here's a story about my dad.
He's...
Here's a story about my dad.
He's 6'7.
My dad Odysseus, he's so 6'7 for real.
Yeah.
And that's no cap, except the cap he has with a big broom on it.
That's the only cap I'm talking about.
He's got a big broomed cap.
Broomed cap.
You know what this did remind me of?
Yes.
Though in a much larger scale, the green night.
Oh, yeah, of course.
It's got that kind of, that mythic kind of energy and that kind of realistic, grubby,
magical universe where everything's awful.
So this also, the opening title card of this says this is a world of apparent magic.
Yeah.
Which I want to talk about that.
A parent.
Apparent magic.
Saw a lot of weird shit happen.
Well, maybe it did.
Maybe everybody was on big drugs though.
Maybe they're up.
Maybe, you don't know.
Yeah.
It's a loud movie also.
I've heard people complain of the sound in this where like you can't understand the dialogue.
Oh, I didn't have that problem.
I didn't have that at all.
Which I definitely have had in previous.
It's very loud.
Yeah.
what my screening was.
Previous Nolan movies,
Tenet,
especially,
I've seen that multiple times
at home with subtitles on
because I'm like,
I really want to drill down
to this.
I still don't know what's happening.
I see,
I've only seen it the once.
I should probably revisit,
but does your opinion on that changed
since you first saw it?
Yes.
Okay.
It's better,
I think.
Yeah,
right, cool.
I really like the pairing
of Matt Damon
and Himesh Patel
as he's second in command.
Oh, yeah,
those two together.
Yeah, I'm well,
Himmish Patel is becoming
one of those guys where I'm like, oh, it's good to see this guy
in a movie. Yeah, he is
not in the promotional material, I think, or not
really. But he's in this movie, like,
more than most
people. I took a screenshot of the Wikipedia page
for this, because I was concerned somebody would delete
this. It says, in the cast list,
it says, Hamesh Battel as
Eurilicus, Odysseus
is second in command and incompetent
brother-in-law. Wow. Yeah, that's what I'm
saying. I thought he was mostly quite competent. But then
I guess you make one mistake, don't you? You make one
pig-related mistake and everybody thinks you're an idiot for the rest of the movie.
Yeah, other people are making mistakes, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, this is, you know, this is largely about the mistakes of men and consequences.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah.
So, you know, sometimes you do a pig thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Hathaway's great.
Agreed.
Uh, standing around, waiting for Matt Damon to come back.
What's he doing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's he been up to?
Get off your duff, Matt Damon.
Yeah, exactly.
And as mentioned, Tom Holland and also Ryan Hurst, who was Kratos.
Yeah.
Uh, I like that.
pairing as well. Everyone's got a little friend.
Little friend, exactly. And then you've got Johnny Legs as well.
Yep.
Does a very mean thing right at the start of the movie, but then recovers and you're like,
yeah, he's good. He's all right. Yeah. This guy's all right. Yeah. It also opens on,
though we get it fleshed out more throughout the narrative, the story of Troy.
The movie Troy. It starts on the movie Troy 2004.
You guys remember this? I remember this in Landau Bloom, yeah.
But the way that they frame that element of the narrative about, what would it take to really get
20 or 30 men inside a wooden horse convincingly enough for then to have a dragged into
like the logistics alone of how you would do that and how many people you have to deceive
including some of your own people to make that happen while there's men just drowning and
shitting all over each other in a wooden horse for days on end anyway that was your friday
right on right exactly didn't have to buy around ah no it's your dog you dog you gave
the old trojan horse just went to the bathroom every day he didn't have to buy a round
every time I need.
It was my turn.
Yeah.
But I,
because I never really considered,
because Nolan was supposed to do Troy.
We talked about it recently,
when we covered that for Caravanagh,
a Garbage.
But his interpretation of this,
it really made me believe
the way that that movie didn't,
that how you could fall for this.
Right.
Because you're not going to,
this,
when it's half buried in the sand
and it's just going to get washed out
to the ocean,
I guess you would be less inclined
to think there's a dude in it.
Like,
it doesn't have big wheels on it.
Yeah, right.
And a big welcome side.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bring indoors, please.
Yeah.
There's none of that.
This horse is cold.
Please bring indoors.
Yeah.
So I really liked that element of it.
I think one thing that has been critical of this movie is that it doesn't.
Some people have said of the costuming, it doesn't look.
It's not detailed enough.
Okay.
I disagree with that for a number of reasons, but the idea of kind of, you know, people like,
well, this is what Greek armor looked like at the time.
and this is what Trojan armor looked like at the time
and this is just kind of a...
I thought, I mean, because the thing about Nolan
is he is all about the details.
One of my favorite movies for costuming
and just of Nolan movies
and just movies in general is Inception
because all the details of all the clothing is exactly right.
Like if a character's a cab driver or a CEO or whatever,
you could really zoom in on every aspect of that
and be like, this is exactly right.
So it doesn't make sense
me that he wouldn't do any research on this?
Yeah.
Like, this is a deliberate choice.
It's obviously intentional.
I think the idea is, I mean, you know, I've not seen this in any interviews or
anything like that, but I think the idea would be that this is the remembrance of that.
Right.
Yeah.
And it's like, well, you sort of remember.
Yeah, it's a myth.
It's a myth.
And that's, you sort of, you don't remember all the details.
It's like gods of Egypt.
Don't worry about it.
Don't even worry about it.
Don't even worry about it.
Make excuses for this one, but not that one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I'm like, I'm also like, I was.
never concerned about that. And no point was I
like, wow, these, again, these do not look
like costume party costumes.
They look like costumes from
this era. They all, you know, all the
characters from Greece look
a certain way and all the characters from other places
look a certain way. It all works.
And I'm not concentrating on that. I'm concentrating
on the story. Absolutely. And of course, you know,
there's a lot of being said about the casting of this,
etc. A lot of that has also been
silenced because it seems like it's probably going to
make a billion dollars unless it falls off a cliff.
I doubt it. But
I got to
see it again because I've got to finally get an IMAX.
Yeah.
And I get, well, first of all, I have to get an IMAX seat,
but I also have to get an IMAX seat in the pocket of where you see IMAX and it looks
good.
Yeah.
You know, right, the 10 seats in the middle.
Yeah, and look, I...
So it could be weeks or months.
Definitely.
It could, like, yeah, there is not a lot of Greek casting in this.
That is true.
But again, it is a myth.
And sure, gods of Egypt did a similar thing.
That's right.
But also, like, if you look at the people complaining, there's not a lot of, well, why is Matt
Damon in this?
He's not Greek.
Like, you can very...
You can tell the people that are being focused on.
Like, come on, man.
We know what this is.
We know John Bernthal says he's from New York.
So why would he?
Yeah, they're all got American accents, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a sort of, um, the American accent thing I understand because it's just like,
we just want them to all to talk the same.
Yes.
It's more, it's really weird and distracting.
I'm sure this is just a practicality thing.
It's weird and distracting when you see a historical epic and some people have British accents
and some people are attempting a Greek accent and some guys Russian and whatever.
And it's like, some people really stand in a weird way.
I think it's just like, it's an American movie.
Most of the actors that are American, just give an American accent.
People also just used to seeing this, but everyone's got a British accent.
Yeah.
Or they're speaking in like, you know, Marvel Comics, Thor, Shakespearean English or whatever.
And yeah, you could do like a apocalyptic style thing and do it in ancient Greek.
Yeah.
You know.
Sounds like work to me.
Sounds like too much work.
Christopher Nolan's not about that work.
No, absolutely.
Well, speaking to work, Mason, a lot is being said of this in the practical effects.
Oh, yes.
Not all of which is, which I do also want to talk about, but there are moments in this and we'll talk, I guess, more about some of them in spoilers.
Like some big set pieces using mostly in-camera practical effects, one being a giant Cyclops man.
Yeah, yeah.
With a crooked-ass nose.
Yeah.
So that's actually a...
Just the whole crooked-ass head.
I know.
He blink sideways.
Yeah.
So it's actually a...
That's a big puppet.
Yeah.
As you may have heard.
Yeah.
I've seen,
I saw a still from it.
Yeah, it's horrible,
like a horrifying sequence.
Yeah.
Should we talk more about this?
What do you think they do with that after it's done?
I don't know.
Like it is...
I'll have it.
Yeah, I guess, yeah.
Be in some prop.
Or they blow it up, I don't know.
Blow it up, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of this movie,
and this has also been said,
like, on Matt Damon on his epic quest to get him and his crew home
after the Battle of Troy,
which took 10 years to win.
Yeah.
They keep getting sidetracked and going to different,
mysterious, horrifying islands.
Sure, yeah.
And then there's a real back to the boat, boys,
moment.
And they all run screaming
Monty Python style.
Very much so.
Back to the boat.
Yeah.
Which I loved.
Yeah.
That was Matt.
Again, people are always like...
Back to the boat, boys.
Christopher Nolan's like, you know,
people's picture him as like this completely humorless dour kind of guy.
But I'm like, he's doing jokes.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
It's just search for the Holy Grail.
Sometimes it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
There's another moment where.
it's big men versus small men.
Gods of Egypt style, yes.
But the way they do it here, which I love,
they got seven feet tall men to play the big men.
Right.
And then they got five foot tall stunt doubles for everybody else.
To play the Greeks.
Yeah, so that's all apparently in camera.
And then you film from a funny angle.
Exactly.
Then it's back to the boat, boys.
That's right.
Obviously.
But there's also things in this.
I mean, there would also be,
there's wirework which would have had to be replaced
because there's people being thrown in that.
But there's a swirling vortex moment on the ocean,
which would have to be an obviously CGI.
Jet skis.
Yeah.
Well, they churned it up for jet skis to get the effect on the water,
but they have to then put in the vortex.
And that's also a moment where a monster is like yanking people off the boat.
Yeah.
And they're famous Greek yanker.
That's right.
And they're wired up.
Yeah.
But that monster is clearly a CGI added element.
Right, yeah.
And also like Christopher Nolan, he's not secret.
about using
CGI but people just take it as
oh he doesn't use it
but he always has and he is
if you look at interviews he does talk about
Yeah of course he uses it as a tool like everything else
Yeah
Who else can we talk about Robert Pattinson is suitably slimy
Oh my God he's so slimy very slimy
So slimy and slimy and twitchy as well
Which was good like when things aren't going his way
Says he on Wikipedia that he
He likened it to James Woods in casino
If you ever seen casino
He's the he's this
kind of slime ball who's
Sharon Stone is cheating on De Niro
with. It's good
good performance.
Elliot Page plays Sinon.
It doesn't get a lot of screen time.
I initially thought he was only
going to get, because he's right at the start.
Where we're seeing a little bit of
the Iliad, the Trojan horse bit.
And I'm like, oh, glorified cameo.
But there's a scene later on
where he gets a lot more
like a more of a meaty kind of dramatic
beat. And that character is
very clearly tied into Matt Damon's character
and also Robert Pattinson's character
and so that all comes full circle.
They're all good friends.
They're all good friends.
The depiction of hell in this I really liked also
and just said and then the idea that you run into people
that you know.
And then you'd be like back to the boat boys.
Make the boat.
Here we go.
I don't like this.
Back to the boat.
Back to the boat.
Yeah.
Why do we come to hell?
We were looking for directions or something?
I think so.
Feels like we're going the wrong way.
I don't know.
Yeah, I think we probably shouldn't have done this.
I think there's a lot of quotes about going
to hell and they say mostly don't do it.
Wait, what do they say?
Don't forget to take a trip to hell.
So there's also
Agamemnon.
Agamemnon, yes.
Who's played by...
Oh, should you even say?
Oh yeah, I guess it's a bit of a spoiler.
Yeah, say it in spoiler.
Really kind of Darth Vader-esque depiction
of that character.
There's a moment where the gates of Troy open
and you see him.
So it's interesting fact about that.
I don't think this is a spoiler,
but I saw an interview with Matt Damon
where he said, you know,
there's the moment.
where it's the, you know, the sacking of Troy and they have to, they have to invade Troy and they have to
get the gates open. Yeah. You know, they've gone in the, in the horse and they have to get the
gates open before the, all the soldiers are alerted and kill them. And Matt Damon was told,
we're just going to open the gates and cut. Yeah. And Nolan didn't tell him there were 500 extras
behind the gate, which is fun. I think that's really good. That's awesome. Yeah. Great sequence.
And his brother's also played by John Bernthel. Yeah, which is cool.
That's not a spoiler, because he's not wearing it.
Let me tell you something.
I got a beard and a shaved head.
Let me tell you something.
Leipidion Young go also in dual roles.
Let me tell you something.
I meant a lass.
I had to look it up.
I'm in a lot of Les.
I was killed by Eric Banner in the movie, but not in this movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, LePitton and Yonge's dual roles, Helen of Troy and Helen of Troy's sister.
Yeah.
Helen of not Troy.
That's right.
Yeah.
Again, not a huge role.
Yeah.
And obviously not a big deal.
Yeah.
Also, you know, but one of the things people are upset about, who's really, who's really,
good and people are talking about this and apparently it's a sequence where it's the only sequence
other than Heath Ledger in filming the Dark Night where the crew clapped with Samantha Morton.
Love her in this, tremendous in this, yeah.
Holy crap.
Yeah, I remember when I watched the scene, which again is like this sort of vignette, this,
it's a real.
And I knew this happened.
Yeah, and it's, then it becomes a, then it becomes a let's get back to the boat boys.
But yeah, but yeah, when I, that scene happens and I'm like, people are going to be talking about
this scene.
She's great in this.
Unbelievable.
People, there's a movie.
And that's practical as well that moment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's in, she's Minority Report.
She's in John Carter.
Oh, is she?
Yeah, I think so.
I don't remember.
Unless something.
Unless one of the red people or one of the forearm people.
She might be one of those people.
She's in a movie called Morven Caller.
She plays Morven Caller.
Yeah.
About a woman whose boyfriend kills himself and has left a,
like he's written a book.
And then she's just,
she's just this bizarre psychopath who just covers up his death and then just goes on holiday.
And like attempts to get the book published as her own work.
Oh, great.
Yeah.
Cool and good movie.
It's a cool and good movie.
Yeah,
sounds cool and good.
She did a movie in 2002 with Patty Constantine,
called In America.
Oh,
I recommend people look up.
That's a great movie.
But yeah, well, I've said this before and I stand.
buy it, Nolan is good at casting people.
Oh my God.
Like he's, I've talked about like Sarah Halley Finn who casts all the Marvel stuff.
Yep.
Has never missed.
It's same with, it's the same with Nolan and I assume his casting director who I don't
know the name of.
I should look them up.
No, you're busy, aren't you?
It's probably Nolan personally.
Yeah, he's probably doing himself.
You've always, whenever you see somebody go.
He's calling people on their home phone on his home phone.
It's exactly right.
Hello? And if they pick up, they get the role.
If they have a home phone, they get the role.
sitting at home and just the glass in their front window
smashes in and there's a tin can on a string.
And somebody yells,
call from Christopher Nolan,
and then you have to pull on it till it's really tall.
You've got to make it taught.
Hello, it's Christopher Nolan.
Hello.
Do you want to be in my movie?
Do you want to be in big movie?
Yeah, people want to be in big movie.
Yeah, but she's great.
Terrific.
Ridiculous.
Is she also in Peaky Blind is at some point?
I don't know about that.
I don't know if she is.
No.
But again, just the idea,
I'm sure people are like, well, this isn't
Cersie or whatever, but it's like, she does such a good job.
This is a, yeah, terrific.
Also, like, a lot of people, you know, the reason they do certain things in this,
she's not in Picky Blinders, you know, characters who are evil or shades of or entirely
good, which I guess there isn't really in this.
The motivations are very clear, and it's, and you understand where they're coming from.
Like, even Robert Pattinson, who's like a slimy, underhanded character, like, you get why
he is the way he is, you know?
He's a coward.
That's just, yeah.
Samantha Morton Foster Child.
Oh, there you go.
Okay.
Yeah, and she got hit on the head by a piece of 17th century plaster in 2006.
She had to learn a walk again.
Well, that's not fun.
I don't think that's fun at all, but good for her getting out there.
Yeah, you know?
I hope there's more, more roles for her in the future and more, more freaking awards and stuff.
You know?
Yeah, more awards and stuff.
Yeah.
Is Dadae's in this for a minute?
Yes, and Daya.
Charlie's Daron is in it for a little bit.
A little bit?
Yeah.
Should we do some spoilers?
Yes, but I'm going to say best movie ever.
I mean, I would...
I had a hell of a time.
I can imagine you might...
If you get into this and you do not care for Nolan's like, again, setting the table for a long time and kind of...
You're in this for nearly three hours.
Only because that is the limit of an IMAX reel.
Totally.
Otherwise, he would have made it longer.
You know what?
I spend a lot of this...
Some of this movie, especially towards the end, I'm like, well, I could wrap it up here.
interesting, he hasn't wrapped it up here.
And then I'm like, oh no, this was worth.
This was worth the extra length.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I know, I just, I love the way it all kind of came together.
You know, because often his movies, they're like an intricate kind of puzzle.
Yeah.
And this is more.
This was a little bit puzzling.
Yeah, it was.
But I think it's also more like thematically.
You know about coming home and generational trauma, I guess.
And who's your dad?
Yeah.
Who's your dad?
Grief regret.
Being a bad bloke.
Yeah.
Coming to terms with.
And I think some people would be like, well,
in the original he was a real happy murder or whatever
he loved doing murders or whatever. Wasn't he just a liar?
Yeah, probably. Because none
of this happened. But I...
The pig thing happened though, didn't it?
Yeah, the pig thing happened. Okay, cool. But again,
it's an adaptation and it's not, if you want the
original, you've got the original. Yeah, and you've got...
What do you? What do you do it? Dork.
Yeah, he's doork. Do a community theatre version,
Dork. Charge five bucks, dork. Support your local
Town Hall and Dorks.
But it's an adaptation and it's, you know, it's what Nolan wanted to do.
So, you know, you don't have to like it.
No.
But I happen to lump it.
You've got to lump it if you don't like it, unfortunately, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, best movie ever.
Time for big spoiler time.
Yeah, it would be interesting to see, though, how this kind of shakes out in the next few years
because obviously there's the initial, a lot of people's going to be liking it.
And then there'll be the pushback.
Yeah.
And then we'll just kind of see where this kind of lands in a few years.
Like, even in his filmography, I think it's in his top, like,
three.
Oh, there you go.
Okay, all right.
It would be insomnia.
I was going to say you were going to say insomnia.
The one that is very good.
Yeah, and probably Dark Night Rises.
Yeah, Dark Night Rises.
Yeah.
So, look, I get a lot of Dark Night Rises vibe from this.
It's about a man who returns.
Yeah.
He goes away then he returns.
Well, he's talked about that as well.
Nolan's like, oh, I've done a lot of the Odyssey
just did movies prior to this.
Just by accident.
Yeah.
Just because of the nature of storytelling.
Ugh.
Ugh.
Mason's pantomime throwing a scarf over his shoulder.
Yes.
Spoilers.
And I bid you with you.
Yes.
I'm Christopher Nolan.
Spoilers.
Yeah.
Pigs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cersie transforms all the men into pigs.
Literally.
Yeah.
And like clearly using like puppetry and like animatronics and clay and just like mushing men's heads.
Yeah.
So one of the many one of the many let's explore this island.
Yeah.
Oh, we should have gone away boys.
We should have gone back to the ship.
Wait a minute.
This deer's a man, boys.
Yeah.
They arrive on this island.
This bird's a bird.
And there's all sorts of birds and lions and leopards and tigers and things.
Oddly just sitting around.
Just sitting around and they find Circe's little hut and she's and they're like, can we
have some food?
She's like, yes.
Dude, I got so much food.
Good.
Have some good food.
Yeah.
And then they're all, they're slurping it.
Yep.
Slurping the slop.
They're sloping that slop.
Yep.
And then.
It's probably a commentary on binging television.
Almost certainly it is.
Yes.
Turn you into a pig.
That's right.
Turn you to a pig mason.
Yeah.
And then she transforms them into pigs for being, you know, bad men.
Yeah.
Which they kind of are.
Yeah.
Like she's not wrong.
Because that's interesting because the decision she makes, which she tells Matt Damon, straight out, that like they are pigs.
I've just done.
I've just turned them into what they're actually are.
Yeah.
Because, you know, because he's obviously had terrible experiences in the past, you know.
With men.
Yeah, it kind of feels like a justifiable reason.
She saw the movie men.
Did she?
Yep.
Men.
She saw two and a half men.
Men.
Children of men.
Yep, she saw men in black four.
Men in black, what?
Yeah.
Oh, men in black in the national?
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Well, I'd forgive her.
Forgive her.
I love also with this and we get a bit of this and like,
obviously this is a throwback to a lot of Ray Harry House and stuff or whatever.
It's got that big epic kind of scale.
I thought it was interesting that when they go to Hades,
I was expecting skeletons to arise from the ground.
Nah, just men.
Just men.
Dirty men.
Typical dirty man.
Rubby, dirty men.
Who is the?
Oh, it's James Remar is the, he's the man on the ground.
Is that James Reimer?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I knew he was in this, I didn't realize that was James Reema.
Okay, cool.
I liked man on the ground.
Me too.
Drink this blood from a big upside down shield.
Yeah, what can we talk about in this, in this?
I enjoyed, you mentioned it before, Telemachus, Tom Holland, and mentor their visit to Menelaus.
Yes.
So, John Bernthal, I thought that was good.
It was just a...
Alan of Troy's there.
She was like, I didn't like any of this.
No, this sucks, actually.
But I liked it.
You know, the revelation there was like, and it's an interesting, because of the era in which they live, I thought, you know, it's interesting.
You never really know what's happened to anybody.
Anybody who leaves your life.
You just hear maybe.
Maybe they hear stories or they, you know, oh, I heard your father was this and, you know, ultimately, Telemachus hears that it's, he's over with John Berthel and he goes to visit and John Belton's like, oh, did you hear some stories?
I was in the horse.
Yeah, I don't know.
I wasn't...
After that, I was on a different boat.
Yeah, I don't know what happened there.
My brother Darth Vader got stabbed.
That's right.
But I like the idea that, you know, he's like, well, sorry, I couldn't tell you anything about where your dad is, but he's like, yeah, but you told me about him.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I thought that was an interesting.
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, yeah.
Agamemnon is Benny Safti.
Yeah.
Took me a second.
Yeah.
That's right.
And he'll always be agamemnon.
James, he'll always be Agamemnon until I build a bigger Agamemnon.
Are they working in that?
I'm going to push through that even though.
Yeah, they're working on that.
Yeah.
Yeah, the Russians are working on building a bigger Agamemnon.
Someone should do something.
Not me, but someone is.
No, somebody should do something.
You don't like it this as well.
The gods are clearly unfair.
Yeah.
As they always are in this era.
Or do they exist?
Because this is a land of apparent magic.
Yeah, because I guess everything that you see of Matt Damon's adventures and stories,
it's from his perspective.
Yep.
Or it's...
He's always eating those lotus flowers.
He's always eating lotus fowls.
But anything else that,
Anybody remembers who was there, like Troy, John Bernthol.
Yes.
There's no element of magic to that.
And again, the biggest reveal of the movie, I think.
Probably the Cyclops.
That is pretty big.
The big men also.
That was big.
Big man was a big reveal.
Big man was a big reveal.
Big wooden horse.
That was big.
But metaphorically the biggest reveal, I think, was that Athena, who we see,
Zendaya is playing Athena, who appears to Matt Damon and no one else
and sort of guides him along the way and, you know, asks him,
the heck he's doing and so on and so forth.
We learn at the end of the movie,
which is actually a flashback to the Trojan War,
that a woman who looks exactly like her,
who lived in the city of Troy,
was slaughtered by his men.
And he is therefore seeing Athena as that woman
and has been for 20 years.
And also like, I don't think this is the case,
but maybe that was Athena.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah.
Because there is also this thing of like gods are among us.
and that's why you let a beggar in.
Zeus's law.
Zeus's law.
I expected one of those guys to be like,
I'm Zeus's law.
No, I didn't.
But I liked also the fact that this world is coming apart.
Yes.
Because of the actions, it seems, of Matt Damon.
Yeah.
Like breaking that law.
Oh, that's the thing that I was going to say.
Yeah, so in the movie,
various characters keep hearing stories of the men from the sea.
They live in fear of the men of the sea.
who don't believe in laws or anything,
and they're going to come and destroy you because the society...
They won't even wipe their feet.
That's right.
The world is crumbling and blah, blah, blah.
They don't like your dog.
They don't exactly.
They don't like your dog.
But then we realize that, yeah, no, exactly.
Puppet-ass dog.
Stupid puppet-ass, Muppet-ass dog.
It was Jim Ensign.
Oh, Jim Enson.
Come pick up your Muppet-ass dog, you're the Muppet.
But those stories have circulated because, at least in part,
because Odysseus is men,
like all the truth,
they are the men from the sea.
They're the first people to...
And there is this reverberation of,
oh, this is the new rule?
The new rule is like you can just get in a horse.
You can just get in a horse
and then invade somebody's city
and kill all the women or whatever.
And so that has been passed around
and now suddenly all these,
this city of Ithaca is receiving stories
about these horrible men doing these horrible leads
and they're afraid of them, but it's them.
I mean, it's them and others.
I wouldn't be.
You'd just tough it out?
Yeah, I just get a sword.
Oh, hell yeah.
But also I think, and obviously...
But what if they had a bigger sword?
Oh, then I'd probably run away.
Yeah.
Back to the boat.
Back to the boat.
But it's also...
I'm sure people have made this comparison.
It does feel like we're living in a time where...
Oh, fuck, you just do whatever, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, it doesn't matter.
But ever...
Kill anybody do anything?
Every generation has to...
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, that's what Chris Nolan's telling us.
Yeah, no, I think it's just now and also...
And when this happened in the past.
Oh, yeah.
Just the two times.
Wow.
But that's the thing of like, it's like kicking a door open to that.
They should cut to modern, the modern world and somebody who looks exactly like Matt Damon,
reading the newspaper, even though it's 2026.
He's like, oh, wow.
This is just like that other time.
Society.
The newspaper reads society going to the dogs.
I'm not a reincarnation.
I just look like it, by the way.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
Oh, and the phone rings and it's Chris Nolan.
Hello?
And he says Matt Damon.
We have to make a movie.
And then the guy's like, I'm actually not Matt Damon.
I just look like that day.
Look a lot like it.
Like, look a lot like it.
This is like Oceans 12.
Yeah.
Where was Julia Roberts, but it wasn't.
Where in the, so does that mean we're in the ocean's universe?
Yes, Chris Nolan.
Oh.
The ocean's 12 universe.
Oh.
Yeah, Soderberg's not doing them anymore, Chris Nolan.
He's not.
I thought he was doing the new one.
Maybe, I don't know.
I'm not Matt David.
I'm not Matt Damon.
I get my news from the newspaper just like everybody in 2026, all right?
But yeah, so what I was going to say with Oppenheimer.
Yes.
Dropping a nuclear bomb kicked a fucking door open.
That you cannot close.
Correct.
You know, so it felt...
I could have closed it.
I would have said, all right, everybody.
Sort yourselves out.
But you didn't.
I wasn't around then.
Okay, we can do it now.
Yeah, I guess I could.
It's too open.
It's too far open now, though.
Yeah.
So that old bit of it.
But yeah, the gods being unfair also, again, if they're real or whatever.
But, you know, they put cows on an island and then they send starving men there,
which they know is going to happen.
Yeah.
And then be like, but don't.
Yeah.
What are you doing?
What are we doing?
I mean, that's classic gods, isn't it?
It is.
I mean, you know, classic God being like, don't it?
That fruit, it looks delicious though, doesn't it?
Did that snake tell you to do that?
No, that was the devil.
Yeah.
Who I created, by the way.
Yeah, that's me.
Yeah.
Not me, but, you know, I made it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The big men on the island.
I thought that was interesting.
There was a boy to start with?
I thought it was a girl.
I don't know.
Oh, I didn't know.
A young person.
Yeah, I thought it was interesting.
Apparently there's much more to that in the original palm, but we don't have all shut up.
Dude, I'm tired.
Start your community theatre version.
What really happened on the island of the big men?
The play.
Shut up.
Dorks.
But, yeah, I thought that was it.
What it reminded me of is that, because again, it's the land of a parent, it's a world
of apparent magic.
You know how what they talk about in the Lord of the Rings world?
There's Tom Bombadil who doesn't, he doesn't appear in the Lord of the Rings movies because
he's not really relevant to it.
But the idea of the character is that he just, he represents the other things.
things that are happening. He's a remnant of other things. Like, even though you're fighting this
war against evil and the whole world is at stake, there's just other stuff going on. This guy's
not concerned. I'm busy too. I felt like this was, that was representative. That was
this weird situation. They're like, we shouldn't have. So in the, this is unrelated to us
and we shouldn't be. The vibe I got was their aliens. How do you feel about that? I'll take that.
Yeah. Because they're like, because also when they go to the island, it's, it's, it's,
It's like there was a forest fire.
Yeah, it was like there was, I felt it was like there was, there'd been a forest fire or something like that.
But they're literally moving as well.
The trees are.
There's moments where you see them like.
I'm like spaceship landed.
That's what they are.
They're just big space men.
I think they're probably just big men.
Probably could just be big men.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it culminates in Matt Damon finally coming back.
Take your bloody time.
He didn't even want to come home, it turns out.
It was delaying the inevitable.
Yeah, right.
And then he has to kill 40 men.
That's right.
Tom Holland scuffles with one.
That's right.
Yes.
Upstairs.
Upstairs?
Well, he's dropping swords and shields down
and Robert Pattinson is yelling about it.
Just executing all those men.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because the, the,
Penelope, Queen Penelope, that's Anne Hathaway.
She says, okay, well, what I'll do is I'll,
whoever can complete this heroic task, this stunt.
It's a stunt.
I'll give you a big kiss.
I'll marry you, whoever can do it.
And it's string the bow of Odysseus
and shoot a arrow through a series of axes,
which was his party trick.
It was just a thing he did.
And people had fun with it.
Dude, he loved it.
But nobody can do it.
And then,
oily Robert Pattinson's like,
well, I'm not even going to try it because it's clearly...
This is dumb, actually.
This is dumb, actually, and I don't like it.
And then Odysseus shows up, and he's like,
I'm going to kill everybody.
Also, we didn't even mention this,
but all the boorish suitors, they show up years ago,
and they're sticking around,
and Tom Holland always wants to get rid of,
them but you can't if you because of Zeus's law you can't you can't refuse them and also
is also part of Zeus's law if he were to attack any of them they could they could kill him
they could kill him so he can't risk it and and so they're like okay well we can just do whatever
we want we can be we can be as big as jerks as we want yeah but at the end Matt Dam is like
you know what if I've learned anything for my 20 years abroad it's F that I'll do what I want
I'm an old man I'm going to kill all these men I'm going to born identity every single one
dogs and he does
he certainly does
yeah yeah great sequence
and then of course he you know
he has to pretty much go into exile
because he's like well I can't be king
because I broke Zeus's law 40 times
I killed 40 men all these people have families
and etc
also yeah because they're rich families
yeah so Tom Holland has to
become the king
oh I guess I'll just be the king
I guess I'll just be in the Spider-Man movies
and I'll be married to Zendaya
and I'll be the king
I got a little headband now
yeah that's right that means I'm the king
It's a special goal that only big special boys get.
I mean, men.
All right.
As he said, we talked about it last week, it was Tom Holland's last chance to play a boy.
Yes.
A boy of 20, early 20s.
Yes.
Yeah.
Where he's a man of 30s.
Wow.
Just 30, I believe.
Yeah.
Yeah, all in all, I had a really...
I had a really big movie.
I had a really big movie.
And I just, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
It was like really immersive.
Yep.
I just like that he's able to do this.
Agreed, yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Because it felt sometimes it was like, this is a movie for movies sake.
But I'm like, why not?
Why else?
Why else do you make movie?
Yeah.
And who else better to make big movie?
Yep.
Than Christopher Big Movies Nolan.
You know?
That's right.
If we, if we, he's not coming here for the tour for the, for the press junker
or like that.
But I'm like, if we ever speak to him, which we won't.
But if we could, we need to get him to say, hello, this is Christopher Nolan.
And it's time for.
big movie.
Do you reckon it didn't know?
I think he would do it.
All right.
Yeah.
Because normally we turn down interviews.
That I don't want to talk to us.
And we've turned so many down that they stop asking us.
Yeah.
But we'll do that one.
I would do that one.
Okay, cool.
But what would you say to Christopher Nolan?
That's the thing.
What would you say that it's not?
How did Batman get back to the city in the dark?
Nice.
Yeah.
Hang on a second, Chris Nolan.
Wait a second.
Yeah.
How did, but he was alive at the end?
Yeah.
But that bomb blew up.
Yeah, the bomb blew up.
So was he a ghost at the end?
Was Alfred only seeing him
Because it was her hallucinating
Was Joseph Gordon Leavitt when you make the next one
So he'll be the Batman
Or is he going to be Robin in your next Batman movie?
Oh Robin
What are you going to do with that?
It's weird because his name is Robin
But Batman had a sidekick in the comics called Robin
Is that a coincidence?
Christopher
Christopher Nolan
Christopher
Christopher!
Christopher come back
Don't you get on that boat
That's right
He's running back to the boat
He would too
He would wouldn't he yeah
Got some reviews here
Wait hang on let me
Who is
Christopher Holland in this movie.
Oh, which character?
Because he's lean out of the Capio Inception.
Yeah.
Because he's like the direct...
He's Robert Pattinson in Tenet.
Yep.
But he's not always.
I'm sure that's not true in most of the movies, but...
I guess he's Matt Damon.
He's going on a journey.
He's going on a journey.
He's Tom Holland.
He's...
He's...
He's shouldering the burden of cinema on his own.
That is Tom Holland, isn't he?
Yeah.
It's getting people getting bums in seats.
Well, Danive Villanue is making bomb after bob.
No.
Until he makes a bigger bomb.
Until he made Dune.
Yeah.
Incredible movies that nobody saw, which is not true anymore.
But, yeah, he's up, he's downstairs scrapping.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.
Christopher Nolan's Tom Holland.
I'm keeping film alive.
David should have said that while he's fighting people.
Just, I'm keeping film alive.
Can you just, I'm trying to...
I see it in D-Box, I guess, as long as you buy it a ticket.
Ah!
Here's some reviews from the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Group.
Terrifico.
Dubella Wood says...
Oh, yes.
I loved it.
Best ancient Greece portrayal I've seen in film.
Great mix of history and myth.
Really hope this movie performs well.
It deserves it.
Well, it is.
Corey says,
it's so much fun with this movie,
the way Christopher Nolan played with the realism
and the myth side of things
made the storytelling really compelling.
Most of the cast pool in amazing performances.
Tom Holland seemed a little bit lost in the cast
and gets a lapsed around him.
I don't think that's true.
I think this is one of his best performances, honestly.
You know what I would ask Christopher Nolan.
What do you mean?
I'd say apparent magic, elaborate on that.
Oh, yeah.
And then he would just talk for a long time.
Yeah.
You know?
Nice.
Yeah.
And then I would ask him, I would say the alien thing.
Yeah.
See what he thinks of it.
Yeah, but aliens, right?
Yeah, but aliens.
Come on, man.
They're big and they're all silver and that.
Yeah.
It's aliens, right?
Must have been.
Like the 50s or whatever.
Sci-fi.
You love sci-fi movies from the 50s or whatever.
Yeah.
You're sitting in front of the black and white TV with your little tinker toys, you idiot.
You dork.
You talk.
You talk-ass nerd.
Nicole says, you know how sometimes a movie is so serious an epic in scale that you almost find a cliche.
That's kind of what happened to me with this movie.
Like, I get that it's an epic tale, but there are a couple of points where I was like,
okay, really?
Especially in regard to the ending where Odysseus kicked everybody's butt so handily.
Or the moral tale of it, not going against Zeus's law, I felt a bit heavy-handed.
But if you turn your brain off, I do think it's a beautifully told tale done in a very sweeping way.
At the very least, it looks stunning.
The visual work is Chef's Kiss for sure.
I can't remember what parts of it were, but there were certainly moments in this movie where I'm like, that's kind of corny.
Yeah, for sure.
I can't remember what they were, but at a rewatch, I'll be like, oh, yeah.
The moment where Robert Pattinson
keep yelling out the names of the weapons
when they fell through.
Maybe that's also just funny.
I don't know.
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
Yeah, you just be like,
shields!
Shields!
Get the shields!
Boxing glove on a spring.
Get it.
Jason says,
from growing up watching
the Kevin Sorbo, Hercules,
did the Disney version,
though through Troy and 300.
This movie Scratch the Greek mythology,
itch-eyed long forgotten.
Oh, yes.
Great set pieces, performances,
and various scenes all play out
as long as needed
without lingering, best movie ever.
Very good.
Darrell says,
Best movie ever absolutely loved it. Some stellar performances, interstellar.
And some incredible sequences. Bloody fantastic. Can't wait to watch it again.
And Sarah says, I really loved it. There are a few moments where you could feel how long it was,
but they couldn't have made it short of the performances were all great.
I really love the creature design and the music slash sound design.
The Cyclops is really upsetting to look at in a good way.
And the Sushi transformation was rad.
Our cinema was really loud.
So there were moments where you could feel the storms in your chest.
It was great.
Cool.
Yeah.
Let us know also if you saw it in IMAX.
I'm curious to know.
If you were able to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Was it just bigger, taller brooms on the heads?
Mm, that's a great question.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
We'll move to the next segment of the show.
Terrifico.
What is it?
It's what we read.
Yep.
What we're going to read?
I'm doing nothing.
I'm doing it.
Mm-hmm.
What are we reading today?
All right.
All right.
I just want to mention before we talk about things we've been watching reading or doing.
This week's bonus thing at big sandwich.com or Patreon.com or Patreon.
movies or YouTube membership.
It's an episode of We Got,
we got this covered.
It's a video that Maisie put together
where one of the things we do is relive
the original Star Wars trilogy from a clickbait article.
Oh, that's right.
Where there's an interesting twist on that.
Sure is.
I had a good time.
Baffling.
And among other things that we look into,
nonsense.
Yeah.
But those videos are great.
Mays have been doing a really good job on the edits.
I agree.
Again, available those places.
It's linked below and there's so much other stuff.
Stuff.
That you can do like last week, we did a Highlander commentary.
over the movie, Highlander.
Can I, I, I just wanted to point out.
What do I have to do?
No, you don't have to do anything.
Thank you.
So, we recorded that many weeks ago.
Yeah.
And it's, the, the, um, the fun, the fun, uh, bit about the, the Star Wars article.
Yeah.
From, it was from USA Today.com.
And I just cannot be clear enough weeks later.
The same.
The same thing is happening on the website.
This is a, I assume a national or international news organization and they haven't.
Maybe if you try to make it.
Maybe to be like, well, if you're Australian, for American.
Maybe.
If you're doing American stuff.
Oh.
Are you doing American stuff?
I'm doing Love American style.
All right.
That was a TV show, I think.
What's that look like?
I don't know.
But it was on the way, love American style.
Yeah, but what does loving American style mean?
Big Uncle Sam Hat.
Where?
Wherever, man.
All right.
All right.
Mason, what are you reading?
I watched two episodes of a couple of TV shows.
Sure.
I watched the first two episodes.
that are out of the show Lucky.
It's an Apple TV show.
It's got Anya Taylor Joy in it.
It's like a crime show.
So it's a, she plays a woman named Lucky and her and her husband are like con artists.
Yeah, and they get,
and they get a big score.
They get millions of dollars.
Big score.
But, and they spend the night at, that's Caesar's Palace.
Yes.
Product placement.
But when she wakes up, she's been drugged and the husband's gone and the money's gone.
And the FBI's been tipped off.
she's there, so she has to escape.
So it sort of becomes this idea of like,
where's a husband, where the money go?
Is he in on this?
Has he been kidnapped?
It's pretty compelling, I like it.
And she's also awful.
Lucky is awful.
Like she's a...
I like an awful character.
She's like a...
It's again, like, people have talked about this,
but it's nice that women get to be awful on screen.
You know, as opposed to being like, stop it, boys.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
She's like...
Stop mucking around.
She's clearly...
And what is interesting is that I keep forgetting she is terrible.
Because she's in this situation where she's being
pursued on all sides and like, you know, the criminals want to get her and the FBI wants to get her or
whatever. And then she'll be like, she'll go to a home of like, you know, a woman who's, you know,
a single mom and she's just trying to protect her daughters or whatever. And she'll come in and,
you know, take advantage of her hospitality or whatever and then just rip her off on the way out
kind of thing. And it's like, oh yeah, you're awful. I forgot. You know what I mean? Just on the way out
just casually. She'll just spin some story about, you know, how her, and what's interesting because it's like
what she says sort of has an element of truth.
She'll be like, oh, you know, I was in this bad relationship
and my boyfriend, you know, this, and that's why I'm here
and I don't have any money and blah, blah, blah.
And so this person will help her out.
She's like, later suckers.
But, you know, in a way...
She's Marty supreming everybody.
She's Marty supreming everybody because it's like, well, in a way...
He's not a nice guy, though.
Oh, no! I better call Lucky to tell her to stop this.
I also watch the first two episodes.
I don't know why, but I watched the first two episodes of Memory of a Killer,
which is the Patrick Dempsey show.
which is...
Oh, is that...
Yeah, okay.
Is that worth watching?
What's interesting?
Because I like Patrick Dempsey.
I think that's why I saw...
He's got a brain condition.
Yeah, I saw Patrick Dempsey on Instagram
and I'm like, he seems like a nice fella.
I like him.
I like his watches and hats and hair.
I do like his watches and hats and hair.
He's got great hair.
But it's...
So the premise basically is that he is a contract killer.
Yeah.
And they kills bad guys, of course.
Yeah.
But he's got a double life.
And the mob guys that he works for,
they don't know that he's a widower.
and he has a grown-up daughter,
they think he's just always been like this,
you know, this...
This cool aloof guy with cool hair.
Yeah, cool a loof guy with...
And obviously his daughter doesn't know that this is what he does.
The only people that know what...
The only person who knows what he does is his brother
who has Alzheimer's and he can't communicate.
So he just tells,
he just leans on this brother and he's like,
here's all the bad stuff I've done kind of thing.
Okay, right.
But then, like, but then he starts to develop Alzheimer's himself.
Or like, he's starting to have memory problems
when he's making mistakes and his,
Does he actually have Alzheimer's?
Is this like a twist thing?
No, he seems to actually have it.
Like he's forgetting like he puts a, you know, he, he brings a woman over to his house
and then he thinks he's putting his gun in the safe, but he just leaves it out somewhere and she's, you know.
And he's like, oh no, I'm making all these mistakes.
And so the world start to collide kind of thing.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
I think he's, yeah, I think Dempsey is good in it.
But it's very, based on the first two episodes I watched, it's, it's, it feels pretty network sitcom.
And but, no, network drama, I mean.
Right.
Like, uh, in the sense of, like, um, it's, based.
Like, I'll give you an example, like there's a moment where he's having lunch with his daughter
at a restaurant and there's, you know, they're facing the window.
Yeah.
Or they're at the window.
They're eating lunch at the window.
And someone sent an assassin to kill him and spent, and he notices that that is happening
because the red dot appears on his daughter.
And it's like, and he, you know, he heroically pushes her out of the way and whatever.
And it's like, they don't really use that.
No, but why would anybody do that?
Yeah.
You wouldn't send a professional killer to send a to kill a professional killer.
They don't need the red dot.
They don't need the red dot.
Exactly.
Like they don't need.
But it's like, yeah.
So it's like, but it's part of the lexicon of like contract killers for like regular people.
You'd be like, well, of course they're going to, there needs to be a scene where he pushes somebody out of the way at the, the laser side or whatever.
Yeah, absolutely.
But it's like nobody would ever actually do that.
I mean, I think there would be a better way to do that.
You see the glint of, you see the glint of the scope or whatever.
It doesn't even have to be that.
Yeah.
That was my, but there would be...
Somebody could yell,
I'm going to kill you, Patrick Dempsey,
and he'd be like, not on my watch.
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang,
you know?
With the lasers.
Bang, bang, bang, bang.
Exactly.
With laser gun.
Lays...
Not probably watch a couple more episodes.
Again, I like, yeah, sort of fun.
It's fun and stylish and maybe it gets less dumb.
Sounds to me like you're describing Patrick Dempsey himself.
Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Got him.
Cheers, boys.
Cheers, boys.
Back to the boat.
We've done a sick burn.
Back to the boat.
That was a good thing.
I did it.
I think that was a nice burn on Patrick Dempsey.
Yeah.
A real hymn.
Yeah, it was a cooling balm to Patrick Dempsey.
That's right.
I've been watching because it's been 25 years of the office since the office.
Oh, yeah.
The original series.
And my understanding is there were two releases.
Bazaar.
This is why I wanted to talk about it.
So the BBC released one, which was like interviews with all the cast and stuff and Stephen Merchant or whatever.
No.
Something like that?
No, so the BBC did.
Maybe there is that.
But what I watch, there's Martin Freeman and McKenzie Crook.
Oh, yeah.
Who play Garin and Tim.
And they sit down and it's just like half an hour where they just talk about the office to each other.
That's what I was thinking of.
I think the one that people seem to like.
Yeah.
And there's one, really interesting.
Released one.
Yeah.
So Ricky DeVase did one on his YouTube channel where he's like, oh, I guess I'm using YouTube again.
Whatever.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
If you can handle, sorry if you can't handle that.
Yeah.
I don't even care whatever.
Yeah.
Oh, whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
So he counts down like the top best moments from the office or his best.
Is Stephen Merchant involved in any of them?
This is what's weird.
So Stephen Merchant released a clip.
Yeah.
This is again what I want to talk about it.
Because I don't really care.
I just find it interesting.
It is interesting.
Yeah.
So if you don't know, Stephen Merchant and Ricky Javis came up together.
No, sorry.
Ricky Javis hired Stephen Merchant to be an assistant for him.
Right.
And they worked together and then they did a little.
radio show together and then among other things and then they ended up creating the office together
but ricky jabase was kind of the face of it because he's he's in it he's david bray and merchant
for the most part was never in the she was it appeared in occasionally he's in like one episode he plays
like a friend of garren but of course he subsequently he was in extras and he was in other stuff he's done he's
quite a quite a quite a quite a quite a quite a quite a quite a good acting career than rickie jubase does
he's got a generally quite regarded well regarded acting career generally like he's in logan yeah he's a good
comedic actor. He's a good dramatic actor, clearly, you know, and people seem to like him.
You see him on interviews and stuff. He's very funny, like, in person where I, Ricky Jervase is less
and less so. Right. And so, but around, I think after the time of like Cemetery Junction,
or maybe it was Life's Too Short, which is the Warwick Davis series where he just plays David
Brent. Right. But it's also in the universe where Ricky and Steve play themselves and he'll visit
them occasionally and whatever. Oh, okay. So after this, yeah, it's not very good. But after that,
they stopped working together.
Interesting.
For various reasons that we do not know.
Salacious reasons?
Yes.
So yeah,
after life too short,
they parted ways
and they started doing different things.
Stephen Merchant again,
still was some directing and acting.
Ricky Jervais did a
David Brent's spin-off movie.
Oh,
that's right.
Yeah.
He went back to his music career.
Yeah,
and it's just not,
and he always said
how he'd never return to the office.
Well,
it's not technically the office.
It is the office,
except he's the only one in it.
Right.
But he also, again, works in an office and it's just not very good.
Anyway, so Ricky Jervais has got this conversation on his YouTube channel
where he just counts down these 20 moments.
With no one.
And, you know, it's interesting to see his perspective and how they filmed him, whatever,
because, again, I love the office.
And it's such a good performance by him.
And, I mean, the fact that, you know, it was so successful,
and there's a spinoff in every country at this point, you know.
And, like, good spin-offs, too.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like, it's so good that the template for this translates so well.
Like there's almost
There's almost no examples of
Stuff like this
You know, an adaptation doing as well as the original
No, absolutely
But the American one, you know, blew the roof off
Yeah, you know, etc.
So, you know, you cannot take that away from the man
No, absolutely. I would, and even like extras
I quite like extras and probably some of the others fun
Yeah, absolutely.
Probably other than some of the other.
But also like clearly the best work that he has done
Yes.
Is with Stephen Merchant.
Yeah. Extras is great as well because they've leveraged
the success of the office into getting lots of celebrities and getting them to do
play against type of small stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not the full focus of the, yeah.
But I think, yeah, because Ricky Javas kind of becomes obsessed with like celebrity
culture and it'll go to Golden Globes and it'll be like, oh, you all suck and whatever.
Yeah, but I'm here though.
But it's so like, I don't know, and I think people like it, but it's always felt kind of safe
and tame and they're paying you to do this.
Like, the celebrities, they feel kind of in on the joke because you can get up and
be like, well, is it Johnny Depp and alcoholic or whatever they do?
They're doing.
Typically, he's not.
It's a joke.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
But what's interesting, though, but in interviews, and this is also noticeable in this,
he hasn't mentioned Stephen Merchant.
Yeah, not at all.
And he probably has in passing this, probably been in moments, but it's like when I did this,
when I was acting in this scene, I thought the character could be like this.
And what else?
Well, maybe Stephen Merchant had no opinion on that in the moment.
Maybe, maybe you're right.
So it's pointless.
Maybe it was.
would be a series of then I, and then I said, what do you think about this Stephen
Merchant?
He said, oh, I don't know.
I'm thinking about being in Logan in a couple of decades.
Yeah.
But there's also, like, I think Stephen Merchant, in addition to adding funny stuff, he puts
an internal logic to the universe, which makes sense.
There's like a hyper, not a hyper reality.
There is a reality to the office and even extras, but less so.
It feels like a real universe where if you look at like Derek or Lines Too Short or
The Invention of Lying.
Did he write that?
Did he write that?
Yeah, I think he might have even done that.
with Stephen Merchant.
I hope not,
because that's an atrocious movie.
It's not good.
Yeah, like, and it's not,
so, like,
just watching,
if you've seen any clips
from, like,
Ricky Jabbae spin-off movie,
whatever it's called.
It's just, like,
I don't even think you understand this.
Right.
Maybe you never did,
or you definitely don't now.
Right.
But the fact that he,
but Stephen Merchant
will mention Ricky Devats,
and we'll credit him and whatever.
It's a real Martin Malloy situation.
This is a Martin Maloy situation.
But it's also,
interesting. Martin Freeman says something in that conversation with McKenzie Crook where
he says they do actually add a lot of their own lines and moments they did to that show.
Right.
But they weren't in the script, but they're not credited for them.
And then if you read a script for that, which they've released, they're actually just
transcripts of the episodes.
Right.
They're not the original scripts.
And it wasn't him saying, oh, they were shit and we fixed it.
Right.
It was just like, no, we did.
He wasn't like angry about it.
No, right.
Like, no, we added like a bunch of stuff in the moment.
So if you buy a script now or you find it on the internet, it's often like, it's as
if, it's just verbatim.
It's as if Ricky Javasan, Stephen Merchant, wrote everything when they didn't.
And again, he's not saying that like they're not talented and we fixed it.
That's not what it is.
But I don't know, I just found the whole thing around this just really fascinating.
And now Ricky Javasan got that fucking cat show, whatever, cat Netflix.
No, he doesn't make that up.
It was an animated thing or whatever, I don't know.
That's just you're spinning your wheels and we've run out of gas by the end of the podcast
and you're like, what if Ricky DeVay's had a Netflix cat, cat thing?
No.
I'm shooting this one down.
Yeah.
Like, and also like anybody, maybe people love his stand-up, but like, I think it's really
tame and bad.
Wow.
Which is not a hot take either.
Like, a lot of people think that.
It's a shame.
I don't know.
It's, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,
it's like a weird parody of himself at this point.
And he clearly is affected by stuff,
which is the oddest.
Because didn't you have a friend who like just tweeted randomly
at Ricky Javis and not even to him
and he like found him and like replied to him?
Maybe.
Like he would do stuff like that.
Yeah, I know that does happen.
Yeah.
Anyway, he's a catty bitch.
And I appreciate that about him though.
That is true actually, yeah.
Yeah, very good.
That's it, the office.
It's good.
You've seen the original office.
Also, I've mentioned this before on the podcast,
but you haven't seen Detectorists.
Speaking of McKinsey Crook.
Mackenzie Crook has a new show, which he mentioned,
which I was like, oh, I should watch that.
And I can't remember what it was.
Bring it up, but Detectorist is a show with him,
I think created by him, and it's him and Toby Jones
as best friends in a sort of rural town in England,
and their hobby is getting out in the land
with metal detectors because they're trying to find, you know,
ancient Anglo-Saxon treasure or whatever it is.
And maybe they never find the treasure.
but maybe the treasure was friendship.
Or maybe they just find the treasure.
Maybe they find some treasure in the end of the third season or whatever.
Oh, so he has a show called Small Profits, which six episodes is apparently quite good,
which he wrote and maybe directed some of.
Okay, terrific.
So there you go.
Six episodes, typical, UK, typical.
Typical. Six episodes, wait three years, get another two episodes.
Typical, typical.
Always putting their best stuff out there, typical.
Typical, yuck.
I mean, I was thinking about the other day, Garth Marengi's Dark Place.
Typical.
Just the idea of like, that is the, that is the, that is the,
platonic ideal of the reason
British shows are like that.
Yes.
Because there's no wasted time.
There's no filler.
They're not like,
how do we build this series up for five seasons?
It's just like you may never get another one,
put all the best stuff on,
get the best guys you can,
put it all out there and,
and,
you know,
maybe you never get another one.
And he hasn't,
no,
he is in the office.
Yeah,
he's in two really funny scenes.
But no,
like,
that is,
that's the perfect.
Yeah.
It's the absolute ideal of what that is.
Totally.
But he has done, if you haven't.
It's done like stage readings or something.
And he's done audiobooks as well.
He's done Garth Mringy's Territone, which is a bunch of, you know.
Because he's like a knockoff Stephen King.
Yeah, and it's very much in that style of like, you know.
Isn't this spooky?
Isn't this spooky and isn't this character the absolute best?
Yeah.
Anyway, terrific stuff.
Triific stuff.
Should we do the next segment of the show?
Yes, it's letters.
Yeah.
He's the letters theme.
Oh, I'll allow.
I hope.
Will you?
Mm-hmm.
I can't wait to hear what wacky character you think brought the letters this week, Mason.
Oh, nobody does.
Some people just email in to weekly planetpotter Gmail.com, and I just look at the...
Those wacky characters.
I just look at the Gmail app.
Wacky stuff, Mason.
I've got it set up for my personal account, but also the weekly planet podcast.
And I just go through and I just look at them.
And sometimes they're, you know...
I can't go with you on this one, Mason.
This is too crazy, even by your standards.
Sorry.
It was brought by the Silla, the Big C, C monster.
Okay.
From The Odyssey.
All right, yeah.
But the letter, it's a six-armed monster, but the letters are so big, it could only provide me with three.
Three letters, because it's two hands.
Two hands per letter.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yep.
That's a great riff.
It's also a planet broadcasting.
That's not a riff.
That was the truth.
The riff I tried was the thing about looking in the Gmail line.
This is the truth.
Planet Broadcasting Greatmates group.
There's also a Facebook thread every week.
Oh.
What have got in terms of John Letters?
What are you doing about this,
James, this is a hot, this is, this may contain spoilers, specifically for the Batman part two.
Haven't seen it.
Yeah, neither of I. That's why it might be spoilers.
So if you're concerned about spoilers, I'm an email that may not even real.
I guess I'm not.
Okay, good.
I can get another letter.
No, fuck it.
All right.
This is from Russell.
Hi, lads.
Hope you well.
I mean, I'm fine.
James is going through it.
See what this is Russell.
If that is your real name, fake-ass tree noise name.
My nephew works at Warner Bros. Studios in the youth.
Okay, all right.
Michael works at Nintendo, man.
Michael also works at Nintendo.
What?
Yeah.
You know my uncle?
Probably.
Probably.
Okay, cool.
Probably.
Are they working on the Nintendo Switch 4?
Yeah.
Skipping one?
Yeah.
As a prank?
I won't say which department in order to protect his identity.
It's probably in the Nintendo department.
Cool.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, yeah.
He's seen some of the sets for the Batman 2.
It's only minor info for now.
One, a junkyard.
Two, a ballroom.
Okay.
Three, men and women moving between sets, dressed in suits wearing owl masks.
I knew.
It seems the quarter of ours
will be making its live action debut.
Well, that's all for now.
I'll reach out when I hear more.
Or your nephew's fired.
Yeah.
Because they figure this out.
They're very good.
Name him.
I'm not going to.
Name the nephew and the man.
Russell?
Yep.
Russell leaves, you said?
Russell leaves, that's right.
Russell leaves like in the forest.
Is it Russell or is it Rustle?
It's Rustle.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right, cool.
But don't give us like, I mean, I love it.
But don't want explicit spoilers.
And then Batman does this and then Batman does this
and then Batman does that.
Why, it says Russell Crow?
He's famous.
Yeah, he's famous.
He would know, wouldn't he?
No, thank you for that.
That's cool.
Good night, boys.
There's kind of hits in the Batman
that there's like quarterbell stuff
or maybe this coincidence from American.
But no masks, are there?
Maybe there is in one particular scene.
Maybe Bruce Wayne's the mask.
Bruce Wayne, he's not the mask.
That's Jim Carrey.
That's cool.
Thank you, Russell.
I'm sorry for you.
Robert Pattinson could be a good, the mask.
He would.
He's got the chin and head for it.
He's got the chin and the head for it.
The twitch and he's oily.
He's oily.
oily so it'd be easy to get the mask on and off.
Slip it up. But that might be a problem.
Because it's always falling off. He's doing a big
icerumba or whatever. That's exactly.
Whatever the mask does these days.
Yeah, that's right.
He wouldn't do anything like that because that's politically incorrect.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Isaac Dimmick says, how do you feel about the accessibility?
Dimmock, like the bookshop?
Like the book shop.
Whoa!
Spelled differently.
Accessibility of the Odyssey in the 70mmmm format it was intended for.
To me, it does feel a bit absurd to have a film more expensive and harder to access
in the way the director intended.
Hmm.
Well...
I mean, you can still access it, obviously.
Yeah, eventually.
I mean, just regular-sized.
I mean, some people have said that and you see people and it makes sense to think about it.
People are like, well, why don't they just put that in or put the IMAX format with black bars on the side in a regular cinema?
Okay, yeah.
But I think the answer is because...
Box it up.
They won't allow it.
I think people would complain.
Yeah, they would.
They would complain.
Why don't I get enough movie?
But the IMAX is a format, but it's also a brand and a company.
IMAX stands, of course, for I love maximum amount of movie,
which is the philosophy of the founder.
Yeah.
Tom Cruise.
Yes.
The X stands for Zeno. Go on.
That's right.
But I would suspect it's basically, even if you could get a projector that could
project it onto a regular movie screen, I would say the contract says you're not allowed
to do it.
Because people would be like, like you said, why is it so small and weird?
Why is my movie square?
Wise about movie square.
So they'd be like, that's right out.
Like, I'm sure you could technically Jerry Rigger projected to do that.
Yeah.
But they wouldn't.
They wouldn't lay.
It's like why it's like if you said why won't, why can't I see Netflix shows off Netflix?
Because they won't, they won't allow it.
That's probably right.
Yeah.
I don't mind it.
I mean, yeah, it is a luxury to be able to pay more or even just live somewhere where you can see it like this.
It's only one in Australia.
And so it's fortunate it's near us.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not even big IMAX though.
No.
I think there's even bigger IMAX.
even bigger iMacs than that.
Whoa, that's crazy.
We're going to need a bigger imax, man.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
But the fact, I think it would be a problem if it was unavailable
or it was a much worse experience if you don't see it like that.
Yeah.
If it's like, well, you don't get key elements of this movie.
That's true, yeah.
And again, like, because what happens usually is when they do the advertisement for the movie in iMacs,
they show a still from the movie.
Yeah.
And in our case, it's the still for the,
Odyssey, it's Matt Damon meeting Agamemnon, so it's just the big brushes on their head.
More hair, more brush.
More brush.
So we're not missing that much, I think.
Exactly.
We didn't even care.
We don't even care.
We don't even want to see more movie.
Yeah.
I brought a less movie.
I do actually.
Yeah, more movies.
I want to see a big movie.
Big movie.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
It's interesting.
And we can say that.
We can definitely say that.
Yeah.
He's named after Miller.
Yep.
It's Miller time, folks.
Is it?
Yeah.
Yep.
He hasn't said that, but I've decided.
42 p.m.
That's Militam.
Oh, is it?
Yeah, that's right.
Sorry, go on.
Maybe if someone's listening to us and it's 5.30 to 4.4 p.m.
They'll blow their freaking minds.
Or AM.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or a different time.
Yeah.
People will make links no matter what the time is.
Yeah.
4242?
Yep.
Yeah.
It's only an hour away.
Still 542, by the way.
Just letting you know.
What's next?
I'll let you know when it changes.
Miller says, gooday, boys.
My name's Miller.
Yeah, we know Miller.
It's Miller time.
It's Miller time.
Hello from Massachusetts
I'm a big fan of bands like
Modest Mouse
And even as a Massachusetts resident
I could not care less about Dinosaur Jr.
A Massachusetts?
Well, I like Dinosaur Jr.
I don't know Dinosaur Jr.
My question for you fellas
Is do you have any movies or music
or anything else that you feel like you should like
and just can't get into based on other things you're into?
I think I've mentioned this before
but Doctor Who is something I should get into
Like that feels like a thing where I'm like
Did you invent this for me?
But I don't like it.
Did you, you know what I'm...
I like some of it.
Yeah, for sure.
Anything like Warcraft kind of, what's that?
You know, Warhammer shit.
Like, they're different.
Warhammer 40,000?
That.
Warcraft?
Warcraft.
Okay.
Anime.
Yeah, right.
It's just too vast.
Wrestling.
Yeah, okay.
Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah, I just don't.
More music.
Like, I've been trying to listen to more music, but music.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've said this before, but a lot of people, based on the look that I have,
most people assume I'm like a call of duty guy or like,
like that, I'm like, no man.
No, man.
That requires reflex.
You're a Fortnite boy.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Yeah.
Because I've got the rhythm.
You do, you get a lot of rhythm.
You're doing the thing that you do.
Yep.
The Elaine dance.
That's right.
You know, I'm not really into, and my son is running one, and I'm really enjoying it.
He's running a D&D campaign for like the family.
Oh.
Which is really awesome.
Okay.
He's the dungeon on master.
He's a dungeon on master.
But I cannot.
I cannot with you, son.
Not with him.
Totally.
I love it.
But like in other situations, I'm just like, I just can't with this.
Like, it's a massive time sink.
And I, oftentimes I'm just like, we just roll on fucking dice, man.
We just have it.
We're just adding dice up here.
You're not a goblin.
That's why he has all those dice.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
But like watching him create a world.
Like, yeah, 100%.
I mean, I did play when I was like a young teenager, but I don't know if I could get into
any more.
It's the micromanaging.
And I've done it on podcast.
I've done it with, um,
Sanspans and that's a lot of fun.
To me that's also, you know,
you know what it is.
I'm also,
I think in,
what I've enjoyed,
like doing that,
we did it with,
I did with Dragon Friends once
and there's some other stuff.
What I like about that sort of situation
is I just build an entirely throwaway character.
Yeah.
Or they just provide me with one.
And I'm just like,
all right.
No homework.
No homework.
I don't have to think about this and be like,
oh,
what should I put in my spell slots or whatever?
It's just like,
or even just like you can just click a button
and a character will be generated randomly.
And I'm like,
okay I'm this guy now and if I die that's alright yep throw the throw the character shoot away and I'll
do it again totally give me another one also if you're not related then second guy's not related
this he's a different guy different random if you want us to show up to your podcast or even an event in
real life no homework yeah no don't make us prep that's right and that goes for anybody going
anywhere yeah don't make anybody prep for anything yeah that's right mason yeah benjamin
says the odyssey got me thinking once again and I know you can speak to this
about the versatile actor John Leguizamo.
What are some of your favorite Johnny Legg's roles?
Cool.
Yes.
Podcasts.
Oh,
yeah.
This is a podcast wrecked time.
That's true.
I mean,
our friends,
Mission Zach,
had a podcast for a number of years,
so many years called Mission Zach's Leguizama.
Where they talk...
Wrap it up.
Well, they did.
Yeah, I don't.
But every week they talked about
character actor John Leguizamo's various roles.
And each week they watched a different, you know,
they watched a different dog off a clock.
I was on that a couple of times.
Were you on it?
I never got on it.
They never asked me.
Maybe because I needed homework.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're doing different aramas now.
They do different things.
They did a run on Star Trek.
They're doing...
They did a Ferengue Rama.
Yes, Frangirama.
Yeah.
And currently they're doing movie musicals, I think.
Yeah.
But what is my favorite Johnny Legs roll?
Ooh, great question.
Romeo and Juliet.
Yeah, he's fun in that.
But that's just a good...
It's a beautiful looking movie.
Yeah.
I finally found a place that'll make me a...
Leonardo DiCaprio in the shirt?
The shirt, yeah.
They weren't making that?
No, it's sort of, yeah, I don't know where they got the original one,
but I've been looking for years and I found out.
Are you going to open it up?
What does that mean?
Put a singleton.
Yeah, put a singleton.
Is that what he was doing?
Maybe, probably.
I don't know, man.
God, he's been in so much good stuff.
Oh, he's in diet too.
I didn't know that.
Super Mario Brothers, obviously.
Romeo plus Juliet, you mentioned.
Yeah.
The pest?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, Sporn is not a great movie, but he's really good in Sporn.
It's true.
He's funny Moulin Rouge.
I like his Ice Age guy.
You know what?
I thought, I think the first thing I remember seeing him in was Moulon Rouge.
And I thought he was a really short guy.
Oh, yeah.
Because they did the shoes on the knees thing or whatever they did to make him look short.
I feel like he wouldn't be huge.
But yeah.
Oh, he's great in Khalido's way.
Oh, I didn't see Khaled his way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The John Wicks.
Yes, he's in some of the John Wicks.
Some of the John Wicks.
Some of the John Wicks.
Yeah.
So this is 5'4 6.
Okay.
Well, he looks shorter in the movie.
Yeah, because he's on his knees.
Yeah.
With the shoes.
With the shoes, man.
Yes.
Yeah.
Cool.
All right, you got another letter?
I do.
Yeah.
He's also in Tuong Fu.
Thanks for everything, Julian Umar.
Yeah.
Which is America's to the adventures of Cusela of the desert.
It's not as good.
Agreed.
But it's not by that it's charm.
He's the last email presented by Cilla the same monster.
Whoa!
I don't know about this.
Well, it's true.
The other thing I said was true.
I forgot.
It's from Arjun.
Hi, Jen.
Big Phena of the podcast.
Me too.
I really wish this was a joke, but it's not.
I had a terrible dream where a man I hadn't heard of
until I started you guys way back
and had seen a picture of maybe twice, appeared to me in a dream.
In my dream, I just arrived at my local mall
during a snowstorm at night time.
When I parked my car, a mysterious man appeared
and started walking towards my car.
I checked to make sure the doors were locked.
He tried to open my car door,
and when he couldn't, he simply stared and said to me,
I'm Irver Ball.
I then pulled the car out and started driving away as fast as I could.
He then teleported in front of the road, and I ran him over.
When I got home, somebody knocked on the door.
It was his lawyer.
I was getting sued by Irver Ball.
But he died.
Yeah, also that was real. That wasn't a dream you had. That was a real thing that happened.
You have a court date. Yeah, he, he, he, he's a, his lawyer emailed us as well. He, he's, he's, he looked to sit in the email. You are getting sued for running over over bowling in your house. Well, that's best case in a case, because sometimes he beats up people he doesn't like. Sometimes he beats you up. Yeah, that's true. Did you see citizen vigilante? No, I didn't see citizen vigilante. Yeah, he's going to. No. Didn't army cry after he said. Yeah, he was like, oh, I didn't sign up for this. Yes, you did. What are you talking about? Yes, you did Army Hammer. It's a, it's fucking Uffat.
Ball.
Oh, man.
It is interesting because for people who don't know,
Irvey Ball, up until maybe the mid-2000s,
he got all these movies funded because there was a German tax loophole or scheme or something,
where if you invested in his movie, that was a 100% tax write off or something like that.
And again, I don't know how to avoid paying taxes.
I wish I did, but I assume that if you use that in a clever way, you could just pay no tax.
And so people with money would, you know, pay for all these movies.
And then since then he's paid for all these movies himself, I think.
Incredible.
Which is, you know, that's interesting.
Yeah, I guess that is interesting.
Has he done?
He must have done a good movie.
Just purely.
Yeah, let's have a look.
Don't people like the postal, one of the postal movies?
The one where he kills the president?
I don't know if that's the one.
Okay.
Or were they, is it a trilogy of kind of,
to people like in the name of the king, the Jason Statham one?
I probably do.
Where he plays Farmer.
People have talked about,
can we do it for Caravada Garbage?
And I just don't think...
Yeah.
People are going to mention Blabarella.
He did do Blabarella.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, Rampage President Down.
That's a movie.
We've done this.
Yeah.
We've done this.
Wasn't...
Yeah, no, we have.
No, okay, none of these.
This is a less exciting version of the time we did this bit.
Wasn't he going to call Citizen Vigilante
The Dark.
He was, yes.
And then they made him change it?
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that's cool and good.
And he's also the guy that was like, how dare they make this movie called Rampage?
You stole the idea.
And then you make a movie called The Dark Night.
Yeah.
Brilliant stuff.
It's almost like he doesn't understand or care about anything.
Wow.
It's almost like that.
Wow, big call.
Yeah, anyway, I hope he's caught case goes wild.
Me too.
This is from Okay-Kan-Kan-Oakin, who says,
I've recently learned that there's about the incredible Australian show,
the twist.
Simply,
what the fuck?
In one episode,
our main man,
Bronson, swallows a fish
by accident.
Turns out this fish
goes into your dick
when swallowed, so he decides
to use the fish as a propeller
and swims really fast
swimming in competitions
and even fly like highly copped
to save his brother?
And that episode won an award?
I don't remember that episode.
I need an explanation.
That must have been in the latest seasons
of round the twist.
I don't recall a lot of...
A lot of these movies,
these shows are strange shows.
Some of these are horrifying.
Yeah, a lot of the shows
from that era,
I just know as
they were on.
I don't know if I watched all of them.
There's a horrifying
scarecrow clown episode.
There's one where their house
gets bird shitted so much
it gets completely drowned out.
Oh, wow.
There's one where a boy
gets hypnotized into a
to a churns a chicken
and he eats some snails.
There's one where Bronson wants to piss.
Charles Bronson.
Yeah, Bronson wants to win a pissing competition
at school.
So he meets a magic water lady.
So that'll do most,
the longest,
Piss or the highest piss
highest piss?
Okay.
For the urinal.
Okay.
It sounds like I'm making this up.
Yeah.
Well, somebody did.
It was Paul Jennings.
It was Paul Jennings.
There's one where there's a magical pair of underpants and you put them on and then
you can also swim really fast and be really strong.
Huh.
But then he peat, uh, Pete twist, he goes and swims in the water and they shrink.
And then they put them on a frog at the end and the frog wins a frog competition.
Oh, a frog wins a frog competition.
Wow.
Typical of a frog.
I'm not making this up.
Paul Jennings made it up.
Yeah, okay.
I know they say you can't say anything or make anything anymore.
And that's mostly not true.
I don't think that they would,
the ABC,
who was like the government broadcast.
They gave Bluey away.
They would never pay for round the twist these days.
That's crazy.
They do a tame reboot.
They would do a tame reboot.
But you know,
people probably know this,
but they gave Bluey away.
Yeah, the merchandising rights to like the BBC or whatever.
Yeah, great.
Cool, really good.
Yeah, no, they would,
certain media,
people would be up in arms if they were like,
oh, they're making a show where children are pissing, are they?
Children are urinating on screen.
I bet they are.
I bet you see everything.
No, they don't insane media commentators.
Well, so kids are pissing all over TikTok.
That's right.
They think it's funny.
They think it's funny.
They think it's funny these TikTok kids.
Is that the episode?
That's the whole episode, folks.
Thank you so much for listening.
I haven't seen this dickfish one.
It sounds as made up as all the ones I said,
but it's probably real.
Yeah, there might be somebody just adding odd episodes
around the twist and people going,
Yeah, I remember it.
Yeah, I'll remember it.
That's a real one.
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Yeah, this one's from Juicy Zah,
from the USA says, Better Than Joker.
And pizza with eggs.
Yep, I like this.
Do an egg and a pizza?
Of course I will.
Aussie pizza, traditional Aussie pizza.
You do it's interesting because you're also doing
a pit of bread pizza.
That's not true.
It's from Mass Ravens from the USA also says
It's an Australian pizza James
It's the Australian pizza
The only Australian pizza I like is from around the twist
It's got piss on it?
It's probably got piss and dickfish
It's all over
Piss and Dickfish
All over it
When your pizza, wow
Little underpants
Yuck
They're magic
Oh
Michael Aploc
Because he's magic because he put them in the microwave
Oh of course
He dried his underpants before school
Strange things happen when you go around the twist
And when you put your jocks in the microwave.
Yeah, sure, sure.
Michael A plus Jordan says, so good.
Makes me want to drink fosters and be British.
Australians, don't drink fosters.
All British.
That's true.
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Might be a bit of a later release.
Yeah.
Especially for the paywall.
Uh-huh.
Because, get over it.
Yeah.
We have to.
wait for Comic Con to...
Have to wait for Comic Con.
And what will probably happen.
Hopefully, because sometimes we wait for Comic Con
and actually nothing happens.
Yeah.
It's like, this is a big wait for...
Big time from Marvel and they don't release anything.
And they're like, afterwards, they're like,
we decided not to show up.
There should be a Doom's Day trailer.
Yeah, Robert Downey Jr. will show up
and he'll do a little pirouet on stage.
I'm doing a pirouet.
I'm Robert Daddy Jr.
I'm not the Doom.
It's hard to do a pirouet in these big shoes I wear
with a big heel on them.
I'm Robert Daddy Jr.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
Good on him.
Yeah, good on him.
I don't know.
I don't know.
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I grab that jammy.
You guys, we'll see next week.
I don't know.
