The Weekly Planet - 66 Ant-man & Agent Carter

Episode Date: January 12, 2015

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Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com. My name is James, your main name is Mr. Sunday. I'm an editor at that website with me as always my co-host, Nick Mason. Friday record, that's what we're doing. Friday record, unusual.

So what if news happens? It won't, I've called Hollywood. Okay, great, okay, but then we're sorted. Yeah, Friday night, so this is, which is actually like a Thursday day. Oh, we're missing so much. So much. Hot celebrity news. What if they release the Batman v Superman trailer?

They will absolutely never do that, right? They say, the rumor is that. Who's they? The internet. The guy from Latina Review. I was just going to say Latina Review. With Jupiter ascending. Oh, right. But we won't get any reports on that because nobody's

going to say jupiter exactly so it'll just slip right by yeah would you go see jupiter ascending if this is the only way to see it i'll probably say jupiter ascending actually yeah i guess i guess we will right yeah how bad could it be who's that speaking i was speaking to sean willetts i made a friend about jupiter asc Ascending. And just watching that trailer, there's so much happening, but who cares? Exactly. There's so much happening, but at the same time, there's nothing happening.

It's like he's an elf man from Jupiter. He's got jet boots. He's got jet skateboard boots. Mila Kunis is a secret princess. Did she play two roles? I think. I don't know. Trailer could have made it a bit clearer and there's like sail ships in

space yep and it all looks nice but it's like who who cares that's true like the it it looks nice but at the same time like you've got you've had films like interstellar and gravity yeah they're doing a real space stuff yeah that also and guardians of the galaxy yeah exactly but like you know you you're saying oh here's here's these grounded real world spaceships yeah in this environment that looks amazing yeah you're like well here's these sail ships and if the cinematography isn't as good yeah i think people will be like oh look at this cgi in space yeah i feel like almost yeah we've kind of gone past this like throwing everything at the screen at once yeah anyway it remains to be seen let's go

with an open mind let's not little chance of that i've got some hbo news oh yes game of thrones your favorite show teaming up with entourage yes crossover great uh that returns on april 12th which is cool okay you're gonna get up to date? by April 12th? not necessarily but by the end of Game of Thrones this season you've got until April 12th and then 10 weeks after that and then we can do a Game of Thrones episode I have some free time

in April I reckon I can do it okay good you'll love it alright I'd say they won't love it people want a Game of Thrones episode that's a lot of saying

but yeah also that's the same day as the line up okay how about this hypothetically and I won't love it. God. People want a Game of Thrones episode. That's a love sign. But yeah. Also, that's the same day as the lineup. Okay, how about this? Hypothetically. Yeah. I watch the... I get up to date.

Yep. And I hate it. But I force my way through it. And then we do the Game of Thrones episode. And it's just you talking about Game of Thrones. It's just me going...

And just double thumbs down to everything. I think people can appreciate that. I guess so. They can appreciate a different opinion, right? It's a proper critical analysis. Isn't it, though? Exactly, yeah.

Yeah. It's the same night. So the Sunday night lineup is Game of Thrones... Entourage. It's done. Rerun of Entourage. Just a five-minute segment of the Entourage movie. Yeah, a featurette.

Great. Yeah, yeah. So it's Game of Thrones, Silicon Valley, and Veep. Veep I haven't really seen a lot of. I've got to get into it. I've seen a few of the first season, but I heard it gets really, really good. I really like Veep. Yeah.

Silicon Valley, I've never... Silicon Valley's great. I don't love it, though. Really? I've watched a couple, and I'm like, I'm not on board. I'm well on board. I like everybody on it, but I don't... All right, I'll give it another try. I'll not.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'll Game of Thrones it. All right, I'll give it another try. I'll not. Yeah. Maybe old Game of Thrones it. Our friend.

Oh, yes. Narrow down. We've got a lot of friends. Oh, yeah. Liam McIntyre. Don't know who that is. The guy who plays Spartacus after the first Spartacus died. Oh, your mate.

I've never met him. Though, he would not... If you went up and said, hey, do you know this guy? He'd be like, what? I'd have to be like in front of him, be like, I'm this guy. Do you remember me specifically from this? And then he'd be like, yeah, okay. Oh, sure. This is because I basically.

It's not you were good friends and now he's got some sort of Hollywood amnesia. No. No, he used to manage a cinema near me. But like friends of friends, whatever. Yeah, nice guy. This is before he was famous, obviously. He didn't do Spartacus and then come back

and manage his cinema oh there's anything wrong with that look I loved Hollywood but none of the acting and the money and the fame what I loved is presenting

cinematic excellence to people yes on a small scale and cleaning up children's vomit yes but yeah he's playing

the weather wizard in Flash TV series that's cool even though we've already had a weather wizard if you recall. That was Clyde. Sure.

Clyde the Weather Wizard. Yeah. And he's playing Mark Weather Wizard. Oh, sure. Mark Martin. So that's cool. I wonder if he's going to have his wand. Yeah, the other one didn't really have a wand, did he?

No, he just could do it. Yeah. He could just do the weather. Or maybe the power of his weather control goes into a wand and then mark weather wizard yes then he gets the wand cool yeah he's like finally the destiny of my surname i've done it are you excited to hear that or it's another spartacus alumni entering the flash arrow universe oh yes there's been a few the amanda waller who's yep and then she's in it um the guy the guy who's crixus and uh death stroke yep he's in it there's

there's a bunch of others so yeah the guy who played boomerang man do you think there's boomer rangington you think this oh yes do you think they're set in the same universe yes definitely and those incarnations good without a doubt yeah but why wouldn't you pull from spartacus spartacus has a great cast so you know solid solid all around did you say it has a great casticus no no i've got no interest did you star wars you like star wars star wars what you know what star wars is no i know what star wars is good No, I know what Star Wars is, yes. Good. Okay, this will help. Great. Okay, cool. Two of the leads from... What's the ones? The Raid.

Oh, yes. I can't really pronounce his name, so I apologize. Ico Uwais and Yian Ruhain. You nailed both of those. Thank you. They've been cast in the Star Wars movie. Interesting. In unknown roles, or people have speculated, possibly as fight choreographers.

One of them played Mad Dog. The other one played a different one. I can't remember. I haven't seen those movies. I've watched like a lot of the clips of the fights and I'm like, this is good. I should watch all of this. But then I haven't. Someone actually said that we should have mentioned them in the best of last year.

Best movies of last year. The second one. Yeah, the second one. The second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one.

Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Actually, that was really good. Yeah. Didn't even think of the second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Yeah, the second one. Actually, that was really good.

Yeah. Didn't even think of that. Yeah. There you go. Didn't like it that much then, did you? Yeah. Although I gave it the award for best scene set on a train

where a woman kills a whole bunch of people with hammers. But... Wait, doesn't that happen in Oldboy? Not on a train. And not... He's got like a one hammer, I think. Yeah.

Oh, she has like more than one hammer. She's got two hammers. Two hammers. Wow, that's a lot of... She's got two hands and a heart, don't she? I mean, maybe. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, she has like more than one hammers. She's got two hammers. Two hammers. Wow, that's a lot of... She's got two hands and a heart, don't she? I mean, maybe. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm just having a drink of this soda water. Great. Yeah. You like soda water? Not really, no. Why not? It's bland. You're a bland man.

It matches your bland countenance. Edward James Olmos is joining Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Yes, he is. As an undisclosed role. But I would say, what do you reckon? The corrupt S.H.I.E.L.D. Yes, he is. As an undisclosed role. But I would say, what do you reckon? A corrupt S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. I'm going to say an old corrupt S.H.I.E.L.D. agent.

I'm going to say they go to somewhere and he's there. He's chilling out. And they're like, oh, it's our old mate, S.H.I.E.L.D. agent Edward James Olmos. He'll help us on this. And then he'll help them for most of the episode. And then it turns out he's betrayed them. He's the captain from Battlestar Galactica. He's the captain from Battlestar Galactica. The whole time.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Cool. I mean, he's good, isn't he? Yeah. He's in things. Seems like a nice guy, probably. I don't know anything about him in real life.

Like, his real personal life. I imagine he's a bit cheeky in real life. Oh, really? He's got that glint in his eye. He sure does. He's a bit cheeky. Yeah. But sure.

Or maybe, is he old enough that he could show up in Agent Carter? It's probably not, is he? No, surely not. Because he'd be probably 60, maybe 65. Maybe even a bit younger. I don't know. Which means he'd be like just born. Right, sure.

So he'd be a baby. Yeah. They'd be like, oh my God, it's Edwin James almost as a baby. Sure, absolutely. Wow. Yeah. Flashback. Nice.

Anyway. That's great news, I guess. Uh-huh. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.Dback. Nice. That's great news, I guess. Uh-huh. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Yep. Got some movie release dates for you here. Oh, yeah. I'm ready.

These are things that I enjoy and remember. You can tell me this exact news next week and I'd be surprised. Maybe I'll try that. Right. Maybe I will. Gambit. Oh, yes. October 8th, 2016.

Channing Tatum revealed that, right? Yes, he did. On Twitter. He's like, Hey. You know? Yeah, that was it. No dates.

Just, Hey. And people just inferred. But he said, how do you say October 6th and whatever in Cajun? Much the same, I'd imagine. Except you add, I guarantee, at the end. At the end, that's right. So, yeah. Assassin's Creed. December 2016. do we know anything about that fastbender's in it

as the assassin's creed yes or is desmond the unlikable i hope they don't do that but how could they how could they not do it like if they want sequels and they want fastbender he has to be the the running guy i guess so so he has to be he has to be the running guy, right? I guess so. So he has to be... That's easily the worst element of those games, is the future stuff. Oh, and a lot of those games are not assassinating people. I played the Assassin's Creed 3. I've said this before.

And it was so many hours in, and I'm like, I haven't even... Just point me at somebody and I'll kill them. And it's like, meet George Washington. Oh, hello. I'm Declaration of Independence. I've got one in 10. Yeah, exactly I'll kill them. Right. And it's like, meet George Washington. Oh, hello. I'm Declaration of Independence. I've got one in teeth. Yeah, exactly.

It's that. Yeah. A lot of it. Great. And like the mechanics are great. Right. But it's like... You're building a little homestead and stuff.

Naval battle. Ugh, gross. No. Yeah. Shut up. So... Yeah, I think they started those games with the idea... It wasn't the idea...

And we're digressing here, but it doesn't matter because what is this show if not a succession of digressions yes the idea behind those games was that you are this character you are this man from the near future yes and you're living the lives of your predecessors or your ancestors yes and in each successive game you were going to go to a different period of your ancestry until it became the present day and, you were going to go to a different period of ancestry until it became the present day. And then you were going to become the future assassin. Yeah. But then... Spoiler alert, I guess.

Yeah. But then I guess the middle to... Like, they got lazier by two, right? Two. Because they were like, well, just use Italy again for a few more games, right? They used the same engine and... I mean, like, they rebuilt the cities or whatever, but it was the same character. The Italian guy. Can't remember his name name and then three was entirely new right and you were like a native american dude yeah yeah but then they were like there was like

alien there's alien technology and yeah in three desmond miles spoiler alert kills dies at the end right he touches like an orb because the aliens are like, we know who you are, Desmond Miles. And he touches this orb and he drops dead because the prophecy is that he would lead the new human revolution. Right, right. And then he would become like the new Jesus. Right.

Right. With t-shirts and all. Oh, sure, yeah. And then... I'm a stupid. The point's up to God. That's right. That's very good.

And then... What was I going to say gonna say and then but generations down the line as it is often with religious teachings it gets twisted and there's wars fought over because the different interpretations of whatever so and so he kills himself basically right he sacrificed himself to stop that from happening and it i haven't played after three because i'm like i'm out right fair enough so it seems we're now stuck in this universe where people kind of enjoy the historical aspects of it yeah but they hate the the future alien stuff yes but the universe is now saddled with that yeah so people just be like i want to be an assassin in the revolutionary war or world war ii or whatever but then you're like oh but we've got to deal with aliens and the prophecy yeah magic orbs or whatever then one actually the're like, oh, but we've got to deal with aliens and the prophecy.

Magic orbs or whatever. Actually, the one that I did play on Vita, your favorite system. Oh, yeah. Where you play as a French lady. Oh, yes. That one's only in the past. And it's basically like, you've got access to this person's memories. And that's it.

Oh, okay. So, better. So, I don't know what the new ones do. I don't care. Unless they bring one out and they're like, is the best game you'll ever play I'm out Not interested Because other games use Like for example Shadow of Mordor

Which I haven't played Takes the climbing and that of Assassin's Creed And all that good stuff And mixes it with the Arkham fighting Because the Assassin's Creed combat is very kind of clunky I don't know if you've ever played it Played a little bit So I'm like,

well, I'll just play that because that sounds way better. Yeah, mate. Okay, more dumb releases. Fassbender's out.

Fassbender's, yeah. So that's great, I guess. The next Rotpota, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, whatever. Oh,

yes. July 2017. Okay. And Fantastic Four 2, June 2017. Wait a second. Yes. What about 1? What happened to 1? It's still coming out this year. They're just not releasing second. Yes. What about 1?

What happened to 1? It's still coming out this year. They're just not releasing it. Yeah. Look, guys, we'll just spare you the first reboot. Excited? No. Why give us a release date of the second one?

We haven't seen anything of the first one. Why are they keeping it so under wraps? Because it's garbage. That's why. Yeah, there's been a lot of rumors about this and that. I don't know and maybe my ass hell we're gonna sweet drum solo though i watched whiplash this week good right amazing yeah my favorite part of whiplash the slapping yeah the slapping and jk simmons yeah it's all pretty good but my favorite part of it was and if you haven't seen whiplash there's a guy he's a guy and he he's obsessed with becoming the best jazz drummer like

us yeah exactly and he's and he's drumming away and he's, you know, you can see the fury in him and his hands are all torn up. Yeah. Because he's, you know, he's drumming away and he has to, you know, he has to feel the music, but he can't, you know, he can't stop. And, you know, his hands are just torn up or whatever. Yeah. And then it comes to the end of the film and the friend I'm seeing with,

she just leans over and there's like, she's got like eBay auctions for drumming gloves. And I'm like, oh, that would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. Yeah. Maybe you can't be the best drummer in the world. If you've got drumming gloves. Yeah, maybe it's cheating. Yeah.

That's all I'm saying. Okay. Anyway, Whiplash 2, when's that coming out? It's not ever. Wow. Fantastic Four 2 though. It's when Miles Teller teams up with Whiplash from Iron Man 2. He didn't die.

We'll get to that, though. Because Whiplash, there's a Whiplash reference in Agent Carter. Oh, yes. We'll get to that. Actually, I'm going to type that in because I'll forget. Okay, good. Whiplash! Variety have reported that Scarlett Johansson has been offered the lead role

in the Ghost in the Shell role in the Ghost in the Shell live action Ghost in the Shell movie I heard about that yeah you okay with it? yeah me too

yeah look and again yeah I don't know they we haven't seen any like they keep saying

we're gonna make this anime live action remake yeah we're gonna do Akira and we're gonna put what's his face in it that guy you like chris evans no joseph gordon levitt's guy you like whiplash the dreamy guy you like zach efron that's the guy you like they want to put efron in it for a while i like

efron i'm still gonna do that yeah there was a whole lot of concept art that came out that yeah uh-huh yeah um and i think the only one that really i mean i'm sure there are others but dragon ball z i think put like not the dragon Z and Akira, they're very different, obviously. But that kind of put a halt on all of that. Oh, they did Avatar as well. Yeah, Last Airbender. Though that's not actually, I think that's made in the US. I'm fairly certain.

But it's just made in that style. Right, right. I may be wrong. Or maybe you're wrong. I don't know. Oh, I don't want to be wrong. I may be wrong. Or maybe you're wrong.

I don't know. Oh, I don't want to be wrong. But yeah, no, you're right. Because we haven't really... Aside from those, we haven't... I would say Akira and Ghost in the Shell are kind of classics. They're the biggest. Yeah. Yeah.

And, you know, the issue was obviously, do you get these films with Japanese characters and then sort of whitewash the whole thing? Yeah. Like, I'm not... You know, I guess if you're doing it for western audiences yeah maybe because if only because they doesn't they don't really have a lot of japanese american stars or whatever sure put in there yeah and they want they want names what about the guy who played diamond face i don't know if he's japanese is that racist yeah okay it's racist against diamonds

certainly um but i don't know i want to let's see one good one before yeah we just cast we dream cast all these sure okay

all these future ones you know yeah let's see let's see Akira and see if it's any good on any level

yep sure and then if it's good I'll see Ghost in the Shell sure absolutely but Ghost in the Shell will be first oh then

then we're doomed because it's gone out of order it's all systems out of order you This whole system's out of order. You need to really put someone like a... I don't know, like the guy maybe who did... Like a Duncan Jones on Akira or something like that. Oh, yeah. So I remember whoever was on Akira, I was like,

I don't know whether that's the... Was it like a music video director? I can't remember. I think it was like the guy... Oh, I can look it up. Okay. Director by feature-length filmmaker uh newcomer yes rye robinson oh rye robinson do you know him no neither well that's pretty excellent now i'm

gonna quickly google him okay good okay so he's an irish guy he did the last days of ma on mars which actually have a copy of i I haven't read, watched. And Imaginary Forces, which is a short. And some other stuff. But no, nothing. Sounds like the perfect choice for Akira or Ghost in the Shell or whatever you said. Sorry about that. Slight divergent.

Daredevil, the Netflix TV series, has a release date i'm listening 10th of the 4th of this year which is 10th of the 4th as in our 10th because us us do it the other way april that's that's soon that's real soon yeah that's great so that's super exciting um steven denight who was a showrunner i think he was also spartacus showrunner you and your spartacus are you friends with him are you good friends with him? I'm not. I only know one Hollywood guy who doesn't really know me. Right.

That's it. That is the limit. But he knows everybody else. Yes, he does. We're linked in. Dot com. Dot com. Stephen tonight, yeah, he was doing a lot of questions on Twitter about the show.

And I kind of read through them. And you know, it's interesting. It's like, will there be a lot of blood? And he's like, not really. Not like Spartacus, but it'll be pretty brutal. Whatever. I a lot of blood and he's like ah not really not like Spartacus but it'll be pretty brutal whatever I mean sure I have some leftover blood

in my garage from Spartacus I've got drums of it I'm gonna try to to use as much as I can get him to somewhere that's how yeah that's how he goes from black costume

to red costume just into the blood and back out again yellow costume sorry no I think they're skipping the yellow costume

that's what I've heard well that makes sense yeah it's embarrassing I wonder if've heard well that makes sense yeah it's embarrassing no one knows blonde that makes sense yellow costume

but he said what would he do for Daredevil season 2 and I put this bit of news in specifically for you he just said oh you know

it remains to be seen but I'm a big fan of Wilbur Day who's Stilt Man yeah finally so yeah I would I would enjoy seeing any attempt to make just yeah because he's the one guy you can't like it's it's so difficult to like reboot almost any other

villain you can sort of reboot him and make him kind of cool yeah that's all he's got his stilts yeah you know doesn't have other tech on him he's got like a heat rate gun and stuff what if say iron man has like a jar of quarters and it's like on top of his cupboard oh yeah yeah and stilt man wants those is there anything he can do look you could use his stilt powers oh great the netflix uh ceo ted uh something he said the just netflix said the j Ted Netflix. Ted Netflix said the... Ted, a video on a demander. What?

Video on demander. That's his name. Okay. Yeah. He says that the... What's his name? The Jessica Jones series may not land this year. Okay.

Which is... Because they haven't even started filming it. So he's just like, we'll just do it. He goes, we'll play it kind of fast and loose. Like if it's ready, it's ready. If not, which is good. Yeah. but they also said there's probably sequels to all these shows depending on where they go yeah yeah which is also i know it's like they should probably follow the movie model in that they they shouldn't link them all together in the first run

like see how they stand on their own yeah and then once yeah they've all kicked off and they're all working then cross them over which i believe is once they've all kicked off and they're all working, then cross them over. Which I believe is what they're doing, I think. Because they're bringing them in the defenders. Remember that? They're doing the four separate men. Yeah, nice. Whatevs.

Now, we were going to see Taken 3 this week. Sorry, Tak3n. Yeah, Tak3n. We didn't. Nah. Because. Who cares? You know, I had time yesterday to see it.

I even made a little thumbnail for YouTube for a review. Was it Liam Neeson holding a gun? Yes. Great. And then I went, you know what? I don't want to see this. Yeah, okay. So I just didn't.

But things happened this week. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. So we've got other things to talk about. Let's talk about other things. We'll get to Taken when we care more about Taken. Which is never.

Probably never. Apparently it's not. It looks not bad. No, apparently it's not good at all. I've been tricked by a trailer once again. My brother said it was. Which brother? The one you don not bad. No, apparently it's not good. Oh, okay. At all. I've been tricked by a trailer once again. My brother said it was like. Which brother? The one you don't like.

Okay. Do you want me to continue? Yeah. It's all right. I'll hear him out the once. It's like a Grand Theft Auto movie, but like not in a good way. Okay. So, yeah.

Make of that what you will. Sounds kind of appealing. Mm. Mm. Colorful characters. Jumping out of planes. You know what's like a Grand Theft. Crank is like a Grand Theft Crank is like a

Grand Theft Auto movie it is yeah yeah anyway see that sounds great once again your brother doesn't know what he's talking about

does he listen to this hi he does Ant-Man though had a trailer oh yes big launch trailer yeah

some people were like that's pretty average some people were like Ant-Man what did you think of it I thought it was very sombre yep I thought it was very somber. Yep. I thought it was very serious.

There was a joke, maybe. There was two jokes, sort of. There was like that, huh? And then the kind of like... Can I change the name? Can I change the name? Yeah. Which I think that huh was kind of like to break the kind of somberness.

Yeah, right. And I think that the joke at the end was just like, we know is sounds dumb right right yeah come on yeah yeah just do you think what they may have done is they've just gotten in every like every time they fill the film the scene they got paul rudd like a one shot of paul rudd and he just goes huh like if they ever need to break the tension if they they run you know they they edit it all together and they're like some of these scenes are a little heavy. It's the comical look of Paul Rudd going, huh.

And people are like, oh, he's great. Oh, he's so good, that guy. So likeable. Yeah. Yeah. Possibly, sure.

Yeah, okay. But I feel like as well, you can't, do you remember Iron Man 3, the first trailer for that? Yep. Very somber. It was like,

everything's falling apart, my life's a mess. Yeah. I'm in the snow. And that was just like, there's a robot in my bed yeah and that just

that was like comical as so I wouldn't count on it they probably like the mainstream audience maybe doesn't want a wacky they don't want wacky superhero stuff they want

they want a standard issue kind of sort of sci-fi-ish drama kind of action drama I guess maybe yeah do you have faith in this movie being a good thing now that Edgar Wright has left?

Again, we've discussed this. That's right, everybody's talking about it forever. For all new listeners, Edgar Wright, director of Shaun of the Dead in Space, and other stuff, Hot Fuzz, Scott Pilgrim,

Scott Pilgrim, World's End, he was going to be directing this, and then he dropped out for various creative reasons that have not been clearly they talked about it a little bit this week it was basically

different directions essentially how dare a director have a different direction well I think a lot of what he contributed to that film the award he wanted

where he wanted to take it because he jumped on board in 2006 and that was before this universe was established that's true, yeah. So I think now you have to kind of tie everything in. Right now, his clashes a little.

Yeah, and that's the kind of, it feels like that's the condition of every one of these movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to hit certain beats. Yeah, and so I've said essentially, it's probably going to be a good movie. I'm going to enjoy it because it's got Paul Rudd and all that sort of stuff.

Marvel Universe is going to be great. But I don't know if I'm going to be 100 happy with it unless edgar wright comes in and says hey this is exactly how i would have done it well i've got some news for you oh yes edgar wright has not been credited for the screenplay oh apparently the rewrites that paul wright and adam mckay did who did ain Anchorman, is so extensive that they are the screenwriter who I credited for. Oh, interesting. Like he's credited as story ideas.

Right. But it sounds like that this is way different. Interesting. And what I think may, this is just me speculating. Yeah. Big time. Oh, yes.

Just so you know. Uh-huh. I feel like, because he made allusions to a few years back that you can change a character, like Hank Pym, and nobody's going to get upset because a lot of people don't know who Hank Pym is, for example. And it kind of, to me, the rumors were that Hank Pym was going to be like the bad guy. Uh-huh, yep.

And maybe because of what happened with the Mandarin. Yeah. Where they changed the Mandarin's origins so drastically that people flipped out. Yeah. I feel like maybe that was one of the... Maybe. And that's pure speculation. What do I know?

I only know Liam McIntyre. Yeah, it's true, yeah. I don't know, because, I mean, they did sort of extensively change Iron Man's backstory for the first one. Exactly, for the first one, when nobody knew anything about Iron Man. Right, right.

But I don't think people are watching the Marvel Cinematic Universe and then going, well, I better research these characters I disagree oh okay I reckon people are definitely doing that I reckon the amount of people

that are on board with Marvel comics and everybody's an expert now since this universe kicked off that's what I think yeah I think Guardians of the Galaxy

gets away with it because that's very obscure but Ant-Man is like a founding member like for your die-hard marvel fans or wikipedia fans like us totally i think though that hank pym is kind of a bad guy he is like he's he hit his wife and he's gone mad a lot of times yes like yeah i mean a lot of that was early day stuff but yeah like i think you could have you could have him go mad for two

hours yeah and then be like jeff bridge's iron man mad uh no like no yeah maybe yeah do you think the twist could be that douglas is the bad guy because some people have said that as well ah like he wants the yellow jacket armor or the ant-man armor for himself no because he's given away the ant-man armor i i think that do you think he's lost his company and this is a whole do you think the ant-man equipment is in his building it's possible yeah i think that might be part of it okay or maybe or maybe he has the old one and he wants the new one i don't know but i think there's going to be some stealing of the ant-man suit oh there's gonna be heaps of that yeah there. There's going to be some parkour. Not a crazy amount, but a little bit.

Enough. Yeah. Yeah, enough that you believe Paul Rudd could do it. When Ant-Man shrinks and drops from a great height, his legs obviously don't break. Correct. What's up? It's all very vague.

I'm sure... Two particles. We did an episode on it, actually. Yeah, we totally did. It's going to be very vague. He's tiny tiny but he retains his normal mass yeah some of the time yeah some of the time he doesn't sometimes he has enhanced strength sometimes he doesn't yeah exactly yeah yeah sometimes he flies on a little

flying ant yeah we saw a bit of that didn't we definitely yeah yeah uh well would you want to talk about the special effects in the trailer okay cool what do you think of the shrinking effect it looks like the gas it's a gassy effect doesn't it yeah yeah yeah because he's wearing the gas mask gassy yeah gassy you can kind of see that i did a effect? It looks like the gas. It's a gassy effect, isn't it? Yeah. Because he's wearing the gas mask. Gassy, yeah. Gassy. And you can kind of see that. I did a video, but you can see the gas when he's in the shower. Oh, yeah.

Could be steam. The shower's not on. I mentioned that in my video. Oh, yes. Oh, good. Count of points. Hang on, but it could have been. He could have switched it off.

Why would he? There's still a bit of steam. Why would he? Can you see an exhaust fan anywhere in the frame? No. In your face. Yeah, but I mean, the shrinking effect, such as it is, we don't really see it. No.

What you kind of do... I like the initial, you see him kind of... You see, as he gets smaller, everything around him kind of gets bigger. It seems more the thing in the bit in the shower does seem a little bit more like get smart in a in the phone booth yeah where don adams just drops to like he just lets go of his legs and just drops to a point where you can't see him anymore i feel that was the shrinking effect they're like okay rud we can't see below like your chest just drop out of frame is that actually what happens in Get Smart? I think so yeah

I mean obviously they didn't really build a floor of course it is of course it's that I'm an idiot you know Don Adams never watched an episode of Get Smart

good good on him because he hated the laugh track but he watched every episode of Inspector Gadget because he did the voice of Inspector Gadget oh yeah that's true

he didn't really watch oh he may have I don't know I hated Inspector Gadget yeah alright fine he's a dickhead no I also hated Inspector Gadget I wasn't going to go there but He's a dickhead. No, I also hated Inspector Gadget. I wasn't going to go there, but you're right.

Why? He's got all the amazing technology and he wastes it. He's an idiot. Yeah. And he always goes after the dog. He's dangerous. Yeah. Exactly.

He's got a laser in one of those videos. He doesn't know what's up with that. There's one scene in that. I think we've talked about this before. Don't care. There's one scene, there's one bit I like in every episode of, every Inspector Gadget I've seen, there's one bit I like in every episode of, every Inspector Gadget I've seen, there's one bit I like where, like, he goes, like, water skiing or something, and the bad guys, like, trap him underwater in, like, this iron cage kind of thing.

And he just kind of, like, he pulls the laser out and he cuts through the bars and he kind of just walks out like it's ain't no thing. Like, he actually uses his powers correctly. And I'm like, good. Apply that to the rest of your career he doesn't even he doesn't even know that he's done anything at the end

like the chief comes in and is like you've done it and it was clearly his niece and the dog that did it and he just takes credit he just goes

yep he's clearly insane exactly like what world does he live in he's got cyborg madness is what he has good live action adaptation

though no incorrect I haven't seen it do you mean the one with French Stewart I do yeah anyway He's got cyborg madness, is what he has. Good live action adaptation, though. No, incorrect. I haven't seen it. Do you mean the one with French Stewart? I do. Yeah. Anyway, do you think we're going to see some flashback-y Michael Douglas Ant-Man? They're going to have to euthyfy him, aren't they?

Or they'll just get another actor. Or they get old. He's just got a mask on. What if they get old Michael Douglas footage? What if they get Michael Douglas' son? What if they got Kirk Douglas? Is heouglas footage what if they get michael douglas's son what if they got kirk douglas is he dead i think he's still alive let's not look it up it's fine for those at home you're based in san slowly moved towards his ipad and then he shook his head yeah it's fine he's

probably i reckon he's still alive good day he's good he's really good kirk douglas he was spartacus like our friend liam mcintyre oh yes we know a lot good Kirk Douglas he was Spartacus like our friend Liam McIntyre oh yes we know a lot of people have been Spartacus we do yeah one guy I'm Spartacus

no just like the like the thing yeah so what do you yeah do you think it's good saying would you care that

Hank Pym's old no yeah look we're gonna have to make some concessions here sure like we can't

you can't compress 75 years of marvel comics into an ongoing like movie world it's not it's it's like we can't run it in real time it's not gonna happen it's a different universe so we're gonna have to we're gonna have to take some of these characters who are you know legacy characters or multiple yeah you know have had multiple identities or whatever, just chuck some of them. Yeah. It's going to have to happen. I think this is the first time I've actually done that as well. Well, I say more of them.

Every time. Every time. Just go to the kid Iron Man. Yeah. Yeah. There's actually a rumor about that. Iron Lad? You know the kid in Iron Man 3?

Yep. The rumor is that he will become Iron Man in 2019. Interesting. I know, that's true. I mean, who knows how that kid's going to grow up. A lot of these kid actors grow up to be gremlins. Correct. So you don't know.

Correct. Yeah. Because in the comics, wasn't it, the original Iron Man was a sleeper agent and they go back in time and get kid Iron Man to defeat future Iron Man. Yeah, in the comic books in the 90s i want to say late 90s yeah yeah it turned out that kang the conqueror who's time traveler went back

in time and drove iron man insane and he became a villain yes for like decades or whatever nobody noticed yeah and then why not i don't know so So then... Because there it is. And then so they had to go back in time and retrieve Kid Iron Man. Yeah. Like the teenage one. Yeah. And then he... They brought him into the present.

And then future Iron Man like shot him in the heart. So he had to get the repulsor unit in his heart. What are the odds? I know, right? What a weird coincidence that that particular character would have that particular flaw again right and then he

then he became the head of Stark Enterprises and he built the suit and whatever yeah and there's a scene where he goes to a house party where that song

What If God Was One Of Us is playing over the speakers what's that it's a highlight of that you know that song I know but why is that I don't know because it was popular at the time

it probably was popular like two years prior to that I was going to say yeah because of the late 90s when was that I the time. It probably was popular like two years prior to that. I was going to say, yeah. Because of the late 90s. When was that? I want to say that song was like 97. Yeah, probably.

Whatever. Great song. Great. What if God was one of us? I don't know. Anyway. That guy we heard have to change his t-shirt. Ah, that's true.

To the left. To the left. To the left or right. Yeah. And then eventually there was the onslaught thing. And then he went through a dimensional portal. I mean, when he came back, he was just regular Iron Man. And just status quo.

Yeah, he was just like, I guess the people of Marvel Universe, like the whole, the general public and all the legal people were just like, oh yeah, we have this every day. So hang on a minute. So present day Iron Man is not the original Iron Man. Well, technically. Does he retain the So present day Iron Man is not the original Iron Man. Well, technically. Does he retain the memories of insane Iron Man? I think he's got...

Not that this will ever come up in the comics. No, I don't think he does. Okay. I think he's just got... I think the timeline was just cleaned up. Like, because Franklin Richard, who can alter reality. Yeah. I think he just altered it all.

Sure. It's fine again. Just like, look, I've got this. Just everybody just relax. Yeah. I'm a 12 year old with godlike powers that can alter reality. Yeah. I think he just altered it all. Sure. So he's fine again. Just like, look, I've got this. Everybody just relax. Yeah. I'm a 12-year-old with godlike powers that can alter reality. I'll take care of it. Bloody Kang, mate.

Yeah, I know, right? I can't trust him. He's just getting into it, isn't he? Yeah, yeah. Anyway. What are we talking about? Ant-Man. Paul Rudd's...

I've got an email here from Adam West. Oh, yes. Friend of the show, Adam West. Friend of the show, Adam West. Not the Adam West, but the Adam West. The Adam West. Oh, yes. Friend of the show, Adam West. Friend of the show, Adam West. Not the Adam West, but the Adam West. The Adam West, exactly. Who's actually,

his birthday is at some point around now. So happy birthday, Adam West. Happy birthday, Adam West. Yeah. I'd like to know what you guys think, if you guys think Paul Rudd

is going to be very Paul Ruddy in this movie, like many of his previous characters. I think he's going to provide a Ruddy great performance. Right? Yep. Yep.

And if you're okay with that I think you might come across as too much like Tony Stark if this is the case. Also I was wondering how much you think his daughter will play into his character. And we haven't had a father superhero on the MCU yet that we know about. So

first question there. You okay with his Paul Ruddiness? I think he's going to tone it down. He's as charming as Tony Stark or Robert Downey Jr., but less of an arsehole. That's how I perceive Paul Rudd in general. Yeah, and also because he's not... And I like Robert Downey Jr. He's not incredibly rich.

He's not positioned as this guy who's got it all kind of thing. He's a guy, he may be charming, but he's also super down on his luck yeah have we had the discussion about who they're going to replace iron man with when robert downey jr stops doing those movies yeah that kid we just had it no but i mean we have i think we've spoke about and like whether or not people would want to see an old iron man yeah yeah or would they would you swap out would they swap him i think they're going to be like i think iron man's going to fly off into the sunset or whatever. Into the sun.

Directly into the sun. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, look, I think once you replace one of the big characters, like you replace a Thor or a Captain America, and I'm not talking about you replacing for a different character, you recast them. I'm not talking like, what's his name, War Machine, because that was a kind of a minor casting thing at the time. It would be a bigger deal now i think once one happens yep it'll all start to

happen i don't think they're gonna recast oh really i'm saying i think they're gonna get they're gonna turf that iron man okay sure let's be like well he's retiring and now we're gonna bring in kid iron man kid iron man precisely yeah look i i think that would be cool anyway paul ruddiness i think he's toned it way down. Yes. Like, I think in other films, if he's going to sell, like, in other films, if he was going to say, can you change the name, you know,

he'd sell it much more Paul Ruddy. Yeah. But he's really toned this back. He'd have, like, a cabinet that he'd open and there'd be a series of male colognes. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Did you say male cologne? You probably just say cologne, can't you? Probably just say cologne, yeah.

Yeah, fair enough. And what about the thing about his daughter? We haven't had a character, I think, with a daughter, again, that we know about. That we know about. Wink. Yeah, I think it's going to be a major role. It was always... That was the original impetus for Scott Lang in the comics to be Ant-Man in the first place.

Exactly. That element's clearly heavily borrowed. And I would say it's going to be... He has to step up and be a man to be a hero

for his daughter because she believes in him or whatever. In the comic, she's got a heart disease and he has to rescue a scientist using a strong suit.

I'm going to say maybe the technology to save her is in the Pym building. Sure. But he can't get... Nobody can get to it because Pym's been frozen out.

It's on a big shelf. It's on a really big shelf, exactly, yeah. If only Stiltman were there. If only, yeah. Get on it, Daredevil season two. So yeah, I like that element. I think it adds a, it makes him sympathetic in a different way to what we've seen. Like Captain America's sympathetic because he's a super nice guy and he's out of his

depth, or he's out of his era, sorry, and everybody he knows is right or or super old sure or bucky who hates him sure yeah and you know you know or a computer or a computer yes bloody zola yeah you wouldn't want to see him again would you yeah so yeah i think it's a good way i think it's a good way to make it like a sympathetic kind of character because hank pym like you said is a is a jerk yeah so if you want someone more he's like a reed richards like he's so obsessed with his work and whatever he's he doesn't think of the consequences of things like a real michael douglas incorrect yeah what about the suit uh a little rubber isn't it well it's like it's from the 60s or whatever. Yeah, true, yeah.

Maybe he'll get a, do you think he'll get a new one at the end? Yeah, possibly. Yeah. I liked it though. Yeah, nice 60s kind of vibe. Yeah, yeah. I think it was cool. Yeah. It's like a wetsuit with some stuff on it.

Yeah, we don't really see it do much. No. Do you think it's got like a zap gun in it? It might have a zap gun. Zap gun. Sometimes he has a little laser gun, doesn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes he has a little rope.

Might have a rope to rope a, like a big cockroach or something yeah yeah absolutely but yeah I think I've mentioned this briefly before um yeah with the 1960s stuff would you like to see a young Michael Douglas running about oh yeah we doing a mission ah yes I would like to yeah that would be cool I think you could tie that into maybe not agent Carter because it's the bat they're about 20 years apart because Hank Pym in this versions we would be from the 60s or 70s yes that's when his into maybe not agent carter because it's about they're about 20 years apart because uh hank pym in this version he'd be from the 60s or 70s yes that's when his prime was i'd imagine this is interesting too because this implies that there is there were superheroes yeah stuff was going on

before iron man yeah which is so in in terms of time we might have in agent carter we might have we might do you think we'll see some early superheroes? Yeah, definitely. But are they going to be good ones? Because how many good ones ultimately happen between... Well, we can get to that when we talk about Agent Carter, which is the next thing we're going to talk about. Oh, yes.

One more thing. I like when the shrinking effect, all the small particles that you see and the focus, like the way the camera's focused, how everything in the background looks super you see and that the focused, like the, the way it's cut, the camera's focused, how everything in the background looks super far away and you can see like little dust particles and stuff. I like that. Great. You didn't like it.

I was ambivalent. What else happened in that trailer? Anything else exciting? No, not really. You don't say Evangeline Lilly. She's daughter of Hank Pym. Yeah.

Yeah. Who she's Hope Van Dyne or Janet Van Dyne. she's Hope Van Dyne. Or Janet Van Dyne. She's Hope. Hope Van Dyne. Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. That's cool. She might be the wasp.

Yeah, could be. And the CEO guy that's Yellow Jacket. Yeah, Corey Stoll. Okay. Darren Cross in the movie. There you go. Okay, cool. And have you seen the images of that guy's suit?

No. He's got like a real techie kind of Yellow Jacket suit. Okay, so that's good. Okay. And he's got like extra arms and stuff. Right, right. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah.

All right. Yeah. Two thumbs up from us. Yep. Just together, collectively. Oh, you want each? Yeah, cool. No, I like it.

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So anyway, this week in TV, this week in TV, sort of the incredible weapons and artifacts of a genius are sort of scattered all over the world and it's up to like a sexy super spy to act as a double agent and retrieve them all. Correct.

But enough about reruns of Alias. Am I right? Am I right? It's the same show. It's exactly the same show. I haven't seen a lot of Alias. Is that what Alias is about? It's exactly the same.

No shit. There's like a renaissance era inventor called Rimbaldi, right? Like a Da Vinci kind of character who created all these devices and weapons and things like that and the bad guys want to get them all because they're around the world right and so uh what's her face alias alias ms alias jennifer garner that's jennifer garner she is a double agent because she's working for a like she used to be working for a terrorist organisation

that pretended they were part of the CIA. Yeah. And then she figured that out and then she became a double agent. Was it the sign on the door? Yeah, it was the sign on the door. We're not really the CIA, lol. And then she had to... So she went to the real CIA.

Yeah. Like, I'm going to work with you guys and then we're going to foil all their plans kind of thing. Cool. Same show. Same show. Yeah. Never even realised. Well, who made... No, J.J. Abrams. I was going to say Joss Whed of thing. Cool. Same show. Same show. Yeah. Never even realized.

Well, who made, no, J.J. Abrams. I was going to say Joss Whedon, but no, he didn't make that, did he? No, that's right. Abrams. Yeah. Take that, Abrams. Take that, Abrams. Well, I guess Abrams is with Marvel.

Abrams is with Disney and Disney's whatever. Yep. All right, what do you think? So did that annoy you? Not really. I mean, it's different enough. Yeah, sure. So far.

But it is, like, A-List was just a succession of, it was her putting on a succession of different wigs and dresses. Yes. And going to a location and beating people up. Yes. And taking a thing. And that was, that happened, didn't it?

Yeah, didn't it, yeah. Well, look, it's solid ratings, apparently. Not great. This is via Josh Wilding of ComicBookMovie.com. He's a good dude. You should follow him on Twitter. Nah. He's a good dude, Mason. I'm not fine, apparently. Not great. This is via Josh Wilding of ComicBookMovie.com. He's a good dude. You should follow him on Twitter. Nah. He's a good dude, Mason.

I'm not fine, God. But people, though, the response was genuinely positive. Yeah. I wasn't watching it, but I had my Twitter stream up as it was happening. There was a lot of people shouting the Ant-Man trailer. Because the Ant-Man trailer was premiering at the same time. They left it until after it finished, after the two-hour premiere. People were losing their minds

over it. But a lot of people were also like, I tuned in to see the Ant-Man trailer, but this is a great show, and whatever. So I think, generally, the responses and the reviews that I read have been pretty good. I think as well, this has a bigger budget

than Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Yes. But I think that comes down to this is only eight episodes, which is great because a lot of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., especially season one, is just filler.

And they've got the budget, I think maybe even a budget the same as Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in eight episodes. Interesting. Okay. Which I feel like, well, you'd need that to make it. Costumes. Costumes, period. Costumes, period. the same as agents of shield in eight episodes interesting okay which i think you can i know i feel like well you'd need that to make your costumes costumes costumes period sets whatever

yeah typewriters glowy balls glowy balls a whole truck full of glowy balls yeah but i like that like like you know there was the explosions that they're in it quite good as well yeah because often tv, not as good. Correct. But yeah. Yeah, you're right though. Getting that period accurate stuff is very, very difficult. Do you like the character of Peggy Carter though, don't you?

Yes. Yeah. She's good, isn't she? She's an actress. Actor, sorry. Yes. Everybody's an actor now. Correct.

Yeah, yeah. She can clearly carry the show. You definitely can. Yeah, yeah. So much so that I... How are the rest of the characters? Oh! Name another character.

Howard Stark. He's probably not going to be in it that much. Okay, how about this? This guy's really good. Jarvis. Yeah, he was pretty good. I thought he was great. He was certainly very British.

He was, wasn't he? And that's now put paid to everybody's fan theories that Tony Stark actually has a butler called Jarvis that lives in his basement that operates all his Iron Man stuff. Oh, yeah, exactly. Our famous fan theory. Yes, that's right.

Unless there's another theory that combines the two. Email us in and let us know. No! Okay, don't do that. So, yeah, but you're right. The men that she works with in the agency, very kind of like they're fine

they're serviceable the dude with the one leg legless Joe legless Joe do you reckon they're going to end up getting married she mentions that her husband was saved by Captain America

oh okay that happens in Winter Soldier you see a clip where she like a newsreel oh yeah she mentions it so it could be that guy

could be that Chad Michael Murray guy whatever his name is the dude from this show about basketball. I don't want to be anything other than... One Tree Hill. Right, yeah. Okay, good. Is that about basketball?

Yes. Probably. Okay. Yeah, it was. Some of it. Yeah, what about him? Legless Joe. No, yeah.

Well, them. Those guys. All them guys. All those team. The team of interchangeable guys. Yeah. If they swapped out some of the actors, like let's say they swapped out two of the actors No, yeah, well, them, those guys, all them guys. All those team, the team of interchangeable guys. Yeah. If they swapped out some of the actors, like, let's say they swapped out two of the actors of those SSR guys, would you notice?

Episode two. No. Good. Good. It was a test. Well, yeah, they seemed good. Yeah. I mean, there's going to be a lot of, what are you doing, Peggy? You're just a lady in this man's world.

But did you like how she used that to her advantage? Like, she'd bring them coffee and be like, now I'm listening'm listening that's true but do you think that's going to be i hope i hope that stops yeah i feel like they kind of that that that wears thin yes and i feel like they they jumped on that in the agent carter one shot yes that's true which is obviously set before they sort of underestimated her and they crushed crushed him. Exactly. But even there, they're still kind of underestimating her. But, yeah, I feel, I hope they put a stop to that. That would be nice.

But, anyway, whatever. Howard Stark. Yes. Do you say, is he not that charming? I just, there's some, no, is it just me? I don't think he's very good.

No, that's not the right word. I don't know. The problem is that he has to sort of, very good. No, that's not the right word. I don't know. He's the, the problem is that he has to sort of, he has to ape Tony Stark. Yeah. Do you make him more charming? Yeah.

Or do you make him less charming because Tony's the more charm, like it's tough, like it's tough to say. Yeah. And his mustache isn't as good. That's a thing. Definitely. And Dominic Cooper is a good actor.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know. I feel like he doesn't quite, because he's British, he hasn't quite nailed the accent, that kind of, hey, dollar, you know, that kind of thing. And also he has to do period dialogue. Yeah. And like a sort of a period New York-y kind of accent, right?

Yeah. So he's got those working against him, I think. Yeah. Gotham came back this week. Who cares? Did it really? Yeah. So he's got those working against him, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Gotham came back this week. Who cares? Did it really? Yes. Wow.

There was some poison ivy. Oh. The little kid. Yeah. There's some Arkham stuff. I don't care. It was all right. Was he a good Arkham guard or whatever?

Yeah, he was pretty good. Okay. He was pretty good. He was solid. Great. Yeah. Fantastic. When do you think he's going to get out of Arkham?

Like three episodes. Great. That's too many episodes. I'll be honest with you. Okay. He was pretty good. He was solid. Great. Fantastic. When do you think he's going to get out of Arkham? Like three episodes. Great. That's not, it's too many episodes. I'll be honest with you. Let's make it next episode if you're listening. Hang on. More about how, we should discuss Howard Stark more. Okay, sure.

All right. Okay. He's all like, hey doll, I'm getting on a boat. That's all I got. Well, he, yeah, well he's. Because do you make him more, because he's a genius, obviously. Yeah. He's kind of the playboy womanizer.

Yeah. He invents the the playboy womanizer. Yeah, he invents the repulsor things. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, do you make him less charming than Tony Stark because Tony Stark was born into money? Yeah. And so he's kind of inherently an asshole. Yeah. But then again, Tony Stark is also a genius.

Yeah. And so he's built on his father's company. Yeah. So maybe... Yeah. You're right. I don't know. Yeah. It's a fine line. It really is. I think Dominic Cooper is kind of damned if. So maybe, yeah. You're right. I don't know. Yeah.

He's got, this is, it's a fine line. It really is. I think Dominic Cooper is kind of damned if he doesn't, damned if he doesn't. And look, he's not bad. He's certainly not bad. But I feel like he's not going to be in this that much either. I feel like he's going to kind of swim in and out. That's what I figure, yeah.

Like a fish. Yeah. Like a fish on TV though. A television fish. Yes. Yeah. What about Whiplash's dad? Oh, yes.

Venko or something? Venko. Well, he's Anton Venko. Yes. Because's dad oh yes Venko something Venko well he's Anton Venko yes because he sounds that's right yes that's right yeah

so he's working with Stark apparently yeah yeah yeah drinking his Hydra oh good question there's some kind of conspiracies in there I'll be honest

oh there definitely is I didn't really spoiler alert everybody yeah spoiler alert it's online whatever yeah do you think people listen to this show before they watch an episode of something we talk about?

I think that happens a lot. Okay, great. Yeah. Yeah, so. Maybe it's because they're like, well, it can't be worse than how they've described it. They've described this very poorly. So if I watch it, I'll be pleasantly surprised. But yeah, there's obviously some

kind of conspiracy but i don't think it's a because at the end jarvis is like oh you've selected a good one she has doesn't suspect a thing yeah uh but i don't think that's because he's a bad guy no definitely not that's a clear fake out yeah something very minor yeah you know yeah like maybe he sold them on purpose and didn't realise that it was the wrong guys or whatever. Right, exactly, yeah. It's like that other show. Alias.

Aliens, too. Correct. Resurrection. The action's good, though. Let me think. The fisty punches. Fisty punches are good, yeah. Yeah, like she can really fight.

Like she looks like she can fight. Yeah, true. So that's great. And I like that action sequence that was intercut with the Captain America radio play. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And that's a nice little nod to Captain America. Yeah, true.

The man. You're right in that she doesn't look fragile. No. But they haven't gone... They've given her a decent fighting style that doesn't rely on her like just... Doing a Matrix kick. Doing a Matrix kick or like, you know,

hitting somebody with a force of like a Captain America or something like that. Yeah. Where you go, how did that... Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. She'll grab something and whatever. Yeah, they've factored in her strengths and weaknesses

kind of thing. And she's a trained fighter and that kind of thing so that that works that's cool she looks good as a blonde too yeah boy series of wigs you know what i've just got here though as well it's it's fun like it's a fun kind of romp yep and i'm so glad that it's only eight episodes yes i just just get it get it done get it done You know what I mean? I think a lot of these shows could be eight episodes. Pour everything into the eight episodes. Yeah. I don't need to see 22 episodes of this.

Right, right. You know? I was having a discussion with somebody about this the other day. American TV seems to be experimenting with episode numbers. Yes. Like, I think they've gone,

okay, well, all British TV shows are six episodes or eight episodes. Yeah. We want to be better than them. But it would be more advantageous for us to do less episodes. Yeah. So we see a lot of 10 episodes. Yeah, exactly. You know, 12 episodes, stuff like that.

Yeah, like your Fargo, your bloody... House of Cards, was that short? Yeah, House of Cards is short. Game of Thrones is 10, right? Game of Thrones is 10. I'll never know. The bloody True Detective is like 8 or 10 or whatever. Yeah.

That's cool. I like it. Because I feel like I'd rather watch 8 episodes of Fargo than 50 episodes of NCIS. Yeah, exactly. Which I don't think I've ever seen a full episode of. I've seen a lot of episodes of that back in the day. It's like the same show, isn't it? Every week.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh boy. Hayley Atwell actually has spoken about the show and the direction it's going to take. I've got a quote here

from Hayley Atwell herself. It's exciting the direction it takes. It's really clever the way the writers stayed on top of everything. Just when the audience goes, all right,

I know what this show is, it goes in a different direction. So this is going to apparently do some kind of dog-leg turn. Oh, yes. That'd be cool. Yeah this is going to apparently do some kind of dogleg turn. Oh, yes. So that'd be cool. Yeah, okay.

Yeah. It'll probably be Hydra. No. It's almost Hydra. No, I hope it's something good. Like, I'd love to see, like, Bucky turn up. Oh, yeah. How cool would that be?

Yeah. You know, here's the thing about... The modern-day Peggy Carter doesn't remember anything. Yeah. So you can technically put anything in the show. Yeah, good point. How about this? Time travel episode meets up with Chris Evans again.

That would be great. Modern day Captain America. That would be awesome. They meet up and then he goes back to post Captain America 2. Yeah. But she doesn't remember it. Like she does at the time. Yeah.

But by the time Captain America 2 rolls around, she doesn't remember it anymore. That would be totally awesome. That would be totally awesome. But then time travel. Well, time jam. It's going to she doesn't remember it anymore. That would be totally awesome. It would be totally awesome. But then time travel. Well, time jam. It's going to all come in. Time jam. Good point.

I want to see them get together. It's all I want in my life. Yeah, exactly. Because, you know, her niece. Because if he goes back in time post Captain America 2, then he can still be sad in Captain America 2. Yeah. But then he goes back in time and he's happy again.

Exactly. I'd like to see her brought to the present day and just be like, now she's here. It doesn't make any sense and it would ruin everything. And it would ruin the character of Captain America. Yes. Because you just give him everything that he wants. Right, yeah. And that doesn't make anything interesting.

But it would be nice, exactly. It's just all I want. You want... Iron Man flies into the sun. Captain America gets... Captain America shows up at a cafe. He's got a wry little smile, he's in Rome or whatever

he's next to Michael Caine and then Hayley Atwell's there he does a running kind of shield here to Christian Bale that'd be great steals his table also we can do like original Human Torch, because they own that

because he's at that Stark Expo from the 40s. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I don't remember that at all. He's in like, oh no, there's the proto vision there, like the animatronic man or something. And I think there's a reference to the Original Human Torch. Do they call him the Original Human Torch? What we have here is the Original Human Torch.

Possibly. Yeah. I guess so. Maybe they can't can't say human torch i think they can't i'm pretty sure they specifically they can say jim hammond because that's his i'm fairly certain he's he's specifically like reference like you see either you see it or somebody is it a glass case might be something like that i don't know it was something like that we could look it up but somebody somebody screen cap and send it to us yes via twitter yeah at mr sunday movies at the weekly planet pod would you like to Something like that. We could look it up. But somebody screen capped it and sent it to us. Yes, via Twitter. Yeah. At MrSundayMovies. At Wikipedia.

At Weekly Planet Pod. Would you like to see a baby Tony Stark? It's too early anyway. Yeah, it's too early. Because he'd be... He's probably about 45, would you say? Yeah. Maybe closer to 50. Yeah, so he hasn't been born for nearly 20 years.

Yeah. Time travel, though. Time travel! Yeah. Time travel, so you just... So baby Tony Stark goes back to the 40s. Yeah, exactly. And they're like, well, this baby's a real smug prick, isn't he? And then back to the future.

That's it. I forgot to mention that Peggy Carter is, well, she's in Age of Ultron, but there's rumors that she's in Ant-Man. John Slattery is apparently in Ant-Man. As old Howard Stark. As old Howard Stark. Zy is apparently in Ant-Man as old Howard Stark Zola is apparently in it this is rumours

and there's somebody Douglas obviously I reckon Ultron would give Zola a new body like he survived somehow yeah like on that USB stick

or whatever and he's given like I reckon he might be even given TV in the chest apparently Zola not Zola I saw a promo thing for Ultron And he's given like, I reckon he might be even given TV in the chest. Apparently Zola, not Zola, I saw a promo thing for Ultron. Apparently he is also, some of the code from him originally came from Chitauri Tech. Oh, interesting. So there's a mix of that as well, which explains why he's a lunatic.

Yeah. Yeah. So, because they're like just screaming lizard men, aren't they? Yeah, pretty much. In the Ultimate Universe, they're like just screaming lizard men aren't they yeah pretty much in the ultimate universe they're the they're the scrolls yeah but they're they don't own the scrolls yeah yeah so now they're different yeah yeah jang jang actually mentioned a few characters he wanted to use in guardians of the galaxy one of them was the badoon but they don't own the badoon oh yep and he mentioned a few other they don't own who's the the bug the guy who's in the

guardians of the galaxy the bug guy oh you who's in the Guardians of the Galaxy? The bug guy. Oh, your bug man. What's his name? Can't remember. Might just be Bug. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, and they can't use him either.

That's a shame. And there's a few others, but whatever. So that's why they swapped out. He said he did a search and replace for Badoon for... Who did they end up using? Just the Kree all the time? The Kree, yeah. Yeah, okay.

So that's what he did for the script. He just... The Kree are better, though, I think. Yeah, sure, whatever. The Badoon are more kind of like this. Yeah, exactly. More of that. Yeah.

Exactly. Yeah. I want to see Bucky. Okay. Well, he'd have to be... You can even have him slip back into his old personality. That's happened in the comics before as well. Like, he's met Black Widow. Yeah, yeah. And he kind of snaps and he kind of snaps out of it and then they get him and they brainwash him

again yeah true so that would be cool yeah yeah but again that's true like he could only really appear once or twice though yeah because he's they he only gets unfrozen like every few years yeah so that'd be great yeah okay i'll say that meet yeah yeah eight episodes i mean who knows we probably probably won't probably won't say cool if we did yep all right i think that's pretty much it from agent carter though oh yes we talked about that uh disappointing part for me andre royo as spider who's the andre ruer the concert yeah yeah the violin the violin the famous violin man that by mums everywhere uh

now Andre Royo was in The Wire he played Bubbles he was like a recovering heroin addict okay yeah yeah uh and he was Spider Who's the Fence

in oh yeah with the white jacket yeah yeah yeah he's in that and he does I would have liked him to be in more episodes

maybe he'll be back time travel oh good point yeah good point we can fix everything yeah I saw that and I was like

oh cool he'll be in stuff I didn't actually and I was like, oh, cool. He'll be in stuff. I didn't actually know he was from The Wire. But no, apparently not. Yeah. Dead. You know what?

I've got a lot of trepidation. If Marvel finds out that they can just change everything with time travel, it might be a disaster. Yeah. Now that I think about it. Cool. Well, one thumbs up between us. I really liked it. Yeah. Look, I think about it. Cool. Well, one thumbs up between us. I really liked it. Yeah, look, I liked it. But you know how it's been with liking pilots of things before.

Yeah. But I feel like as well, if they've got eight episodes, that's a good thing. Yeah, definitely. For you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. You know what it's time for, Mason?

What's it time for? What we reading. Oh, what we gonna read. Yeah, nice. Theme. I'm doing a theme. What are we reading today? Diego, Diego asked.

Oh, yes. Whether there's a little laugh at the end of the what we reading theme. I think where I go like, like that. That's in the theme. That's not me doing it every week so just so you know Mason you don't listen to this

no what are you reading? I'm not listening now well do you want me to go what are we reading first? yeah go ahead I've got some well I've been reading

oh okay yeah me? well actually we mentioned it last week so this doesn't really count but I've I'm caught up on Injustice oh me too

it's been recommended but it's good it's very good because I heard earlier like the first couple episodes issues of that yeah camp but i've i'm caught up on injustice oh me too it's good but it's good it's it's very good because i heard earlier like the first couple episode issues of that yeah people were not keen on it yeah and i think it's just because it's such a it's a radical departure well it's not even a radical it's an alternate dimension really like it's an unpleasant world yes because it's very much like the irredeemable world yeah Yeah. Like it's for, just spoilers for like the first issue or first two issues, Superman

does kill his own wife and unborn child. Yeah. Thinking that they're doomsday. Yeah. And then Metropolis is destroyed with a nuclear weapon. Yeah. So that's, that is unpleasant. And then he puts his arm through the Joker.

Oh yeah, he pulls the Joker's heart out. So it's like, it's, that's quite an unpleasant kind of gruesome world yeah and so i think uh initially people like what's going to be based on a video game that's kind of a gross storyline yeah it's not going to be any good it's not real in the dc canon yeah exactly but on but that actually works in its favor yeah like it's because you can do things that you wouldn't you can kill a bunch of characters kill a bunch of like uh there's a lot more sort of intrigue and political issues. Yeah.

Like, more complicated than you'd think for something based on a video game. There's not really anything based on a video game. The characters show up, they do their moves from the video game, and then the series is over, right? Yeah. It's exactly like that. But there's more intrigue. You're right.

They can do anything with the characters. They can kill anyone. They can introduce different versions of the characters. Yeah. we see a lot of characters that aren't in the video game you see a johnny constantine you see johnny constantine he's great he's uh in character which is nice you see a lot of yeah see a lot of magic people yeah and ultimately they're all doomed because they're not in the video game well maybe they'll be in the sequel oh yeah they're making a sequel yeah okay so yeah yeah but anybody's anybody's at risk and it's quite like it's it's kind of like except for the people in the first video yeah they're all

fine um but it's kind of you know it's the storyline is more complex like it's you know superman can put his foot down and say i'm ending all war in the world yeah but you know in a worse comic book that'd be it kind of thing. But in this, you know, the issues that have created the war in the first place are still in place. Yeah. And it's not... That hatred or whatever is still simmering underneath.

And it's not suddenly Batman is opposed. Like, he's always opposed, but he doesn't... That slowly happens. Yeah, it's a slow burn. They drift apart and then certain people die and whatever. And then Superman kind of goes fully the way he is and Batman grabs people die and and whatever and then superman kind of goes fully the way he is and batman grabs his crew and it's on i'm actually doing a video actually this will be out when people hear it uh best batman superman fights oh yes i've been

reading every batman superman fight comic i can find right there's a lot of not as good ones yeah is there a lego superman and batman fight sure there is. Great. You better get on that, mate. It's a tough list to make though. Cause I'm actually, I don't normally rank them, but I'm actually ranking those ones. So yeah.

You got a favorite? I'm going to, I'm going to give you the hot tip. Your ranking's wrong, mate. People on the internet are going to say. I've tried to also factor in, cause I asked people like,

and I'll try to factor in what people like as well, as well as my own. Oh yes. Take. Take. Whatever. It's not going to be my own. Oh, yes. Take, but whatever. Yeah, cool. It's not going to be right regardless. That's why I don't like ranking things. Yeah, I can tell.

Yeah. But no, let's just say that Injustice may make it on the list, Mason. It does. Oh. I actually read also Ant-Man issue one, which is a new Scott Lang comic. Oh, yes. He's back from the dead. I think he was dead for a while.

He was. Yeah. Did I explain comic. Oh, yes. He's back from the dead. I think he was dead for a while. He was, yeah. He's time traveling. Oh, really? Not in this, but in his daughter goes to the past and brings him to the present or something. Okay. Yeah, or something like that.

Kang the Conqueror style. Kang the Conqueror style. And yeah, it's basically, he's back to his kind of roots where his daughter's at high school and his ex-wife hates him and he doesn't have a job and he tries to work for tony stark

and tony stark's like you're kind of a flake and whatever you're not even real you're not even a real scientist ultimately and he's like exactly he's like you're kind of unreliable and he's like tony stark's like the worst yeah how dare he call me unreliable but it's good and it's it's like four or five bucks but it's like it's quite lengthy which is which is good for the first issue so yeah i would say if you if you want to see some Ant-Man and you don't know anything about Ant-Man I'd say it's a good place if you want to read some Ant-Man

it's a good place to start nice, cool also, Comic Book Resources released their top 100 comic books of the year like not individual issues but just series when not a comic book what?

I transcribe these with pictures every week oh then I can't explain that anyway it's a pretty good list like it's it's a top 100 series

yeah I guess there's a lot of comic books come out in a year yes but it's quite a good list Ms Marvel is number one

oh good wait can I see the cover of that I can't remember whether I've read it I haven't read it that's one of the ones I've got to read

yeah that's a good one Saga I'm a big fan of that Saga can't remember whether I've read it. I haven't read it. That's one of the ones I've got to read. The Lightning Bolt. Yeah, that's a good one. Saga, I'm a big fan of that. Saga's great. Anyway, check this out. Can you read me the top ten? Okay, yeah. Ms. Marvel 1.

Yep. Saga. Yep. Great. The Multiversity, which I don't think is finished yet. I've read one issue. Yeah. And I've got to read the rest.

Pretty good. Moon Knight is great. I'm reading it at the moment. The Warren Ellis version is great. I don't like the next storyline set as much

is this is that the Warren Ellis one well yeah it's the first year oh the first year okay sorry the opening stuff I think is super good

but yeah it's still good the next season's still good but I think Warren Ellis has a certain knack for reading for writing

comics comics certainly but like just crazy outlier kind of characters moon night is definitely that uh sex criminals was good that's great right so lumberjanes it's it's an all ages book and it's about um these five girls oh you know we're all very different but they're a summer camp and the summer camp is filled with crazy supernatural stuff cool

and it's super fun and supernatural seven is lazarus which is a sci-fi book that i've heard nothing about into that uh eight is afterlife with archie which is supposed to be amazing apparently archie's gone like a lot of stuff has been happening in archie in the last couple of years like i've seen the fringes of it but like a lot of crazy stuff like there was was a... Like... Isn't he dead? Yeah, like he's been... Like the Archie universe. There's like the regular Archie universe, which is the kids one, which is everybody's having fun and going and... I'm getting a milkshake.

Getting a milkshake. Exactly. Going to Pop's chocolate shop. I know a lot about Archie. Anyway. One of your favourite comics is Archie and the Punisher. Yeah, exactly. It's a great one.

But yeah, like there's separate ones where there's like... There was a series called Life with Archie where it went into two parallel universes one where he married betty one where he married veronica and they had like real life troubles and i think he gets he gets shot to death or something anyway this is he trapped in a hell of his own bank yeah i guess so but yeah um but anyway afterlife with archie uh yeah it's it's apparently a little bit disturbing. Okay. Yeah, so that's good.

Let's see. Nine is The Wicked and the Divine, which is about gods coming to Earth and inhabiting human bodies every... Get out of our bodies, gods. That's what I say. Thank you. Exactly.

If only somebody had said that in the book. But it's about every hundred years they come to Earth and they inhabit the bodies and then they sort of live these rock star lives and then they die again. And that's kind of... That sounds like an amazing thing to do. Exactly.

And number 10 is She-Hulk. Okay, cool. Solid. I should read more She-Hulk. I've never read a bad She-Hulk book. Really? Wow. Yeah, I know, right?

What's number 11? Is it the Weekly Planet? Yeah, it's the Weekly Planet podcast. What is it actually? I don't know. Let me check. No, I thought Witches would be on there. I've never heard about Witches. Oh, that's just started. just started something like three yeah wow too early to say okay hang on it's

loading it's loading floating uh hawkeye yeah actually life is a weapon i'm reading that also at the moment right i'm reading a lot of stuff these are really good second number 12 is seconds which i didn't love haven't read that's the by the scott pilgrim guy oh right yeah you mentioned that actually i mentioned it. Yeah. Also, people wrote in to say they didn't enjoy it either. So, I didn't recommend it. I just said I was reading it.

This segment's called What I Read and What I Gotta Read, or whatever it's called. It's not called What I Recommendin'. All right? What I've Gotta Recommend. Yeah. And there's a whole bunch of other stuff. Anyway, just look that up. All right, I will. Charles White has a recommendation.

Oh, yes. He gave us a few, but the one that I picked out is a Cletus Kasady... Carnage. Axis Carnage story. It's brutal and funny. It's where Cletus Kasady grows a conscience after a massive battle between heroes and villains of the Marvel Universe. He wants to be good, but he keeps being brutal and killing or horribly maiming people.

Fun romp recommended. Sounds like a fun romp. Yes. P.S. Mason, you're a dickhead. Give me some of that Nazi gold. You can't have any of my Nazi gold. Okay.

Okay, good. Good reference. You can't have any. And this is from Dom. Hi, guys. My name is Dom. I live in Pittsburgh. I was wondering if you guys

could say your thoughts on Batman The Long Halloween. This isn't a what we're reading. Just generally. Yeah, sure. It's one of your faves, right? It is. I personally think it's an amazing story

and one of my favorites. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Also, could I It's one of your faves, right? It is. I personally think it's an amazing story and one of my favorites. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Also, could I be the official Subway sub of the podcast? Yeah. Yeah, sure. Do you like Subway? Sort of. Terrible bread.

We've had this conversation a lot in our real lives. Like dozens of times. It's always exactly the same. If the bread's good, the sandwich is good. All the condiments and all the meat, it's fine. It's just whatever. I find with Subway, whatever I order, no matter what it is is and i've said this to you before that's the sound of literally thousands of people switching did you hear that go on now we're alone let's have the conversation

we always have when we're alone about subway sandwiches it's always exactly the same it tastes the same no matter what i get huh i don't know maybe it's just just a sort of a meaty mush yeah but like a sauce but it's like i get a mustard i could get a whatever it doesn't matter it's all the same it's too cold anyway yeah you're right yeah um i love the long halloween and it's follow-up dark victory they're both very good i'm actually also doing a video i'm kind of roughly planning it best batman stories that aren't like year one dark knight returns scott snyder's run and whatever which are all amazing. Yep.

Does that count as something that not everybody's read? Is there like a kind of... Yeah, I think so. Yeah, cool. Because I feel like not everybody knows it.

Yeah, no, you're right. But I really like it. Yeah, anyway. I love the art in it as well. It's cool. Yeah. In summary, it's okay, isn't it?

Yeah. Dom? One thumb up eight. Yes, I love it. That's what we Yeah. In summary, it's okay, isn't it? Yeah. Dom? One thumb up eight. Yes, I love it. That's what we're reading for this week. Yay.

Time for letters. Oh, yes. This is from Patrick. So Disney owns everything right, like everything, correct? Yep.

Could Disney legally do a Star Wars Marvel crossover? I know that the storylines wouldn't align at all and it would be a very bad idea, but I was curious if you guys think it's even possible. If it is then it's

even terrifying. Then it's terrifying. Food for thought. Thanks and goodbye. Sincerely Patrick PS. I'd like to be the official listener from Maine. You know that state with all the goddamn lighthouses. And lobsters. Really? Nom nom nom nom nom. You're a lobster fan? Yeah. Do you like the song Rock Lobster? It's alright. Okay good.

Yeah that's our boy. Yeah what if they did a lobster sub? Get it out of here, mate. It's no good. What was the question? So, could they legally do a Star Wars Marvel crossover? Yes, they definitely could. Legally, definitely. Oh, definitely.

Also, Marvel... Morally? Marvel Comics... Sorry, Star Wars Comics used to be printed by Marvel. Originally. They're printed by Marvel again. They are back now. It's just happened.

The New Year's, it all ticked over there was an amazing deal on Dark Horse which I probably should have mentioned I think it was something like 50 bucks for every Star Wars comic

this is on Comixology no this is the Dark Horse app because Dark Horse aren't on Comixology right right 50 bucks for everything wow so I didn't get it

I think it's done yeah I didn't get it if only there was another way to get all the Dark Horse Star Wars comics off the internet somehow. Maybe they'll do the deal again. Maybe they'll do the deal. We can only hope.

So I think now that that's happened, all those comics now go over to Marvel as well. I don't know. I'm pretty sure Dark Horse don't own them anymore. I might be wrong. Look, so legally, yes, they can do it. Should they do it? No. No. Definitely no definitely not leave it there well pat and oswald has that amazing parks and rec rant where he talks about all the universes

converging star wars and marvel and whatever through the infinity gauntlet yep uh-huh so you could make it make sense but yeah i don't think because it's yeah unless this men in black 22 jump street crossover has like flick switches in people's right which it probably has yeah if these properties start to tank yeah it's possible they'll be like one last gasp yeah whatever um yeah uh let's have mark hamill fight captain america fight Chris Evans. Yeah, I don't know. It's not... It's because it's a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. Yeah, exactly. So do you make it a parallel universe?

Do you make it a time travel story? Yeah. There has been... There's actually... I think there's been at least two Star Trek X-Men crossovers. Where my favourite part of that is where wait which Star Trek it's original

the first one's original series yeah and the second I think the first one they did solely because each universe has a character called Dr. McCoy and they wanted the gag

where somebody calls for Dr. McCoy and they're both like yes I think that's anyway that's how the deal was yeah there's a scene in that where

Gladiator who's like Marvel's Superman like he's... Anyway, that's... That's how the deal was. Yeah. There's a scene in that where Gladiator, who's like Marvel's Superman, like he's Kree and he's... It's like Superman, but he's purple and he's got a mohawk and he becomes more powerful the more confident he gets. Yeah. And he's a real smart prick. Like us. Yeah.

So he's really powerful all the time. And this is just a brief moment where he punches the Enterprise. So it's my favorite part. Does he like knock it down? Like a guy swatting a frisbee he punches the Enterprise. So, it's my favourite part. Does he, like, knock it down? Like a guy swatting a frisbee out of the air? Yeah, no, and, like, you know, he damages the shields and people are like, well, you know, the classic when something happens to a Star Trek ship and it goes flying.

Yeah. And the panel explodes for no reason. If there's artificial gravity on that ship, why would it go flying? Because you could flip that ship upside down and everybody stays up the right way. Look, don't bring logic into this. All I'm saying is, which McCoy is better? Ah, good question. Look, human McCoy is more ornery, certainly.

Mutant McCoy is more hairy. I feel like Mutant McCoy is probably a better doctor in general I would say so yeah uh huh because McCoy is always like just waving a stick and being like yeah it's probably whatever

look I'm just fixing your bones with this stick if you present him with a proper modern day medical emergency you'd be like where's my sticks so anyway

I would tell him oh yeah Marvel I don't think it would work because you'd have to incorporate time travel and like vast or dimensions like vast intergalactic. Or dimensions. Yeah.

Or vast intergalactic distances. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about like a. And also. Yeah. What about like an Elseworlds kind of movie where it's not in canon or whatever?

You're talking. That's Star Wars Christmas special territory. So. But and also I think the Star Trek x-men works because star trek has a sort of a functional society yeah and they can the x-men can go okay well they're gonna go their way and we're gonna go ours and everything's gonna be fine yeah but i think if the heroes of the marvel universe ran into the star trek of the star wars characters they'd be like well they're fighting this interstellar battle for the future

of everybody in their galaxy yeah we have our past yeah in our past or whatever yeah we have to intervene in this yeah you're right like we're gonna get the infinity gauntlet and it would it would it would just go forever it would go forever and it would kind of yeah it would take up all their time yeah it'd be a massive inconvenience, basically. Okay, fair enough. Also, who's got the force then? You can verge the universes. Yeah, good point. Who gets the force in our universe, exactly.

Or are midichlorians exclusive to that? Wait, so the Marvel universe is our universe, just so we're clear. That's the real universe. Yeah, exactly. The other one's crazy. No, I think you'd have to say that, because what you'd have to do is you'd have to introduce

you'd have to say okay midichlorians are a thing and they're exclusive do you have to though? yeah you have to because then you say and they're exclusive to that galaxy

like unless you were born in that galaxy okay you can't use the force right because otherwise then Marvel characters would have to

you know some of them would become force sensitive and get Force powers. Yeah. And then what can the Star Wars characters get? Can they bring that back to the regular universe as well? Yeah, exactly. Like, yeah.

Star Wars character could get like a shield, like a big spangly shield. Oh, a spangly shield, sure, yeah. Like some kind of super hammer. Oh, who's worthy to lift Thor's hammer? Probably Mark Hamill. Probably Mark Hamill, exactly. Real life Mark Hamill. Real life Mark Hamill, exactly. Do you reckon Hamill. Real life Mark Hamill, exactly.

Do you reckon Harrison Ford would have a good snark off with Tony Stark? Oh, yeah, probably. Tony Stark? Yeah. Who's cooler? Tony Stark. Get out of here. No, he is.

Then Harrison, then Han Solo in his prime, Han Solo, shooting Greedo through the desk. Yeah, good point. Cooler than, come on. That would be a nice, they would. Cooler than... Come on. That would be an... They would definitely put that scene in, though. Where they sit down together. They sit down together

and hand shoots first, but Tony Stark's prepared for it. Yeah. Because he's wearing an Iron Man suit. He's wearing an Iron Man suit. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That would be sweet.

Yeah, but it's not going to happen. I don't know. I want to see this thing now. Yeah. Now that we've brought... Now that we've sprinkled a little podcast magic on top of it, of course you want to see it. Yeah. Nah, never happen.

It'd be garbage. This is from Aiden. Hey, guys. This is my first time emailing you, and I wanted to know whether you guys are offended by the character of Captain Boomerang. I was just asking because it seems like the Australian equivalent of blackface. Australia also has a history of doing the blackface.

Yeah, that's true. So the Australian equivalent of blackface is also blackface. Correct. But does it offend you in any way? Not at all, no. Here's a follow-up question. Have you ever seen anybody throw a boomerang and it's worked? Never.

Literally never in my life. Yes. I mean, I've seen somebody throw a boomerang and it's worked never literally never in my life i mean i've seen somebody throw a boomerang and it's sort of curved a bit yeah but i've never live and seen anyone throw a boomerang and it's come all the way around and they've caught it or come all the way around no exactly yeah normally it's somebody because you could catch it yeah if it came like you could yeah i've seen a number of people throw them toward like a lake and it's just fallen in the lake you know they're like um if this if this works i'm the coolest man in the world and it didn't work not that that's a regular occurrence no like i don't know it yeah i don't know anyone with a

boomerang because they're all in lakes that's right yeah it is not like blackface because yeah because we're privileged white guys that's right exactly yeah it's not even it's not even close i don't know i think australians generally are very amused by any kind of Yeah, because we're privileged white guys. That's right. Exactly, yeah. It's not even close. I don't know. I think Australians generally are very amused by any kind of stereotypical Australian. Like the Bart versus Australia episode of The Simpsons. I love that. It's great. You know what?

I still think that's a sore point for some Australians. Some people were very offended when that came out. I love that episode. I think it's so funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are the dollars that they call? $900-y dues. Yeah. Every part of that's great. it's so funny yeah what is what are the dollars that they call 900 dollary dudes yeah

every part of that's great it's so good and they're like we gotta call the prime minister and they're like it's like next door he's in a he's in like

he's floating down in a pool like he's shirtless and he's in like a floaty pool which isn't that dissimilar from our prime minister yeah

except our prime minister's more racist. Yeah, I'd rather have the Simpsons Prime Minister, I'll be honest with you. Dollary do's. Yeah. That's great. And Knifey Spoonie's great. Somebody built their own,

like it's on Boing Boing or whatever, so track it down. It's like they've built their own like boxed game of Knifey Spoonie. Oh yeah. Pretty with its own rules. It's great awesome thanks aiden yeah hey guys uh this is a nice emr uh my name is james that's him oh yes

yes it's more than one there you go in the world yeah i'm 18 i live in the uk for many years now i've struggled with depression and various other conditions i do not lead a normal life i will not consider myself a happy person that is until i I wake up every Monday morning and listen to your podcast. I don't have many friends, but consider you guys both a great part of my life. You make me smile and laugh every week without fail, which is not something that happens for a lot, a lot for me. You two are great people and you do a great thing by bringing laughter to the world. And when you both die, you can rest knowing what many people cannot that you left the

world a better place than when you entered it. Not true Not true. Or true. James, are we going to die? What? Sorry, yeah, this ends with a threat. Oh, no. Fair enough.

I look forward to what is hopefully many more podcasts. Thank you. That's a super nice email, James. That is a super nice email, yeah. I'm glad we can bring something to you, you know, something nice and whatever to your ears. Oh, yes. Better place, the world, because of us?

No. Confirmed. Oh, great. Okay, cool. That's super cool. So thank you, James. Thanks, buddy. I hope everything's working out.

You seem like a good dude. And you write a lovely email. Oh, yes. Speaking of lovely emails, Mason. Oh, yes. This one's from Flavia, probably the fifth or so female listener. Great.

Hello. I've been listening to your podcast for one and a half months now. I'd really like to know your thoughts on the best and worst comic book villains. By the way, can I be the official Brazilian of the podcast? Yes. Yes. We should do a villains episode. We should do a versus villains episode.

Do you want to do it next week? Or is there something else out? What is happening? I don't know. Should we do most anticipated movies? Okay, let's do it next week? Or is there something else out? What is happening? I don't know. Should we do most anticipated movies? Okay. Let's do that next week. Okay.

How about this? We'll do that next week. Unless people email us in or whatever. Whatever they do. How do they contact us? It doesn't matter. Anyway, let us know if you've got some sweet villain matchups you'd like us to talk about. Yes.

And if we get enough of those, we'll do versus. We'll do it at some point. Yeah, and otherwise we'll do most anticipated of the first quarter. But we'll definitely get enough, without a doubt. Oh yeah. I'm going to have to whittle it down like a lot

because we got liked last time. Nah, we'll get none, send him hundreds. And also the deal is as well, we'll only use a character like once. Yep. So I'll pick the best, or we'll pick the... I'll pick the best.

For those new listeners, we did an episode where we did a versus episode, various heroes versus one other. Cause everyone wants to know who's, who's better Superman or the Hulk. Yeah. James Bond versus Indiana Jones. That's my favorite.

That's a personal favorite that nobody else seems to like. Yeah. Yeah. And again, so, so everybody knows if you have, if you've always wondered like who would win in a battle between, you know,

Dr. Doom and somebody from the DC Universe. Doctor Doom from a different time period. Thank you. Good. Great. Or like, you know, anybody... Sinestro. Sinestro.

There we go. That'll be a good one. Yeah, but remember, we have a ground rule. There's a football field. Yes. American football field. American football field. Standard size.

Yes. Friday Night Lights style. They appear at either end. Mm-hmm. And they just... football field yes american football american football field standard size yes friday night light style they appear at either end and they just they have to kill each other yeah or wait it depends if it's a hero yeah they incapacitate because that's the thing villains usually just go for the killer yeah yeah cool this sounds great yeah and then maybe we'll then do a down the line we'll do a heroes villains one also they're in their prime right in their prime

in their prime unless you specify an era yeah but don't do that don't make it complicated let's say prime yeah yeah cool alright done

I actually have an email here from a young Nick Mason what this is from you huh I was just going through some old emails oh yes this is going to be embarrassing for me no it's actually not huh this is it's not really What? This is from you. Huh. I was just going through some old emails.

Oh, yes. This is going to be embarrassing for me. No, it's actually not. Huh. It's not really that interesting, but I just thought it's an interesting look at the past that probably no one cares about except me and you. Probably not even you, to be honest. This is when I was in Italy in 2008. Oh, yes.

I was in Europe. You have been to Europe. I have been to Europe. But you have never seen the movie Iron Man check and mate PS wait till after the credits you will pee your pants

all caps there you go I remember sending that yeah because Iron Man wasn't out in Italy at the time no it was

it was in Italian and I was losing my mind people were like look it's all the art it's all the art. It was all the greatest art in Florence. I'm like, I don't care.

I just want to see Iron Man. Yeah. And I did see it. I finally found a cinema in Rome. I saw it and it was great. And I did pee my pants, but before. Huh. So,

it was before I went in. So, yeah. Also, in the middle of the movie, it stopped. And they're like it's time for a break I'm like come on

Italy's crazy we're all going to smoke cigarettes yeah that's right what are they up to also a quick shout out to Eric Lippy sorry to Tim and Kristen who are engaged and they want to be the official engaged couple of the show and they want to be the official engaged couple of the show.

And they want to be the official married... We've had some engagements before, but then nobody's ever asked to be the official engaged couple. So, yes, you win. You got it. Yeah. They also want to be the official married couple when it's happened. But I say, let's just...

Yeah, let's hold on, mate. Come on. I'm not saying it's not going to happen. I am. Okay, well, all I'm saying is if somebody wants to sneak in first. Good point. You don't even have to be married. You don't even have to be a couple.

Just some guy. Just email in. You can have it. Okay, this is from Eric Lippy. Yes. This is a Sense of Right. It's a Sense of Right, you know, one of those knockoff packets of toys. Oh, yeah, totally, yeah.

Like a Justice League, but a cheap knockoff. But it's just like, it's a mixture of whatever. So this is the lineup of the Sense of Justice toys. Okay. A car. Oh yeah, sure. What looks like some kind of blue Power Ranger with the body of He-Man. Oh yeah, cool.

So Power Ranger's helmet, but He-Man body. Yeah, Superman, but with the sleeves like rolled up. Oh, nice. Like a three quarter sleeve. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Batman. Like he's just washed his hands in a sink, but he hasn't.

He doesn't want to get his sleeves wet, but he, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Batman. Like, he's just washed his hands in a sink, but he hasn't. He doesn't want to get his sleeves wet, but he... Yeah, okay, good. Exactly. Batman with an aqua suit, but a purple bat symbol. Oh, yeah, cool. And a very thin head. Spider-Man and Shrek. Nice.

What a combination. That's pretty good, isn't it? Oh, that's a good combination. Yeah, no, that's... Love it. Yeah, yeah, aqua Batman. And you notice the picture on the box also doesn't line up with what's in it. Can I grab it?

There's like the Ninja Turtles. Okay, oh yeah, there's a whole team of Ninja Turtles. Batman's there, yeah, cool. Black Spider-Man's there. Mr. Incredible. Donkey. Oh yeah, one of the cars from Cars. Okay, that makes total sense.

Yeah, okay, great. Just all sorts of universes combining. Oh man, see that's what we want. That's the cars from Cars. Okay, that makes total sense. Yeah, okay, great. Just all sorts of universes combining. Oh, man. See, that's what we want. That's the future. Exactly. Like, once we've nailed this Marvel, uh, Star Wars situation. Exactly. So we, um, so basically, we love incongruous DVD packs.

Definitely. Which is DVDs that don't make sense together. And we're not talking, like, two DVDs which have been, like, cellophane together at Walmart. Correct. Which is fine, which is also good. We're not talking like two dvds which have been like cellophane together at walmart which is fine which is also good we're talking like same box yep like the box is split in two and it's like 50 first dates and like 30 days of night yeah because it's just numbers but i also don't like the his and hers because i feel like i feel that's been specifically engaged yeah like well she loves this crap you love this crap so just shut up and watch that one, and then you can watch your one kind of thing.

Yeah, but I like if it's like, again, if it's like Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey, Gattaca. You like how did that happen? You know? Time travel? Yeah. That's not time travel. Gattaca is it?

Genetics. Yeah. Well, thank you for the themes, Gabriel Bruton. Hang on, did you not have one there no what a DVD pack no that was it no I'm saying that

I put these in the same category oh okay right like just nonsense I got so excited nonsense packed together yeah totally great alright send us some of those actually

people should DVD pack you at Wikipedia Brow yeah because you like them I do and sometimes I forget so yeah themes

Gabriel Bruton Joseph Lisk the Bruton and the Basilisk. I don't think we thanked them the last couple of weeks. So, thank you. Double thanks. Yes. Where can people find us, Mason?

We're at Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter. Just a sec. Do you want to legitimately get Subway after this? No. Okay. Sorry. Go on. Oh, you've ruined this.

I just started thinking about old bread. We're right in the old bread zone, man. It's the time for it. You're right. At Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter and Gmail and Facebook. Correct. I'm at Wikipedia Brown. I'm at Mr. Sunday Movies.

I'm on YouTube. Yeah. Patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday Movies. Yes. If you'd like to contribute to the show. Yes. Like a couple of bucks a month. We really appreciate it.

Yeah. It'd be no pressure. And Redbubble t-shirts. Oh, yeah. If you Google. Golden legend. Yes. yeah no pressure and Redbubble t-shirts oh yeah if you google golden golden legend yes

but just go to redbubble.com yeah or just google weekly planet t-shirts oh yeah you'll find it whatever

yeah you guys are savvy with the internet you guys you know how this works now next week also in case we don't do those episodes we talked about

oh yeah Mason you've promised to explain hey hey it's Saturday oh jeez I've made no promises. Sorry. I know you don't want to...

Nobody's going to know what I'm talking about. I apologize. But yeah, it's a great show, isn't it? I think if you Wikipedia... I think if you wiki Hey Hey It's Saturday, you'll be confused and there'll also be some of that blackface we talked about. Yes, exactly.

Sorry for springing that on you. No, it right that's the show guys thank you for listening grab that jam guys sorry grab a jam yes you have to apologize for what just grab that jam man oh no but i was apologizing for it because i'd forgotten don't don't apologize never apologize okay grab that jam in terms of never apologizing That's one of the ways you can grab that gem. You know what I mean? Okay, cool. Yeah, so just grab that gem. Done. Have a good week, everybody.

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