The Weekly Planet - 67 Super Villain Showdown!

Episode Date: January 20, 2015

This episode we’re all about pitting different popular villains against each other in a who would win football field scenario!Plus we talk Batman V Superman, X-Men Apocalypse, Captain America: Civil War, Star Wars and Spider-man. As always, thanks for listening!! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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My name is James, editor of that website, with me as always my co-host Nick Mason, hello It feels like a long time since we've done a podcast It has, because this is a Monday night for us Yes Because I was away for the weekend in Sydney Oh yes Australia's capital i don't know well surely nothing interesting happened while you're away in sydney moving on

wait okay but it's not that interesting i went to a music festival for the first time in many many years oh yes it was okay you're still a young man you can enjoy music yeah i know but like it was an okay for one hour and a half to line up for a drink. It was the Beat the Drum Festival, for anybody who doesn't know. 40 years of Triple J, if you're outside of Australia, or even if you're in Australia, you probably don't know what I'm talking about. Great. But you know, there's a good lineup of bands and whatever, but hour and a half for a drink, right?

For like canned beer or whatever. Uh-huh. It was- Did you just say canned beer? Canned beer. Nobody says canned beer. What do you say? A can of beer.

It's canned beer. It's in a can. This is, no, this is. What are you saying? A can of beer. It's canned beer. It's in a can. This is... No, this is... What are you talking about? Nobody says canned beer. Everybody says canned beer. Email in.

Listeners. This is what this podcast is all about. Finding grammatical errors. Weird syntax things. Calling people out on. Nobody says canned beer. Yeah. Yeah, you're probably right.

Nobody says canned bean. Maybe they do. Don't say canned beans. Give me some bloody canned beans, mate says canned beer. Yeah, you're probably right. Nobody says canned beans. Maybe they do. Don't say canned beans. Give me some bloody canned beans, mate. All right. Anyway, it was fine. Like it was hot and the bands were okay. I was really far back because I don't want to be up the front and people like sweating on me and whatever.

It sounds like the ideal environment for you. Lots of people you don't like. And don't know. Very little access to alcohol So you can't numb the pain away But it wasn't like You know a lot of music festivals are like weirdly aggressive Like this one wasn't kind of like that

Which was good But there was one bit I was drinking my canned beer Oh yes And this guy walked by And I was standing by myself Like there was no one around Well I wasn't by myself I was with friends but

There was nobody around me Right And he walked past You alienated all your friends By that point in the day And he like Put his hip into me Like threw his hip into me

Right For nothing So as he And he didn't turn And I kept walking So I took my can And I threw it And I hit him in the back of the head

So I don't I don't condone that But at the same time, he deserved it. You're missing an essential element of that story, which is, which direction did you run in after you... I didn't run. He didn't turn around. The day continued. It was very weird. Wow. So, yeah. Look, I'm not...

Did you know that he beat you to a pulp and you're in a coma right now? We're not even doing a podcast right now. I'm not a violent person, but don't shove me, Mason. Oh, look, I didn't do anything. Oh, good. Yeah, yeah. But like, don't get in fights. It's dumb. And people get knifed.

Are you talking to me? In general, I'm just being public service. Anyway, go on. So you didn't get You didn't do a thing I didn't do a thing Look it's late This is going to be

One of those episodes Boy is it It's late Look on the way On the drive over here I sang along to all of Brian Adams Boys of Summer

Just using nonsense words Not real words Just like On the beach And then The song finished And I still had a few minutes. So I went on Spotify and I found it and I sang it again. Yeah.

Have a good Spotify. Don't buy music. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Or listen to radios. So anyway, millions of news related things must have happened while we've been away, right? The Oscars, they were announced and whatever. Oh, yes.

Oh, I saw Birdman. Oh, it was good. I saw it twice. Wow.ars. They were announced and whatever. Oh, yes. Oh, I saw Birdman. Oh, it was good. I saw it twice. Wow. Double up. Yeah. Double feature. Yeah, yeah.

It's actually called, isn't it called like Birdman and the something and the something and the something? Or the Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance. Because as I was listening to the Oscar kind of thing, they said it every time. Oh, great. It wasn't just like Birdman. But there was, I know there were a few upsets like Jake Gyllenhahold didn't get nominated for best actor in nightcrawler oh yeah but look and that's crazy uh-huh but who like like i always say who cares right because it's the oscars the oscars

exactly yeah really care yeah so we know in our hearts that he's the best actor yeah or one of the best yep kind of okay yeah yeah um i got the letter here from Hazza Oh yes What are your opinions on Tom Harvey leaving his role as Rick Flagg in The Suicide Squad? He also said the show is getting funnier and funnier Great sound quality Some of those things are true I guess Well first of all I didn't know that he left his role

Yes As Rick Flagg in Suicide Squad Yep Initially it was scheduling conflict But it was later said that the focus of the movie was going to be on Deadshot and the Joker, which is Jared Leto. Oh, yes, sure.

And William Smith. Uh-huh, sure. Mr. William Smith. Mr. Bill Smith when he becomes a director. Yes. So, sorry. It's my brother. Oh, yeah.

Which one? The one you don't like. Great. Tell him I said some mean things things People want me to tell the story Or want you to tell the story Of why you don't like my brother But For another day

Sure Also I don't really remember what it is It's lost in the mist of time Think about it We'll come back to it So yeah But apparently it was all amicable And whatever

So It's fine Okay They've talked about Jake Gyllenhaal though Stepping in to replace him As Rick Flagg Yeah I don't like that he's a chameleon chameleon sure sure you don't think you could do it he's buffed up i mean he's buffed up but he's kind of like he was in source code and he was a military man he was in jarhead yep but i don't know rick flagg he's probably a bit older isn't he yeah i'd say that's what i'm talking about they're probably

they're not probably that different in age, but Jake Gyllenhaal looks younger. Exactly, yeah. Babyface. Do you think Jake Gyllenhaal, if they cast an older Spider-Man, he'd be good? Yes. Because he was supposed to do it. Yeah, right. He was going to take over at one point. Yeah. They should have got him from the start. Don't you reckon? Yeah. Yeah, anyway, whatever.

Dreams, just dreams, just pipe dreams. This has gone off the rails really quickly Just weird coma-induced dreams In fact, this episode has not even been on the rails yet Have you noticed? Yeah Alright Yeah, if this was a minecart

We'd be struggling to lift it onto a track Yeah Anyway Fox are saying The TV station and the ones that did some of the movies that we didn't see And the Woodland Animal the Woodland Animal also said

yeah at a press conference and said they're talking about bringing back the X-Files I saw that yeah with Mulder and Scarlett because initially I'm like and then they're like

with Mulder and Scarlett I'm like okay they've said reboot a lot of times really but it doesn't strike me as a reboot it's a continuation

they look exactly the same well maybe they look less 90 it's a continuation they look exactly the same well maybe they look less 90s they do but they look good don't they yeah absolutely and then you know gillian anderson does you know six episodes of the fall a year and whatever decoveney's finished with californication what else they got going on yeah exactly probably family children give us more spooky stories You idiots Yeah idiots But I I think

Like Wouldn't this work good As like a mini series Kind of thing Yes Like they bring back heroes With Oh Zachary Quinto

Not Zachary Quinto Um The guy from Chuck Is gonna be the main guy Chuck Chuck Norris Chuck Chuck

Yeah I don't know I don't watch Chuck Woodchuck Is Chuck still going Surely not I don't know What's his name

He's bloody He's the new Thrandril in Thor Zachary Levy Yeah maybe He looks like He looks He's the

John Krasinski Looking dude Yeah he's Okay I think It's Zachary Levy Yeah But anyway More X-Files

What do you think I'm on board with that I would like to see I mean it did Who cares Like it got to a point When who cares Yeah true

But now I think TV is getting better. Yes. Bring it back with some solid, solid stories. Yeah, yeah. Did you like, did you see both of the movies? I saw the first one. It was, it was okay.

The first one was fine. People were banging on about it. Yeah. The second one wasn't related to aliens or whatever. Yeah, it was, it was a Billy Connolly film. Yeah, it was. Right? It was.

And it was, he was like a pedophile priest and they were chasing a guy who was sewing like different heads onto different bodies and whatever right and yeah it was okay but it was just like a standalone episode yeah exactly so it's not see that's that's the thing like the x-files has more to the mythos and more to that world there's so much happening in that world yeah that a movie doesn't really cover it no you're right and also i guess because at that point the the massive sort of alien overarching plot of the whole series it ended more or less yeah so like what do we got left pedophiles they're pretty scary it ended in if i recall correctly it was like a court case.

Yeah. And the truth was that the aliens were going to land in this certain year. And I think it might have been like 2006 or whatever. Uh-huh. And that was the evasion year. And that was like the truth. Right. Okay.

So, but that show was a lot of treading water as well. And like, his sister's back. Oh, she's not back. What happened? Because the initial, wasn't the initial initially it was I was very young when this came out so I don't really

I shouldn't have been allowed to watch it right but I did it scarred me but um wasn't it his sister got abducted

and that's why he was Mulder and that's why he was driven to believe yes exactly and Scully was like I don't think so but turns out she was

yeah oh boy yeah the first movie also had a lot of her falling unconscious just as giant alien Exactly, yeah. And Scully was like, I don't think so. Uh-huh. But it turns out she was. Yeah, oh boy. Yeah. The first movie also had a lot of her falling unconscious just as giant alien spaceships like came out of the Arctic or whatever. Yeah, yeah. And Mulder's like, Scully, look! It's an incontrovertible proof of what I've been telling you all these years.

And she's like... Status quo returned. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I think she came around in the end. Yeah, probably. Also, fun fact, in. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I think she came around in the end. Yeah, probably. Also, fun fact, in real life, David Duchovny doesn't believe in aliens and extraterrestrial stuff, and Gillian Anderson does, apparently.

Oh, there we go. Fact. Yeah. You know, it's probably one of those TV guy bullshit things. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I had a thought. Oh, that's right. I read, this isn't really part of the news, but none of this has really been part of the news yet anyway.

I read an article, I read an interview with somebody this week and he was in a ride it was a he's a tv writer and he was in a writer's room with somebody who was who worked on lost yeah and he asked the guy how were you planning on like this was this was years ago and he's like how you're planning on wrapping up all those all those plot things in lost and they're like we're not we just we just throw stuff at the wall every week just keep people on their toes and then and nobody noticed either yeah exactly everybody everybody absolutely noticed yeah yeah so maybe it's not just david lindelof that deserves flack for that it's us the audience yeah i guess for letting him get away with it yeah why don't we burn that studio to the ground you know yeah trap them all in the hatch whatever i didn't watch it that's

good yeah good accurate yeah uh henry cavill has been interviewed and stuff he also while we're away there was that we went away we didn't do news or something what happened that doesn't matter there were there was rumors of Batman v Superman being broken into, which was not the case. Yeah. But you know what? Yes. I know this isn't news, but I would have liked that.

No. Just so we get a Warner Brothers movie. Just give us some movies. Just give us some movies, DC. Why are you so bad at movies? So, yeah. But I mean, it's probably for the better that it's not. But yeah.

I mean, I'd never really believed it to be true. Whatever. Anyway, Henry Cavill actually debunked that. Yeah. But anyway, he says about the movie, though, Batman v Superman, which we will see next year and in a few months. Sure, yeah. They asked him, how's the film going, whoever?

And he said, it's Zack Snyder. So it's going to be a visual spectacle. And it's cinematic history. Okay. Is that good, though, or bad? Sounds bold. But everything is cinematic history, isn't it? That's definitely, yeah, it sure is.

Yeah. That sounds like something that's going to come back to haunt everyone involved in that production. Yeah, yeah. Can it live up to the hype? Can it live down to the hype? Can it live down to the hype? Is there any hype, though? What? Yes.

No, but I mean, Man of Steel was a disappointment to a lot of people. This movie is like the biggest movie, aside from probably Star Wars. Or maybe even on par. This is like the biggest cinema event in like 10 years, I would say. It doesn't feel like an event to me. Okay. Yeah. I'm just like, yeah, it'll come.

If it ever comes out. Maybe when there's less than a year to go, maybe I'll be like, oh, this is exciting. I'll remind you on the day. Great, thank you. The day it comes out. Okay, great. Fantastic. Do you remember exactly a year ago, say?

How was your hype on that day? There's no, in X-Men Apocalypse, there's no Ian McKellen or Patrick Stewart in it. In the cast list? Yeah. So it's all, they've confirmed that, or one of them confirmed it. So it's all new cast and Wolverine. Well, I think that's probably because they were like, how do we dress Ian McKellen and

Patrick Stewart in the eighties? How do we like, they've just gone through hundreds of like costume cards and like, do we, do we give them white suits with the sleeves pushed up and t-shirts? Do we? And they're like, no, just,

just bump them out. I'll do anything. Yeah. Though. I think there's flashbacks in the X-Men movies that are set in the eighties with them in it. Right. So there's going to be a severe like jump,

you know what I mean? Like between, between the two, but I two but I'm okay with that I mean it was nice to see them it was nice the way to combine them in the last movies the old and young

Professor X and Magneto but you can't really do it again I guess no exactly but you know I'd still like to see them in a future movie or a past movie

no a future movie future yeah alright do you know there's another thunderbirds movie being made what boy say this till the middle of the news what you didn't know england's favorite marionette puppet space fight i don't know yeah did you ever watch that i mean obviously it was well before our time yeah no i i remember seeing it as a kid on TV and it was like, this is crap.

I remember just, there was a local sketch comedy... Yeah, there's a local sketch comedy show that had a Thunderbird sketch on it. Okay. Wasn't very good. Are you talking about Full Frontal? I'm talking about Fast Forward. Oh, and they did it with real people. Yeah.

Yeah. It was no good. I don't, yeah. So by extension, the show Thunderbirds was no good Are you saying That Australian sketch comedy Is no good Correct

Now they did reboot Thunderbirds a few years ago Do you remember Yeah live action I remember With Bill Paxton One of those And some kids Yeah and like all the ships

And everything looked like Thunderbirds Yeah And everyone I remember when You were probably there When we saw the trailer And I remember we were like

They're not puppets Yeah exactly So you'll be pleased though This is a mixture You were probably there when we saw the trailer. And we were like, they're not puppets? Yeah, exactly. So you'll be pleased, though. This is a mixture of live-action CGI and real life. I'm presuming they film real stuff and then put in the CGI people. Okay. But this is what the new Thunderbirds look like.

Huh. Okay. Have they got DreamWorks face? They kind of... Without the smile. They're not smug enough to have DreamWorks face? They kind of... Without the smile. They're not smug enough to have DreamWorks face, but you're right, yeah. Very generic. There's no charm to that. No.

But they're doomed either way, because if they do actual marionettes, people will be like, oh, it's Team America. Yeah, you're right, yeah. But if they do it like that, weird, right? Yeah. Thunderbirds. Why do they keep... Why do they keep making Thunderbirds movies?

Was that your question? That was my question. I don't know. But I know the answer. It's probably because the last one made slightly more than its budget. And turned a small profit. They're like, well, let's do it again. We know that people know what this is.

Let's do this again. They saw that Australian skit. Let's do it until the profits are not enough to do another one yeah stop okay fair enough yeah man it's i don't understand it and i think with this they're like well now we have the character models yeah just release them straight to dvd yeah so it'll be really cheap yeah it reminds me of like you know any any film any like you know you we see like a dvd store and it's like where it's like the Adventures of Tinkerbell and it's just the most generic looking like people, like CGI people.

That's what that looks like to me. Definitely, yeah. Anyway. Anthony Mackie is in the news. Oh, yes. Falcon. Falcon. The Falcon or Falcon?

Falcon. I could be wrong. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter, does it? No. He says that Captain America Civil War is like the avengers 3.8 which harkens back to when captain america the winter soldier was coming out and he said that movie was like avengers 1.5

so i don't know why this is he's got a he's got a very specific counting system involved wow yeah but i remember when he said that this is like avengers 3.8 also i have terrible a terrible obsessive compulsive disorder. Can someone help me, please? But I remember when he said that the first time, I was like, I don't like that. Captain America is not really an Avengers movie. But that's good. It's not supposed to be.

And I think this one's clearly more Avengers, though, with the Civil War. Though there was a whole lot of rumors this week week which we're not going to go through because it could be spoilers of characters that are coming and going and who's in it and who's not. Right. So anyway, if you want to look that up Mason, use your computer or phone. Which is asked me after. Okay, sure.

But don't because I don't really remember. Scarlett Johansson's also returning for that movie. Fantastic. So that's, you know, that's at least point one. I don't know what his's at least 0.1 i don't know i don't know what his system is yeah anyway buildings get knocked over that's that's 0.3 add that on i can just imagine in his trailer like they're calling for him he's just furiously doing math he's like the guy from beautiful mind he's like writing all over the glass. He's got a lot of strings

and like like variety magazine articles taped to his wall and he's just got red string connecting them all. Standing them up on an abacus.

Yeah. Avatar 2 has been delayed one year till December 2017. Hmm. Which I guess pushes back the whole trilogy.

Unless they're releasing two in a day which i doubt uh okay great if they said that was always the date it was coming out i would say yeah i wouldn't have noticed yeah absolutely not so he said because james cameron said the first avatar script took six months to complete and because they're doing three at once that's harder right so you know that's great. There was also Spider-Man in the Infinity Wars news. Yes, there was.

Yeah, I did hear about that. So basically it was apparently Sony allowed for him to be in the Infinity Wars. Yes. It's just war, isn't it? I think it's just the one. Yes, it's just the one. Yeah. It's pretty big though.

Yeah, it's a pretty good one. That though was all debunked and whatever. Oh, really? That's a shame. Yeah, but I think there's so many rumors coming and going, the Sony hack and whatever. I think the information that gets out, there's not really any indication of where the time period of that is from.

True, yeah. So I think there's still a chance he could show up, but then they're talking about they're still doing Sinister Six and whatever, and then they're saying Garfield's in and Garfield's out and whatever. Garfield hates Mondays, but he loves lasagna. Boy, does he. Who can we believe? So, yeah, it's a shame, but I think if you're going to bring it back, I guess Civil War

would have been the one to do it, but whatever. There's a lot of those things I was talking about with Avengers characters coming and going, that leads into Civil War, which I won't spoil. Not Civil War, Infinity War. Yeah. Great. Infinity War Part, to Infinity War. Yeah. Great. Infinity War Part 1, Infinity War Part 2. Should it be Infinity Wars?

Or is it still the one war? It's still the one war. Okay. Yeah. You bloody World War I and World War II, they're part of the same war. That's why we call them World War I and World War II. Not World War Wars.

One more piece of news. Yes, I'm ready uh george lucas oh yes has spoken up about star wars he said that his initial plan was to make episode seven now he didn't indicate whether he would make it or we would make it in-house at lucasfilm with whoever but he said and then he was going to do that develop it himself and then release it in May 2015 just develop himself at his house at his house yes great

marionettes and then sell the rights from there so then somebody else would fix his mess I mean continue his mess continue his legacy

yes that's a good thing don't you think that that didn't happen very good yes I mean we haven't seen it yet and like I

I do like George Lucas he's done a lot of good things like charity wise sure um not entertainment wise not as much no

no but he's also one of those charity guys that doesn't bang on about doing charity that's true so that's a that's a point in his favour

yeah so well done to him but he said it's it's been easier to remove himself in the beginning and then he gets to enjoy Star Wars like everybody else.

Oh. Or yell about it like everybody else. So, there you go. Gets a bad rap, that George Lucas. Sure does. Seems like a nice man, I don't know. Yeah. All right, so that's the news for this week, Mason.

We covered all the news. We did. Did we? I'll think of something later. We got some track, didn't we? Yeah, yeah, yeah. At some point. Oh, did we talk about the Age of Ultron trailer, the new one?

No, we haven't actually. That did come out, didn't it? Yeah. It was about a week ago. Yeah, so it's old news now. Yeah. Thoughts? I liked it.

I did a breakdown. Um, the Hulkbuster armor. It's got, um, Simpsons hands. It's only got four fingers. Yeah. Yeah yeah that's true yeah that's pretty cool Barry

yeah ah here's one um I should have mentioned that in my trailer breakdown yeah you should have called me Simpsons hands

exactly ah what else what else happens in that trailer there was a woman in it where people were like who's the woman oh yeah so that's

I had a few theories but I don't actually know maybe Black Panther's wife yeah I've heard of that or sister or someone from that country and there's i thought it might be hell or hell or hella oh from the from hell yeah from hell johnny get from hell yeah um and there's someone else it could be like uh i can't remember the other one i said doesn't matter but yeah pretty good what else happened in that trailer Thor was in it oh yeah

uh it was a lot of the same stuff yeah just slight variations on it so but it was good a lot of people

were disappointed but whatever but I think it's better than doing it this way than showing similar trailers like there's no

vision for example yeah than I'm really hoping they don't show the vision I want to be surprised by something in that film

I mean you've seen the concept kind of art that's been released yeah exactly looks like the Vision that's pretty dead on isn't it yeah pretty good

but I think he'll play a major role like probably the last third of the movie or whatever so yeah because I think they revealed too much

in the remember the initial Avengers trailer Hulk catching Iron Man yes should have said that final scene of the film. Yeah, exactly. Spider-Man, the Amazing Spider-Man,

the Amazing Spider-Man 2 showed the, like, 46 minutes of footage. Yeah, that's right. Before it came out. So I think less is more. Yeah, totally. I mean, less is less. Less is clearly less, right? Like, empirically.

Yeah, definitely. Logically, that is. Less does, in fact, equal less. It couldn't equal anything else. Yes.. Logically, that is. Less does in fact equal less. It couldn't equal anything else. Yes. Ah, Banner's eyes turn green when he's turning the eyes green. Yeah. Which they did in...

The original series and the Edward Norton one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they took it out for the Avengers, but it's Banner, which is nice. I'm cool with that. Yeah. And also... And also the Hulk has Simpsons hands. Four fingers.

Not true. I don't know. But he does have the red eyes. Hmm. And there's speculation that his skull which controlling him or whatever maybe yeah maybe he's just super mad people like oh he's so baked it's a very good joke isn't it it is a good joke yeah it's a good joke but that's the news for this week i guess unless you've got more trailer stuff to talk about a really old what else happened in

the old trailer damn spider's still in it that's good yep you see more circus and he's circus oh you do see a little bit of Andy so he's definitely claw yeah he can't be without yeah yeah oh um roadie's got his arm in a cast yes I also noticed that I think that's probably that's not a cast it's he's just kind of holding it yeah I think that's probably just because he was trying to lift the hammer yeah good but that but that I talked about this in my trailer thing. That happens after Ultron breaks in. So I think he was trying to lift it. He uses that weapon and maybe he gets damaged.

And maybe they tear it off him and whatever. Oh yeah, pretty good. So, you know. Cool. Alright. Old trailer news. There it is.

There we go. Well, Mason, people have been crying out. Sorry, this might be important. What are we talking about? People have been crying out for another Versus episode. We did a superhero showdown a while back. Oh, yes.

But it was pretty much pick two people and we'll put them together and see what happens. Right, sure. I think people said it was one of their favorite episodes of all time. Next to the Expendables 3 episode. Oh, which everybody loved, sure. Some people say it was their least favorite episode of all time. Yes, yes. Great.

I think one of the reviews was like yeah I think I mentioned this like you should listen to them all you could probably skip the Expendables

one we're not doing another Expendables one oh come on like that's it next movie comes out we're not doing it

unless it's spectacular like it's in space or like we've talked about sure do you know there's a new Rocky movie with Apollo Creed's

grandson by the way just called Apollo Creed or Creed or something? Creed, yeah. Soundtrack by Creed? Yes, but he's a rich kid. Oh, yeah. Isn't the appeal of Rocky that Rocky's not a rich kid? I guess, but he could be a rich kid who learns humility.

Like Tommy Gunn from Rocky V? I haven't seen Rocky V. He doesn't learn humility and then Stallone beats him up in the street. Sounds good. Okay, yeah. Maybe I've seen that. Okay, great. It's possible.

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that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Anyway, so this week I thought we talked about last week, we'll do a super villain showdown. Oh yes. So we're talking about all super villains. We've got a whole lot of people writing in.

The rule was if somebody else got in before and they used a character then I took that one. That was generally the rule. So sorry if I didn't include. I obviously couldn't include everything because we got a lot of these. You could have included everything. You could. If you tried real hard, mate.

If you didn't want to phone this in, you could have included literally everything that anyone's ever said. You're probably right. You've got a letter here. Okay, I'm ready. Dear James and Mason, I live in the UK and I realised I had a question last week that was perfect for this time. Who will win the fight between your favourite comic book characters? And then he says, Mason is awesomer than James.

Yes. He didn't need to say that though. But he did though, didn't he? It's weird. Weird that he said it and he didn't have to. Oh. Alright.

P.S. Could I be the official tall person in the podcast? No. No, of course you can. Yeah, cool. But I thought maybe we could do something different Or if you want to pick a character

We can pit them against each other I said come up with two characters fighting And This is so confusing What are you talking about? Well Our favourite characters Do you want to do it like that?

Or do you want to do it where You pick two characters And we'll talk about it And then I'll pick two characters And we'll talk about it And then we'll do All the listener ones Listening ones

Yes All of that Okay fine We'll do the pick a character okay who you got uh wait should we say in the same time what if we say the same one what happens then they fight oh one slightly different color oh fantastic okay you ready so confusing okay fine you have to have the ones locked in your head you have to say it okay okay all right head. Once locked in my head. You have to say it. Okay. Okay. All right. Mine is Count Dooku. I was going to say Magneto. Okay. Yeah.

Old or young? It's in its prime, right? Yes. We have to do... We've got to establish the rules when we do a versus battle. Yeah. Okay. So...

Oh, that's right. I've made this super confusing, haven't I? Yes, you really have. You really... This is the worst intro to anything. You are awesomer than me. Yeah. I thought we were just going to pick two.

You said prepare one, so I've got one. Oh, okay. Did I? Yeah, anyway, we'll do that in a second. First, we're going to do Magneto versus Count Dooku for some reason. So anyway, the rule is they both appear at different ends of a standard size American football field. Yes. And then they run at each other or whatever.

So we're talking Fastbender Magneto or we're talking Comic Book Magneto? Comic Book Magneto. different ends of a standard size American football field. Yes. And then they run at each other. Yes. Or whatever. So we're talking Fassbender Magneto or we're talking comic book Magneto? Comic book Magneto. And we're talking just Count Dooku. Yeah, just Count Dooku. Because in his prime. Which is. 90 years old.

Christopher Lee. Well, it's probably Magneto, right? But that being said, could Count Dooku use enough of the force to keep his like belt up? Because he's probably got a metal belt and keep his lightsaber on him oh yes do you think that would see if this comes to a battle of wills yes and look young magneto is angry actually let's go with mckellen magneto at least them they're both movie characters and in the hobbit and in the hobbit and old yes uh it's a it comes down to a battle of wills, ultimately.

I feel like Magneto doesn't waver in his conviction. Yeah. But Dooku's just all over the shop. I feel, yeah. Like, I feel that all Magneto has to do is wait for a moment of confusion in the mind of Count Dooku, which is going to happen very easily,

and then just use his magnetic powers to just shove the lightsaber through the guy's brain yep fair enough that fight doesn't last very long no but it would be good yes but christopher leake if you remember can do a whole bunch of cgi flips i can do so many cgi flips you're right that's true yeah but also magneto can cgi himself to look very young that's right well in his 50s and creepy. Yes. And like a wax man. Sure. Okay, but to be fair, Dooku, in his prime, was able to hold his own against Obi-Wan and

Anakin. Even the second time, he did it for long enough. Yeah. Until Anakin cut off both of his arms. Yeah. Are we going to go with that version of Dooku, armless? Probably not. No, probably both arms.

Yeah. Yeah. Also, Dooku can shoot lightning yeah i reckon that's a good question okay what's the lightning is it actual lightning it's that weird force like but is it actual electricity i guess because i feel magneto if it's if it's regular if it's force if it's magical force midichlorian lightning, I feel Magneto is going to be quite vulnerable to that. But if you, I think Magneto, if it's actual electricity, I think Magneto could deflect that very easily. Okay.

Electromagnetic, you know? Okay. What about if, like, also Magneto can lift a bridge or a football stadium. Correct. Oh. So have you ever seen Dooku lift anything bigger than a rock? No, but he lifts quite a lot of rocks. He does, doesn't he?

See, as you were saying, he defended himself against Anakin and Obi-Wan at the same time. But that's very much... That's a physical fight. And that's in his rules, within his element. And it's a physical fight with a little bit of the force built into it yeah i get the sense that this magneto versus count dooku i know why do we keep saying it it's ridiculous just to say just imagine christopher lee all confused so good it's that's mostly going to be it's going to be a fight in the mind and

there's going to be like a medium in a fight In the mind And there's gonna be Like a A medium in the middle there They're not gonna They're not gonna be Hitting each other No They're gonna be

At the bare minimum They're just gonna be Throwing heavy objects At each other What if there's a bit Where they are Throwing heavy objects At each other

Yes And then Dooku says Clearly our skills Cannot be What's that line he says In Clone Wars When he's fighting Yoda Where he goes

Clearly our skills Cannot be matched. Our skills in the Force are equally matched. Perhaps we settle this with a lightsaber fight. What if it comes to that? Well, it probably wouldn't. No. I think Magneto would say, okay, hand me a spare lightsaber.

And then Dooku would do that. And then Magneto would drop a really heavy metal object on his head yeah sure yeah i mean all he could really do is just bend dooku's lightsaber towards his face and turn it on yeah and that would be that's all you need yeah okay well that went for too long because it was clearly magneto it was clearly magneto yeah we should have just yeah all right this this is actually kind of fun let's do another one okay sure two randoms hang on let me think of one all right we'll cut out the dead air here we've been thinking for hours all right hang on This is actually kind of fun. Let's do another one. Okay, sure. Two randoms. Hang on. Let me think of one. All right. We'll cut out the dead air here.

We've been thinking for hours. All right. Hang on. Okay, I got one. All right, sure. We should do a three, two, one also. Okay. Okay, ready?

Three, two, one. Harsh. Stilt man. Okay. So, mine was harsh. Batman villain. Mine was stilt man. We've actually got a stilt man one here. Oh, okay.

Well, that's all right. We'll knock this out real quick. No, we'll get rid of that, guys. Okay, fine. Okay. Well, look, they're both street toughs. Yeah, good. Isn't that weird?

That's good, yeah. It wasn't Thanos versus Stiltman, which is a bonus. I was trying to go interesting, you know? This would be quite a good fight. Hand to hand. Yes. Hush can fight Batman.

Yes. Not for long, but he can fight him long enough. What about Stiltman hand to hand? How's Stiltman at getting away with long strides? He's very good at that. Okay. And the suit's, you know, powered armor. It's kind of...

It's a whole suit, isn't it? It's not just the... It's not just legs. He's not just a man in a trench coat with long legs. No. Inspector Gadget. Look, I think this is going to go... Like, I mean, in the football field situation happens.

Yes. Stiltman stilts up. He stilts right the hell up. He can... Straight away? So he gives away what he can do? Yeah, he's an idiot. Yeah, you're right.

He's built a stiltman suit. And he comes at him. He comes at Hush. Okay, this is both in their prime yeah so stilt man suit is made of adamantium so it's indestructible okay hush has guns hush has guns and a trench coat yeah okay i think what happens here is stilt man stilts up thinks he's invincible because he's got the adamantium suit he charges at hush hush charges at him there's some shooting both ways sure still man's got like a laser or whatever.

Yeah. Doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. Some sort of weird Marvel Universe ray gun. Doesn't matter. Yeah. And hush back and forth.

Jinx back and forth. Yeah, he can. Because if he can dodge like Batman can. He's pretty quick. He's pretty quick, right? And then I think I'm pretty sure

he just climbs up Stiltman's legs and shoots him in the mouth hole like a whole bunch of times. Yep. I'd agree with that. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, how quick is he on the stilts anyway? Look, I'd imagine legs and shoots him in the mouth hole like a whole bunch of times yep i'd agree with that yeah yeah absolutely i mean how quick is he on the stilts anyway look i'd imagine he's the quickest man on stilts i wouldn't even say that like to be honest right i'd say he's pretty good but i think he's if he is the quickest it's only because he's dumb enough to do it's like the only one it's like being like the fastest man who can run backwards right who gives a shit you know what i mean no i know what you mean yeah all right yeah you're right yeah you're right though harsh could yeah you're right very easily all right we should we do one more of these yeah let's do one okay let me pick one more okay i got one i'm ready um okay all right three two one Okay. All right. Three, two, one. Sinestro. Matalo and Sinestro. Okay, right.

Also, I think it's Matalo. Whatever. Okay, so Sinestro, obviously power of will, but he's also- Fear. Fear, sorry. Yep, you're right. Sorry. He doesn't have any will, does he?

No, he's just- Zero. He's just afraid of everything. No, he harnesses the fear of others. I think that's how it works. It's all vague. It is. Like the Green Lantern Ring, it's the will of everything. No, he harnesses the fear of others. I think that's how it works. It's all vague. It is. Like the Green Lantern ring, it's the will of the wearer.

Yeah. Sinestro ring, fear of everybody else. I guess so. I guess. I don't know. I'm not sure exactly. What you do is you just, if you're in the Sinestro core, you carry around like a wheelie suit case that's filled with guinea pigs that are just terrified of everything all the time. And you just embrace that fear.

Now, Sinestro, is he though at his peak when he's a Green Lantern? But then again, he's not a villain when he's a Green Lantern, so. No, I'd say Sinestro core. So, green ring. Okay, fair enough. Well, look, it's probably Sinestro, I want to say. But then again, Metallo. Yes, Metal Face.

He can't really... I mean, no one can really be killed, but he can transfer his consciousness into, like, a computer and... There's no computers, man. Oh, yeah. We're a football field. The scoreboard. And then change the score, so he's said to do wins.

Oh, so good. Good thinking. Wins out of technicality. Yeah. But no, of technicality. Yeah. But no, no, no. I just feel like all it would take would, he would just get like a big yellow hammer and just mash him with it. Yeah, that would work.

Like that's all it would take. That would definitely work, yeah. He'd just shatter into bits. Would it go beyond that? No. Has he got any tech on him? It's an Estro. Yeah.

I don't think he does. Well, the ring is- Well, the ring's tech, technically. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. But can it be like hacked? That's a really excellent question.

I'm going to say... You know what? I'm going to say, for the purpose of this, yes. If they had him face off... Yeah. I reckon... I think you also have to factor in how they'd write it. Yeah.

And I reckon Sinestro would just sheer off all his... Like, you know, generate some big yellow scythes and just sheer off all his arms and legs or whatever. And be like, I gotcha. Yeah. And then he'd walk away and then like a little Metallo would come out of his ring. Yeah.

And then just, I don't know, squeeze his hand real tight. So you say Metallo would win. I think he might, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Intense. Has Metallo got like a kryptonite heart sometimes?

He's got a kryptonite heart, yeah. Sometimes. Sometimes, yeah. Yeah. Not that that's any good in that scenario. It really isn't, no. Yeah. Jeez, kryptonite's vague, isn't it?

Yeah. It can power a man. Certainly. It can power a man or give him cancer in his hand, just to say. You know what? Actually, I think what probably happened was Sinestro would just pick him up and throw him in his face. Yeah, you're right. That's how it would work.

Is that a win, though? Because he wouldn't die. Ah, that's a good point. And also, he can fly sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes? Sometimes, correct. God.

Why are comic book characters so complicated? You know, right? It would be much easier if they weren't. Yeah, all right. I'm going to go Sinestro. All right, I agree with that. All right, cool. And he's redder. He's pinker, sort of. He going to go Sinestro. Alright, I agree with that. Alright, cool. And he's redder.

He's pinker, sort of. He's pinker? Yeah. He's got a tweedlier moustache, certainly. You know, I think if Metallo, Metello... Yes. ...Mecano wanted to... Mr. Meccano.

He could grow a little moustache. Oh, absolutely. He could want to. Yeah, sure. It's not really his thing, though. No. Alright. How about this one?

This is from Stefan F. Who's actually actually his mum's sick at the moment. Just want to say best wishes. Hope she's doing all right. Hopefully this Versus episode will cheer her up. Yes. She'll enjoy it. Or be confused. You'd be very confused.

I'm confused. Yeah. This is a good one. Battle Armor Lex Luthor versus Doctor Doom. Oh, yes. It's Doctor Doom, right? Uh-huh. But.

Yes. Do you think it's Doctor Doom? What do you mean? Because who could beat Battle Armor Lex Luthor? Not just the Battle Armor by itself. All right. Lex Luthor's in it. Oh, yes.

They appear on a football field. Yes. Different ends. Uh-huh. How would that go down? Do you think Lex Luthor would last longer than 10 seconds against Doctor Doom? No. Doctor Doom can smash pretty much anybody one-to-one last longer than 10 seconds against Doctor Doom? Doctor Doom can smash pretty much anybody one-to-one.

Yeah, I have a Doctor Doom one-to-one. I know we made that rule, but I'm going to hoodwink that rule. Yeah, exactly. We can break it. Look, I think Battle Armor Lex Luthor is the Lex Luthor of last resort. Yes. It's like when all his scheming has fallen apart. He's like, I guess I'm going to punch on then. Yeah.

I mean, it can do a variety of things, but it's normally only built for Superman. Yes. Specifically. I mean, you know, others, I'm sure, whatever. But I don't feel like he's susceptible to magic. First of all, his head is very exposed. Yes. Why does he insist on that?

Doom can fly and do magic and he's got technology and he's incredibly strong and he's sometimes got a gem or whatever. He can do whatever he wants to do. They're equally crazy. They're probably equally smart. Yes. But I think Doom's just got more stuff.

Also, he's got that mask over his face. And as you mentioned Luthor got nothing Yeah Short fight Short fight Good fight Yeah

I always don't like Playing as Lex Luthor In any of the I think he's in the DC Versus Mortal Kombat And he's in Injustice I hate a big

Clunky armour guy Oh yes Because they can't really They're slow and whatever And I don't like them Anyway that's another reason Why Doom wins. Okay.

Do you think Doom needs the cape? Do you think he could lose the cape? Why would you lose the cape? Yeah, you just look like an Iron Man man, I guess. Yeah, exactly. Ridiculous. Okay, well, mine was Doctor Doom versus the Mandarin. Okay.

Specifically, Julian McMahon versus Ben Kingsley. Slap fight. Okay, is this after Julian McMahon gets his Doctor Doom powers? Yes. Which are... No, no, this is them. The actors. The actors.

We'll do characters in a minute, but the actors first. Okay, Ben Kingsley's British. Yep. And I feel like he was... I don't know, is he Cockney? I don't... I don't know. He's such a good actor, we'll never know. Yeah. I mean, he was, I don't know, is he Cockney? I don't know. He's such a good actor, we'll never know.

Yeah. I mean, he's played such a way, but he's been Gandhi, he's been, he's been like the raging, not raging bull. What was he, the boxer guy? He was in a boxer movie. Jake the Snake. Jake the Snake. Macho man Randy Savage.

Like he's a better actor than Ben Kingsley, certainly. But Julian McMahon looks kind of fit. If we're talking in their prime, I'd imagine Kingsley's pretty scrappy. Yeah Kingsley, certainly. But Julian McMahon looks kind of fit. If we're talking in their prime, I'd imagine Kingsley's pretty scrappy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For a Shakespearean dude. But they're known for that, aren't they? I'm going to give it to you. I think I'm going to give it to Kingsley.

But Julian McMahon's also Australian. But he did adopt an American accent, which is the worst kind of Australian. That's very true, yeah. Yeah, that's a betrayal of all we stand for. You know, it's not so much the betrayal, it's just the, how long did it take you to just pick that up and just go with it, do you know what I mean? Yeah, true, yeah.

Like, instantly, you know what I mean? I mean, I understand it happens over time, but anyway, whatever. Also, Ben Kingsley's had four wives. Wow. Yeah. Interesting, right? I just saw that there.

Which of them has been on Neighbours, Australia TV show? Julian McMahon. Correct. Yeah. That's struggle street right there. Which of them has been on Neighbours, Australia TV show? Julian McMahon. Correct. Yeah. That's Struggle Street right there. I guess that was a competition. Yeah, I definitely bet he would be the winner at that. Somebody actually wrote it this week and said they saw it.

This is really quick. No one cares. Except for us. Not even you. They saw Toadie from Neighbours in a panto. Oh, yes. And he was very good. Isn't that delightful?

Yeah. Good. That's pretty good. But what about the characters? Dr. Doom and the Mandarin this is full force yeah I'm gonna say

I'm gonna say comic book versions yeah um cause you can't do movie versions cause it's just a guy versus a guy who can shoot lightning and sometimes ride a surfboard

exactly yeah that's true yeah alright so we got Doctor Doom yep see we got Doctor Doom

who's you know strategic genius Yep Right? He has the suit of armour, powered armour Yes Nuclear powered, whatever's, all the gear Yep

Full face mask Yep You're not hitting him in the head with a big hammer How is he without the stuff, hypothetically? He fought a lion once, like barehanded Did you see his face? No, I think he was wearing the mask Him and his mask

Do you have the cape? I can't remember. Okay. It was a leopard skin cape. Okay. I don't know. Okay. And he's got the magic, right?

Yep. He's got magic. Yep. But he's sad because his mum's in hell. Correct. So that's points against him because he's sad. But, so Mandarin's all magic all the time. What do his rings do?

Alright Well there's different versions Isn't some of them technology? No they're all technology Here's what his rings do Okay Ten rings of power Here we go

I can totally do this Ten rings of power Freeze ray Flame blast Disintegrator beam Heart Always get a good parking spot Sweet abs for summer

Negging Just for summer? Yes Sweet abs for summer and negging go together very well Don't they just? Totally nailed the drum solo in Phil Collins' In The Air Tonight Nine Understand Donnie Darko

The whole thing I can't explain it to people Wait, the director's cut or the regular version? Whichever you want. Okay. And ten, what this ring does will make you cry with joy. Sponsored by Upworthy.com. I don't know what any of his rings do.

You got freezing, right? Yeah, I got some of them. I think it's lightning and whatever. Yeah, like fire and something. I don't know. Are they really? So there's no version where he's just magic? No, but he does.

The version in his prime that I'm taking is he's got... Yeah, the rings are alien technology. Yeah. And he also has access to magic. Okay. Because his hands were destroyed and then he grew back reptile hands and that gave him magic powers. You remember when that happened, right? Boy, do I.

Yeah. Yeah. I journaled about it. Yeah, definitely. See, that's quite an even match, I think. Okay. He's got one of them is Disintegrator Beam. Like, he can cut apart Iron Man's armor with it.

Yeah. But what's Doom's armor made of? Oven doors, I'm pretty sure. Like Back to the Future 3. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I feel like if they're... It sounds like they've got a lot of similar abilities.

Yeah. But I feel like the suit gives Doom the advantage. All right. Okay. Football field. They're running each other. Yeah. I think first thing he's going to do is disintegrate a beam.

Okay. I reckon he could cut off at least one arm. Yep. One of Doom's arms. Sure. Or legs, whichever. Maybe not the arm itself, but he could certainly cut the armor. Cut the armor off it, sure.

And the disintegrator beam only works like, you can only use it like once every 15 minutes or something like that. When does he neg? Well, it wouldn't work on Doom, I don't think. Yeah. Well, he's pretty sad. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah. But I'd, he's pretty sad. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah.

But I'd say he's preoccupied. So if he was like, oh, great armor, you know, actually sort of similar, whatever, whatever. I think Doom would be like... Great armor, did you get it in the sale? Yeah. I think Doom would just be like, fuck off. Like, I don't think... Yeah, I think he's got other problems.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't think it'd bother him. Hmm. Yeah. You know what, though? If he got off Doom's mask, Because Doom's real paranoid About people seeing him I think that Would

Either send him into a rage Or be his undoing Right Then you neg him Get the mask off Neg the shit out of him Alright Magic versus magic

Again I think Doom's got the time platform as well okay didn't even fake but he doesn't he wouldn't have it with him he wouldn't bring it with him unless that's how he got there

yeah but it's we can't really determine how he got there and also I don't want to bring time travel into this yeah alright okay maybe we should just move on because it's like

I think it's like 45 minutes okay how many do we have? a lot alright I'm going it's like 45 minutes Okay And we're done How many do we have? A lot Alright I'm going to give it to Doom And then we're done with Doom Done Like I think it'll be a great fight

Yep That's all I got How about this one? Okay I'm ready This is from Liam M Heath Ledger Joker Oh yes Versus Jack Nicholson Joker

Oh good one Heath Ledger? Uh yeah I think Heath Ledger Joker Is much more inclined to just pull out a gun and put some bullets in the guy. Yes. I think Jack Nicholson's Joker, there'd be a lot more faffing about. Do you think there'd be a lot of

amusement between them and they wouldn't kill each other straight away? There'd be a lot of like, wow! You know what I mean? Yeah, totally. I think if Heath Ledger's Joker can go toe-to-toe with Batman for a time, and Jack Nicholson's Joker can't go toe-to-toe with Michael Keaton Batman... For even a second, you're right.

Yeah. Then, yeah, you gotta give it to... Well, Nicholson's Joker has a lot more Joker-esque gimmicks. Yes. Like, he's got the acid flower. Yep, Nicholson's Joker has a lot more Joker-esque gimmicks. Yes. Like he's got the acid flower. Yep. He spits out fake tea. Yep.

Pretty great. He's got that really long gun. Yep. He's got that boom box with the Prince soundtrack on it. I'm sure. Yep. That'll be distracting. He's got that beret.

That purple satiny beret. Certainly. He's got that super long gun in his pants I just mentioned the super long gun No I have to mention it again It was very long You're right They just joke notoriously

Knives and lint Knives and lint exactly yeah I think Yeah like I think If Nicholson got in first With the acid flower Yeah I think that's

I don't think that would stop him though No it wouldn't I think that Yeah Yeah I mean if you got him in the eyes That would I think that's I don't think that would stop him though No it wouldn't I think that Yeah Yeah I mean if you got him in the eyes That would Yeah

That would sting It would sting Like it would blind you But I still think that I think If Heath Ledger's Joker Could get his hands around Jack Nicholson's Joker's throat

Right That's done Yeah And even if he was blind He'd still have to get in close Oh no he could still have to get in close. Oh no, he could still shoot him with a long gun,

I guess. It's a pretty good shot too. He shot down the bat wing. Bat wing, yeah. Hmm. I still, it's got,

it's a ledger. Let me think. Okay. He's distracted with a boom box. Okay. With the Prince soundtrack on it. Also. Yes. If they're running at each other.

Yeah. He's got that long gun down his pants oh that he can't bend his knee he's he's that gun collapses to a regular size gun though okay yeah sorry yeah i know he's thought of everything yeah he really has no i think it's probably gonna go to ledge's joker yeah yeah i mean it's possible that he could shoot him look but i but i'm saying i don't think he would shoot him not initially right i think he'd be like what is this you think that they just meet in the middle as kind of a fun little and they do like circles around yeah true yeah and then

i reckon then acid flower yeah and then i reckon acid flower a bit a bit of a little bit of light choking yeah some knifey bit of bit of knife work. Yep. And then Ledger's Joker pulls all the pins and all the hand grenades that are in his coat. And then they're both done. Yep. Okay.

Sure. Yeah. You forgot the knife shoe. He's got a knife in his shoe. He does have a knife shoe. He forgot the knife shoe. Yeah. Yeah.

Good call. The only reason that he's not killed, it's the gun and the Joker's and the gun, the acid flare. We didn't have that.

It's got other stuff too. Joy Buzzer. Oh, that's true actually the gun and the acid flare. We didn't have that. It's got other stuff too, right? Joy Buzzer. Oh, that's true, actually. Killer Joy Buzzer. I think... That's a really good point. I think Heath Ledger Joker would see that coming, though. Yeah, he would.

Especially because it's a giant red buzzer in a man's hand. And he literally saw everything coming. Yeah, true. In The Dark Knight. Uh-huh. That's an interesting one, though. I reckon stalemate both of them are dead. Okay.

This is probably a quick one because I don't know enough about either. I know more about one. Brayden Batman is his name. Oh, yes. Not the character. Captain Cold versus Mr. Freeze. Oh, again, one has a tragic backstory and one's just a guy like, I got a freeze gun.

Also, Freeze is strong, right? Yes. And I don't think Captain Cold's strong. Yeah. Are we going Wentworth Miller, Captain Cold? Because he was all right. Are we doing Wentworth Miller, Captain Cold, Arnold Schwarzenegger? Mr. Freeze?

Well, look, he needs his diamonds to power his laser gun in his suit or whatever, or his freeze gun. Yeah. If we're going live action, sure. Yeah. Then it's Wentworth Miller. Right. Is it? Yes.

No. He's so clunky in that suit. But what's the... Okay, you hit Mr. Freeze with a freeze gun. What happens? Oh, yeah. Nothing, right? He's momentarily frozen and quite content.

Yeah. Because he lives on cold. Like Captain Cold's just a regular guy. You're right, and he can bust out of it. Yeah, yeah. He's strong, but you're right. If you freeze Captain Cold, dead. He's dead of frostbite.

Yeah. You're right. He's got a coat. He's got that nice coat. Nice fur-lined coat. Exactly. Yeah, but no, you're right. You're absolutely right.

Yeah. But I think comic book versions, again, it's actually Mr. Freeze. It's Mr no, you're right. You're absolutely right. Yeah. But I think comic book versions, again, it's actually Mr. Freeze. It's Mr. Freeze again, yeah. There you go. And also, you know, if there are like people for the ethical treatment of animals, people around that football field,

they will condemn Captain Cold for that fur-lined coat. So we're talking crowded football field. Ah, who knows. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. The audience does not play into it. Correct.

Yeah. Yeah. Look, this ends very quickly. You know what? It ends very quickly with Captain Cold's legs being frozen off and him just falling to the ground dead. Or a broken neck, one of those. Yep, sure.

How did Captain Cold go up against the Flash? How does that happen every time? It's a lot of him freezing the ground. Okay. Freezing the ground around him and the Flash is like, well, I've dealt with Captain Cold, but he's not going to do that freezing floor trick again. And then, whoa!

There's a lot of that. That'd be pretty naff, wouldn't it? Yeah. But he can run on water. He can't run on ice. Correct. Whatever. Yeah.

Okay. This is from Francisco, who's the eight-year-old Batman. Oh, yeah. This is an interesting one who's the eight-year-old Batman. Oh, yeah. This is an interesting one because they're both poor winners. Poor losers and poor winners, I would say. Boba Fett and Predator. The Predator. The Predator.

Yeah. Again. We've talked about how Boba Fett is essentially just a Stormtrooper. He's just a Stormtrooper with a different colorway. He's what he is. Yeah. I did a video on it. I can't remember which one. But

from this conversation. Based on his... Movie track record. Based on his movie track record because the expanded universe is done. That's right. Bloody done. He may be the most elite bounty hunter in the universe, in the expanded universe, in the comic books, in the now cancelled

Star Wars 1313. But in the movies, in the expanded universe, in the comic books, in the now cancelled Star Wars 1313. Yes. But in the movies, he's the bloody Abbott or Costello of IG-88's the other one. Yes. But he's all slapstick. Yeah, you're right. He's no good.

Yeah, he is. Look, he flies up in the jetpack. Yep. Predator hits him with one of those net guns. Yep. And he goes down and the Predator pulls his spine out. It's real. It'd be cool though, wouldn't it?

Yeah, it'd be very cool. Yeah. What about... Look, the Predator's stronger. Yep. It's got that blade thing. He's more nimble. It's got that spinny blade thing.

They've probably got equal gadgets. Plasma gun. Yep. Plasma gun. Flamethrower. He can see like every color spectrum or every radio wave. My favourite part of Predator 2, and Predator 2 isn't great, but my favourite part of that is when the government guys are like,

we've got the Predator. We know he sees in infrared, so we're going to freeze this whole place and he won't be able to see anything. Yeah. And they do that and the Predator just leans in. He's like, can't see anything. He just switches over to a different enhanced vision thing. He's like, now I'm fine again.

Yeah. And see you all. That's pretty again. Yeah. And see you all. That's pretty great. Yeah. This is from Ravi. Hang on, is there a way Boba Fett could win? He's got a flamethrower. Oh yeah, sure.

But I don't think that would stop the Predator. No. He's also got a rocket pack, but I've never seen him hit anybody with it. Or fly in a straight line with it. Or fly anywhere other than directly into a giant monster's mouth I guess there isn't a giant monster in There's no Sarlacc pit on the football field

So I guess He would just hit the post He wouldn't break his own neck That's true And then maybe that rocket goes off And he dies Oh, poor Boba Fett I wish you were better

He's also got that... Grappling hook? Yeah, it's like a little rope. He wraps up Luke Skywalker in it. Yeah. But the Predator has a net that can cut through you. Yeah, true. It's like a razor net or something, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Plus he's got like a... Hasn't he got that blade that he can throw? Yeah, the spinny blade. And he's got the... Low control. He's got the giant... Big stick.

Yeah, he's got the pike. In Predators, predators the movie they've got like scouting hawks yeah you got all sorts of dogs big pred dogs yeah for dogs the dogs but he can't bring his predilection bring the dogs that's true yeah yeah but yeah predator yeah yeah if you if you know what that's probably going to upset people if you'd like to give us a scenario in which Boba Fett wins this, email in. Can't use Expanded Universe. Can't use Expanded Universe. You can't use any of the so-called skills he has in Expanded Universe. He's like the bloody Mr. Magoo of Bounty Hunters.

That's the metaphor I was thinking of before. He's Mr. Magoo. He just bundles through. He's Maxwell Smart of Bounty Hunters. He's the Inspector Gadget. just bundles through He's Maxwell Smart Of Bounty Hunters He's the Inspector Gadget There we go I found it

He's the Inspector Gadget Of Bounty Hunters Because he just He's got a lot of gadgets That go off at random And he's muddled his way Through to this point And then it gets to

And nobody's noticed Yeah nobody's noticed And they're all like You're the best And he's like I am the best. And then he gets the return of the Jedi and the chips are down. He actually has to step up and he falls to pieces.

What an asshole. Oh, Jesus. That's great. Yeah. Email it if you disagree. I'll read it. I won't. All right. This is from Ravi. I'll read it. I won't. All right.

This is from Ravi. Yeah. Stilt man versus Captain Boomerang. We did a stilt man one. We did. We know what he's aware, what he could do. Yep. Not a lot.

Uh-huh. You reckon Boomerang can hit him in the face? Uh. Takes one Boomerang. It does, doesn't it? And it explodes. Yeah. So.

Boomerang's only got Boomerangs. True. Oh, and Fightings. Yeah, yeah. He's got Fightings. But again, Boomerang is not. Yeah. Boomerang's only got boomerangs. True. Oh, and fightings. Yeah, yeah, he's got fightings. But again, boomerang is not... Okay, again, adamantium suit. I hate to do this, but I might have to give it to Steel Man.

What? Yeah, I know. Look, okay, here's the scenario. They run at each other football field style. Captain Boomerang throws a bolo boomerang. Okay. Wraps his legs up. Oh, yeah.

Empire Strikes Back style steel man hits the ground boomerang hits him with an exploding boomerang in the face that's probably the scenario if the arm is too strong I don't even know

if he has bolo boomerangs he could probably clank yeah break him apart he'd have bolo boomerangs but I reckon probably he'd break it apart like he strides big enough that he could just break them apart.

And then he just kicks Captain Boomerang in the head, I think. Right through the gulls. Right through the gulls, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, because Captain Boomerang is just a guy, I guess. Yeah. And if he's had a good run, like, a good run up. And you know what?

Boomerangs, always with these trick shot guys, it's always like they'll throw a boomerang or whatever, a spear or arrow or whatever. And the other guy goes, you missed. And the guy's like, did I? And then it hits him in the back of the head. Stiltman's got this enormous armoured thing on the back of his head. Like he's purpose built to win this. He's an armadillo with long legs. He is an armadillo.

So boomerang would throw the boomerang. Stiltman would go, you missed. And Boomerang would be like, did I? And then it'd just clang on the back of Stiltman's head and he'd be fine. Yeah, you're right. I reckon... And then punt through the goals. Yeah, I reckon Boomerang's going through the goalposts in this one, yeah.

Okay. You did it, Stiltman. You won against somebody. Great outcome for Stiltman. He's done it, hasn't he? Ravi picked the only guy yeah

that could be bloody you know what I mean yeah yeah Austin this Thanos doomsday I think Thanos

is would outsmart him I think Thanos probably isn't stronger or he's equally strong maybe as doomsday

no doomsday would be stronger I think but Thanos depending if he's at his prime he's got the gauntlet yes and that's not that wouldn't be a fight i don't think that's fair no i think we should also actually there was a there was a storyline recently in marvel comics i think it was in future foundation which is the fantastic four spin-off yeah which is where uh reed richards of the fantastic four uh he meets like a group of parallel universe reads like a whole bunch of them and they've all teamed up to like you know

save all the earths by any means necessary and it's kind of this story about like you know what would you give up you know would you leave your family forever to you know go and save these billions of lives or whatever yeah the interesting part about the story is reed doesn't well he doesn't yeah he's like i like i like my kids and whatever no he doesn't yeah he hates his family oh well yeah but anyway what's interesting about the story is some of the reeds have their universe's infinity gauntlet and we learn from we learn from this that two things one is that the infinity gauntlet is only functional in the universe that it originated from. So in any other universe, it's useless.

So they can't just fix everything. Presumably they've fixed their own universes, but they can't just go and fix all the others. Secondly, some of the gauntlets are designed to fit on the right hand and some are on the left hand. So in some universes, Thanos is a lefty and some he's a righty.

What's going on there? It's pretty weird, right? It is weird. But I think that brings up the point that if they're appearing on a football field and let's say it's in our universe. Yep. The only universe with football fields.

Exactly. Then even if he's got the gauntlet, it doesn't work. Correct. So he's dead. Thanos is really hard to kill though. Drax killed him. Drax pulled his heart out. Oh yeah, yeah.

Doomsday's got this one. Yeah. Yeah, alright. I think if Doomsday could kill Superman quote unquote. Yeah. In his prime

he's pretty hard. Also Thanos like he's pretty strong and he's got, like, energy bursts and stuff like that. But Thanos isn't a fighter either. Yeah. He's a schemer.

He's a schemer. He's big. He looks big. He's one of those guys, he's one of those really big guys that's never been in a fight because he looks too threatening. Yeah. Yeah. But he's not actually any good at it.

Yeah. Doomsday is, like, immune to, like, energy weapons. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because he's been killed by them before. Because he's been killed by good at it yeah Doomsday is like immune to like energy and weapons yeah okay he's been killed by everything yeah so yeah that's Doomsday

interesting kicking him through the football that went differently than what I thought yeah there you go people also want to know a lot of people

are talking about Thanos and Darkseid I was going to say Thanos and Darkseid have you got any thoughts on that let's see good fight again Infinity Gauntlet Thanos has got it but we're factoring that out on Darkseid. Have you got any thoughts on that? Let's see. Good fight.

Again, Infinity Gauntlet. Thanos has got it, but we're factoring that out. I think Darkseid can fight as well. Yes. And Darkseid has... I don't think they've ever actually done it. In the Marvel vs DC crossover, there's like a...

There's one panel where like a boom tube opens and Darkseid comes out of it and Thanos is there and they're like well well well how about this but then I don't think

they actually fight it may have been a version hang on I'm gonna I'm gonna google image search I know this is against the spirit of the podcast

but I'm gonna do it anyway just see if there's any funny little panels wouldn't it be weird if it was on a football field yeah I think Darkseid is stronger I think if Dark side can fight superman and i know it comes back and a lot of time it comes back to superman with the the measure of a dc character is how long that

would last against superman i think yeah yeah ah yes okay so we've got a little uh we've got a little panel here it's it's dark side has acquired the Infinity Gauntlet But of course it doesn't work There we go Yeah And look Darkseid has the Omega Beams Yes Which technically can kill anybody

Yes So In whose universe? Well I guess anybody's Anybody's universe And they can also like Find you anywhere They can find you anywhere

So they can like travel through dimensions And time and whatever To get you So are you saying Could these beams Find him in a football field? Yes, definitely. That's quite a small... That's a smaller arena than the entire multiverse.

Do you think he'd shoot it and be like, you missed, but then it came back? Exactly. I think so, yeah. Look, I think... I'm going to give this to Darkseid. One, because, yeah, he is a fighter. And also because Thanos is essentially a rip-off of him.

Yes, well that's okay, fair point. Yeah, he is. What about this one? Oh yes. Doc Ock versus a real octopus. Oh, good question. This is mine, by the way. Football field?

Yes. Doc Ock. Yeah, you're right. Because the octopus would die from... Not straight away. Not straight away, but probably, you know, like... Minutes. Yeah.

Yeah. Not really concentrating on fighting, but more not being dead. This is from Torstein. Oh, yes. The lizard. Yes. Versus Killer Croc. Killer Croc.

Definitely. He's much bigger and crazier yes definitely I mean the lizard's pretty crazy but I think Croc's what's Croc like nine feet tall

something like that yeah and the lizard's like probably maybe seven I mean I know it's not all about height yeah because sometimes a little guy

can punch a big guy oh definitely but yeah I think you don't really see lizard like Croc is known for like eating people and tearing people apart.

Yeah, yeah. The lizard not as much. He's more kind of... The lizard's like, wow, I got my arm back. Woo. I think it would be a fairly short fight and it would end with Killer Croc putting his hands in the lizard's mouth. Yes. Croc style and just tearing it in half.

Yeah. Like, tearing his head in half. Though, did you know crocodiles, their strength in their jaws only goes one way. Yeah, I know that. So if a jaw... Guys, here's some advice if you're ever fighting a crocodile. Listeners. Yes.

Go ahead, James. Sure. If you're ever fighting a crocodile, first of all, don't. Yeah. That's rule number one. But if you happen to, you can actually pin... If you're listening to this and you're already engaged in a fight with a crocodile and it's been going

for 40 odd minutes and you're like man I could really use some tips yeah first of all they'll grab you

and death roll you in the water until you drown but if you can if it was on land you can actually pin their mouth shut because the force

of their jaws coming down is enough to take your arm off but they have no strength when opening their jaws it's all on the all the muscles go one way yeah exactly also gouge out their eyes because

they do not like that i wouldn't care for that at all and if you're camping somewhere where you think there's crocs move your tent every day because they'll watch you every day and then eat you because they're smart and they're pricks and i hate them yep i don't like crocs no who would uh this is from vincent i wish you'd point out that all our rulings are final yes yeah these are sorry and if anybody's works for either dc or marvel or any combination if you write these stories this is how they go yeah definitely yeah yeah this is from vinnie uh vincent b blade arm versus plate face from the hobbit blade arm's got a bladearm. He's also older.

I also think he's a better fighter. Yeah. I think it's Bladearm. I think it's probably Bladearm. Much as we love characters with things in their faces. You know we didn't mention Gunface from Transformers 4. Who has a gun in his face? We love characters with things in their faces.

Yes. Pretty good. Pretty good. I think it's probably Bladearm. I think I thought of like three more when we left as well but I couldn't remember who. Kano.

Thing in his face. Yeah. Exactly. Laser thing in his face. A lot of people from Mortal Kombat have things in their faces don't they?

Yeah. Yeah. We've got a few more so maybe we'll just quickly. I'll zip through them. Yeah. This is from Jackson J

the official official of the podcast. Sinestro. We had this one actually but it doesn't matter. Versus Loki. Magic.

Magic. Or technology. I don't know. Whatever. God. Why do you hate magic so much? I don't know, man. It's ill-defined in movies.

That's true. You're right. Do we have any inkling of how they're going to handle Doctor Strange? Not really, no. No, they're going to use the plane of whatever that he goes into. They're going to use a bit of that. Okay, right. So, yeah, it's the first big introduction to magic.

Other than Thor, even though he's like technology. Yeah, yeah. Loki can duplicate himself or whatever. Are we doing... Superman 2 style. Yeah, are we doing movie Loki versus movie Sinestro? Mark Strong Sinestro? Yeah, I guess so. Sinestro. Yeah.

Tweedly mustache. I guess so. Then it's probably Loki. His mustache isn't as tweedly as you'd think. It could be tweedlier. I actually. Very well cast. I skimmed Green Lantern. Really?

Yeah. It's no good. People have asked. It's boring. It's so boring. People have asked for a commentary. Oh. I don't want to do it.

We'll do it. Yeah. There's a moment. It's one of the things I like in films, to get off topic, we're never really on topic, but anyway. There's a, one of the things I think we like in films is when there's an action sequence and there's some good guys and they're guys who are, they're against killing. Yeah.

But then they just swat some guys out of the way and they're definitely dead. You know, they'll fling a guy off a building, they'll throw a guy against a car and you're like well that just broke his neck didn't it

there's a scene where Hal Jordan he's just he's got in the ring and he's sort of he's in a car park

he's in a car park some guys who worked at Ferris Air and they've lost their jobs because of his stunt piloting

I wasn't really paying attention too much being a fancy rogue kind of guy and they're like we're going to get you and they beat him up for a little bit and he just swats his arm and a big green fist comes out

and they all fly like 30 feet and one guy lands in a huge trash can and one smashes against a car and one just disappears flies out of frame they're all dead, those guys. And look, they were trying to beat you up,

but they probably weren't going to kill you. No. But you just, you definitely murdered three men just then. What were we talking about? I don't know. Sinestro versus Loki. Again, off topic, I saw Taken 3. Oh, yes.

Didn't want to. It's funny, not in a good way. But there's a bit where he's on the run because they think he's murdered his wife. Spoiler alert, who cares? They think Liam Neeson murdered his wife. And so it's so poorly shot. Don't because they think he's murdered his wife spoiler alert who cares they think the liam neeson murdered his wife and so it's so poorly shot i don't say liam neeson murdered his wife oh yeah he did that that's sad yeah so i'm in the mood yeah yeah yeah that was sad that makes me sad but anyway um uh so he is is it a car chase yep and he caused this massive

car chase like pile up pile up and this massive car chase, like, pile up. And this, you know, like a big, like, crate off the back of a truck, you know, those big containers, flips and smashes, like, four cars. Like, pedestrian cars. Right. So, like, even though... Just bystanders. Yeah, just bystanders. And look, as you see it, you can see that there's nobody in it. Right.

But how in the car? He couldn't have known. There's no... But also, there is no way they could have got out at that time and you don't see anybody run right and also at the end they're like well you saved that you solve the case liam neeson you're free to go you killed like eight people on the freeway right that's all i'm saying yeah anyway sinestro you needed a bit of like the eight whenever they did in the a team when something you know a car went off the road or

whatever just a off-screen voiceover just guys going you okay yeah i'm good i'm fine yeah that that giant container missed us we're fine we got out so that's versus loki uh what does loki have though really uh he got his staff that's giving me staff the the the yeah the mind gem tesseract okay all right because that's for these peak of his power yeah he can duplicate himself The The Yeah The mind gem Tesseract staff thing Okay Alright Because that's for the peak of his power Yeah yeah yeah He can duplicate himself Uh huh

He can get in your mind And your head And Yeah yeah Sinestro is afraid of everything Yeah True So

I think Loki's got I think out Loki would like Mind like mess with him I don't know though I feel Sinestro Sinestro was the best Green Lantern. Wait a minute. Can Sinestro make a big fist and smash him?

Oh, yeah, definitely. Real easy. Yeah. Big yellow one. Swoosh. And the Hulk smashed Loki. Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying.

Loki is quite... He's physically quite dense. He can take a beating. He's an Asgardian. Yeah. But he doesn't seem... And he's sneaky. Yeah.

But Sinestro's also very sneaky Yeah And he's also got the big yellow fists But they're on a football field Who's sneaking? They're just both hiding behind the goalposts On either end Yeah, exactly, yeah

No one here Just might as well just go home Ah, look, I don't You know, in a fist fight to the death Yeah Kind of thing I reckon Sinestro's got it. Okay.

And I think he's got the willpower. Loki can fist fight Thor for a bit. Yeah. But I think his main gimmick in the Avengers was the staff and he can mind control people. He's got to get pretty close to Sinestro to do that. And I think Sinestro could shrug it off. Because again, at one point he was the best Green Lantern. He has the most willpower.

What if he knocks Sinestro's suitcase full of hamsters out of his hands? Oh, then it's on for young and old then. That's what I thought. Look, I think... I don't think they're going to get close enough. Is there anything that Sinestro is susceptible to? Because you know how the old Green Lantern couldn't fight Yellow, which isn't a thing anymore.

Is there anything that he's particularly susceptible to? No. Okay, then you're probably right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of these are me going... Probably running out of moustache wax. He's afraid of that. I feel like a lot of these are me thinking it's something

and then you explaining why it's not. Then I go oh yeah yeah no I think if they somehow got close enough to fist fight yeah I reckon

then maybe Loki's got it okay but I'll pay ya yeah I'll pay that or what if Loki's

like what if Loki uses his illusions that's what I'm saying he can like duplicate himself yeah but more I think maybe he could be like, oh, I've got your ring. Sinestro would be like, you've got my ring?

Oh, no. And then he'd whatever, he'd turn back to just regular Sinestro. But then it turned out he didn't have the ring. Because it was in his mind. It was an illusion. Yeah. Loki doesn't do it. And he just cuts his head off.

Yes. But a lot of, movie Loki doesn't do a lot of illusions other than duplicate himself. Yeah, yeah. And make his clothes like phase in and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Puts on a nice suit. He does, doesn't he? Nice scarf.

Does Loki have that thing that can pull out someone's eye? Oh, maybe he does. Yeah, okay. Again, you've got to get in close though. Yeah, true, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to say Sinestro.

I think if you've got Sinestro on the back foot, you could beat him. Yeah. Because I think once he's kind of like... Frazzled. Frazzled. Yep. Once his hair's a little bit muzzed up.

Oh, then he's... Yeah. He's lost his confidence. You're right. Okay, yeah. Also, you just slap him right in his big forehead. Yeah. Slap.

Right in his dumb forehead. This is from Philip, official web slinger. This one, he calls it the battle of the heads. Modok versus Krang. Oh, that's a good one too. MODOK has the bigger face. Yep. I think MODOK's more off-putting.

I think if they both turned up, even Krang would be like, what? Do you know what I mean? Look, he'd be like, look, clearly I'm a brain with a face in it and I'm in a robot, man. What the hell are you? You're right. So, but I think MODOK has more shooty stuff, doesn't he?

MODOK definitely has more shooty stuff. MODOK can fly. Crane can grow. Oh yeah. I'd forgotten about that. Yeah. I mean, it depends on the cranes.

How does his brain also grow? I don't know. He's got a gem. Don't you remember? He's a gem in there. Yeah, okay, right, right. And MODOK's got the zappy...

He's got psychic powers as well. He's got missiles. He's got zappy rays. If you get MODOK's got the zappy He's got psychic powers as well He's got missiles He's got zappy rays He's got the jet propulsion out of his butt You know If you get MODOK out of that chair It's done

But also you get Krang out of his body They're all just flopping around They're just flopping around like fish On a football field You're right I think that MODOK could flop on top of Krang Kill him Crush him

Yeah you're right I think yeah I think you're right. I think that Modoc could flop on top of Krang, kill him. Crush him. Yeah, you're right. I think, yeah. I think you're right. What's going to happen is they run at each other. They just zap at each other. All the tech just explodes or whatever. And then they just, you know, all the suits and all the jet packs or whatever are ruined. And then you just flop around and then Modox collapses on on krang and then it's

over you're right yep great yeah unless you distract him with a sexy modem yeah you'd maybe because krang doesn't have any distractions correct unless you just like unless it's the bumbling shredder bumbling around yeah i bet if you yelled like dimension x at him a lot he'd freak him out yeah true he's always yelling Dimension X. This is another one of mine. Diamond Face versus Jaws the Shark. No, Jaws. Sure, so die another day villain, Diamond Face. Yes.

Who is a man with diamonds in his face. Versus Jaws. Who has a jaw in his face. Yes, Bond henchman Jaws. He's in a couple of Bond films. Yeah. Jaws is stronger, obviously. Yes.

Diamondface only has diamonds in his face. Correct. I don't think they do anything. Maybe a gun. Yeah, he's probably got a gun. And Jaws is one of the classic kind of Bond villains where he's an enormous wall of a man and you've got to punch him. And you go, oh, my fist! Yeah, and he laughs.

Yeah. Also, you... And then you've got to punch him in the mouth for some reason. You go, oh, he's got a metal mouth. Obviously. I'm such an idiot. And also, like,

Jaws, there's a scene, I can't remember which one, where Bond takes a live cable and puts it right in his mouth. Yep. And it doesn't kill him.

Correct. So, Diamondface is just a guy with diamonds in his face. Yeah. And he's got a gun guy with diamonds in his face. Yeah. And he's got a gun. He's got a gun. You'd have to shoot Jaws like, I don't know. Half a dozen times at least.

I reckon it's Jaws. Jaws can't run for shit though. Yeah, true. He can lumber at best. Yeah. You're right. Maybe Diamondface probably has maneuverability. Yeah.

But it's still Jaws. Yeah. Yeah. This is Jay, the official swinger of the podcast. Yeah. But it's still Jaws. Yeah. Yeah. This is Jay, the official swinger of the podcast. Oh. Dr. Evil from Austin Powers versus Dark Helmet from

Spaceballs. I haven't seen Spaceballs in ages. Neither have I, but man. It's probably Dr. Evil because he can... I don't remember Dark Helmet being in a...

No, he's got that friggin' ring sword. Yeah, he's got a Schwartz. Yeah, he's got a Schwartz. Dr. Evil they both at times weird Star Wars parodies

uh huh yep Schwartz it's the Schwartz cause he can use the Schwartz I think it's Schwartz yeah

also I like Rick Moranis more yeah ooh snap I know right Mike Myers apparently

revived Dr. Evil recently on like Saturday Night Live or something ooh behave indeed how who's the modern day Rick Moranis revived Dr. Evil recently on Saturday Night Live or something. Ooh, behave. Indeed. Who's the modern day Rick Moranis?

It's not still Rick Moranis, is it? No, he's sort of retired. You know who it could be? Yes. Who's the sidekick? Is it Rachel? Maybe it's Rachel Dratch. Who's that?

She's like the weird looking Tina Fey. Okay, sure. She's occasionally in 30 Rock as like a weird lady Yep I know Okay I know exactly who she is Maybe it's Rachel Dratch I don't know

I was going to say Steve Zahn No No That's a really good question It is I really like Mick Raddus Yeah yeah

I think something Tragic happened to him When he stopped acting Yeah his wife died Yeah That sucks Why has that come up Twice this episode?

I don't know. We love to rub salt into the wounds, I think. Why do we? This is Jarius. I always see him on Twitter. I don't know whether you actually pronounce it. J-A-U-R-I-U-S. Is it Jarius?

I don't know. Yeah, could be. It's glorious. Oh, yes. Glorious Jarius. Is official Sean Connery saying the word snickerdoodle? It's because he's got a more menacing presence. It's probably true.

Bane versus Winter Soldier. Should we go movie versions? Let's do both. All right. Okay, movie versions. Let's do movie versions. Last two seconds, probably. Yep, Winter Soldier.

Winter Soldier, metal arm, rips the face mask off, he suffocates or whatever happens. We never really figure out what happens when he pulls the mask off, right? No, yeah. And he could. It would be unpleasant. For yeah. But it's... And he could... It'd be unpleasant. For you. But it wouldn't be unpleasant. For you.

It'd be unpleasant for him. Yeah. Like, he wouldn't just punch it. He'd just grab it. Tear it off. Yeah. That'd be it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Exactly. And how long can Bane last without that mask on? Not very long. I would say not very long, yeah. Again, we don't really know, though. We don't. That might be a faint.

No, because Batman punches him enough where the little things come out, and then it drops him. Oh, yeah, good point. So I think if you took the whole thing off, I think he's probably got about 10 to 20 seconds. No, maybe 20 seconds max. I reckon, no, I think you're right. I reckon Winter Soldier jumps him. Yep. Bane goes in for the crush, like the clutch to get him in there.

And then just Winter Soldier just crushes his whole head. Like the whole thing. Yeah. Probably. Because the thing about that Captain America Winter Soldier fight is you don't want Winter Soldier to get a hand on you. Yeah. Like you just got to stop.

Like you just got to be on the back foot. And I think because Winter Soldier is surprisingly durable. Because he was experimented on in World War II. He's got some super-duramy stuff. He's more durable than you'd think. I think Bane would go in just to assume he's going to just crush him in seconds. And then Winter Soldier would just tear his head off. Yeah.

So, yeah. It'd be good though, wouldn't it? Yeah, really good. Because Bane is just a guy. Yeah, ultimately. With a weakness. Yeah, true. Yeah, he doesn't even...

He doesn't really have venom so much. No, he doesn't. It's a gas to stop the pain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a regular guy. Yeah. We could have fought him.

Yeah. It would have been really good. Would you rather fight Bane or Tom Hardy? Probably Tom Hardy. Yeah. Okay. Just a guy.

Movie though. Not movie. Comic though. Yep. Who wins there? I still reckon it'd be... Winter Soldier would be pretty good. Yeah. He's very...

Also, in his prime... Here's the thing. In his prime, which is now, Winter Soldier is the man on the wall. He's a guy who... So, in the Marvel Universe, there's one guy. He's called the man on the wall. Yeah. And he defends the earth

against everything is he from oh he goes out and assassinates people yeah he'll he'll kill a whole civilization it used to be

it used to be Nick Fury and then it was a guy before him yeah and etc etc it's been you know for a hundred years or whatever

I feel like as well even though Bane is super tactical I feel like with the soldiers probably more tactical yes I'd say so. And more tactile.

Oh, yes. Also, his arm can come off and fly around. And that counts for something. It counts for a lot, mate. But I'd say in his prime, Winter Soldier now has enough guns and gadgets to just... Like, that's a very short fight. Yeah. If he can nuke a planet, if necessary, he can kill one guy.

Bane's not bulletproof, right? Correct. But you'd have to put a lot of bullets in him also you just hit the tank on his back correct yes yeah

and then it's all all over bloody Bane yeah what a 90s hack yeah um Freddy Krueger

versus Leonardo DiCaprio from Inception I maintain he is a villain oh that's good because he's a thief okay that's good did you come up with this one I did oh that's good Because he's a thief Okay that's good Did you come up with this one I did

Oh that's good Thank you Clever Yeah okay Who's dream are we in My brother's got one next Which one You know the one

Okay who's dream are we in I guess DiCaprio's dream How do you Could you Because in real life If it's in the football field It's DiCaprio Because he's a real person okay it's the character of freddy krueger freddy krueger is just a burned corpse right but you couldn't i yeah you couldn't get in freddy

krueger's dream yeah true that's what i think yeah so yeah okay so it has to so cob falls asleep yes let's say for the point of the for argument's sake, they're both asleep on the football field. Okay. Okay? Right. Is that fair? Or Hobb's there by himself and he falls asleep. Yeah, exactly.

Because Freddy Krueger would outweigh him initially. That's true. He fell asleep. Yeah, that's true. Okay, so he's in Cobb's dream. Hobb doesn't have a- Cobb. Stop saying Hobb. Is it Hobb or Cobb? It's Cobb's dream. Hob doesn't have a... Cobb. Stop saying Hob.

Is it Hob or Cobb? It's Cobb. Is it? Yes. Okay. Let's just call him Leonardo DiCaprio. Okay, great. Let's call him Cobb.

All right, so Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't have a good grasp of his own dream space because of his wife. Yeah. But in that scenario, would his mind wife help him out? Very unlikely. So she'd let Kruger kill him? Yes. Because then he'd be out of the dream, wouldn't he?

Yeah, exactly, yeah. So he's probably in all sorts. Yeah, he's in all sorts of strife. He's got guns. No, he couldn't. He couldn't out-dream him, could he? But see, in the Inception scenario, if he kills himself, he's out of the dream again. Yes.

How deep is he? That's a good let's you've made this unnecessarily complicated but also you're right if he kills himself and he wakes up again if freddy krueger's out if he's been awake for a really long time yeah then he just falls asleep again yeah you're right it's just a series of him killing himself and then waking up and then go back to sleep again so but if but if Freddy Krueger kills him, he's dead. Yeah. And if it's Freddy Krueger at his full power, then he probably could quite easily.

He can come out of a television. Yep. He can come from under the bed. Come out of that train. He can come out of the big wave that is in the hotel. Yep. He could come out of, he could be in that, he could be in that carpet. Yes.

In the opening scene uh yeah I think it's he could be behind Yellen Page I think hey what's that behind me ah

I think he could be anyway that's not how Yellen Page talks that's exactly how she talks he could be he could be anywhere

or anyone yep and Leonardo DiCaprio does not have a good grasp of his psyche but yes if it's Leonardo DiCaprio does not have a good grasp of his psyche. But, if it's Leonardo DiCaprio in his element

where he's content. On the Titanic. Where he gets his kids back, where he's secure in himself. Yeah. Would that give him the advantage? Maybe.

But he's got a lot to fight for because Freddy Krueger, child killer. Yeah. And he'd know he'd come after his kids next, wouldn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And even if DiCaprio did kill him, Krueger would come back for Child killer. Yeah. And he'd know he'd come after his kids next, wouldn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And even if DiCaprio did kill him, Krueger would come back for his kids. Yeah. But also, all you have to do with Freddy Krueger... Actually, no, this is easy. All you have to do to get Freddy Krueger is you have to wake up while you're holding him. Yeah.

And then he's in the real world. So you grab him, you kill yourself, and then you're up, and then you just kill him. He's just a corpse. You just beat him to him. Yeah. And then he's in the real world. So you grab him, you kill yourself, and then you're up, and then you just, you kill him. He's just a corpse. You just beat him to death. Yeah.

No, he comes back as like a whatever zombie man or whatever. Whatever he's at. And then you just, then, I mean, Cobb's not really a fighter, but. No. Do you think Cobb would figure that out, though?

Yes. Okay. Because that's what he does. Yeah. He's, you know. He's inceptioning. He's inceptioning. Exactly.

Inceptioning. He's inceptional. He's inceptioning. Exactly. Inceptioning. He's inceptional. He's exceptional at inceptioning. Yeah. No, I'm going to give it to Cobb. He's fighting for his kids. He figures it out because he's tactical. All right.

I've got 5% left on my iPad, so this is going to be very interesting. Okay. All right. Quick, email it to me. All right. Hang on. I'll just read that. Air drop it.

We've got so many options. Hang on. I'll do this one. It's for my brother. Okay. Okay. So, you'll just read that. Air drop it. We've got so many options. Hang on, I'll do this one. It's for my brother. Okay. Okay, so you're in this scenario. It's you versus the T-800 versus Ultron versus Sauron versus Boba Fett. No.

No, I'm not doing that. You do it. I'm not doing it. Who was it? How many people is he? It's too complicated. T-800, Ultron, Sauron, Boba Fett, Mason. It's Ultron.

Well, Boba Fett's out because he's the worst, obviously. T-800. Sauron is Christopher Lee, so he's out. Yeah, he's out. I could beat him. I would say that you could not beat T-800 or Ultron. I think you could beat Sauron. I reckon Ultron would destroy the T-800 for being inferior technology.

Okay. So now it's just me versus Ultron. All right, fair enough. Hang on. Do I just press airdrop? How does this work? I don't know. Just push air drop. It's not doing anything. I'll just message it to you. Okay. How many are left? Good Lord. No, not that many, but we've got the letters. Okay. So Ultron, what did we say? I don't remember. Yeah. It's, it's, look, it's down to me now. Why am I in this? Also, I'm not

a villain. Well. Oh no. Look, I think I win by default, I'm not a villain. Well. Oh, no. Look, I think I win by default because I'm not a villain. I'm a nice man. This is from Blake. Blake B. Good dude. Green Goblin, Willem Dafoe versus Green Goblin, Dane DeHaan. Yeah, Willem Dafoe, right? He's got more pumpkin bombs. More pumpkin bombs, precisely.

He's got the same amount of pumpkin bombs. He's super strong. Yeah. Dane DeHaan is a guy with a disease. He's a man with a disease, precisely. He's got the same amount of pumpkin bombs. He's super strong. Yeah. Dane DeHaan is a guy with a disease. He's a man with a disease, ultimately. Yeah, like, that suit is life support. Yeah, it is. Like, if you take that off, he's dead. Yeah.

And Willem Dafoe, that's just an armour. Yeah. And a mask. And he's super strong and he's got that weird rangy, wiry strength. And a weird face, right? Also, somehow, Willem Dafoe is a better designed Green Goblin. Yeah. How does that work?

Like, the Dane DeHaan Green Goblin is very... It's Green Goblin via Linkin Park. Right? He's so Linkin Park, that guy. I was going to say Linkin Park mixed with Evil Ed. Yeah. Oh, the worst. It's Dafoe, though, right?

Yeah. Stronger, better. Faster, stronger. Yep stronger yep just like the song just like the song this is from vinnie now this isn't an official he's the official villain and dickhead of the podcast they're my words double whammy um uh this is this isn't strictly football field rules but we can say this takes place in a football field yeah definitely prequels versus sequels versus gritty reboots, which is worse? Ah, good question. Okay. There's almost never been a good prequel, right?

Yeah, okay. Temple of Doom? It's racist. Yeah. It's really racist. It is. Like, even at the time. Like, in the 80s

when you could be racist. You shouldn't have been, but you could. People at the time were like, this is quite... I think they were like, like the Indian could. People at the time were like, this is quite... I think they were like... Like, the Indian government were like... Like, officially were like, we do not...

What have you done? We do not eat monkey brains and snakes. This is an act of war. And use child slavery. Yeah. Labor. Yeah, look. X-Men First Class.

And... Yep. Days of Future Past, which is technically a side prequel sequel sidequel. Yeah. 300 prequel sequels reboots. Yeah. That's not good, is it?

There's no... Okay, prequel. Okay, prequels are definitely off the table as the best. Yep. They're out. Yep. Reboots? There's a few good...

Fright Night, I think, is a better movie than... Yep, okay. Reboot is better. Yeah, yeah. The Freddy Krueger one's probably not better. Mm-hmm. There's a few good Fright Night I think is a better movie than Reboot is better Yeah yeah The Freddy Krueger one's probably not better Prometheus is definitely not a better prequel by the way Yeah definitely exactly I don't think there's a lot of gritty good gritty reboots

I'd say there's probably more Good sequels? No I'd say there's more gritty There's better reboots than prequels Yes I think But sequels are definitely No, I say there's more gritty... There's better reboots than prequels. Yes. I think. But sequels are definitely... Because there's so many examples of the second film in a series being better.

Empire Strikes Back. Temple of Doom. No, no, no. No. Racist. Even for like two minutes ago when we said that, that was racist then. Yeah. When it was okay to be racist.

Yeah, way back then, two minutes ago. So yeah, I think prequels definitely worst. Sequels then. Yeah. When it was okay to be racist. Yeah, way back then, two minutes ago. So yeah, I think prequel's definitely worst. Sequel's best. Yep. Last one. Sean. The official Sean of the dead. Huh.

Green Lantern's gas cloud villain Parallax. Yep. Versus Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer gas cloud villain Galactus. That's such a good one. He's also added television series The Flash gas cloud villain Mist. Oh a good one he's also added television series the flash gas cloud villain mist oh yeah they're all good i think we we rule out this yeah small very small potatoes yes as far as someone made of gas i'm glad that i'm now uniquely qualified to judge this one because i've just seen some of green lantern 2011 whenever so basically we've got

a giant guy who's sort of shaped like Galactus A giant cloud that's sort of Occasionally sort of made the Galactus head shape And a big patch of yellow fog As you call it But at one point that grows a face Yeah it does So it's got some

Grumpy I'm gonna eat you up Grumpy It's got some tangibility Yeah yeah yeah How's Galactus even beaten? Does Johnny Storm do it? Or do they do it with his teamwork?

They all team up. If it wasn't one person going, I'm going to look it up. Oh, God. I know that Johnny Storm gets all the powers to beat Doom. Yeah, uh-huh. But... Oh, right.

Silver Surfer does it. Okay. Yeah. So essentially, Silver Surfer's like, I'm going to defend the Earth. I've changed my mind about everything. I'm the voice of Morpheus. Yeah.

And then he flies into Galactus and there's a big energy explosion or whatever. Yep. I have no memory of this. Also, it would seem odd that the Silver Surfer who has less power, who's less powerful than Galactus can defeat Galactus. That's weird, right? Is his powers in any way based on like believing in yourself? Oh, maybe if that is the case, then he definitely believes himself. I mean, maybe in that movie version.

I don't remember or care. No, I don't. You know what? I'm going to give it to Parallax, Gasclad Parallax, because at least in that film, there's some foreshadowing of that. Okay. Because when Hal Jordan is getting trained... Why did you watch this?

Why this week? I was just like why not? I'm like nothing to do That's so surprising to me It's weird isn't it? I don't know Like why now? I just don't

It's weird right? But basically Hal Jordan's being trained And Sinestro makes an artificial sun behind him With some gravity And he's like that's gravity And you have to be careful of that in space the bigger you are the more gravity something something and then hal jordan remembers that and he flies close to the sun and parallax follows him wait just to be

clear i can't remember this the the gravity that he makes is it a green sun yes okay good but in the in the end of the movie it's a regular's the regular sun. It's just the regular sun. The sun. It's the sun. Yeah. And then he's like... Hal Jordan's like, the bigger you are, the more you... Something, something, you fall into the sun. Even if you're made of gas.

Even if you're made of gas. Especially if you're made of gas. Yeah. And then he falls into the sun and then he escapes on like... Using planes. Using planes. Yeah, exactly. Okay.

Also, I feel like Parallax could inhale Galactus. Because he's inhaling a bunch of stuff, isn't he? Yeah, he's inhaling heaps of stuff. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Also, I feel like Parallax could inhale Galactus. Because he's inhaling a bunch of stuff, isn't he? Yeah, he's inhaling heaps of stuff. You're right. I bet he could, like, he'd probably be a great smoker. Yeah, definitely. One of the best. Oh.

Loves his electronic cigarettes. Boy, he does. So good. Yeah, so I'm going to say Parallax. Yep. Also, that scene's exactly the same As the scene in Iron Man Where Iron Man flies into The sun?

Yeah No he flies up into You know Upper atmosphere Oh okay Yeah yeah yeah Iron Munger follows him And the armour freezes

Yeah Exactly the same You're right And then he makes green planes And he escapes Yeah exactly Thank you Yeah

Well you know what it's time for Mason What's it time for? What we reading What we gonna read oh yes i'm doing the thing what are we reading today i'd love to do this again though but i think we need to break it up yeah yeah definitely yeah um the this podcast partnership we need to break it up definitely we'll do it on separate independent. We'll make independent podcasts. Who would you get if you had to do a separate podcast?

Probably Julian McMahon. I guess I'll take Ben Kingsley. I regret this now. I want Kingsley! Kingsley could do voices. Yeah, that's true. He'd tell me some great odd set stories.

McMahon would be like, I was in Charmed and you'd be like, didn't watch it. Did you watch it? He was in Nip Tuck. He was in Nip Tuck for like 10, didn't watch it. Did you watch it? He was in Nip-Tuck for like 10 years. Yeah.

Anyway, what you read? I bet he's got some great Neighbours set stories. Oh, so good, yep. Well, I actually got J-Raw, internet J-Raw guy who's on the YouTube. Oh, yes. We've been chatting on the YouTube and whatnot. He sent me a copy of Justice League, Throne of Atlantis. Oh, yes. Which I've yet to watch. So that's what

I'm going to read. Oh, yes. But just on the topic of him, he's got a really good comic book channel and he's kind of revamped it. He's adding some extra stuff. It basically does like reviews and opinion pieces and does a lot of Mortal Kombat stuff. He's going to do like weekly news roundups, Flash and Arrow reviews, live streams of urine. And, you know, bold, bold, very bold.

Yeah. But yeah, definitely recommend checking that out. But, but I'm going to read just, I'm going to see that. I've heard it's okay. Have you heard anything about it?

Not at all. Yeah. Cool. What are you going to read? Well, what I gonna be read, what I read, well,

I watched a bird man a couple of times, as I mentioned, that's, it's really good. It's really, well, people are, opinions are mixed. I know some people as I mentioned it's really good well people opinions are mixed

I know some people are like it's okay but I enjoyed it a lot I enjoyed it enough to see it with two different groups of people so that's pretty good it's very engaging

I think the performances are good is he better than Jake Gyllenhaal in Nightcrawler I think Gyllenhaal has the edge actually I think

yeah it's good it's a black comedy it's lighter in, I think. Yeah, it's good. It's a black comedy. It's lighter in tone than you'd think. And it's also... A lot of people have told me that they were misled by the trailer. A lot of people think there's... Like it's an action-y thing. Yeah, a lot of people think there's more...

There's going to be more action in it than there is. But it's essentially just a talking heads kind of film. Cool. Kind of thing. But it's really good. Alright. Everybody has a great performance. Ed Norton's great in it.

Emma Stone's great in it. It's about time Ed Norton did something good. Yeah. Like, he's a great actor. But what's he been doing for the last ten years? That's really good alright everybody's great performance Ed Norton's great in it Emma Stone's great in it it's about time Ed Norton did something good yeah like he's a great actor but what's he been doing for the last 10 years that's a good point just living off

Incredible Hulk those royalties and what I also read I read somebody recommended to me it's on Dynamite Comics it's called King's Watch and it's essentially

a modern day Defenders of the Earth it's Flash Gordon and the Phantomenders of the Earth It's Flash Gordon and the Phantom and Mandrake teaming up to save the world. That sounds pretty great. Is it great? It's actually pretty good I'm not being sarcastic by the way. Yeah no it's actually

really good like they've got they nail the characters and it's fun and it's not super dumb and ridiculous Yeah it's real good. It's pretty good It's a super dumb and ridiculous. Okay. Yeah, it's real good. It's pretty good. It's a nice little thing. I'm into it.

Magic still doesn't make any sense, though. Well, how many tigers does the Phantom have the power of? He doesn't have the power of any tigers. Just a regular guy. That's interesting, isn't it? I also read there's a new Star Wars issue one comic. Oh, yes. Which is actually quite good.

The faces, people say, are a little bit inconsistent, which is probably true. is probably true does it just retell no no it's set between a new hope and empire this is the first because everything's scrapped oh this is like the first so this is because it used to be between star wars and empire there was another story called splinter in the mind's eye yeah i read that that's from like that i think it's from like this mid 70s yeah maybe something like that 70s or early 80s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's scrapped and there's a new interim story. I'm going to do a video on basically what's scrapped and what's not.

Okay, cool. But essentially, yeah, it's pretty much the answer is everything's scrapped. Great. Letters. It's time for letters. Is that what a segment's called? Yeah, letters. It's time for letters.

It is time for letters. Hey, Nick and James. Hey. Just wanted to start by saying I love the podcast and Keep It Up reminds me of home as I am Australian, but I've spent the last 10 years living in Dubai. Oh, it's Julian McMahon. It's Julian McMahon. Great. Heartthrob Julian McMahon.

The Hey Hey It's Saturday reference. Sorry. The Hey Hey It's Saturday reference this most recent podcast. Gone be killed me with laughter, but probably went over a lot of people's heads. That's good. I'm glad one person got it. Yeah, absolutely. It was worth it.

Ultimately, it wasn't worth it, but all right. Worth putting you on the spot. Fantastic. Worth it. I've been trying to spread the podcast as much as I can around here, and I think it's catching on. Either that or people were just telling me they listened to it so I'll shut up about the Red Hot Comic Book news and buttholes.

That's a good way to share the podcast, isn't it? To help us out, isn't it? Tell people. Absolutely. Tell peeps. Just wondering, who would you like to see take on the role of Hal Jordan in the DC Cinematic Universe? And don't say J.K. Simmons. Damn it. Good job, guys. Josh Pierce, can I be the official stranded in the desert of the podcast?

Yes. Yes. Also, if you could take some sweet photos of some of this, where this film Sex and the City 2. That'd be fantastic, yeah. I would love that. That'd be good. Who would you want to see? People say Nathan Fillion. He'd be pretty good.

Hot shot. He's a hot shot. Yeah, he's probably a bit old now. He's probably a bit old, isn't he? All right. Would you be okay if Ryan Reynolds came back, having just watched that? I didn't like it. He's not terrible, is he? He's probably a bit old, isn't he? All right. Would you be okay if Ryan Reynolds came back, having just watched that? I didn't like it. He's not terrible, is he?

He's not terrible, but he's... Wait a minute. Is he Han Solo-y enough? No. Really? I was going to say he does it too much, if anything. Oh, really? He tries too much.

Right, okay, right, right. No, he didn't pull it off. Hmm. Ah. Yeah. Summer abs. Great. What about like a Ryan Gooseling?

No, I don't think Gooseling... He doesn't have the... He doesn't have the... I don't know. He... I don't want to see young, hot-shot Hal Jordan. I want to see like an older guy. You do want a grizzled Hal Jordan, don't you?

Yeah, a grizzled Hal Jordan. That would be cool. How cool would that be if his introduction to the Justice League, he comes back from space and he's like, Jesus. I've been in space for a long time. I've seen some stuff. Yeah.

That'd be great. Yeah, absolutely. So who, maybe like a Bruce Greenwood? He's like a million years old, right? He's not that old. He's very old. He's great. Yeah, but.

He's too old, you're right. He's older than Fillion, by like a decade, surely. I know, but so you're talking, you're not talking like 55. No, I'm like. You're talking like 40. Like, yeah, like 35, 40, something like that, yeah. Okay, fair enough. Fassbender. He wouldn't, he couldn't do it.

No, but that would be good. That would be good. Yeah. Who looks good with grey in the temples? Benedict Cumberbatch. No. As Doctor Strange. Ron Perlman.

He could be Kilowog. That would be good. Yeah, I was going to say, that's great. Like now, all we think of Ron Perlman is like a guy inside an enormous suit. An enormous, ugly looking suit. That's what he's been reduced to. He's only done it once. Yeah, exactly.

Oh, he's in Beauty and the Beast. Yeah. Oh man, that's a good question. I'm going to stick with Bruce Greenwood. Fine. What about Clooney? Yeah, maybe. If we've got affleck as yeah batman maybe but i think i think that's too much star power yeah you probably like that'd be distracting yeah like oh they're gonna have they'd have they'd build in little running

gags and the thing about how their oceans 11 oceans 11 Eleven or something. Ocean's Eleven and... Yeah. Even though Affleck wasn't in it. Yeah, exactly, yeah. No, maybe not. Okay. I'll think of one. Bill Murray it is. Great. That would be good.

You know, we're going to do an episode, I think, on cancelled comic book movies. We're going to talk about the Jack Black Greenland movie that was never made. Interesting, though. It's from Rachel R. I would absolutely love it if you guys gave a shout out to my friend, Carlos Gonzalez from Pennsylvania USA

both him and I are huge fans of you guys I listen in every week to hear you Carlos thinks you guys are super hilarious and talks non-stop about you guys

nice yeah that's good never stop doing podcasts and sharing humor and happiness around the globe love you guys thank you Rachel and Carlos

shouts outs oh so many shouts outs to those guys shouts shouts outs hey guys I just wanted first sorry I just wanted to first... Sorry. I first wanted to say,

keep up the good work with the show. I listen to it on my night shifts, stacking wine, and they never fail to make me smile. The wine or us? Wine never fails to make you smile. Let me tell you. Just want to ask a few things.

Can I get a shout out for the local upcoming Comic Con in town inside a town in the UK, inside a town in the UK called Cheltenham. You know Cheltenham. We have a Cheltenham. Do we? Yeah.

Where is it? Too nice. It's not very popular. I imagine British Cheltenham is a lot better. There's a lot of British kind of name stuff, isn't there? Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, it's called True Believers and it's the first year and more people hear about

it, the better. So yeah. Do you like a comic festival con? I do. I don't get the chance to go to a lot, but I do once I'm there. I once went to one and somebody bumped me and I threw a can at them. Oh, you're thinking of a different kind of festival. Okay, sure.

Yeah. That's from Ed Chidley. Please don't butcher my name. Chid-lay. Ali White. It's Chid-lay, isn't it? Not Chid-lee. I'm butchering it.

Yeah, probably. No matter which way you went, you were wrong. True believers, Cheltenham. If you're British, get there. Yeah. If you're not British, go to the Australian one. Yeah. It's probably just as good.

Last one. Last email. I'm ready. Just a short one. It's from Kyle. In the same way a dog can kill a man, could Superdog kill Superman? You mean Crypto the Superdog? Yes.

Unlikely. Wait, maybe though. i didn't even think about that yeah it's pretty good isn't it that's a that's a short one but it makes you think that really does make you think hang on let me think he's got all the powers of superman essentially he does and he's super intelligent and he's a dog and he's got dog rage tough call i think it's possible I think if he Like I don't know

Maybe Superman's a slave What if Superman's wearing One of those carpet suits That's made of kryptonite Then he's dead Oh good point But it's not the dog That killed him is it

I think it's possible Yeah Theoretically it's possible I guess so yeah Because technically It'd just be like Superman It'd be like he's a normal man Being attacked by a dog

And you don't want that You don't want that I'm saying yeah It's definitely possible That's a great versus though Not villains I don't even think That was related to it

Okay next time It's heroes versus animals Or could the bat dog Beat Batman No Damn it Ace the bat hound Yeah? No. Damn it. Ace the Bat Hound? Yeah.

Unlikely. Yeah. No. What other dogs are there? I mean, yeah. Also, that dog turned super evil once, that Crypto. Yeah, yeah. It's like a gritty reboot of it.

Yeah. Do you remember? Sort of. From like the 90s. Anyway, it doesn't matter. That's the show for this week. Fantastic. I just wanted to say a quick thank you, Because I got 100,000 subscribers on the YouTube

Congratulations Isn't that amazing? That is amazing I mean Does it mean anything? Do I get a plaque? Do you get a different coloured star? Yeah

I don't know But it's cool You get a letter from the Queen I think Oh that'd be nice Yeah that's right Yeah I just think it's super cool I don't know whether I'll make a video to say thank you or whatever I don't want to

Your way to suck up No I don't want to make like a big video to say thank you or whatever. I don't want to... Yeah, way to suck up. No, I don't want to make a big deal of it or whatever. I just appreciate people watching and subscribing. And a lot of people who see the podcast there come here. Yeah, that's true. Which is cool. So thank you, Mason. I haven't subscribed.

What? That's not what I do. Wait, if you... Okay. I don't subscribe to things and I don't if you... Okay. I don't subscribe to things and I don't favourite anything on Twitter. I don't know why. I've just never done it.

It'd be weird to start now. I think I don't favourite things because I see it as like a pity kind of retweet. Oh, yeah, because it's not as good. That's true. It's not as good. So I normally don't, but I feel like maybe I should favourite things.

What does it even mean, though? Does it go into like a bank of things you favourite? Yeah, there's a little favourites thing. Can other people see it? Yeah. Okay, maybe I will start doing it. So it does mean something. But then go into like a bank of things you favourite? Yeah, there's a little favourites thing. Can other people see it? Yeah. Okay, maybe I will start doing it. So it does mean something. But then it's just you favouriting people going,

Hey, I love your show. You're the best. And then you favourite it. That's weird. Yeah. What are you? Some sort of crazy egomaniac? Maybe.

James Gunn favourited my favourite. I know. We all know. I've got James Gunn. I've got Pete Holmes. Yeah. Two favourites. So there you go.

Nice. Yeah. Where can people find us? Oh, they can find us at Weekly Planet Pod on Gmail and Facebook and Twitter. And I'm at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter. I'm at MrSundayMovies. Where else can they find us? All over the place.

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or do whatever you want yeah if you can if not stop listening yeah we're putting a foot down no that's fine

we don't care yeah I wish that people like these are the conversations we'd have anyway. Yes. Like, it's really... If people don't listen... Like, we really appreciate that people listen.

But if people didn't, we'd just be in this room doing it anyway. I think we put a loose structure on it, though. Yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah. But other than that, yeah. You're probably right. You are right.

All right. So, next week, I don't know. Something else. I reckon we should do upcoming movies. All right. Most anticipated. Yep, let's do it. Because the year has started already. Yes. So next week, I don't know, something else. I reckon we should do upcoming movies. All right. Most anticipated. Yep. Let's do it.

Because the has started already. Yes. So yeah. And just before Kingsman comes out as well. Oh yeah, I'm excited about that. Which is super cool. Spoiler alert,

I'm excited about that. Oh, that's right. I did watch you read, and I did read that. Yeah, what did you think? The Secret Service.

Look, that's a bad start. They've, they've clearly, would you favorite it on Twitter? No, I would not. Look, they've made, they've,... Would you favourite it on Twitter? No, I would not. Look, they've made the basic plot, based on the trailer for the movie...

They've made a lot out of it. Yeah, they've kept the very basic plot, it seems, and they've added a lot to it. They've added a lot of character, I think. And that's for the best, because I don't think it's great. I agree. I'm about 50-50... It's okay, right, though? Yeah. It's okay right though. Yeah.

It's not terrible. Like I'm. I'm about 50-50 with Mark Miller's work. I think. And I think. You think it's not meta enough. Probably. It's so meta.

Yeah. It's. It's cray cray meta. It's. I like. I like some of the writing of Mark Miller. And I like the art of Dave Gibbons. But I think in this case.

Doesn't work. He needed. Like. He's. He normally. One of the writing of Mark Millar, and I like the art of Dave Gibbons, but I think in this case... Doesn't work. He needed... Like, he normally... One of the artists that usually goes to this is Lionel Yu, who did... He did Superior and he did Nemesis. Yeah, yeah. And I think they're a great combination. Because they're so, like, visceral and...

Yeah, yeah. And I think if they got him for The Secret Service, I think it would have looked amazing and I would be more forgiving of how kind of... Clunky? Clunky and kind of basic. Like, it's kind of like a very... It's kind of drawn... I don't mean this to be insulting.

Well, maybe it is an insult. It's very traditional, I guess, the way it's drawn. It is very traditional, yeah. And you're right, it doesn't necessarily work for this big hyper-reality. Like, Dave Gibbons works on, say, Watchmen because all the characters are very distinctive and he gets a chance to, you know,

draw Doctor Manhattan different from Night Owl, different from Aussie Mandy, so whatever. Gibbo! Sorry. But when he's just dealing with a bunch of guys in suits with crew cuts, everybody all starts to look the same. Yeah, fair point.

So it's, you know... You're right, because he looks pretty much like his uncle. Yeah, he really does. I mean, I guess that also... They've got different got different colored ties yeah and that also sort of happens in the trailer they kind of look they kind of yeah true that is true yeah it's also interesting that they've just kind of there's the the casting is whoever i guess they thought was the best like they've changed like you know somebody might be black in the in the comics they're white in the movie or vice versa or whatever you then because the villain in the comic like this isn't a spoiler

is kind of like a Mark Zuckerberg kind of dude. Yeah. Like a Steve Jobs kind of combination. Yeah. And in the movie, it's Samuel L. Jackson. Yeah. So, yeah.

And they've replaced the dude with blade legs for a woman with blade legs. With blade legs. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It's just everywhere, isn't it? It's crazy. Yeah.

But I think it's, I mean, by all accounts, it's supposed to be very, very good. Excellent. And I hope it is. Yeah. That's a precursor to next week. Yeah, but I think it's, I mean, by all accounts, it's supposed to be very, very good. Excellent. And I hope it is. Yeah. That's a precursor to next week. Yeah, absolutely. We're going to say all those things again. It's going to be pretty good.

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