The Weekly Planet - 69 Fantastic Four Is...Something?

Episode Date: February 2, 2015

This week we’re talking the new origin for The Joker, X-Man: Apocalypse, Batman V Superman, Ghostbuster 3 and how Fantastic Four is shaping up. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet Official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com My name is James, editor at that website With me as always is my co-host Nick Mason Same couch this week Yes, uncomfortable But in crystal clear stereo

Or mono, we've got new equipment i'm gonna put it in mono you don't want to listen to a podcast where it's like ear to ear for different people i heard that i heard that in a podcast a while back and yeah it was they did it accidentally they put it in stereo and it was super uncomfortable to listen to but yes we've got new equipment so this is either going to go really well like it's going to be super crisp audio yeah or we're going to accidentally delete this episode and you know And you know what our backup plan is? We've decided we do nothing, right? Yeah, that's right.

We take a week off. If we lose an episode, that's... I don't know what other podcasts do when they have a backup plan if we lose an episode. Do we change topics and do a short one? No, we're just not going to do it. Nah, that's it. We're going to take one off.

Canned. Yeah. Maybe forever. We've built up enough good faith, right? Yeah. Nah, actually people get pretty bad when it's late yeah

bad faith bad faith it's great to be here this is going to be great yes definitely this is a podcast about stuff it is

comic book movie anewers yep and and just you know movies in general and whatever and whatever we want to talk about

sometimes local government we do talk about that no one's interested in that that's the drop off I think that's why we don't have

any goodwill because sometimes we get political despite not knowing anything about politics if we lose one local politics episode oh great

fantastic okay straight to the news yes barely the roughly the news I never remember which it is what the segment is it's roughly the news

good it is this way unless yeah okay Rose Byrne you familiar with her yes great Australian actor woman that's how you say it I never remember which it is. It's roughly the news. Good. It is this way. Yeah, okay. Rose Byrne. You're familiar with her? Yes.

Great Australian actor woman. That's how you say it. Has she renounced her citizenship yet, as all Australian actors do eventually? I don't think so, no. Okay, good on her. Yeah. She's great. I think the first thing I remember seeing her in was In Two Hands. Yes, that's true.

Which is a very good Australian movie. It's one of the five good Australian movies. All the good Australian movies are crime movies I think yeah that's probably true so Two Hands what's that other one Three Hands yeah Three Hands

the sequel what's that other crime movie that came out Animal Kingdom is a good one I think that's a bit overrated

yeah anyway great I think it's good performances there's some Ben Mendelsohn who I love but no I think it's just okay yeah anyway I think it's because it's Australian people jump on board Ben Mendelsohn who I love but no I think it's just okay yeah anyway

I think it's because it's Australian people jump on board yeah anyway I had a story about Ben Mendelsohn the other day

but it's inappropriate for this podcast I'm going to tell it to you off the air please do okay so yeah anyway Rose Byrne

who was in oh yeah we're talking about news we were that was the thing she was in X-Men First Class Bridesmaid

she's great in that great in Bridesmaids but in X in First Class she played Moira McTaggart. Oh, yes. She was like a CIA kind of government person running and putting together the X-Men team. She's going to return in X-Men Apocalypse, which is set roughly 20 years after First Class.

Oh, she's going to have some big shoulder pads. Do you think they're going to go overboard with the 80s styling? Well, there is the rumour that they're putting Dazzler in. Yes. As we've discussed on this podcast, I can't remember which episode it is, but there was a cancelled Dazzler movie. It was the last cancelled comic book movie one that we did. Yeah, yeah.

And it sounds like an incredible Technicolor nightmare. Yeah. The band Kiss were in it. Yep. And they have superpowers. Robin Williams is in it yep yeah

so it nearly got off the ground it was the village people were in it yeah exactly yep and they all have powers

of their own yeah I'd love to get that animated actually I might speak to Sean Willis about it yeah so what essentially

we're saying is we hope that X-Men Apocalypse is that movie that exact film it's like Parallel Dimensions and yeah yeah V-Dub Dimensions and V-Dub, like horse-drawn V-Dub cars.

That's right, yeah. Bizarre. But yeah, what do you think about that? Moira McTaggart back in... Great. It'll be a nice... That'll be the link. Yeah.

That'll be the bridge between the two. Exactly. Yeah. We'll get to the Fantastic Four as well. They've kind of painted themselves in the corner though with this time period which kind of stops them from crossing over the Fantastic Four. well. They've kind of painted themselves in the corner, though, with this time period, which

kind of stops them from crossing over the Fantastic Four. That's true. In that era, anyway. So what are they going to do? Like, are they going to time travel to the present day at some point? Is there going to be a crossover? Well, they've talked about it, because technically they can be in the same universe. Right.

Because they're both owned by Fox. But, you know. You know? All our favourites. I do know. I know favourites. I do know. I know how crossover works. Yeah. I noticed on your iPad,

you've got, well, you've got ASOS open. I do. But before. Online shopping. Never let it be said that I give 100% of attention to anything, including doing this podcast.

You've rebuilt the site and it's not working properly and it's upsetting me. It doesn't look great, to be honest no I thought it'd be more aesthetically pleasing for a

it's minimalist oh okay anyway you were saying you had the Joker origin open I do so so spoiler for this by the way the new 52 yes

that they've redone the Joker origin or they've alluded to that he might be a certain thing so if you haven't read it and you want to read it skip forward as many minutes as we talk about this yes you'll know you haven't read it and you want to read it skip forward as many

minutes as we talk about this yes you'll know you'll just feel it in your heart okay so just hit that scrub button long okay so they've decided now or scott snyder who's the writer of this yes zach snyder's brother yes probably not i don't know i would assume so they've decided that the joker now has an origin. Yeah. Or they're exploring more of the Joker's origin and that in the DC universe, there's a character called Vandal Savage

and he is immortal because he was sort of a Cro-Magnon man or like a post-Neanderthal kind of man who, well, depending on the version you hear, he either encountered a meteor that had crashed to earth and he either was it was like a man like a man hand like handshaking a meteor oh absolutely yeah place to mention i'm just an awful man um so he he was either struck by the radiation for the meteor or he inhaled some sort of gases from the meteor. And that made him immortal. Those are the two comic book origins for anybody.

Yeah, exactly. Inhale some stuff, radiation. Or you're a crazy person. That's what, yeah. So, and as a result, he's immortal. And sort of, he lives forever, but... What's living, you know? Yeah, exactly.

When you don't have a lot of friends, you know. But he can... He lives forever. Occasionally, like, you know,'t have a lot of friends, you know. But he can, he lives forever. Occasionally, like, you know, somebody will stab one of his eyes out or something like that. Or one of his organs will wear out. But because he's been alive for 50,000 years, he's got literally thousands of descendants. So he can just essentially surgically remove, he kidnaps somebody, surgically removes their eye or their liver or whatever. And just has it implanted in him. and he just takes it on and it works.

Okay. It's very lucky. It is very. And so his arch nemesis is the Immortal Man, who's another guy. Yeah. They met the same meteor? I think they met the same meteor, yeah. So they've sort of been battling down through the centuries.

And I think the premise now is they're saying that Ra's al Ghul, also immortal in the dc universe who's not who's not he's not as as immortal he's pretty he's pretty he's only a couple of thousand well he's pretty he's only a couple of thousand years old and what's what's a couple of thousand years mate am i right nothing he's a baby but anyway uh he he's kept immortal through the lazarus pits yeah And apparently the part of the chemistry of the Lazarus pits comes from that meteor. Yeah. Okay. And so now that they've expanded that further and they're saying that the Joker also encountered

the radiation of the meteor at some point before Gotham was a city. Yeah. So we don't know exactly the timeframe, but I would assume he's younger than Ra's al Ghul. Yeah. So maybe a couple of hundred years or something like that. So. There's some old artworks, which apparently are unaltered that he's in. Right.

But I think there's a very good chance that this will be left ambiguous. Yes. Because people don't like a solidified Joker origin. No, I was going to say that. The Joker, traditionally speaking, has never... As far as this goes, they're alluding to the fact that he is immortal, but it only comes into being when he's been horrifically injured. Yeah. So, for example...

So you can't tell if you test him genetically. Yeah, he just seems normal. But, for example, in the 80s, there was the death in the family storyline where he killed the second Robin. Yeah. And then he was seemingly killed in a helicopter crash like a huge fire explosion that nobody could have escaped from but then he came back obviously and it's implied that's because he's this power activated and then even though this is new 52 it's different exactly but all that stuff kind of still happened yeah yeah in 52 and so yeah so

traditionally speaking the Joker doesn't have an origin like there's a lot is implied we must have discussed this before there's the Red Hood one yeah it's

yeah like his first appearance in the sort of the 40s he just started showing up and killing people which is sort of quite accurate the Nolan Dark Knight

yeah like he's taken a lot of cues from a lot of different uh dc media yeah uh you know he's he just shows up man has to get rid of that bomb just like in the 66 running down piers just non-stop um and so you know he he has no particular origin, like the killing joke. It's implied that every time he tells the story of his origin, it's different. And we don't know if that's because he does that to amuse himself or because he doesn't remember where he came from kind of thing. And also, like the 89 Batman movie, it's implied he has a sort of a military origin because he says, you know, you kill a thousand soldiers, nobody cares. It's all part of the plan kind of thing.

Yeah. And it's, I think it is. Wait, the 89 Batman. Oh no, that in, in the 89 Batman, he's, he's like a special forces. Oh really? Is that in the novelization or something? No, it's in the movies as well. Really? You see his sort of data file, Batman, Batman digs it up. He's Jack Nagy. Is that before or after the let's get nuts scene? That's after the let's get nuts scene, I think. Yes. But yeah,

he's like, uh, he's, he's a sort of a special forces soldier and he specialized in chemical weapons and things like that, which is why he can build all the, you know, the Smilax,

the poison gas and stuff like that. Yeah. So I think that he's, Nolan's taken that element as well and sort of built this ambiguous origin, but yeah. So Joker in the comic books, especially And sort of built this ambiguous origin. But yeah, so Joker in the comic books especially has always had this very ambiguous origin.

And I think that's part of the appeal. Yeah. Like, if you take, say, Marvel's Wolverine, he always had quite an ambiguous origin. And that's how he maintained, I think, his popularity. Yeah. Because he was kind of this cool character. You could imagine whatever.

He's like that mysterious kid at school who comes. You're like, where's this guy from? Where'd he get that cool leather jacket? Yeah. Oh, he's from the suburb character. You can imagine whatever. It's like that mysterious kid at school who comes. You're like, where's this guy from? Where'd he get that cool leather jacket? Yeah. Oh, he's from the suburb over. Oh, thank you. And so, yeah, but then when Wolverine's origin is eventually revealed, it's kind of... It's fine.

It's fine, but whatever you built up in your head is better than that. Because your brain just goes, oh, fellas in the blank, you must have had this amazing backstory kind of thing. It was probably, it was about 15 years that we didn't know Wolverine's origin. It was a bit longer than that. Well, his first appearance was in the Hulk, which was in the 60s. Yeah. That would have been longer than that.

But they didn't really start to get into his origin until much later than that. We didn't really get to his origin until maybe the 90s when he got like a proper solo series. Yeah. And we saw bits and pieces. We knew he was part of an experiment. We knew in the 80s that he was part of Weapon X

and then in the 90s we discovered that Weapon X had like a Special Forces team and he was on that and Sabretooth and a couple of other team members. Yeah. And that, you know... The guy from... The Will.i.am guy from Black Ops 2.

Yeah, exactly. Kestrel. Thank you, Kestrel. But all we learned from that is that he had a lot of fake memories built over his real memory. So even though we knew that he had that memory wipe, memory alteration, we didn't actually know his origin. And it took until... Was the series just called Origin, I think, maybe?

Yeah, it was, yeah. That was a relatively recent one, like maybe 2008. And then we discover that he's James Howlett from Canada and he's a little Lord Fauntleroy, fancy sickly lad, and he runs off into the forest. Fa-la-la-la. And that's what they did into the forest. Fa la la la. And that's what they did in the movie. Yeah, exactly.

Ugh. Anyway, what were we talking about? Oh, yeah, the Joker. The Joker. In that scene, in that panel that you had open, you see the Joker swimming underwater. Yeah. Do you reckon there's any implication there that he can breathe underwater? I hope not.

Or do you think that's just a... I absolutely... No, I... Because it didn't occur to me until just then when I'm looking at it. Because I read that the other day. I think that's just a terrifying visual. That is a terrifying visual. Like, imagine you're underwater.

No, I think that's just somebody... Somebody is swimming and they get caught in a rip. And they're trying to escape. And then you see the... Like, you wouldn't want to see the Joker swimming at you. That's worse than a shark. It's much worse than a shark. Look at his little cap.

It's weird. Anyway, I think my hope is that they keep it very ambiguous yeah like maybe you see him near a meteor

he's in a meteor appreciation society he's eating dinner off a meteor he's eating dinner off a glowing meteor exactly but

because we don't yeah or I mean you could maybe because there are pictures of like a Joker-esque character from, you know, a hundred years ago. Yeah.

Maybe you could say that he was inspired by that. Sure, yeah. There's a lot of ways to make it vague. Yeah. I do like the idea of maybe there's kind of a supernatural element to this. But if you put it out there and say it, I think it kind of ruins the magic of the Joker. It does, absolutely.

The murderous, murderous magic. Well, he, because they redid the Red Hood gang for the new 52. Right, okay. And it was, again, left ambiguous as to whether the leader of the Red Hood gang

was the Joker. It was like, it could have been, it might not have been. So I think this is the way it's going to go. Yeah. That will, you know, we'll find out in the next issue

or the next couple issues. Anyway, but yeah, have you read that entire run I'm not up to date yeah you should totally I will or don't whatever

just do whatever I will don't tell me what to do or don't do wait which side am I on I don't know I'll do it close this tab

do whatever it goes we've got back to ASOS isn't this loaded yet god damn it I've got good internet here as well. That should be fine. It's the rebuild the site. Anyway, it's not finished yet.

Anyway. You know how they're making that new Terminator movie? Yes. They're apparently going to do some, add some additional scenes to the T-800 fight. Oh, yes. The old Arnold Schwarzenegger fights young Arnold Schwarzenegger. In the 80s. In the 80s.

They're going to redo that, but they're not going to reshoot it. They're going to use CGI and make it more brutal. Great. I guess you can make a CGI fight look okay now as well. And one of them has to be CGI anyway. Yes. Or partially because one of them's young Arnold Terminator man. Or you see them run at each other.

There's a bit of grappling and then they get flung into a hat store. And they both decide to put on really big broad brimmed hats and then it doesn't matter who's under those hats it does not just two big guys

it doesn't matter so yeah I'm okay with that yeah yeah whatever because I think people I think after the trailer and how people responded to that

they probably thought well maybe this won't measure up to what people think yes that it's going to be because I think that's probably the scene

that people are most excited about. Absolutely, yeah. Like there's a bit where he barrels through the helicopter, but that to me pales in comparison to that. I want to see that fight and I want to see him interact with the punks. Yes, definitely. That's what I want. You want to see if his modern day conservative values come through.

You know? Yeah, like he pins one down and gives them a haircut. Is that what you're saying? Definitely, yeah. That'd be great. through you know yeah like he pins one down and gives him a haircut is that what you said definitely yeah yeah that'd be great um you know star wars is still happening obviously yeah yeah it'd be weird if they just cancelled all of a sudden how amazing i mean i really want to say that i would be upset yep but that would be pretty great definitely apparently there's going to be huts in the new star wars as in jabba the huts well not him but yeah yeah others okay sure the

huts great so and they're they're using puppetry which is wise yes are you are you for or against the jabba the hut scene being added to a new hope uh the one where he where han solo has a conversation with him with a big cgi i'm against it i think yeah and there's also the because they had to add like little bits of personality to it I'm doing air quotes personality where doesn't somebody walk on his tail

this new microphone picks up air quotes great fantastic people are like ooh air quotes ooh ooh he's making

the jack off motion great yeah isn't there a bit where like somebody stands on his tail and he's like yeah because the problem with the shot was they put in an actor

who they were then going to replace. Who kind of looks like a hobbit. Yes. If you've seen that. Who they were going to replace with a stop-motion, kind of furry, kind of puppeteer kind of dude. And they ran out of time and money and they didn't include it for whatever reason. But the problem with the scene was there's a bit where Han Solo circles back around him.

Right. And if he's Jabba the Hutt, the tail's in the way so he can't do it. So they made it so he steps on the tail. Right, right, right. Which doesn't really fit in

with Return of the Jedi. Like, he would never step on that guy. Right, exactly. Like, he would... And he doesn't... Like, he looks... It's really jarring how different he looks.

And I think they shouldn't have put the scene in for one because it spoils the Jabba the Hutt reveal I don't think you care at all

what my opinion is on this scene I think you just wanted to say what your opinion was on this scene you're probably right wow

did you say did you say everything you wanted to say no see I think I would say that the reveal

of what Jabba the Hutt is is much better yeah like in Return of the Jedi because they mentioned him a couple times it's. Yeah. Like in Return of the Jedi. Because they mention him a couple of times. It's like that fake scene from Return of the Jedi where Luke Skywalker built the lightsaber in a cave. It ruins the surprise. That he has a lightsaber.

Yes. Yeah. That he didn't come in unarmed as a Jedi. Or he didn't turn up with a tennis racket or something. Yeah. Yeah. But not only that, if they... Or he didn't turn up and a tennis racket or something. Yeah. Yeah. But not only that, if they, if they, or he didn't turn up

and then he's like, oh, I forgot to build a lightsaber. Oh, that's me making a gosh darn it motion. They know. Yeah, I know.

They can hear it. But yeah, I think also if they insisted on putting it in, you make, you put a puppet over it. You film a puppet on a green screen and you slot it in.

Anyway, that's, what do we know about filmmaking, Mason? Heaps. We're just a couple of guys sitting weirdly on a couch together. J.K. Simmons was asked... Oh, here we go, yep. ...whether he would ever play J. Jonah Jameson again. He said in a heartbeat or something? He did say in a heartbeat, but he also said,

I just heard that that's a possibility. I don't care whether they reboot it or they if they end up doing the Tobey Maguire universe again which they won't no absolutely not

or if they continue the Andrew Garfield or whatever put him back in it definitely it doesn't matter he translates in whatever version

you want to do put him back in it it doesn't matter agreed yes yeah good I think yeah

we've said before it's probably the best piece of comic book casting definitely I mean the Joker's great and best piece of comic book casting definitely yeah I mean the Joker's great and you love Val Kilmer as Batman yeah I mean the Joker

Heath Ledger as the Joker is great I see that swipe at me for Val Kilmer the Joker is great but that's a whole new take yeah

like it's not accurate no it's thematically accurate I guess but it doesn't look anything like him or you know

yeah but Simmons nailed it yeah dead on Ghostbusters 3 has been cast oh yes all female reboot yeah i mean we knew this was happening yeah yeah people still don't like it very much they're upset people are upset we've talked about before how we don't care that it's being rebooted or whatever yeah it's a it was a dead franchise. There's, in certain cases, literally dead.

Yes. Like, I know, too much. Yes. But look, we had at least one quarter of the cast isn't alive anymore. Yes. One quarter of the cast has no interest in being in it. That's Bill Murray. Yes.

One quarter of the cast is probably too busy selling his crystal head vodka and he might be crazy oh he's definitely crazy yeah and um that's bill murray yeah sorry but that's um dan akroyd that's dan akroyd and hernie hudson's like whatever yeah i'll probably do it yeah yeah be fun but yeah and you can't have an ernie hudson dan akroyd ghostbuster movie absolutely not yeah Unless it's just them. Remember in the start of Ghostbusters 2, when they're down and out and they're just doing children's birthday parties together? So maybe just an hour of that. Sure.

But yeah, that franchise is done. Yeah. If you want to watch it, it's still there. Yep. Do you like 2? Um. I think I saw 2 first. Oh, okay.

So I'm okay with it. Yeah, yeah. But I know a lot of people hate it. It's not, it's like I haven't read, I've watched Ghostbusters a lot of times in my life. Yeah. Ghostbusters 2, not so much. Yeah. I mean, it's fine and people are good in it, but there's a lot of rehashing.

It's a bit scary, isn't it? There's scary ghosts in it. There's ghosts. It's a bit in the weird slimy water. Yeah. A little bit dangerous. Gross. And they tried to like, you know, they needed a big finish with a big kind of thing.

So it became the Statue of Liberty kind of thing. Controlled with a Nintendo controller. Yeah, absolutely. It's fine, but yeah. I found that Vigo guy really terrifying as a kid. Yeah, yeah. Like he's quite scary. Who's the villain in the first one?

What's his name again? Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. No, not that. The person. Zool. Zool, yeah. So do you think... Zool. who's the villain in the first one what's his name again Stay Puft Marshmallow no not that the person Zool yeah so do you think Zool

I think Viggo's scarier than Zool yes you're right the Carpathian right correct yeah so anyway

internet's mad again of course oh yeah the cast though yeah also women had childhoods too you know they're allowed to enjoy Ghostbusters and then a new Ghostbusters Oh yeah, the cast though. Also, women had childhoods too. You know?

They're allowed to enjoy Ghostbusters and then a new Ghostbusters. It's fine. Sure. Yeah. Kristen Wiig. Nothing's ruining your childhood. She's great. She's great.

Melissa McCarthy. Also great. People are very on the fence with her. Like, I'm sick of her. I'm sick of her. Whatever. I don't care, whatever. Correct, yeah.

Leslie Jones, who I'm not that familiar with neither am I and Kate McKinnon who's on SNL yeah I think Leslie Jones is as well I think so yeah whatever

I don't care it's good if it's bad then people will be happy if it's good people will be happy no people will be unhappy people will constantly

be unhappy forever until the end of time yeah good point I didn't even think of that look it's Paul Feig. I like Paul Feig. He's done great stuff. Yeah, he's good, isn't he?

What's he done? Bridesmaids? Yep, The Heat. The Heat. Maybe another thing. He probably did at least another movie. He's probably filled with a lot of questions about all-female Ghostbusters. I don't doubt it.

He probably gets attacked on Twitter a lot. Do we know if there's going to be, at this point, have they nailed down any cameos from... I believe they've talked about putting bill murray in as like a skeptical guy who's against ghosts oh yeah skeptical ghost man yeah what if he's a skeptical guy about ghosts who is himself a ghost ah we're gonna ring that number you know the bill murray number there's a bill murray yeah because bill murray doesn't have an agent anymore yeah so you've got to ring a New York number and you leave a voicemail. And if he's interested in the project, he will get back to you.

Is that real? Yeah, that's how he gets jobs now. Can anybody ring that number? I think you'd have to have that. I don't think it's publicly available. I think you'd have to. If someone has that number, we want it. We want it.

We will pitch. He will be interested in a role in the new Ghostbusters as a man who is sceptical of ghosts, but is himself a ghost. And then we get writer's credit. That's right. So we're basically trying to get ourselves a job in this movie. I think so, yes. We're going to shoo one away. Absolutely.

If we turn up with Mari, yeah. Oh, yeah, give us a job. Absolutely, yeah. David Tennant is entering the Marvel Cinematic Universe as Doctor Who. No. Wait, did you say david tennant yes this is david kent and i'm like it's david kent exactly i panicked i'm like there's a guy is that a character that i just an actor i don't know worried you could he could sit you could feel my worry on the new on the new podcast absolutely yeah okay david tennant is entering yeah he's gonna's going to be in Jessica Jones. He's going to be the Purple Man. Ah, okay.

He can play creepy. Definitely. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What if he was going to be Power Man? Luke Cage, Hero of Bahá'í. That would have been great. What a twist.

What a twist. Truly, we live in a post-race society. Purple Man's a good character. Not a massive character, but he's obviously got ties to Jessica Jones because he's brainwashed her and all sorts of bad stuff. He's a good character. Not a massive character, but he's obviously got ties to Jessica Jones because he's brainwashed her and all sorts of bad stuff. He's a bad dude. And we get to see him being beaten up, probably.

Yes, definitely. So that'll please non-fans of David Tennant, so everybody wins. That's right. I don't think there's such a thing, Mason. He's so charming. He's very charming. Do you like his broad American accent?

It's very broad. I can't do it. I think I've seen him do a broad... He's in the American remake of Broadchurch. He is, yeah. He's in both versions. Is it basically exactly the same? I don't think I've seen him do a broad he's in the American remake of Broadchurch he is yeah he's in both versions is it basically exactly the same

I don't as far as I know it is I've heard it's good though actually someone emailed this week and said it's good but yeah I've been meaning to watch that but I haven't

I watched The Fall this week though oh yeah good it's pretty good didn't end that well anyway doesn't matter spoiler alert oh by the way

we finished talking about The Joker's origin I've just remembered we stopped talking about the Joker's origin I've just remembered we stopped talking about that so you can listen again now definitely

we switched off yeah so yeah the Marvel Cinematic Universe expands I'm surprised they didn't give him a movie role

but I guess he's not he's not that big an actor like he's popular but he's not that well known yeah he was in

Fright Night I guess he was in Harry Potter 4 but he's not that well known. Yeah, he was in Fright Night, I guess. He was in Harry Potter 4. Oh. But he was not in it a lot because he was playing, Brendan Gleeson played the guy that he was pretending to be. And then he switched back at the end. Spoiler alert, by the way.

Yeah. Maybe this is the point. Come back in if you don't want to. Come back now. Come back now. Great. Back in. Yeah, but great.

Whatever. You remember last week we talked about how ezra miller found out he was going to be the flash oh he was in some sort of south american country just chilling with the natives eating a fish off a leaf or something absolutely yeah whatever he was doing um well i found out just participating in some tribal culture down there just in a little little ceremony basically he's being invited to be part of the tribe basically the story was last week that he was talking about how he found out he was the Flash and he put in all this extra detail

about he was just really off the grid, you know? Off the grid, doing exotic stuff and then he got a phone call from the director. Well, actually, I've got some more details on that moment. Oh, great. Great. So, first of all, he was on... This is his words.

He was at a remote landlocked town in the middle of Costa Rica when his phone rang. That's interesting, right? Hang on. I got this call and I'm thinking, this is really weird, he explained, because he was completely unaware at the time that they even had cell phone reception in Costa Rica. What an arsehole.

Turns out the call was from his agent, who was on the other line with someone who needed to speak with miller about the flash so his agent was like you know it's bloody zach snyder yeah there's a lot of great detail in that story isn't there what i enjoy about this is somebody has asked for more detail or maybe no one's asked for more detail and he's just i remember i had that story about like maybe he felt he didn't get enough attention for the first version of the story. So now he's just in bars, like, unbidden, just telling people the expanded version. Like, here's the director's cut.

The Zack Snyder director's cut. All right. So there we go. Chris Pratt. You familiar with him? Yes. Actor. Yep.

Nice guy. He's always doing charity stuff. He stole the Star-Lord uniform so he can go visit kids in hospital what a legend hope Disney pull him up on it though because that

cannot be allowed he's out anyway Sean Kelly Deadpool writer no no sorry that's something else I'll come back to this

spoiler alert Sean Kelly wrote Deadpool oh really maybe okay well anyway this is I'll get to the other Chris Pratt thing.

But you know how he's in Cowboy Ninja Viking? Yes. They're aiming to get the directors, they say, from John Wick, two guys, to do that. So have you seen John Wick? Look, I've seen... The Matrix. Yeah, I've seen The Matrix. Yeah.

I skimmed John Wick. I think we talked about this. And I'm like, it's kind of okay. Yeah. I'm going to give it another shot yeah like the the general consensus

on the internet is it's amazing amazing and I thought it was just kind of okay it's pretty solid but yeah you're right

it's not it's a slow burn and the the action's quite good yeah so like there's a night there's a nightclub action scene that looks really good

he can really move yeah and that's clearly him like in a lot of those shots. Yeah, that's... He's 50. Yeah, exactly. That's the six months of Matrix Hollywood kung fu that he learned. He's got that forever now, I think.

Yeah. I like how people are also really on board with Keanu Reeves. Remember in the 90s? Yeah. People were like, he's wooden, he sucks, and whatever. Yeah. I'd never... I mean, I guess he is, but I've never found him that way.

Right, right. I always found him really, I don't know, endearing? I don't know what... Yeah, I think he's gotten better at choosing roles that accommodate his wooden acting kind of thing. Like, The Matrix is perfect, because it was a lot of, whoa. What? Yeah, exactly.

How many computers? Kung fu. Like, they just... I think they just put him in lot of, whoa. What? Yeah, exactly. How many computers? Kung fu. Like, they just, I think they just put him in front of, like, some computers. He's like, compute what? Whoa. And I, yeah, like, I remember when, like, he did Bill and Ted, and then he sort of did some other stuff that was not good, and then he disappeared for a while.

And then when the first trailer for The Matrix came out, like, all the effects weren't completed and it was a little bit vague. And when Keanu Reeves came up, everyone laughed in the theatre. Who's laughing now? Us. Yeah.

Wait. But we're laughing at something unrelated. It happened before the show. Just a funny thing. Speed's great. Speed's probably one of my favourite action movies. And Point Break is good

sure right yeah so yeah anyway not the point Constantine's great also yeah I know it's not

comic accurate and whatever but we'll never have a comic accurate version of Constantine it's never gonna happen what about on the television

that's not isn't it not really I haven't seen enough of it yeah cause he but in the in the movie

in the TV version he's hunting out evil yeah and Constantine doesn't do that no he hates it

he gets himself out of the fire yeah every time like he's the bad things he's done have got him

into a lot of trouble yeah and when it comes back to bite him in the ass he's like he tricks enough people that he can get out of it again

for now yeah exactly he'll sell his soul for a little bit yeah exactly and I think that's what that movie got

mostly correct he's mostly not out looking for trouble no that's right unlike that Ezra Miller floating around places he shouldn't be

exactly also absorbing the culture we're cool with Ezra Miller being the Flash and whatever yeah one yeah whatever anyway um but maybe we'll get a good version of constantine in justice league dark yeah absolutely that'd be cool who would you cast sting who else would you cast though if you had to i can't sting brother no sting i can't sting okay he's old he looks great he's got very he doesn't

have a lot of hair though now i mean you could put could put a wig on him. You could put a wig... Did you see Birdman? No, I haven't actually. Wig technology for older actors is just leaps and bounds now. Yeah, absolutely. Like he's got... Look at John Travolta. I've not seen Birdman yet. No, I don't know.

I'm not the guy who's like, oh, you're my god, you haven't seen... Right, I'm not that guy, obviously. But, oh my god, you haven't seen Birdman? But, like, they're good at making a wig that makes it look like he's a man with thinning hair. Okay. When, in fact, he's a man with very thin hair. Like, you see him and you go, he's got great thinning hair for an old guy. And then he takes the wig off and you're like, oh, my God, he's basically bald.

Wignology. Wig-nology. Wig-ception. The wig in a wig. All right, well, I guess I'll watch it to that scene and then I'll turn it off. Then turn it off, yeah. Okay, great.

That's right at the end. Oh, what? Spoiler alert, no, it's not. Chris Pratt, anyway, getting back to. Do we want to talk about

the new design Superman costume before we get into this? You've got that open, so I like being on the same couch. I can see yeah. Get back to. Do we want to talk about the new design Superman costume before we get into this? You've got that open, so I like being on the same couch. I can see what you're up to. Yeah. Buying stuff on the internet. Looking at Superman. Now, the artist of that is the artist who did Kick-Ass, isn't it?

It's John Aromata Jr. The famous John Aromata Jr. His art, I don't think, suits Superman. No, but look at that angsty face. Yeah. I'm sort of crying a bit, I think. Look at my hair. It's weird.

Where's my spit curl? I'm a weird looking guy. I feel like he fits definitely kick ass, but I think, I even don't, because he did World War Hulk, not World War Hulk, what was the one, we made it on that, but he did... Planet Hulk? No, he did World War Hulk, sorry. And I don't think that he's... It's a bit surrealist, I think, a lot of it.

Right, okay. And a bit kind of the proportions are off. And I don't think he's a bad artist, but I don't think it necessarily suits, say, like a Superman. I think it suits a Superman who is doing... Like he's going out into space and he's going to the fourth world. He's going to fight Darkseid and stuff like that. I think that environment really works because it's it's very kind of stylized sure and you know dark side is an

enormous rocky man creature man kind of thing and all that sort of stuff and there's a lot of you know blocky weird alien technology so if there's if there's going to be some storylines set in space has the wig knowledge in space it's excellent it's probably pretty good probably like a holographic laser laser or something. Laser wigs. Exactly. Singularity wigs. Yeah. Oh my God.

That's right. Anyway, new costume. New costume. Okay. There's a few changes. Right. It's not as, it's not as like. Liny.

It's not as liny. It's got those, it's kind of in segments. It doesn't have all the piping on it. Yeah. Yeah. He's got the fingerless gloves. He's got the, well, he's got the, yeah, he's got the well he's got the yeah he's got they're not

it's not even really gloves it's kind of the sleeves extend to like his knuckles kind of thing over his palms and stuff like that

red underpants still gone they got rid of the V neck I mean there's a V on the side of the neck that they got rid of it's still that high collar though yeah yeah

and I think the belt buckle changed its shape I think it was square wow people are going to be very unhappy or very happy who knows somebody made the point that the good thing about the red trunks is which they still haven't brought back as you said it breaks up the costume yeah do you think they should bring it back or or also who cares ridiculous yeah yeah all right cool so you think the red belt is enough yes all right good what what shape do you want that buckle to be?

I want it to be S. I want it to be the Superman S shape. Two S's. Two S's. Do you want the S on the back as well, or is that too many S's? No. Yeah. And the back, and shaved in the back of his head.

Yeah, definitely. That's a good question. I'm going to say no S on the cape yeah I agree yeah there's only three S's that's crazy

the Brandon Routh Superman had a lot of S's that entire suit was S's S on the belt the suit was all S's yeah it was like tessellated S's down it yeah

the belt on the back of the boots I think there was one on the back of the cape also I can't remember and there was obviously the one on the front and he had them tattooed

on his eyelids yeah and if you lift up his spit curl there's one under there great so yeah but yeah whatever

I mean they changed all the time who cares the trunks will come back like let's not kid ourselves really do you think so definitely eventually

they haven't come back on Batman yeah that's a good point actually they might maybe they'll come back on a different character like Constantine

like Batman puts them on him yeah like the red underpants great anyway Chris Pratt Chris Pratt we're back to Chris Pratt apparently Disney

is lining him up for Indiana Jones okay good so you're good with that yeah we've got Sean Kelly has written in who's the writer

of that thing you said I think maybe it's unrelated okay good is the official officiant no official officians I don't know what I've got, Sean Kelly has written in, who's the writer of that thing you said. I think maybe it's unrelated. Okay, good. He's the official officiant, no, official officians? I don't know what I've got here. I've written something wrong. And he's worried that he might get sick of looking at his face, since he's going to be in Jurassic World. He's obviously Star-Lord, Cowboy Ninja Viking, and various other projects.

There's going to be one Cowboy Ninja Viking movie, though, surely. Yes. That'll appear and disappear very quickly, I would say. Okay, sure. Unless it's really good. But, look, I think... Maybe there'll be a trilogy and the first one's a cowboy. Ah, so good.

I think that they've decided it worked for Harrison Ford, it's going to work for Chris Pratt. Yeah. Like, we had Han Solo and Indiana Jones running at the same time. Let's have Star-Lord and Indiana Jones running at the same time now. I love Chris Pratt. And I don't think people will get sick of him. Not yet anyway.

But I feel that he might be too jovial for Indiana Jones. So he'd have to really kind of take that back a notch. Okay, sure. Because, again, Indiana Jones is kind of... He's exasperated most of the time. He's exasperated, exactly. He hates everything, like Harrison Ford. Yes.

Yeah, so you're going to have to bring kind of more of that into it, like less kind of winking kind of Star-Lord-y kind of nods. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And more playing it straight. Yeah, but I think... And running after Sean Connery. Keep Sean Connery. Yeah, definitely.

I think he's going to know that going in. Yeah. I think he's going to be like, you're in two big franchises. You're going to have to differentiate this somehow. If you steal this uniform as well. Yeah. There's only one hat left.

I don't make them anymore. We don't have the technology. We're not in space. We can't make you another hat. So don't steal it. Do you think anybody can pull off a fedora in real life that is a tough call not anymore really because you can't you can't do it casual you can't do t-shirt jeans fedora it does happen though yeah yeah absolutely i mean i'm not saying they should

but but it's also like if you wear like like a three-piece suit yeah that's your license to wear a fedora but if you do you look kind of retro yeah kind of thing and then like it's a it's a very tough call you're not a hat guy are you i have a lot of hats that i don't wear a lot they're just just one of those samuel jackson hats you know like a kangol absolutely i do heaps of them i keep them behind glass and if there's an emergency i break that glass i put on a hat great do you have a big floppy sun hat no do you have one of those hats with the corks on it, as all Australians do? Yes. Good.

Because I'm Australian. Yes. Thank you for the clarification. Yeah. But yeah, I've got an email here from Patrick, the official cheesehead of the show. He said, do you think there's anyone better than him, though? He's from Green Bay. Is that right?

Yeah. That's very good. Yeah, I know. He actually gave the explanation, but you... I know who the Green Bay Packers are. I don't. Or do you? Or do I?

You do now. Great. They're a football team. I know what the Green Bay Packers are. I don't. Or do you? Or do I? You do now. Great. They're a football team. I know what footballs is. Okay, sure. Good. Great. I wonder who's in the Super Bowl tomorrow.

Who's in it? Yeah. I have no idea. Seahawks, I think. Just the Seahawks. They're a good one. You know what? They were determined as so good before the Super Bowl started to just them playing.

Yeah. You know they've started releasing a lot of the Super Bowl clips online? Like the ads? Uh-huh. Before? That's not fun. Nah, it's not, is it? But then again,

I guess, I don't know, I guess they make them online eventually, but, you know, it's like, but again, like, movie trailers, we now see them online before we, like, I'm never surprised by a trailer when I go to movies. No, in the cinema, absolutely, yeah.

But anyway, whatever, who cares? Yeah, Super Bowl. Anyway. Yeah. Thanks for the digression, idiots. before we like I'm never surprised by a trailer when I go to the movies no in the cinema absolutely but anyway whatever who cares yeah Superbowl anyway yeah thanks for the digression idiots no I'm sorry

that's mean do you think there's anyone better than him to play the role like because I know Bradley Cooper's always also been thrown up and I think he would be

a great idea also I'd be happy with either of those that is a good question Bradley Cooper I think he's too good looking I have that

I know god the audience can tell now listeners can tell because of the new equipment I don't know look I've probably said I'm for that in the past

on this podcast yeah but I've changed my mind okay I don't doesn't doesn't quite strike me okay sure

you see him kind of roguish be more annoying than anything else do you think they would you think maybe they should go

with somebody unknown like who like you Mason yeah no no you don't think so well I mean

unless there's somebody who see well I don't know because they're unknown yeah good point I don't know why I brought, I mean, unless there's somebody who... See, well, I don't know because they're unknown. Yeah, good point. I don't know why I brought it up, to be honest. Yeah, maybe somebody unknown who looks exactly like the Indiana Jones in our minds. Yes.

And acts like him also. So if you've got that, let us know. We will call Bill Murray's hotline and we will let them know. We bring Bill Murray in. We are definitely getting a writing job. What about Bill Murray as Idiota Jones' dad? Or Marcus? Or any of those, yeah.

Or the Grail. Or that knight who's guarding the Grail. Oh, yeah. And he's like, oh. What's up? Nice. Good. All right.

Mission Impossible 5 has been moved, the date that it's coming out on. Okay. It was originally going to be December 25th of this year. Yep. But it's been moved to July 31st of this year. Right. So they moved it forward. I'm assuming that's to,

you don't want to release it around the same time as Star Wars. Right, exactly, yeah. Because that's madness. Yeah. That's very rare, though, that they'll put a movie forward. Right. So there must have been a window there that that weekend's not a strong weekend, or they think they can do all right.

Would that mean that they're confident in it? I would say so. I would say they're not so confident that they think that people will watch a Tom Cruise movie over Star Wars. Right, exactly. But they're confident enough to, you know, to kind of plonk it mid-summer-ish. And this is the Brad Bird one.

Yes. No, Brad Bird did a lot of fun. This is the guy who did Jack Reacher. Great time of his name. Sure. But I think, yeah, I like these movies, so I'm going to see it anyway. Yeah, I think anything that comes out around Star Wars time is going to get lost. Correct.

That is not Star Wars. Yes. What about Avatar? Do you think Avatar could go up against Star Wars? The answer is no, obviously. You idiot. Is it? Yes. There's nobody on the planet who would see Avatar over Star Wars. the answer is no obviously you idiot is it yes

there's nobody on the planet who would see Avatar over Star Wars I think there is write in to Mason if you think there is okay good

not if you are that person got no interest in that but if you think you can think of someone anyway Fox are looking to bring the X-Men

to the small screen okay sure Generation X reboot god remember that yeah garbage god was that actually set in

was that actually supposed to be the X-Men no that was Generation X so it definitely had no affiliation with the X-Men at all no they're the at the time

they were the junior version of the X-Men okay you're thinking of Mutant X I am thinking of Mutant X you're right yeah was that the X-Men no I think You're thinking of Mutant X. I am thinking of Mutant X. You're right. Was that the X-Men?

No. I think Mutant X... Which one had Lex Luthor from... Mutant X. Yeah. Mutant X, I think, was... I think that was so Fox could retain the rights to mutants and things with X in the title. Yes. Like, I think that's the only reason.

Because it was a... Like, when I watched that first episode, I'm like, this is clearly like some sort of cheap rip-off cash-in. Marvel are going to sue these guys. They're not going to get the full season out. And then it got to the end and it was like Marvel Productions.

And I'm like, what? What? So... This was, what, 97, maybe? Maybe something like that, yeah. Yeah. That was a terrible show. But it was,

it was, the mutants weren't sort of a natural evolution of humanity. They were, they'd all been produced in a lab. Okay.

By a guy who looked exactly like Andy Warhol for some reason. Like with a weird white wig and everything. Was he a good guy? No, he was a bad guy.

Oh, yeah. That sounds like every show from the night. It sounds like Dark Angel. Yeah. Sounds like other things, doesn't it? Yep.

Yeah. I can't think of any others. Birds of Prey was probably in a lab for a bit. Yeah, definitely. I think that was early 2000s, though. So that doesn't count, does it? But that was one of those shows that I watched because it was... It's all you had.

Yeah, there was very limited superhero kind of media at the time. But it was all... I think it was just... It might have been just post-Matrix. Okay, yeah. Because everybody had, like, cool leather coats and they were cool guys and they all fought, like, just, like, generic government agents, like Agent Smith kind of characters.

Right. But they all had cool, like, leather jackets and cool martial arts moves and cool mutant powers kind of characters right and but they all had they all had cool like leather jackets and cool martial arts moves and cool mutant powers kind of thing do they have enough cool stuff though is that enough i think they had a cool jet as well but also they had all that stuff but they were all the characters were profoundly stupid because they were written so poorly like there's there was an episode of that show where they're fighting a character who can convert into like can transform into data and to get into computer systems that sounds very nice and what they did is they knocked him unconscious and they left him unsupervised in a room in their headquarters that had like a data

connection like an unsecured data connection and then he got into their computer systems and like and they got environmental control and like turned off the oxygen in their headquarters kind of thing where was their headquarters in a mountain range or something was it underground yes because otherwise you just open a window yeah good point did somebody end up going into the computer to battle him no i think that's my favorite thing i don't know what they did it's irrelevant because they're idiots because i think at that point i'm like i really hope they all die also i don't know what they did. It's irrelevant because they're idiots. Because I think at that point I'm like, I really hope they all die. Also, I don't know how it ended. Okay, cool.

Great. Well, that sounds really good. Yeah, it was really good. Well, anyway, Fox are looking to bring it to the small screen. But here's the kicker, Mason. Yes. It's pending the approval of Marvel because they only own the cinematic rights. Interesting. They have to go to Marvel and be like,

can we make this? No. Why would Marvel do that? They're actively trying to kill off Fox and Sony. Yeah. Like, not only them. Also Fox. Yeah. And Sony.

But yeah. Yeah. Like, no, they would never do that. I don't know. Maybe they would. What? It's possible.

Maybe with some conditions, like we want this character back, or we want to use the word mutant or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, clearly they think there's a chance this could happen if they're talking about it. Right, yeah, yeah.

But yeah, it'd be interesting to see how that plays out. You're right. That is actually an excellent point that I didn't think about. This is some leverage. See, this is why this podcast works, Mason, because we both think of things. Oh, we definitely, we mostly think of things, don't we? Just think of things, definitely we mostly think of things don't we think of things say things yep

pause sometimes say more things great but no that is a good point they've got some leverage yeah they could take back

I don't know some character they like I'm trying to think of who after after Daredevil came back yeah I was like okay that's fine

they can keep all the X-Men I'm glad Daredevil's back because they were going to make that 1970s Daredevil came back yeah I was like okay that's fine they can keep all the X-Men I'm glad Daredevil's back because they were going to make that 1970s Daredevil kind of movie that would have been great it would have been but I'd rather see him I'm happy they're doing it the way they are

yeah okay because you can bring in elements of that yeah yeah into the modern day because they're making a gritty kind of because apparently Hell's Kitchen does not look like that now it's quite nice

right of course yeah they haven't changed the names, though. No. Well, maybe they have. I don't know. What were you going to say? I was going to say that I mentioned this before, but I would have loved to see, like, a Daredevil-Punisher crossover

kind of thing set in the 70s. Well, they own both now, so that's good. A Punisher TV series would be great. Absolutely. Would it, though? Yeah. Yeah. It would, like... As a netflix as a netflix show

absolutely not as like an abc no no like a magus of shield because we it's a that's a it's a character that's all about just relentless machine gunning of people yep uh you know 100 bullets square one would do yeah and i the first trailer would come out and I'd see a CGI muzzle flash and I'd be like, nope, not happening. Yeah. Arrow does a lot of that though. A lot of CGI muzzle flash. Yeah, but I...

It's a different kind of show. It's a different kind of thing, yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, there you go. If he was called Gun, then that would be a different story. But he's not, is he? No.

He's a bullet. Thomas Jade said as well that he's not really interested in coming back. Not because he doesn't really want to do it, but he said he kind of did the punishment that he wanted to do with that short film. And he's like, maybe it's time to kind of give it to someone else. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah.

So that's good of him. Yeah. Like that he didn't threaten anybody. Sure. Yeah. He might be a bit old now anyway. He doesn't look that Frank Castle, does he? I feel he never did.

Okay, yeah. I think Ray Stevenson, who was in the sequel, looks a lot better. Yeah, he's dead on. Second best casting after Simmons. Okay. A lot of people have not seen that or aren't on board with it. Yeah, a lot of people are not on board with it. Yeah.

I don't care. I don't care what they think. Well, maybe you should, Mason. Nah. I don't care. I don't care what they think. Well, maybe you should, Mason. Nah.

FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. All right. Well, look, we're here to talk about something else, though, this week.

Oh, yes. Fantastic Four trailer. Yeah. I mean, we're here to talk about many things. Sure. Let's not sell. This might be a shorter episode. Yeah.

We've done some long ones. We've done a couple long ones lately. You know what it is? It's because we've been recording them late at episode. Yeah. We've done some long ones. We've done a couple long ones lately. You know what it is, is because we've been recording them late at night. Yeah. I ramble a lot because I'm so tired. And I often fall asleep and just leave that in. Yeah, exactly.

That's right. And then they come out kind of long. So we're keeping it pithy. Yeah. We're keeping it moving. Yeah. We're snapping over the recorder. That's really loud.

I'm bringing castanets next week but yeah the Fantastic Four trailer yeah or as I like to call it we're pretending this is interstellar I don't think

this is an this trailer which came out this week I don't think it's an actual accurate portrayal of what the movie's going to be

okay I think this is all smoke this is in a few years this is going to come out on bloody, you know,

cracked list of, you know, movie trailers that don't represent the movie accurately at all. Like the Matrix one. Yeah. Yeah.

I can't remember that trailer. Okay, good point. Well, actually, Sam, who's the official New Jersey end of the show, written in, he said,

just wanted to say, I keep up the good work and P.S., doesn't the first minute of the Fantastic Four trailer look like the Interstellar trailer? Boy, does it. It's like beat for beat

yeah I think if you line them up cornfields sadness sad music people going into a space humanity and something yeah definitely

following your dream in space yeah there's almost no Fantastic Four in it no or Fant4stic yes as we're going to be calling it

forever now I was going to put that in I did a trailer breakdown but I was like oh everybody said that so I'm not going to say it but yeah but I I was going to put that in. I did a trailer breakdown, but I was like, oh, everybody said that, so I'm not going to say it. But I thought people didn't do that anymore. Taken 3.

Yeah, but it's Taken 3, though, isn't it? Oh, yeah, good point. This is technically the third Fantastic Four. So they should have called it Fant3stick. But the thing is, though, the movie isn't officially spelt that way. It's just in the trailer. It's like that.

So if you look it on IMDb, it's still Fantastic Four. Anyway, Draven has written in also. He says, finally get a look at Fantastic Four and it definitely impressed me. It looks less like a superhero film and more like a straight up sci-fi film. And that's not necessarily a bad thing either. And I'm kind of on board for that.

But also what you said about smoke and mirrors and whatever very much could be the case. I'm not saying it's going to be a bad film. That's what you're saying though. Alright, I'll say that now. You're thinking it. They can hear your thoughts on this. Oh no!

I've been done in by technology yet again. I think that they're definitely obscuring what it is. Yeah. I think it's much more of a standard superhero film. Okay. And they've gone,

well, Interstellar people sort of liked that people liked it but you know the trailer built the trailer's built up a lot of hype yeah

let's do that exact same thing yeah yeah okay fair enough um pickup truck going down a down a road farm road yeah

cornfields speeches about being the best for humanity apparently though and I've heard this from multiple multiple sources that's not to say it's true yeah that this movie is a nightmare

behind the scenes right okay that josh trank has been really difficult to work with and turning up drunk and what allegedly allegedly exactly so who actually knows and look to to maybe but he also him and uh the producers now i can't remember, Simon Kingbird, I think. They also did a commentary behind the scenes on it. What do you got there? I'm looking at the trailer. Okay, cool. They did like a commentary.

It's on silent, but we're going to pick that up. That's fine. Yeah, they did a commentary on it. Like, and explained the certain scenes and whatever, whatever. And so, I think at this point, they're very much... I skipped it, but this trailer for the Fantastic Four

is the trailer for the Fantastic Four. Had an ad in front of it which was the trailer for the Fantastic Four. Like, somebody's wasted a lot of money on that. Anyway, continue. Yeah, so,

I feel like, well, because they're doing a lot of reshoots also. Uh-huh. So I think they're going to go... Look, even if there was a lot of reshoots also. Uh-huh. So I think they're going to go. Look, even if there was a lot of mess behind the scenes on this. Actually, let's just watch this for a minute. Okay.

Should we just pause? No, no. Should I leave this in? Yeah. Yeah, it's whatever. Oh, there's the, oh, cornfields. Yep. Nice guy, cornfields.

Oh, there it is. Car. Car. Experiments. That's a little Reed Richards. There's two of these transporting machines as well. Oh, interesting. There's an old one and a new is. Car. Car. Experiments. That's a little Reed Richards. There's two of these transporting machines as well. There's an old one and a new one, yeah. They've got that Days of Future Past there,

pretty prominent, don't they? Yeah. Let people know. And this is very, that's a Days of Future Past. The Interstellar, but also Days of Future Past sort of situation room, the president. See that number there? There's a red number in the left-hand corner.

You probably might have just missed it. IP address, yeah. I thought he was fixing a piano. You know, Johnny Storm's right. I thought initially, I was like, what? Uh-huh. So this is also very stellar. There we go.

There are six people on that. Yep. Did you watch my trailer breakdown, Mason? No, but there's six people. How dare you? I'll get to it. I mean, there's no point now, because I've just come up with some sweet observations. You have.

Like this. That played very Dark Knight as well there's a thing briefly Kate Mara crying sadness

Johnny Storm being the Johnny Storm that's probably Doctor Doom doing that yep that's this is riveting listening I'd imagine

they don't show a lot of the powers either like glimpses not at all exactly yeah and then you see Doom at the end sort of

do you think that's because the special effects are no good no that's possible I think that's the the special effects are no good? No, that's possible. I think that looks like a good thing. Definitely, yeah. They've figured it out, finally. Did you like the chiklis suit?

No. I think it was exactly what they should have done at the time. Right, uh-huh. Can you imagine a 2005 CGI thing? The worst, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, that's it. But, yeah, so if this is a mess, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to turn out to be a mess. Like, World War Z was a mess, and that did very well. Absolutely. That's it. But yeah so this is a mess. It doesn't necessarily

mean that it's going to turn out to be a mess. Like World War Z was a mess and that did very well. And though it's not accurate to the book

it's okay. Have you seen it? It's not a bad movie. I've seen the movie yeah. Yeah it's fine. Yeah it's fine. Very bloodless.

Yeah. It is. Even the chopping handoff scene. Though there's the cut which is very blooded but not only that

trailer oh yeah I was listening to a Cracked podcast earlier this week and they had a lot of people from different editors in chief and writers of different movie websites

and one from Movie Pilot and whatever one of the guys on it has said that a lot of what he's heard is from all accounts Fantastic Four

oh no I didn't say specifically this Fantastic Four he said there's two directors who are making big projects this year who haven't before right

implying one was the Fantastic Four and the other one might be Colin Trevorrow who did Jurassic World sure and he said one of them

is a train wreck right and one of them is going to blow people away and he said the one with the train wreck

he'll never make a big studio film again wow so I mean again it remains to be seen what happens. But he didn't specifically say Fantastic Four. He might not have. But it sounded like, because he said it's going back for reshoots, which is fantastic. That's Fantastic Four, exactly.

Okay, interesting. Yeah. But I'd like to know, Mike, specifically who the other one was. I'm guessing it's Colin Trevorrow, but I don't actually know. Right, okay. So, you know what? Miles Teller's looking good in this. Yeah, like, I think it's Colin Trevorrow, but I don't actually know. Right, okay. So you know what? Miles Teller's looking good in this. Yeah, like it's...

I think it's cast well. But, yeah, so what do you think? Like there's the costumes and whatever. What do you think of it? Or the length and all? They're kind of steampunky, the costumes, weirdly. They've gone with... They're containment suits.

Yeah, but they're like... They seem to be unique to each of them, sort of. Yeah, well, Johnny Storm's one's got vents yeah Reed Richards has got like stretchy things stretchy things yeah we don't really see

Kate Mara's and the thing has no pants in that last show not at all interesting you can skip to it yeah hmm

and obviously they're going I think Kate Mara is a very good looks like a very good Sue Storm yeah that's kind of that's the look I picture

okay for that character so they've done well there cool okay yeah so do you think the powers like might not look that crash hot

the way if that flame effect looks alright yeah no it does you're right yeah they do magical things

with flame effects now they do yeah since Ghost Rider now obviously in this one it's based they fixed they fixed flame effects between Ghost Riders 1 and 2. They did.

Ghost Rider 2 actually looked pretty good. But as I've mentioned, Leather Jacket, not as good in Ghost Rider 2. No, not as great. But obviously, in this one, they go into the negative zone. Yep. As opposed to space. So this is more the Ultimate Universe version of Fantastic Four. They don't go into space.

They, yeah, go to the Negative Zone. And you're saying that the second transporter device is maybe them going back into the Negative Zone. Yeah, I would say so, yeah. Maybe. Have you read a lot of the Ultimate Fantastic Four? Because I haven't read any of it at all. Maybe like the first 20 issues. Maybe something like that.

I've heard it's okay from what people say. I mean, Victor Von Doom is called Victor Van Dam. Yeah. Well, this is not called Victor Von Doom. It's called Victor Domachev or something. Okay, right. But also, there's a lot of reports that he's a blogger. Right.

I think that was a kind of off-the-cuff thing because people, when Toby Kibble mentioned that, he also used the word programmer. Right. So I think he'd probably be more a programmer than a blogger yeah i don't feel threatened by them i don't you know what honestly i don't feel threatened by a programmer or a blogger but programmer more so have you not seen die hard 4 there's a lot of programming and there's a lot of programming yeah and hacking and whatnot uh satellites but they've also the directors talked about like it's very chrome Chrome, Cronenberg Ian. Really?

Yeah. Because of the transformation. Yeah. Transformation. And it looks kind of more like doom in this. It looks like his suit melted, just melted to him. And he can sort of see it in the trailer. So I think that's how he's deformed in the things looks kind of more,

you know, that metamorphosis kind of, he kind of breaks out of that. Yeah. We rock cocoon kind of thing. And that kind of happens in the flight, doesn't it? Yeah of thing. And he kind of breaks out of that rock cocoon kind of thing. And that kind of happens in The Fly, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah.

And probably other David Cronenberg things. So I like that aspect of it. I think this is going to be, it's obviously going to be a very different looking than a Marvel movie. But I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.

I mean, you can have your dark superhero movies. I don't think it's going to look that different from... Oh, really? I think it's going to look mostly the same. I don't know.

I think it's more because when we think of Marvel Studios films, i think most of them take place in the daytime yeah and this is taking place at night so it's going to be more reminiscent of say daredevil or something that's garbage yeah yeah ghost rider one exactly i think i think that's that's all they're talking about is it's a different yeah yeah okay fair enough now you liked the bit at the end didn't you with the blue beam that stephen miller's written and he said hollywood can't have an action sequence without pulling some sort of bluish beam of light energy into the sky and then yeah letting everyone know that something bad is happening so that happened in transformers man of steel avengers iron man one probably when did that happen the

big the the bloody the the arc reactor explodes. Oh, yeah. It's really good, isn't it? Pretty good. Yeah, there's a lot of that. Yeah. You want to know what's happening there. You do, don't you?

What else was I going to say? Something about Fantastic Four. You're very obviously sceptical. I'm very sceptical. Do you think this will be terrible? Or do you think there's a chance it could be good? I think that... I think the casting

is a lot better than the previous Fantastic Four films I think for me that's probably going to carry the film for me

but I would I don't know I it feels a lot like the other two Fantastic Four films really it feels like

like I'm talking script wise okay like i know that they're going in the negative zone now instead of out of space or whatever but it does still feel like the setting is new york and there's going to be a big showdown and you see that kind of blast of light yeah i think there's going to be a showdown in new york at night and it's going to be mostly the same but yeah yeah i don't okay okay so who the six people that go into the negative zone initially yeah i'm holding up five fingers but the audience can tell that yes um look i didn't want to use my other hand i'm buying stuff on asos um

it's the fantastic four doom Doom, and... Someone else. Some people have said maybe the Mole Man Man. Really? Mole Man Man? Yeah. But he lives under the ground. He's a Mole Man. Maybe that's where he gets his Mole Man power.

No, he's always had them. Yeah, but in this, it's different, though. No, I don't like that. I like the fact that in the Fantastic Four universe, all kinds of crazy stuff is coming from all angles. Yeah, cool. I agree. Not everybody has to get their powers from the same place.

Yeah, I hate... Exactly. Spider-Man. The amazing Spider-Man-man exactly everybody gets their powers from the basement flash nude flash tv series everybody's got the same powers from the bloody yeah i don't i don't like any yeah any universe where well i'm sure there's a few but like when you reduce say the marvel universe down to one yeah thing like the Fantastic Four film franchise, and go, well, everybody gets their powers from a cosmic radiation event or something. Or Smallville or whatever.

It's always Meteor Rocks, isn't it? It's the Green Rock. Yeah, it's the Green Rock. That good old Green Rock. I would say it's probably either somebody they have to rescue, maybe. That's why they have to go back. That might be a reason. Or he's Cannon Fodder. And then he's the Mole Man. back? Yep. That might be a reason. Or he's cannon fodder?

And then he's the Mole Man. Yeah, that's what I said as well. Or he's cannon fodder, yeah. Yeah, just to say, well, this is a dangerous universe. Maybe they go back and he's like, now I'm the Mole Man! Ah, twist!

Yeah. It'd be a big twist. That would be a great twist. Look, regardless, I am looking forward to this just to see what is the deal. Me too. Yeah.

I'm going to say best movie for whenever it comes out whatever year this year oh definitely not definitely not then no so yeah we're all happy with all this i think or whatever yeah look the next trailer will tell us a lot more and the movie itself will tell us a lot more oh definitely probably tell us everything yeah that's right yeah but i think mason that's um that's all we're going to talk about for stuff this week before other things oh yes so let's move on to a quick one and also new equipment yeah there's always a chance this doesn't record yeah and if we bang on for two hours about whatever and then all of a sudden we get nothing we'll be real upset we'll be real upset so you know what it's time for though what is it time

for what we're reading oh what we we gonna read. Correct. Right. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? What do you gonna read? Reading. Well, what I gonna read actually is what I gonna listen to. Is it coming out this week? What's that?

You're gonna be guest appearing. Oh, yeah. You're making a guest appearance on a podcast called Plumbing the Death Star that was what that was my what we reading can't have it also you're not gonna listen to yourself i have to yeah i'm gonna listen to it don't do that why not i have to listen to this every week yeah but you have to look it doesn't matter i but i enjoy doing it so i'd like to hear okay all right great okay that's good too so yeah basically this is a podcast from Australian guys who live near us called Plumbing the Death Star. I know you know this.

Yeah, I know this. But basically I went to their podcast area and they've got like a proper setup. Now ours is crap. It's great now. It's so crisp. How crisp it is. That was a fly flapping its wings.

That's how good this is. Anyway, Plumbing the Death Star, they sort of talk about the logistics that was a fly flapping its wings that's how good this is anyway Plumbing the Death Star they sort of talk about the logistics of various like you know

sci-fi I can give you some examples sci-fi scenarios yeah for example like I'm not necessarily sci-fi yeah but just like movies

movie universe ideas and they sort of break down the logic of it so like for example, when does Sentience begin in Toy Story? Why hasn't Hogwarts been shut down?

How was everyone okay with the Truman Show? Like in that universe? And why did it... How much did it cost? How do they get the funding for that? Which horror movie villain would you fight? Is Obi-Wan Kenobi incompetent? That's a good one.

Basically, if you go to this, just scroll through and just pick something that you're interested in. Pick something you like, yeah. And they're breezy. They're like 30 to 40 minutes. They're easy to listen to. Can you reveal the topic you're talking about? Yeah, absolutely.

Well, basically, it won't be out this week, but it'll be out closer to May. They're getting in a whole little... Nice, then I've got mine covered for the next... I've got my What You Read in covered for weeks now. That's right. But yeah, sorry, my topic was they're getting a whole lot of different people to come in and talk about the Star Wars prequels and how they would have made them. Right, okay.

So basically I came up with a trilogy of prequels. Oh, sure. And then we kind of just went through that. Fantastic. And it was good fun. And they've got, like I said, proper recording. They've got people sitting on the other side of glass. Oh, yes.

Monitoring stuff. We don't have that, do we? We've got that glass got, like I said, proper recording. They've got people sitting on the other side of glass, like monitoring stuff. We don't have that, do we? We've got that glass window, but there's nothing out there. No, that's true. There's a bin and my Christmas tree. Sure. That I'd be ready to get rid of. And I've hung a sign over it that just says,

Our listeners on the Christmas tree. So, yeah, I would definitely, yeah. It's kind of in a similar vein to kind of how we do it. By that, I mean, we're both Australian. Yeah, that's how we do it. So yeah, Sans Pants Radio, that's what they're kind of called. And they do a few podcasts, but Plumbing the Death Star. Is inherently the best one because you've been on it.

Apparently, yes, that's right. But yeah, anything else you're going to read? Let me check what I've been reading. I can do one from Phil, the official web slinger in the meantime. Fantastic. I'd like to hear it. Hey guys, you guys should check out the Zombie Fallout series of books by Mark Tufo. They're a great series of books that are horror slash comedy genre.

Well worth a read. I've heard that they are getting the comic book treatment soon. So keep an eye out for them as well. Cool. We will keep an eye out for them. Yeah. Will you? Yes.

Good. Better write it down because otherwise I'll definitely out for them. Yeah. Will you? Yes. Good. Better write it down because otherwise I'll definitely forget and not do that. So that's great. Oh, you know what I've been watching actually and it's been out for a while. Yeah.

It's Review with Forrest McNeil. Okay. So in Australia there was a there was a show also called Review. Yeah. By Oh, that dude.

Somebody. Red hair guy. Yeah. Review by doesn't matter. Anyway, there's an American version of it and it's been it's been out

recently a couple of years ago but I've only just got around to it and it's with Andy Daly Andy Daly comedian Andy Daly

he's the best as Forrest McNeil and he's a guy who reviews everything like he doesn't review like movies or TV shows

he reviews things like stealing or getting a divorce or getting addicted to drugs or what have you and so it's

is it better than the Australian version? they're both good I think that this one there's more consequences like it's a in the original one if he reviewed say stealing the next week it'd just be a new episode

but in this one the consequences build up throughout the course of the season. So, yeah, it's very funny. Pretty dark, Andy Daly. Yeah, definitely. But that's a good show. All right, I'll check it out.

Do that. Let's move on to letters. It's time for letters. Oh, yes. This is from Mark. Hi, James. Official Captain Canuck here. Just got through listening to the podcast.

I think we already have an official Captain Canuck, but whatever. Well, now we've got two. Great. No, we can't. They have to we can't have to fight they have to fight exactly yeah unless whatever powers they have i don't know just got through listening to the podcast and the short circuit two clip that i definitely put in because i remember oh yeah great maybe remember that not only was that film uh movie filmed in my hometown toronto but my mom bought me downtown as a child to watch the movie Magic for myself. The movie is complete garbage. Well, I don't know about that. But watching it set in New York City

whilst being littered with Toronto landmarks is really jarring. I had the same issue with the latest Hulk film which was filmed at the doorstep of my university. I was wondering if either you or your dickhead co-host Hang on. Who's he talking about? You don't have a...

Oh. Alright. I have similar issues watching movies filmed in australian cities but set elsewhere thanks guys uh ghost riders filmed in melbourne it was that was uh very that movie's jarring to watch for guys yes absolutely yeah yeah but you're not jarred by the location it's supposed to be set in texas is it or something yes i think so but it's clearly yeah it's very first i think movie appearance of Rebel Wilson. Yeah, that's right. She looks like a goth girl.

Yeah, that's right. There was a Jackie Chan film made in Melbourne. Rumble in the Bronx? No, it was called Mr. Nice Guy, I think. Oh, okay. The Tuxedo. Not the Tuxedo, no. Rush Hour 3.

Yes. Go on, sorry. And they filmed a sequence in Melbourne Central, which is the big shopping district in the centre of Melbourne. Yeah. That kind of thing. And I was there for the filming of that. And it was just a lot of the director yelling at people to shut up

as they walked past. Like, we're filming a movie. Shut up. And as Jackie Chan... In a shopping centre. Yeah, but it was outside, sort of at night kind of thing. But he was still he was real grumpy

and I didn't care for it you know what it's outside yeah you shut up yeah exactly you shut up thank you James

so did you see any Jackie Chan stunts there was a lot of him sort of running up and down an escalator but that was about it was there a bit where

he'd maybe run into a room and then bad guys are there and he does this kind of weird kind of double take and then runs in a different direction no there weren't any bad guys it was there a bit where he'd maybe run into a room and then bad guys are there and he does this kind of weird kind of double take and then runs in a different direction no there weren't any bad guys it was just him

oh okay what else the Matrix is that the twist in that movie yeah no bad guys ever the twist in that film is that I think he's got a

there's a tape like a video tape that's got some incriminating evidence on it I don't know how that is but yeah but the version

on the tape like that he puts into a you know vcr or whatever he watches actually has edits and cuts in it like the ones we see in the film they've just taken the the stuff they filmed for the movie and they put it directly and put some grain over the top of it or whatever and put it on this thing so he's watching this incriminating tape and it just has edits in it even though it's supposed to be filmed like it's got edits and cuts from different angles despite the fact that it's supposed to be filmed on one video camera all in one shot yeah the matrix films were filmed in sydney yeah so you see some australian yeah i didn't what is most jarring generally is that is the bad

american accent definitely yeah the the featured extras are forced to put on usually and i find that in start the star Wars prequels as well the second two anyway because they were filmed in Australia but yeah there's a lot of that in that as well

but yeah if there's ever anything filming I stay right away from it I don't want to be held up and whatever

I just I don't care like the time when we saw Hugh Jackman remember we went and saw the Days of Future Past premiere thing

and he was like behind a crowd of people and we just went whatever yeah it's not this is not worth it it's not that I don't love Hugh Jackman I do but I'm like I'm not shoving through just so I can see a guy who I know what he looks like right exactly yeah what what benefit are we gonna get from that yeah hey Hugh are you enjoying being in the country you were born in sure am mate, mate! Thumbs up, big thumbs up. But he wouldn't hear us because of the thousands of people. Actually got a letter, a very nice letter this week from a guy who Hugh Jackman comes into his shop and sees like the nicest guy ever.

No surprise there. Totally. This is from Callum. Hello chaps, loving the show and must thank you for brightening each Monday morning and late night listens. The question I proposed to you this week is, should you accept it? What do you think will happen to Marvel post phase three?

I feel I'll not be able to fill up. There's something, something infinity wars and things go bad and whatever. I don't know. What do you think? I think they're going to start again. Ground level. Okay. I think we're going to do infinity war.

We're going to do Infinity War we're going to do the most kind of cosmic the biggest event we can yeah and I think they'll be like

well we can't get any bigger than that so I think they'll start again they'll pick some more ground level characters

yeah maybe they'll take the Netflix characters okay there's a show around them maybe because we're

going to have a Defenders TV series maybe they could do a Defenders movie something like that

I don't know they might I think they're going to have a Defenders TV series maybe they could do a Defenders movie something like that I don't know they might I think they're going to start up with minor characters again yeah you're probably right who would you like to see in a new roster

in a new roster if they're starting completely I'd like to see Next Wave I know they're kind of a joke team sure yeah but I really like

all those guys and I think it would be like it would be a Next Wave is sort of a if you haven't read next wave you should definitely read it it's by warren ellis it's super it's it's very funny yeah and it's super over the top and it's it's it's called next wave agents of hate and it's about these guys who used to it's about a lot of kind of superheroes and former superheroes like a like a half dozen members of the team who were unaware that working for an organisation called HATE,

like H-A-T-E, who aren't aware they were the bad guys, and then sort of break out and go rogue and have to find and stop all these guys. Sounds a lot like Alias Mason. It does sound great. Then we're totally on board. And the leader of HATE is like a Nick Fury-esque character

who's out of his mind completely. Great. It's a lot of fun. But it's got like it's got Machine Man yep who sort of rose to prominence in Marvel

Zombies and stuff like that that's a really good run isn't it yeah Machine Man yeah so this was prior to

that it's got Monica Rambeau who used to be one of the Captain Marvels it's got the Captain who is like he's got generic super strength and super powers, but

he's just an asshole all the time. Great, great. It's got Boom Boom from the X-Men and some other people, and it's just, they're just, oh, it's got Elsa Bloodstone, who's a monster hunter. Great, good. And they're kind of, they're just, they're a really dysfunctional team, and they're really fun. Okay.

And I would like to see that. And I think once we've done, you know, war yeah people who've people who are not comic book fans who have gone all the way through all those characters and all that all those events they would be more they would be up for more kind of like meta stuff sure it is a bit silly i was thinking maybe um ms marvel the current ms marvel yeah okay that would work too, yeah. And that would be good as a ground level kicking off point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because at that point, obviously the Avengers are super famous.

Yep. And we'd have a whole lot of other heroes introduced and whatever. Yeah, totally. So why not start there? I would like to see, and again, we're talking about more meta stuff. I would like to see a damage control film. Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. That would be super good, I think.

Yeah, that would be cool. But anyway. But anyway anyway but anyway probably other things we probably talk about that we're probably doing an episode for those who don't damage control is the is a private company who is employed by the city of new york to rebuild the city every time all the superheroes destroy it yeah which was the series in i guess the early 90s and it's it's yeah again super fun and it would make sense, you know, once you've got the idea of, well, there's all these superhero battles, New York is constantly being destroyed,

who's fixing that damage controller kind of thing? And they love their jobs. Yeah. Not true? They go on strike at one point. It's pretty good. There's a scene in the first issue where, I think it's one of the Tinkerer's robots goes mad

and he collapses onto the World Trade Center buildings. You can edit this out. And, you know, they have to rebuild the city or whatever because it's run rampage or whatever. And there's a scene where right at the end, like the foreman of damage control, like the main kind of boots on the ground guy, he's looking out his window and he sees the two World Trade Center towers and one's like incredibly crooked.

Like it's got like a huge crack in it and the top half is like, you know, 10 feet to the left of the bottom half or whatever. And he's like, eh, close enough. So, you know.

Pretty good. Pretty good. All right. We'll do an episode on that. No doubt. This is from Billy Arundel. Oh yeah, from Twitter. I'm a big fan of him. I don't know if he's a big fan of me yeah it's you wow i'm not changing my stance on this guy i believe in him i live under a rock when it comes to some marvel books so to speak then he says in brackets literally and i've never really read much fantastic

form material and i don't own any of it i was wondering if there are any standouts for either of you that are worth a read oh Oh, he mentioned that on Twitter. Oh, yeah. Make him do it. Hard copies. Because he buys hard copies. Okay. I liked...

There's a... There was a Marvel Knights miniseries. Maybe it's an ongoing, but it was a Fantastic Four series where they go bankrupt. Yep. And they sort of have to move out of the Baxter building and all that sort of stuff and sort of rebuild their lives. Okay. And that's a really good series.

There's a series called Future Foundation. Yes. Which is sort of a spin-off. And it's sort of the idea being that, you know, the Fantastic Four saved the world, but the Future Foundation has to sort of, is finding solutions to make a better world. Okay. And it's kind of a bigger team. Yep.

It's got like, it's got the Fantastic Four Spider Fantastic Four Spider-Mans on the team as well. It's got Kristoff, who is Doctor Doom's son. It's got Dragon Man, who is a robot Dragon Man. It's got all kinds of stuff. So those two things. Just those two things. I recommend the new Fantastic Four movie. Great.

Fantastic. Can't go wrong. Can't go wrong. It's from Dale Martin, the official couch-sized dog of the podcast. Oh. Very good. That's like the guy,

the dog from Inhumans. That's where that came from. Yeah, yeah. As we said, it doesn't matter. Oh, great. Not important. Hey, guys. I've been mulling over an idea

that I wanted to suggest to you for an episode of the podcast for a while now. I've come up... Lockjaw is his name. Yes. The idea I've come up with is great, in my opinion. I hope you think it's great too. The basic idea is similar to the Hero and Villain Showdown episodes, but instead of that, we, the fans,

email you guys the names of actors and actresses and tell us... And you tell us what comic book character they would be best at playing. Okay. I thought we were going to face them off in a fight. Yeah, well that's what i thought as well right both of those things so yeah i'm all for that doing like a casting kind of thing and also like who would win between james woods and a block of wood just a big block of wood dropped really from a from a high ceiling

yeah good question it's hard to know isn't it though yeah he'd probably do a tuck and roll yeah he'd be good like that yeah it's fast hi james i'm shane from london brackets england been listening since i found your awesome videos on youtube i've been catching up i'm still catching up i have about 20 to go and i'll get up to date soon i wanted to email and thank you for getting through my working day without killing my co-workers so thank you very much so thanks no problem from them too i also wanted to be the official geeky gay of the show because I'm very geeky and slightly gay.

Done. Absolutely. P.S. This is the bit that I wanted to get to. Why does Mason look like an anorexic Tony Stark? Snap. I would say you have like a same build. I look like a fatter Tony Stark if anything. Really? Yeah. I'd like to see you guys side by side. I'd like to

Well he's taller marginally. I don't think that he is. No he would be. I mean like to see you guys side by side. I'd like to... Well, he's taller marginally. I don't think that he is. No, he would be. I mean, you see him where he wears like... He wears those... He wears like... What are they called? Stilts?

I think he's like 5'6", 5'7". He could not be 5'7". There's no way. I reckon he's like 5'10". Nah, I don't reckon he is. Okay. I'm like 5'7". Okay.

We'll never know, will we? We'll never know because there's nowhere to find that out. Yeah. Yeah. This is from Manu. Hello, guys. My name is Manu from San Diego, California. Hello.

Brackets London. Not really. Just wanted to say I love your podcast because unlike other media review sites, you guys know that your opinion doesn't matter and that's why I value it so much. Wait a second. Our opinions don't matter? You've been telling me lies this whole time. I had a question for you two.

Since I haven't seen the original Star Wars trilogy, I was wondering if I need to watch them because I want to watch Star Wars The Force Awakens, but I'm a little intimidated by everything. I don't know about the Star Wars universe. I've seen the prequels when I was a kid, so I don't remember them that well, but I recently watched the Star Wars The Clone Wars animated series

and loved it. I just wanted to ask because I'm sure there are others in my boat. Thanks. Grab those gems and fuck art. Nice. Good. animated series and loved it I just wanted to ask because I'm sure there are others in my boat thanks grab those gems and fuck art nice good

he's covered all the bases yes I think you should you should watch it look I think I think there are certain films that still hold up yeah

Short Circuit 2 Short Circuit 2 Generation X the movie the pilot movie yeah the pilot movie occasionally I'll go to

there's a cinema in Melbourne called The Aster, which is closing down soon, which is very sad. Good. Wait a second. But they will run, they'll run old films. They might run, you know, Raiders.

They might do a run of Indiana Jones films or whatever and they'll do Raiders. And like, you know, people will go in and, you know, younger people who haven't seen that at all ever. Like there's people who are in it for the nostalgia value.

And I see people go in and just really enjoy it. They still hold up because they're well written and they're enjoyable films. And I think Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back definitely would still hold up in that kind of situation. I'd say maybe see it on the biggest screen you can. Sure. Maybe wait for there to

they'll definitely do like a marathon near you or something yeah exactly there'll be a local cinema it's like hey come and watch all the Star Wars movies overnight or whatever and do that do that with a crowd I think that would be really enjoyable cool you can probably skip three you can probably skip Return of the Jedi

just know everything works out fine yeah but you need to see it. I guess you do. All right, it completes the trilogy. All right, wait for there to be a trilogy release at your local cinema. Watch them all. If you can, try and watch them, I guess, as close to the originals as you can, I guess, instead of the special editions.

Yeah, true. Not that it really matters that much. I mean, they're the same. You get the idea. Yeah, totally, yeah. But yeah. Yeah, look, I think they're fun action films yeah

so especially Return of the Jedi no I don't say that at all you put lies in there they heard your thoughts oh no hello James and Mason I heard on Stuff You Should Know podcast

that they're marketing directly that marketing directly to children was outlawed in Australia many years ago is this true? if so had this affected your buying habits when you were kids

or toys and collectibles a big thing for you guys as they were for us in the US? As a Gen Xer, I remember being bombarded by Star Wars toys and McDonald's Happy Meals commercials as a kid.

How about you guys? Cheers from Charlie. P.S. Sorry if I sound like a douche referring to myself as a Gen Xer. No, that's all right. That's fine. We're Gen Y, aren't we?

Are we? No, we're Y. Yeah. It stands for yeah. It does. When we were kids, that law did come in, didn't it? But that wasn't in place when we were kids. No, I don't think so.

They marketed everything all the time to us. A lot of serials. I think it was pretty similar to the US. I think so. A lot of action figures. A lot of Transformers that turned into rocks. Remember those guys? Yeah, the Rock Lords.

By the way. They were the rock lords by the way they were go bots by the way they were connected were they yeah they were a spin off of the go bots

the go bots might be coming a movie not a joke great imagine if it's a better movie than Transformers

not hard why wouldn't it be a better movie there's no way it could be a unless it's done by like the asylum

the guys that do like mega shark or whatever yeah if it's no they've got transmorphers that it needs

I think do Hasbro own the go-bots now I think they do I think you're right actually then maybe it will be as bad

crossover but maybe okay how about this they don't care about it as much so they give it to like an unknown director who makes

a good movie yeah and they've been you know and they're like we don't understand why is as much so they give it to like an unknown director who makes a good movie yeah and they've been you know and they're like we don't understand why is it good you know what yeah yeah good point i'll watch that yeah definitely leader one psy kill the one the rock lords the one that turned into a car yeah he's a good one great do they have guys that combine into a bigger guy uh not that i remember they had like that's not true yeah they had like battle suits that they could get into okay yeah like people like i get into clothes to go and do things yeah exactly yeah okay good yeah great um yeah about that law i know there was something passed but there's still there's so many ways around it i don't really think that no i don't

i remember a lot of stuff being marketed to us whether that was in place or not this is relatively recently though but we don't obviously get up and watch things early in the morning like kids tv shows right but all the advertising is already in the shows like if you watch whatever kids watch ben 10 which i don't think is that popular anymore you still want to go and buy all the ben 10 stuff boy do i yeah so yeah i yeah i don't think it makes that big a difference i think the biggest thing was i think they stopped marketing a lot of sugar cereals yeah totally because i don't really push those here as much as they do in the states no not at all yeah i hate that shit anyway wow do you like it look steady on with your trademark rant there mate we've had enough of

it all right what cereal do you enjoy no i like frosties I won't lie to you yeah look I'm not saying yeah like you know those Fruit Loops they're completely inedible I don't know how you're right

you're right garbage anyway last email anyway yeah we had a whole bunch of action had all the action yeah we had all that stuff

just pile them up just pile them up in a trolley and I'll take them all yeah that's it yeah hey James it's the guy who failed his exams because he didn't revise because he couldn't

stop listening to the podcast of the podcast. Nice. I'm going to study English at university next year in the hopes of becoming a journalist, hopefully in the area of film and television. I was hoping since you're an editor at comicbookmovie.com. This one's for you. I'm going to tune out. Get back on that ASOS.

Good, yeah. Check if that site's loaded. It has. It's much improved. They fixed it, I think. If you guys could give me some advice on how to achieve my dreams. Thanks for reading, Alex from the UK. I get this question a lot, and I think we should do a Q&A shortly.

And look, no authority on anything, as you know. I'm aware. I've met you. But I think the most important thing is obviously an online presence. Yes, these days, yeah. You've got to, you're going with a bank of work that you've already done. And the thing is as well, you can make enough money off that.

Yeah. It'll take years, but you can make money off it. And sites do begin to notice like my stuff started some every now and then it gets picked up. Like I had something on Dorkly earlier this week. Or io9. Okay,

great. And that's, I was really happy, but it it's you got to build something yourself that's how you that's how you get noticed no one's going to hand you a job unfortunately no exactly yeah i know right how dare they but yeah no you're right in that you know i'm sure you know back in the day you probably still had to hustle for work and that sort of thing. But, you know, you could get the degree and get out there and people would be impressed by that. They'd like your moxie. They would love your moxie. Just kick down that door and demand something.

But now, like, there's so much out there on the internet for free. Yeah. That, you know, especially now that a lot of websites are just sort of content aggregators. Yeah. They don't need to, they don't need to purchase content from anyone. They can just be like, hey, this website said this.

And just put that away. Exactly. Like there's very few websites, not very few, but less have like a writing staff than they used to. Yeah. Like the Escapist obviously

has a whole lot of people making videos and writing articles. Cracked is the same. Yeah. And because they're massive massive websites but for comic book movie which still does very well yeah that's all based the way it works is you post an article and you get the ad revenue from that and i only post like two a week i do the place a podcast and maybe a video yeah so i don't get a lot of money from that it's

more the exposure sure yeah um but the way that i got started there was i just posted it because anybody can post user submitted things and i posted a few you know not really thinking anything of it and then i made an iron man 3 i don't like this movie very much sure video and the the um the current editor emailed me and said hey do you want to make some stuff for us or whatever and i was like absolutely definitely so like you had to quit with the language yes i had to do that initially sure so it's just about building up a bank of stuff and i guess what's that a 10 000 hours of something until you're good at it yeah is that right i don't know if that's accurate yeah well something really long but i feel like you gotta practice you gotta practice and you've gotta put stuff out there yeah exactly and and i

also i read a piece of advice which was something like or someone told me you got to work like there's somebody working 24 hours a day against you yeah that's true because because again like we said there are people there is somebody against there is there's i mean you know it's not yeah there's there's somebody if you're reviewing movies and you want to make that a career there's somebody reviewing movies who's just doing it because they love to do that and they've got 50 times the amount of subscribers yeah and whatever and they've got a lot of free time exactly and the other thing is you've got to make it unique to you like there's a thousand guys who are sitting in front of a webcam with a boring blank wall behind them as they talk about the Fantastic Four trailer. Yeah. And who gives a shit, right?

And you've got a boring blank wall and a microphone that you cover up that. Exactly. With little animation things. Yeah, that's right. And so you've got to make it so why would somebody- And swearing. And swearing. Why would somebody come to you over somebody else?

Yeah, yeah, totally. You've got to make that unique. So get out there and be, and make me worse at my job. Yeah. Put me out of the job. But yeah, I don't know. that's kind of how you do it or be rich and know somebody yeah that works too yeah definitely yeah so but yeah you're basically i've only like started to make money off youtube now in the past probably six months but i do this and that occasionally will be cut off all of a sudden if you break a rule suddenly or somebody complains,

somebody's like, I don't like what you said about the Winter Soldier. He's my favourite. I'm going to report you for racism or whatever. And then they just dump you from YouTube. Yeah, that's it. So it can be taken away at any point. But I got to that point where I'm making some money.

And through the Patreon and whatever is slash Mr. Sunday Movies for oh yeah patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday Movies yeah

because I work at this like I have a regular job and I get home and I do this till like midnight then I go to bed and I get up and I check the news

you dream about comic book movies I do yeah and then I like and I and then I look at it in the morning and then maybe

the lunchtime at work I'll go and bake something and then I'll come back. Sure. Like. So if you can hate your coworkers, that's good. And then avoid them.

Like I try to make it, like I'd make it breezy and fun and I enjoy doing it. Yep. But like, I literally put like every spare second of my time into this. Yeah, yeah. And, but I'm not saying you have to do that, but there has to be some level of dedication. You'd have more spare time before and after this podcast if I showed up on time. But you're like, show up at 8 and I'm like, okay. And then it's 8.30 and you're like, uh.

That's fine. It doesn't matter. I forgot to factor that in. I figured. Shouldn't have said that though because now I'll show up at 9. I know, right? Yeah. But yeah, that's just, yeah just work hard and stuff, I guess.

And of course, there's no guarantees. You also kind of have to be slightly good at something, I guess. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know.

But I'm sure you'll be the best. Absolutely. You, Mason. Thank you. Finally. Yeah. Believe in your dreams. That's the show for this week.

Absolutely. Thank you to the Bruton and the Basilisk for the themes. Yeah. Thank you to Golden Legend for the logo and for the t-on the Basslist for the themes yeah thank you to Golden Legend yes for the logo and for the t-shirts

yeah if you go to redbubble.com yeah or if you just type in the weekly planet t-shirts probably the first result the first result

yeah and people have been sending us pictures of them wearing that stuff and with grunts and whatever so we might do another giveaway

iPhone cases all kinds of stuff it's pretty great so thank you to those people. Like I said, I've not seen one in the wild yet. Yeah. But first person I see, I'm going to get a sweet photo, put it up on Twitter. Second person gets a punch in the face.

Then I'm just going to alternate. So you'll never know. You'll never know. You'll never know. Yeah. You know what? If I see someone wearing it, I don't know if I'd actually stop them. I reckon I'd just keep going.

I think you'd follow them creepily for a while to see what they're up to. This is good. You know, it was weird when I went and saw the Plumbing the Death Star guys. I've never met anybody who knows who I am

through the internet. And that was really kind of bizarre. But they're kind of nice. You know what I mean? Yeah. They're really good guys. Anyway. Great stuff.

Next week, I don't know. We'll talk about comic book movie stuff. Yeah, why next week I don't know we'll talk about comic book movie stuff yeah why not why don't we yeah you can find us

on the internet yes at weeklyplanetpod at facebook and twitter and gmail I'm at

wikipediabrown on twitter you can find me on doorclick because I'm a big time youtube celebrity oh jeez this guy it's gone to your head already

if you could email in and knock him down a peg or two that would be great that'd be real good. What else have we got? Mr. Sunday Movies. Patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday Movies.

And my YouTube channel and Twitter as well. Subscribe, tell people about the show. I don't know. At a certain point, the plugs at the end are going to be longer than the actual show. Yeah. And then we end. Exactly. We're done.

Like, we stop then. That's it. Yeah. Anything else? We got anything else to plug? Nah, probably not. That'll do it? Yeah.

Let's just all just have a good time yeah mate oh is that a new scent is that a new sign off i guess let's everybody have a good time i guess grab the gems yeah grab that gem that's what we say all right grab that gem bye guys see you guys fx is the veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.