The Weekly Planet - 73 Best Comic Book Trilogies

Episode Date: March 2, 2015

Power Rangers! Age Of Ultron! Spider-man! Alien! Other things! It's all happening in this week's episode of the show this is.Plus we talk the very best and worst comic book trilogies. Thanks as always for listening. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Laking up for it this week. No, we forgot the seventh member of the Movie Justice League. I don't know if you got the dozens of tweets and emails. I just want to say for the record, I was doing a bit. I was doing a comedy bit. I knew all the time The Flash was the seventh member. We do. I can be the

third member you know why it is even though we've talked about Ezra Miller for like months you know what it is it's because until that movie

comes out The Flash is a TV guy I don't think of him as because we haven't seen literally nothing of that game

that's my excuse anyway alright I accept your excuse great apology accepted also I was doing

a bit I wasn't I got an email here from Courtney Heck you remember Courtney Heck That's my excuse anyway. All right. I accept your excuse. Great. Apology accepted. Also, I was doing a bit. I wasn't. I got an email here from Courtney Heck. You remember Courtney Heck? Yes. From way back. Yeah. One of the first.

Probably the first. Probably the first ever listener. She wants to be the official. Aside from the one guy on iTunes that has to listen to every podcast. I don't think that guy does his job. If that was my job, I wouldn't do that job. Would you? If you have to listen to everything, I wouldn't.

I reckon they make him make make notes and stuff okay so i reckon there's like in the apple server somewhere yeah there's notes on our first podcast and it's like this won't last that's what it says poor audio quality we're talking about spider-man a lot i care for this anyway courtney yeah she's the official giant lizard genesis of the pot genesis genetist geneticist geneticist great as genetics is what i'm studying at college she college it up she was high school she's moved on uh i know you said uh you'd love to see a video of people yelling at the podcast when you get things wrong had i not been driving i may have been able to video myself yelling that you guys forgot the flash as the seventh member. I'm sure it's about a thousand people emailed you about that.

We just wanted to say that I am one of the many angry fans. Great. That's what I've always wanted to have, angry fans. But to be fair, people were pretty cool about it. You know, the people weren't like, you're an idiot. I'm out. People were, people were nice. I mean, we still, a lot of people call us idiots.

Oh, sure. Yeah. No, that's well deserved. Yeah. But on to sadder news. Yes. If that's even possible. No, there's no sadder news than us forgetting a small thing.

Leonard Nimoy passed away. He did. That's a shame. 83, which is... It's good endings, but it's not... I feel like that's not that old anymore. It's not that old, and I don't think it's that old in Hollywood. Yeah. Like, if you're a rich Hollywood guy't think it's that old in Hollywood. Yeah.

Like, if you're a rich Hollywood guy, you can live forever. Yeah, yeah. Like, bloody... What's his name? The guy who runs Fox. Oh, Rupert Murdoch. The guy's never going to die. I know he's not a Hollywood guy, but...

Sure. Money keeps him powerful. He's appeared on The Simpsons, one assumes. Right? Yeah, yeah. I don't think he voiced himself, but yeah. What does that dickhead live forever that's all I'm saying

but no it really sucks and there was a lot of really good tributes I never know whether to tweet out about these things you know what I mean I don't know

you know what I mean I'm like should you do the Vulcan salute yeah you know what I mean but no it sucks he was a

yeah I always liked Leonard Nimoy I used to work I did work experience like an internship yeah at a bookshop yeah

like when I was like 15 or whatever. And I stole a lot of books. And one of the books that I stole was Leonard Nimoy's I Am Spock. And it was a great read. It's like his biography. He released two biographies. One called I Am Not Spock. And then, because you know, that was kind of the joke that he was this emotionless robot guy.

And that was the era when you would actors would definitely get typecast if they had any kind of iconic role like James Bond or Adam West Batman Adam West Batman

like that so he released a biography called I Am Not Spock where it's like this is other stuff that I do come on guys and then

many years later he released I Am Spock where it's kind of it was he sort of embraced that and he had a lot of in the book he has a lot of conversations with Spock where he's kind of it was he sort of embraced that and he had a lot of in the book he has a lot of conversations

with Spock okay pictures track that down I'm sure it's around yeah I distributed a lot of copies that I stole oh good

I've got an email here from Billy Arundel he goes I'm sure the death of Leonard Nimoy will be mentioned very sad news nope we're not going to do it

very sad news for Trekkies as well as fans of science fiction in general. He was also an excellent writer, poet, photographer, and some great music too. Give the touch of Leonard Nimoy a listen. I'll doubt you'll be disappointed, or you will be, especially if you don't like 1970s American folk music.

Whatever. Oh boy. Anyways, I just want to say my favourite memory of Leonard Nimoy is watching Star Trek, the original series, when I'd be home for lunch during grade school. I enjoyed the episodes that Spock would be forced to show emotions in some way, like the sight of paradise, a mock time.

A mock time, yes. A mock time, yep, and all our yesterdays. It was a great actor, often lost behind a great character. He will be missed. Take care, guys. Live long and prosper. P.S. Tell Mason I heard he was a big fan of me on Twitter and that the feeling is mutual.

Ooh. There you go. Way to overshadow Lee Lennon-Emoid's death, Mason. You're with my great tweets. Oh, yeah. Billy, thank you very much for providing a good send-off for Lennon-Emoid so we didn't have to do any content. Exactly.

Yes. But no, he will be missed. He was a good dude. Yeah, yeah. Why didn't Shatner die? That's all I'm saying. Sorry, I shouldn't say that. No was a good dude. Yeah, yeah. Why didn't Shatner die? That's all I'm saying. Sorry, I shouldn't say that. No, that's fair.

Okay, good. All right. I have this feeling Shatner might be like, why didn't I die? I've got so much press from this. There were some Avengers posters released this week. We got a new Avengers poster. I didn't see it.

One where Iron Man was at the front. One with Captain America was at the front. We got a solo iron man one a solo black widow one a solo hulk one a solo thor one solo nick fury one and they're doing a few more as the days go on is there a vision one not yet keeping it under wraps keeping under wraps that's how they do it good yep but uh the good news is that robert downey jr posted the first one and that was on the 24th of uh february he said expect big news eight days from now. So people are like, what could it be? Is it going to be a Spider-Man thing?

Is it going to be like an announcement of a new Iron Man movie? Has he like, I don't know, new facial hair? Sure. Is he going to bring back the chin strap? Yeah. He hasn't got the chin strap in this one. Have you noticed? He only had it for three.

Bold move or the correct move? Like I think. Why did they go chin strap for that one? I think it's because, here's my guess, because in the third one, and we might do this this week. It's so hard to maintain. Yeah, but I mean...

Not that I've ever had one. We should talk about trilogies this week. We are, maybe. But I think in a trilogy, by the third one, the star doesn't care anymore. Oh, okay. And they've stopped working out. Like in Blade 3.

Yeah. Sleeved. He's wearing long sleeves. Tobey Maguire as well. Yeah, because he's like, I can't be bothered working out. And I think Robert Downey Jr. is in good shape for a guy his age.

Yeah. But he is a guy his age. Yeah. At a certain point, you start losing chin definition. And I think he's like, well, we'll just give him a chin strap, beard,

and that gives the illusion of chin. you're saying that somehow we're between iron man 3 and age of ultron he's got that back though i think so yeah yeah doing some chin ups oh yes very good thank you but yeah so any thoughts on what that big announcement might be it's probably the vision yeah probably just gonna give it away yeah it might be. It's probably The Vision. Yeah. Probably just going to give it away. Yeah. It might be a new trailer. Who knows? It remains to be seen. We'll come back to Spider-Man, though, in a bit, maybe. Okay. All right. Dennis Villeneuve will direct Blade Runner 2.

Was that the official announcement? That's right. He directed Prisoners, which was Hugh Jackman. Making a shrug. He's got Paul Dano in a hot shower. Did you see Prisoners, which was Hugh Jackman. I'm making a shrug. He's got Paul Dano in a hot shower. Did you see Prisoners? No. It was really good. I like Paul Dano and stuff.

Gyllenhaal, Jake Gyllenhaal's in it, I think. He's a cop. The kids get kidnapped and Hugh Jackman's like, where are my bloody kids? No memory of this. He's really good in it. No memory of this. He's got a goatee. He's got some chin definition.

Absolutely. He's not. He's gated, if anything. You haven't seen Prisoners. No. I know. You hate the. He's gated, if anything. You haven't seen Prisoners. No. I know. You hate the guys who are like, oh my God, I haven't seen it. Yeah, exactly.

I hate new mates. What about this, though? I haven't seen Birdman yet. It's fine. Do whatever you want. You did flip out a few. I did not. You did so.

Oh, maybe I did. Oh, no, I said I'm surprised you haven't. Yeah. But I wouldn't say, I would hardly say I flipped out. Okay, sure. Yeah. But yeah, Blade Runner 2. Harrison Ford will return. That's weird, isn't it? As the Blade Runner. yeah but I wouldn't say I would hardly say I flipped out okay sure but yeah Blade Runner 2 Harrison Ford will return that's weird

as the Blade Runner that was his job wasn't it is that the official description of the job and the thing I guess so but it's never really defined what that is

just chase after robots robot chaser that's Rick Deckard robot chaser how good's that yeah much better

but is he a robot though because as i've said before sometimes harrison ford thinks he's not a robot just to be clear listeners also we know that their replicants are not robots no we don't know that yeah we've talked about this it depends on which version and who you ask the director says that he was it's left ambiguous depending on the cut sometimes there's a unicorn dream sometimes they drive off into the sunset at the end sometimes harrison ford looks directly in the camera and says i'm a replicant and i was all along what's a replicant you mean a robot yeah yeah that's what i thought you meant yeah uh so what do you think they're gonna go with i think i don't i don't think they could do either yeah the replicants can age because he was

if he was a replicant he was a special kind of replicant. Right. Like one that was very indistinguishable from humans. Yeah. I mean, there were others who were like that, but he didn't seem to have the strength of a replicant. That's true, yeah. And he had kind of more control over his emotions and whatnot.

Do you think they're going to leave it ambiguous again? I reckon that's what... No, if I had to guess, I would say, and I do have to guess, I'm contractually obligated to guess right now, I'm going to say they're going to leave it ambiguous again up until the end of this movie. Okay, fair enough.

So we still... Where they drop his pants and he's like a Ken doll. Yeah, exactly, yeah. He's like, oh, I should have checked. It's been 40 years. Yeah. Yeah. No wonder I never needed to pee for 40 years.

So odd. Yeah, great. I think it's probably good that Ridley Scott's not doing it because he's doing other stuff and whatever. You know, it's sometimes nice to get a different vision on things, like the vision. Like the vision. Do we have any idea what they're going to base it on?

Is this original story? I'm not sure there was probably a big press release I didn't read yeah sure absolutely but there are

sequel novels aren't there there are yeah first one's called what is it Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep and the second one's called Maybe

question mark yeah do you know what it's actually called okay the Blade Runner the film is based on a short story by Philip K. Dick called Do Andro Streamer of Electric Sheep. Yeah. Which is not really about...

Sheep. Yeah. No, it actually is more about sheep than it is about replicants, if I'm honest. So would you say Babe is a closer adaptation than Blade Runner? Yeah, definitely. More pig in the city. Okay. There's a lot of sheep in Babe 1. Because it's all about a pig herding sheep.

Thematically, Pig in the City is more like Blade Runner. Oh, it's more like Society's Sheeps. Yeah, it's just Society's Sheeps. I get it. Precisely. And there's a book sequel to Blade Runner, the film, called Edge of a Human, I think. And there's a third one, which I can't remember. And those are sequels to the... To Blade Runner, film called Edge of Human I think and there's a third one which I can't remember and those are sequels to Blade Runner

not the not the original short story okay there you go well there you go you'd think there'd be some more

Philip K. Dick short stories that Hollywood could just grab at they do they constantly but there's so many there's a lot

there's a lot Paycheck obviously yeah Paycheck, obviously. Yeah. Paycheck. Do you think maybe... It's him and Isaac as a mob. They love it. Yeah.

Do you think... Maybe, now that I think about it, maybe there's been too many black marks on his work. Oh, okay, right. Like, not due to any fault of his own. Yeah. But because they were like, well, Total Recall remake didn't work,

so that's bad for Philip K. And Paycheck didn't work, so blah, you know. Oh, we've got Minority Report. That was good. Yeah, uh-huh. Just Men Bureau is okay. Sure. Men who, angels who wear hats who run through doors.

Yeah, yeah. So you see that one? That's a much better title. Screamers I haven't seen. Scanner Darkly's not bad. That's so shady, the one. Yeah, but that's a very weird genre, isn't it? Yeah, it's not.

Like, you can't build a franchise on that. You can't sell any lunchboxes based on a Scanner Darkly. Imposter. Don't know that one. No. Radio Free Abelmuth. Oh, sure. Radio Free Abelmuth.

Next. That's why I was laughing. Oh, yeah, sure. I didn't know Next was one. This guy can't be right. Anyway, Confessions Something Something French. Other things why I was laughing. Oh, yeah, sure. I didn't know next was one. This guy can't be right. Anyway, Confessions, something, something French. Other things.

Yeah. Great. Yeah. All of those are pretty good, aren't they? Yes. Minority Report TV show, though. Set in the same universe. It's like 10 years after. They got one of the future seeing people back for it.

Of the three. Of the three. Great. But no other original cast i think there might be a few i know but yeah yeah it's really hard to replicate the acting style of somebody flapping around in a like a shallow tide pool with a shaved head yeah anyway we should move on i guess yep um the new there's going to be a new dc spin-off tv series off the flash and atom is more of flash yeah it's a team-based one uh they're going to give a new DC spin-off TV series off the Flash and Atom what a Flash yeah

it's a team based one they were going to give Atom his own TV show someone wrote in this week and said or tweeted they want a blue beetle they want a Ted Kord

yeah who it is who tweeted that I can't remember sorry guy no but I got that tweet also so that would have been great

but maybe they're saving it for the movie that would be great yeah okay here's my question are you caught up on the flash yes you can't you caught up on arrow yes has he shrunk is the atom shrunk yet no do you think he's going to no not yet he's in the last episode spoiler alert of the flash or possibly arrow yes the arrow he puts on his suit he flies around the

city like Iron Man. It's not very The Atom, is it? You know what? For TV, it's a good suit. Okay, yeah. But no, it's not very The Atom. Yeah. But like you said, didn't the original Atom not shrink?

He was just like a little guy? Yeah, he didn't shrink, but he also didn't fly in a suit like Iron Man around Star City. That's a good point, actually. I mean, I haven't read it. I'll have to take your word for it. But the person who tweeted at us, us again whose name we can't recall sorry about that that does make a lot of sense when you think about it

yeah it does it's a very Blue Beetle kind of it's a Blue Beetle looking costume and the the whole

the way it works and what it can do and basically the entire concept of of the character in Arrow if you just took his name out and replaced it with Ted Kord,

you'd be like, well, that makes a lot more sense. I wonder why they weren't allowed to use it. Maybe because they were like, well, Marvel are doing Ant-Man. We want DC's Ant-Man, but we won't make him drink. Yeah, that's exactly, that's definitely the logic there. But yeah, because you'd go, well, Kord industry is, you know, it's a big high-tech firm. Yeah.

With a kind of a... Ray Palmer's got his own industry, doesn't he? But it's not like that. No, exactly. He's more a scientist. He's more just a scientist with a little lab for the most part. But yeah, Cord would be like, he's kind of a wacky guy, know charismatic but kind of odd kind of an oddball yeah who has a big firm set of abs yeah exactly yeah thank you and then and he's built a company

and blah blah blah and high tech and he's built the blue beetle suit and the bug ship and all that stuff so that good stuff makes a lot more sense yeah you've ruined it arrow you know but he's he's a good character i think i think I think in that, yeah. But anyway, so the team will be Adam, Firestorm, because people love the Firestorm guy. Which I liked him as well, or continue to. Captain Cold. Oh, he's a hero. Yeah, which would be interesting, because he was actually good as well. And this is a spoiler if you haven't been watching this season of Arrow, and you don't

want to know what happens, possibly. So jump forward like a minute. Blah, Black Canary, but the one who died. Oh, she's back. Yeah. Interesting. Sarah Lance is her name? Yes.

I think so, yeah. Because the other one's Laurel. Yeah, so that sounds all right. Yeah. Because any of those guys I feel like could potentially get their own spin-off. So it'd be nice to see some team-based kind of stuff or would it yeah

okay good great Dean Cain was cast in the Supergirl TV series yeah I guess so there's more news

actually I was going to say a TV team-up doesn't feel as impressive as a movie team-up definitely not like when the

Justice League all team up that'll be impressive if they ever if they get to that final movie they'll get there

basically they might not though TV like I like all those guys but i'm like it's fine it'll be fine yeah just another show we have to watch it's just just it's fine you can easily get them all in a room together yeah what else are they doing yeah yeah you're right mason but yeah supergirl news i don't know dean kane was cast i think the original supergirl was also cast and they're going to put superman in it they put a casting call out for a guy who's about Superman's height square jaw and whatever but they're not going to

show his face so the Superman looks like might be in it but then they also put out they mentioned that Hank Henshaw was going to be in it

who's robot Superman he's robot yeah replicant Superman sorry cyborg Superman replicant oh okay right there we go I see a skit

and um yeah so that'll be interesting I'd like to see him but you know what they probably want to do a proper Robert Superman no they'll do

like they did with Deathstroke Deathstroke? no who have they got in bloody Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D Deathlock

where he looks fine on the surface and then they you see him through a you see through him and he's got all the bits underneath

I don't think they'll even do... If they want to Hank Henshaw, I think it'll be pre-Cyborg Superman. Oh, okay. I think it'll just be... Because prior to him being that, he was just a guy who could sort of communicate with machines. Yeah.

So I think it'll be that. I can communicate with machines. Exactly. We can all do it. It's not impressive in the least. Yeah. Okay. There you go.

There's more news on that, but that's just off the top of my head. I can't really remember it. Okay, great. So take that whatever way you want. Or just don't. Don't accept it. I refuse to accept it.

Good news for the Aliens franchise, I believe. Oh, yes. Neil Blomkamp has said, it's been said that he's doing the new Alien. Sigourney Weaver is on board. She's keen. Yeah. Yeah. Sigourney Weaver is on board she's keen yeah yep no but I'm saying Sigourney Weaver has a massive track record

of being keen for something and then not Alien especially yeah being keen and then not keen I can understand that then they have to ride her out and then she's like

no actually I'm back in and they have to ride her back in yeah and then she's out again but if you look at Aliens 3 and 4 and everything that's come after that yep

I can understand why she'd be like oh yeah definitely yeah yeah like without the involvement of james cameron and or ridley scott of course he's gonna be and after alien three you know i mean and then fours anyway but speaking of that yes she's 65 by the way she still looks great yeah definitely work but he suggested it's been that this is going to be the sequel to aliens. Right. Cause you know, alien, basically,

if you haven't seen it, spoiler alert, I guess the start of alien three, it kills off Hicks, kills off Newt. It kills off the basic, the girl who the point of aliens is to save this girl. Basically.

Yeah, exactly. One of that and aliens. There's two points. Sure. And so that movie goes off in a whole different tangent. Sweet Arcturian Puntang. That's the, to save this girl basically yeah exactly one of that and aliens there's two points sure and so that movie goes off in a whole different tangent sweet arcturian poontang what's the and it was a big departure from the second one but there was a whole lot of other scripts i think i

want to make a video on it um for alien 3 there was one where there was a wood kind of reserve planet oh yeah uh there was one where Ripley wasn't in it much, and it was mostly a Hicks and Bishop movie. Okay. And the alien was like an airborne virus, or like a kind of mutant. When you say Hicks and Bishop, there was not a lot left of Bishop.

They put him back together. I was going to say, maybe they put him in a basket on the front of a bike. Okay, sure. And it's a little bit E.T. How about that? I thought you were going to go Empire Strikes Back, like C-3PO back of the... Oh, sure, yeah, in a basket bike. Okay, sure. And it's a little bit E.T. How about that? I thought you were going to go Empire Strikes Back,

like C-3PO back of the... Oh, sure, yeah, in a basket. Just bump, yeah. That would work too. So there was a few versions that didn't get made. The version... And that's why Alien 3 is such a mess

because it just went through so much whatever and the director wasn't happy with it and he took his name off it. It was David Fincher. Oh, yeah. And he's actually a good director, so... But anyway.

So, yeah. But then he actually a good director. So, but anyway. So, yeah. But then he also suggested that what he's doing is not undoing the three and four. But it'd have to. Because if it's set in that time period or it's set after Aliens, either you de-age and you end the movie with everybody getting frozen again. Yep. Or you have to write off three and four. Yeah, that's true. I mean, because you're right,

because technically you could set it between Aliens and Alien 3. Yeah. But you're right, they would have to de-age. Unfreeze them. They have an adventure. De-aged. And then refreeze them again. And then back in Alien 3 where two of them die.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that is a that is a bit of a pickle I think I think he's just trying to be nice about it

and not be like yeah you're probably right you're probably right it's going to be a case of because they're not I think 3 and 4 they're not all bad

there's some good moments sure yeah I think in like the green screen puppet Alien from Alien 3 that's great sure

that's super good the bit the basketball shot when she dunks the basketball no she throws it over her head yeah apparently one take that was real yeah yeah um no there is some good stuff but they're not they're not great and i wouldn't care if they go and again if you love those movies they still exist yeah you can be like well this is the timeline i believe yeah yeah the basketball dunk the basketball headshot there's a making of i think you can find it it's probably on the alien 4 dvd or you can get on youtube or whatever yeah but they haven't quite framed it 100 so it goes off screen it does kind of look like a fake shot

yeah but if you see like the the the uncorrected version she actually does make that yeah and apparently they had to cut away like after like a fraction of a second after she makes it because like literally everybody in the cast of the crew was like yeah like you know because she's beaten you know ron perlman you know at this you know she's she's beaten him up or whatever and then she's done you know she's just three-pointed the basketball or whatever but and he's supposed to be real mad or whatever but then she as soon as he hits it in she's like he's like perlman's like like we did it yeah absolutely yeah yeah but do you care if they write off those movies yeah no because that was that was the promise like initially was to alien 3 was supposed to continue the story and it just didn't really yeah yeah i'm totally happy with it just to push it aside push it aside get hicks back or you clone them all yeah no we did that yeah i'm totally happy with it just to push it aside push it aside get hicks back or you clone

them all yeah no we did that yeah i know but it's an it's a it's an option available sure technologically like okay sure in that universe so if you want to you can explain the aging where they come out of it and they've been in cryo sleep for so long that it does if you're in there long enough it will you will age i guess or it can just, yeah, they got unfrozen like 20 years ago and now this is where we're at. Yeah, yeah. What up? We've talked about this before, but there's a podcast called I Was There Too. Yeah.

And it's about the host sort of has chats to people who were, you know, on set during or for iconic movies and iconic movie scenes and stuff like that. But had like no hand in them really like there were extras or they could be extras or they could be you know they could be a smaller role they weren't they weren't necessarily the star of the film so there's one with uh rico ross uh who is one of the marines and aliens which marines rico i don't know which one that is okay that's all right that's one's one of them. It's really good. It's good fun. Track that down. There's, um... I'm trying to think.

That doesn't matter. Anyway, did you see the Power Rangers fan film? Boy, did I. 14 minutes, but it was a brisk 14 minutes. Very brisk, yeah. I thought it was excellent. SubZero from YouTube wants to know what we thought of it. That's Rico Ross.

Oh, I know him. Yeah, yeah. Sure. He's a very handsome man. Anyway, yes. Is he single? No, he's married sorry oh well yeah anyway sorry uh yeah what do you think of it i thought it was really great now power rangers was after my time me too and so well actually just i think i was like 10 but i was like but i had ninja turtles and i'd seen biker mice and whatever right i'm like i'm done with this I was

oh he was probably with Frost sorry but he was Rico Frost okay anyway sorry I keep digressing he's still married though right

yeah he's definitely still married yeah that's fine yeah so it was after my time and it was also like because I was that was angsty teen zone yeah and I think I remember being

a little bit angry at Power Rangers because it was essentially a Voltron rip-off but in so far as Voltron was a rip-off of everything like they're all of those you know

Technicolor 5 unit teams that form a giant robot they're all exactly the same they're all derivative of something I don't know what that thing is but yeah same I was also know what that thing is. I don't know what that thing is. No, you're right. But yeah, same. I was also angry about that. And I was like, this is incredibly cheesy and whatever.

But like, the original Ninja Turtles cartoon is terrible. I think the first two episodes are pretty good. Because they're like the pitch episodes. Yes. And then it just devolves into nonsense. And are you still looking for Rico Frost? I had a fun fact, but I can't find it. Anyway, it's not the point.

But yeah, so this was obviously a real gritty reboot. And I don't always love a gritty reboot. But yeah, I really, really enjoyed it. KB Sackhoff was great. Van Der Beek was great in it. I didn't realise who he was. I had to look it up. But he's the second Red Ranger.

Ah, yeah. Yeah, that's true. It makes a lot of sense. great in it I didn't realise who he was I had to look it up but he's the second Red Ranger oh yeah yeah which makes a lot of sense it was look the effects were great I mean there was

some CGI muzzle flash which I hate I do but you know everybody worked for free on this and whatever so yeah

the same guy did this did the Punisher short film with Thomas Jane that makes a lot of sense he also directed

the Muse Knights of Sardonia video clip I don't know that one well if you watch that it'll make a lot of sense yeah he also directed the muse knights of sodonia video clip i don't know that one well if you watch that it'll make a lot of sense you'd be like of course it's a little bit yeah good but yeah the effects were great yeah he didn't throw in every reference to every no like there was no what's the name of the robot uh alpha no no the guy's like danger that one yeah no zordon we didn't get any of that like they didn't they didn't throw it all in there but we got just enough of a taste of this world yeah and it was kind of it was interesting you know that the power rangers had disbanded yeah and

you know i guess the megazords or whatever have been destroyed yeah and p.s if you haven't watched this you should watch it it's on yeah absolutely it's on YouTube it was on Vimeo it got taken down it got taken down because of some copyright claim Saban Saban is it

Saban yeah I don't know what they're called yeah they are I think it's because Saban are going to release they are doing a movie

their own Power Rangers but it's going to be it's going to be Power Rangers it's going to be more like the original yeah which is fine

yeah yeah but I think that coming out and kind of shutting it down, I don't think that's the right way to do it. They could have been like, we really appreciate it. It's not really the direction we're going to take the movie, but this is great. Yeah, totally. Because it was great.

And I don't even like Power Rangers. No, neither do I. Exactly, yeah. We got a glimpse of like robot versus robot kind of thing. We got kind of a little taste of how everything fell apart yeah is the was the machine colony thing is that original i think it was a villain in oh it was back in the day possibly i don't know because there's so many seasons it's still going yeah that's true yeah we got balkan skull yeah it's the betrayers of the human race

yeah yeah that's um we got good we got great effects we were great martial arts yeah i enjoyed the fact that they i don't know why this is a little bit i enjoyed the fact that they all kept their their powers and their like their suits and stuff even though they didn't have the megazords yeah that was kind of fun that was cool yeah yeah it was good fun and you know one of them was just a drunk one was just a drunk one was like still being thrown into dangerous situations because he was like an adrenaline junkie kind of thing yeah

was that the same guy maybe I don't know it's pretty good it was a breezy 14 minutes I tell you what yeah

I should definitely go back and watch it but I don't know with copyright do you think that comes under I mean they're using the Power Rangers brand

but do you think they have the right to take that down well it's weird about the way fan films work. Yeah. Because I know Star Wars, for example, you can make anything Star Wars.

Yeah, they love it. Because they're like, this is free promotion for us. Yeah. Because if it's good, people go, oh, I love Star Wars again. I'm going to watch some more Star Wars. I'm going to buy the lunchbox or whatever. But if it's rubbish, they go, you know what's better?

This isn't my Star Wars. Yeah, I'll go and watch Star Wars. I'll cleanse my palate by buying some more star wars yeah yeah absolutely but yeah with fan films i guess because it is because it's an actual hollywood director yeah it's got actual hollywood people in it sure yeah but he's not making as far as i know he's not making any profit on it like he paid again everybody worked for free or close to free i think the actors weren't worked for free and maybe the crew yeah or whatever but i don't know the director paid for it all out of his own pocket

kind of thing yeah i think that's i think it is totally like legally it's totally legit yeah but if you know if you've got the saban corporation breathing down your neck you have billions of dollars from you know 100 seasons of power rangers or whatever then it's just harder to fight that yeah but he's not taking it down yeah good so you know he's gonna see them in court yeah nice which would be good i guess yeah but that's the thing though it's out there now any you can get it yeah there's no it's like it's done it's like taking pee out of a pool yeah exactly yeah you're gonna empty the pool i'm saying that they have to break the internet to break the internet yeah get all that pee out.

Yeah. But I also like that how it was like we were just kids and we got thrown into this galactic war. Yeah, that's pretty messed up. Yeah, they sort of addressed the issue of why do they keep giving giant dinosaur robots to children? What's going on there? Yeah, that's a good point.

Yeah. One more piece of news, Mason. I'm ready you found your Rico fact nope nope do you remember

what it was in reference to he's got a like the type of gun that he has maybe see the one with the gun that's around his waist okay here it is his chest

like in the film his chest plays yeah like he's engraved it with a knife yeah and it says Heath yeah

and it's always sorry Heath yeah and it's always sorry nothing yeah and it's always been like this sort of issue of like like is that his love is that someone called Heath

and apparently what happened is when they because you know the armour is supposed to be lived in kind of thing so when the actors were thrown into the thrown into the crew or whatever they were all issued with the crew or whatever they were

all issued with this battle arm and i'm like you can do anything you want with it you can add patches you can add you know do this whatever he's like i'll carve my wife's name heather into the into the armor and he gets to the last age and he's like i don't have enough room so it's just heath that's pretty great yeah so so it's been he's like he the movie's been like oh it's so progressive he's got a this guy's his great love's heath and it's like no it's been, he's like, the movie's been like, oh, it's so progressive. He's got a, this guy, he's great loves Heath. And it's like, no, it was Heather who just ran out of room. That's pretty great. Fact.

But he is married. Yeah, he's definitely married. You've got no chance with him. I'm sorry. All right. Danny Elfman is said to provide. Do the news while I do some Danny Elfman score. Do the news while I do some Danny Elfman score.

He's going to provide some additional score to the Avengers Age of Ultron. Look out, it's Ultron. Who do they normally get? I don't know. Some randoms? Yeah. But we just got a letter from a guy today whose dream is to be a Marvel composer guyeteer puppeteer you're making the motions of a puppeteer yes like a marionette man yeah but anyway we'll get to that later yeah so if danny but if danny elfman does this he did the original

trilogy spider-man score so people are saying get me pictures of spider-man so they say well if he's in it then then could this mean that they're doing a spider-man post-credits scene and he's doing the theme that's the thinking hey guys i'm here to help you out i'm spider-man do you think they could go with the Sam Raimi score? Because that one- I just throw it in there. That one I remember. I don't remember the Amazing Spider-Man score. Not at all, no.

Yeah. I'm sure it's fine. Yeah. Could they use that? Hypothetically? Or realistically? Yeah. They'd have to negotiate it for it, probably.

Yeah. Probably. Probably. Yeah. Well, because if Sony and Marvel are turning up, they could just be like, you can have that. Yeah. What are we going to do with it? Yeah, you're right.

Exactly. Or would you rather see a new score? Because I know Hans Zimmer is doing the new Batman score and he did the Dark Knight Batman score, so he's going to do a new... Yeah, how many more variations on... Do you really... Can we really have, ultimately?

I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. But don't know but I mean John Williams was in Duel of at no point am I like jeez I'm sick of this John Williams

he's a good indie he's literally the best film the best thing about you know the Star Wars yeah prequels right

yep the trailer's good we talked about this yeah it's a really good trailer solid trailer oh so good very good ha ha

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha anyway yeah but even like he did Jewel of Fates for episode 3 It's so good. Very good. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha. Anyway. But even like he did Jewel of Fates for episode three, which is the Anakin Obi-Wan score. And that's really good also. And it's got a bit of ha ha in it as well. Blends it in.

It's good. But yeah. Got a letter here from R.L. Smith. What if Danny Elfman did the Star Wars music? Oh, there's the Family Guy joke on that. Never mind. Is there? Yeah.

Oh, they get... It's in the... John Williams' orchestra is killed and then they just replace him with Danny Elfman. Yeah. Way to go, Mason. No problem. R.L. Smith. The Spider-Man reveal.

I was talking about... R.L. Smith's a great name. It is, isn't it? Great name for an author. Yeah. R.L. Stein. No, I get it. R.L. Smith. They're similar it is isn't it great name for an author yeah R.L. Stine no I get it R.L. Smith

they're similar aren't they do you guys think it would be a good idea to keep the actor portraying Spider-Man as a secret until they release Civil War we think this could provide

a sense of mystery and anticipation as in the comic when Spider-Man revealed himself to be Peter Parker I think if they're going to put him in it

yep I think they might not reveal who the actor is they're going to stand in they don't need to cast him yet they don't need to rush it yeah but I don't think that would be a weird narrative note if the reveal in the film is who the actor is

yeah like if you take the mask off oh in Civil War you're talking about yeah if you take the mask off and it's Andrew Garfield or whatever people will be like is that the reveal what's the

or if it's a new guy like it doesn't matter if it's a new actor you'll be like is that is that relevant have we seen him in another Marvel movie

before that would probably be the only one like if he was in another Marvel movie in a different role yeah and then it's revealed

and you'd be like oh it's that guy who was in the background of that scene in the other that would be cool but what are the odds of that like oh we've got a

we've got a featured extra from Avengers 1 but it turns out he's a good enough actor to be Spider-Man in a multi-billion dollar franchise well remember that Roshan Fegan

you talked about as he was in Spider-Man 2. It's the bit where Tobey Maguire gets his motorbike plowed by a cop car or whatever. Oh, yeah. Or a criminal. And he does the somersault. One of the kids is like, how did you do that?

And he's like, I ate all my vegetables or whatever. One of those kids is... I stayed at school, I didn't do drugs. I kept my TV watching to less than an hour a night so yeah but

what I'm saying for Civil War I'm saying you could put him in the post credit scene and you wouldn't have to reveal who it is

yeah true you'd just be like whatevs anyway but listen Mason speaking of Spider-Man I have one more piece of news

no you don't no I do who else died J.K. Simmons won an Oscar he did for Whipple Ash yeah that was pretty good Whipple Ash so now he'll never be on the show no Speaking of Spider-Man. I have one more piece of news. No, you don't. No, I do. Who else died? J.K. Simmons won an Oscar. He did. For Whipple Ash. Yeah, that's pretty good. Whipple Ash.

So now he'll never be on the show. No. It's too good for us. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who else won Oscars? Who cares?

It's always everybody, you know, it's always the best movie won or the worst movie won or nobody's ever happy. No. Yeah. Who cares? But also it was Birdman, so why haven't you watched it? No, I can't remember. Why haven't you seen Birdman yet?

I'll get there. I'm a busy man. Yeah. You haven't even seen Big Fish, Tim Burton's Big Fish. No, I've seen Big Fish. I think we saw that together. Yeah, he's a big liar. What a crap film.

It was so good, wasn't it? You're always telling lies. I love how... Oh, it turned out all the lies were true. But they weren't true. They weren't true. They were sort of true. At the end, he got...

There were elements of... Oh, it turns out there's actually elements of truth to what you were saying. That's not the truth. And also, he told his son to be his last story would be that I took my dad down to the water and he turned into a big fish. That's bullshit. It's true. Also,

is that what he's going to go tell his relatives? Yeah, your grandpa turned into a big fish so I bloody let him go. He's a fish. What? He's saying he's dead and you rolled him into the ocean? That's weird. You know, it is a good movie, though. Little Fish with Cate Blanchett. It's incredibly depressing. Is that a crime film? No, it's like drugs and stuff. It's very good. But anyway. Drugs are criminal? Yeah, but it's not a crime film as such. It's more about addiction. I watched the first five minutes once. Yeah, it's good. It's not a crime film as such. Ah, right, okay, right. It's more about addiction. I watched the first five minutes once.

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Okay, best trilogies, Mason, speaking of Spider-Man. That's sunrisechallenge.ca separate best trilogies where Back to the Future will win. Oh, yeah. Okay, sure. Maybe. I don't know. Daughters of the Third One, let it down. Three's not great, is it? But you know what? People also love the Look Who's Talking trilogy. Well, that covers all our bases. That was based on a comic book.

The thing about Back to the Future, oh, someone also wrote in and said you should do one on the date of the, you know, the future date of Back to the Future 2. Oh, yeah. Which is this year. It's like October something. October 21st. Yep. Yeah. Thank you, that guy.

We're really good at getting people's names. What we should do is we should do it every second month. Oh, yeah. Like Facebook does. Yeah, like Facebook does. Oh, that's the worst. You know what the thing about Back to the Future is, though? Yes.

You take out that love story from three and it's fine. It works. Oh, okay. The love story slows that down. But if there's no love story, why is he there in the first place why is Doc Brown there in the first place because he got

struck by fucking lightning and shot through time oh yeah you idiot oh oh you haven't seen Back to the Future 2

where that happens though I didn't see 2 I saw 1 and 3 oh yeah and then I saw 2 hmm yeah they're really good

those movies yeah they are yeah make no sense anyway well what do we say you know what you know when people are on the internet are like oh it's here's something that you bloody you never noticed about Back to the Future and it's changed your whole perception of that Back to the Future this is the mall was called Twin Pines Mall they drove over one of the pines and then it comes back to the future and it's low pine balls.

That changes your whole, what a bloody, what a revelation. Yeah, we know. That's the point. It's supposed to be obvious. They obviously run over one of the, ah, internet, the people on the internet. Am I right? Yeah, exactly. I also get people yelling about how

that bulletproof vest couldn't stop an ak-47 right sure i probably couldn't yeah it doesn't matter the movies man yeah probably delorean couldn't travel through time that we know about oh yeah it's it's interesting where people's suspension of disbelief yeah i know right yeah also you'd probably notice if somebody's wearing an oven door under their clothes. Clint Eastwood did it in fistful of dollars or a few dollars more on one of those. Oh, yeah. That's a trilogy. Oh, yeah.

I've seen some of them. They're good. They're pretty good, yeah. Yeah. He's really good, isn't he, Clint Eastwood? For a crazy man. I mean, less these days. I think the turning point was when he started...

Talking to that invisible chair? Yeah, talking toama in a chair yeah invisible obama yeah that was probably like politics aside that was crazy yeah crazy do you think if you got jack polance and what's his name clint eastwood and they were both old yes so they're both 85 yeah who wins that fight oh a punching fight i think jack polance he's very dead right yeah if he was alive jack palance could do a one armed push i know he did at the oscars yeah well the people's choice awards is on golden gloves it doesn't matter mtv movie awards ah okay so the same age same age and jack palance has just

come off city slickers too so he's not happy i reckon it's palance i reckon clint eastwood has been the tough guy for so long that nobody challenges him. Like Stallone. Because I reckon I could beat up Stallone. And I'd like to. I know of your intense dislike for Sylvester Stallone. But I think, like, you know, you'll hear about a really big guy who's never been in a fight. Because he's so big that people will be like, oh, he's probably a killer.

I'll never challenge him or whatever. I reckon that's Eastwood. Like, I reckon he's, yeah, I reckon people will be like, well, that's probably a killer. I'll never challenge him or whatever. I reckon that's Eastwood. Like, I reckon he's... Yeah, I reckon people will be like, well, that guy's a killer. I better not. He's got steely eyes of resolve. He looks like a weathered old oak. Yeah.

Just gets harder with... Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah, like you swing an axe into him and it just bounces off. Yeah. Okay, so at each end of the... They're both at each end of the football field. Yes. Our preferable way to combat.

They very slowly... Charge at each other....charge at each otherable very slowly charging each other towards each other like a couple of just worn out old bison uh i think it's palance yeah i agree yeah i reckon it's maybe even just one real solid punch yeah one real lap one real solid sock to the jaw yeah i think they both may be served as well i might be wrong anyway spider-man trilogy we're just gonna go through whatever like he's gonna say some stuff sure uh why don't we start with spider-man because that's probably the most famous probably not actually no probably one of the first most famous how about that yeah man maybe not doesn't matter no because the x-men one doesn't matter it's a

bloody trilogy of movies isn't it absolutely it's a bloody trilogy of movies, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely it's a bloody trilogy, mate. You notoriously love these movies. Wait a second. I still, I made a video earlier this week about something. Uh-huh. I'm listening. Terrible moments in good comic book movies. Oh, yes. And I mentioned Spider-Man 2 in it, but I say, I still maintain that Spider-Man 2 is the best Spider-Man movie.

Even if... No, you're right. I will not disagree. I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's still the best one like it's got the best story it's got the best villain it's got

even though it doesn't make sense because he's a regular man he shouldn't be able to take a punch from Spider-Man

it's not the point I don't know I think it's Tobey Maguire's best performance I feel like I don't know

I think they get Peter Parker the most right in that they don't get the width of Spider-Man very right. They never got it right.

They never got it right. And even with Garfield, he's too... He's witty all the time. So it doesn't... I don't think that... I think Garfield is good. I thought you were going to say Garfield. I thought you meant Garfield is witty all the time.

He is witty all the time. Yeah. Yeah, except on Mondays. Yeah, it does. He's just grouchy. Don't cross him. But, yeah. That movie, like a lot of these,

that trilogy, look at it. And people in hindsight are like, that wasn't very good or whatever, but no, this wasn't being done there. Not well. And this was the best until three.

These, those were the pinnacle of superhero movies. One and two. As we talk about these trilogies, are we ever going to find that the third one is the best one? Looking through this? No. Great.

No. We'll assess that on an individual basis. Oh, yeah, sure. But that's the thing. Every trilogy except, you know, Lord of the Rings and Toy Story, they don't... I don't know whether it's enthusiasm for the franchise. Sometimes it's a it's a

it's a factor of a different director that comes in and finishes off the trilogy or whatever in this case it was obviously studio interference

right completely screwed Spider-Man and has continued to screw Spider-Man until hopefully now what were the other storyline options

for Spider-Man 3 I think that oh what what they were-Man 3? I think that... Oh, what they were going to do. I think originally he just wanted to do Sandman, which I think would have worked. Would have made more sense. Because I think... And it would have been... That's an interesting...

He's an interesting villain because Dafoe is a genius psychopath who matches him in strength and he's a friend of his or whatever. Doc Ock's great because he's sympathetic and whatever, but he's also a genius. And Sandman is a victim of circumstance who's not particularly intelligent. He's a victim of circumstance like Spider-Man is. Yeah, exactly.

And he just wants to help his daughter. And I think he's well cast and he's good, but he's barely in it. So, I don't know. I think, and I've said this before as well, when Venom, when they say, oh, we're putting Venom in this as well, I was like, great, because before as well when Venom when they say oh we're putting Venom in this as well

I was like great because I want to see Venom yeah yeah but that was a massive mistake terrible and Sam Raimi even had said prior

I don't want to do Venom and they clearly made him do it and they shouldn't have made him do it because he clearly has no love for that character

exactly yeah you know and Venom needs his own movie like you need to do the black suit you could have done black suit

Spider-Man 3 yeah yeah and then make the next one as a Venom needs his own movie like you need to do the black suit you could have done black suit Spider-Man 3 and then make the next one is a Venom movie you do know though you've got strong opinions I do have strong opinions and you know it also ends with Mary Jane being tied to something and Spider-Man has to save her which is how all the other ones end yes it is

but no we should look at the good parts of this trilogy oh yes did you like it at the time or were you like get it out of my face get it out of here that's what it's you that is my review my review system new york style yeah as soon as i figure out my opinion in the cinema i just continually yell that every five minutes until my opinion changes get it out of here and then if i enjoy the next five minutes i remain silent yeah and if i don't enjoy the five minutes until my opinion changes get it out of here and then if i enjoy the next five minutes i remain silent yeah and if i don't enjoy the five minutes after that get it out of here yeah did you like it at the time i think i was excited to see the characters on screen but they

didn't it didn't blow me away oh really the first one yeah the first one especially and I think it still had yeah I really felt that they were too earnest yeah especially the part in the first one where you know Spider-Man's about to be

killed by a green goblin or whatever and then all the citizens of New York team up to distract him or whatever like hey we're from New York

you messed with one of us you messed with all of us get it out of here yeah exactly and I think it took till like Iron Man to be like you mess with one of us you mess with all of us get it out of here yeah exactly and I think it took till like Iron Man

to be like stop it stop it this is kind of yeah this is you know this is kind of silly but we're we're rolling with it anyway

kind of thing yeah I mean that was like post 9-11 and yeah there was a whole lot of reasons that you know

I think they included that well actually the first trailer for this was Twin Towers I remember that yeah remember well actually the first trailer for this was Twin Towers I remember that remember and had the web that catches the helicopter that was gonna be

a scene? yeah it was gonna be at the end of the first one oh okay like once he's he was a I don't know why they chose to reveal this

in the first trailer yeah but I think that's what they did for Amazing Spider-Man 2 the last shot yeah so apparently

they were going to you know he'd defeat the Green Goblin or whatever. And then the final scene was like, he's established in New York City. Yeah. He's fighting crime now. Yeah. So if you're going to do some sort of high-tech helicopter bank robbery escape thing, you're not going to get away with it because Spider-Man's going to be there. That's pretty cool.

But then they had to, you know, cut the whole thing out. Yeah. But that trailer was great. Look, there was some excellent action sequences. Two, I think you're right. Two had the best. Yeah. Two had the best of everything it had.

That train scene is amazing. The train scene, the moment. The best, I think, moment between Peter Parker and Mary Jane is when they're having the conversation in the cafe. Yeah. And he has to tell her that he doesn't love her in order to spare her from, you know, the danger of his superhero life. And then the car is, the taxi's hurled through the window.

That's the trailer for that as well. Yeah, exactly. And that's great. That blew my mind. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, I actually watched that scene the other day just because I included that scene in the video that I did. It holds up so well.

There's still a lot of that. There's a lot of CGI Doc Ock in it where you see him up close and it doesn't hold up like at all. But it's still... Because they're like, hey, Alfred Molina, you want to hang on the side of this subway railing 100 feet in the air? No. I'm not very fit. You can tell that.

I mean, I can certainly take a super powered punch, but I'm not fit in other ways. Yeah. But he's... I mean, like a lot of that movie doesn't make sense. Like the chip that the arms take over and whatever. And he's trying to make a miniature sun for no reason. Yeah, I mean, like a lot of that movie doesn't make sense. Like the chip that the arms take over and whatever. And he's trying to make a miniature sun for no reason. Yeah, I remember that. For energy.

Sure, yeah. And James Franco never really put in a great performance in those movies either, I would say. I feel like he kind of half-assed it. That was kind of his thing for quite a while. He does that now if he doesn't want to do something. Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? And nobody's ever... Like, people on the internet

have called him on it but nobody in the movie industry is like, hey, we're going to hire you for this. Yeah. If you think it's dumb, just don't do it.

Yeah. Because if we see you half-arsing this... Planet of the Apes. Planet... If we see you half-arsing this... Oscars. Yeah.

With Tan Hathaway, yeah. If we see you doing this, we're gonna dump you. Like if you're gonna do this clearly so you can do a riff on it in your next Jonah Hill film. Like do a kind of a fun parody of it. We don't care for it. We're gonna kick you off this. Like nobody says that.

So he's done like eight movies where he just phoned it in. And then he does this is the end where he makes, there's a green goblin cardboard cut out in his basement and they get in front of it or yeah exactly yeah but he's the most animated he is is in those seth rogan movies yeah exactly like pineapple express that end of the world one and the last one the interview yeah because i was going to say when you mentioned yeah he's you know he's he's not doing well in these but yeah he is incredibly animated in those he's clearly doing well in these but yeah he is incredibly animated in those he's clearly having

the most fun but I guess they don't I guess he just comes onto those because it's his buddies I guess that's not like that's the Freaks and Geeks crew

yeah yeah and kind of he doesn't and I enjoy those movies as well yeah totally saying that yeah but yeah that's

I guess they're like look we're just going to goof around for a few weeks and film this but there's no money involved yeah

so then he's having fun I'd like to get into this more but I feel like we should do a Spider-Man episode on the movies should we have done that already I think we almost

definitely have how about we do an episode where it's James Franco did he phone it in or not and we just go through each of these movies and we go

yep no yep no yeah but overall I think there's still a pretty great achievement. We could have a phoninometer. A phoninometer.

Do I have to build something? Yeah. Okay. I mean, we won't say it on the podcast, but... It's important, though, isn't it? Yeah, this. Oh, you phoned it in. Yeah, I think a lot of what Marvel is now,

the success of the MCU, is built off the back of this, and these really tested the grounds for... Because X-Men was very dark, and I liked the X of the MCU, is built off the back of this. And these really tested the grounds for. Because X-Men was very dark. And I liked the X-Men movies, the first two. Well, they're a trilogy, aren't they? Maybe we can talk about that in a minute. But they're very vibrant. And it's a very comic book world.

And as we've said, J. Jonah Jameson is amazing. And everybody, I think, is well cast in that except James Franco, Topher Grace. A lot of people don't like Mary Jane Watson, Kirsten Dunst. I kind of feel she James Franco'd it a little bit in the second couple. Like, I think she was phoning it in by two, I think. Yeah. Yeah. I think Gyllenhaal would have been better.

Yeah. As Mary Jane Parker. Definitely. But he was, as mentioned, Tobey Maguire did a back injury between one and two and he was maybe not going to do it. And so they cast Jake Gyllenhaal. They were like, Gyllenhaal's in.

Oh, wow. And he went, no, wait, I changed my mind. No, wait, I was just faking this back injury. I just wanted to see what you'd do. Yeah. But nah, anyway. Yeah, I think, what's her name again? Anne Hathaway.

No, the other one. Jake Gyllenhaal. No, Mary Jane. Mary Jane Watson. Yes. Kirsten Dunst. Kirst name again? Anne Hathaway. No, the other one. Jake Gyllenhaal. No. Mary Jane Watson. Yes. Kirsten Dunst. Kirsten Dunst. Kristen Ritter.

Thank you. Kirsten Dunst. Yeah, she was very kind of... Like, she seemed super enthusiastic in the first one. And kind of like this kind of vivacious kind of character. And then... And I don't know if it was a function of her, again, her phoning it in or the scripts not turning sort of into incredible downers

but by two and three she was just like there was just a lot of her standing at grave sites you know I've mentioned this before on the podcast but I do think it's true is that with especially the first those the the Tug of War Spider-Man

they did just go okay well Spider-Man's had all these tragic things happen to him. Let's put them all in the films. Failing to point out that Spider-Man has been around for 40 odd years. Yeah. And all these things have happened to him over that period of time. They've been very spread out. And for the vast majority of his career,

he's just like this, like he's a happy-go-lucky fun guy. Yeah. And sometimes he can't pay the rent or whatever. And that's, that's his dilemma. Yeah. But very occasionally,

you know, his parents come back from the dead and it turns out they're robots. Or, but more, more accurately. Like his aunt gets put in the hospital. Yeah,

his aunt goes to the hospital. Mary Jane breaks up with him. Mary Jane breaks up with him. He can't deliver a pizza New York style. He can't deliver the pizza New York style. He's going to get evicted or whatever. And they've just packed them all in. Yeah.

Into these three, into six hours or whatever. Yeah. It just makes for a very kind of melancholy films trilogy, I think. I think three is the only one though

of this whole movie, all the Spider-Man movies that doesn't have a funeral in it or doesn't end in a funeral. See, I could have sworn it did.

Well, who dies in it though? I mean, my enthusiasm for the trilogy. But that died. Died at the end of two, really. You know what? I know people hate the dance of year three, right? Oh, sure. I'll come back around.

It doesn't make sense. Or it does. But I saw a video. I can't remember who. It might have been MovieBob. Where he said that that makes sense when you look at it as there's an alien symbiote attached to Peter Parker, right? Who has no knowledge of the human world.

Peter Parker does not know how to be cool. So that's both of their interpretation of this is what being cool is. Yeah, yeah. And I guess it's dumb, but I'm okay with that until the bit where he punches Kirsten Dunst in the face. Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't know.

Not even that jazz scene? Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't know. Not even that jazz scene? Yeah, does he play the piano or something? Yeah. Can he play the piano? I guess he can. The spider senses, I don't know. Oh, he's probably the spider senses.

Because he'd play a note, because he's real fast, he'd play a note, and then he'd be like, goes to play a series of other notes, and his spider sense would tell him which is the dangerous note to play, which is, say, the one that isn't incredible. Do you mean artistically? Yeah, artistically dangerous. But then he'd probably play that note, because that's jazz, baby. Yeah, yeah, it is. It's jazz.

It's not about what you play also, it's what you don't play. I mean, it's mostly about what you do play. Sure. Because that's noise. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Maybe. But I think

you probably you probably spider sense is how you play the piano there sure we gotta move on from this

okay uh Ninja Turtles we did an episode on this oh yes there was a Ninja Turtles trilogy of live action

movies boy is there but there's also a fourth one which was the CGI one which technically is in this world

is it yeah they've got there's a bit where you see their shelf the one with Patrick Stewart

in it yeah you see their shelf of he's the only live action character you see their shelf and they've got there's a bit where you see their shelf with patrick stewart in it yeah you see their shelf of he's the only live action character you see their shelf and they've got like the time traveling stick oh yeah helmet and stuff yeah and the ooze and whatever um that's another one where that starts off well i i still think two is okay right yeah it's it's not, obviously. But that third one is what? I think I established it.

I didn't say the third one. Yeah. It's unwatchable. And I'm not just saying that. Like, it's not even... It's not so bad. Two is so bad, it's good. Yep.

Three is... It's got vanilla ice in it. It's got vanilla ice in it. There's some news. Wasn't Vanilla Ice recently arrested? For what? Grand theft or something. Oh, great.

Yeah. I think because he... You know how he does that thing where he renovates houses now? Yeah. He flips them. He's got a TV series or something. House flip. House flip. Yeah.

I think he stole some. He didn't, I don't think, allegedly. I think. Yeah. I think. No, you're saying it. You can say it. Yeah, I'm sorry.

I can think I can say it. I don't want to podcast. This is the Wild West, man. I do what I want. But I think he was, he moved some stuff out of one house and put it in another house or something like that. And then we're like, oh, he stole all the whatevers. Okay, sure. So he's guilty. Good guilty good great yeah yeah you know what he seems

okay as a guy yeah he does i don't know anything about him yeah yeah i've i've met someone who met him was like and spent some time with him like yeah he's a good dude so you know i don't know whether that's true we may not be who cares yeah but ninja turtles though that that's clearly a case of they just want these to appeal to kids. But in doing so, they've alienated everybody. Right, right, right. Including kids. Yeah.

Because even when I was a kid when that third one came out, I'm like, no, this is... I didn't see it for years. Hmm. Because... A couple of you didn't see it for years. That's you. What do you mean that's me? That's what you're saying.

About myself? Yeah. Okay. But do you have any's me? That's what you say. About myself? Yeah. Okay. But do you have any love for these movies? I kind of want to go back and watch the first one. One is pretty much beat for beat, the original comic. Yes, it is, isn't it? And it's good.

I still think it's good. The suit's still kind of... It still works. It's not amazing. Yeah. But aesthetically. But the suits were amazing for the time and they still work. There's a lot of really cool kind of acrobatics, especially when you consider a lot of these guys you couldn't see half the time.

Right, yeah. I think they could see through the mouth. So, yeah. Interesting fact, Kino, you know Kino from Part 2? He was their helper who joins the Foot Clan undercover. Oh, yeah, Kino. I think it was Donatello in the first one. Oh, right.

And they liked him so much they brought him back as keno yeah and keno was good but they also they don't use their weapons in the second one i don't know if you're aware of that that's interesting yeah because they had to get it up there's a bit where michelangelo's got oh yeah we've talked about this like they they hold them out right but they don't like hit anybody i think donatello might use his But imagine Raphael's Got his Like he just gets in Stabs someone through the face

Like that's over But one's great There's a bit where A foot soldier gets Hits an axe Into an electrical box Remember that Yeah yeah

And dies And the shot burns down And they beat the shit Out of Raphael Yeah I remember that They beat him unconscious And he's out for like weeks Yeah

Yeah It's pretty good It's great stuff Coreyeldman what's he in that donatello oh voice off okay voice off wow yeah that was right in my wheelhouse when that came out yeah this one oh yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna bloody watch it at some point and if you watch the new one no it's okay you keep saying that to us i'm not saying go and see it but people overreact it didn't ruin it hasn't ruined your childhood. It did, but it's fine. I don't know what everyone's... It's not great.

Right. They do a magic blood plot, which is it every week. Oh, yeah, sure, yeah. But it's... And the design, I don't love and whatever. Can the Ninja Turtles' blood heal all diseases? Something like that. I can't remember.

And the end is exactly like The Amazing Spider-Man. Like a big tower falls and... Oh, yeah. I don't know. But it's... It's fine. Anyway, that's enough about Ninja Turtles. We did an episode on that.

X-Men trilogy. Oh, yes. Again, a case of the third one not being that good. Possible. Yeah. Would you say these are the first good comic book movies? Or would you regulate that to Blade? Hang on. Which came first? blade uh hang on which came first blade came first like i'm like 97 or something like that well blade was such a departure from the

original blade yeah that i don't know it just strikes me as it's just a action film yeah it's because in the marvel universe there are vampires but they're not everywhere yeah true and yeah it's because in the Marvel Universe there are vampires but they're not everywhere yeah true and then it's not well I guess because it's

they're not the only thing yeah exactly and Blade in the comic books was he was in this kind of super vampire human hybrid

kind of ninja high tech weapon guy what was he at that time well he was British to start off with so that's like Constantine yeah exactly like Constantine time? Well, he was British to start off with. So that's... Like Constantine. Yeah, exactly like Constantine.

The TV show. And he was more... Like, his power was more like he couldn't be turned by a... You know, he couldn't be turned into a vampire. But, so, that was all his powers. Pretty much. Was he a vampire? No.

He was a man-pire. I remember him being... I think he was... Are you sure about that? I mean, I don't know. He was... If I recall correctly, and I'm going to look it up just for the sake of just having a bit of fun.

Sure. But I recall him... I think his mother was attacked by Deacon Frost while she was pregnant with him. That was in the movie as well. Yeah, but he didn't have super vampire powers. Okay, sure. Yeah. Bloody Deacon Frost, eh?

Yeah, I know, right? He's really got it. Yeah. Yeah. I remember liking it at the time. Yes. I haven't seen it recently. Two.

I also actually included that in the video I did. Done. Two's pretty good because that's the Gimermo. Yeah, it's Gimermo. People make fun of me when I can't pronounce his name. No, it's Gimermo. You're right. Yeah.

Two's good. Three is garbage for reasons. Okay, so here's his powers. Okay. He's got a prolonged lifespan. he doesn't really count uh where are we he can sense supernatural creatures cool and he's immune to becoming a vampire so spider-man comes in and plays the piano he knows how he's doing that no because spider-man's powers are psychic i didn't even realize what yeah that one is though how do you mean? Spider-Man powers a psychic. No, his danger sense is psychic.

Yeah, but what about the rest of him? Can you sense the rest of him? Like his speed and stuff? No, he's not supernatural. Oh, supernatural. Sorry, I misheard you. Yeah, yeah. I thought you said spider powers.

Right, right, right. But anyway, so Blade doesn't... Should we talk about the X-Men? Let's go back to Blade. Okay, whatever. Let's combine the two. Whatever. Here we go go what if they were the bloody team up

what if what if no because yeah so he basically had those powers but then when Blade the film became popular

as often as they do often they changed they altered the character in the comic book so it was more like the movie version so he got bitten by Morbius

who's not a real vampire either he's the living vampire and sometimes he's a good guy yeah he's mostly a good guy yeah but he's like but isn't he also a Spider-Man villain

or he started as a Spider-Man villain yes he's sort of a scientific he was a scientifically created vampire yeah but anyway he bit Blade and then Blade got all the powers

that he has in the movies sweet yeah good right he'd go oh my god just like that movie version of Blade yeah he did say that yeah

just like that movie I watched yeah people are saying Morbius in a Spider-Man movie as well that'd be cool yeah yes sir just put a vampire in whatever

yeah who cares bloody Marvel Universe is rife with them yeah well not really there's some of them

there's some of them there's definitely some of them do you want to see the zombie universe I'd do a little bit they won't do it no they wouldn't no they can't

they'd never do that because it's they no they can't because they'd never do that because it's way too deep and it's people would be like what yeah it's it's too deep a cut like it's kind of a cult niche thing what was that one that you gave me about that android who went into the zombie dimension and killed everybody oh that's marvel zombies yeah that was great with machine man yeah uh-huh that's pretty good yeah um but they never do that because in like that would in order to do that they'd have to build the universe

multiverse they'd have to build the multiverse for like a couple of decades a cinematic one but they would never do that because then there'd be more kids

and they just need to do a series of reboots so it'd be a series of reboots before anything else that's how it works that's fair enough but yeah Blade 3 though is...

They might do an animated version. Yeah, sure. Or like a... If they built a multiverse, like if they built the possibility of that into the cinematic universe, I reckon they could do like a Marvel one-shot that is set in the Marvel's universe, right? That'd be great.

Because then they could get like the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. characters. Yeah. You wouldn't have to get Chris Evans or whatever. You'd just see a zombie. Because then they could get like the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. characters. Yeah. Or like... You wouldn't have to get Chris Evans or whatever. You'd just see a zombie. Exactly. You could CGI zombie him. Yeah.

You could get... You could team up like the Agent Carter characters. Yeah. Because some of them have been killed. Yeah. Bring them back as zombies

in the one shot. Yeah, absolutely. Marvel, steal our idea, please. Buy it off us. Please. I don't think they do CGI because it's more expensive and it doesn't look as good.

That's true, yeah yeah I think you could do a prosthetic like The Walking Dead that's proven that you can make a boring show with good zombies yeah and make it mint

yes we should do an episode of that actually you should watch one episode and then we'll talk about it I thought you meant we should do an episode where we're in zombie makeup

for the whole thing with our bloody what was that ometer yeah the phononometer phononometer phononometer yeah Blade 3 though

the Patton Oswalt we've talked about this before tells an amazing story on the set of Blade 3 how Wesley Snipes was just high and crazy the entire time

great yeah because he's in Black Patton Oswalt's obviously in it and the way David Goyer actually directed that

who wrote the had a big hand in the Batman trilogy the Dark Knight trilogy and Man of Steel but um what was it that he wouldn't talk

to the director he would only make everybody call him Blade he would only communicate through post-it notes just like Blade would

Blade would and um what's his name the director ended up getting hiring some bikers to come in and say that

they were his bodyguards and Wesley Snipes got you know real flustered and he refused to be like be there for most of except for his close-ups he wasn't there

so a lot of time the actors were just talking to nobody or a stand-in so it's yeah that movie was an nightmare and Pat Norswood says

if that movie's like is it A if you don't if you know the story behind that movie right but otherwise it's just kind of an average

yeah yeah I remember thinking it was okay at the time, but otherwise it's just kind of an average film. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. I remember thinking it was okay at the time. I was like, it's fine, whatever. I didn't hate it.

The part of Blade 3 that threw the entire thing for me is that Dracula is in it, but at no point do they call him Dracula. They call him

the first one. They call him Drake a lot. Which is, just call him Drake. I don't understand. They're like, oh,

this is Dracula but he's going by Drake now yeah why because he loves Draco Malfoy oh and the

and the smooth R&B artist Drake he wasn't even big then how did that I don't know but the point like why put that in there what's the point of

exactly I don't know thank you I'm shaking my head you are shaking your head like you don't know nothing because I don't think people would be like

I don't know I think they probably thought that that my head. You are shaking your head like you don't know nothing. Because I don't think people would be like, I don't know. I think they probably thought that that was uncool. They're like, people then get a image of Leslie Nielsen's Dracula. With the white tie and tails and the red sash. Because you had to be like a shirtless Dracula in a vest. You did have to be that. With a mohawk. I don't think that's...

No, then. I'm saying... Yeah, I know. You don't have to but that's the way that they did it yeah I don't think

yeah but I'm saying I don't think they would give enough credit to like horror movie fans and action movie fans just generally I would have totally

been on board with that I know I'm agreeing with you but I'm saying but I'm saying that they don't think that you want to see that that's what I'm saying

well I'm glad they're all fired now that's what I'm saying mostly yeah they mostly are good the guy who produced like the bad X-Men movies think that you want to see that. That's what I'm saying. Well, I'm glad they're all fired now. That's what I'm saying. Mostly, yeah. They mostly are. Good. The guy who produced the bad X-Men movies is now the head of Sony. He is too, yeah. So that's good. Anyway,

it doesn't matter. That's a whole other episode. Anyway, that's X-Men movies that we just talked about. Yeah, X-Men movies. I saw that on VHS. The first one? I think you were there. It might have been the first time we met, actually. It was at my parents' house. Someone wrote in this week.

I lived with your parents for a long time. They said, how do you guys meet? Friend of my brother's. That's the end of the story. But yeah, I watched it. I was like, this is really good. I'm really surprised how much I enjoy this movie. And I was like, I can't believe you haven't seen the movie before.

Don't forget to return your VHS, you dickhead. Yeah. It's a good movie though, right? Definitely. I haven't really gone back and watched it that much. There's a good bit where Mystique is the Statue of Liberty miniature statue. Oh, yeah. That was pretty good, wasn't it?

Solid, yep. When she morphs into somebody and she has Wolverine's claws, how does that work? Well, if you recall in that film she cuts it off yeah yeah but does that mean she can like morph her body to have extra parts i guess to it yeah that's pretty good isn't it it's really good yeah high quality sentinel powers because they bought that in days of future past because the sentinels have mystique powers oh they do too don't they yeah something yeah yeah pretty good the x-men i remember being disappointed by x-men 2 when I saw it as well.

Even though in hindsight it's good. I remember being a little bit disappointed as well. Insofar as there was a machine that could kill everybody in the world. And I don't know, for whatever reason I'm not on board with that. And that was more or less the plot of the comic book that it was based on. For some reason I didn't buy it in movie form. Well, isn't he, and in the comic, isn't he a preacher as well? Yeah, he's Reverend Striker.

Reverend Striker, yeah. Yeah, so in the first one it was a machine to turn, Magneto in those movies in hindsight isn't very intelligent. Because in the first one he makes a machine that's supposed to turn people into mutants, it does and then kills them but he's still like yeah i'm just gonna do this i don't believe you the second one is just like i'm gonna kill everybody who's not a mutant right like you'd think being who he is he wouldn't do that nah like how could he come back to days of future past and be a good guy when he was willing to kill everybody in the world on a whim? Yeah, that's true.

That's true. It was like that wasn't his big plan in the film. Yeah. It was just like, well, I've got this guy here who could do this for me. Might as well. Because why is it he? I don't understand it. Look, maybe he mellowed.

Yeah, I guess he did. I mean, he did clearly, but I don't know. But yeah, three is not very good, though, is it? Or it's not? No, it's not. I think we've talked about three out late. We have. We've done this not very good though is it or it's not no it's not I think we've talked about 3 out later we have

we've done this before go listen to it or whatever but yeah the reason that doesn't work is because Bryan Singer left to do Superman Returns and they got

Brett Ratner on board they were supposed to get the guy who did First Class Matthew Bourne but he said this is enough time to develop so they got Brett Ratner in who can turn around

a movie on a dime why can't he speaking of trilogies oh yes Rush Hour trilogy. Oh, yeah. Great. Well, look, Superman, though.

Technically, the Superman movies are a trilogy. They are not. They are. Let me explain it to you in alien terms. Oh, yes. Superman 1 and 2, right? Obviously, the first two. 1 and 2, sure.

Superman Returns is technically the third Superman movie because they discount three and four. Oh, I see what you've done here. In your dick. What do you think it is? So that's a trilogy of filmers. You bloody... No, I don't buy it. It's the same thing as the alien thing.

It's the same thing. Oh, I see. Right. Okay, right. Hmm. So we're arbitrarily just turfing several movies out of a trilogy. I guess we are.

Hmm. Yeah. What do you think of the Superman trilogy? The one that you've just invented. I haven't. That is canon. That is how it works. I didn't invent it. Is it canon?

Yes, it is. Superman Returns is set after Superman 2. Superman goes into space to find Krypton. We don't see it because they cut that scene out. Right. It's a very good scene. It's an interesting scene. Best effects, I Krypton we don't see it because they cut that seed out right it's a very good seed it's an interesting seed best effect

you can still see it it's still alive crystal spaceship crystal spaceship and then he comes back to Earth and then that's when Superman Returns starts

and also it can't be that far after too because his son is he's probably gone four years five years

because his son's grown by then that much and he can pitch because his son's grown yeah but then that much and he can pitch a piano and whatever yeah sure but yeah that's a trilogy mason i think okay so by definition it's a trilogy if it has a piano in it that's what that's what you're saying that's the you're destructuring all your trilogies around people doing piano solos definitely i am that's what i'm doing look i don't believe in this i don't think and they when superman returns came out did they say okay we're officially discarding three and four yes did they yes all right because it doesn't work i mean it does work at all none of it works we're talking about it ever but yeah because the idea was that people didn't three and four

weren't received well at the time or now. Yes. And so they were like, we want to give this a proper sequel. I'd say less now. I would say, I want to give this a proper sequel. And that's what they did. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. And that's why that's the best movie trilogy. Fine. I would say that those movies are all on par. Yeah. No, you're right. Love them or hate them.

I think they're on par. I know you hate them. I have a fondness for them. I don't hate them. I nothing them. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But they're on par. I know you hate them. I have a fondness for them. I don't hate them. I nothing them. Yeah. Okay. But they're on par.

Yeah. You're right. I nothing them. There's some interesting elements to each of them. Yes. There's also some completely nonsensical narrative breaking elements to them. I don't believe that to be true, Mason. It's fine.

Say whatever you want. Actually, someone, Caleb wrote in this week and said you should do an episode where it's different series versus each other so like the Man of Steel Superman versus Superman Returns

Superman oh I see right or like the two Spider-Man universes and whatever so I've noted that so we will do that at some point

but yeah it's pretty good so I guess we'll just move on from that because it's not really one I guess are you sure Iron Man

because it was ridiculous just really it was ridiculous just really it was too much of a love letter to the Richard Donner movies yeah it really was it didn't it didn't work I don't know

imagine what these would have been like if we had the special effects of 2008 is essentially six seven six

great yeah Iron Man but imagine imagine it let's do it again let's release another Superman movie but imagine if we had the CGI of 2008. Iron Man trilogy.

Oh, yes. This is the most recent trilogy? Was the third one the best one? No, definitely not. No, definitely not. No, not at all. I think, is it better than two, though? Is three better than two?

I said this before. It works as a movie, as like a buddy comedy, cop comedy. Yeah. But it doesn't work as an Iron Man movie. It doesn't work. Well, it doesn't work as an Iron Man movie, and it doesn't work... If Tony Stark's supposed to be intelligent. Yeah, it does.

Exactly, yeah. It doesn't work because the entire premise of Iron Man 1 and 2 and the Avengers is that Tony Stark is a guy who learns very quickly and he learns from his mistakes and in Iron Man 3 he says hey the Mandarin come and get me here's where I live and when the Mandarin does come and get him where he lives he's completely

unprepared despite the fact that under his house is like 40 fully armed independently functional Iron Man suits. Yes, that he could have just lined up. Yeah, that he could have easily used to take down a small number of helicopters. Yes.

Also, the Mandarin probably knows where he lives. Oh, yeah. I would imagine a lot of people know where he lives. He's always shouting about it. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe he's constantly inviting people to his house, like his enemies. Oh, right.

And that's why he was like this never happened literally never turned up that's true i'm like i'm like hey open dire state come and bloody get me i'll i'll i'll take you on and then they're like hey you killed him in the first one he's like oh yeah i did didn't i yeah hey hey he had that big gas powered iron man suit hey whash, come and get me. You never come and get me. Oh, that's right. I killed him.

Yeah. Self-destructed. And like 100 robots fell on him or whatever the hell happened. I don't know. The entire expo building fell on him. No, they did the thing where they did the repulsors together. Yeah, yeah. The crossing the streams.

But then the suit then self-destructed. Oh, did it? Oh, it did. He predated it. Yeah, he pred The crossing the streams. But then the suit, didn't his suit then self-destruct? Oh, did it? Oh, it did. He credited it. Yeah, he credited it. Yeah. There's also an alternative version of that where he grabs Pepper and Iron Man. Just the condiment.

Yes, the condiment, yeah. Throws it in his face. And then all those suits fall off. Oh, yeah. But where, like, he grabs Pepper and Tony Stark comes down and they have a weird kind of standoff it's not better or worse

so this is an actual film scene yeah it's filmed the special effects aren't completed right okay yeah but that looks real great that was so good but yeah

I remember being so disappointed with Iron Man 2 but to Marvel's credit they learnt a big lesson from Iron Man 2 where they realised oh's credit, they learned a big lesson from Iron Man 2. Where they realized, oh, we can't just make trailers for upcoming movies. And Sony didn't learn that lesson.

They never learned that lesson. But Iron Man 2 is just build up. It really is. That's all it is. It's build up and a great scene with the suitcase. Yeah, which they spoil in the trailer. Yeah. Oh, here's a Weekly Planet exclusive for you.

Sure. I met somebody today who is a friend of Robert Downey Jr.'s stunt double. Oh, yeah. For the Iron Man movies. Okay. And apparently, like, when they were filming one of them, like, he was in the suit. Because it's like a... It's like a plastic shell.

Yeah, and it's like a very... You have to be a very specific physique. You have to be really tall and broad-shouldered, but really narrow-waisted. Because that's kind of how the suit fit. He doesn't, he doesn't look anything like Robert Downey Jr. But, uh, but he was wearing, he was wearing like the top half of the suit and the helmet or whatever. And you know, the, the, the gloves or whatever.

And he's kind of, you can't see anything cause it's like two really narrow asslets and he's coming up a flight of stairs and Robert Downey Jr. Is coming down the flight of stairs and Robert Downey Jr. Is like, yeah, up top. Let's, let's do this. Let's make it happen or whatever. He goes for the high, he posts for the high five and the guy just blanks him

because you can't see what's happening. People had to tell him later. You blanked Robert Downey Jr. And you're fired. Yeah, you're definitely fired. That's great. There's a lot of that. And apparently there was a lot of like,

you know, like bumping into him as they switch places and stuff like that. Because it's not, you know. I'd like to think there was one

standing Iron Man suit and they just swap it in between scenes. Yeah. Look, Robert Downey Jr. though, he changed the character of Iron

Man. Yeah. Because in the comics he changed acting. He did, didn't he? In Sherlock Holmes A Game of Shadows. But that character's not that carefree or wasn't in the comics. No. he did didn't he in sherlock holmes a game of shadows but that

character's not that carefree or was it in the comics it was very somber like a bottle an alcoholic or borderline alcoholic just full of regret and remorse and anger and bitterness and shame and hate and they've and they and robert daddy junior's you know personality kind of took that on i don't care about that because the comics don't have to be the same, obviously. But I think if they did that now, because that was the first Marvel Cinematic Universe movie, they made a lot of changes and nobody cared. But if they brought it out now and they were like, oh, by the way, Jarvis is a butler and Jarvis is a robot, not a real man and whatever,

I think people would have been very upset. But then people were like yeah okay because he wasn't that popular a character everybody's an expert after a movie comes out but yeah also you know

how he broke his ankle or rolled his ankle in three a lot of that is they've just CGI'd his head onto somebody else like the end scene

is not there at all do you mean the one where he throws the arc reactor yeah really that's not him at all like the Titanic yeah the end scene is not there at all. Do you mean the one where he throws the arc reactor? Yeah. Really?

That's not him at all. Like the Titanic. Yeah. The end of the Titanic. Some kid's going to find that and blow his hands off. Like that's not going out when you throw it in the water. It's just going to... You're right. It's still got a lot of energy in it, doesn't it?

Yeah. There better be a scene in one of the like, you know, Iron Man 4 or, you know, Age of Ultron or whatever, where some, like, kid shows up and he's built his own, like, claptrap Iron Man suit or whatever. He's missing heads. Yeah, exactly. And Stark's like, oh, yeah, that was really irresponsible of me. Or, like, he goes to a scene in a hospital and it's like a full wing of like

dock workers that have been horribly burned like when he blew up all his Iron Man suits at the end of 3 yeah people like we were just unloading

some pallets and then just this Iron Man suit flew over and exploded plummeted out of the sky took out Gary Gary's dead

the foreman yeah yeah those movies he had seven kids the strength of iron man the movies are clearly in the character yeah and robert downey jr that in the movies themselves right one is great yep the others have elements of them that are good yeah but i would say they're probably some of the weaker films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe 2 and 3. Yeah. Yeah.

Trilogy, say. Trilogy. Yeah. I know, right? That race track seems like it's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why Whiplash thought that was a good idea, though.

Just turning up to face a guy, like, shirtless. Yeah, that's definitely weird. Put on a shirt, man. Anyway, one more trilogy more trilogy okay I'm ready the Dark Knight trilogy oh yes I've heard of it yes

would you say that is one where the third one is the best of the third one not the best but is okay of the third ones because I'm looking at the rest of these here

yeah I mean we said Superman Returns is sort of the same we did you said that yes but looking at these other ones even though a lot of people hate the Dark Knight Rises turns is sort of the same. We did. You said that. Yes. But looking at these other ones,

even though a lot of people hate the Dark Knight Rises, is it the most consistent trilogy? Aside from Superman? I think it is, but I would argue that they're not. They're all consistent. Yeah. But they've all got,

they're all consistent inso. But they've all got, they're all consistent in so far, in so far as they all have weird, like weird leaps in logic and weird stuff that happens in each of them. Yeah. Like, like the Joker's plan, like the Joker's plan, which is super elaborate and then,

you know, relies on a dozen things all falling in. Yeah. You know, exactly the right. I don't know. He's a master strategist and whatever, but yeah, there's a lot of that. You, whatever way you look at it, it falling in. Yeah. You know, exactly the right. I don't know. He's a master strategist and whatever, but yeah,

there's a lot of that. You, whatever way you look at it, it doesn't. Yeah. Or in the first one where the, it's the weird microwave cannon that's supposed to, the microwave device that's supposed to evaporate all the water and,

and cause, you know, put the poison in the air and make everybody insane. If that were to work, everybody in the city would be dead. Yeah. Like, you'd just fire it up, all the water in everybody's bloodstream would... Bam.

Just kill everybody. You'd have a very brief and horrific hallucination and you'd die. You would die. And you'd burst. Exactly, yeah. You'd burst. And in three, and there's a video on this, on your YouTube channel. Yeah.

Which is, Bruce Wayne is thrown into a pit. There's a whole bunch of guys down there whole bunch of wood there's no there's no guards yeah just build something and just build a platform or a step yeah a bunch of steps and walk out of the pit i completely and also you have a rope you can throw that over and just climb out make a little hook on the end yeah totally yeah you've had a big rant about that yeah it's on the internet it's on the internet if you look at dumbest Batman and Spider-Man moments

that's it that'll be there at Mr. Spider-Man yeah that's a lot of people's favourite thing oh yes so

it's pretty great yeah I mean now that there's a new Batman movie coming or a new Batman a lot of people

are turning on this trilogy they're turning on it I noticed especially in this last video I did, because I, again, I did terrible moments in good comic book movies

and I make mention of getting the fingerprint off the bullet that goes into the wall. Oh yeah, that's also in turn, yeah. I don't want to get into it. Yeah. That's the logical weird thing in there. It's some sort of, yeah, it's a lot of weird comic book science.

Yeah. And a lot of the comments are, Oh, this isn't that much of a good film. Is that what they're saying? Yeah. Well, like a lot of it is, I mean, a lot of weird comic book science. Yeah. And a lot of the comments are... Oh, this isn't that much of a good film. Is that what they're saying? Yeah. Well, a lot of it is... I mean, a lot of it's very legit. He's not Batman so much in the sense that he's not a good detective.

He doesn't think things through. We've mentioned this before. He's very easily tricked. Yeah. He's not the best representative. He works in this world, but he's not comic book Batman. But the same way that Tim Burton's Batman wasn't comic book Batman either. I don't think we've seen comic book Batman yet in live action.

I think in the animations and that we have. But yeah, I don't know. They're pretty good films though, I guess. Yeah. Also, I think three would have been a disappointment because there was no Heath Ledger. Yeah, exactly. That would have gone a whole different way. And it's a shame we'll never see that.

There's a storyboard'll never see that. There's a storyboard that's out there and I don't know if it's a legitimate one or just somebody has drawn it up on their own where we see

all the inmates escape Arkham Asylum but we see the Joker's cell like it's left closed because they don't want to deal with him. Oh, okay. I don't know

if that's a legit piece of storyboarding or if that's just kind of wishful thinking. In the novelisation they make mention I think that he does escape but they don't know if that's a legit piece of storyboarding or if that's just kind of wishful thinking. In the novelization, they make mention, I think, that he does escape. Yeah. But they don't know where he went. He was just never seen again.

Right. I feel like he's the kind of guy that he could just go and disappear forever. Sure. And like, and not be bothered by it. Do you know what I mean? Like, he could just go, I had a good run. He had a good run. I had some fun.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. That's true. Like, he's not, he's not drawn to, like, he's not like a Mr. Zazz or whatever he has to kill. Yeah. He just, well, I had fun doing this. Now I'll do something else.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe you're right. Even though he said that me and Batman are going to do this forever. Right. But because Heath Ledger died, they obviously, they can't do that. But maybe in a few years time, they'll aliens it where they'll make a new Batman 3. Yeah.

And they'll recast the Joker or whatever. I'm also under the impression that the scene where Batman is held in judgment by the Scarecrow was also going to be the Joker, right? I completely agree with that. And that was nice to see the Scarecrow in that. That was cool. Yeah. But he would have played a much bigger role.

I know Christopher Nolan very nearly didn't come back because he's led to die and whatever. But I remember, because that happened before the dark knight came out he died before i came out and i remember being disappointed that he wouldn't be in another even though i hadn't seen that yet yeah i was like oh that sucks yeah what i'd seen of it i was like oh that would have been a good character to see again and again yeah and maybe the maybe the movies would have continued if he had been alive maybe there would have been more than three i don't know probably not but yeah we work in trilogies these days boy reboots now it's all world building though i think for three movies yeah but i think we're moving away from the trilogy because even like

you look at the pirates movies that's now become four and we'll become not gonna be looking at the pirates movies indiana jones is gonna keep going i think i think the age of trilogies is is over wow that's a revelation to have at the end of an episode about trilogies isn't it guys just ignore everything you heard on this episode yeah so i i think there's no i think things now it's things will keep going for as long as unless the director has a very specific vision like like your lord of the rings like your like your the dark knight like you you know, like Spider-Man was supposed to keep going. There was supposed to be a Spider-Man 4 and they're going to bring in Black Cat and Vulture

and all that. Yeah. So I don't know. I just feel like three, maybe they, they stop at three because it's always the worst one. Yeah. That's probably it. Yeah. Yeah.

I say worse or worst. Worst one. I say worst one. Great. Anyway, you know what it's time for though? What is it time for? Oh, my favorite trilogy it. Yeah. Yeah. I say worse or worst? Worst one. I'm going to say worst one. Great. Anyway, you know what it's time for, though? What is it time for? Oh, my favourite trilogy out of those. Go.

Give me my options again. Oh, by the way, Adam Dogson recommended the best trilogies episode. Adam Dogson. Yes. Great. Yes. That's good. It's all got in my notes.

Spider-Man, TMNT, X-Men, Men in Black. Oh, Men in Black. That's a trilogy who gives a shit yeah exactly and that's not my favourite what if that was the twist yeah that's my favourite definitely haven't seen the third one

but it's irrelevant I loved them they should have made one and three one and three three's okay but they should have made two's terrible

they should have made them closer together Blade, Superman, Iron Man, Dark Knight it's Dark Knight I think nah oof I thought I liked

the first two Spider-Mans yeah see exactly yeah exactly look on Charisma Ryan I'm gonna go

with the Iron Man films okay sure look if Heath Ledger was in all three Batman movies yes but he's not

so you're saying they should have cut him into Batman Begins yes that's not exactly what I'm saying they should have gone back

fair enough do you think Batman Begins is as good as exactly what I'm saying they should have gone back fair enough do you think Batman Begins is as good as The Dark Knight because it didn't make it went well Batman Begins yeah

but it didn't make crazy crazy money well that's not really an indication of quality is it no you're right and then I think and that build up

like that The Dark Knight was so hyped before it came out because people enjoyed Batman McGinn's and watched it on DVD and word of mouth spread and then they cast the Joker and, you know, that little, even that little calling card at the end of Batman McGinn's, the Joker got people really excited.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that, that's responsible for the big, for a big way of the success of the Dark Knight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But do you think they're on par or do you think Dark Knight's better? What's the best scene in Batman McGinn's? Ah, the bit in the prison where he beats up all those dudes. Oh, par or do you think Dark Knight's better what's the best scene in Batman Begins ah the bit in the prison where he beats up

all those dudes oh yeah it is too it's pretty good I love all the Bruce Wayne stuff in that the Batman stuff is not as much yeah

I love the bit where he's in his house and he's pretending to be drunk and he kicks everyone out yeah okay that's pretty good I love that

yeah he's a great Bruce Wayne he's not a great Batman yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna say Dark Knight's better yeah fair enough

I'm gonna say the Dark Knight trilogy is fair enough i'm gonna say the dark knight trilogy is the best of the comic book trilogies but i don't think looking at these none of these are perfect right exactly except obviously blade yeah definitely they nailed the comic bookness oh definitely they did absolutely every every aspect of that all right you know what it's time for though mason what did christian bale keep with a silly voice i don't know i understand it is committed it's commitment yeah but look when we get him on the show yeah and we can do that because he hasn't won an award like like jk simmons or has he is he maybe yeah probably one of the machines yeah but terminator salvation oh yeah that's the one look i'm gonna look i'll be like hey man you realize you could have just

there could have been like just some element of levity in the gonna look i'll be like hey man you realize you could have just there could have been like just some element of levity in the yeah where they could be like you've given up the voice or like you could put like a like a voice change a module in his in his thing and then you know it could be like just a deeper version of his own voice and he'd be like great that would that that'd be that's been murder on my throat yep absolutely you know we could have a little could have had a bit of a bloody laugh. Yeah. But now they're just in memory.

I thought, yeah, I was genuinely surprised. I don't know why. When I saw the movie, I'm like, oh, he's doing that still. Yeah. People have been making fun of this for four years. Yeah. But he's going to do it? Okay.

Anyway, it's still your favorite three movies of all time. Maybe, whatever. It's not. There are other better trilogies, as we've talked about. Yep. Back to the Future. Back to the Future, right. It's the best trilogy.

Uh-huh. You know what it's time for, Mason? What is it time for? It's time for What Are We Reading? Oh, what you're going to read. Yeah. What are you reading? Oh, wait.

Gap. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? Now talk about it. Now to talk about that. What have I reading today? Now talk about it. Now to talk about that. What have I been reading? I don't know. Do you want me to go?

You go. All right. I've been playing the Tomb Raider game on PS3, the reboot one. Yeah, I've played that. I've played it before. Yeah, it's great, right? It's really good. It's super solid.

Yeah. It's not, I mean, you know, the graphics are still excellent, given it's last generation. They redid it for the newer consoles, and that looks a lot better. But no, that's a great game. And you know what the best part of that game is? The bow and arrow. It's so fun.

Yeah, that's great. It's got great shooting mechanics. Yeah. I'm just skipping the story. They're like, Lara, you've got to get the radio. Skip. That game is, we must have talked about this. I think we've talked about this on the podcast. But that scene where she has to go up to the radio tower.

Yes. That is terrifying. It is, isn't it? Like, if you were seeing that on any kind of decently sized screen, that is just... Like, I'm not good with heights in real life. Aren't you? When I get to the edge of something, like, I get a feeling.

I get a feeling all up in my business. When I play that level where she has to climb up to this incredibly high tower, same feeling. Same feeling. For real. Did you feel like that tower was going to break in half? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah.

That's a great game, though. I've been meaning to play it for ages. I played it years, well, not years ago, when it came out. Yeah. But the last two games I've really enjoyed have been that and The Last of Us and I've played a few things here and there in between

but those last two games I've really really enjoyed I think I like the third person runny shooty stuff but yeah I don't think I've watched anything this week really

I don't have a what you not Game of Thrones nah I haven't had time I'll get to it are you off yet no it's next week.

Okay, cool. And when does Game of Thrones come back? April. I've got plenty of time then. Maybe before. Possibly before. You've just got to finish it before the season. I can do it.

Shut up, God. All right, I'm going to watch Game of Thrones this week. I'm going to watch some episodes. Good. I'll watch all of season one. Good. It's only 30 hours. Oh, Jesus.

It's not that many hours in a week, mate. You're right. I'm also reading a bunch of Star Wars comics. Oh, yeah. I've read a lot. The new Marvel stuff. I have read those, but I'm talking about the older stuff. Oh, like the old Marvel stuff?

Yeah. No, no, no. Not that old. The Legends. Somewhere in the middle. Dark Horse. Somewhere in the middle. Yeah, because I promised that if people wanted, I'd do a video on best Star Wars expanded stories

I'm going to do a comics one I'm going to do a books one so I've been reading catching up on a bunch of comics that I never got to read yep yeah

there's a lot of good stuff man there really is so I'll talk about that another week or in a video or something I've got a letter here from Jonathan he says

I'm a college student working for music film compositions for films my dream is he didn't write that out he for music film compositions for films my dream is he didn't write that he said that poorly my dream is

my dream is to my dream is to one day write a score for Marvel Studios I know you guys generally don't care for film scores but it's alright

I care for film scores I care for them but I think we have mentioned and it does sound very dismissive you only notice a film score

if it's bad yes what was the film score like it's bad. Yes. Like what was the film score like for Kingsman? Really good. Was it? Oh, yeah. Well, exactly.

You don't know. It was probably good, right? Yeah. Because I have no memory of it. Yeah. I mean, you've got your defining, you know, your Indiana Jones and your Star Wars and your John Williams stuff, basically. But yeah, you're right.

It's the Williams-Elfman scale. Yeah. But movies don't work without scores correct like you know that you know et yes somebody took i think i saw this in red letter red letter media somebody took out you know the last scene where et goes home oh yeah and everyone's crying and it's sad and whatever you take the music away from that it's just weird it's just pants like it doesn't work at all yeah i i don't think we have talked about this but yeah it whenever you whenever a score is used to emotionally manipulate you yeah i find that

very obvious okay and i don't care for it oh okay yeah yeah i do have that feeling of well what if you took that out it's like putting a laugh track on a yeah something, the scene that's not funny and something, and going, well, take that out. What have you got? Sometimes I... Sometimes I... Like, I notice that it's manipulating me, but I don't care. Like, Man of Steel got me in a few bits. Right. Like, you know the bit where he's in the bar

and that guy pushes him and he just... And he walks away and it's like sad music or whatever. And the bit where his dad dies and there's a few bits in it. Right. You know the bit that got me? Yes. The bit with Costner tells him

that he's from space. Right, right. And he's like, I just want to be like a regular boy or whatever. That guy will be like, oh my God, Superman. And do you feel that was at least partly the score? Definitely.

Yeah. I mean, credit to those guys. They really sold that scene. Yeah. But a lot of that's got to do with that score. Yeah. Man of Steel has a great score. Yeah.

I think if there's an... Probably with E.T. Because also a lot of films were slower back in the day. Films with Muppets. Films with Muppets were a lot slower back in the day. Not these days. Not with Muppets Most Wanted. But I think back in the day, films were a lot slower paced. And I think that would have been a lot more noticeable.

Yeah. Like they needed score to fill in the weird one shot. Well, apparently the first James Bond, and I haven't seen it, they ramp that score when he's doing nothing. He's walking down a hallway and it's like... Yes, no, you're right. Anyway, that's not Jonathan's question. We should do a film score episode. Okay.

But I don't know how we'd do it and be like, that's a good one, isn't it? You know how we could do it very easily? Yeah. Is you could edit in a lot of film scores. That'd be really easy for me. It would get taken down probably. Absolutely it would. And I don't want to do it.

Yeah. Yeah, anyway. This is his what you're reading, I guess, or I'm making it. Have either of you guys read Nova starring Sam Alexander as Nova? The new Nova? Yeah. I've read some of it as part of Original Sin, I think. Okay, sure.

Maybe it was the crossover. Yeah. I haven't read any of it. Oh, there's a kid in it. Yeah, there's a kid. And he gets the Nova thing. He gets the Black Nova helmet. I have seen.

I have read that. Yeah, he gets his father was in the Black Nova Corps. Yeah. Which is sort of like a special ops team kind of thing. It's the prelude, I think, where he goes to see the Watcher. Yes, that's the one. And the Watcher actually talks to him. Yeah, that's the one.

Yeah. That's really good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm sure there's other stuff. So I've not read it, but it looks pretty good. Yeah. He is in kind of goofy kid style, though.

Like a little body, big head. Yeah, sure. Yeah. That's a big helmet. It's a man's helmet. Yeah, it is a man's helmet. Yeah. He's not high-fiving Robert Downey Jr.

at a flight of standards is he that's so funny and embarrassing for Robert Downey Jr. oh yeah yeah yeah anyway

I like to think that Robert Downey Jr. goes for a lot of high-fives in life and they're not all like they're not all he posts up and they're not all taken

and he's just like whatever I'm cool you know he just keeps on strutting like if you follow if you took a video of him just walking down like melrose avenue or whatever it's a lot of him high-fiving people like hey i was rubbing down whatever and then like every fifth one people are just looking at their iphone or whatever and he's like yeah keep it moving anyway he says that i have a personal connection with this story because i'm a mexican mexican teen who grew up with only my mother and sister, just like Sam Alexander is doing as well.

Well, his father was kidnapped. Mine just never stayed. I'm sorry to hear that. That sucks. That's a bullshit scenario. Also, could I be the official Nova, Sam Alexander of the podcast? Also, in case you guys cared, I became a fan when I first watched James' video of the Captain America, the Winter Soldier Easter eggs, and then started listening every week after that

that's I want to bring that up because you pointed aggressively I don't care for it I'm interested in how people got listening to the podcast uh huh yeah

because like what is it how did you if you write a letter you just write how did you find out that would be interesting because I have no idea

is it through iTunes is it videos am I wasting my time talking about this on YouTube yeah you are yeah no you don't I am but yeah anyway thanks Sam good character good letter iTunes is videos that I'm, am I wasting my time talking about this on YouTube? Yeah, you are. Yeah. No, you're not. I am.

But yeah. Anyway, thanks, Sam. Good character. Good letter. Get out there. I will. No, you stay here. Oh, sorry.

Finished the podcast. Okay, fine. Anyway, Mason, it's letters time for letters. Letters time for letters. I don't think anybody sent a theme song in for this yet. Don't. Not because I don't want to hear it because I don't want to do any more editing than i have to sure because now i'm going to put in the what we're reading and i'm going to find the exact points of pain in the ass i hate doing it yeah little

editing as possible that's my motto but if you send in a letters thing that is so sweet that he has no choice no don't do that because i have full faith in our listeners like to be talented enough to come up with a real sweet letters thing i will not put it in wow because you hate our fans people no because people will send it in right yes and then i'll feel obliged to put it in yeah exactly because if i don't they'll be like i hated my theme yeah i don't hate your theme it's very good but i just don't want to do more work until i send it in right there's no there's only 30 hours in the week Mason I cannot possibly

be editing things in are they going to retroactively edit all the other ones now that's true is that how that works yeah it is otherwise we get fined

by Libsyn yes this is from John with a J I hear people commenting on how Idris Elba should possibly play Green Lantern's

Jon Stewart oh yes in the upcoming DC Cinematic Universe also people have been talking about Michelle Rodriguez for taking it on and she was like Albert should possibly play Green Lantern's John Stewart in the upcoming DC Cinematic Universe. Also, people have been talking about Michelle Rodriguez for taking it on, and she was like, I don't think my minorities should be taking white characters or whatever. But then she clarified to mean it as, they should be their own superheroes, as opposed to...

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. I think people were like, we're outraged. You're racist, possibly. Right, that's true. People didn't know how to react. Yeah, no, yeah. No, no, I did not hear that news.

But yeah, exactly. She's saying that... Mother Green Lantern is a white character. Right, but that's like, instead of just her being on the Justice League as a Green Lantern, it would be better if there was a character of colour, like an original one. Yeah, exactly. That makes sense, yeah. Cool.

I'd also like to see this become... She could be Jane Yeah, exactly. That makes sense, yeah. Cool. I'd also like to see this become... She could be Jane Stewart, though. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. He said he'd rather... She could be Jade? Is that the Emerald on the Green Lantern? Jade is the daughter of the original Green Lantern.

Yeah, I think that's what people were saying. Oh, right, okay. Possibly. He says he'd rather see Idris Elba play Black Manta. I'd like to know your thoughts on uh and opinions on that idea he's my favorite dc villain that would work i hope he's not in some weird marvel contract where he can't because he's heimdall because he's heimdall but yeah he should be a bigger character don't you think the black manta yeah no no no as been heimdall

right okay um but if you did aquaman aquamanaman. When you say bigger, you mean taller. When you say taller, you mean Stiltman, right? Stiltman, yes. Right, okay, we're on board. You followed the train of logic. Yes, I did. Stiltman. Idris Elba.

Idris for Stiltman. Can we get the hashtag going on Twitter? I'd like to see Idris for Stiltman. He could be an amazing villain if you're the first solo Aquaman movie and you get Black Manta. Yeah, yeah. And if it was those two, that would be great because there's a lot of the,

you know, the best, most iconic superhero roles, movie roles are villains. Yeah, true, yeah. I don't really, because we did an Aquaman episode. Oh, Michelle Rodriguez.

She'd love it. Oh, yeah, nice. That'd be great. Yeah. Because we did the Aquaman episode last week, but I have a small, like I remember a few Black Manta stories Oh, yeah, nice. That'd be great. Yeah. Because we did the Aquaman episode last week, but I have a small, like I remember a few Black Manta stories from when I was a kid,

but I don't know what the modern characterisation of that character is really. He's got a big ant head. He does have a big ant head. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. No, I don't know enough about him, to be honest.

Yeah. I don't know, because, yeah, I mean, but if it's somebody's favourite villain character, then there's got to be a lot of there's got to be something to it exactly

there's a reason yeah alright thanks John with a J I'd like to see Miss John Stewart though sure yeah

I was listening to one of your episodes in the car with my girlfriend who unfortunately doesn't find you oh look at me I've got a car

and a girlfriend shut up rich and in love yeah what a jerk well well who unfortunately doesn't find you that funny.

I think something's wrong with her. She's probably not. She's probably okay. She's probably fine. Yeah. I've had a lot. So I, you know, a lot of people who I know have stumbled on the podcast. Oh, yeah.

Like you were talking about, like, maybe, you know, you put a video. They've seen an amazing YouTube video that I've made. Precisely. Of sorts. With perfect timing and editing yeah look but anyway but they'll be like you know I was listening I went on like Dorkly or I don't know and I heard a video and I'm like is that Meso oh it is whatever and then they've gone and listened to the podcast but there are other people who have found out that I have a podcast and they listen

I say look I'll find an episode that's relevant to your interests and I will send that one to you listen to that one yeah but then I don't do that because I'm really lazy. Yes. And then they go, oh, I just listen. I just listen to a random one. I listen to the most recent one. I didn't understand it, but it seems like you're having a good time. So I didn't understand any of it.

Exactly. I get a lot of that where people are like, oh, tell me what it is. I'm like, no, it's not for you. Just trust me. You don't want to listen to it. It's not for you. I'm not saying like comic book people are better and i have some insider knowledge i'm just saying i am saying that i'm saying you

don't care like you don't care about this stuff but yeah somebody said to me my favorite part of the show is when you talk at the start and it's not about comic book stuff huh so they tune out after that yeah after that two minutes we we like oh god what are we talking about at the front yeah exactly yeah anyway listening with his girlfriend this rich guy with his girlfriend soon to be ex-girlfriend i convinced her that at some point the podcast you guys spoke in a new york accent and and if she bursts out laughing i can name our baby whatever i want oh here we go after you guys pull through and now there's a Bruce Wayne Lang roaming around in the world. Yeah, we did it.

Thanks to you guys. With that said, can I be the official immortal Thomas Wayne of the podcast? Thanks, guys. Keep up the good work. P.S. Mason, you're a dickhead. Brackets. Same for you, James.

You're not getting off that easy. Nice. Good. Nice. Equal opportunity insults. Yeah, good swipe. That's great. Yes.

We're sorry to your girlfriend. No, Bruce Wayne's a great name. For everything. Bruce Lane's a good name as well. That's a solid name. That is, isn't it? good swipe that's great yes we're sorry to your girlfriend no Bruce wants a great hug for everything Bruce Lang's a good name as well that's a solid name that is isn't it that is a man's name or a lady

depending on yeah L-A-N-G-E is that Lang or Lange at least they still say Lang cool yeah mate alright

email back in Lange and then we'll know yeah with a theme song yeah please don't do that hey guys Tim here reclaiming my spot of the official engaged couple and then we'll know with a theme song. Yeah, please. Don't do that. Hey guys,

Tim here reclaiming my spot of the official engaged couple with my fiancée Kristen. Speaking of my fiancée, you've got to probably fight with Lang over that. See how that goes.

All right. Speaking of my fiancée, Dave Crulier. Yes. This is our segment coming back. Very briefly. Our very occasional segment Dave Crulier. Yes. This is our segment coming back. Very briefly. Our very occasional segment, Dave Cruelier. Dave Cruelier, former star of Full House, is mean to someone.

Yes. I'm ready. Here we go. He did stand-up show at our college and she met him after the show. She said he was a total dickhead. Yes. Dave Cruelier is back. If anyone else has any Dave Cruelier stories we'd love to hear them

I want to know those stories that's three I think I reckon we can do more I reckon there's at least a thousand he's been around a long time and we have more listeners than we should by all rights have so

the Alanis Morissette song you ought to know is a Dave Crullier story boy is it yeah so also here's a picture of our friend Eddie dressed as Jim Gordon for Halloween. I'll show you that after. Okay, great.

It's very good. Excellent. But a young Jim Gordon. Like, he looks how Jim Gordon should look in the show. Interesting. But doesn't. But doesn't. Mustache or no mustache?

Come on. Great. Good mustache. So, tell your friend Eddie thanks. And tell Dave Croullier if you see him again to listen to this show. Because we want him to know that we don't like him. Yeah. So, having not met him. uh it's from e millis so i love you guys's show i listen to it all the time

and i was wondering if there are any good michael bay movies and it and if there are which are they and if there's not hug mason just do it there is a good michael bay is it the rock yes did he write the rock did he direct The Rock? I think he directed it. Okay. Yeah, I like The Rock. It's great, right? I mean, it's been a really long time since I've seen it.

Yeah. But it's good. It's got Michael Biehn from Alien and the new Alien that's coming out. It's got Ed Harris in it. It's got Ed Harris. It's got Nicolas Cage's best wig. Yeah. Sean Connery's best wig.

Sean Connery, definitely. But he's had that wig. He's had a long time to refine that wig. He to refine that wig There's a car chase with Ferraris Isn't it implied that He's probably James Bond Oh okay yeah Because he's a British secret agent There's some implication that he is

That it's James Bond and he's been Put into jail It's not explicitly said because you can't do that So yeah No hugs here Mason sorry That's right rock's pretty good and he's been put into jail. It's not explicitly said because you can't do that. You certainly can't do that. Yeah. So yeah, no hugs here, Mason. Sorry. That's right.

Rock's pretty good. Do you, would, okay, it's good. Would you go back and watch it? Do you think it's going to hold? I would. No, you know what?

If it was on, I'd watch it. Right, yeah. But I, I don't know if my TV, no, it is connected because normally I just plug in a hard drive. Right. Yeah.

There you go. Next, last letter. Hey, Danny Thompson here. Love the Yeah. There you go. Next letter. Last letter. Hey, Danny Thompson here. Love the show. Was wondering if it was possible for the weekly planner to be also on SoundCloud, and I don't know how it works, and if you can do it. There are probably a lot of people, including one single friend of mine, that would love to listen to the podcast, but they can't because they don't have iPhones.

So if you do do that. Do do. Yeah, exactly. That's what Danny's written here. Oh, right. written here oh right he's anticipated my terrible joke that would be the best few people asked me this yes we're on libsyn because i looked into sound cloud yeah and apparently the functionality of it in it the admin side of it is garbage right that's what i've heard but under every video i do there's a direct download link yeah so you get a weekly planet pod.libsyn.com.

Is that it? Yeah. If you don't remember that, every video you go down, there's a direct download link to it. So, yeah. And I think there are, especially like if you have an Android phone or something like that, there's a lot of, you can get like, there's podcast apps where you can just plug in the RSS feed, which is weeklyplanetpod.libsyn.com. You just put that in and then you can download like as normal like it's for iTunes

forever and I know a lot of people are against iTunes yes fair enough SoundCloud has a better user interface for that kind of stuff yes it does

I know that it's very pretty yes and it's got nice little graphics it does little orange graphics but I did look into it and unless it gets better

I'm not doing it but I also did download the SoundCloud app for my iPhone and I'm like I'll see how this goes and it's like sign in create an account I'm, I'm not doing it. But I also did download the SoundCloud app for my iPhone and I'm like, oh, I'll see how this goes. And it's like sign in, create an account. I'm like, I'm not doing that. It's like a lot of work. Good.

Also, I just want to mention, Sean sent in a super cut of all our singing and impressions. Oh my God, what? It's very good. Yeah. Well, it's insane. You do a lot of singing. Yeah, I know. It's how I feel alive. that's cool but i don't know

what i bet it's weird like out of context it is but it's really i i loved it i don't know what to do with it do i put at the end of this do we wait for the 100th episode which is next week by the way what no it's like 74 what you could have said anything there i would have been surprised you know what and this this happened happened this has happened a while back and I didn't we had another listener way back yeah

who cut together like some just odd quotes yeah and things like that yeah and that was that's always been a dream of mine to have just a series

of out of context quotes smushed together into like a supercut so thank you to that listener back in the day yes and thank you to this listener yeah

who's who's it's literally all the singing and all the to this listener who is it's literally all the singing and all the impressions I bet our impressions are real good out of context

they're pretty great so I don't know what to do with that well send it to me obviously I'll put it on something I might put it on the Patreon

or I'll put it at the end of an episode one week we get from our listener we get an app on Twitter every week I think and I don't have their name right here but they are they get all the they put it on the Reddit We get from our listener, we get an app on Twitter every week, I think.

And I don't have their name right here, but they put it on the Reddit. They get all our references. Oh, I meant to mention that. They get all the references that we say in the podcast. They put them together. And it's a lot of good work. And if you want to skip something, it's all there. Or if you're like, I wonder what Hey Hey It's Saturday is. Why do they keep talking about that?

The answer is because we're idiots. But if you want to know what that is, it's in there. Why do they keep talking about that? The answer is because we're idiots. But if you want to know what that is, it's in there. Yeah. That's a lot of good work. So thank you. We'll get the listener's name all shouted out next week. You better. Yeah.

Don't forget. Unless they stop doing it because, again, it's a lot of work. It is a lot of work. And if you want to stop doing it, that's also cool. Yeah. Because why commit to anything? Don't because we'll get you. We're coming for you.

We'll get you good. Yes. You're going to get got. Whether you continue doing this or not. Threats. Well, that's the show for this week. Sure is. Thank you to the Bruton Abascalist for the themes.

Yes. And the only themes we'll ever have. Whatever, man. I've heard a few people say they're turned off by the shooting up your butthole bit. Or people have been. Maybe we can tweak that then. Maybe. I don't know.

I feel like if we change it, people will be like, you sellouts. Yeah. What if we change it to the be like you sellouts yeah what if we change it to the less offensive shooting up your pee hole which is more hardcore when you think about it oh yeah

let's not do that yeah alright I don't know man well if we were to change it I'm not saying we are yeah what would you change it to

you're good with words I'm not good with words you've said words I'm good with as we I'm good with impressions and singing off key. That's what I'm good at. That's what I'm good at.

Yeah. If only you had Spider-Man's musical sense. So good. If you want to support us, you go to Patreon and do that if you want. Mr. Slash Mr. Sunday Movies.

Patreon.com Slash Mr. Sunday Movies. That's there. If you don't want to, that's cool too. Because everything I have on there will probably eventually go to the main channel

so don't stress if not what else where are you at? oh I'm at wikipedia brown on twitter yes I'm at

mrsunnymovies on twitter and then we collectively as a podcast are weeklyplanetpod on twitter and facebook and on gmail I gotta update that

facebook and twitter oh yeah how much has happened I haven't done that in a while because I lost it and whatever and then I got two separate

Twitter accounts it's a nightmare I've got my personal Twitter account which is just political rants I don't even have it I think I do have

an old one somewhere I don't know anyway Mason great musings yeah also t-shirts there might be a new never go back t-shirt

on there oh by the way my bloody card didn't arrive so I can't oh your video capture card I talked to Mason before the show it didn't it's video capture card I talked to Mason before the show

it didn't it's not here yet I want to do it I'm really annoyed it's been a nightmare yeah courier companies so I know

but anyway next week Mason oh yes Ant-Man's out no it's not you son of a bitch I got so excited for a second there

I can't you know what I cannot be that guy in the world like this is the thing and people are like what really and I can't you know what I cannot be that guy in the world like this is the thing and people are like what really and I can't be that

horrible mean guy because it's a bad thing it makes you you're a bad bloke for doing that what is that next week anything I don't know

nothing I don't think not much take a week off then alright fine I don't know what is something great best trilogies

oh yeah we'll just continue this back to the future no you really love that trilogy you know what it's okay is it because sloan pine just blew your mind and that's changed my whole change your whole perspective on life didn't it yeah exactly because it was one pine yeah and also clayton's ravine is changed to something else in three because lara was supposed to because Clara was supposed to go into it. I don't know.

Yeah. Why does his hand fade away first in Back to the Future when Marty's playing guitar and disappearing? Oh, because he touches himself at night. That's why. He's a teenager. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's the show.

Goodbye. Grab that gem, you guys. Grab it. Grab it. Okay, bye. That's the show. Goodbye. Grab that gem, you guys.

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