The Weekly Planet - 74 Best Comic Book Weapons

Episode Date: March 9, 2015

We hit the ground running this week with news of Captain America: Civil War, Spider-man, Supergirl, Gotham and a new The Avengers: Age Of Ultron trailer.Plus a breakdown of the best comic book weapons. Well, some of them. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, an official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com. My name is James, editor at that website. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. Nice shirt. Thank you. Do you own your clothes? Well, not all of them.

Like, not my shoes and stuff that'd be weird right i wouldn't stop you but yeah no you wouldn't and i i respect you for that that you'd let it go just to see what had happened we've got a new layout in here we have we have actual real i was gonna say celebrity microphones celebrities might use but they're like professional ones yeah that's good let's see how this works out. Like a Ryan Seacrest. Ryan Seacrest. Like a Grant Denya. Sure.

Just like the Australian Ryan Seacrest. Is he? It's a lot of credit to Grant Denya. You're right. I feel like they've got the same face. No, you're probably right. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Anyway, new setup. Yeah. So we're not together on the couch anymore. No. Which I miss. Yeah, I bet. Maybe I'll scooch over later. I bet.

Well, straight into news then, Mason. Okay. Do you know Harrison Ford was in a plane crash oh yeah that was a thing for a while it was and it was

he was in massively for a while for the time that it took for the plane to crash is that what you mean he was in massively critical condition and then it's been

now he's fine bullshit yeah that was some TMZ I'll tell you why that is because there is no way that Harrison it's nothing to do with like

you know oh they misreported it or they made it you know big for flashy news or whatever it's nothing to do with like you know oh they misreported or they they made it you know big for flashy news or whatever it's he was in critical condition yeah and then he realized that if he died his last movie would be a star wars movie and he's like nope and all his wounds just closed right up yeah and he just walked out of that plane yeah absolutely did did apparently uh it was an amazing landing that he pulled off. Was it like a prop plane?

Like a vintage? Yeah, like a vintage plane. Because he's obviously an enthusiast. He's a rocketeer. He's a rocketeer. He is a rocketeer. Yeah. But this isn't the first-

Just for the record, I know he was not the rocketeer in the film The Rocketeer. I don't know if you do know that. All right. Okay. Just so we don't get letters. So you don't get letters. Yeah. But-

I know Timothy Dalton was in The Rocketeer. He was the rocketeer. He was not the rocketeer. He was the Nazi. Yeah. Okay. Just so we don't get letters. So you don't get letters. Yeah. But- I know Timothy Dalton was in The Rocketeer. He was The Rocketeer. He was not The Rocketeer. He was the Nazi. Yeah. Yeah. No, he exploded at the end, didn't he? Yeah, he did, yeah.

He tried to be The Rocketeer. Correct. And that was his downfall. Only The Rocketeer can be The Rocketeer. That's right, yes. But yeah, no, this isn't his first plane crash. Huh. He was in a plane crash in 2000.

They were a similar-ish thing, I guess. Well, it's similar because they're both plane crashes. Sure. And he crashed a helicopter in the 90s or something. But we all crashed a helicopter in the 90s. Didn't we? Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, that's a lot of crashes.

That's an astounding number of crashes for anyone to live through. Most people who've been in a plane crash, they've just been in the one and it killed them. That's right. So, this is quite, this plane crash, they've just been in the one and it killed them. That's right. So this is quite, this is like, I feel it's his Hollywood power. Okay, sure. That's allowed him to survive so many crashes. You're probably right. You didn't want like an American Pie style Harrison Ford song.

Oh, no, absolutely not. No. Yeah. But good on him. I'm glad he's alive. Yeah. I still reckon they're going to kill him in this Star Wars coming up. Oh, yeah, definitely.

But we'll see how that goes. Does anyone think he's going to survive past seven? I doubt it. I thought you were going to say, does anyone think he's going to survive past 70? He has. He has. He's 72. Okay, right.

But, yeah. Good on him. I'm glad he's okay. Let him grump on. Oh, yes. This next bit of news could be... The president from Air Force One. Something, something, then he's done.

That would be the lyric in the new version of American Pie. Would Weird Al do it, like his Star Wars parody one? Yes, he would. Yes, he would. And it'd be at the Grammys or the Oscars or something, and we'd all have to pretend that it's serious. Like, he'd have a real serious face on, and he'd do the line about Harrison Ford, and everybody would have to try desperately not to laugh.

That's what it would be. I like to think he'd come out as well. Weirdo loves a costume. Yep. Hand solo outfit, Indiana Jones hat. Yes, definitely he would. Guitar. Yeah, this next bit of news is considered spoilery, Mason.

So if you don't want to know, you need to leave the room. I'm going to. Yeah. So it's about Avengers and Civil War. So if you don't want to know anything about it. Is this actual spoiler or is it speculation spoiler? It's pretty much confirmed. It's a cast member that's returning.

Oh. So yeah, if you don't want to know what happens, basically. But I'm going to tell you. Great. All right, we'll tune out for a minute if you don't want to know this. Jeremy Renner is going to be in Civil War, apparently. So he's not going to die in Age of Ultron. There we go.

Spoiler alert, he's not going to die. Yeah. I mean, it hasn't been confirmed but the Hollywood Reporter did it and apparently it's pretty much a lock but he might be back in flashback

in Civil War oh yeah good point to be like remember the time Hawkeye died and they all stop and think about it

yeah yeah yeah we do remember that yeah that's right yeah I should have bought more arrows but yeah great the more people in Civil War

a wonderful man he played Jason Bourne he was the next Jason Bourne I don't know he was Arad Cross I don't know what his name was but yeah he was the dick he had i didn't see it but my brother saw it and he said he takes pills and he makes him smart he's got it's like the limitless okay yeah wow it's like the limitless it's like that that's a boardroom meeting where they're like you know what people loved limitless and people like just let it go

gary nobody liked limitless how about we how about we combine it with born identity meeting where they're like, you know what people loved? Limitless. And people are like, just let it go, Gary. Nobody liked Limitless. I liked Limitless. How about we combine it with Bourne Identity? Isn't that done? Come on. I'm Gary. I'm Gary. We know Gary.

We know who you are. You work here. Yeah, great. More the better in Civil War, I think. I want to see, as I've said before, I want to see him do something good, something cool. Yep. And yeah, so if he's in it, great. What about Shooter and Arrow? Yeah, that'd be good too. That'd something good, something cool. Yep. And yeah, so if he's in it, great. What about shoot an arrow?

Yeah, that'd be good too. That'd be good, right? Yeah. Can you imagine? Yeah. He's got that, you've seen in the trailer, which we'll talk about in a bit. He's got a device that shoots nine arrows at once. Oh, is that what that is?

Yeah. I thought it was just like, so he could have multiple arrows, but apparently he couldn't shoot nine because I saw a behind the scenes thing. But it was like, entertainment tonight's taking you behind the scenes. We're a pack of dickheads, you know? Yeah, yeah. Do you remember when you used to, I used to watch entertainment tonight

when I was like in my teens because I'm like, I have to watch this. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm like, I hate this. I hate it so much. And it was that tease of like, after the break, we're going to show you the blah, blah, blah. And then it wasn't after that break.

It was actually after the next break. And there'd be like a quiz. It's like, which celebrity's birthday is today? It's like, I don't care. I don't care. Show me Phantom Menace trailer, please. Anyway, but we saw that trailer. Yeah, but now you'd be wishing for some celebrity birthdays.

You're goddamn right. Yeah. Anyway, great. I hate entertainment. That being said, I'll be happy to work there. Give me a job. All right. So Drew Goddard, apparently, who directed Cabin in the Woods,

does some Joss Whedon stuff, great writer. He worked on Buffy and Angel and a bunch of stuff. He was going to showrunner Daredevil, but he went to Sony to do the new Sinister Six movie. But it's said now that he's going to do Spider-Man and write and direct Spider-Man. Spider-Man, new Spider-Man. Spider-Man, new Spider-Man. Spider-Man, new Spider-Man.

Great. Yeah. I think that's a good choice. Sure. Yeah. Has he said what direction he's going to take that in? He said Spider-Man. He yelled that like eight times and then he leapt out a window.

So he's dead. So reboot. Yes. So it's going to be a reboot. Definitely. Without a doubt. So yeah. But they've also talked about the rumor is that maybe the first one will be a Sinister

Six movie with Spider-Man in it. Sure, yeah. Which would be cool. But do you open with that? What you open with is his parents are somehow responsible for the forming of the Sinister Six and a really boring backstory. Yeah, that'd be pretty good. And it's his destiny to be Spider-Man to defeat the Sinister Six.

And then he does? Yeah. Okay. Jamie Foxx back? No. Oh. No. All right.

No. Or Jamie Foxx back? No Oh No No Or Jamie Foxx back as both his parents Okay sure Nutty Professor Stone Oh I was going to say Norbert But yeah That's probably a better example of that Yeah

Great good He's good I think he's only directed one movie But I have a lot of faith in that guy Okay And also if they give him creative control Great I'd rather a singular vision and it's bad

Than a mess. So, whatever. Moving along, Mason. Did you know Juan wrote in? Okay. I didn't know that, but great. It's his seventh or eighth attempt to get a shout out. So, well done, Juan.

You did it. Or did he? Let's see what the letter's about. Oh, yeah. Let's stop here. No, he goes, there's some Fishmunion news, by the way. This is also considered a spoiler. So, if you care about gotham for some reason skip it all right i if you care about the tv series gotham and b if you care about gotham do you care about the very

irritating character they've invented for gotham fish muni yeah but uh we did we had this conversation off air where they did an they did an ad for the new character who's going to be the Joker. And they're like, you love all the villains on Gotham. You've seen them. Fish Mooney. And then the actual villains, Penguin and Riddler and whatever. It's like, you don't open with Fish Mooney. You don't even bring it up.

Come on, Gary. But get it together, Gary. He's making so many poor decisions creatively. Yeah, but it's Hollywood. You fall upwards. You too, don't you? God. Anyway, Fish Mooney news.

Yeah, well, Fish Mooney, again, spoiler alert, will leave after this season. Obviously she will. Which you called. I called it. I called it right at the start. Yeah, you did. She's there.

She exists as a pun when she's killed. Yes. When the penguin eats her or whatever. I would love to see that. I'm wrapping that up from metaphorically kills her and then they're like, the penguin ate the fish, or the fish has been killed. Or fed to the penguin or whatever.

Yeah, or fed the fish to the penguin or whatever. It's going to be the penguin literally eats her. Just like a sardine dips her into his mouth. Yeah. No, no. Or like a bucket of fish chum and that, like that a penguin would eat, they just throw it at him. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. Or like a bucket of like, you know, like fish chum and that, like that a penguin would eat. They just throw it at him.

Yeah. Yeah. That one. I think I heard Kevin Smith say they should really just call that show Penguin. They probably should. They should, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

There's not a lot of Jim Gordon in it, is there? I guess so. Just make it about Bullock. That's what I want to say. I've said Bullock and Alfred team up. Yes. But I haven't watched,

since the mid-season hiatus, I haven't watched an episode. Has he gotten, has Gotham, I was going to, has Gotham. Has Gotham. I'm calling Jim Gordon Gotham now.

Has Jim Gordon gotten out of being an Arkham security guard? Yeah, it was, I think, like three weeks, which is what we said, yeah. It was an episode where he was a guard and then he solved a crime

and then the next episode he was back. All right. And that was that. And it's again, like in the previous first half of the season. Yeah. Remember all the cops just let like a mass murderer into the building to kill him? I do remember that.

And then the next episode they're like, don't even mention it. Yeah. So were they like, oh, sorry, we bumped you down to Arkham Prison Guard. Just come back in. It's fine. Yeah. We're sorry we abandoned you to your death. But yeah.

You know what? It's an okay show. And at the moment, Fish Mooney's actually got an interesting story arc relatively to what she has been doing. All right, sure. Which is like mincing around a club. So are you going to miss her when she's gone? No.

Absolutely not. Moving on. so are you gonna miss her when she's gone no absolutely not moving on but yeah she's doing in a human trafficking kind of um storyline at the moment and the last episode had some of the worst cgi i've ever seen in my life what did they say g.i can you say you had a guy's head onto a female's body there is context behind that no i don't need it but yeah great whatever yeah supergirl news though yep oh yeah more tv news the costume we've seen the costume what do you think looks good i like it a lot yeah yeah it's not weird technicolor ridiculous it's not spandexy yep uh-huh it's not like too sexualized or whatever they haven't done

a new take on it like we're like with the wonder woman pilot that never eventuated you know what seeing her in because the woman who was going to be wonder woman seeing her in um agents of shield yep she's she's quite good yeah she'd be a good wonder woman like and i think she's probably maybe she was a bit young then maybe that's why people but she's really good no the the wonder woman pilot didn't work because it made no sense. No, yeah, yeah. And she had three identities. Yes, what was it? Diana Prince. She was a CEO of a company.

She was a CEO of a company, Diana Prince. She was like a haughty kind of president of this company. Yeah, and she was Wonder Woman. But she was also like, I'm just a regular girl living in an apartment. She was her own assistant or something? Something like that. But yeah, it was just, I think they built the, she's the CEO of the company and she's Wonder Woman first.

Yeah. And then they're like, well, maybe real women can't relate to this. So we'll just make her a regular girl just sitting on the couch in an ice cream. People are going to relate to that. Garbage. Garbage. Liz Hurley was the bad guy. Yeah, I remember.

Yeah. You watched that, didn't you? Yeah. What was it like? No good. Like on any level? Yeah. All right right could she fly no but she had a sort of invisible jet to find what what do you mean i can't remember so you could i don't think the effects were finished yeah sure yeah well there you go anyway supergirl costume i i think it's really well cast i think she looks great

so and so that's not okay so that's that's her and that's the costume so that's not and it's good that they they've gone okay it's a show about supergirl let's have supergirl yeah let's not mess about let's not for 10 years before we put her in the costume because that's what i don't understand why they think that people want to see that like i know smallville did well because it was the only one that was kind of the only kind of superhero show. Yeah. At the time. I'm sure there are others, but just give us the superheroes.

Absolutely. Come on. Yeah. And Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. now is getting better because they're like, oh, wait, we can put superpowered people in. Yeah, you can. Yeah. It doesn't have to be guys at a plane standing around, like having boring conversation, which

anyway, whatever. Supergirl, I hope it's good. Me too me too yeah i hope they nail that flying effect yeah we don't know any context about the show they're doing yeah a little bit uh do we know she's been at earth i think for a while so she's still kind of adjusting and right and this is this is a superman free universe no no he's in it but we're not going to see him apparently yeah great he's knocking down buildings no he's um i i don't know it's not it wouldn't be the same universe as man of steel but i think we talked about it like they hired an actor to kind of stand in for superman but you don't see who it is or whatever so you could say maybe it is the man of steel universe

or whatever ah sure clearly clearly not but that's that costume is great and i'm i'm glad um but no sorry it looks i feel it looks a lot better than say the flash costume yeah i reckon whatever. Ah, sure. Clearly, clearly not, but that's, that costume is great. And I'm, I'm, I'm glad. Um, but no, sorry. It looks, I feel it looks a lot better than say the flash costume. Yeah. I reckon it's a step forward again.

I agree. The flash costume is a little bit odd. I'm kind of used to it now, but yeah, yeah, you shouldn't be. The head, the head is good of the flash costume.

Yeah. But yeah, I don't like the suit as much, but I think this one is excellent. Yeah. Cool. Anyway, why I wanted to know is Gotham good.

I stopped watching after episode two. Is that me? Is one me from the future? One is you from is excellent. Yeah. Cool. Anyway, Juan wanted to know, is Gotham good? I stopped watching after episode two. Is that me? Is Juan me from the future? Juan is you from the future. Yes. Great. In summary, it's okay. Fantastic.

And there are some good episodes and some of it is really well cast and some of it isn't. But Juan, if you love Fish Mooney, and I know you do because you're me from the future, you've had a change of heart again for some reason,

be prepared for disappointment because she's out. Yeah, yeah. All right. We also got an email from Gonzalo at Bats and Burpees on Twitter. A Marvel cinema chain in the US is doing a Marvel movie marathon. Oh, yeah, 25 hours or something. Yeah, exactly. It goes from 6 p.m. till 7 p.m. ending with the Age of Ultron.

So it goes to about 9.30 at night, I guess. He wants to know, could you two sit through this? No. Straight up, no. No, I wouldn't do it. I couldn't. I don't want to sit through all of those either. Yeah, because it's not just Marvel Studios.

That'd have to be all of them, right? No, no. It's Iron Man, Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor, First Avenger, Avengers, Iron Man 3, Dark World, Winter Soldier, Guardians, Age of Ultron. It's all of them. It's all the MCU ones. Right, okaycu ones right okay yeah oh yeah i forgot that movies are two hours long yes yeah great also it's got brackets here for age of ultron it's in 3d so no i'm definitely i'm not sticking around yeah no you know what i'd pay the price if it was an early showing i'd pay the price and i'd turn up for the last one yeah fair enough fair enough. Yeah. Maybe I'd go for Guardians of the Galaxy.

How much money would you want to stick through all the non-Marvel Studios movies? Like Wolverine Origins. Fantastic Four. Fantastic Four 2. Like you'd pay me money. I'd pay you money. $10,000. Wow.

All right. Hard bargain, but all right. That's fair. I would have also said $10,000. It's just a go-to number. Elektra. God. Ghost Rider 1 and 2. I haven't seen 2, so,000. This is the go-to number. Elektra. God. Ghost Rider 1 and 2.

I haven't seen 2, so that would be a new experience for me. That'd be fresh for you, yeah. I think that's one of the only comic book movies I haven't seen. Not like of the modern-ish kind of ones. Right, right, right, yeah. I'll get there. No, I won't. Yeah, but he also said,

what would be your strategy to endure this marathon? I'd get to bring a cushion. You can't sit for that long. You'd be in incredible pain. No, I'd nod off i think yeah what i would do is i'd go to the box office and say when specifically are all the movies starting yeah and then i would just get naps in i'd bring a sleeping bag and a pillow i think you're right lie on that dirty cinema floor headphones with some non-superhero based music

or podcast or something like that and just nod offer a couple of hours you know what you could listen to what's that the weekly planet podcast oh no thank you so yeah that's weird accents boy is it yeah no that that to me is a nightmare yeah and i don't want no part of it but look if that was any string of movies yeah definitely no yeah no 25 hours painful maybe if i live next door to the cinema. Yeah, I guess so. I could go home periodically and come back. That'd be nice. Yeah, it'd be great.

Yeah, but speaking of the Avengers. Oh, yes. There was a new Age of Ultron trailer this week. I saw it. And I'm going to talk about four things you missed, Mason. Oh, no. Those are stressful to make those videos, though. I'll tell you why.

Because you have to weigh up. Yeah. And look, a lot of why. Because you have to weigh up. Yeah. And look, a lot of the stuff will turn out to be wrong, so I'm going to get attacked when it finishes, which is fine. But yeah, you've got to find stuff, I guess, which other people might not necessarily think of. And you've got to do them quickly. But you know what?

You do it. I do it because I'm a great person. You nail it every time. Yeah. Great and modest. Yeah. So what did we miss? I don't know. B You do it. I do it because I'm a great person. You nail it every time. Yeah. Great and modest. Yeah. So what did we miss? I don't know.

Bits and pieces. Great. Did we miss the vision at the end? No, obviously not. Did you miss that? No, because I mentioned it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Yeah, well, look, let's talk about it. We saw more Ultron. Yep, we did. He's looking pretty good, isn't he? Yeah, yeah. You remember that Entertainment Weekly poster we saw? It had a very different looking Ultron on the front that must be one of his forms

I don't know which form right okay I think maybe they've just tweaked it since okay yeah I'm sure they've done I'm sure they've done focus grouping

and they're like does he seem threatening yeah and they're like maybe make the eyebrows more waggly and they're like okay give him teeth

give him teeth yep yeah sure but it's good I'm looking forward to seeing that I don't think we've had a really good Marvel villain in a while no, sure. But it's good. I'm looking forward to seeing that. I don't think we've had a very, really good Marvel villain in a while.

No. One that's kind of stood out. So I'm hoping he's... We see a new Iron Man suit, not just the Hulkbuster. It looks very much like the Mark 42 from Iron Man 3, but more red parts than gold.

No, but there's another, another one that you also see. I can show you a clip, but Jonathan Booze has written it in. The Booze? The Booze. He said it looks like the bleeding edge armor. Jonathan is also doing a thing upcoming, which can't I don't want to spoil because the person who's doing it with

might hear this so good luck great thing great but yeah no for a while he had like uh after he had the extremist armor he had like a liquid metal suit yeah bleeding edge model which I I'm sure won't be that no I'm not saying that but he's like the design looks like it looks like I'll find you a picture. Okay, cool. Like, I mean, for Iron Man 3 they had the extremist arm which was basically just

an excuse for gags about him being hit in the balls. That was essentially all that was. What great gags though. I'll tell you what. Yeah, so good. You get hit right in the balls. That's why I liked that movie.

Yeah, it was great. We saw more of the Hulkbuster the punch up the building. That was pretty good, wasn't it? Great. Yeah, it's kind of like the opposite of what is it called? What's that movie. Yeah, it was great. We saw more of the Hulkbuster, the punch up the building. That was pretty good, wasn't it? Great. Yeah, it's kind of like the opposite of, what is it called? What's that movie called? The other one.

The Avengers, where the Hulk catches him sliding over the building. Oh yeah, sure, yeah. It's like the reverse of that. I can't find this thing. Hang on, what I'll do. Yes. I'm going to play my video because I know it's in there. Oh yeah.

And you can watch the whole video. Ugh. Ugh. So the third Avengers. God. Oh, it's me talking. It's me, James. It's it's mr sunday movies i have the worst voice i know i'm aware i'm well aware here we go there okay let's have a look i want that back forever yep looks good doesn't it i like it better than the other one

mostly red yeah pretty great yeah i don't know if I like all the gold. I'm okay with the Iron Man 3 suit, looks-wise, but that's definitely one of the better ones. It's got some Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in action. Yep. That was pretty good. Scarlet Witch clearly has some sort of... She has an assortment of vaguely defined powers.

Yeah, that's what I like. She can blast somebody into a wall. She can also mind control somebody. Red mist. Red mist, kind of. Right in your eyes. Yep, right in your eyes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We saw Quicksilver move and punch Captain America in the face. That was pretty good. That was pretty good. I think Scarlet Witch... How do you fight a guy like that? Captain America would just have to hit him really hard. Yeah, he can do that.

He's pretty good at that, I think. Scarlet Witch, she sort of... When she hexes people, they get the red eye. Yeah. Which I think explains why Hulk'ses people they get the red eye. Yeah. Which I think explains why Hulk's going crazy because he goes red eye.

Yeah, he does. Putting that red eye flight, mate. Yeah, mate. It's exhausting. Yeah, people are wondering where the Quicksilver makes it through because there's a scene

at the end of the trailer where they're defending something and they're in a circle. That's odd. They should be avenging something. That's what I think. Yeah. And you don't see Quicksilver there.

So whether he doesn't change sides. Well, they are contractually obliged to be in every scene altogether unless they die that that would be quite good if they killed off quicksilver let's be like a slap in the face to the x-men universe to be like we don't even need him right yeah that's true actually yeah yeah yeah but it'd be weird to add only two new characters and then kill and then kill one yeah you're right yeah sorry the vision who the flash oh yes i understand yeah joss whedon has said or people Two new characters. And then kill one. And then kill one of them. Yeah, you're right. It's a rave division. Who? The Flash. Oh, yes. I understand.

Joss Whedon has said, or people have said, that the finale is also they're going to fight a whole bunch of Ultron bots, which it looks like they're doing. Yep. I don't think that's the finale. I think that's a fake out. Oh, really? I don't think he's too smart for that.

Well, that would be exactly the same as the Avengers. Exactly. Yeah. I'm not saying that won't happen. Or even if it does happen, it's not going to be the way that we saw it. Right. And maybe they'll lose or I don't know. Yeah. Maybe they'll win.

Maybe there'll be a dance elf. I would love that. Yeah. To Thriller. It'd be Thriller, right? Because there's enough people. I think there's enough for Thriller. In your game, we've got more Tony Stark kind of blaming himself for Ultron, which is fair

because he did do that. Definitely made that, yeah. I know people, I still get comments on my videos that are like, you idiot, Tony Stark didn't make Ultron. Like, I know. Like, in this movie,

I'm sorry, I'm not. You should be sorry. But yeah, I think it was a good choice making Tony Stark. It makes total sense that he would make Ultron, this version of him.

It's totally fine to do that. Who else is going to make it in this universe? Yeah, introduce Ant-Man and be like, by the way, he's a monster. Or just interview, oh, there's this new computer scientist. Oh, I'd make AI and it's killing everyone. I'm sorry. Come on, Gary. For God's sakes, Gary.

Put your head in, mate. Will this affect my chances of being in the tape? Yeah. But yeah, also, we've got him, like, he was going to make the Vision or have some hand in it. Or maybe Ultron makes Vision as an ally or whatever. Yeah. Yeah.

What else do we see in that trailer? Yeah. There's a gem in Ultron's head, right? Right. And in the comics, that's a solar gem. Correct. Where he basically gets all his power from. It's basically what Superman does, but it's in a gem.

I speculated, and other people also speculated, that maybe it's the soul gem. Thor goes off world and gets it. And again, I've got people like, you're an idiot! I'm like, yeah, I don't know for a fact. But I think you could introduce a gem that way, obviously. I guess you could, and you could say, well, that's the reason why the Vision is not evil or whatever, is because he has the soul gem. I guess so.

But then how do you... Get Thanos to get it? Well, yeah, but also how does the Vision operate in maybe Infinity War? If you take the gem out and he... Well, maybe he doesn't need it at that point. Oh, I see. I don't know. It's like the ruby red slippers.

It's exactly like that. Yeah. Or that feather that Dumbo had that made him fly. It's exactly like the feather that Dumbo had. That those racist crows tried to kill. It's like the little wings on Sub-Mariner's feet. He doesn't need them. Yes, it is like that.

Yeah, I think that would be a good way to introduce it. I'm not saying they will do that, but I'm like nothing. I see people as well arguing like that's not the origin of it, like arguing with each other in the comics. They change things all the time. And it would just simplify the universe if they just did it yeah they're like no it's a solar gem because he's probably you could just be powered by an arc reactor he doesn't need to have a solar gem that's true like it but anyway

yeah well arc reactor technology unless he's like you know ultron's putting him together or whatever and he's like i'll put in the arc reactor and then jarvis is like oh i actually remember when tony stark blew up all those suits. I would maybe like to not have one of those in me, if you wouldn't mind. That'd be just swell. But what do you think of the look of him? We only see his face.

A lot of that's obviously CGI. Looks good. Got some texture. Got some texture. Got some camera kind of lens eyes. Again, if you tried to make that, yeah, the camera lens eyes look really good. I think if you tried to do that a few years ago, the camera lens eyes look really good. Yeah. I think if you tried to do that a few years ago,

it would look utterly ridiculous, especially with the colour scheme. Yeah. But things have moved on and he looks good, I think. He does, yeah. I mean, we haven't seen the full... We haven't. That might look dumb.

...reading of motion, yeah. But no, I think it'll be good. I like the idea. I liked it because they were talking about maybe doing a robot face. They weren't sure what direction it was going. Right, right, right. I like they've kept mostly the human elements of it.

Yeah. Like he's... Yeah, I think that's going to... Yeah, because this is basically a whole new concept for yeah for gary gary yeah exactly are we getting a return of um what's his face tv tv chest guy i hope so doctor what's his face dr tv face yeah dr tv crank dot crank the other one name's right on the tip of my tongue oh bloody he's ola yeah adam's ola yeah i hope so yeah yeah i, but. No, but that'd be nice. Yeah, it'd be cool.

He's probably going to be in Civil War. No, wait, he died. Did he? Well, he did, but I mean. You could fit him on a flash drive. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, you could say, you know, that they'd hydra-backed him up already. Because there was the, like, or you could even say that while he was talking to Black

Widow and Captain America, he was installing himself on their flash drive or whatever. And then when the building was blown up, that was the only thing left. And Hydra's just like, good, backed up. We need this guy. We need this guy. We need this guy to act smug and then be destroyed repeatedly. Yeah, he's good.

Because he made a return in Agent Carter. Agent Carter, yeah. Did you finish watching that? I'm on my way. Yeah, it's good. I he made a return in Agents of... Agent Carter. Agent Carter, yeah. Did you finish watching that? I'm on my way. Yeah, it's good. I'm glad it was eight episodes. Do you think it's coming back? Yeah, I reckon it will.

Okay, all right. It's... I think... I don't know. You would. If Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. comes back... Yeah, this one does now. There's no justice.

Yeah. We see Captain Eureka losing his shield. Yeah, that was good. Which is amazing that that's the first time. I mean, I guess technically it happened at the end of Winter Soldier. Oh, yeah. But he dropped that. Yeah.

But I'm saying, like, there should be extended cuts of every movie with Captain America in them where he just drops the shield and there's a long extended bit where he has to go get it back. And it's over a fence. Yeah, it's over a fence. Or he has to climb through a hedge. Yeah, he has to ask, like,. And it's over a fence. Yeah, it's over a fence. Or he has to climb through a hedge or something. Yeah, he has to ask the angry guy who owns the house. Come on, hey, man. Hey, mister.

Get the shield back. Yeah. But we do see it run into Ultron. Yeah, it goes through him. Which makes me wonder, is that his final form? Right. Where he's Vibranium? Yep.

Or is that Vibranium piercing Vibranium? Yeah. I guess Vibranium can pierce Vibranium. If it's sharp enough. If it's sharp enough. Yeah. But is that vibranium piercing of vibranium yeah I guess a vibranium can pierce a vibranium if it's sharp enough if it's sharp enough yeah but is that even

a sharp shield like it's well again it's comic book science it's sharp when you need it to be sharp and if you need to catch it on bite

on its edge yeah with your bare hand you can do that yeah it's not just gonna cut right through you yeah

yeah that's I love that shield yeah it's good right and they've recoloured it again and whatever. So, you know in Iron Man 2... Seen that movie?

When Tony Stark, like, he just props up... That shield, yeah. He just props something up on, like, a half-built Captain America shield. Yeah. That was just something he was building in his spare time, I guess. I assume so. Or it was something that his dad had or whatever. Right, it was a prototype or something.

Yeah, because, you know, there may be in that universe a Captain America that they used. Yeah, there might have been like a 1950s Captain America or whatever, yeah. Because there was in the comics. Yeah, yeah, totally, yeah. He went insane or whatever. Correct. But he wasn't the one who turned into a werewolf to his credit. No, that's true, yes.

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I've been pretty good. I try not to drink as much. Great. Yeah. I get so much more done, you know? And you're so much less bloated. You're somewhat less bloated. Thank you.

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Like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause, causing the risk of heart disease to go up. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. But yeah, look, comic book weapons though. Oh, yes. somebody wrote in and said this a while back i can't remember who i might be able to find it or i might not be able to find it that's that's one of those things you know oh yeah yeah uh navid k yes he recommended this a while back best and worst comic book weapons oh yes we can do that uh yeah we it's it's it'll be us listing things yeah people love or hate that

I don't know just to say you normally say they love it but I don't think we've ever we've never had an objective test of any kind

this is probably something we should have organised and thrown it out there to people that people could have written it and recommended some of their own

and whatever nah we'll cover them all we'll cover literally all of them I don't think we've ever missed anything have we no we've never missed anything and also we? No, we've never missed anything.

And also, we can always do part two. Exactly. When this is a roaring success, this thing that we pull out of our ass right now, then we do a part two. And the people are like, pull more stuff out of your ass. Yeah, like a wizard's scarf. Keep pulling. Like a wizard pulling so many scarves.

Out of an ass. Oh, yeah. Great. Well, yeah. Great. Well, why don't we start with Captain America's shield then? Again, I think we should rate them on comic book science. Okay. Like how, if you built one in real life. How would it function?

How would it function? Would it help you in any way? It would stop you getting shot. Yeah. Sometimes. In the chest area. Yeah. It wouldn't stop you getting shot in the legs.. In the chest area or where you happen to... It wouldn't stop you getting shot in the legs.

No. Or the top of the head, usually. Are we talking unbreakable metal if it's real? Yeah, I think so, yeah. Also, you throw it and you're not getting that back. Exactly. It's never coming back. It goes into a river, it's gone.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I think in the past he's had like... I'm sure there's been like versions and it's got like a... He's got like a magnetic thing on his wrist and there's a magnetic thing in the shield and it comes back to him. And now they just don't really do that. They haven't ever, I mean, in the comics it's like he's got perfect aim and balance

and that's why he can do it. And it's aerodynamic. Aerodynamic and it's, which again doesn't make any sense. In the movies, they don't explain it at all. They never explain it. But why would you though? No, exactly. There should be a scene in the first one

where he's got the incredible powers or whatever and they're like, and use this shield. And he's like, and there's just like a solid 10 seconds of silence where he's like, I'm in the army. I should agree with this,

but I don't understand on any level what he's talking about. He's just like, okay. Can I have a bigger shield? Yeah. I mean, in the first one, he just essentially bashes people with about. He's just like, okay. Can I have a bigger shield? Yeah. I mean, in the first one,

he just essentially bashes people with it. He does. I think they, you know, there's no logical physics in the second one, in the second Captain America movie,

but it does, like it's, it looks great. It does. Like he'll hurl it and it's got, it's got a great noise. It's got a great noise

and it's got a great, like it moves like a heavy object that is somehow aerodynamic. Yeah. It's got a great kind of glide to it. It's got a great clunk. It's got a great noise and it's got a great like it moves like a heavy object that is somehow aerodynamic yeah it's got a great kind of glide to it's got a great clunk it's got a great clunk when it hits a man in the head absolutely yeah yeah and you know what it's the great it's the perfect counterpoint to bucky's arm right okay which is another i guess that's a weapon in a way no it's a weapon in the sense you could shoot off and strangle a man oh yeah you're telling me that's not a weapon you're living You're limited to fantasy world. I'm sorry.

I'm so sorry. But yeah, that shield is great. Look, it doesn't make sense, but that's one of my favourite weapons. Yeah, but I'm glad they're finally doing a scene in Age of Ultron where Black Widow's like, oh, I'll get it. Yeah. Because if she wasn't on the team,

he loses that shield, it falls off the truck, and he's like, oh. I'm dead. I'm definitely dead now. I rely on that a lot for not getting shot in the chest and most of my head. That scene looks great. It reminds me of the Agent Smith scene in Matrix 2. Right.

No, it's not Agent Smith. Morpheus fights an agent on top of a truck. Right. And he's severely outclassed. Sure. That to me smacks of that because he should not go one-to-one with Ultron. No. Yeah.

Absolutely not. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Someone also tweeted at me, and I'm sorry I forgot, the look on Ultron's face when he gets hit. Yeah. It's just like, are you serious? That's got that kind of look. Right, right, right.

Just like disbelief and like he's offended. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great. You got another comic book weapon? How about Daredevil's Billy Club? Oh, that's a good one. It's a good one, right? Yeah.

Again, the same doesn't make sense. No, right. Oh, real world relatability Captain America's shield. Yeah. One. I'm going to say, oh, you know what? I think if you had that and a gun. Yeah, which he used to have at times.

Yeah, he used to. He'd have a gun. Yeah. Okay. But I think people also got that and a gun. Yeah, which he used to have at times. He'd have a gun, yeah. But I think people also got upset with that trailer. There's a bit where Captain America doesn't save someone and he kills someone. He just falls off a bridge.

But he can't save everybody and he does kill. Yeah. He's allowed to do that. He didn't... The problem with Batman is... What he should have done is put a round in him before that dude hits the ground. Just be like, Well, this will hurt less than you hit the ground.

Bang. That would be amazing. And another one in your dog. Have we ever talked about The Mist? Yeah, we have, but I'm happy to talk about The Mist again. The Thomas Jane film The Mist. Well, it's a Stephen King film. I like that movie a lot.

Right, but it's a mainstream Hollywood kind of pseudo-horror film. Yeah. But it's most horrific right at the end. I think there are two different kind of horror genres. There's one where there's the horrible, horrific tentacle monsters or whatever. Yeah. And there's psychological horror movies where a gang of people just show up and murder somebody's family. Sure.

And that's horrific in that way. Absolutely. But this one, you go in expecting tentacle monster horror, and you get that. Sure. But you also get the kind of the horrific murdered family. Because in it, like... Spoiler alert, I guess.

Spoiler over the mist. Or if you haven't seen it, but you listened to the last episode where we talked about this. Like, it's the Stephen King horror movie where he's like an artist in new England. Yeah. Cause they're always that that's the main character. And then a mist rolls in and then it turns out in the mist is like dimensional. It's a dimension.

Like there was a dimensional gate and it's filled with like giant tentacle monsters and like giant Goliath elephant monsters and like giant stingy monsters or whatever. And everybody in the town gets killed. And in the third act, it's just Thomas Jane and the attractive late middle-aged single mum and her kid who's like 10 or something. It's his kid.

It's his kid? Yeah, it's his kid. I didn't pay attention to this film. You did at this bit. Yeah, boy, did I. And anyway, so they get in a car. They're like one of the people bunch of people to live and they just they're like we'll just drive out of town on this one road where we can see a foot in front of ourselves and we'll just go until we

escape the mist yeah and then they they drive and drive and they run out of gas yeah they just have to pull over the side but they don't run out of mist they do not run out of mist the mist is still there and it's still thick and they can still see only a foot in front of them yeah and they hear like this rumbling behind them like oh it's the monsters they're coming and we're gonna be killed or whatever we're gonna be horribly torn to pieces and then thomas jane has a gun with two bullets in it and he sort of looks over at the the love interest yeah and they sort of like yeah we know we know what we we need to do yeah And then it cuts to the outside of the minivan or whatever it is. And you just see two gunshots.

And then it cuts back to Thomas J. And he's like, because he's killed the woman and the kid. He's kid. He's kid. And he's a very likable kid as well. Yeah. Okay. Right.

Yeah. And then, yeah, because I know that. Not because I remember the movie that well specifically because I don't remember feeling a palpable joy when he kills the kid, which is how I would normally feel about most kids in movies. Sure, yeah. And then, like, he gets out of the car.

He's like, I'm going to face my death from these horrible tentacle monsters. It's all I deserve kind of thing. And then it turns out the rumbling was tanks because, like, the National Guard has come in. And the mist rolls away. The mist rolls away. And it turns out they were travelling with it, I guess.

Something like that. Yeah, exactly. Like if you'd waited another 10 minutes. Yeah, not even. Yeah, two minutes. That really surprised me. I was like, wow, well done. I remember I showed somebody that movie

and I told them the ending a while back and I'm like, this is fucked up. And then they'd forgotten. And then they got to that bit and they're like, oh my God, this is that movie you're talking about no anyway

what were we talking about we got one weapon in and then you said billy club and then we went and then we talked about the mist for 10 minutes oh yeah

okay right deadevils billy club oh that's right real life relatability deadevils billy club it works in a similar way as captain breakers shield because he's got perfect aim

and precision yeah exactly that kind of makes more's Shield because he's got perfect aim and precision that kind of makes more sense because he's got such awareness of his surroundings that he could bring it back to him and also functions kind of like a rope that he can swing around

yeah it's a billy club it's got like a like a grappling hook in it he can sort of break it into nunchucks he can break it into two

and just hit you with it just hit you with it exactly yeah it's his walking stick and he can take the end off he can take the curvy into two and he's hit you with it. He's hit you with it exactly yeah it's his walking stick and he can take the end off he can take the curvy bit off and

then It was pretty well represented in the movie actually. Yeah it was there was that scene where Joey Pants Joe Pantoliano and

Kevin Smith Jay Pants Yeah Jay Pants and Kevin Smith God I was going to say Jay Pants and Kay Jorts

because he wears jorts all the time Very good and they sort of break it apart. And Kevin Smith's like, how cool is this? And it ka-ching. It's a very satisfying looking weapon. It is, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's also, sometimes it's gas powered, sometimes it isn't. In the comic? Yeah, sometimes it's like a powered grappling hook, sometimes it's not. Like spring loaded or whatever. Yeah, sometimes you can fire tranquilizer darts at it, but sometimes you can't.

Look, here's a diagram. Back in the day, you'd go to your Marvel I'll just look this up you can get your index of the Marvel Universe whatever and there'd always be

a diagram of like Daredevil's Billy Club or like Spider-Man's web shooters or whatever look at that how good's that that is good looks like a candy cane

it's a bit short isn't it it's a little bit short exactly it's about a foot long looks like about a foot look it's not to scale I assume but also this page also contains Daredevil's apartment It's a little bit short, exactly. It's about a foot long. Looks like a bit out of foot. Look, it's not to scale, I assume.

But also, this page also contains Daredevil's apartment. Just a layout of his apartment. How many stories is that? Five. Four. I thought he wasn't supposed to be rich. No, I think he's... He's getting paid in fish. He's always getting...

How can I run my law firm? Look, it's leased. It actually says it's leased. That is specific. Yeah, right, right. I have a lot of love for Daredevil. It's good, right? I'm really looking forward to it.

It's only three stories. I'm sorry. Okay. That's still quite good for a New York apartment. Two guest bedrooms. I guess it's hell. La-dee-da. I get la-dee-da for when two members of the bloody Defenders show up or something.

It's, what is it? It's Hell's Kitchen, so it probably wouldn't have been that expensive. Rent's probably pretty low, yeah. That would be. Apparently, it's quite nice. Yeah. What about real world applications? Look, I think we kind of have to dismiss grappling hooks as a whole.

Okay. Yeah, you're right. I mean- Have you ever seen a functioning one? No. And I mean, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And you're going to throw your back out.

Yeah. First run out. Yeah. You can't be grappling hooking all night, can you? No, certainly not. Yeah. Not all night. Bloody oath. And then you've got to wind it back up. Yeah. You can't be grappling hooking all night, can you? No, certainly not. Yeah. Not all night. Bloody oath.

And then you've got to wind it back up. Yeah. You've never seen him wind it back up, have you? No, that's right. Yeah. I guess Batman's got a pretty great grappling gun, doesn't he? Yeah, I guess. But yeah, it's a similar kind of.

He never really, he generally doesn't miss, does he? A lot of time he'll shoot it, he'll hook onto something, and then someone will either cut it or the gargoyle will break it's attached to and he'll like thud into an alley like that happens quite a lot that's quite frequent he's not very good at that yeah and but it is a grappling hook is quite good for like looping around the leg of a supervillain as he tries to escape by a helicopter yeah and then he's then he's horribly killed that's an a1 application that is one of the best i think yeah but when i was a kid i did love love, like, again, all these diagrams.

I loved it. Like, I got all the official handbooks of the Marvel Universe. You're a nerd, Mason. I know. And I would be like, oh, that grappling hook. Look at all its functionality. Oh, look at that apartment. Oh, look at how many guest bedrooms he has.

Oh, so great. I feel like as well, like, the grappling hook also, I don't think anyone's really ever used it as a lethal weapon. You shoot someone in the face with a grappling hook, you're probably going to kill them. Yeah, definitely. Like from up close. Okay, so real world usability, 10 out of 10 for killing a man.

Yeah, I remember on Mythbusters, they made the Batman 89 car grappling hook where he turns the corner. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't work. You can't do it. How bad did they hurt themselves? I don't think that badly, unfortunately. Okay, right.

But yeah, they seemed like nice enough guys. Yeah, they seemed like nice. Well, one of them seems like a nice guy. Yeah. The other guy seems like a dick. Anyway. Yeah. Can't remember which one.

But would you count Wolverine's claws as a weapon? No. Why not? They're a flora. No, of course I would. Are you saying because we can't acquire them? No. Yeah.

No. Well, I guess because we can't acquire them no yeah no well i guess because we can't do like mutant powers but that's not a mutant power that's an app that's something that's added to him like cyclops for example yeah is that a weapon no but what about the thing on his head that he controls it with no that's a flora oh sorry it's a mineral actually yeah look no i would say look look, Wolverine's claws, because he's got the healing factor, otherwise. There's a very funny YouTube clip. Oh, wait, two guys have to choose between Wolverine's healing factor or his adamantium claws.

And they pick claws, yeah. And they horribly injure themselves. Yeah, it's pretty good. Those guys are good. Yeah, real-world application, zero. Correct. Skipping it. You would never, yeah, you would never use that.

But, you know what it's it's a very good idea like it's a unique idea wolverine's claws yeah and the whole thing the whole idea of him with the indestructible skeleton i feel like you can't really have something like that now because everything's been done like every comic book character is a variation on a previous comic book character a lot of them yeah yeah so so i don't know yeah i like it a lot yeah but at the same time you don't like it so skipping it yeah thank you do you like them in the movies do you think they're well represented yeah except origins obviously yeah yeah yeah they do change every like movie as well they slightly change in shape yeah and again in the in origins they're like we've got to make these

shiny and new and they just look like... Roger Rabbit. I was just going to say Roger Rabbit. They look exactly like they're his toon claws. Yeah. Yeah. Like when Judge Doom takes off his hands and he's got a buzzsaw or whatever. Why would you do that? Why wouldn't you just do what they've always done?

Just have him hold them. Because all you do is just have that... It's got a bar that he holds in his hands, and they connect to the claws that go through his fingers. Yeah. That is it. It's very easy to do. Come come on gary god's sake gary yeah get it together come on mate yeah um what about uh nightwing sticks they're kind of like daredevils that's a little daredevil they're great for beating people yeah you want to be good on both

i feel like yeah i like what are they called exma sticks yeah they're? Exma-sticks. Yeah, they're called Exma-sticks. Eskrima-sticks. Yeah, that's the one. Eskrimah? Yes. Exkrimant. Exkrimant sticks. But they're also electrified. Yeah, that's great. Black Widow seems to have a pair of them in the new Avengers.

They're so vague. Like what? Black Widow's gauntlet thingies. She had them in the first Avengers as well. The sticks? No, the lightning glove things. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they showed them in the post-credits sequence.

She never really uses them, though. Yeah. She adjusts them. No, she grabs a dude Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they showed him in the post-credits sequence. She never really uses them, though. Yeah. She adjusts them. No, she grabs a dude around the neck and does it. Oh, okay. Yeah, and zaps him. Great. He's like, I don't like this.

As he pees himself and dies. Oh, yeah. Totally, yeah. Great. I like Nightwing a lot. I think they're good weapons. I don't know. I feel like they suit him as a character.

I don't know. Because all the Robins have their own weapon. Like, Damian Wayne's got a sword. Yep. A little inappropriate. Yeah, Red Robin has a gun. Yep. Or not.

Red Hood, sorry. Yep. What about Batman's Batarangs? Yes, they're a classic, aren't they? It's probably his most well-known weapon. Do you think he should have moved on from the gun, is what I'm saying? Because when he started, he just had a gun. He had a gun and he had hanging people from his back.

Those were his two weapons. Those were his two weapons, right? Real world functionality, great. Yeah. I love any time that he just like someone reaches for something and he just embeds one in their hand. That is a classic move. I love it, yeah. That is true, yeah.

Yeah. Let's combine them all together. Any kind of thrown. Okay, sure. Robin's R. Robin's R, yeah. He's got the R's. Yeah, yeah. Give him the R's r he's got the r's yeah yeah

give him the r's he says give him the bloody r's anyone who's got like i think electra's got ninja stars and yeah totally a few people probably have them yeah i do love i'm a huge fan of nailing somebody's like hand to her in real life yeah definitely my brother once drilled through his thumb yeah i remember i remember that yeah great He's all right. Yeah, I know. Like any kind of, we'll probably talk about bows and arrows in a second. Yes. Do you remember that? There was a TV series, there was a BBC series or whatever, Robin Hood.

Remember that? Yeah. You know what I hate? If we're talking about comic book weapons, I hate it when somebody has a clearly lethal weapon. Yeah. Like that's their signature weapon, but they never use it to kill anyone. Yeah.

Except like in this one episode of Robin Hood. Like an incredibly contrived scenario where they're like, well, time to kill someone. And then it just. It'll shoot a bucket that's connected to a well, the rope, it'll hook around someone's leg and it will pull them up.

Right. Because there was a British, like the last, the last remake of Robin Hood. There's a TV series. It's just called Hood. Was it? Yeah,

probably. No, I don't know. But Robin Hood never There's a TV series. It's just called Hood. Was it? Yeah, probably. No, I don't know. But Robin Hood never killed anyone. No, but. Yeah, but it was never presented as a moral issue. It was never like, well, I don't kill because I'm better than whoever. And his arch nemesis was the Sheriff of Nottingham. Yeah.

Nottingham? Nottingham. As always. Nottingham. Thank you. And of course, he had so many opportunities to kill the Sheriff of Nottingham. Every time. Right, but it was always the classic nail their arm to the wall through their shirt sleeve or whatever.

Except there was one episode where somebody's like, some spy or whatever's like, I have the perfect opportunity. You can kill the Sheriff of Nottingham and all his deputies at this secret meeting they're having. And Robin Hood isn't like, no, I'm morally opposed to that. He's like, sure. Sweet. Sweet, let's do that. And then he shows up and they're all masked or whatever and he just, he jumps in and he shoots them all. Yeah. Like

through the heart or whatever. Yeah. And then it turns out they're all like straw filled dummies. Yeah, except the sheriff is wearing like a wooden board. Right, exactly. Like he didn't shoot him in the face. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. But like he's, it's, they've just contrived it. So he the one time he kills the one time he's like yeah let's actually do some killing yeah all circumstances have prevented

that and what's what's what i'm saying is you either you either make a batarang yeah you make it a non-lethal weapon that he can clang people on the head with which you'd probably still kill him yeah but especially if it hits them and then they hit a wall and then they fall off a bridge or whatever. Don't fall back on this. I'm not going to kill you, but I don't have to save you. You've killed him. He's fallen off a bridge.

Anyway, what I'm saying is you either make it non-lethal or you give them a lethal weapon and they kill people with it. Yeah, absolutely. More respect to Marvel, the movies, because, you know, okay, well, he'll kill a man. Yeah, that's good. I don't think we and they kill people with it. Yeah, absolutely. More respect to Marvel, the movies, because, you know, Hawkeye, well, he'll kill a man. Yeah, that's good. I don't think we've actually seen him do it.

He's killed aliens. He was prepared to kill everybody in the helicarrier. He was, that's true. He was prepared to kill Thor that time. No, he wasn't going to kill Thor. Really? No, I don't think so. I think he was going to wing him.

Well, even then, the thing, let's talk about bow and arrows. The thing about bow and arrows, first of all, incredibly ineffective weapon in the modern age. Ridiculous. Yeah. Right. One arrow is not going to put down Thor,

human Thor. The thing is... No. Unless you shot him through the head. I talk about this because I did that plumbing the Death Star episode, which was good fun, where we talked about that.

You'd have to put... The arrow is a non-lethal weapon generally. You pull it out, you keep going. Unless you shot him right through the head yeah which i don't think he would do right okay i think you'd probably get him in the shoulder or the neck right yeah yeah i mean i guess if you got him in the butt i reckon you get him in the butt because that'd be funny but yeah like the fact that they only exist in comic book because because it's a comic book and you know every character's got their own

thing sure yeah the unique style yeah and his happens to be like green arrow or whoever happens to be bow and arrows yeah yeah i mean you can't give him a gun though can you because he's just a guy with a gun well that's there's a there's a dc character um arrows protege speedy who later became arsenal yeah he's just a guy with a whole bunch of stuff yeah he's got heaps of guns look at the whole bunch of men there's even maybe track it down it's um it's just. He's just a guy with a whole bunch of stuff. He's got heaps of guns. He'll kill a whole bunch of men. Maybe track it down. It's just the Arsenal one-shot or whatever. He's out for revenge against drug dealers.

He just kills a whole bunch of people. He kills so many people. Good. It's amazing. It's great. That's great. Are you in favour of novelty arrows or are you against them? I'm absolutely in favour.

I'm absolutely in favour as well. If that's what you do, that's all I want to see. Yeah. Are you in favor of novelty arrows or are you against them? I'm absolutely in favor. I'm absolutely in favor as well. If you've got, that's what you do. Yeah. That's all I want to say. Yeah, yeah. Like, why would you fire an arrow that doesn't explode? Yeah. Like, you know what I mean?

I know exactly what you mean. There was a period, like, in Green Arrow. Yeah. Like, he was novelty arrows for years and years and years. Is that based on the TV show Arrow? Yeah, it is. Okay, good. Time travel.

And then for whatever reason, he became grim and gritty. And he stopped. They were like, ridiculous. Why would I use novelty arrows? It was just regular arrows. And then he had a son, Connor Hawke. And he would only use regular arrows as well. And at one point, he goes up to the Justice League satellite headquarters or or the moon base headquarters and he's like boxing glove arrow what is this kind

of thing is yeah bring back the novelty absolutely that's all i want to say he's always been about novelty yes he is i respect that yeah for some reason yeah there's actually a scene in one of the newer episodes the arrow yeah where he does a boxing glove arrow. Great. He, he basically puts, he sticks an arrow in a boxing glove and shoots it at a guy. Great. It's pretty good. Yeah. Is the green boxing glove?

I don't think it is. Okay. But I think that, or maybe it is, but I think they were like, I just remember that because they were talking about like, yeah, we want to work it out.

We just don't know how. Right. That's perfect. Yeah, totally. That's, yeah. Cause like,

you can't keep that on you. Sure. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. And I think in the comic books, it's like inflatable. Yeah. Okay. I don't know how that on you. Sure, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think in the comic books it's like inflatable. Yeah, okay. I don't know how that would work.

Yeah. Why does it have to be boxing glove shaped as well? It could just be a brick. It could be shaped like a banana. Oh, yeah, that's a really good point. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, bows and arrows.

Real world application? Just the novelty ones, I think. Okay, sure. But at the same time, Hawkeye's got a lot of weird, really specific novelty arrows. Like there's one in Avengers where he shoots a guy with an arrow and then it fires bullets out of it. Like in a circle. Wait, the movie? Yeah, the movie.

Really? Yeah, he shoots a guy with an arrow. It hits him in the head and then it like shoots out more bullets and it kills all the people around him. That's pretty great. It's great, but it's weirdly specific, right? Yeah, I guess it is. Like I assume you would come back from a lot of missions going, well, I didn't really need to use...

I got like half a dozen of those left. Yeah, exactly. I didn't need them at all. Well, in the movie though... I didn't need that grappling hook one either. I mean, I was on a flat plane. I didn't need to jump off a building at all. I don't need the grappling hook arrow. Always be prepared though, I guess. I guess so I was on a flat plane. I didn't need to jump off a building at all. I don't need the grappling hook arrow.

Always be prepared though, I guess. I guess so, yeah. Yeah. What about the crossbow while we're on the topic? Just briefly. Huntress has one. Anyone else? Probably.

Is it cheating? I mean, given the option, I would definitely use a crossbow because it's much easier. Yeah, but I mean, you'd want a quick loaded crossbow though because those old school crossbows are a pain in the ass to load. You've got to put them on the ground. It's like loading a blunderbuss. You've got to use them on the ground it's like loading a blunderbuss you gotta use your feet to like yeah uh great what about zorro's sword what a doesn't count doesn't count why not zorro he's a superhero

i guess so how dare you yeah there's gonna be that future zorro movie they reckon who's they there was that fake trailer for it or whatever I think they are no I think they've greenlit it it's a few years old or maybe it's delayed but

I like Zorro like a lot is it Batman's based off the Zorro the character of Batman wasn't

because in some versions of theatre they go to they go see Zorro they see Zorro they see the Mark of Zorro with Antonio Banderas

the modern version. They're like, oh, he's so dashing. Look at that guy. Yeah, I love his ponytail. All right, we'll talk about, okay, we'll talk about swords. Swords in general.

Okay, cool. Great for cutting a guy in half. Oh, definitely. Yeah, that's top shelf stuff. I feel like though, like Ninja Turtles have swords. Yeah, yeah. I think that's the best

Ninja Turtles weapon. What do you think? Yeah, all right. No, you're probably right. Because, I mean, what are nunchucks for, really? Hitting yourself. Yeah, hitting yourself. Exactly.

Hitting yourself in the testicles by accident. Hundreds of thousands of YouTube videos have shown that. Yes. Right? Absolutely. Which is weird, though, because that was the weapon that got banned at the time. Yeah. When Ninja Turtles came out.

A lot of countries... I reckon because they're easiest to make. Yeah, sure. Yeah. But, like, came out. A lot of countries... I reckon because they're easiest to make. Yeah, sure. Yeah. But like, I mean, swords are banned. You can even go to like a garden store. Yeah. In like a, like near a Chinese supermarket.

You can just buy nunchucks. Okay. Because they're like, they're rice flails. They are too. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, look, the bow stuff's pretty good as well. Yeah. Like you kill a man with that. You wrap that around someone's head. Oh, yeah. They're not getting that. No, look, the bow stuff's pretty good as well. You kill a man with that. You wrap that around someone's head. Oh, yeah. They're not getting that. Absolutely not. But yeah, swords, real world application, not so good unless you're a ninja.

But even then, you'd have to be a pretty good ninja. Yeah, totally. Not to get shot. Yeah. I feel like I'd cut my own hand off as well. Absolutely. Or even lightsabers. Yeah.

That comic book, though. Sorry? Is that comic book book it's really not although we we just played spoiler alert we just we just played uh because we have a somewhat recurring video youtube video series called never go back where we play terrible video games so you don't have to yes and one of the games we played was uh settled down nostalgia nostalgia we can we can corner some of this market. We played Avengers in Galactic Storm,

which is like a 1995... Beat him up. Beat him up. Marvel beat him up. Yeah. And one of the characters is Black Knight, inexplicably. I mean, he was in the comic book series, but... I wouldn't say that's the most inexplicable thing about that game.

Most of it, almost all of it is inexplicable. But he has a lightsaber in that. He does. Which is not his classic weapon his classic weapon is the ebony blade yeah which is like a cursed

I think Merlin built it in the Marvel universe he forged it it's meteor ore okay great black blade and I think it's cursed so like if you

if you draw the blade you have to kill somebody with it oh okay right so maybe that's why he had the lightsaber yeah you know

like I really don't want to use this yeah I mean yeah yeah but lightsaber real world. You know? Like, I really don't want to use this. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Yeah. But lightsaber real-world application, if they were real, so many dead people.

Yeah, absolutely. Like, if you ever turned on a torch and actually accidentally looked at it, like, that would happen, and you'd just go straight through your face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay, so Black Blade. You want to hear about the Ebony Blade?

I do. Because I just looked it up. Cut through any substance. No, actually because there was a brief, I think it was a Black Knight versus Iron Man situation a few years ago. He can cut through the Iron Man armor. He can cut through the Extremis armor with it. Well, a lot of people can cut through that as well.

Yeah, no, it's not. Look, Iron Man's armor isn't really that tough when you think about it. He has ruined a lot of those, especially in the movies, right? They're like paper in that third one. They're very much like paper. He burns one every movie, right? They're like paper in that third one. They're very much like paper. He burns one every movie, right? Good thing he went in for the grapple every time. Yeah.

What an idiot. What an idiot. Wielder can be injured, not killed. Okay, sure. I would take that. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, all right. You get a bloodlust.

Oh, they're doing a supernatural story like that at the moment. He's got the blade of Cain or something like that. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah. Okay, so... Oh, they're doing a supernatural story like that at the moment. He's got the blade of Cain or something like that. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah. Okay, cool. So you've got a bloodlust, but you can't die, essentially. Yeah, exactly. But they could cut your legs off.

Injured, but not killed. Oh, that's a really good point. Never covered that. Which is weird, in that he's a swordsman. He's probably fighting other swordsmen all the time. Yeah, almost exclusively. He's not going to go and fight a guy with a machine gun, is he? Yeah, that's true.

He probably has. Yeah, it sounds all right. Dane Whitman, Black Knight, once cleansed the blade of the taint accumulated over the years. Great. I bet he announced that to the team. Yeah, and they're like, great. Good on you, buddy.

That's really good. We're proud of you what about guns as a weapon the phantom's got them the punisher I think guns are cool depending on

guns are cool no they're not fuck guns I'm not a fan that Jim you see the Jim Jefferies oh the gun control yeah I did see that

yeah what was I gonna say guns are great you were saying I was saying that like I think if they've going to say? Guns are great, you were saying. I was saying that. Like, I think if they've got like a thing to them, like the Phantom's guns are a particular make and design.

They're a Colt.45. Yeah, exactly. I like that when they've got a specific thing. You like a signature gun. Exactly. I like a signature gun. Like, see, I feel like the Punisher doesn't really have, maybe an assault rifle. He's normally got an assault rifle.

Oh, sure. But yeah, I don't think he doesn't have a signature gun, does he? He probably does. Because back in the day he was more, like he started as kind of a second string villain. Yeah. Like he was hired by that guy. Oh yeah, I know him.

Yeah, to kill Spider-Man. Oh, what's his name? Trevor. No, he's green. You know? No. That guy. Hulk? The Jackal. Okay. He's green name? Trevor. No, he's green. You know? No. That guy. Hulk?

The Jackal. Okay. He's green inexplicably. But anyway, he hired the Punisher to kill Spider-Man. Okay. How'd he go? Not well. But he had like a net gun and stuff like that.

Like he was more. Yeah. Yeah. Like Net Arrow was a thing as well. Oh, Net Arrow's great. Yeah. I like a net gun. Sure.

I think real world application for a gun, 10. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Oh, Net Arrow's great. Yeah. I like a net gun. Sure. I think real world application for a gun, 10. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. What about Green Lanterns, Rick? Hang on,

are we still talking about guns? Fine, guns. I think guns are kind of the throwback because we're talking about Batman used to have a gun. That's the throwback from like Mystery Men from Batman.

Yes. Not the film Mystery Men. Oh, that's what I meant. Okay, well, I said yes. But like, you know, The Shadow and kind of those guys where everybody was just,

it was just a guy in a trench coat with a gun. He'd run into an apartment and kill everybody. Kill everybody. And the only difference between the characters was what kind of scarf

they used to obscure their face. Like it was all, it's the shadow and the dark phantom and the silver phantom and the black shadow. Right? Yeah, you're absolutely right. It's the shadow and the dark phantom and the silver phantom and the black shadow, right? Yeah, you're absolutely right. What colour is his neckerchief that he pulls over his face?

The shadow red. Just in general, I mean, that's what defines him. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Absolutely. And they're all just bored millionaires. And that was Batman. Yeah. I think they make mention in the Batman origin

that his parents were killed. I think that is mention in the Batman origin that his parents were killed. I think that is in the first comic. Yeah, but we don't see it explicitly. And then he's sitting and he's studying. He's like smoking a pipe. He's like, maybe I'll do it. He's wearing a smoking jacket and an ascot. Yeah.

Yeah. But he's essentially, he's the shadow. He's a tough. Yeah, he's a tough. And he's the shadow with a crazy costume. Yeah. Yeah. Do you like that shadow movie?

I didn't mind it. I can't really remember it. It's kind of funny. I remember the bit where he fights the dagger. Yeah. Yeah. Do you like that Shadow movie? I didn't mind it. I can't really remember it. It's kind of funny. I remember the bit where he fights the dagger. Yeah, the flying CGI dagger. I remember that. It's a real angry dagger. That film doesn't take itself that seriously,

which I appreciate. Yeah, well, yeah, good. There's a scene where like... He fights a CGI dagger. There's that scene, obviously. But there's a scene where like the villain, the Khan kind of villain yeah he shows up at like the shadow's house and they have like a conversation okay and it's like a kind of then

they're just goofing around all right and the bad guy's like where do you get that tie and shadow's like brooks brothers i got it kind of thing and then like the shadow has guns like hidden guns all over his apartment he just like kicks a butt kicks a button near his foot and like a gun comes out of a cabinet. Okay. He starts blazing away with it. Great. It's actually quite good. Okay.

What I'm saying is hide guns all around your house. They're really handy. Make sure there's a button within a kid's reach. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Surprise guns. Kids love them. Great.

Guns are great, I guess. That's what we've learned here. For killing guys. Real world application. Yeah. 10 out of 10. Anyway, Greenland powering. Let's get silly again.

Yeah, absolutely. It's technology, technically. It's not magic. That's pretty great. I mean, it can do literally anything. You want to make a gun, you want to make a cabinet that's got a gun in it. You can do that.

You can make whatever elaborate gun delivery system you want now it used to be we've talked about this where you could just make anything but other times you'd have to know the chemical compounds for it to make better make it better is that right like if he makes it oil if he knows the chemical compound for that particular type of oil it's slipperier than normal i think i think it's different for different green lanterns okay right i think like some have to do oil, it's slickerier than normal. I think it's different for different Green Lanterns. Okay, right. I think, like, some have to do that because it's technical, but some can just be like, just wing it kind of thing. Yeah, sure.

I imagine Guy Gardner would just wing it. Absolutely, he would. Yeah, there's a lot. I mean, it seems like a lot of that application is make a big fist and hit a guy with a fist. It's almost exclusively that. When they, because Hal Jordan relied a lot. Sorry, I'm just, I love it on that scene with the Green Lantern movie

where he's in the alley. He just kills three men. He clearly kills three men. He just, he's down there beating him and he just takes a swipe. Yeah, we've talked about that, yeah. No, giant grit. Okay, we should also rate these weapons on their ability to accidentally kill someone.

Okay, sure. When, like, you should, you know, you're just planning to knock a guy out and you accidentally kill them. Yeah. Baterain, they fall off a bridge and they're dead. Yeah. Shield, you hit a guy there with that shield. Broken neck at least.

Yeah. That thing's heavy. Yeah. Like, it's got a lot of weight behind it. Green Lantern Ring, one of those guys got punched into space. Absolutely he did. Let's not kid around. One does fly off screen like

you don't see you never see or hear him land so he's definitely dead yeah and that would do what he worked with like so three guys did not show up to work the next day absolutely because they're dead um yeah no that that is a very dangerous weapon especially if it just works like yeah like you could just have a reaction yeah oh that's what i was gonna say so in the like hal jordan relied on the big boxing gloves a lot yeah and when his ring was passed along to kyle rayner who was the the biggest green land of the 90s he was the only one i think the the editorial edict of that was he would never make the same construct twice okay which is quite interesting so if you go through that run yeah um yeah it's always a different thing like there's never a boxing

glove i don't think great okay yeah a lot of it's all his girlfriend was murdered and they stuffed her in a fridge but still which is horrific that is horrific yeah is a fridge a weapon i guess it could be you push a fridge onto a guy oh yeah definitely i mean it's it's an incredible defensive weapon if you've been here if you're about to get hit with a nuclear weapon absolutely but yeah it's i think the real world application that's a 10 limitless yeah exactly limitless i like that i like that weapon a lot i think with that though they've really painted themselves into a quarter where you you can he can make anything and he doesn't. Yeah, that's true. That's a lot of... In the same realm as, say, the show Heroes, created a character who had blood who could heal anything ever.

Isn't there a line that, what is it? Give me the heal anything blood. That's a literal line from that movie, from that TV series. Give me the heal anything blood. I bet you're glad it's coming back. Is it? Yeah. Netflix or something?

I don't know. It's called Heroes Reborn or whatever. Great. Yeah. I have hope for that kind of somehow. I don't give a shit. Okay, great. But it is, you're right.

He's got the weapon with no limitations. He doesn't fix everything for some reason. But that's most characters. Yeah, you're right. Superman could end all wars and blah-de-blah. But he doesn't. Speaking of Superman, he does have weapons. That S on the back of his yeah

back of his cape no the front of his cape pulls it off throws it those robots that he has yeah exactly the eradicator eradicator that's a pretty good weapon yeah just a sentient robot that robot he that robot suit he had to wear when he was just a regular man with a mullet yes other stuff yeah i guess your cape could be a weapon you could choke a guy with that oh you could yeah yeah other stuff yeah i guess your cape could be a weapon you could choke a guy with that oh you could yeah yeah that's pretty good yeah yeah uh but he is a human weapon that guy yeah like big time wonder woman magic lasso she's got that and she's got sometimes a sword and sometimes a shield yeah i love the sword and shield wonder woman i think that's really when you're playing justice you can switch it up you switch the styles up oh yeah you can be lasso or you can be sword

and shield yeah what would you choose lasso yeah it's magical i guess it is. You switch the styles up. Oh, yeah. You can be lasso or you can be sword and shield. Yeah. What would you choose? Lasso. Yeah. It's magical. I guess it is. Yeah. What's the real word application for that? What's it's...

Just using unused car salesman, I guess. Pretty much. She'd be in high demand. You'd get arrested. Yeah, she'd be in very high demand. You know what? If that was in real life, that would back up the legal process.

Yes. For eternity. It would, yeah. Because you could never be judged by a jury of your peers anymore. You could just be like, I want to go to the highest court of appeal, which is Wonder Woman's lasso. Yeah. And you'd just be like, she'd put the lasso on you and you'd be like,

I'm telling the truth. I didn't rob that liquor store or whatever. And she'd be like, oh, this is such a waste of my time. Not really, though. Yeah, I guess so. Like that's better than... That is probably the most noble thing. Yeah.

Yeah, okay. But you know, that's not fun, is it? No. That's a boring job. Yeah. How many could she do a day, do you reckon? Probably do 50. More than 50.

Yeah. She's got other stuff going on though. She's got to have lunch. Yeah. Yeah. Her sword and shield, they're magic obviously. The only properties in particular, they're mere indestructible. They're good for whopping a man magic, obviously. There's only properties in particular.

Like, they're mere indestructible. They're good for lopping a man's head off. That's true, actually. I didn't even think of that. Look, we've covered bloody swords and we've covered shields. Move on, mate. All right. What about the mace that Hawkman has?

What? No, that's fine. Well, you give me a look. I don't know. Give me some facts about that. It's a mace. You smash a guy in the face with it. Oh. What else do you do? Let's cover smashing all smashing weapons together then. Maces. I don't know. Give me some facts about that. It's a mace. You smash a guy in the face with it.

What else do you do? Let's cover smashing, all smashing weapons together then. Fine. Maces. Mjolnir. Mjolnir. Thunderstrike. Thunderstrike. Which is the same. His weapon is the same name as him.

That's embarrassing. Right? That is embarrassing. Yeah. Has anyone else got that? To say their weapon is the same name as them? I'm sure there is. Gunfire.

Billy. His weapon is gunfire, just generally. Firearm. His weapon of choice is a firearm. He's got a signature. You know what? That's a character from the 90s. You know what we should do one week?

We should do defunct comic book universes. I don't have a bloody field over that. You love that stuff, don't you? I do, yeah. I love whole universes that were created and then just crashed and burned. Swept aside. Swept aside in 18 months. So good. We could even do defuncts. Swept aside in 18 months. So good.

We could even do defunct comics. Email in if you love the bloody Impact universe, the bloody Malibu universe, comics greatest world. Bit bold, Dark Horse Comics. How dare you? And you know what? It's the perfect opportunity to do it because they're merging the Marvel universe and DC's doing something.

Yeah, okay, let's do it. So, yeah, absolutely. We can definitely do that. Thunderstrike. Yeah. Yeah, hitting guys with a. So yeah, absolutely. We can definitely do that. Thunderstrike. Yeah, hitting guys with a thing. Yeah, sure. Pretty good, isn't it? The best one of that is Thor's hammer though, right?

If you're allowed to use it. If you're considered worthy, exactly, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Captain America wielding that. I thought you were going to say, I wouldn't be surprised if we were considered worthy. Mate, I would not be surprised by that at all. I feel like we've earned it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. All right. Do you think that is sentient? I know they're kind of toyed with the idea. I don't like the idea of that. No? Not like it talks. No, yeah, no, I don't like the idea of that at all.

But how does it determine, like... I don't like the idea of Thor's hammer being sentient. I don't like the idea of the TARDIS being sentient. TARDIS is sentient. I know, but I don't like it. Fair enough. So no sentient. TARDIS is sentient. I know, but I don't like it. Fair enough. So no sentient weapons. No sentience, yeah.

What about like Kenshi from Mortal Kombat has a sword with the souls of his ancestors in it or something? No, that's fine. And they're all like, get me out of this fucking sword. We're talking about Defunct, the Black Hood from the Impact Universe. Okay.

He's got all the souls of the previous Black Hoods in his Black Hood. How do you like that? Must be pretty noisy. Bloody oath. Bloody oath. We'll get to that? Must be pretty noisy. Bloody oath. Bloody oath. We'll get to that. We'll get to that another week.

We could do Defunct Comic Book Universes and Defunct Comic Book Characters. Okay, great. Yeah. Nice. I'm excited for that. Me too. Let's do it next week. Let's not do it next week.

We can do it next week. Or maybe. We can do it next week. No, Ant-Man's out this week. You're a liar. You're full of lies. I'll never fall for that. I'm going to miss Ant-Man because you'll be like, Ant-Man's out this week.

And I'll be like, no, it's not. I'm going to lock myself in my house. What about the trident from Aquaman? We're still talking about... Maces. Would you like to know a list of people who have lifted Mjolnir's... Yes, I would. Okay.

Beta Ray Bill. He's lifted it. Eric Masterson, Thunderstrike. He's lifted it. And he's got his own. Yeah, no. I can't remember why he's worthy enough to lift it. He's got a great ponytail. That's probably it. And a great sleeveless leather vest. He's lifted it. And he's got his own. Yeah, no. I can't remember why he's worthy enough to lift it.

He's got a great ponytail. That's probably it. And a great sleeveless leather vest. That's probably why. You have a fondness for Eric Masterson. I do for some reason. And also I played as him in Avengers Ingalactic Storm, which will be up on Never Go Back. At some point.

At some point, yeah. Captain America can lift it. Yeah. Odin can lift it. Odin can lift it, yeah. Odin's father can lift it. I think Super... Yeah. Or... Is he alive or is he alive nothing he's dead okay I know he's come back Zarko the Tomorrow Man's mining robot I was gonna say yeah okay wait a minute the

awesome Android can do it what are we talking mimic Thor's powers okay sure but this so some guy's robot yeah some guy's robot who what why zarko the tomorrow man yeah yeah but like why his robot i can't remember because he's non-santy i need more information on that i know he is sent here never mind but that's the thing though if you can say he can he puts it on a hook in the movie right he hangs it up like it's a coat yeah Does that mean a robot can pick it up? Because a robot is an object. Right, okay.

No, I think by comic logic he couldn't be moved from there. I wonder, can you nudge it though? Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. But like, is it sentient so it would choose? Actually, I did a video with Bandit Incorporated. You and your videos. You and your bloody collabos.

Go check it out. You call it a Mr. Sunday Movies cross. What's his name? Joint? Yes. Bandit Incorporated. Bandit Incorporated Joint. It's good.

You son of a bitch. But yeah, we talked about that. And it'd have to be sentient to choose. No, I think it's just magic. Oh, man. Yeah. You and your bloody magic. Yeah, exactly.

They're like my collab videos. Yeah, exactly. Sick of them. Non-canon instances of other characters lifting the hammer. Conan the Barbarian. Yep. Superman. Superman.

Thor from the future. Storm's lifted. Rogue. Can't Spider-Man 2099 lift it? Yeah, you can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wonder Woman. I don't think it's necessarily you have to be a great bloke to lift it.

Yeah, it's very vague, isn't it? I think a lot of it's like you kind of, maybe you need it at that time. Right, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like some Sorting Hat shit from Harry Potter. Yeah, it's very much like that. Yeah. You can lift the hammer, but you're in Hufflepuff. Oh.

Oh. Wow. I like in the movie, though, how they've established he doesn't fly. He throws his hammer and he just kind of... Hangs onto it. Hangs onto it. Yeah, totally. How does he turn? How does that work? It doesn't matter. Yeah, how they've established he doesn't fly. He throws his hammer and he just kind of hangs on to it. Yeah, totally. How does he turn? How does that work?

It doesn't matter. Yeah, we'll never know. Yeah. Does that mean he eventually slows down? I guess it does. We all eventually slow down. That's true. Yeah.

Anything else on that Thor's hammer? No, that's all. Real world application, kill a guy with lightning. Oh, boy. He's accidentally killed a lot of people with that lightning. Without a doubt. A lot of bystanders, right? Yeah.

Now, can it summon lightning and shoot lightning? In the movies, it just comes down into the hammer and then shoots it out of the hammer again. Yeah. Cut out the middle man, I'd say. Cut out the middle man. Just shoots the lightning out of it. Yeah.

Yeah. Or just hit someone with lightning. Storm can do that. Oh, that's even better. Yeah. That's why Storm can do it because she's kind of got lightning powers. Yeah, that's a bit... Bit of a stretch, is it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. even better, yeah. That's why Storm can do it because she's kind of got lightning powers. Yeah, that's a bit...

Bit of a stretch, is it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. What about, well, Trident. We talked about this the other week. Yeah.

Aquaman's Trident. It's pretty good, I guess. Yeah, sure. You can hit a spirit guy through the chest. Sure, definitely you can. That's about it. Yeah.

I mean, it's magic and stuff, isn't it? Yes. I think you can... We talked about it the other week. I can't even remember. It does a bunch of stuff.

Oh, boy, yeah. Go and listen to the Aquaman episode. Oh yeah. Real world application, kill a guy. Kill a guy, absolutely. Accidentally kill a guy, definitely.

Definitely. Oh no. Yeah, I guess you'd have to be, I think you could. I mean summon a tidal wave. Yeah. Definitely accidentally kill a couple of guys. You're right, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like if you're killing someone with that, you're doing it on purpose. Yeah. Generally. Yeah, totally. Yeah. That's a pretty good one. Spider-Man web shooters yeah i was gonna say is that a weapon

though i mean it is he uses it a weapon isn't it yeah yeah like it's a method of transport yeah it's like a car is a weapon and a method of transport yeah exactly or a gun that you can ride the bullet yep like a big one oh like a really big bullet yeah definitely yeah they wind back up don't they they have to be able to. How do you mean? Like if he shoots and it goes a great distance and then he swings down, it'd have to get shorter so that he doesn't just swing into the ground. Are you sure?

I'm very sure. I've seen the diagrams, mate. I saw them as a kid. There's no reeling back in. It's under pressure. I understand. You can't go back in. It's under pressure, mate.

I'm thinking of the Tobe McGuire. Thwip. The Tobe McGuire. Thwipity Thwip. The Tobe McGuire one can, I think. That's gross. You can pull go back in yeah but he's under pressure i'm thinking of the tope the tope the tobe mcguire pitty thwip tobe mcguire one can i think that's gross no that's no yeah he doesn't possibly how it works i'm telling you that's true i'm sure there's examples of it i doubt it very much why don't you watch spider-man i think he just crawls up it he's a spider he's not a real spider mason oh yeah but wow no i'm sure he could pull that back in uh-huh i might be wrong but they do actually do a cool thing in the latest spider-man he does a a crawl like as you like you'll fire it and then if he's going to swing into a building he'll like double hand he'll do a double hand climb to kind of gain momentum and because again he cannot yeah

i know it doesn't go back i think the't think spiders... Can spiders do that? No. What about the bit where he gets the Dr Pepper and he goes, and then he pulls it back at him? Doesn't it go back or does he just yank it? I think he just yanks it. All right. How about here?

Here's a weapon for you that I've thought of. How about the ultimate nullifier? I don't know what that is. Okay, so basically, when Galactus first showed up on Earth. Is it his big stick? No, it's like a little handheld thing. I'll find you a picture.

I think you're thinking of a telephone. I'm thinking of the telephone. That's a great weapon. Yeah. You clock a guy with a rotary telephone, you're going to knock out all these people. Man, if we're talking about comic book weapons, Russell Crowe knows how to wield a telephone, let me tell you.

I mean, only against like hotel porters and stuff. People who deserve it. Yeah, definitely. I'll be honest, the Ultimate Nullified does look a little bit like a telephone. Now that I've... In People who deserve it. Yeah, definitely. I'll be honest, the ultimate nullifier does look a little bit like a telephone. Now that I've... In your face, mate.

Yeah. Does a Galactus helmet do anything? Nah. That's the ultimate nullifier. There it is. Okay. It's an ultimate nullifier.

Anyway, basically, look, here's how it works. I'll find you a diagram in a second. It's important. You can have a look at all the internals. Yeah, I found one.

There we go. But basically, Galactus was about to eat the Earth and just about to tuck in yeah about to tuck in and reed riches is like i better put a stop to that and so he goes up to the moon and he talks to the watcher and he's like how do i get how do i stop galactus whatever and uh the watch is like i can't interfere but there's the ultimate nullifier. And he's like, oh, great. He's like,

what? Yeah. Help. It does all these things and here's the instruction manual, but I can't interfere. Well, thanks for nothing. I'm going to turn my back

as the watcher. I'm going to stop watching for a second. And if I turn back and the ultimate nullifier is gone, I ain't going to ask no questions. And Redridge is like, what do you mean? Help me out here. Come on.

But basically, depending on the version you hear, it's like an artifact from the previous version of the universe. And so it can kill Galactus. Oh, okay. Basically, if you wield it, you can destroy anything you can think of. What's the reception like on it? Like two bars most of the time. Yeah.

What's with the previous universe? Yeah, so two bars is as good as you can get. But basically, you can use it to destroy anyone or anything. Yeah. But unless you have the willpower, it will kill you as well. It will utterly annihilate you. Does it kill Reed Richards? No, he doesn't use it.

He threatens people with it. Oh, just waves it about. He threatens Galactus with it and he just threatens everybody with it. While I'm here. Yeah. While I've got you. Franklin, clean your room. I'll set up a nullifier.

I've got it. I'll kill you. I'll kill me. I don't care. I'm a bad father. We've established that. Yeah, man. Yeah, he's not a good person yeah yeah yeah

so he just waves at a Galactus and Galactus buggers off yeah pretty much do you think they would have worked on that cloud

that came down in the Fantastic Four movie I think maybe just one element of the cloud okay sure he'd be like oh and then he'd destroy it

and he'd be annihilated and they'd be like oh you got rid of one cubic foot of that cloud yeah that's pretty good yeah well if we're talking here we go here's that And then he'd destroy it and he'd be annihilated and they'd be like, oh, you got rid of one cubic foot of that cloud. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty good.

Yeah. What if we're talking. Here we go. Here's that. Here's the bloody panel, mate. No Galactus. It is you who will perish. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Yawn. And then Galactus is like the ultimate nullifier in the hands of a human. Actually, you know what? The ultimate nullifier was on Galactus's ship now that I think about it. Oh, okay. Shouldn't have carried it around with him. No, probably not. He should have buried it.

Yeah. Or kept it on him. You know what he should have done? How big is this thing? It's like put in a man's hand. So how big is Galactus in that panel? I think he's like 30 feet tall. That's pretty big, I guess.

Yeah, right. Yeah. It's bigger than us. How's he eating a plant if he's 30 feet tall? But I reckon what he should have done is maybe go onto the beach and put it in one of his sneakers. And then nobody would have found it, right? Because nobody ever finds stuff that you put in your sneakers

you take to the beach. You can swim all day. Yeah, that's right. No worries there. Maybe you'll steal your phone. Pretty good. Well, that's good. I'm glad that that is a weapon that exists.

Oh, yeah. Well, if we're talking ridiculous weapons, we're all in application, I would kill myself with that. Oh, definitely. We're not. I don't have the willpower for that. Yeah. It wouldn't even destroy anything else.

But then again, the ethos of this show is grab that jam, man. Oh, definitely. We're not. I don't have the willpower for that. Yeah. It wouldn't even destroy anything else. But then again, the ethos of this show is grab that gem, man. Oh, yeah. So what I'm saying is if you get your hands on the ultimate nullifier, you're probably destined for greatness. So just try and destroy something with it. Who would you kill? And I'm not talking like I'd kill a terrorist or whatever. If you had to kill like a celebrity, who would you kill?

Oh, Ryan Seacrest? I was going to say Ryan Seacrest. Mainly because we talked about Ryan Seacrest? I was going to say Ryan Seacrest. Mainly because we talked about him earlier, right? I have no problem with Ryan Seacrest. Yeah, exactly. He's probably a really nice guy. Yeah. So we're going to kill.

Yeah, totally. Oh, God. Well, look, ridiculous weapons that can do anything or whatever. The Infinity Gauntlet. Actually, before we do that, the chance of accidentally killing somebody with the Ultimate Nullifier, though, very low. Okay, sure.

Like, you can't... You need to be specific. You're very specific. Yeah, very good. Like, you can't kill any bystanders with it. Yeah. Unless you throw it at them. Yeah, I guess so.

You hit them in the temple. And it's never really clear how the ultimate nullifier, like, kills that person. Like, maybe... Do you see it in use? It literally explodes into, like, a small sun or something. That would be pretty great. No, I don't know. I've never...

No. I've never... No. You never really see anyone killed with the ultimate nullifier. Somebody send in a panel. Oh, no. Here's somebody bursting into flames, isn't it? Great. There we go. How good's that?

It's pretty good. Bang. Looks painful. We should email that to Ryan Seacrest. Yeah. You're next, buddy. Your ass is grass, Seacrest. Infinity Gauntlet.

Yes. Can literally do anything, I guess. Are you sure? That's a pretty good weapon. Yeah, yeah. That's one of those things where I don't want that. Yeah, a lot of pressure. Yeah.

Same with like time machines or dimensional travel. I don't want it. Yeah. Get it away from me. Right, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

But we were what application is well that's amazing you can you can literally do anything you can literally control the universe yeah time travel i was gonna say i would i wouldn't be worried about accidentally unraveling time sure i would be more worried about micromanaging myself to death like i'd be like you know i'd walk up to somebody and be like, hey, how's your morning going? They'd be like,

oh, not so good. And I'd be like, I regret being in this conversation. Time travel back 10 seconds, walk the other way. And I would literally do that every day forever. You'd never talk to anyone.

I'd never. Chiefly it'd be for not talking to anyone, but I just, every five seconds I'd be, like, you know, if you play a video game where you can save your game whenever you want. Yeah, you'd go back. Like I'd go back every, I'd save my game every 30, you know, if you play a video game where you can save your game whenever you want.

Yeah, you'd go back. Like, I'd go back every... I'd save my game every 30 seconds. Yeah, if you can. So I'd be like that in real life. Yeah. And I'd just be like, don't want to talk to that guy.

Said the wrong thing there. Yep. Or I'd make a joke and I'd be like, I could have got a better laugh if I'd said a different word and I would go back. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. You sound like you'd be Nicolas Cage in Next.

Yeah, but I feel also it'd be like a really inconvenient version of time travel. It wouldn't be like a gauntlet on your wrist or whatever. You'd just time travel straight away. It'd be like a booth. So I'd have to walk back to my house. I'd be like, how about that? And they'd be like, no, that wasn't that funny. And I'd have to walk back to my house, go back in the time machine,

go back 10 seconds, come back out again awkward oh that's great bad day yeah bad day infinity gauntlet though you're saying yeah um it looks like you hit someone with that it's gonna hurt it looks like it's made of metal oh sure you're just thinking hitting somebody in the face that's what i'm thinking right sometimes it's like a glove though like a soft like a slappy glove yeah definitely look I think once you've got the power of the Infinity Gauntlet, you can make it as soft or as... You're probably right. You can make it as slappy or non-slappy as you want, ultimately. I'd go maximum slappy.

Yeah, maximum slappy, definitely. Yeah, I don't know, it's great. But you know what? I don't really know what to say about it. It could do anything, so... It's a game-breaker, really. It's a game-breaker, you're right. It's too powerful to be in the hands of anyone.

If we're talking game breaker. Except me, because I've got it in my little photo. I'm quite happy to have it. You do, yeah. We're talking game breaker. Stilt Man stilts. Oh, definitely. Thank you to everybody,

because last episode or the episode before, I asked people to tweet the hashtag Idris for Stilt Man, because I'm hoping that Idris Elba, handsome, talented, whatever badass actor Idris for Stiltman. Because I'm hoping that Idris Elba, handsome, talented, whatever, badass actor. Possibly James Bond. Yeah, possibly James Bond actor could take the role of Stiltman in a Marvel movie. Or whatever.

Or a TV show. I don't know. Just put the costume on and show up at Comic-Con. I don't care. Please. If anybody can make Stiltman a badass character, Idris Elba. Correct.

Yeah. Do you reckon we'll see Stiltman again soon? Or some point i hope so now yeah now that i think about it get him an agent of shield or something oh yeah totally yeah anyway stilt man you're saying yeah i guess you could kick someone from across the room it's pretty good a lot of scope for accidentally crushing somebody definitely you're doing some high-rise walking you're just walking around the city accidentally kick an old lady i'd feel like i just walk into kick a cyclist accidentally cyclist yeah i feel like i just walk into some power lines oh that'd be painful yeah yeah and then that'd be all over yeah that's pretty good maybe he has constant

looking down cameras like what if you had a camera in each leg yeah i guess you would yeah what about uh is the iron Man suit considered a weapon? I mean, it is a weapon. Well, according to US Congress, it's considered a prosthesis. Oh, okay. Or something, I don't know. Really? In the movie.

Oh, I thought you meant real life. No, no, no. Okay. It's definitely a weapon. Yes. It's got a lot of guns in it. Boy, does it. Yeah.

And that thing in the middle. Oh, yeah. You can blast a guy. Unibeam. Unibeam, yeah. He doesn't use that enough, I feel. Yeah, if you've in it. Boy, does it. Yeah. And that thing in the middle that can blast a guy. Uni-beam. Uni-beam, yeah. He doesn't use that enough, I feel. Yeah, if you've got it flaunted, I say. Yeah, that's right.

That applies to anything. I'd use it non-stop. Yeah, me too. But again, that is... I'd cook my toast on it. Yeah. The Iron Man suit, especially the movie version, there is not a lot of scope for collateral damage.

I mean, there kind of is. In what sense? What do you mean? Like he can individually target terrorists and not kill their the hostages or whatever he doesn't use that a lot though he's sure it's true yeah that's a pretty good weapon you're right it's pretty precise yeah and you also you've got an ai program controlling it fixing your drunken errors yeah because tony stark is a drunk yeah which is ultimately much more valuable than the armor itself definitely sell that Sell that off. Well, as we saw in Iron Man 3, yeah,

those can be independently functional. Yeah, don't need him at all. You do not need him at all. I feel like you'd want a rational AI like Jarvis behind that thing instead of Tony Stark. Yeah, definitely. Why Phil? He's a drunk.

He's a big drunk. And kind of a lunatic. Yeah, in many ways, sure. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe we should leave it here with weapons. You got any others? We could do another episode on this.

Oh, we could definitely come back to this. We could go through all the power rings. Let's not do that. Once we get to the star sapphire, I'm bloody... Obviously, there's a lot more. Yeah. I don't know. If you want to tell Mason what your favorite weapon is,

at Wikipedia, prune him. Yeah. Or if you want to tell Mr. Sunday Movies, it's at Mr. Sunday Movies on Twitter. You don't want to tell Mason what your favourite weapon is yeah at Wikipedia Brown him yeah or if you want to tell Mr. Sunday Movies it's at Mr. Sunday Movies you don't want to tell me that no you do no you can tell me

yeah that'd be cool well Mason we should do these again I like these I like them too you like listing things I love listing things

if that's what you mean yeah we didn't get to the quantum bands no we didn't which we saw in Guardians we didn't get to the negabands we didn't get to the whirligog is that a real one it's a real one it's our man's he had it for a while anyway it doesn't matter Which we saw in Guardians. We didn't get to the Negabands. We didn't get to the Whirligog.

Is that a real one? It's a real one. It's our man's. He had it for a while. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Okay, cool. That's pretty good. We can get to so many. Do you know what it is time for, though, today?

What is it time for? What are we reading? Oh, what are we going to read? I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? What are you reading? What I've been reading, actually. Well, I've been catching up on some TV series. Been doing that.

Yeah, Game of Thrones. Yeah, I'll get there. Hang on. I'll do TV series first because I'll forget otherwise. Sure. I've been catching up on Better Call Saul. Yeah, that's good yeah I'm enjoying it more actually

because you were worried that it's going to be just a whole lot of cameos I was worried it was going to be Breaking Bad guest star overload kind of thing yeah

I've been reading and it's very slow going but I've been enjoying it it's called Supreme Blue Rose we've not talked about Supreme before maybe we have briefly

Supreme was a when the Image Comic Universe started Rob Liefeld, famous bad artist Rob Liefeld famous for calling himself the Michael Jordan of comics probably famous for his Levi 501s you know they always loved him back in the day

anyway it's Warren Ellis so Supreme was kind of like a superman-esque character yes and he was not he wasn't very well drawn yeah kind of character uh i mean literally not well drawn and he was kind of no good uh but uh many years later rob lyfield got oh alan moore alan mo Alan Moore to write a version of the story. And he's like, well, I want to throw everything away and start again. No offense, but at the same time, take great offense.

Yeah, no offense, but everything you've done is garbage to this point. And I'm just going to blast over the top. And to Rob Liefeld's credit, he's like, oh, okay, whatever. And this is very- Mate, when you're the Michael Jordan of comics, not a lot of faces you know. That's true, yeah. Absolutely. Just getting your triple doubles all day.

Three pointers. Dunks. Dunks. All that stuff. All those things. Anyway, Warren Ellis, who was also another one of my favourite writers after Alan Moore,

is writing a new series called Supreme Blue Rose, which is essentially... We haven't really gotten to the meat of it. We're like four... I'm like four or five issues in. And it's about... Is it about four? Has there only been four out? issues in uh and it's about is it about four is there only been four out yes i think there's five out but i'm behind uh and it's very well uh great

great art a little bit stylized it's um it's it's it's covered some big topics it's it's set it's set in a world where a woman diana dane has been set this task of investigating uh she's been hired by like a multi-billionaire yeah to uh who who specializes in like an investigative company who specialize in blue rose cases which are like really weird you know nearly unsolvable little x-files kind of thing and she has been aliens it's probably almost certainly aliens or black goo or whatever it is some sort of weird oil uh and she's she's having bizarre kind of dreams about the end of the universe and the beginning of the universe and kind of super trippy kind of staircases to the moon i bet they're boring stories she tells people i bet there my mum was there, but it wasn't my mum.

And anyway, and in sort of this, some people are positing this theory that our universe is only a few months old and what happened to the previous universe and it's all, it's some big stuff and she's all, and it also, it all seems to tie into the superhero Supreme who hasn't really made an appearance yet. It's kind of, but it's very intriguing. So it continues on from Alan Moore's work? Yeah yeah it's tough to say there are some recurring characters yeah yeah okay it's a it's a real it's a thinker i don't know how i feel about it yet i'm enjoying

it yeah but i think it might be a limited series and it's going to end on a note of like well whatever how do you like this and do you like it i do kind of like it yeah good yeah no that sounds good i might get into that yeah well i'm reading also comics oh yeah sure i'm trying to make my way through some classic spider-man stuff because we're going to do a spider-man episode hopefully soon on best spider-man stories or whatever yeah yeah and i'm reading craven's last hunt at the moment oh yeah which is a classic and people say the new movie could very well be possibly based off that. That's an idea that's been floated. Great.

Yeah, that's good. I mean, it's, I don't know. I find it hard. Like, it's well drawn, but, like, you know, they lack crispness, these older style comics, you know what I mean? Because they're basically, they're scans and whatever. They're not. Because now, being digital, you can get the crispest image oh absolutely imaginable yeah but no i i'm really enjoying you can see the dots in

the old stuff yeah you can you can really see that which is fine whatever but yeah i i'm thoroughly enjoying it i'm looking forward to getting into a bunch of spider-man stuff yeah i might reread is there a lot of how are you how are you feeling about the thought bubbles they don't really they're not really doing them okay good it's more it okay, good. It's more boxes, like yellow boxes or whatever, yeah. But yeah, it's got the black suit, so. Oh, yeah, cool. But not like the black suit, black suit. Just the costume.

Just the costume, yeah. Great. We also, obviously, we played some video games this week. Boy, did we. A couple of them. So hopefully I'll get, if you're a Patreon, I'll hopefully get that out sometime this week for one of them and then I'll hold on to that one for a bit.

But it just depends on, because I've got to edit those around. I've got to release a video on Thursday and I juggle two at once. Yeah, no, I'm not complaining, but I'm just saying I don't know when I'm going to finish it. I haven't even started it. So look forward to that if you've donated any amount of money on Patreon. Fantastic. Dot com slash Sunday, Mr. Sunday Movies. Yes, but anyone who hasn't, you'll get it eventually.

Yeah, totally. I'll upload in like a month or whatever I have a lot of fun playing those yeah except for that last one god yeah

but even the bad ones I feel like the worse the game the better the video turns out because the one that we played which I guess

I won't spoil we thoroughly enjoyed it and it's a lot of us going oh my god this is great so but I haven't even looked at it we'll see how it goes

i've got a what we're reading here from brandon not brandon oh sure yeah yeah hello brandon hello brandon i remember you brandon we meet again brandon except no no okay email us again why don't you brandon brandon uh the official pirate captain of the podcast uh writing with what we're reading a while back i was sitting on my couch playing video games oh yeah friend when my landlord we've all got stuff going on we do my landlord came to drop the stack of new 52 batwoman comics on my lap he explained that the illustrator of the comics was a client of his from work i looked down at the volumes to see the illustrator that was none other than jh williams the third was worked on such things as sandman judge dread promethea and many other titles from across the world.

I just finished the first volume, and let me tell you, it's amazing. The artwork is unlike anything I've seen in a traditional book before, and the story is extremely interesting, focusing more on the personal life of a crime fighter and the issues that come with it rather than taking the baddies. Just taking the baddies. If you get a chance, definitely check it out. If nothing else, at least Google some of the fine artwork in there.

It's incredible thanks guys love the show PS fuck art nice good good yeah that sounds really good I've been meaning to read that

I started on Batwoman when it started and I'm way behind but it is really good yeah it's fantastic yeah yeah totally that's good

cool alright yeah I think the creative team quit okay after a certain point yeah because they wanted Batwoman to get married and she's a lesbian and they were like ooh can't do that oh really Cool, all right. Yeah. I think the creative team quit. Okay. After a certain point. Yeah.

Because they wanted Batwoman to get married and she's a lesbian and they were like, ooh, can't do that. Oh, really? I don't think they were, you know, I don't think they were against, like, it was one of those issues where it's, I think DC want Batwoman to be exactly like Batman in the sense that they can't be happy romantically. But they're different. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying.

I think they're like, well, they both have to be brooding crime fighters forever and so they can't be happy kind of thing. No. Yeah, exactly. Batman, yes. Yeah. Other characters, no.

No, yeah. Even Batman, yes, sometimes. Yeah. Again, I've mentioned this before. My favourite Batman, I think, is probably animated series Batman because tragic things happen in his life. And he's banging broads.

Yeah, he's banging broads. And he's also like, I really enjoy beating people up, like bad people. I'm having fun kind of thing, you know. Maybe it's a psychosis. I don't know, but it's fun. I don't care. Yeah. Look into it.

I'm rich. Banging broads. Yeah, absolutely. That is one of the best interpretations of the character. Yeah. But we won't say that. But yeah, so I think that, I don't know, I don't think it was like homophobia necessarily.

I mean, it might have been. It was more they just wanted Batman in a woman's body. In a woman's body, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. But who's to say? I don't know. You are.

Yeah, I was saying that, wasn't I? You know what it's time for now, though? It's letters. It's time for letters. Thank you for everybody for not sending in a theme song oh sure i appreciate it because as i said it involves more editing and quite frankly letters letters i love you some letters they're only a day away they're right now they're definitely right now yeah yeah yeah all right uh so this is from Ryan E.

Don't listen to the letters, still tomorrow. Tomorrow. No, it's all stopped. This is from Ryan E., the official gritty reboot Ryan Gosling here. I wanted to know if you guys have gotten into a situation or trouble because you love comic books and cinema, but your love for that, sorry, has maybe overshadowed other people's opinions.

I think very critically of movies and share many opinions on the topics you discuss. However, in the past I've gotten in trouble for having a big mouth and speaking aloud about some opinions I thought everyone agreed on. For example, recently I got into an argument because my best friend's girlfriend loves Tank Girl and I casually mentioned that I thought it was bad. Tank Girl is pretty bad. Is it?

Look, a lot of people love it. Sure. It's been so long since I've seen it that I can't form an opinion on it. I remember the bad guy has a hologram head. Oh, sure, yeah, yeah. That's all I remember. Great. And water and kangaroo men.

Kangaroo men, yeah. Yeah. And a tank. And a tank. Yeah. And she showers in sand. Yeah. Maybe it's a classic.

Yeah. And Naomi Watts is in it. It'd be hard to call yourself tank girl if you're not just constantly in a tank. I agree. You'd be like, hey, I'm tank girl. They'd be like, why? We're in a cafe. Yeah.

What do you mean? Yeah. See that? Oh, I parked the tank around the corner. I had to. Yeah. It's impossible to park. You just flatten a car, I guess.

Yeah. The same thing happened again when I mentioned something like, everyone thinks a good day to die hard was terrible. However, she exclaimed that she loves it. Has that ever happened to you? Where you you've like gone mentioned casually that something's terrible and someone's like oh i love that i try not to spoil anybody's fun anymore sure i'll wait for somebody else's opinion especially if it's like and then you'll jump on it yeah then i'll jump on you idiot you're such an idiot they're like um yeah like i try not to spoil like you know i find star wars for the most part pretty average

yeah i've mentioned but i won't spoil anybody's fun with that like i'm not on this show you will no definitely yeah you guys know what you're in for like i i won't you know if somebody really loves star wars i'll focus on the positives if we have to talk about star wars great lightsabers great lightsabers great music great padawan. Great music. Great Padawan haircut. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, fair enough. You know, but... I often, I've fallen into this trap a few times.

I've said this before with a Big Bang Theory. Right, yeah. Where people are like, you like comic books, you'd love this. Right, right. And I used to be like, I'm going to sit you down and explain to you why this isn't a good show. Right. But now I just go, I've said this before, I haven't seen it.

Right, exactly. You know what, I should watch it. It looks right up my alley yeah unless somebody specifically says tell me the reasons why you don't like yeah exactly i'm just gonna leave it i agree yeah yeah i actually got a similar kind of letter here um from rajdeep says hola rajdeep from the uk just asking about whether or not you guys have ever nerded out to someone in public without meaning to. So, for example, I was talking to this girl and I mentioned about how I was going to go out after Union by Mario Kart 8, in which she replied how she thought there were only two Mario Kart games. I then went on to give an intensive history of Mario Kart and how Nintendo tend to not number their sequels,

all without realising she had no idea what I was talking about. But yes, I officially dubbed Mason the James editor at that website of the podcast. Yes. You heard me. Now what are you going to do, Muggles? That's a good point. Look, in that scenario,

because most people think there's Mario Kart on the Super Nintendo and Mario Kart 64, right? Yeah, and that's it. That's it, right? But there's a stack, yeah. You just say... No, there's a few. Yeah, i guess they they just keep pumping them out yeah that's all you have to say yeah it's i i do accidentally nerd out in public sometimes not anymore yeah no because i i know that we sound like we're ashamed of being nerds no it's not that i just don't want to bore

somebody basically yeah but like i i don't go down unless somebody asks me questions yep but even then if someone's like what's the deal with iron man or whatever and i get into it i'll stop and be like i'm sorry do you do you care about this because i'll stop like i don't mind but i yeah no i try to steer away from it a lot of people don't know that i even like this stuff like this because i don't you know wear captain america t-shirts and and whatever and again there's nothing wrong with that it's amazing you literally do wear cap no i have one but i don't, you know, wear Captain America t-shirts and whatever. And again, there's nothing wrong with that. It's amazing. You literally do wear Captain America t-shirts.

No, I have one, but I don't wear it out. Oh, okay, right. Wow, this whole thing's been a lie. Yeah. I have a Captain America t-shirt. I have a Superman t-shirt, neither of which I bought for myself. Again, it's because I just don't want to go down that rabbit hole. And like a lot of people I work with, for example, don't know.

Or they'll be like, oh, what do you think of this or whatever? And I'm like, I have no opinion or I don't know. Right, right. like it's i yeah like i they say that like being nerdy is like being unashamedly enthusiastic about a certain thing which i think we are yeah but like in the same way that if you love sports yeah i don't care right so don't talk to me about it for an hour unless you say what's the deal with that sporting event that's happening there it's exactly like we're at the football how did you how did you get to this point i don't know i think i wear a lot of like um t-shirts of like fictional companies that exist yeah things like

like your blue sun corporation that's nakatomi plaza if somebody gets it yeah they're like oh good they have another level of knowledge like most people just wear a t-shirt that's got like Joe's Garage or whatever on it. And it doesn't mean anything. They just got it at the Target or whatever. At Joe's Garage. Yeah, they just got it at Joe's Garage. So most people will blow right past a, you know, a Tech Noir nightclub T-shirt or whatever. Yeah.

Like, and some people will be like, oh, that's from the Terminator. And you'll be like, yeah, of course this is from the Terminator. Obviously. Let's look at the Terminator. They need to sell me. Yeah. Let's talk about the Terminator. Ready to sell me. Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah.

So, but you don't... I know that you're reluctant to like... Well, you talked about the Batman... Not Batman. The Superman Hulk showdown. Like somebody will ask you about that. You're like, I don't want to... I don't want to get into this.

Yeah. I don't. I will reveal... Like I'll hang back. Yeah. Somebody's like, who's stronger, Superman or the Hulk? If it's a group situation, I'll hold back. Yeah. Until I find the back. Somebody's like, who's stronger, Superman or the Hulk? If it's a group situation, I'll hold back

until I find the level of the level of the discussion. And then I'll jump in probably with a joke or whatever, unless they're really getting into it. And then you get that time machine, you go back,

you walk back to your house. Yeah. And I'll be like, I'll take care of this. And then bang. Yeah. But don't get me wrong, I love talking about this stuff.

Yeah, me too. But I don't want to bore somebody with it. But I have done it where I've just gone like, I'm sorry, I've just spoke at you for 10 minutes. Yeah, I think the idea being, and maybe nerds including us maybe need practice at this, is to find the level. Yeah. Like I just said.

If you just say in a conversation, what's the level? what's everybody what do you what do you want from me what do you want from god damn it yeah just read the room is that what you're saying yeah read the room i think that applies to anything no definitely it does yeah yeah yeah like not just comic book stuff yeah but just kind of be like you, if people start talking about the Marvel movies, what do they want out of this conversation? exactly. Yeah. What do they want? Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know, but yeah, you're right. Most people want to know like, what's the deal with Captain America? Is he frozen? And then they just want you to say,

yeah, he was. And then he was unfrozen. Yeah. You are correct. They don't need to know everything else or they don't want to know everything else, but yeah. Yeah,

man. But no, but also just if you want to yell at people about everything else. But yeah. Yeah, man. But no. But also, if you want to yell at people about it, do that also. Yeah, absolutely. Go now. Yeah. If you want to illustrate a history

of the Mario Kart games, go ahead. But the thing is, I love that. If somebody sat down and said, no, this is the history of Mario Kart, I'm like, yeah. I want to know that.

Throw in some non-nerdy anecdotes as well. Sure. Like if you've got a funny story about the history of Mario Kart, if there's a fun anecdote in that story, not necessarily about the video games, but like what did bloody Shigeru Miyamoto have to say about that? Probably a bunch of stuff. Probably a bunch of stuff.

I'd tell him that. Yeah. Hey, guys. Nick here. I live up in Queensland in a city called Rockhampton. Recently, we were hit with a Category 4 Cyclone. We had no power for a week Luckily, I guess, I had all your podcasts on my phone so I had to listen

to them for entertainment. Unfortunately my phone would run out of battery so I would charge it on my laptop until my laptop battery had run out So that was good, I guess Great, now that's the level of enthusiasm I think I want for this Anyways, the reason I was writing is because of the news that Fox is making an Expendables TV show.

Do you know about this? No. I was going to put it up top, but I didn't. Wait, are they going to have all the TV? Are they going to have... Wow, TV action stuff. Tom Selleck. Tom Selleck.

Lorenzo Lamas. The guy who was in the Phantom TV series. The guy from Forever Night. Nick Knight. Yeah, Nick Knight, but his name was... I'll come back to it. Knight Rider. David guy from Forever Night. Nick Knight. Yeah, Nick Knight but his name was I'll come back to it. Night Rider. David Hasselhoff.

David Hasselhoff, yeah. His son from the reboot. From the reboot, yeah. He was a jerk, wasn't he? He was a real arsehole. Do you remember that reboot

because there was nothing wrong with him. He was like a cool handsome guy. He was a cool handsome guy and he used to be an army ranger. And they actually were like

hey, I'm not going to mess with you because you're an army ranger but I'll beat up your nerd friend. That's why that show failed. Oh, God. Well, on a lot of levels, that show failed because we're talking about being a nerd and whatever. Nerds don't want to be that guy.

No. They don't. You know, some maybe. Yeah, but nerds don't want to be the cool guy. That guy doesn't care about Lord of the Rings. That guy doesn't go... The character in that... Let me bring him up on Twitter.

Yeah. I'll ask him. No, but the character... Yeah, I know what you mean. He doesn't want to go see a Marvel movie. No, you're right. You don't want to be that guy. No, you're right.

Cool car or no cool car. You don't want to be that guy. Voiced by Will Arnett in that version. Yeah. Or they swapped it out. Yeah, they swapped it out because Will Arnett had a conflict of interest then it was he's against

talking cars no because he did like a Toyota commercial or something like that oh okay right so they went with fat Val Kilmer yeah

not thin Val Kilmer ah no okay yeah okay fair enough yeah anyway yeah

which gave me thought of how they could start the series basically it would have this is for the Expendables it would have a flashback of a bad child actor playing a young semester Geraint Wynne Davies. That was the name of McKnight. Geraint.

G-E-R-A-I-N-T. Geraint. Yeah. What? Is that a name? Yeah. Okay. I think it was in 24 as well.

Anyway. Jack Bauer. You could put him in the Expendables TV series. Would you really? He wouldn't do it. Yeah, he would. No. Why wouldn't he? Do you like Jack Bauer. You can put him in the Expendables TV series. Would you really? He wouldn't do it. Yeah, he would. No. Why wouldn't he?

Do you like Jack Bauer? He's fine. He's completely unrelatable. Yeah. Basically, it would start with a flashback of a bad child actor. Nick Knight. Is that it? Regular Nick Knight.

Vampire Nick Knight. Cop Nick Knight. He's got a gun. How good is that? It's really good. Yeah, really good, right? Yeah. Basically, it would start with a flashback of a bad child actor playing a young Sylvester

Stallone or something. I don't know. He gets home and he calls out to his mum. His mum comes out with a shotgun and yells at the kids who were chasing him. Sorry, I forgot to mention that. Oh, yes. Young Sylvester Stallone says, stop or my mum will shoot. You better get back if you don't want a bullet to the head.

Good. solid. All right, yep. The kids, they run away. His mom then asks, how was his day? And he replies, it was a bit rocky. He's got brackets here, puns intended. Very good. Thanks.

That would be an astounding coincidence if everything in that sentence was a pun and it was an accident. Do you think it'd be all puns, the whole thing? I hope so. The official legs longer than stilt man of the podcast. Great. That sounds amazing. I am not on board with an Expendables TV show.

I think the Expendables as a concept is crap. Right. No, the concept's okay. The execution is garbage. Yeah, definitely. I don't like Sylvester Stallone. Fair enough. Yeah, you've mentioned him so many times.

That's a celebrity I'd kill. I'd kill Stallone. Would you use the ultimate nullifier? nah just hit him with a baseball bat oh great even better how about for the Expendables TV series David Hasselhoff is a recurring guest character

as multiple different roles so he could be he could be Michael Knight from Knight Rider he could be What's His Face from Baywatch he could come back Mitch something he could come back as the same version butFace from Baywatch. He could come back. Mitch something. Mitch something. He could come back as the same version, but the detective from Baywatch Nights.

Other stuff. How did he become a detective? I don't know, but it got weird, and it became just The X-Files, essentially, like a really low-budget The X-Files. Okay. It was pretty great. Was he still Baywatching during the day?

Yeah, he was Baywatching during the day, and then he'd go and do it at night. And he was detecting at night, hence the name Baywatch Nights. Did any of the other people... I don't know. Where did he sleep? I guess while he was in the water. On the sand.

Yeah. Pretty good. That would be great. Yeah. I'm all for that. He could be Nick Fury. He could be white Nick Fury from TV miniseries Nick Fury. Yeah.

Do you want to see this though? Yes, now that I do. Is Lorenzo Lamas going to be involved? I hope so, yeah. Yeah, they could bring back all my favourites. Yeah, they could. That's my only favourites. MacGyver.

MacGyver could come back. Yeah, but would it be MacGyver? Duncan MacLeod from Highlander. Yes. What's his face? Adrian Paul is his name. Adrian Paul. Would you rather see the characters

or did they just do the actors obviously, but I can be great if they did the actual characters. I mean, you couldn't cause they're all owned by different networks, but wouldn't that be amazing? Like the expendables would be better if like, Oh,

this is Rambo and the commando and this is Rocky for villain. You know what I mean? Ivan Drago. Yeah. Yeah. And this is Jet Li from the one multiple dimensions. Yeah. I don't know. It's and this is Jet Li from The One from multiple dimensions or whatever yeah

it's Jet Li from Unleashed so he's a dog man so he's a and also Bob Hoskins from Unleashed he's dead you bloody what yeah

yeah he is dead isn't he yeah anyway this has gone on way too long this whole episode says you I'm just getting into gear mate

I also got this just a short one here please everybody email in if you have ideas for characters or for actors

who should be in the TV expandables because I would love to hear some Z-list characters you have to go through them fine I will I'm not going through them

fine because it's your idea alright fine tweet them at me alright at wikipedia bro correct this is from Cameron who's a huge fan of the show.

He said, has anyone ever called you guys the weak, W-E-A-K, weekly planet of the podcast, like as an insult? Because that'd be a good one. Oh, no. What if you read that out now? Everybody's going to know our weakness. W-E-K-N-E-S-S. Oh.

Yeah. Very good. Yes. No. No one has ever done that. But that's a pretty good one. Yeah, you're right. Pretty good, yeah. W-E-K-N-E-S-S Oh Yeah Yes No No one's ever done that But that's a pretty good one Yeah you're right Yeah Yeah

Bloody goddess Yeah Also just quickly Sam Eaton A.K.A. the official Shinji That finally got In the fucking robot

Of the podcast Yep I don't know what that means That's a Neo Genesis Evangelion Reference I think Yeah Wants to know When we'll do a commentary.

Hopefully this week. Yeah, we'll do it this week. And we've got another one that we want to bang out pretty soon. Oh, yeah. We'll keep that one a surprise. Yeah. Electra. It's not Electra.

It's not Electra. Yeah. Guys, bring up. I don't know whether this is the forum for it. I was speaking to you about this the other day because it's so ridiculous. Yes. A alcohol company offered me two and a half grand to put a whiskey ad in a video. Huh.

Did I tell you that? No, that's amazing. I turned it down. Wow. Because I'm not, look, don't get me wrong, I want two and a half grand. Yeah, definitely, yeah. But like, I can't sell alcohol to children. Like, the kids watch. Oh, right, yeah, good point.

Like, I'm not going to be like, drink whiskey or whatever. How long was the ad? How long did they want the ad to be? I have no idea. I just said, I went back and said, listen, thank you i appreciate it yeah but no essentially fair which means i have some moral core which is nice yeah but yeah i mean i've had a few offers like i know the shaving company offered some money or whatever shading shaving company shading like a like a shady company was a dollar shave club yeah or something like that Which I'm not against, but would people care if I put like a short ad in to, you know,

pay some bills or whatever? People should email in. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. And am I an idiot for turning down two and a half grand? Oh yeah, definitely. Yes.

Although, that's quite low considering your videos get a lot of hits. Like if you were like, things you missed about alcoholism, four things you missed and you put it in there, you get a million views. Four things you missed. Your family. Yeah things you missed and you put it in there you get a million views. Four things you missed. Your family. Yeah. The respect of your peers. Your job.

Not living in your car. Your liver. Yeah. Yeah. And you get like a million hits on a million views. I mean that doesn't happen that often.

Yeah but two and a half grand is pretty low for that. Yeah. Yeah you're right. It is. It's not enough money. Yeah. But yeah.

I don't know. I just thought I'd throw that out there. That's ridiculous though. That's the show for. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I just thought I'd throw that out there. That's ridiculous though. That's the show for this week. Absolutely. Next week, maybe something. Yeah, we'll do something. Maybe we'll do Spider-Man.

Yeah. Maybe something else. Let's talk about the Expendables TV series. If we're going to do Spider-Man, if people got a best Spider-Man moment or story, write it in and I'll try and include a few. Again, we got a lot of emails this week and a lot of good ones and I just had to cull. Oh, yeah. Man, I got a dude from Zimbabwe wrote in.

He was a nice guy. We got just a bunch of people. So, yeah. Great. Thank you for that. No, thank you. Me. I don't know who was talking to you there.

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we've got to get on that Reddit as well oh totally yeah Michael was the guy from Zimbabwe right hello Michael

he wants to know why you don't like my little brother but that's a whole episode it's a story for another day it's a whole episode yeah scrap yourselves in

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