The Weekly Planet - 81 Star Wars Original Trilogy & The New Joker

Episode Date: April 27, 2015

Star Wars! Ever heard of it? Regardless this week we’re talking the original trilogy in all it’s glory plus the Joker’s controversial new look, Fantastic Four, Furious 8 and more. What a time to be alive or whatever. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows and not games and friendship and wonder and awe and sacrifice and journeying and trust and speed and agility. I don't have any more. Drink Coke. I thought you were drinking that when you came in or did you bring two cans of Coke? Yeah, I brought two cans of Coke and I drank one. What is wrong with you?

No, that's not true. Okay. It's not true. It's too many Cokes, mate. Should we introduce ourselves? Oh, yeah. I'm James, Mr. Sunday Movies. That's who I am. I'm Nick Mason. I'm a regular human man. Both of us. But I'm drinking a sweet coke.

That does sound pretty good. We saw Avengers 2 this week, but we can't talk about it. Can't talk about it. We've been embargoed. We haven't. We could talk about it. We could, but... But we thought, well, wait a week, and that way Everybody in the world Then will mostly have seen it Okay here's a spoiler alert for you

For Avengers Age of Ultron Yeah When we saw it There was nothing at the end credits Yes Like at the end Yeah But that happened last time

Yeah When the first Avengers movie came out There was nothing at the end credits When we saw it Oh with the Then they added in the shawarma bit That's true actually Yeah

So So American listeners Maybe stay till the end, maybe don't. Who knows? They've come out and said, we're not doing it. Oh, really? So I feel like... There'll be a backlash.

No, I feel like... There was backlash. Based on what we saw, yeah. We'll talk about that next week. Okay, yeah. We can talk about it now. People were like, oh, what? The best part of that

that was you laughed like a maniac I did and everyone was so upset you were like ah it's pretty good everyone was so angry

I knew it was coming yeah so that was really good but speaking of Marvel movies but I say they've got no one to blame but themselves because clearly

they were all huge nerds no I mean the audience oh right yeah because they were all huge nerds and they were there opening night mean the audience. Oh, right. Yeah. Because they're all huge nerds. And they were there opening night, pre-opening night. Yeah. And then they should have looked it up.

I mean, we knew. We knew. We know nothing. Yeah. Yeah. But even so, even if you did, like, I knew there was nothing, but I'm like, I still have to stay. Exactly.

Just in case there's something. It's that bloody Pavlov's bloody dog thing or whatever. It's sort of related to that. Or is it the Shroddage's cat? What other scientific experiments could it be involving animals? It's probably the dog and the cat. It's sort of related to that. Or is it the Schrodinger's cat? What other scientific experiments could be involving animals? It's probably the dog and the cat having a scuffle. Okay, cool. I'm all about the foley art this week.

Oh, I see. Is that what that's called? It's a dog and a cat having a fight. It's pretty good. All right, well, let's get into... People asked, why did we talk about the Fantastic Four trailer last week? Okay, great. The second one.

Because it wasn't out by the time we saw it. Also, last week when we talked about trailers, the Star Wars Rogue One trailer was not out. Also, exactly. But we'll be talking about that. But nobody really wanted us to, and also haven't watched it. Oh, we can do that.

Okay, I'll watch it real quick. Sure, at some point. Well, we'll do it just before we talk about it. How about that? Okay, great. Yeah. Well, anyway, the new Fantastic Four trailer, we just both that. Okay, I'll watch it real quick. Sure, at some point. Yeah. Well, we'll do it just before we talk about it. How about that? Okay, great. Yeah. Well, anyway, the new Fantastic Four trailer, we just both re-watched it because it's been a week.

Yep. What did you think of it? Yeah, good. Yeah. I enjoyed it. Tell you what, because when we saw Age of Ultron, actually when I saw Age of Ultron for the second time because I saw it in 2D.

Double up! Because 3D is garbage. Yes, thank you. They played the original Fantastic Four trailer, which is the super interstellary one oh yeah and the new this this new one they've dropped all pretense of that because Interstellar is done yeah so now they're like it's back to superhero origin yeah do you think that's a reaction to people going it's very serious isn't it I don't think anybody thought

about it that much I think people probably forgot about it completely because it took me a re-watch of that original trailer to remember that that's what they did. So I think they're just like, oh, Age of Ultron's coming out, Ant-Man's coming out, let's do a superhero-esque trailer. That's it. Well, it's definitely a lot more fun. There's gags and stuff.

You get more personality out of each of them. You get Johnny Storm wisecracking. You get Rick Richards being a nerd. You get the girl. I don't think she does anything beyond that. She does a bit of wisecracking. Oh, she does too. She calls him a jerk or whatever. And then you get the muscle. Yeah. I don't think she does anything beyond that. She does a bit of wisecracking. Oh, she does too. She calls him a jerk or whatever. Yeah.

And then you get the muscle. Yeah. Who's looking very muscular. So muscular. Very. I mean, you don't have to be muscular to be the muscle. Yeah. Do you? You don't have to be the muscle to turn into the thing.

No. It helps. But it would help if he had that mindset at all somehow. Like, he doesn't look like he's grown up with that mindset. No. Yeah. I'm trying to think of somebody who's- He looks like he grew up in a he's grown up with that mindset no yeah i'm trying to think of somebody looks like he grew up in a neighborhood of real sickly kids and he just he just was the muscle

by default which is maybe that's true like i don't know well joe pesci was the muscle in uh goodfellas yeah okay and he was like a tiny lunatic it's true yeah i don't know maybe they go for more of that but look the thing is mostly mocap. So it doesn't, I guess it doesn't really matter. I think it looks great. The thing. I agree. I completely agree.

A lot of people don't like it though. It's the best one so far. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Absolutely it is. I heard someone complain he doesn't have his brow, his thing brow. Okay, right, right, right. What do you think of that?

No, I'm good with that. I think he's got some brow. Yeah, he's got enough brow, I think. Yeah. Also, we haven't seen him speak yet with that. I think he's got some brow. Yeah, he's got enough brow, I think. Yeah. Also, we haven't seen him speak yet. No. Or move. Or move, really.

Like his eyes or anything, or his eyebrows or brow. And Age of Ultron has raised the CGI eyebrow game. Boy, has it. In a big way. Yeah. Look, overall, it definitely looks better than what it initially did. Yes. Yeah, I mean, it remains to be seen.

It literally remains to be seen. Yes, it does. Cautiously optimistic. Yes, good. And it's good to see their power. Oh, you see Doom as well. And he looks... It's a different...

It's a better look at him than what we've seen before. Yeah. And they're still going with Doom is kind of... He's cosmic powered. Yeah. He's a weird metal man. Yeah. He's not like a techno... Well, maybe he is a technological genius.

Yeah. Just put him in a suit of armor. I'm not cautiously optimistic anymore. I've crashed and burned straight away. But he has to be – he has to go and get scarred up and whatever. Yeah, true. But it looks like that mask is a different mask than what we've seen before. Oh, okay.

So I think he might upgrade. Okay, good. And then they have to use teamwork to defeat him again. Oh, so the teamwork will be good. They have to use their powers, which I think Superman has most of those powers, to defeat. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Except Superman can't do a force field, can he? Or turn into a rock. Correct. Or stretch. Can't stretch. And he can't go invisible. You've really embarrassed us here.

We're going to get emails. Good. Yep. All right. Furious. Anything else to say? No, that's it. All right.

Furious 7 is getting it. Well, what can you say about a Fantastic Four reboot? They're still making a sequel to it. Obligation. They have to make it legally or they lose the rights. Furious 8 has a release date. Oh, yes. The sequel to Furious 7. Is it the 8th of the rights uh furious 8 has a uh release date oh yes the sequel to furious 7 uh is it the 8th of the 8th for some reason it's not it's april 17th 2017 okay i don't think that's significant at all no not at all uh vin diesel's like it look it's what paul walker would

have wanted and we're gonna make it the best one ever for him and and whatever and at a few of his press conferences he sung that Paul Walker tribute song. I don't know if you've seen any of those videos. I have not. It's nice. Did he write a Paul Walker tribute song? No, you know, it's at the end when Paul Walker flies into the sky or whatever. In the grace car, yeah.

In the grace car. Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember what it's called. I could sing it. I'm not going to. Just look up Vin Diesel CEO and then you'll know. So look, it's no surprise. You happy it's continuing i am now yeah more

the rock i've only seen once i'm not burned out i've only seen furious seven so yeah yeah i think you could i really i think you can watch them in any order yeah that's what i figured i think more the rock because i think that's we didn't mention that when we when we talked about it he's not in it that much no he's kind of he's in at the start he's in at the end he's just sort of seen in the middle a bit mm-hmm but come on if you get the rock use the rock he's the bloody rock yeah yeah dracon he'd be a good the thing or is he too much muscle he's too much muscle yeah yeah okay he'd be become the thing and to be like well this didn't really add a lot except now now I'm orange. Don't you reckon...

I can't remember who said this. Bruce Willis would be a good... In fact, The Rock would be a better name for The Thing when you think about it. Yes, it would be. That's a good point. Bruce Willis would be a good voice of The Thing if he did it with enthusiasm. So he wouldn't be a good voice for The Thing? Yeah, I guess so.

You're right. You got me there. You got me there. It's like saying Harrison Ford would be a good choice for this if he did it with enthusiasm. I guess so, you're right. You got me there. You got me there. It's like saying Harrison Ford would be a good choice for this if he did it with enthusiasm. You wouldn't, though. No. Anyway, Frank Miller, we've talked about before how he's returning.

Crazy old Frank Miller. Here we go. He's capping off his Dark Knight Returns trilogy. The third one now has a name. It's called The Dark Knight, The Master Race. Oh, boy. Where's this going to go? This is coming out fall.

Fall of... Fall of 20. Why are they letting him do another series? Well, they're technically not letting him. In a way. Anyway, it's coming out this fall in the Northern Hemisphere. Okay. So spring here.

It is co-writing with Brian Azzarello. Oh, okay. Yep, sure. Who did 100 Bullets? 100 Bullets, yeah. Yeah, which I've still got to finish reading. It's going to be eight issues and it's twice monthly. So they're burning them out, which is good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I don't think I'm fairly – last time I said that Scott Snyder was doing it, who was doing the current Batman run. Right, okay. But I guess they've changed that. And I'm not sure –

they didn't mention who's doing the art. Not in this announcement anyway. They might have in the old one. What if it's Frank Miller? Yeah, that's the thing. I don't think he... Crazy old Frank Miller. But I don't think he's physically capable.

Right, okay. I think he's... Yeah, he's not like as young and whatever and quick as he used to be. And also, you saw the art in The Dark Knight Strikes Again or whatever it's called. Yes, I did. Yeah. So... So you were saying technically they're not letting him do this well technically then he's co-writing it oh i see right i feel like so they're like well they they we want the frank miller name attached but we don't want him to go off the rails we don't

want somebody else in exactly we'll get scott snyder oh and he's not doing it anymore because he had to deal with crazy old frank miller yeah so i'm i want to see it i want to read it yeah me too i don't know what it will turn out like i feel like at the end of the second one or during the second one they just kind of forgot batman was old right yeah that's true he's just kind of like like he must be like 70 at least probably nanotechnology yeah but he's just like Batman-ing about. Okay, either. I reckon either. Based on the name, it's either going to be a Ra's al Ghul story, because that would be

Master Race. That makes sense. Okay. Or it's just Frank Miller being racist. But he's not racist, is he? I don't know. I don't know. I couldn't say.

He has a lot of thoughts. He does have some thoughts, doesn't he? Yeah. I know that Alan Moore doesn't he? Yeah. I know that Alan Moore doesn't like him. Because I know they've got very opposite political viewpoints. Right, exactly. Yeah. And that's what that is.

Boy. Well, I'm excited for that. Boy, yes. Before we get into the, I'd say, the biggest news of the week. Oh, yes. Do you have any other news? Is the biggest news of the week the new Joker reveal? Yeah. That's what it was going the week the new Joker reveal? Yeah.

That's what I was going to talk about, that one. So this happened yesterday. Well, Saturday for us, Sunday now. What did you think of it? Okay, we've talked about it before. You know you watch a movie and it's a PG-rated movie and there's graffiti on the walls? Yes.

And the graffiti is always like PG-rated graffiti, like you suck or I like rap. Yeah, exactly. That's the equivalent of this. That's what it like you you know what ever when hit legend was announced as a joke yeah there's you can you can even see it somebody's made a like a collage of people hating on that idea from you know reddit and twitter and all the places yes and he turned out great yeah so i'm optimistic about this yes but those tattoos are so weird. Yeah.

It's very good Charlotte. It's very Marilyn Manson. Yes. It's very, just to name another. Di Atwood. Yeah. I think he has a tattoo of a penis on him. Okay, right.

Somewhere as well. But that would make more sense. Not the Joker. Right, right. The guy from D'Angelo. Yeah, yeah. Ninja from D'Angelo. Sorry, that's his name.

Sorry. Yeah. Okay, here's the thing. The tattoos from D'Android. Yeah, yeah. Ninja from D'Android. Sorry, that's his name. Sorry. Yeah. Okay, here's the thing. The tattoos don't make, they only make sense if he got them before he was the Joker. Okay. And then he became the Joker. Because if he got them afterwards. He would have had to sit, go in and request them.

Yeah. Because he hasn't. Can I have ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha? Yeah, because they're not like, they'll be better if there was maybe one mad scrawl down him. Yes. But it's very stylised. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the font is very...

Right. You know what I mean? And I don't mind the big smiley mouth one on his arm, I guess. I don't even mind the Joker card one. No, that's... What gets me is the ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. What about damage? Damaged on his head.

Like, that's... Because he... Because the... See, well, the Heath Ledger Joker certainly doesn't think he's crazy. Yeah. He thinks he's perfectly sane. Yeah.

In order to get that, you'd have to be a massive attention whore. And... Yeah, yeah. I guess... I mean... It's like... Like if you met a guy

who had damaged on his head. Yeah. You'd be like, well, you can't be that damaged, can you? Really? It's a very nice font. Yeah, it's a a great font you sat still for that whole thing yeah look i made a video how look it's not gonna it's not the end of the world and look this will hinge on the performance more than anything else oh yeah totally but it's it's it's it's odd there's some

odd choices there's some very odd choices yeah actually i don't mind the teeth i don't mind the teeth it makes sense because batman would have knocked them out so many times. Right, exactly. That he would have had them replaced and whatever that was. Yeah, totally, yeah. Yeah, like I would, I think the, like, you know, Nightcrawler and the Alan Cumming Nightcrawler in X-Men 2. He had a lot of tattoos and it was odd. Yeah.

But they weren't that distracting. I mean, I think that whole Nightcrawler design was over-designed. Sure. But it's not as distracting because you can't individually pick out all the tattoos. No, yeah. I think if maybe they were all illegible scrawl, or he'd done them himself, or they were, I don't know, almost anything else. Like bands, or people he'd killed. Sure.

If he'd done them himself or something. I think there was rumoured scars at one point. Okay, yeah. That would be better. From being stabbed or doing it himself or whatever. Uh-huh. Yeah. But yeah, like, again, if the origin of him is this weird poser punk rock guy,

and then he falls in the vat of chemicals and then he becomes the Joker, perfect sense. Sure. But I think, like, with the Heath Ledger Joker, and we keep going back to it because it was a real good Joker. Yeah, it was. Like, everything about his design, like, speaks to some weird origin that we're not privy to.

Like, we don't quite know where any of it came from. Like, why does he have the suit? Exactly. Why does he dress like that? We don't know. He buys the suit during, like, at the start from the bank robbery money because he doesn't wear that. And then he comes in with it and they're like,

and he's like, I bought this suit with your money or whatever it was interesting okay but that's an interesting choice even then to just go well i'm gonna wear the most flamboyant suit possible yeah yeah show off yeah but i stole all your money right exactly yeah and like why has he decided to dye his hair why is he wearing face paint why does he have the why does he have why is that the scars why does he do any of we don't know any of those things. Yeah. And look, again, I don't... I think Jared Leto will be fine as the Joker. Yeah, absolutely. I think he'll nail it.

Do you think he'll be shirtless the whole time? I don't think so. I think they'll have to make him, because he looks like he's been working out. Right. So I think there'll be parts of it. I think maybe he appears... Here's my speculation,

that when we first see him, he's shirtless in Arkham Asylum or in prison or whatever. Doing chin-ups or whatever. Doing chin-ups or whatever. Because the Joker does keep fit in the Lone Incarnate. He has to. Yeah, yeah. But then he puts on his Joker clothes and we don't see him.

Okay, sure. But I think the mistake here, and if we saw that at the movies, maybe we'd be like, you know, just for a few seconds, we'd be like, oh, look, he's all tatted up. What's the story there? But having seen it in like this super crisp HD image just looks weird. There's also the other, some people have mentioned because it's the 75th anniversary of the Joker. That's why they released it. That those aren't, those tattoos aren't going to be in the final design. Okay.

Right. That like, this is just to kind of highlight some of the things that he's about, I guess. Okay, all right. Which is, he's got a jester and a damaged on his hand. Have they started filming? They have started filming. I think they have.

They're doing principal photography. Yeah, I would say maybe if they haven't filmed the shirtless scenes, maybe now is time to rethink those designs. Yeah. And look, and you know what? It could totally work. Yeah. We could see it and go, oh, that makes total sense

why he has those things. You know what I think would be fun? What? Different tattoos in every scene. Okay. Like they keep changing. Like no explanation. Yeah.

We're not like, oh, it's magic or whatever, but it's just sort of this element of him that's, you know, he's so chaotic that every time you're like, is it the same? Is it different? Yeah, that's that's really i like that idea if you're listening david ayer david ayer yeah that's the guy do that yeah but yeah look again it remains to be seen i'm still excited for it i mean and as i said in the video they every interpretation of the joker is different yeah and they're all drawing on other Jokers and reinterpreting them, whatever, whatever.

So there's no wrong design, ultimately. No, and at the end of the day, they'll change it again. Yeah. They could even change it again in this same universe in the next movie. I'm also, like, if they embrace him being this weird poser, good Charlotte punk rock guy, fine. Sure.

Yeah. But don't be like, look how tough this guy is because he's got a ha ha ha tattoo you know i'm not buying that i'm not buying the damaged tattoo if he thinks he's a tough guy do you think it would have been better if the tattoo the ha ha ha would look like he'd done them himself and they were upside down like he'd drawn them on himself yeah maybe or none maybe he's got some and then the last last tattoo gun stroke is a really long line because he's killed a tattoo artist midway. If all the tattoos had that, indicating that he'd killed the artist as soon as they'd finished,

I think that would work. Sure, yeah. Look, I like the hair. I like how he looks in general. He's got the good build. He looks crazy. Yeah, yeah. It'll probably be fine.

Totally. Yeah. Anyway, I've got a letter here. Do you want to hear it? Yeah. Do you want to read it? No. In your head. Okay. he looks crazy yeah yeah like it'll probably be fine totally yeah anyway I got a letter here do you want to hear it yeah or do you want to read it no

in your head okay I'll just read it okay good hello there I'm just returning from the Star Wars celebration in Anaheim oh yes

which was four days of intense Star Wars fandom with more than 50,000 attendees this was last weekend for those not in the know Star Wars celebration weekend they showed off BB-8 boy did they someone sent me a video of a guy making his own yeah I watched that Last weekend for those not in the know, Star Wars Celebration weekend. They showed off BB-8. Boy, did they.

Someone sent me a video of a guy... Making his own. Yeah, I watched that. And I was like, I don't understand a lot of this, but I respect it. The main highlight was the announcement of trailers being released left and right amidst thousands of avid fans. Gareth Edwards presented the Rogue One teaser

and revealed the spin-off movies will be known as the Anthology series. The trailer had a gritty front line of war vibe that was similar to the look of the Halo Live series. Love the show. Looking forward to the original trilogy episode of the Weekly Planet, which we may get to in a moment, Mason. Oh, should I watch the Rogue One trailer now?

I'll watch it now. Yeah, it's more of a teaser. It's not nothing, mate. Well, that's what I... Yeah, because not a huge number of people were like, that's crazy. Why didn't you put it in there? Because, you know.

Yeah, because there's only a leaked version. We have that Halo Live series on Netflix. We do. Yeah, we're getting money from them, aren't we? We are not getting any money from them. They don't need our money. If anything, we are literally giving them money for Netflix. That's a good point.

All right, here we go. Lifestyles of the rich and the famous. Always complaining. Always complaining. Always complaining. Oh, God, where is it? Is it this top one? Is it the one from IGN?

Probably not. Actually, someone actually emailed it to me. Okay, great. So I can probably find it for you if you want. What a hassle. What a chore my life is. So thank you, Cyrus, for emailing. He actually emailed a version to me.

Oh, it is a fan-made trailer. No, I got it right here. Okay, great. So Cyrus has come through, Mason. Great, thank you, Cyrus. He's done what you couldn't do. Look at a thing on the internet. Yeah, I've never been able to do that.

There you go. Great. Say thank you, Cyrus. Thank you, Simon. Mean it! Oh, man. You know, man. Mean it!

This is just the Jurassic World trailer. Should I be reacting to this live? React. I don't want to. It's the next big thing on the internet, but I don't like it. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't, yeah. It's the next big thing on the internet, but I don't like it. Yeah, I don't do it either. Wee! There's really nothing to that. No.

Well, it's a teaser. They haven't started filming. They're still even talking about casting at the moment. I just wanted to ask you. You mentioned reacting live on the internet. Yeah. What are your thoughts on that? I hate it.

It's dumb. Everybody who does it is dumb. Sure. Yeah, I don't do it. Should I? No. I feel like, I don't know, because I do the things you missed or whatever, which is equally as pandering and clickbait kind of whatever.

Yeah, but at least you write some stuff down. Sure. Yeah, yeah. I guess so. I'm sorry if everybody, all of our listeners do reaction videos. I just have no interest. Sure. No, of course.

Why do you care what some guy thinks of whatever? Or girl. But also, they can be done well if somebody's interesting. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Also, you love it when people cry during these things, don't you? Anyway, do you want to know about Rogue One, what we know about it?

Okay, let's hear about it. All right. Okay, so it is a heist movie. Yes. Yeah, I thought you'd be happy with that. Because when it was titled Rogue One, it threw a few people, including me. Because there was going to be a Red 5 movie.

I was like, oh, this is going to be like an X-Wing movie. It's going to be a heist of still the Death Star plans and it takes place before episode four there's also some promo weird if it took place after that well it could because there's another death star not that weird though but basically it's so it's a it's a war movie gareth edwards we got the plans for the death star you mean the one we just we just blew it up? Yeah, but we can put them up on the wall or something. Look how good they are. Holograms.

Holograms. Because there wasn't a hologram in A New Hope, do you remember? It was just a little blip, blip, blip, blip, blip. And then Return of the Jedi, they were like, look at this hologram.

Look at all the technology we have now. Yeah, so it's set in a world where there are Jedi in the universe. It's actually set at the same time as Star Wars Rebels. Okay.

I don't think you've seen any of that. No. I've seen like one episode, which I got actually watched through. But apparently it's good. Freddie Prinze Jr. is in it. Ooh. Wait, voice off? Yes.

Okay. No, he's the only live action member. Live action character. Yeah, great. It's like Space Jam with Freddie Prinze Jr. Hey, it's me, Freddie Prinze Jr. What am I doing in the Star Wars universe? It's more Bobby's World then, isn't it?

Yeah, it is, yeah. Which we talked about the other day. Yeah, anyway. So, yeah, and basically the idea is the Jedi aren't coming. Oh, right, sure. Like, it's just like, these are just guys. There's no space magic police who are going to step in and solve anything. Like, they're on their own.

Good, finally. Yeah. Well, yeah, which is better, I think, especially in that era. I mean, you could potentially, there's characters you could get, like the Freddie Prinze Jr. character, and you could get, say, Obi-Wan Kenobi or whatever, but he doesn't even know that that's there. When he first saw the Death Stars, it's Death Stars, like, what's going on here? Right, right.

He didn't know. So, I think it's a great idea. How many Jedi are in hiding at the time of A New Hope? Is the plural of Jedi, Jedi? It's Jedims. Oh, okay. How many Jedims? How many Jedims?

Couldn't say. It seems to be a lot. It used to be a lot. It's changed. Right. Because the continuity. At the moment, there's probably more than this. There's Obi-Wan.

There's Kananan who's the freddie prins guy right and he's got an apprentice okay and kanan was he's got actually got an interesting backstory which i should look into more he oh and also uh ahsoka anakin skywalker's apprentice uh who's name ahsoka something she's going to turn up in rebels tv show as well so there's i don't know there's those guys don't know, there's those guys. There's probably more. There's probably tons. Yeah, no doubt. But yeah, they're not going to, I don't think they're going to be drawing on them.

But Kanan is, I hope his name's Kanan. I hope it's not. He was a Padawan when all this went down and then he just gave it up. Like he became a smuggler and then he kind of picks it back up again, which is interesting. I like that.

So he was one of the children that was not killed at the time of episode three. Yeah, he might have been like, he's probably 35, 40. Okay, right. So, yeah. Yeah, I like that. And he's got a ponytail, so. Great.

Bald and a ponytail? No, unfortunately. That's a shame. Yeah. Just imagine Freddie Prinze Jr. with a ponytail. Oh, I always do. So yeah, if we know Felicity Jones is in it, which is great. There's also rumoured that Riz Ahmed, have you seen Nightcrawler?

Yes. He's the guy, he's cameraman in it. Oh, okay, cool. He's rumoured to be in it. And Sam Claffin, who's the dude from Hunger Games. Good foley work. With the spear. Thank you.

Oh, yeah sure sure with the trident so yeah great I'm really looking forward to it it's coming out next December so it's a year between Star Wars movies

I'm more excited for that than I am for The Force Awakens really? yep but you loved The Force Awakens trailer more than the Batman punches Superman one I don't think I did

I think you said those exact words I could be proven wrong by anybody listening to the last episode. Yeah. But nobody's going to go back. That's it.

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Which makes a lot of sense. Makes heaps of sense. But everybody will be doing a Star Wars episode then. That's right. And we're going to do Avengers next week, so why not switch things up? Yeah, and then also then we have to do a Star wars episode every may the 4th yeah let's not say that yeah i don't want to do that yeah absolutely i'm running out of stuff to say yeah real quick well let's see what you got to say about star wars in general mason can i ask you a question about star wars yes i've written this down okay what was your first memory of star wars

are we going to talk original trilogy just original trilogy and then on may the 4th no at some point down the line we'll do prequels and then we'll do spin-off or whatever okay sure sure anyway sorry go on watching star wars that's that was my first memory of star wars but you weren't actually you know what my first memory of star wars was i went to a birthday party and i was very young i can't remember how young i was but like i don't know five or something. And you got cracked with a stormtrooper rifle. Yeah, exactly.

Right in the mouth. Yeah. Sorry, guys. That was my whole perception of Star Wars. And everybody got a Star Wars toy, like an action figure. Really? And I got, and I can't remember what it was. We've had a conversation about this offline.

And by that, I mean in real life. Off the line. Off the line. Yeah. That it was, it wasn't like Luke Skywalker or like Chewbacca or Han Solo. Was it Ponda Bubba? It was like some garbage, like rebel admiral

or something like that. Like so one of the ones. Quicks Nadine? Yeah, probably Quicks Nadine. I don't know. One of them. Just one of the ones. Mon Mothma?

No, it wasn't Mon Mothma. Did he have a little white beard? Yes, I think he did. I think that's Quicks Nadine. He was like, I don't know, anyway. Whichever one he was, he was just a guy in a grey uniform with grey hair and kind of a grey complexion. And everybody else had Boba Fett and bloody Luke Skywalker or whatever. And I got that one.

And I'm like, oh, okay. If you can find who that is and tweet Mason Pieces. Give me some options. Give me some options, send me the box art or whatever, and I'll remember it probably. But it was not a good one. Yeah, it was not a good one. Well, actually, mine's similar, my experience.

I didn't see any of the original ones in the cinema. I wasn't alive. You probably wouldn't have seen them either, I'd imagine. No, I think I saw them on TV. Yeah, yeah. I got an Admiral Ackbar action figure. What? When I was like five.

An Admiral Ackbar action figure? Yeah. Did it say on the box, A-C-K-T-I-O-N? It did, yeah. Great. And I loved it, man. I love that bloody Admiral Ackbar action figure. Yeah, absolutely.

I think I might even still have it somewhere. But it was, I but it was i think it would have karate chop action but isn't that though indicative of how they market star wars yeah yeah like that's our first memories of star wars yeah a toy a toy of somebody we don't recognize right we received a toy and it was built into our brains. And so, yeah, I guess so even when we... So I just love how you got the... The garbage man, yeah. Not even bloody Admiral Ackbar,

which has weird retro nostalgia value, like dumb campy value. Look, I got a fish-headed man. I just got an action figure of an old guy. Great. Sorry. No, that's fine. Oh, God.

Yeah. But yeah, it's all toys. Really, so much of it is just designed to sell toys. And we can talk about that in a bit now that that kind of started. But that's how they've kind of kept the fandom alive. Yeah, that's why everybody loves Star Wars. Yeah. And nobody loves Star Trek.

Action figures. Yeah. There's a blitzkrieg of action figures every chance they get. Absolutely. Just rolling them out. Do you remember those Star Wars and Transformers combination action figures? I do remember that. They weren't that long ago, were they?

That was quite recent. Yeah. There was like a Darth Vader who turned into a TIE fighter. Yep. And Malakbar would turn into Grimlock. I don't think that's real. But make that happen if you could. Absolutely.

Yeah, for me though, I'd seen bits and pieces growing up, but I remember they put them on all on TV, which was like a big deal for some reason, which is ridiculous when you think about it. They were like, every Friday we're doing a new Star Wars. And I was like, oh my god, I love this. This is the best thing ever. So that was when I kind of first

all watched them. And then not long after that, they re-released them in 97 which did you go see them all? I did yeah yeah me too was this the special edition version?

special edition and I remember being so excited seeing the trailer that you wet yourself I wet myself a fine tradition that continues to this day every time you watch a trailer little did I know i'd already wet myself but i had that as cover like right but like do you remember seeing it in the cinema

anytime you wet yourself in public you're like i'm just watching this trailer that was thank god for iphones i tell you what uh yeah i used to have to carry my sega game gear around with the thing clipped in the top i didn't have a sega game gear do you remember that they're the tv things like you can watch tv that you can clunk this massive aerial into the top the bunny ears in it yeah amazing

but the trailer was it was just a TV and you saw Star Wars playing on this little TV and it's like now experience Star Wars on the big screen and the X-Wing

flies out of the TV and fills up the screen and I'd already seen it recently I was like oh my god that's amazing I have to go see that and

there was like the promise of all new stuff in it yeah which at the time i was like amazing there's more things i'm so glad uh-huh yeah yeah uh did you were you excited for that or were you like whatevs yeah because i've never seen him on the big screen okay yeah yeah absolutely so was this the the dawning of george lucas messing not only with the action sequences in the cg yeah but altering the narrative like having han shoot first and stuff i think so yeah that's when all that kind of all that started and now how many versions of these movies i couldn't i couldn't tell you they'd probably be at least four official at least right because there's they laser disc them oh yeah of course and then they did the special edition with that widescreen and regular screen yep on vhs and i think i had the

widescreen that was in a silver box like a darth vader box they also changed all the posters and they're not they're not as good as the classic you kind of right yeah i think the classic posters are much better and then they did them again i think in 2004 or 2005 and then i think they recently written then they did them a few years ago again in a big blu-ray box set and they added things like ewoks blinking great it works with i he works with eyelids and now they just they just announced they're going to digitally re-release them again oh in hd this time but they haven't but they haven't specified what version and everyone's like great what version is this?

And they haven't, maybe they have said something. Here's my guess. Yeah. Literally every version. Okay, they could, couldn't they? You can get whatever version you want. Yeah. And then people will buy every version.

Yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. People will buy every single version because they're like, well, what'll the special edition version, like what'll the CGI look like in Super super h you know hd or whatever you know not very good okay so go back though what was your first experience of watching them originally like pre it was on tv yeah it was i think did you love them originally i did just a thing to watch no i think i loved i remember we had my family had this house in the country yes that sounds fancy and it was i've been there yeah you've been there. Yeah.

It's not good, is it? No. Toilets are outside. Yeah, that's it. But it's just- My toilet has air quotes around it. Yeah, that's right. Barely functioning. Just walk out into the desert.

We had a VHS copy of- Have a better experience. Yeah. We had a VHS copy of Empire Strikes Back. If you can imagine, listeners, that cabin at the start of the ring where it's just desolation and then it's the TV and a VCR and you die there. It's a pop-up VCR as well. Yeah, that's your country house.

Yeah, absolutely. You are dead on. But I had a lot of bad memories man great but yeah so I've watched Empire Strikes Back a lot because there's nothing to do

down there as you know so you just had you just had one of the trilogy yeah well yeah at that point but I'd seen them all but that's the one I'd seen the most and the one I still like the

the most regardless but do you want to go through them film by film though okay sure so and you hope oh by the way just quickly George Lucas

is on record and filmed in the 80s late 80s saying through them film by film though okay sure so and you hope oh by the way just quickly george lucas is on record and filmed in the 80s late 80s saying they were going to basically restore color to old black and white movies like casablanca and whatever and he went on record of saying they should be preserved in their original format you're destroying art and blah blah blah uh-huh sure and now obviously he... Would you say though that he doesn't believe that Star Wars is art? That's very possible. Maybe he's changed... Like maybe...

I think the difference is that he sees them as his. And they are. Well, not we sold them now. Uh-huh. But it's got to a point where Star Wars is kind of everybody's now. Sure is. No, no, I just mean like you've made something so big. That's true.

And they don't seem to mind if you make a fan film or use the effects or cut up your own version and just put it on the internet or whatever. They probably have an issue with that. But mostly if you want to make a fan film or sell Stormtrooper suits or whatever, they don't seem to have a problem with any of those things. He's always been really good with that side of stuff. Because I think he's very particular about how he does things, but he's also very nurturing of other people's kind of fandom

and what they want to do, which he should be commended for. And that's the only thing he should be commended for. Also, giving billions of dollars to charity, I guess. Fine. Two things. Otherwise, what a garbage pile of a human being. Am I right? No, he's fine.

He's fine. They're just movies. They just are. You're right. Well, A New Hope wasn't also originally called A New Hope. It was just called Star Wars. And before that, it was just called The Star Wars. Yep.

There's a comic you can actually get of it where they've- And then before that, it was The Good Old Star Wars. Yeah, it was like a- It's a newish comic where they've taken his original screenplay and made it. So Luke's the Obi-Wan Kenobi kind of character, Han Solo's a green alien. Apparently, it's not very good. I've been meaning to read it, but it's very insightful as to how it kind of started and whatever. Watching A New Hope...

Well, it got changed to A New Hope. They added that title and an episode four to it because it was like a Flash Gordon-y kind of thing because he wanted, we talked about this, didn't we? I think so, yeah. He wanted Flash Gordon and they wouldn't give him Flash Gordon.

That's right. But it's always been, like, the thing about Star Wars is it was never intended to be a, to have two sequels and three prequels and then a million spin-offs, right?

Well, what happened originally, as part of his fee, he said, look, I don't want more money. Give me the rights to the sequels. Give me the rights to the toys. Oh, so there we go. Yeah, so he intended to it. So that's a product. Absolutely, yeah.

And look, I don't know whether he intended that. He obviously didn't know it was going to be this right because how could you possibly yeah yeah predict that right right but i think he had enough foresight to know this is it just hit at the right time yeah because all sci-fi was so dreary and kind of like it's a man who's stuck in a dystopian world and at the end he finds maybe he's a replica yeah and he kills himself or whatever the family guy do a really good parody of it where it's like the end of a 70s sci-fi movie anyway she's looking up but that's but my feeling is that like at the inception of star wars yeah he wasn't like okay i've got i've got plans and i think people have this idea that he had plans for

two sequels and three prequels because the first one's called Episode 4. That he had those three planned out perfectly and they were always in his mind and they were just unmade. They were all completely, fully fleshed out in his head and two sequels. And it was going to be this big thing with a clearly defined beginning and ending. But it wasn't. The first one's called Episode 4 because the premise is that it's like a Flash Gordon-esque serial. And you've jumped in. You've just walked into the theatre

because you want to see something and it happens to be the fourth episode. You're right. You don't need any pre-context. You pick it up. You don't need to know where it's going necessarily. No.

And a lot of it he did make up as you went along, but he did envision... Oh, you can't tell. No, I mean, but he did envision three films to start with because he had to split that down

because they're like, we don't have the budget for this. This is impossible to make. Right. And they barely managed to do the one at the time. But looking back on that movie. Apparently it was a nightmare to film. Oh, yeah.

Absolutely. There's a good documentary I can recommend during the What We Read. Oh, yes. But like that first movie, watching it now, it's very slow. That's true, yeah. And it's got the... Yeah, every movie of that era. Yeah, exactly.

It's very impressive, especially for the time. And it's got great characters. And it would have been very fast-paced for the time. Definitely. But it starts off with the battle, the starship going overhead. And that's amazing in itself. And then there's the battle on the spaceship. And then it's just droids wandering in the desert for 30 minutes.

Yes, it is. And like moisture farming and whatever. And then it kind of picks up again. People drinking blue milk or whatever. That's right. But it's of its time. But yeah, people were like, oh, it's got a crack in pace. It does not have a crack in pace.

But it's still great. I think it ages very well. I think people, I think with, you know, screenwriting classes and things like that, they often cite Star Wars as here's your classic action-adventure movie structure kind of thing. Yeah, exactly. Beginning, middle, end. Yes. We did it.

We did it. But I remember seeing an interview with Dean Devlin who wrote Independence Day. Right, yeah. Do you know who he is Devlin, who wrote Independence Day. Right, yeah. Do you know who he is? Yeah, among many other... Among many other things. 90s action movies. Yeah, but in the 90s, I saw this interview, and he's like, the first time I saw Star Wars...

He's the Roland Emmerich of those movies. Exactly right. No, they're the same guy. Same guy, pretty much. Yeah, the same project. But yeah, he was like, when I first saw Star Wars when I was a kid, and then Darth Vader entered, and everybody in the crowd booed, and he was like, how did everybody know to do that?

It was amazing. And I was like, because he's, look at him. Yeah. Like it's obvious. Like the music and the shooting guys and they're just like, what do you mean? Like it's, it's very obvious. He's surrounded by a phalanx of stormtroopers who are just shooting people in the back as they run away.

Like what are you, how do you, come they run away. Like, what are you... How do you... Come on. Exactly. Also, who's booing in a movie theatre? Did they boo in the 70s? People boo in the... People boo in the 70s. No. No. I think if you went to an audience where everybody's into it... Can you imagine

Star Wars Celebration? Yeah, but this is pre anybody knowing anything about Star Wars. Like, Yeah, but this is pre anybody knowing anything about Star Wars. Yeah, I guess you're right. Like it's 1979 and whenever it came out. This is Dean Devlin's story, man.

I don't know what to tell you. You can probably still find that interview. It's from like 97. Great. Yeah. I think people lied a lot in the 90s.

I don't doubt that. Yeah. People don't lie now. You go in. This is your first. This is everyone's first experience with Star Wars. You go in, you see a guy, he's all dressed in black, he's walking down a corridor.

You boo him. The audience boos him. What? I think, though, I think it's different here where we grew up. I think in the States in particular, people are more vocal in the cinema. I don't know whether that's true. I've never been there. Yep.

But I just think, yeah, from some stories I've heard. I've been there, but I didn't go to the cinema. That's probably true. I don't know whether that's true. I've never been there. Yep. But I just think, yeah, from some stories I've heard. I've been there, but I didn't go to the movies. I took in some culture. Good for you. Empire State Building? No. Bridges? Starbucks.

Just a whole bunch of Starbucks. Yeah. The only thing I'd say it ails is laughter. Yeah. And I remember the last time i think someone yelled something out was when the start of rocky and someone yelled adrian and then everybody the rocky six or whatever it was yeah and nobody laughed great and then he shut up good like i think that was the last time i heard someone yell something out which is great that is great yeah

but the characters are great right in that story, right? You seem very unsure about yourself. No, it's one of those things I won't go back and watch it anytime soon. Because I know it. You won't even watch it pre-Force Awakens? No. Really? I don't need to. That's true, yeah.

It's embedded in your skull forever. You can just look at your Adam Blackbar action figure. Exactly. It'll just waft into your brain again. But yeah, everybody on set was like, this is not going to be figure. Exactly. It all just wafted into your brain again. But yeah, like everybody on set was like, this is not going to be good. Right. Like everybody.

Even Harrison Ford? Eternal optimist Harrison Ford? But he's probably... When he was a young grandpa? He was 33 when he made that. Wow. Yeah. So he's older than I thought he was when he made it.

But everyone else was like, Mark Hamill was like 24 and Carrie Fisher was like 19. Right, right, okay. But yeah, and Alec he was when he made it. But everyone else was like, Mark Hamill was like 24, Carrie Fisher was like 19. Right, right, okay. But yeah, and Alec Guinness notoriously hated it. He was also 33. He was also 33. But he was very gentlemanly about it.

Apparently he was really good on set. Yeah, yeah. I think there are letters that he sent to people in England and things like that that are like, I'm working on this garbage movie. I don't... Don't care for it, quite frankly. Yeah, yeah. He's also wearing a wig in those movies. I don't... Don't care for it, quite frankly. Yeah, yeah.

He's also wearing a wig in those movies. Yeah, so I've got great wig, Dar, as we've talked about. Yes. I trust your judgment. Do you remember the Obi-Wan Kenobi Darth Vader fight? The incredibly slow one? Yeah. Yeah.

It's originally for the... It's like four strokes. It is, yeah. Those were like poles that had like a rotating, like kind of reflective film strip. Okay, sure. And that's how they originally did the lightsabers. So it was just kind of this, and you watch the behind the scenes

and there's just this weird clacking and buzzing kind of situation. It would really be impossible to tell, like we've never been on a movie set, but it would really be impossible to tell if you're working on a good movie or a bad movie. Especially something like this. In almost all cases.

Even now. Especially now. Yeah. Because you could be working... Actually, if you're working on a movie and it's entirely green screen. Yeah. Like you're just standing in front of green screens. Yeah.

It's probably going to be bad. It's probably Sin City 2. Yeah, it's probably a Sin City film. Or Sky Captain. Or you've gone back in time and you're working on the Star Wars prequels. But it would be really hard. Like impossible to tell. You'd have to base it on...

Script. Script, or you have... But even then they might chew it up in editing or whatever. You'd have to base it on the director. You'd have to trust the director implicitly. Definitely. And kind of like, oh, what's the production company's track record like? What else have they done?

But I mean... And even then there's no guarantees. Like the prequels guarantees like the prequels like the prequels exactly which we're not talking about not talking about until next time

alright fine there was talk about actually it was rumoured that they were going to go back and digitally alter that Obi-Wan fight to make it more somersaulty

wow okay I don't know whether that but you know what the somersaults are the least impressive parts of those last ever battles absolutely think about that Yoda

we're not talking about the prequels think about that Yoda Yoda Darth yeah what's about the prequels. Think about that Yoda Darth. Yeah. What's his face? Maul. Facidious. Bane. Cadius.

Dooku. Vader. Dooku. Dooku. There we go. That was the roulette wheel of Sith Lords in your head. Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

You're absolutely right. Where it's like a man who's not Christopher Lee with Christopher Lee's head pasted on it, fighting nothing. Exactly. In a green screen room. Yeah. You know how they could have filmed that? Just get a guy to just flail around for an hour.

That's what they did. Just flail around with no guidelines at all. Just swing your sword and jump and flip and kick and then we'll just cut around at five minutes of fight footage you take out all the cgi and special effects from that and that's the star wars kid it is isn't it yeah wow if you don't know what the star wars kid is look up the star wars kid that's old news these days isn't that weird it is but i feel like that's probably there's people who haven't seen that yeah definitely yeah definitely. Yeah. So anyway, original trilogy. Yeah. Look, like, and the weird thing is when he decided to remaster them or whatever, there's

nothing wrong with them. Right. Like they're of the time, obviously, but they're amazing. Like the technical, on a technical level. Yeah, sure. Like the stuff that they managed to do, that Death Star thing, which they all redid and all CGI. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Which I was really excited to see because it, I guess technically it's better, but it's, they managed to do that death star thing which they all redid in all cgi yeah yeah which i was really excited to see because it i guess technically it's better but it's cgi from that era doesn't date no it's that era where they thought they could cgi everything but they really shouldn't yeah like the jab of the hut scene and yeah that's and again we've talked about that before putting the jab of the hut scene is ruins the jab of the hut reveal exactly yeah that's it there's a lot of stuff that yeah yeah there's a there's a famous quote in the from the when they when han starts to shoot first yeah when that was edited in yeah where you know people are like why why can't han shoot first like he's a you know he's a he's a he's a rogue he's a kind of thing this guy. He's a kind of thing. This guy is going to kill him.

You know, kind of thing. And George Lucas is like, no, but he has to be a good guy. You know, Han Solo has to be a good guy. This isn't a movie about the redemption of like flawed heroes.

And everybody was like, no, but that's what the entire trilogy is about. That's what Darth Vader is a flawed hero. You don't understand your own. Yeah. That's what I, that's what hero. You don't understand your own. That's what I mean. Like he can make whatever changes he wants, but I feel like he's...

It's out of his hands. It's out of his hands. And it just got away from him and to the point where he doesn't know what's good about it anymore. Yeah. You know what I mean? And there was so much interference in that first movie. Like the studio, like constant pressure from the studio. They were like, this is going to be rubbish.

And everyone said, like, we hate this. And he's battling with the English crew because they're like, they wanted to shoot it traditionally. And he's like this young, hot shot filmmaker. And he, like, he was stressed out of his mind. It's the only way. He didn't direct the next two. And they filmed in Tunisia.

Yeah. And everything got wrecked. That's right. All the sets constantly kept being destroyed. Yeah, nothing worked. Like, none of the droids worked. Which makes sense why he chose to green screen everything in the prequels. Because he's like, well, you know, a monsoon can't come in and destroy these green screens. And if they do, we'll just purchase some more green screens.

Exactly, yeah. And also, at the start because actually the the phantom menace is the only one that's got the most on set stuff because i actually went to tunisia and whatever the second one they do a little bit and i think the third one there might be one scene that's not on green screen or in a set that's actually that's the the lava scene that's real lava actually they did they did film real lava for that. Oh, boy. Yeah, but all that's obviously real lava. In my face. Yes.

But yeah, all of that's obviously green screen. But what was I going to say? I can't remember. But you can feel... Onset interference. Yeah, it's like he was just getting hammered from everybody. Right, right. Like everybody was just on his back and it broke him.

Yeah. Like, you know... You can't tell, though. No, certainly not. we're making concerned faces and tugging at our collars comically oh but yeah but even at the end he said i remember him saying the only thing that he was happy with was fear itself yes no the only thing that i don't know whether he said this or someone said that he loved the score everything else like special effects wise and even certain scenes

he was disappointed with interesting yeah because the special effects couldn't do exactly what he wanted them to do absolutely because it was 1977

right so but even the advances they made just after that were phenomenal and I can see why he did go back

and change the X-Wing fight right and whatever but I guess that would be incredibly annoying if you were like yeah like the year after you released this like your your first big movie yeah your first

blockbuster the next year people like oh here's a little special effect trick that would have made everything incredibly yeah look a lot better but a lot of that i could understand why that would flip a switch in your brain and for you to go oh oh, if I could go back, when I become a billionaire, I'm going to go back. I'm going back. Yeah. And a lot of the special effects and advances in film technology is off the back of this movie. Yeah, I guess that's true.

Like Skywalker Sound and like Luke, what is it called? The Industrial Light and Magic. Like that was just a team of guys who'd like worked on TV commercials. Right, right, right. And they were like, oh, you need to make this death star battle and they're like oh what i i just take long photographs of cereal i don't understand but they built like a 40 foot like death star oh a trench yeah like in a car park it was like 40 by 20 or something and it kept rolling out of the garage and just into traffic and had to keep rebuilding it no no it was just flat so they just like pull the camera over no no leave me my fantasy okay sorry that

it's perfectly spherical and it kept rolling around and there's like one intern at pinewood studios or whatever he's like they eventually had to put a guy in it it would just run right where it needed to go but yeah why does obi-an sacrifice himself it's a good point he could have just run away couldn't he I feel like he could and his sacrifice was so they could get away

yeah but immediately Luke's like hey or like no whatever right right and then everyone starts shooting everyone

yeah so I don't know a bit pointless yeah also he didn't really come back more powerful than you can possibly

imagine can he no because if he were to come back more powerful he could have like choked him in his sleep or something yeah definitely just switched off just flicked all those switches on his chest yeah and murdered him yeah it's good stuff though isn't it it's pretty good so probably it was probably a metaphor probably isn't it yeah

yeah empire strikes back or anything else to say about that one um it works as a standalone as well like why is it the jedi's go- is always to just chop somebody's hand off? Good question. Happens a lot. It does happen a lot. It happens in the bloody... Well, it happens in the Mos Eisley Cantina. It happens in every movie.

It happens in every movie. Okay, Mos Eisley Cantina. Luke loses his hand in the second one. Vader loses his hand in Jedi. Yep. Oh, wait. Phantom Menace. It's definitely a hand chop. I mean, there's droids getting hand chops. There's a hand chop in Jedi. Yep. Oh, wait. Phantom Menace. It's definitely a hand chop.

I mean, there's droids getting hand chops. There's a hand chop in two. Yeah. Because there's... Anakin loses his arm. Oh, yeah. He's lost four arms. That's amazing.

But there's also another hand chop in a bar. When Obi-Wan goes to a bar, he's looking for an assassin or something you're right informant or something yeah and she shows up and he's like hey what's up and then he just chops her hand off that's his first move what's weird as well she gets what if they have anything else what do they have tear gas or something or pepper spray or something guns handcuffs i don't know yeah mind tricks oh they've got those mind tricks they could have been like hey don't run yeah you're right you're absolutely right but and she she comes right up on him as

well where he could do that yeah like he turned his back at the bar right and let her walk right up to him but also you don't really see that hand chop off yeah and in the a new hope it's supposed to parallel a new hope yeah where he's in the New Hope, it's supposed to parallel a New Hope. Yeah. Where he's in the bar and he cuts. Yeah. But that's a great scene in New Hope where he's just like, he's just like, defused the situation.

Right. And the guy pushes him and he just loses it and just takes his arm off. Yeah. Like, that's great, right? Yeah. And I love also that everybody just goes back to their drinks. Right. They're like, okay.

Yeah, this sort of thing happens here. I guess that's true. Like, limbs get cut off and people get killed in that bar and nobody seems to mind. Yeah, that's it. And I guess it's so far after the Jedi that, as well, nobody kind of flinches, which is weird. Oh, yeah, that's a good point.

But I guess a lot of people wouldn't have seen Jedi at that point. It's only been 20 years, though. They probably have the lightsabers there. Yeah. Like, if in the 60s everybody's wandering around with lightsabers. Yeah. Like just on earth. You know?

Yeah, you're right. And JFK was killed by a lightsaber that was hurled from a grassy knoll. And then suddenly like we're just wandering around and somebody pulls a lightsaber in a bar. You'd be like, I remember those. Yeah, JFK. JFK, yeah. Yeah, it's weird.

Those still work. Yeah. But that's when you think back like to the Mos Eisley canteen and stuff like that like just the sheer number of

characters and kind of yeah like there wasn't it wasn't just humans and like one alien right no they were like

let's build Hammerhead let's build Hammerhead yeah let's build those guys that go that's my most stuck

piece of music in my head like in like over the course of my life not see as titanium no no interesting yeah yeah oh that's that's a good song though right yeah it's great what are they called i should know that i think it's called the moss eyes max rebo band no that's the one from jabba's palace oh maybe, maybe it is. Maybe the Max Rebo Band are back. But somebody was saying when Star Wars came out, every scene in that has something new. Yeah. Like that people had never seen before.

Yeah. Like it opens with the epic battle sequence, the space battle sequence. And then they had a 20-minute boring desert sequence. Nobody had seen droids wandering around in the desert. No. Yeah. We'd seen Lawrencerence of arabia

but not like this that's right yeah and etc etc apparently a lot of that movie is also saved in the editing lawrence of arabia no that movie is classic apparently okay sure but yeah you're saying new hope was saved in the edit apparently yeah like they really like sped it up oh okay wow yeah so but movies were like 90 minutes back in the day right yeah sure okay wow the death star was pretty good what if they somehow what if they george lucas what if when they release these new hd versions they release the unedited new hope like it's just the super slow paced version well really drag it out version there's like there's there's two hours 20 there's scenes where like luke goes to like he hangs out with his friends right version there's like there's there's two hours 20 there's scenes where like luke goes

to like he hangs out with his friends right and he's like biggs dark lighter exactly because which is weird because when biggs turns up at the end you reckon they were bullied at school because one of them was called skywalker one was called dark lighter weird right definitely yeah which got bullied more skywalker yeah definitely yeah dark light is kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'd imagine he'd have a black cigarette lighter with a flame on it. Oh, yeah. So cool. But yeah, there's scenes of Luke hanging out with his friends and he's like, I saw a... Because he sees the battle.

I think that might be in the novelization. Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah. And then he's like, and then Biggs is like, well, I'm going to go join the... Rebellion. Rebellion. And he can't. That's what I never understood how it was like, Luke, I'm going to go join the... Rebellion. Rebellion. And he can't. That's what I never understood how it was like,

Luke, I need you to stay for another season and help us farm this moisture on this planet we all hate, but we're all stuck here for whatever reason. And he's like, fine. And then when his parents, his uncle and aunt die, he's like, I guess I could help. But like, just go, man. If that's what you want to do, believe in yourself. Also, he never got those power converters, did he? No, he didn't. From just go, man. Yeah. That's what you want to do. Believe in yourself.

Also, he never got those power converters, did he? No, he didn't. Tosche station. He sure didn't. I'd like to see the backstory of the guy who owns the Tosche station.

Yeah. And he's got, or maybe like an ad. He's like, I've got, I bought way too many power converters. I'm throwing them out the door at crazy prices. I'm sure that's probably a robot chicken skit or something already.

Yeah, okay. Good point. Anyway, Empire Strikes Back, which is the one I had on VHS. Commercials and all. It's the best one, right? Oh, great. What commercials do you remember? There was one for oil.

Just the concept of oil? Yeah, it's like, buy some oil. You like oil? I'm like, i have no need for oil they're like i'm a child yeah bad marketing that's right yeah um it's the best one right yeah definitely without a doubt it's it's also he didn't direct it he stepped back because like i don't want to deal with this shit right they went to the snow i've just got a little sweet toy money exactly yeah well there was also and people have talked about this to no end,

they couldn't meet the demands of the toys. So they sold an empty box for Christmas to say, you own these toys, but we don't have them. Here's a cardboard empty box with all the figures. What? Yes. Is this real? This is real.

This sounds like a thing somebody made up last year. I could show you the footage of it. I like it. But people are very good at making fake brain-gagging footage. No, no, no. It's in this documentary, which I'm going to recommend later. Wow. And then you could redeem a voucher?

Yeah, it was like a voucher, essentially. When they finished them. Okay, well, that's amazing. I know, right? The gall, right? Yeah. So they couldn't meet demands. But that's smart, because you still get people's money, don't you?

Yeah. Yeah. Man. Those figures were shit as well still get people's money, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. Man. Those figures were shit as well. You look at them, they're no good. Yeah. Every Star Wars figure was just an old guy with a grey hair and a grey beard wearing a grey...

Like Admiral's uniform. Like a tunic. Yeah, like a tunic. But no good, from what I recall. It really got to the point where they just made anybody, didn't they? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

Man, that's pretty funny. When you think about like, especially expanded universe-wise, like every character has a backstory now. Yeah. Like every character you see in those movies

has a full, at least a short story based on them. Definitely. You're absolutely right. Anyway, Empire. Empire, yeah. It's, um,

do you think it's coined the phrase, this is the Empire Strikes Back of the series? Yes. It would be weird if a different movie did that. Yeah, it's pretty great. What was I going to say? Yeah, so...

Does that refer to the middle film or the best film in the trilogy? I think it's either best or when things take a turn. Oh, right. Because it does take a turn. Because I think people going into this expected Star Wars again right and a definitive ending yeah

and I'm fairly certain and I might be wrong that this has made the least money of all Star Wars movies really yeah it still made a lot of money

but I think A New Hope made the most and then Jedi I mean it didn't gross any money sorry David Prowse do you want to explain that for people who don't know or well as I understand it David Prowse was it David Prowse David Prowse. Do you want to explain that for people who don't know? Well, as I understand it, David Prowse...

Was it David Prowse? David Prowse, who plays Darth Vader. David Prowse, who was the physical form of Darth Vader, but not the voice. James Earl Jones. Or when they take the mask off. He's not here either. Yeah, okay.

But anyway, he was promised some sort of prophet-sharing agreement based on the prophets that... Was it Empire Strikes it was it was one of them might have been jedi he was promised a percentage of the profits yeah based on how what profits this movie turned i think it was empire might be wrong but anyway they it was on the gross profits of the film and the the difference... So net profits is just, hey, we made this amount of money, you get a percentage of that.

But gross profits in this case was the profits we made on the movie minus all the cost of producing the movie. And the way Hollywood accounting works is you can fiddle with that so you never make a gross profit on a film. Like ever. So he's never...

He gets a letter every now and then which says sorry prowls we have no money for you yeah that's right but we will keep you apprised of the situation did it again nice do that joke every time still kills i assume but yeah it's i may be mixing up net profits and gross profits, but the point is... Who cares? They bloody screwed him on it. Yeah. I think, but Harrison Ford,

he got a sweet deal though, didn't he? He did, I think, because he was only signed up to one and two. Right, okay. And that's why they froze him at the end of Empire. So they're like, oh, we'll just say he died. Yeah, okay.

Or they unfreeze him and he's just a skeleton. Right. Or whatever. But the second one, it splits up everybody. Like Princess Leia and Han Solo. It certainly splits up Luke Skywalker and his hand. A radical departure, would you say? I'd say it's very radical.

Yeah. But it isolates Princess Leia and Chewbacca and Han Solo. I guess that's not isolated because they're all together. It's just Luke goes away. Yeah, Luke goes away. Apparently it was hard for Mark Hamill because he spent time in this weird, dank and dark and horrible set. Right.

With this water that they didn't change for the swamp that just smelt. With this puppet that he couldn't even properly hear the lines because Yoda was under the floor being, like the guy who was controlling Yoda, Frank Oz, was under the floor, so he could barely hear him or he had a radio receiver in his ear or something. So he was just alone for weeks. There's no budget for a speaker. Yeah, that's it. But I think the action sequences

are the best of all Star Wars movies. Yes. Again, we're talking new stuff that happens. The Battle of Hoth.oth yeah it's amazing the walkers the walkers exactly or 8080s some there's much conjecture just say out out it's easier i say 8080 i bet you do bloody bet you do mate also what's amazing about that is that they decided to do the snow planet was that in those movies and you can see it in the original ones if you can find them every ship when it's flying has like a black

outline around it, because they had to cut it out of a blue screen or whatever and put it on. And they did that on snow. And so in space you can't really see it, because the whole background is black, but on snow you can see it very clearly. It still looks great. Sure. For the time. For the time, sure. And I think it still holds up.

For the time. It still holds up for the time. For the time. It still holds up now. For the time. think it still holds up for the time it still holds up for the time it still holds up now for the time which is now yeah like there's real weight to them as well and they get thumped

like the rebels get thumped like repeatedly like there were ramifications for you exploding our giant laser

they didn't like that but yeah it's got the best lightsaber fight I think as well all the guns have a real kick. Yeah.

All the cannons and stuff. Absolutely. There's an ion cannon. Oh, boy, is there an ion cannon. Yeah. It's a good love story as well. Yeah. Which they tried to replicate in Attack of the Clones.

Did they even try? Yeah. No. It was like star-crossed lovers should they kind of be together. Definitely. That's it. Look, I'm sure they tried. Yeah.

But no. No, it's not even close. Yeah. Because they had no Han Solo. No, they had no Han Solo. That's the. Look, I'm sure they tried. Yeah. But no. No, it's not even close. Because, yeah. Because they had no Han Solo. No, they had no Han Solo. That's the key, yeah. And we'll talk about that in the next prequel episode. On May 4th.

Yeah. We won't. We won't. We'll talk about Avengers 2. But yeah. Also, I think it's when Harrison Ford is the most Han Solo-y. Yeah, that's true. I feel like he really puts it in this one.

Yes, that's true. And maybe it's just me reading into it, but... No, I think he's more watered down in Jedi. Yeah, definitely. Partly because he's just been unfrozen, I guess. He can just get in one sweet kick towards the end. But, uh... He's got the best outfit as well.

Yeah, true. Do you reckon? Best hair? All of those things. I think it's the best looking Carrie Fisher as well. Even though she was in the bikini in the third one. Oh, yeah, true. Do you reckon? Best hair? All of those things. I think it's the best looking Carrie Fisher as well. Even though she was in the bikini in the third one. Oh, yeah, sure. I think it's the best looking Carrie Fisher.

All right. There you go. Make it that way, you will, Mason. I will. Asteroid Chase. Great. Amazing. Tense.

Yep. Superstar Destroyer. Like a giant Star Destroyer. That's right. Fantastic. That's really cool. The Emperor's ship, yeah. Yeah.

The Emperor shows up. Executor or Executor. One of those. One of those. Execution or... I don't know. The Emperor shows up. We see him in a hologram.

Yep. They've changed that so it's Ian McDermott. Right, okay. But in the original, it was... It was David Prowse again. Just pulling in some overtime. Look, we'll definitely get you some profits after this, Prowse. And you will be the emperor in the next movie.

I guess, no, who was it, sorry? They got an old lady and they gave her the eyes of a chimpanzee, like superimposed. Yeah. But that was incredible as well. They gave her the eyes of a chimpanzee as payment. That's what she wanted. She's a gypsy, I think.

I don't know. Yeah, exactly. It was the 80s, man. Or the late 70s when they filmed it. But that was cool to see like they kind of mentioned him in the first one right right right

and then you just see him it's like oh there's like a guy who's pulling the strings yeah and all this that was cool very cool we're weird looking

chimpanzee eyes though yeah but um Lando yeah he was great he's pretty smooth yeah

Boba Fett our favorite our favorite useless our favorite useless bounty hunter who's really not very good it's pretty good it was great he's pretty smooth yeah Boba Fett our favourite our favourite useless our favourite useless bounty hunter who's really not very good at bounty hunting but the mythology

around him is built up that now he's the best now he's the best looks great no good yeah you're right and the Vader fight

is amazing Luke and Vader yeah that is yeah because like he's not supposed to go up against him and he's lured into it because they torture han solo whatever to get luke there that cloud soul cloud city thing is amazing but like all the different all new ideas yeah exactly and the way that they go through when i say all new ideas i'm sure oh no absolutely they're all

stolen from somewhere else sure like you know we've talked about, you know, Star Wars was based on the Hidden Fortress. Yes. And I assume all the others were also based on air quotes. Pick up the air quotes based on other stuff. Exactly.

Like, there's a lot of like Legend of King Arthur kind of shit in there. I think the Force was also originally going to be like a crystal that they had to retrieve. Okay.

I think I saw that. It's that documentary I was talking about. Well, the book. Middle Quill. Yeah. Splinter of the Mind's Eye. Luke is attempting to retrieve a crystal that enhances your force power.

So maybe that's it. Cool. You ate it. You ate it, yeah. What happens when you pass it? You have to eat it again. Otherwise, you have the enhanced force powers while it's in your intestinal tract. Okay.

And then you've got to eat it again. While you're hunched over in pain. Yeah. There's a really intense scene towards the end where he passes it. And he's huddled behind like this stormtrooper shooting at him. And everything's blowing up. And somebody's like, oh, save us. Jedi, you've got to save us or we're going to die.

And it's all dramatic. And he's just holding this crystal in his hand. And he's just like, I guess I've got to be the hero. For the force. And I won't spoil it. But he eats it again. But that fight at the end is really good between Luke and Vader. Yes.

And you know what's good about it as well? Like, he's clearly unprepared. And Vader's just like a wall. Yes, exactly, yeah. Luke's just hacking at him to no avail. Like Luke is literally stepping backwards the entire time. I think that fight is more interesting than a lot of the prequel ones. Definitely.

It's probably not better choreographed. No. But it's definitely more interesting. And it's more from a narrative sense. Yeah. He's clearly unprepared for this. Yeah. He shouldn't be there.

He shouldn't be there. He's not going to win, but it's interesting to see it play out. That kind of thing. That's right. Exactly. I remember they... I read Shadows of the Empire, which is one of my favorite Star Wars. I think it might be my favorite one.

There's a bit where Vader goes, he was really impressed that Luke survived. Yep. But... And Vader goes, if Luke had rallied, he could have defeated him. I'm like, I don't think that's true. Right. Not really. Yeah. But I guess because he didn't think that's true. Not really. Yeah.

But I guess because he didn't have enough force, didn't have good enough control of the force to stop him, but he wouldn't also go to the dark side where he could have also stopped him. Yes. So he was just in that kind of middle ground where he was like, I shouldn't be here. Yeah, exactly.

And then he gets his hand cut off. Yeah. Oh, and also the Darth Vader is your father reveal. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. The prequels ruined two twists for that yes the Darth Vader reveal that his father and that Yoda is who he is right yeah exactly because I like you assume Yoda's gonna be some sort of giant golden man Jedi power and he's you know

he's got a crystal he's eating exactly that smells weird for some reason. But yeah, I like joking around Yoda. Yeah. And part of the reason why I like that character is because he can do that. He can just be like, I'll just be this goofball. And then you never see that again, especially in the prequels.

He's so earnest. That's true, yeah. Like, he's no fun. Be fun. Be fun, exactly. But anyway, that is what that is. And then Han Solo gets frozen, ends on a cliffhanger. It's great.

And it also ends with the classic, I love you, I know. Yeah. Which is improvised, apparently. Improvised, yeah, apparently, yeah. I think it was initially, I love you, and he's like, I love you too. Great. And that doesn't work, does it? What did Harrison Ford famously say about all of George Lucas' dialogue?

You can write this shit, but you sure as hell can't say it. There we go, Yeah, exactly. It's sub-variation on that. But in the prequels again, which we'll talk about next time or whenever. You can say it. You can, but you shouldn't. But there was nobody on set

who rallied around and apparently unionized everybody and said, we will not say these things. We will not say these things. Yeah. Overall, best movie ever, right?

Yeah. Best movie ever. ever, right? Yeah. Best movie ever. Let's do Return of the Jedi. If we do a Star Wars, we'll probably do a Star Wars commentary. Do you want to just do Empire? Yes. Or do you want to do all of them? See if we...

Because I would kind of like to do Star Wars. All right. Okay. We can do that. But then we'd have to do all three. No, let's do all three. Fine, we can do that. In a block.

Let's do six hours of commentary. I'm not doing that. No, let's not do three. Fine, we can do that. In a block. Let's do six hours of commentary. No, I'm not doing that. No, let's not do that. They're surprisingly taxing. Yeah, I'm not surprised. Yeah. Return of the Jedi. Yep.

Originally titled Revenge of the Jedi. But I guess you'd be like, the Jedi aren't about revenge. Exactly. But really they are. They're all messed up, these guys. Of course they are. They're all weird repressed monk men. They're all weird rep all messed up these guys of course they are they're all weird

repressed monk men they're all weird repressed monk men exactly yeah I really want to get into the prequels why the Jedi's

don't work in that but anyway they don't work at all they're all like ah the Emperor Senator Palpatine he's the Emperor

yeah let's just go and fight him one on one let's get four guys. Yep. Let's get the fish guy. Yep. Not the, sorry, the squid tentacle man.

Yeah. That's ridiculous. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to quickly say this. And I think Red Later Media also said this, but I thought this immediately when I saw Phantom Menace. Uh-huh. Why are the Jedi's all dressed like Obi-Wan Kenobi on Tatooine?

Yeah. Like those robes, he wears that because he wants to blend in. And he lives in the desert. And they're like Jawa robes and that's what you wear in the desert. For some reason you wear a giant woolen cloak. I don't understand it, but that's what you wear. And all of a sudden they're like, oh no, that's just the uniform of the Jedi. It's better for in circulation.

Oh, okay. That makes more sense. That's suddenly the uniform of the Jedi. So that means that Obi-Wan Kenobi is on Tatooine. Dressed as a Jedi. Yeah, dressed as a Jedi! Exactly! And he's like, I'll just

check. Waving his lightsaber around in bars. And you could write around that. His last name's the same. Yes, exactly. And you can write

around that, that you could have written around it. You had your chance, you blew it. Yeah. Exactly. Also, it's probably

easier for action figure purposes if they all dress the same. I guess so. Because you can just put different heads on. Yeah, I guess so. Because you can just put different heads on. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah.

But like... Problem solved. Problem solved. Just put a grey old man's head and just slap that on there. And then it's perfect. Anyway, we've talked about Return of the Jedi before,

but it does sag in the middle. Yeah. But it's still pretty good. It's still pretty good at the start also. No. No. You reckon? No, not really. I love that Jabba's Palace scene Yeah. But it's still pretty good. Don't argue with the start also. No. No. You reckon?

No, not really. I love that Jabba's Palace scene because I think it's very reminiscent of that bar scene that you were talking about earlier. But it's like they really amp it up because of what they can do. That song that they added in their special edition. Oh, that's right. Yeah, okay. What is that? Yeah.

What? I hadn't even thought of that until you brought it up. CGI. Her name's Psy Snootles. Sure. And she gets right up to the camera. It's very noticeable and it doesn't fit. Yeah, come on.

Snootles. Snootles indeed. Old Snootles. But I like the opening, I guess. It's a terrible rescue plan. Because basically if you haven't seen it, you probably already know. If you haven't seen it and you're up to this point in a star wars episode of a podcast have a bloody look at yourself yeah what are you doing what are you doing jabba the hut takes could take my hope is that there's somebody listening to this they watch and they watch his star wars they watch the first one

they listen to that segment of the podcast. They watch Empire and so forth. That'd be awesome. Yeah. That would be cool. Yeah. I don't know why you would. No. But that's the dream.

Yeah. Yeah. So Han Solo gets delivered to Jabba the Hutt, who's a big slug man. Sure. Just more slug than man. He's a slug with arms. Yeah. And he just uses him as a- Does he get noticeably fatter between-

He does, yeah. New Hope and CGI. And that was intentional. Yeah. Right around, okay. That was intentional because they wanted to make him move. But it's only- I think there's only- I think there's two years Hope added CGI. Right around, okay. That was intentional because they wanted to make him move. But it's only, I think there's only, I think there's two years between each film.

Right. Or Return of the Jedi might only be less. Okay, yeah. Might only be one. Yeah, it's not a three-year gap. So he got big real quick. He did. He looks way worse.

I mean, he looks better. Maybe he's pregnant. Oh, yeah, actually they can do that. Really? Hearts can change sex, yeah. Huh. It's in the books. There you go. Probably doesn't count anymore. Yeah, and I like that opening yeah. It's in the books. There you go. Probably doesn't count anymore.

Yeah, and I like that opening sequence. It's not a good rescue plan. Absolutely not. We'll just go in one at a time. Right. But I guess they're all there then. Yeah. But, like, do you remember when a lot of these guys come in?

Yeah. Everybody's asleep. Yes. Like, everybody. Uh-huh. And Luke could have... Why did Luke not bring his lightsaber and just go, can I have him back? And he's like, no.

And he's like, dead. Yeah. Slashed. Right, right, right. Right through the face. But, you know, it's not as... Maybe they wanted to make a big show of it later. Yeah, that's...

Yeah. That's probably the answer. I remember when Luke would roll into the RAG Corp pit. Uh-huh. And I remember when I first saw it. I'm like, oh, cool, he's just going to use his lightsaber. And I'm like, why didn't you bring your lightsaber? What are you doing? What are you thinking? uh-huh and i remember when i first saw it like i'm like oh cool he's just gonna use his lightsaber i'm like why didn't you bring your lightsaber what are you doing what are you thinking uh-huh like that's nuts and he has to fight it with the bone and he puts the bone in its mouth and he hits the crashes the door on it yep it's pretty good isn't it pretty good yeah

yeah that was a puppet i think was it a man in a suit i think they tried both they ended up man in a suit oh sure it's a good monster though ended up man in a suit. Oh, sure. It's a good monster, though, isn't it? It's pretty good. That bloody Rancor. Where's he at now? Oh, he's dead. Yeah, yeah. Door to the back of the neck.

That'll do it. Where are his kids, though? I think there might even be a story about his kids. Maybe it's fan fiction. There is a story about... There's a book called Tales from Jabba's Palace, and the guy who looks after him... Oh, the Rancor trainer.

The Rancor trainer. He's got a story. Oh, that's probably what I'm thinking of. He really likes the Rancor train. The Rancor train. He's got a story. Oh, that's probably my favorite. And he really likes the Rancor and takes it out for a run and stuff. Sure, a Rancor run. Rancor run. You can get that guy as an action figure as well.

Of course you can. You probably had it. Yeah, I bet I did. I mean, I don't remember it, but that's the perfect sign that I did have it. Yeah, yeah. It's completely unmemorable. You're right.

But that barge escape, though, where they're all, they're going to be dropped into the Sarlacc yeah yeah and then they just kill everybody that's pretty good yeah that's good yeah solid work i mean he did warn him yeah and then he did it yeah revenge exactly yeah revenge of the jedi exactly what they like absolutely what do you think luke has been up to in between doing lots of-ups? Doing lots of one-hand handstands? Just assembling a lightsaber in a cave. Yeah, apparently.

If that deleted scene is... Then they're leaking that footage. Yeah, absolutely. Though you reckon that footage isn't real yet?

Yeah, absolutely. I think it might be. I might be wrong. No. Well, if it is, they clearly deleted it for a good reason. Because it reveals

the green lightsaber. Yeah, exactly. You're absolutely right. Yeah, it's pretty good. What about the rest of the movie though?

It sags with the Ewoks. It definitely does, yeah. And I feel like a lot of it sounds ADR, especially Han Solo. Right. He seems like he really doesn't want to be there. Right. And as I've talked about before, he didn't want to be there. I'm sure he did it for money.

Yeah. But he wanted to be killed. Because it's like, Han Solo's nobody. He's from nowhere. He should go back to nowhere. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. And that's why he's from nowhere he should go back to nowhere yeah exactly yeah yeah but and that's why he's great though because he doesn't have the harry potter syndrome where he's just the best because he was born that way right exactly like he pulled himself up to be where he is right to have the bare minimum a scumbag exactly yeah exactly scumbag and shoots people first exactly he's pulled himself up to become like, yeah, just a terrible human being. And that's great. But I don't know, the speeder bike chase is pretty good. Yeah, okay. And I don't hate the Ewoks, to be honest.

I do. Really? They were going to eat Luke, weren't they, and all of those guys? Or were they? They had a fire going and they had him on a spit. Oh, then they definitely were, yeah. They definitely were. What changed their minds then? He pretended that c-3po was a god oh that's true that's because they yeah they thought that bloody ewoks and that's what the and but apparently they wanted

that to show that the empire despite all its might and technology could be brought down by a simple forest forest folk forest folk i guess we probably couldn't have that it was originally going to be wookies which would have made way more absolutely they're just tearing guys yeah exactly they've got those bow casters yeah what about the uh the luke leia sister reveal thing pretty weird right yeah i guess that clearly added yeah like is that the was that did they did they did that for the jedi reveal right yeah they had they needed one more they need one more revealed as a jedi yeah yeah because they wouldn't have made them kiss if that had been a plan no yeah who knows not. But yeah, and it also handled...

What do you think came first, the Jedi reveal? Yeah. But there didn't need to be another Jedi, ultimately? No, not really. Yeah, it's fine. So is this just the way they got out of the love triangle? Maybe that's what they did first. Like maybe Lucas is like, well, we've got this love triangle.

How do we... We can't just have a girl choose somebody else. Right, exactly. That's not how it happens in the 80s. So we'll just have to take one of them out of the picture. Incest. And he just writes incest on a whiteboard. And everyone's like...

Oh, he's the boss. Good thing it's his last one. Yeah. Yeah, okay. The Death Star battle's pretty good. Okay, yep, good. Flying the ships through. You look at that one compared to A New Hope. Yeah, okay. The Death Star battle's pretty good. Okay, yep, good. Flying the ships through.

You look at that one compared to A New Hope, they've come a long way. And they're letting aliens fly spaceships and stuff. Ackbar. Ackbars. One of my faves. I don't know if you know. No, I know.

You probably see a greyhead general with a beard. Yeah. Talking about a hologram or whatever. Yeah, absolutely. Whatever's going on. Also, you see the Emperor properly. That's true. Whatever's going on. Also, you see the Emperor properly. That's true. And you do see, well, you see the Death Star. It's able to target individual ships.

Yeah, yeah. That's a sweet little twist there. They added that, didn't they? They did, yeah. Yeah. It's pretty good. It's already operational. They didn't know that, though.

They didn't know that. That was a trap. Yeah. Which. It was a trap. It was a trap. There we go. It's classic lie. It was a trap yeah which it was a trap it was a trap there there we go his classic lie it was a trap i knew it what if there's a deleted scene and it's just admiral akbar like just bitching all these co-workers as everything's going down he's like i knew it

was a trap i said it i said it was a trap as soon as i saw that hologram i knew yeah great it's mostly there it's 70 complete i probably made the laser first um there's there's the big flaw in a new hope that i just recalled it's that there was really no need to get that moon out of the way before they fired on... No. Was it Alderaan? No, they already blew up Alderaan. No, they blew up Yavin. Yavin, there we go. They could have...

Just blow up the moon and that would have destroyed the planet. Yeah, they would have killed all life on that planet. I think they even did that in How It Should Have Ended. Like, just, oh, shoot one, then shoot the other. Right, yeah. Yeah. But you're right. If you get shrapnel from something that's that big, that close, you're dead. Yeah. Like, just a rain of meteors. Yeah. But you're right. If you get shrapnel from something that's that big, that close, you're dead.

Yeah. Like just a rain of meteors. Exactly. It would have killed all the, I would assume it would destroy all the X-Wings. Yeah. Absolutely. Every one of them. Yeah.

All the good ones. Maybe if they fired the Death Star laser at the moon, it would have destroyed the Death Star. Okay. There we go. Loophole. Yeah. I fixed it for you, Lucas. So the Death Star had a shield, didn't it?

And they had to blow up the shield in the bunker. Correct, yes. Yeah, that's right. And Han Solo's running around in a camo trench coat, tapping on shoulders and running about. And the Emperor lured him into a trap. Sure. He didn't know it was a trap. He didn't know it was a trap.

I'd love the idea of Amberlake, but I'd be like, I said it! I'm a fish man, so no one listens to me. Look, I appreciate that you gave me control of whatever ship this is. I do appreciate it. The Mon Calamari Cruiser. I appreciate that you work with my disability, that every 40 minutes I have to go back into my quarters

and dunk my head into a fish tank. But look, I said it was a trap. I've got ideas. Yeah. They're good ideas. Come on. Yeah. He made it through though.

Somebody said that he's going to be in it. Remember somebody emailed in and said like. He's going to be in the sequel. Yeah. Like they saw his head or there'll be some kind of Mon Calamari's. Here's something I just found out recently. I'm ready. E.T.

Yes. The E.T.'s are in the prequels. Here's something I just found out recently. I'm ready. E.T. Yes. The E.T.'s are in the prequels. Yes. They've got a little Senate seat. Senate seat, yeah. Which is amazing. The Plumbing the Deaths guys told me this. Yep.

But in E.T. Yes. E.T. sees Yoda and recognizes Yoda. Oh. Which means that Star Wars and E.T. are set in the same universe where yoda is remembered yep interesting from a long time ago yeah the galaxy far far away it's like a legend or whatever like that's phenomenal right it's fun because et hasn't seen star wars correct he didn't have time oh my god what a twist i know? That's mind-blowing to me.

Anyway, actually the Luke Vader battle is pretty good. And that kind of, it's him and the Emperor and whatever, and they're having a chat and the Emperor's like, what was the trap? Your fish man was right. Turns out. But yeah, that's a really good battle between him and Luke. And you see that Luke's grown and just takes him down. Oh yeah.

Shopping wood, mate. That's what he looks like at the end. He's just shopping wood. He's not wearing Jedi rob. Shopping wood, mate. That's what he looks like at the end. He's just shopping wood. Not wearing Jedi robes, wearing black. That's what you do. So much easier.

Wearing black clothes, yeah. Wear what's suitable for the environment. Exactly. And I feel like it's right. Anyway, doesn't matter. But yeah, I guess it's good

how Luke parallels Vader and whatever and he makes that decision in the end. You know what though? He could have killed Vader and been like, yeah, that's fine.

I had. Yes. Again we've established this and I think is there still a video? We talked about this many years ago. Vader still did

participate in the blowing up of a planet. He killed billions. Look he didn't pull the trigger himself but he was there when billions of people were killed

and he was okay with that. So he's a really bad guy. He was also there when he hacked up all those... Again, they are the Hitler and Stalin. Exactly. Him and the Emperor, the Hitler and Stalin of the Star Wars universe.

And he was also there when he hacked up all those children. Yeah. He was physically there. He literally hacked up all those children. Yeah, exactly. And that was added, obviously, the prequels. Right. Come on, man.

Very bad, man. He shouldn't get to go to heaven. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. There's a video on your... There is, yeah. Unless you delete it. I don't know. No, it should still be there. That's still there, great't know no it's still there oh if not i'll put it back or something or back

on may the 4th i will or the patreon yeah slash mr sunday movies maybe i'll put it there yeah great um yeah no i like that final battle and they also added a bit recently where you know the emperor's like fine you don't want to join me i'm gonna electrocute you yeah sure and vader's just standing there after he's heard the emperor go don't worry about him with me like come with me like this is no good now you've you've you've hacked off his robot hand and he's clearly no good and vader's just kind of standing there right but then when he in the original he picks up the emperor without saying anything yep and throws him into the center of the death star sure yeah which is great and then they remade it

so he looks at the emperor he's like no right and then he goes no and he grabs him and picks him up and like it's implied and i think again this is said in the video it's not an accident like you don't need for him to say that yeah exactly like oh wait why is he doing yeah is he doing that you can pick it up from context clues exactly like. Like, that's his son there about to be killed. That's right. And that's the only reason he came back. Isn't that stupid? Yes. It took somebody to kill his son for him to go,

all right, I'm going to pack this in. Exactly, yeah. It's not a good run, but I want to go to Jedi heaven. But that makes a lot of sense when you consider the childlike nature of Anakin Skywalker. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I guess so.

But look, next time we'll look at the prequels, but that's Star Wars. Next time, holiday special. Yes. Hollywood holiday special. We should do a Star Wars spin-off one. We could do Ewok movies. Oh God, do we have to?

Do I have to watch Caravan of Courage again? Yes. No, you don't have to. And the other one. Look, instead of doing letters like we normally do letters, maybe I've got a whole lot of opinions that people wrote in about Star Wars. Opinions? The opinion section.

The opinion section. Okay, I'm ready. So I figure why don't we do that instead of letters. Okay, great. I should preface this by saying most of these are negative. Sure. Because I think people only wrote it to be like, I have something to say about Star Wars.

Okay, I'm ready for that. I'd say in general everybody loves Star Wars. Yeah, yeah. But, you know have something to say about Star Wars. Okay, I'm ready for that. I'd say in general, everybody loves Star Wars. Yeah, yeah, totally. But you know, you don't love Star Wars. I don't. So yeah, but I don't think this is necessarily reflective of everybody who likes Star Wars. Otherwise, Star Wars wouldn't be very popular, would it?

Correct. Yeah, all right. This is the Star Wars winch section. Exactly. Everybody has a winch. Have a bloody winch, mate. Being 15, I only watched

the original Star Wars films relatively recently and I don't think it's good. I never understood why people loved it so much. I thought it dragged. It was boring and quite forgettable.

The special effects don't hold up either. None of my friends think it's great. One even liking the prequels more. Brackets, yes, he's a dickhead.

So could you sum up why it's meant to be great and why I should watch them again? You don't have to watch them again. You don't. It's fine fine it's totally fine to not watch them again probably watch the new one yeah watch the new one yeah you want to probably be pretty good yeah that's it there we go but you're absolutely right some it's a generational thing some of these just don't hold up yeah like i think we saw them in that sweet spot. Yeah. Where we had all the toys. Yeah. Where we had all the toys and we were forced to like them, but also that at the time it was fast paced.

Yeah. The effects were good. Yeah. The plotting was good. The characters were fun. Vests. People were wearing sweet vests. It was a trap.

It was definitely a trap. Yeah. We knew it was. Yeah. But, and, and now we're out of that. Like if you,

if you're a couple of generations past that yeah it's okay to not like them yeah absolutely it might also be part of the like i've seen people there's a there's a very nice cinema in uh in victoria in melbourne called the aster okay which is currently closing down it's going to be reopened shortly i know and they do like they'll run a lot of classic films and it's in like a really nice space and kind of a classic looking space. And I've seen people, like I saw the Indiana Jones movies there, like the original versions of those. And like you'll see kids in there and they've never seen them before

and they're amazed and everybody sort of applauds at the end. Like it's a spontaneous round of applause and stuff like that. And it's kind of, that's a good environment to see those. Like the big screen, it's people are excited to be yeah you know it's it's got that really good vibe but if you saw it on like a if you saw it on tv if you saw it on an ipad or something like that maybe it's not going to be have that impact and that's fine so you're saying this person should go to the aster specifically that's closing down and opening yeah buy a buy a plane ticket yeah come down here get bloody down here but yeah maybe i don't know like you don't have to watch them again, it's fine,

but maybe if you do, if you're like, if there's a nice cinema near you and they're like, hey, we're going to have a Star Wars night and we're going to play A New Hope, maybe go down and check it out for five bucks or whatever it's going to cost you. Would you go? There'd be a lot of nerds there.

I don't know if I can deal with it. Maybe, I don't know. I probably wouldn't, to be honest. Yeah, okay. I feel like I've seen them enough. I don't know if I can deal with it. Maybe, I don't know. I probably wouldn't, to be honest. Yeah, okay. I feel like I've seen them enough where I don't need to see them again. But there might be like a sweet lightsaber battle in between the screen and the seats.

Like some people dressed as Jedi's and Darth Vader's and whatever in lightsaber battle each other. I don't need that. No, that'd be great. I don't want to get it out of here. Get it out of here! Good point. Thank you.

Yeah, get it out of here. Anyway, hey Nick Nick and Mason. You said you'd be offering up your opinions on Star Wars movies and other forms of stories this week. I believe we just did. So I'd like to say this once and once only. It's overrated. Ooh.

All caps. I understand it's a classic sci-fi and staple of movie culture and the first of its time in revolutionary ideas and graphics. But no one can accept that it's pretty generic personally. And this may sound ridiculous. I'd rather sit down and watch Captain America or the dark night in Star Wars. Thanks. And hopefully I don't have thanks.

And hopefully I either do or don't piss off every single person ever. Thanks. And grabbed that gem times five. Great. That's a lot of gems. Talk about that next week. We will. that gem times five. Great. That's a lot of gems. Talk about that next week.

We will. Yeah. This is from Ivan. I think that I wanted to point out the thing I wanted to

point out about Star Wars and New Hope. When Luke is joining Owen Lars and Aunt

Beru, Luke and Owen Lars are wearing robes that are attire appropriate on Tatooine since

everyone on Moisture Farms wears robes like that, I guess. But Aunt Beru, she's just wearing a denim jacket. Seriously, go back and watch it. Yeah, that's true.

However you look at it, it's a denim jacket. It makes sense for the latter Star Wars movies didn't continue this fashion trend. Maybe it's because Lucas thought that Star Wars was a flop initially, so for a side character he's just like, just give her like a denim jacket what are your thoughts on it great I love it yeah I love a weird anachronism for no reason yeah it's pretty good yeah I think that is only the only denim jacket at Star Wars yeah you know it's weird like I didn't go back and check but I thought about and I went he's right that's how much they're in my head that i know that a character is wearing a

denim jacket that's right hey guys andrew from dublin here in regards to star wars it's one of my favorite things of my childhood that's got even better as i've gotten older well sort of the original trilogy and the 2003 clone wars series that's great by the way uh as for the prequels in the 2008 clone wars series uh not so much. So there you go. There you go, yeah. And this last one is from Shelby. You wanted to hear our thoughts on Star Wars? Here you go. Star Wars is for nerds. Oh!

Slap in the face. That is. So look, those were mostly negative. But, you know, there's whatever. People think whatever. It's fine. Here's some classic Aunt Beru. Google image search.

Oh, look at that denim jacket. Just wearing a denim jacket. Look, it's kind of space agey sure is it no not really it's just a denim jacket pretty great anyway be pretty hot in a bloody desert planet i know right all right you know it's time for then oh what's it time for what we read oh what we're gonna read i'm doing the thing what are we reading today oh what's he gonna read this week well actually i'm gonna recommend a star wars documentary it's actually on i think it's on the latest blu-ray but you can also get it it's just on youtube okay it's called star wars empire of dreams okay and it basically takes goes through the original trilogy

and how it was created from like george lucas's early filmmaking days american graffiti yep how he came to write the story and studio interference and filming it and whatever and it's very insightful as to why lucas is the way that he is right okay um i think it's really interesting it's probably over an hour maybe i don't know but it's um i especially like the once it kind of gets to Jedi, it's kind of like, yeah, okay. It's... I get it at this point. Yeah.

But like, especially when looking at the first two movies and before, I find it really, really interesting. And on the flip side of that, people should watch the behind the scenes of The Phantom Menace for that same reason. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Now, that is very good. There's just the one that's on the DVD, I guess.

Yeah, yeah. There's a moment in that, I think we talked about it before. There's a moment in that where the film is finished and they just show it to like- I think executives and some of the producers and stuff and some of the, you know, whatever. And there's just this moment of silence that lasts slightly too long and everybody realises that this is garbage.

Like that it's a garbage film but they've put so much money into it and they're going to have to release this. Yeah. It's a gap that says this movie is unsalvageable. I think Lucas even says, I think I put too much in it, but I can't take it out because then the other parts don't work. But yeah. But yeah.

Empire of Dreams. Star Wars Empire of Dreams. Very interesting. Yeah. What are you rating? I've not written anything this week. I saw Age of Ultron twice. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. So go see that, I guess. Go see that. But see it in 2D. Oh, yeah, definitely. There's no 3D things in it. No, you're right. Think about it. Yeah, no, I have thought about it that. But see it in 2D. Oh, yeah, definitely. There's no 3D things in it. No, you're right. And if you think about it.

Yeah, no, I have thought about it. Yeah, good. Yeah. It just, you get a weird compacted field of vision. You get a compromised field of vision. Yeah. Everything's darker. Yeah.

It's unpleasant. Stop making films in 3D. Me? Yeah, you specifically. Stop it. Great. I think I should also go back, because I was deleting stuff off my iPad. Yeah.

Just to clear some space. And I deleted episode one of Powers. We were talking about Powers. I might go back to that and see if it's improved any. Why would you do that? I don't know, because I hate myself. Probably. I'm probably never going to get around to that.

No. Anyway. I'll give it one more go. If people have been watching that and enjoying it, email in. Let me know. Yeah. See if it gets better.

See if it gets worse. Yeah. Yeah. All right. This is is there actually is one letter I lied but it is Star Wars related great good hey Nick and James

do you think that Kenny Baker were making a guest appearance inside BB-8 as Peter Mayhew is coming back as Chewbacca and what kind of training would Kenny need to fit in there what do you guys think

love the show keep being dickheads Spencer from England I think I think he is back in R2-D2. Not the point, though. That's not what he is.

No, I understand that. But also, I just want to stop the topic of that. You don't need to get Kenny Baker back. At all, ever. Just like you don't need Peter Mayhew back, technically. Yeah, yeah. But I like Kenny Baker. He seems like a...

Actually, it's funny that him and Anthony Daniels do not get along, like at all. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Based on their experience in Star Wars yeah i think that kenny baker thinks that he's a snob and like a weirdo and whatever because he pretends to be a snob as a robot maybe that's amazing if that's true if he's like well he was all he was all proper on set he was was always saying, oh, yes, sir. Oh, oh, oh, Mr. Skywalker. What a bloody toff.

Yeah, what a bloody toff, mate. But yeah, he... I think I saw that in the documentary. It was called Bringing Back Star Wars. And a British comedian tries to gather up all the old Star Wars cast members. So if you wanted to see what Kenny Baker thinks of C-3PO, they can go there.

Anyway, do you think they could get him in that ball and just have him rolling around in there? They'd have to break a couple of his limbs. Sure. It's fine, I guess. You okay with it? Yeah, it's fine. Great.

Bring him back, break those limbs, get him in there. I don't think they could though because there needs to be room for magnets. You're right. Though in that making of thing we saw, the ball is independent that there's nothing inside it and there's just got four wheels in the helmet bit the head bit and that rolls the ball oh then you could put kenny baker in there absolutely you could what if we make oh okay how about this you'd open it and he just would have drowned in his own

vomit how about them they make a big one yeah like lit like that's big enough to fit him in it and he arrives at conventions in it? Yes! That'd be great, right? And so it rolls up and it cracks open like an egg and he falls out. Yeah, that'd be good. So good. Yeah.

Oh, man. You know what? Here's what I'm reading. There's a Comixology Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles sale right now. How much money are they paying you, sellouts? Ah, son of a bitch. But it's just all the IDWs, current series, all sorts of stuff. Yeah.

Great. All the old stuff. Yeah. Maybe I get all that. Maybe. Pretty good. Also, I should mention this as well. We might be getting sponsorship for the podcast at some point.

Fantastic. Coming up. Great. So just to make people aware of that, it just means that we'd have more money. Great. That's the dream, bro. I'm aware of it, yeah.

So look, that might be a thing that's happening at some point. It'd be similar to if you listen to any of the Nerdist podcasts, it's that kind of situation. There's a little 30-second thing at the start and there's something in the middle. Yeah, that's it. But that's a maybe. Oh, here's some news that I should have put in at the start,

but I forgot about. Maybe you can edit it. You've got a new phone. No, that's it. That's a maybe. Oh, here's some news that I should have put in at the start, but I forgot about. Maybe you can edit it. You've got a new phone. No, the same old phone. I know. This isn't even news. I think this happened like last week or something like that. But there's going to be a Full House.

Oh, yeah. I forgot to bring that up. There's going to be a spin-off. It's going to be called Full House. It's going to be on Netflix. Yeah. It's going to contain all the favorites, and I only mention it because of our very occasional segment

that doesn't seem to recur at all, but it still amuses me, Dave Crulia, in which our listeners email in and tell us the times when Dave Crulia, Uncle Joey on Full House, was mean to them. Cruel. Very cruel. So if we could bring that back, if anybody has more stories, please email in.

If you know somebody, ask around. Ask around. If you are going to be part of this show. Like, if you're going to be an extra on it, we'd like if there's an opportunity for you to be an extra on it, get in on it because I want Dave Coulier to be mean to you. Do you want to know the story? Tell us about it.

Yeah, go out of your way to make him mean to you. Yes. I think some of the stories we've had is ask for an autograph and he was mean. Right. He got you fired. Yeah, he got out of fired yeah he got you fired he'd get you he'd get you out you'd get out of paying for meals and stuff and then get you fired yeah pretty good no i'm all for that but okay so the story of fuller house is yes dj

oh yeah who's the eldest daughter has been murdered been murdered they all have to get in together and figure out who did it she She's got two boys and she's pregnant. And like the original Full House, she's widowed. And so people have to move back in to make her house full again. Wow. And Uncle Jesse is... What a bizarre time loop they're trapped in. And Uncle Jesse is back confirmed.

But everyone else is in negotiations. Though apparently the Olsen twins haven't been contacted yet. They'll just get Elizabeth Olsen. Yeah, exactly. She's great. She's the best one. Yeah. Definitely.

They say the time loop has melded them together into one better Olsen. One better Olsen. Well, in Full House, there only is one Michelle. That's true, yeah. So they'd only need one Olsen. Yeah.

You don't care which one. Yeah. Yeah. Make it Lizzie Olsen. It's great. I'm going to watch this. I'm not going to like it, but I'm going to watch it. Exactly, sure.

Have mercy. Am I right? There we go. Cut it out, Mason. Cut it out. There we go. Is it going to... I don't know.

Apparently they're going to update it. They can't make a Full House-esque sitcom today. They did Girl Meets World or whatever. The Boy Meets World sequel. But they can't make this again. They can't make the kind of sitcom they made in the 80s again. It doesn't work anymore. Do you think, like...

It'll be a rest of development style. Yeah, you're right. No, I think it'll be... It'll be slightly updated, but it'll be mostly the same. I think they're going to... Do you think they'll get back Steve Urkel for a cameo?

Like, in the Steve Urkel cameo ones. I hope so, yeah. He met Uncle Joey, Uncle Jesse, and he used his classic catchphrase, Gottney Cheese. Fantastic. Is that a catchphrase Gottney Cheese fantastic is that a catchphrase I know he says that

in that I don't know whether his classic catchphrase was did I do that did I get that cheese yeah precisely no I know

but he also says Gottney Cheese he had so many catchphrases okay great alright so that's the show for this week fantastic next week we're

Bloody Age of Ultron-ing it yeah so get out there and see it because we're going to do non-spoilers and then spoilers. If you've got any thoughts, email them in to weeklyplanetpod at gmail. Or on Twitter or Facebook.

Yes. We're the same on that. Yep. I'm at wikipediabrown on Twitter. I'm at mrsundaymovies. Yeah. You can find us in all places in life. Oh, also weeklyplanetpod.bandcamp.com.

Yes. What have we got up there at the moment? Avengers. Avengers. We've got Watchmen. Yeah. We've got other ones probably yeah

they're pretty good we'll try and do some Star Wars ones yes yeah we should play some Star Wars video games as well

great name one Super Star Wars done Super Empire Strikes Back I could do all three and we just cut out boring stuff

well I played them to test it out and I'm like I tried to get to Vader on Empire Strikes Back and I couldn't so I'm gonna have to Vader on Empire Strikes Back and I couldn't. So I'm going to have to practice or something. They were very difficult back in the day.

Boy, were they. All right. Everybody get out there and grab dat gem. Grab dat gem. Well, speaking of grabbing dat gem, just before we go, very special shout out to Kyle Jones. Yeah. At Kyle underscore Moans on Twitter.

Kyle Moans. Kyle Moans, who sent us a little tweet, a special little tweet. He says, hope this isn't weird. And then a photo of the very first Grab Dat Gem tattoo. Absolutely.

Amazing. Amazing. Did that blow your mind? Yeah. That's there forever. Yeah. Like we're here forever. Right?

Yeah. Absolutely. Looks great. I love it. You like the font, you said. It's a little bit nautical. It's got a little twist. I love it. Gem looks great., you said. I do. It's a little bit nautical. It's got a little twist.

I love it. Gem looks great. Which gem is that? Power or something. I don't know. They change it in the movies. Looks great. Amazing.

Thank you, Kyle Atmoans. Underscore Moans. Underscore Atmoans. Yeah. Great. Well, I'm amazed by that. That's fantastic. That's my favourite thing this week.

If everybody could get a tattoo. Please. Do that. Yeah. Would you get a tattoo? No. I couldn't. I can't decide on one. If everybody could get a tattoo. Please. Do that. Yeah. Would you get a tattoo? No. I couldn't. Can't decide on one.

I don't have enough skin. Yeah. If only I loved a podcast enough that I could get that tattoo. Great. All right. Grab that gem, everybody. Absolutely. Especially Kyle.

Yeah, you know it. He has already. Did it already. He doesn't have to grab it. Yeah. All right. Bye. Bye.