The Weekly Planet - 86 San Andreas & Tomorrowland

Episode Date: June 1, 2015

We look at two movies this week! TWO! Also touching on a new Star Wars character, Suicide Squad, more Transformers, Wonder Woman, Deadpool and other things who care.Tomorrowland Discussion: 28.26 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Now, Mason, in the grand tradition of it being your birthday. Last week, yes. Last week, which I forgot. You get to do the intro. Great. For the team birthday.

Fantastic. Wait, are you ready? Alright. Deep breath, focus. Gotta find my centre, this is a surprise. Sorry. Hey everyone! Welcome to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk about comic books and movies and TV shows and... Sometimes your co-host makes you do something you don't want to do. Sometimes? Yeah, sometimes. Hi, I'm to do. Sometimes. Yeah, sometimes.

Hi, I'm Nick Mason. I'm James, Mr. Sunday Movies. Is that it? Yeah, that's it. Great. It's not fun, is it, doing the intro? No, it's a real drag, man. No, it's pretty good.

Yeah, it's pretty great. So should we just get straight into the news and stuff? Yeah. Just get into it. Great work. Maybe I should get you to do it every week. Not get you. Like maybe you would want to do it every week. Not get you. Like maybe you would want to do it every week.

What if I say no? I don't know then. Okay. All right. Deadpool. You know that movie. I'm aware of Deadpool. It's a rap shooting.

It's done. They finished it. Yeah, it seemed quick, didn't it? Maybe two months. Maybe three months. Maybe two months. Yeah. Maybe two or three months.

A couple of months. Ryan Reynolds has been really good at kind of promoting that. He's kind of, you know, sending out various hilarious Deadpool tweets and whatever. I haven't seen any. Really? What about the one where he's lying on like the bear skin rug? Okay, that one's pretty good, yeah. There are other ones.

But yeah, he said also that he was hoping for a Wolverine cameo and that Hugh Jackman is open to it. So it might happen. But it might not. You know? Oh, yeah. Do you think they'd play off well? Oh, they were in the same movie together once, weren't they?

They were in The Wolverine. The X-Men Origins Wolverine, the worst one. The worst one, yeah. By far the worst one. By far. So if that is any indication, I would say the combination of Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman is some sort of curse. So I highly recommend they don't make that happen. Individually, good guys.

Yeah, together. In good movies together. Box office disaster. Poison, yeah. Though that made a lot of money, that movie. Because it was kind of, these are still good, right? That's how it got people in. And then that's what happened.

So that's great. Speaking of things that aren't good, Transformers movies. Oh, sure. I've seen some. I've seen more than I've needed to. That's true. They're expanding the universe and they're saying that the upcoming movies could include a prequel i think they rumored to be titled transformers one which is a cybertron film okay sure i'm okay with that

i'm fine with that too yeah we sort of saw cybertron in was it three where they tried to crash cybertron into the earth through a big portal might have been three it's tough to say isn't it that did happen in one of those movies i didn't know because you can tune out for a solid 20 minutes yeah those movies and you won't really miss that no so that's it there's always a portal or a device that could do a thing that anyway yeah the other one they mentioned was maybe like a bumblebee spinoff movie the quote here is we could see stories told around bumblebee and other characters but just bumblebee because all the rest are totally interchangeable exactly yeah so let's pick the character that's yellow

and can't talk yeah we could see stories around that one that's a japanese samurai for some reason maybe it's racist we don't know but we'll find out, won't we? We'll bloody find out. He had a good design, that one, actually. Yeah, I really liked it, now that I think about it. Not the movie, just so we're clear. Good. That was the one where Cybertron came through the portal, right?

Oh, absolutely it was. Good, excellent. Do you want to see any of that? I'm interested in the Cybertron movie. How about like an Any Which Way But Loose Bumblebee Road movie? So he has a monkey. He has a monkey, yeah. Okay, cool.

Yeah. He has a monkey in Clint Eastwood. They bundle Clint Eastwood in. He has no idea what's happening. They just put him in a green screen and just like maybe lock the doors in and he doesn't know what's happening and then you just film his reaction

for a couple of hours and then you build a story around that and you CGI Bumblebee in. That would be amazing. Yeah, I know, right? right it would be like what's the one with eddie murphy where they get the fake eddie murphy meet dave that's good trading places no the one i'm just gonna go new movie old movie until we find the eddie murphy movie you're thinking of the one where he's got braces finger yes coming to america. Coming to America. I got it, I got it. Okay, great. Good job. Yeah, that's what happened in that movie, right?

Doesn't matter. Okay, so yeah, more Transformers movies, I guess. Sure. We're never going to see the end of it. No, we're not. Do you remember that period? Because everybody remembers the Transformers have just been this eternal thing. Yeah.

There was a really long period where the Transformers were not popular at all. They stopped making the toys. Okay, sure. Are you talking like after Beast Wars? all. They stopped making the toys. Okay, sure. Are you talking like after Beast Wars? Yeah, they stopped making decent toys. And there was just maybe a couple of comic books. Like one a month or whatever.

And it was one of those things where people were like, oh, look, occasionally you'd be like, remember this movie? And you'd be like, yeah, I remember that movie. Like someone would have it on VHS. What I'm saying is, why can't we go back to that? Oh, okay. When nobody remembers the Transformers. A return to nothingness. You know what I fear?

What's that? When we get too old and all the stuff that starts coming up and they're making movies of are shows that weren't around when we were a kid. So we have no frame of reference. We've got no frame of reference. We'll be like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh and Ben 10 and whatever. When that shit all rolls up, we're fucked.

Yeah, that's true, yeah. Yeah, I guess because we're sticking around with transformers for us it has nostalgia value even though they're not very good yeah so you're right but we just have to push through that until we get the nostalgia for these movies oh that's true when they re-reboot the transformers oh that's true then we're back interestingly though if they do make a fifth transformers movie which they are that's when movies get good again yeah that's true that Then we're back. Interestingly, though, if they do make a fifth Transformers movie, which they are, that's when movies get good again. Yeah, that's true. The established rule, Fast and Furious rule.

Yeah. Anyway, that's great. Andy Serkis is in the new Star Wars movie called Star Wars. Star Wars? And they've revealed his character, is that right? Yeah, he's a mo-cap character and his name is Supreme Leader Snoke. Okay. Remember the Snorks?

Yeah, I remember the Snorks. So what you're saying is they're rebooting the Snorkke. Okay. Remember the Snorks? I do, yeah. I remember the Snorks. The poor man from Smurfs. So what you're saying is they're rebooting the Snorks. Correct. Yep. I didn't like the Snorks. They're not rebeating the Snorks.

I should. This is a very gritty reboot. Did you like the Snorks? I have no memory of the Snorks, really. They were the Smurfs underwater. Sure. Yeah. Tristan wrote it, and he thinks he's actually Darth Plagueis.

You familiar with Darth Plagueis? Oh, is that an expanded universe character? yeah but he is mentioned in episode 3 he was Sidious' master who Sidious killed

okay well he tells the story like he's telling the story of somebody else but it's clearly like him alright sure and Plagueis worked out how to

live forever right so potentially he's not dead yeah or he's a ghost or a ghost yeah a mo it's a mocap ghost yeah okay what do you think of any of those things look like everything star was at this point i'm cautiously optimistic excellent again i love your

enthusiasm yeah again look here here's the whole thing. I'm cautiously optimistic, but realistically, they cannot be any worse than the prequels. So... Say that. Yeah. Look, I agree. Oh, no. No, I agree. You put that idea in my mind.

But I feel like people say it can't be worse, but things can always be worse. Well, that's true, isn't it? In life and movies and disaster epics, which we will get to. Oh, yes. Tilda Swinton. Oh, yeah. You know her? Yeah, Tilda Swinton. She. Oh, yes. Tilda Swinton. Oh, yeah. You know her?

Yeah. She looks like a ghost. Tilly Swinton. Yeah. She is apparently in talks to play the Ancient One in the Doctor Strange movie. That's interesting. Okay. Because the Ancient One is not a woman.

It is a bald man. Yes. Generally speaking, yes. Yeah. But it is an Ancient One. That's right. It's not an ancient bloke. They make that very clear.

Yeah. Who would be great as an ancient bloke? I'm trying to think. Gatsby Eastwood. We need an Australian guy. We put him in the room. He'd be like Jack Thompson. Yeah, maybe Jack Thompson.

Brian Brown. Brian Brown would be a great ancient bloke. Yeah. So bloody ancient. Steve Bisley? Oh, yeah, he'd be pretty good, yeah. Yeah, but he's Bisley. That's what we've established.

He's so Bisley. Mark Mitchell. Con the what we've established. He's so Bisley. Mark Mitchell, con the fruiterer. There's some references for your bloody Reddit thread. Some obscure references that aren't very good. Yeah. So I think this is one of those changes where not enough people know enough about Doctor Strange to be outraged.

If this was, say, Lex Luthor, or an iconic Superman character, or an iconic Batman, or an iconic Iron Man, then people would care. But people are like, yeah, whatever. Yeah. No one's favorite character is the Ancient One. No. I'm prepared for letters. You should be prepared for letters because you read the letters.

I will buckle down. Some people are going to email in and say, no, my favorite character is the Ancient One. Yeah. But no, because it's not a character. The Ancient One hasn't had his own book. Yeah. We don't know much of his backstory. We don't really know any of that.

That's true. So yeah, make it up on the fly. It's fine. I think it could work. And Tilda Swinton is just kind of like a puff of smoke. She's very ethereal, isn't she? Yeah. So sure.

Maybe a Cate Blanchett, if they were going to make a female, but she was glad real and whatever. Yeah. I was going to say that. That was the thing that happened. Chris, Chris, Chris,

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Okay, sure. So that may be a thing. Yeah, yeah. So I guess like a Captain America style. Yeah, yeah. Like a period piece. Will people feel that's a rip off of Captain America there? Yeah, probably.

Yeah, great. Everything rips off everything else. Transformers are coming back and then out and back again. Who knows? Life's a bloody rollercoaster. Isn't it though? Yeah, okay. I'm on board with that. Yeah, me too. Who knows? Life's a bloody rollercoaster. Isn't it though? Yeah, okay. I'm on board with that.

Yeah, me too. I like a superhero period piece. That's good. It will... You will have to... We will have to explain why nobody remembers Wonder Woman

in this Man of Steel universe. Yeah, yeah. Well, it doesn't have to be that. It could just be that... I guess we could have... People didn't bring it up. Like, because Batman's

in this universe and we haven't heard about him. Nobody heard of him. That's true. I guess if it was all set sort of maybe it's maybe it's that the the setup is you know uh steve trevor crashes on amazon island yeah themis skyra themis garya themis garya themis themis thremis garyan and then they go off and have some sort of you know greek mythology adventure and the world at large doesn't hear about it yeah sure that might work absolutely all right of course written steve trevor couldn't be in the

20s like he'd be there modern day i guess oh i see right right okay unless he's doing his yoga oh sure yeah that keeps you i might do the the fun trope of steve trevor and then his great grandson is steve trevor the third and it's the same actor and they're exactly the same and you know the back to the Future thing that they do, where every one of his ancestors except for his dad, it looks exactly like him. Correct. The Biff Tannen effect.

Anyway, that's great. Tron 3. Yes. You're not going to like this. Has been put on hold. You're the only one who likes Tron 3. We're going to talk about Tomorrowland this week. And having come out of Tomorrowland, I'm just like,

you know what I really liked? I really liked Tron Legacy. It was real good. I liked some of Tron Legacy. I liked the world building. I liked the soundtrack. Did you like the machine that could potentially take people from the Tron universe into the real universe and make them real?

Just that big beam of light. The big beam of light, yeah. Yeah. It's pretty good, right? Yeah, exactly. They didn't really explain that well no yeah not the point how much that's good the tron world does it run out of space is it like there's too much data cyberspace yeah that's what i'm saying because it's not on the internet is it it's just in a mainframe it's in a it's in a old arcade yeah or something yeah i don't know do you see what i'm

saying yeah i say what you're saying i'm saying that movie isn't true to life the blue beam that brings people in the real world and makes them real that's fine yep other than that you're right it probably i mean it was a machine from the 80s i probably only had like 640k of ram exactly it's gonna take forever to crunch those people out in the real world i don't know yeah but they say well first of all they said they wanted jared leto for the role but apparently this might not be going forward or looks like it won't be is because of tomorrowland did not do well at the box office Well, first of all, they said they wanted Jared Leto for the role. But apparently this might not be going forward, or it looks like it won't be, is because of Tomorrowland did not do well at the box office.

Oh, that's disappointing. Which we will talk about. Yeah, okay, let's talk about that. I'm not surprised because I think, for one, every sidestep that Disney have made away from superhero movies, and like Pixar and presumably Star Wars, has been a disaster. John Carter. John Carter, Lone Ranger, Tomorrowland.

I'm sure there are other examples. I'm sure there are examples of the not, like Pirates, for example. But Pirates started in 2003 or whenever it was, maybe 2004. So, you know, do you want to talk San Andreas first and then Tomorrowland? Because I think that's the one that just came out. Okay, yeah, cool. Side note, Jared Leto, did we talk about last week,

maybe it was out already, but the set shots of the Joker's Lamborghini? With the ha-ha. With the ha-ha. On the number plate. Somebody wrote in, I can't remember who, and said, did he get those registered? Yeah, I know, right? Did he?

Do you reckon he would have? Unlikely. I mean, he would have had to at least get them printed. It looks pretty, the car itself looks pretty sweet. Yeah, yeah. I tell you what. There's been a lot of set photos of Batman riding on the roof of that car. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, Kate, they're going to CGI it in, I guess. I don't think so. No, Kate, then. Just leave the red dots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's Suicide Squad footage. Yeah, that's Suicide Squad. And that's presumably Ben Affleck's stunt double,

even though he's not going to be in the movie, but he was seen wearing a blanket over his head, arriving and leaving on set with 20 years sticking out. They don't seem to care that everybody sees that Batman's in that now. Yeah, yeah. I think it's because they're like, we can't film this without people seeing it. Yeah, yeah. And if they want to do it real, you've got to do it in the streets, man.

You've got to do it in the streets. It looks, I like the look of it. It does, the Joker is feeling it, because I keep going back and forth on what this characterization of the Joker is feeling it, because I keep going back and forth on what this characterisation of the Joker is. It feels more like now the Super Friends version of the Joker, like the Super Friends cartoon version, because where's he getting the car from? Where is he getting the car from?

Yeah. I'm okay with that. The tattoos... Still not working for me. Yeah, but, you know, we'll see. We see them as little as possible. Yeah. I think that's probably going to be like the opening of the movie or not a major sequence,

because if they're just like, oh, everyone can see this, I don't think it's going to be that big a of the movie or not a major sequence. Because if they're just like, everyone can see this. I don't think it's going to be that big a deal or something else. So maybe, I think we talked about this. Maybe that's Batman bringing him to Arkham. Yeah. And that's how the movie starts or whatever. Done. I'm happy to see Batman in it though.

Yeah. He's a, I like him. He's good, right? I like his little cape. Good value, that guy. He is, isn't he? Which one are we getting into? San Andreas then?

Let's talk about it. We're going to talk about two movies this week. Tomorrowland, that guy. He is, isn't he? We're trying to get into San Andreas then. Let's talk about it. We're going to talk about two movies this week, Tomorrowland, which only just came out here in Australians, and San Andreas, which also just came out here. It's good we decided to do two movies. I was initially thinking, well, the people want to hear about two, but you know what? There's not a lot to talk about in San Andreas,

if I'm honest with you. Yep, cool. What's your... Oh, by the way, the normal way we do this is non-spoilers and then we'll say spoilers just for people who haven't heard. We'll clearly mark that. Yes. With voices.

If you wanted to skip Tomorrowland, I'll put a time code in. Right, Mason? Then you can do no spoilers Tomorrowland. Yeah. That was actually your idea. I shouldn't take credit. All right. San Andreas.

Total bullshit. I hated it. Did you really? That's interesting. Fucking hated it. Look, I preface this by saying... That Total bullshit. I hated it. Did you really? That's interesting. Fucking hated it. Look, I preface this by saying- That was quick. I do not-

That's your quickest opinion so far, I think. And that's your most definitive opinion. Because normally you're dancing about it for ages. You're like, well. Look, and this is on me. I do not like these movies. Disaster movies? I hate them.

I've always hated them. Okay, here's the delineation, though, I feel. Yeah. You hate San Andreas, where a city's being destroyed. You like a Godzilla, where a city's being destroyed by Godzilla. Yes. Okay. Yeah.

Cool. I don't know. You know what? Maybe it's the lack of, like, who's the villain here? And then they try and shoehorn in a villain. They try to build a villain. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

And look, I shouldn't say I really hate it i just i was bored because i'm just like i've seen this and i like the rock give me an example of a time you've seen it day after tomorrow okay i never saw that 2012 didn't say it godzilla oh yeah good point volcano dante's peak that's it's been a long time yeah all right all right fair enough you've given me a lot of examples and you bloody put me in my place. But the point is, Dante's Peak and Volcano and Twister, it's been a long time between drinks. Agreed, yeah.

Between actual disaster movies, like big budget kind of, this is the thing. Yeah. You know? But you hated it. Just give me an example of a thing you hate. Sure, okay.

You wrote down a whole bunch of things you hated. You know, all the stuff that I want to talk about is probably more spoilers. Okay, cool. All right. Okay, let's talk about it. Acting. None to speak of.

I thought everybody was fine in what it was. Like, I thought The Rock was good. He's likable, but he's... Yeah. He's not really... I can't really... Look, you know what? He's not a great guy in it.

People are like, he's a great guy. But all the stuff that he does, it's really go out of way to say he's a great guy like he steals a car but that car had already been stolen so he's not actually stealing a car correct yes for real do you know what i mean and this movie you should watch if you like a string of scenes of the rock stealing various vehicles yes that's ultimately what this movie likes the video game san andreas correct yeah interesting yeah do you think it was going to be grand theft auto san andreas originally so they filmed a whole bunch of scenes of the rock stealing things and then they the license fell through and they're like just take gt off the front yeah we'll destroy the city with cgi yeah we'll work around it because he's not i guess he's

the main character but it kind of shifts focus between him, Paul Giamatti, and his daughter. And that's the kind of... And just buildings falling down. And that's how it kind of goes. What's her name? Carla Gugino. She was good. She's fine. Kylie Minogue was in it.

Kylie Minogue's in it. Australia's own Kylie Minogue. Put that in your Reddit. Our Kylie. Yeah. Our Kylie. I haven't seen her in a movie since Street Fighter. Yeah.

Where she played Cammy? Yeah, she was Cammy. movie since Street Fighter. Yeah. Where she played Cammy? Yeah, she was Cammy. She was Cammy, British secret agent. Slash martial artist. Correct. Slash beret wearer. Yeah. Yeah, like Alexandra Daddario.

Correct. British guy. Mr. British, yeah. And I think it was Rickon from Game of Thrones was the kid, was the brother. Oh, okay, sure. And I thought everybody was fine yeah and I like Paul Giamatti

Paul Giamatti doing some Paul Giam acting where he's like I'm way above this yeah but they're paying me money for this but he does well like he's good

yeah but he's clearly on the verge of laughing I like how he runs yeah he's clearly on the verge of laughing all the time though I feel yeah

like he's like I cannot believe they're getting me to say this particular thing did you like it I didn't even ask you San Andreas yeah i kind of did i didn't like it wasn't good yeah but look man there was some good smashing yeah yeah sure i agree smashing i found the cgi though like went between amazing and just very poor give me an example of a poor bit the bit at the start where the car cgi backflips down a hill yeah that wasn't great the green screen yeah yeah just like all the green screen like you know the bit where they're in the boat at the end and there's uh this is not so much a spoiler yeah maybe it is because it happens

right at the start as we're talking about there's a scene right at the start we we're setting the we're setting the status of the characters the rock is a guy and he comes in and he saves people so right at the start he has to go and save a girl who's been driving a car and it tumbles over a cliff, right? One of the things that makes me cringe in movies is what I call a car crash angle where somebody is driving a car and you see a view from the passenger side, you see what's coming from outside the window and it's normally a train or a truck and they've stopped paying attention.

Do you hate that because it frightens you or do you hate it because you're sick of seeing it? It's probably both. I'm terrified of things. But I thought it was, in this case, it was quite innovative because it wasn't a car or a truck. It was the side of a mountain coming at her. Yeah. And look, initially I did, I was like, okay, I'm open to this because it was kind of like she was on her phone and you thought that was going to cause the crash.

And then like- I kept thinking she was going to drift into traffic yeah and then there was that and I thought oh that's quite good that's a little twist on the trope there but then it just kind of

and then there's a bit and this is this is in the first five minutes so I guess it's not a spoiler I guess no one cares if we spoil this but Roy Harper yes

who's in Arrow that's not his real name I don't know his real name he gets his arm pinned under the car between the car and the mountain as he's trying to rescue the girl. And then when they finally lift the car off him,

he's like, thumbs up! Like with his like hand that should be just crushed to dust. Sure. Like he was under that for a very long time. I'm just saying. I understand. Movie magic.

Just believe in it. I thought we'd get more of the Rock's team, but all the Rock did was steal a helicopter they probably could have used to rescue a lot of people to go save his family, which is another thing I didn't like about the movie. We'll get to that in spoilers in a second. I had a thought about that.

Sure. Okay. Story, nothing to speak of. Yep. Yoan Griffith. Yeah, he was in it. I want to talk about him in spoilers as well. Talk about his spoilers.

Okay, great. Boy, there isn't really a lot to talk about in this movie, is there? Margaret, let's spoilers. I like the effects. I thought it was mostly pretty solid. I thought the wave was good. Yeah, I thought there were some decent surprises. There was a lot of chaos in there.

Yeah, sure. A lot of rubble. Yeah, there was no surprises in terms of plot or anything like that. It's exactly what you'd expect of a disaster movie. If you haven't seen one in a while, you want to. You should probably see this. Yeah, and I acknowledge that this is not my thing, and that's why I didn't like it.

I said this in my review. If you like this stuff, you'll like it. And again, given that I see one every five years, I'm like, yeah, that's pretty good. Okay, sure. There was no scene when they outrun the cold in the corridor. No, that's true. They did outrun a wave, though.

Or did they? No spoilers. Okay, spoilers from here. Spoilers from now on. All right. What did you want to say about The Rock stealing a helicopter? Oh, yeah. He's like...

He would be fired. No, definitely, but like... There'd be a tribunal. His wife calls and says, I'm in this restaurant. The whole building's falling down me notes here we've got to get out and the rocks like take everybody to the roof yeah and there's a whole bunch of explosions everybody goes down yep goes down the stairs which is the bad move i guess in this situation we don't know that here because we don't have yeah earthquakes i don't know the standard occasionally we have an earthquake

and i and I figure it out because on Twitter somebody goes, do you feel that? Yeah. And I'm like, no. And then it turns out we have a very small earthquake. The one that I actually felt once, I was in one room in my house and my dad was in the other

and the room shook for like a second. And I went next door. I'm like, dad, do you feel that? And he's like, nah. And I'm like, oh, well. And then later... And that was before Twitter, so you didn't even know. Didn't even know. Okay, okay but anyway so she sends him everybody goes downstairs which is the bad move apparently and then she tries to get some people upstairs but then they

die and carly minogue goes into a room and then that room falls off the building and she dies so by the end of it it's just carly gugino getting up to the roof yeah and the rock's like i'm here i'll save you and then he just brings down like the pallet. It's got room for one person. What was he going to do if she successfully managed to get everybody onto the roof? That's a very good question.

He could have done anything. He would have had to batter everybody else's side. Yeah, exactly. Or do it individually. Yeah. Right? You're right.

He's very lucky in that scenario. Very lucky, yeah. It's O'Shea. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even think of that. Yeah, yeah. Yo and Griffith,

I thought, I thought they were going to be like, oh, he's just a reasonable kind of That is exactly what I thought. See, that's a twist. You've been surprised. No, no, no. Gotcha. Because I thought initially he'll be a dickhead, and then I was surprised that they're like, oh, they're not going to do that.

That's impressive. Right. And then they just did it anyway. That's true. And I was with my brother when I saw this, and he said, you know when Yohan Griffith runs off on Alexander... I thought he had a concussion. Yeah, that's what I thought as well. So he wasn't a bad guy.

And my brother said, yeah. I think there was just... I reckon there was a bit of editing on set. Yeah. I think there was a bit of script change on set. Because I think they were originally going to make him kind of a reasonable guy. Yeah. And that he's like, help, you know, this girl is trapped or whatever.

And then the security guard he's talking to is killed. Yeah. And then you see him get a bit of the tinnitus and the shell shock. And then I think maybe they were like, we'll just have him wander off. Yeah. And he's no longer a character in the movie. Yeah. Like, he's not a bad guy.

Yeah. He's just in no state to help anybody. And then I think maybe towards the end, they're like, we don't have a villain in this because it's a disaster movie. Yeah. We need some comeuppance. We need some comeuppance for a guy who's a bad bloke. Yeah.

And then, so we'll just have Yohan Griffith come in and get killed by a shipping container at the end. But before that, they had a scene where he pushed a guy into an earthquake. That's true. Yeah. Like that scene, like that was a point where I was like, oh no, they are just flat out doing that. Yeah, yeah.

So, comeuppance, mate. So there's your trope. A guy in a disaster movie, a rich guy gets his comeuppance. Good. To the film's credit as well, I thought they were going to be like, The Rock would be going to fight earthquakes or whatever. Like by punching them? By punching them.

And his family would be like, you're never around, Dad. Which is ridiculous because that's an important job. Right. And he needs to go and do that. So, from the start, they were like, no, we understand that you're busy and you're important. I thought that was good. Sure.

So it wasn't just, you didn't come to my football game or whatever. You're doing the arms, you're doing the hands on hips there. I am, yeah. Very good. Do you know what I mean? Like, so I was happy with that. Where did that wave come from? Because of the earthquake.

Okay, look, I don't know anything about earthquakes. Oh, sure. Or tidal waves. Well, you do now because you've seen the movie San Andreas. You're right. Don't go downstairs or upstairs. Correct. My understanding is if there's an earthquake, there's a fault line shifts.

That can cause a tsunami. But the fault line was inland. So where did the wave come from? It was such a big earthquake. That what? Wouldn't it have pushed the wave out? No. You don't know anything about earthquakes.

I know. Clearly. Look, what I'm saying is let's trust the science of the movie San Andreas, all right? Yeah. I saw a thing on Film Drug which I want to go back and read where it's like, oh, some scientist has torn apart all the stuff in this movie. It's like, yeah, who cares, whatever.

Correct. It's not supposed to be. But I'm just curious if you knew the answer to that. No, I do not. Excellent. I don't know, man. I don't have anything else. I'm just looking through my list here.

Okay, Paul Giamatti, there's a lot of like, someone brings Paul Giamatti data and he's like, oh no, there's going to be an earthquake. Oh my God. And then there's an earthquake. That happened like four times.

Sure, yeah. More screen time for Giamatti. I agree, He's good. But like, I don't know. It's just, who cares? This is nothing. It's just nothing. This movie is nothing.

Very correct, yes. Yeah. Do I have any other thoughts about it? It's a good thing he made that earthquake predicting machine the morning of the big earthquake came. Very convenient, isn't it? Yeah. Didn't seem to be enough time in between.

To help anyone at all. Especially the first time. Yeah, yeah. Because remember his friend was downstairs or whatever and he's like, there's earthquake King, you better. Yeah, yeah. Paul Giamatti runs funny too. He sure does.

What else? Was there anything else in this movie? My brother also pointed out at the end, that relief kind of set up that they had of tents and whatever. It wasn't very big for the entire city. No, maybe there's more than one. You'd hope so.

Yeah. And then the American flag unfurled. Oh yeah, you know, that's how they're going to rebuild with American ingenuity and know-how and elbow grace. Yeah. The director of this, I don't think he's done a lot of stuff before.

This is his first like big-ish kind of movie. I can't remember. Do you want to know what he's done before? Sure. I have to look it up. Okay, cool. God, thank God we can look things up this week. Yeah.

Last week was a nightmare. But you know what? Nobody cared. Nobody wrote in and was like, you idiots. Well, they did, but that's... Yeah, that's part of the course. That's part of the course. Brad Payton.

He's done. Oh, Journey to a Mysterious Island. Oh, another The Rock film. Yeah, another The Rock film. The Rock and... Roll. Will Ferrell was in that? No, that's...

Something I know. I know the one you're talking about, but it's not that one. That's fine. Cats and Dogs, The Revenge of Kitty Galore, Incarnate, and there's a picture of Aaron Eckhart as I Frankenstein, but I think that's a different movie. So he's done some stuff. Yeah.

None of those things I really seem to enjoy. Journey 1 had Brendan Fraser in it, didn't it? I haven't seen either of those. That's kind of a disaster movie, isn't it? If it's got Brendan Fraser in it, it's a bloody disaster. No, I like him. Me too. He's good well

he was good in The Mummy he was was he good in The Mummy 2 and 3 it's debatable I don't know that's all I have to say about this worst movie ever definitely there you go

if you don't like this stuff you won't like it if you do you'll think it's one of those movies I'm going to say best movie ever solely because I'll know it'll annoy you nah

I acknowledge that again this isn't my thing. Yep. And that's fine. Okay, cool. Some people get angry though. Yes. I said that in my review. And that's fine.

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Bend for your king. Never. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Only in theaters May 10th. Tickets on sale now Tomorrowland I really liked it Me too

It's received a bit of a pasting in the media I was surprised I liked it as much as I did I don't think it's This is not a spoiler I don't think to say – this is not a spoiler. I don't think to say that it's people – the media have been sort of having a crack at it because it's got quite a heavy-handed moral message in it, which is essentially, hey, work hard and be positive. Yeah.

That's it. Here's my thinking about it. If this were a Disney Pixar movie and were animated, exactly the same moral lesson, exactly the same except it was CGI, people would be like, this is genius. It's got a solid moral lesson for the kids. You are absolutely right. It's a family movie.

It is a family movie, yeah. But now because it's live, people are like, you're really preaching this. Yeah, but that's what all Pixar movies do. It's all about bloody, you know, you've got your childish things but you've got to move on and live your life or bloody you know family are annoying you know that's toy story but you can tell yeah family are annoying but sometimes that's all you've got yeah furious seven i mean the incredibles or bugs life your bugs life yeah but they've all got they've all got a moral lesson

absolutely you know kids can take that on board completely And it looks great and everybody can enjoy it. Look, I feel the same with this. Yeah, look, it wasn't perfect. Yeah. But no, I completely agree. I feel like, I don't know, I liked how optimistic it was. Yeah. And how it was kind of like, you know, you could just do something about what's wrong

instead of standing around with your fucking hands in your pockets or whatever. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I like that. That's a good message. Anyway, we'll get to that. This cost $190 million. Okay, sure.

Which is fairly evident, I would say. Yes, for the most part. For the most part, yeah. It only pulled in, like, slightly more than John Carter's $30 million. So this is John Carter, which is not a good thing. Wow, that's a bad sign. Yeah. Yeah.

And you know what? I want to go back and watch John. I've never you know what? I want to go back and watch John. I've never seen it. So I want to go back and actually see what it's like. After this, I'm like, maybe John Carter's not that bad. Probably isn't that bad. But we'll never know. You're right.

Because it didn't make that much money, so we didn't see it. Look, I haven't seen John Carter. I'm just going to say this. It cannot be worse than Avatar. That's true. Yeah. And that's me not having seen it. Right.

So it could very well be so i guess we'll talk about the story yep we didn't really talk about the story for san andreas did we doesn't matter there's a disaster get it there was a bloody disaster and we had to deal with it there was an earthquake you know who cares you can see it from the you see that you've seen the trailer if you've seen the poster you know what's happening yeah yeah so in this world the world's like modern day earth or whatever it's gone to shit as it kind of has at the moment. It's modern day Earth, sure. It's modern day Earth, yeah.

But also there exists this other world which was kind of established. It's not really, it's around the turn of the century. It's not established where it is or it is later or what it is. But basically it's the best and the brightest go there and they've built this utopia for scientists and artists and the best. It's free of politics and human error. Exactly. Hypothetically speaking.

It's free of Australian politicians wanting to kill Johnny Depp's dogs. Correct. Excellent. And so we follow Casey, who's a teenage girl whose father is an engineer. She's 25 if she's a day. She is 25. She's literally 25. She nailed that.

I looked it up. She's literally 25. She nailed that. I looked it up. She's literally 25. Great. But she plays a teenage girl whose father is an engineer who worked for NASA, but they're dismantling the Cape Canaveral NASA launch site. It's one of my faves. Yeah, it's one of the best launch sites. That's what I'm saying.

So she, in a way that is exactly reminiscent of Garrett Hedlund's character in Tron Legacy is suiting up in like all black and like a motorcycle helmet and driving out on a motorcycle to... It's her legacy. Yeah, to the launch site and sort of sabotaging it every couple of days. And then they re-put together their dismantling machines, I guess. And she's fighting against the inevitability that this space program is being shut down. Yeah.

Because she likes the possibility of it, and that's where, like, nah, kids. Exactly. So she's in class, and you see people, like, all the teachers are like, global warming's killing us, the ecosystem's upside down, and whatever. And she's like, why?

We know this. Why don't we do something? And so she gets arrested for doing this. Why don't we do something? And so she gets arrested for doing this. That's in the trailer. Yep. And then, but when she gets her possessions back,

one of the possessions is a pin with a T on it. Yep. And when she touches it, she sees tomorrow. She's immediately killed. Yes. End of movie. Ten minute movie.

It's probably why it's not making any money. Yeah. And that's it. And that's, if you don't know anything about it, I'd say that's probably why it's not making any money. And that's it. And if you don't know anything about it, I'd say that's all you probably need to know. That's all you probably need to know. I want to talk about why I may have tanked later. Okay, cool. And also, George Clooney is in it.

Yep. He was his child prodigy. He was a child prodigy in the 60s. Yeah. Named Frank Walker. Yeah. Bonus joke if you're an Australian, because Frank Walker owns a discount tile store. Hello! Yeah.

Frank Walker from National Tiles. Correct. And it has a series of, they're like bathroom tiles or floor tiles or whatever, and he has a series of, he has a, I would call it a relentless series of radio ads. Relentless is the ad.

That he records himself where he opens with, Hello, Frank Walker from National Tiles. And then he advertises all these various tiles that are $5 per metre. Didn't you say you had a recurring nightmare where you turn over and Frank Walker's... Is in my bed, yeah. Is like, hello! Correct, yeah.

Thank you for bringing that up. I'd forgotten that until you mentioned it. But anyway, every time his name is mentioned in my bed, yeah. He's like, hello! Correct. Yeah. Thank you for bringing that up. I'd forgotten that until you mentioned it. But anyway, every time his name is mentioned in the movie, if you're Australian, little bonus joke. Yeah. So if you're on the fence and you like jokes that aren't there really but reference a guy who owns a tile store. Probably only that's played in Melbourne.

Yeah, that's probably true. It's very regional. Yeah. Anyway, he was a child prodigy in the 60s. Yeah. That, is it a spoiler to say he was, he made it to Tomorrowland, but then. No, not really. And then he's out for whatever reason.

And then so we find him and he's sort of this bitter recluse. Yeah. Exactly. Anyway, okay, plot. Or what have you got there on your list? That's the plot. Yeah, that is the plot. Yeah.

Straightforward, more or less. I guess you should know going into this, and I knew this, that there's not as much Tomorrowland as you'd think. Yeah, that's very true, actually, yeah. Which didn't actually bother me. Maybe it's because I knew that going in. Also, what number of film is this based on a Disneyland-like property? Because Tomorrowland is an actual...

It was Pirates of the Caribbean. We can do this. Tower of Terror? Was this. Tower of Terror. Was there a Tower of Terror movie? There was a Steve, what's the dude's name from Police Academy? Steve Guttenberg. Steve Guttenberg. It's a Tower of Terror movie.

Pirates, John Carter of Mars, Space Jam. There you go. No. Yeah. But this is another one. It's at least three. Yeah. I listened to a podcast a while ago, because Tomorrowland is, you know, it's Disneyland

sort of... World of Tomorrow! Yeah, it's World of Tomorrow, and it's all the, you know, the future architecture, which is now retro architecture and stuff like that. Brad Bird loves that. Have you noticed that? It's an aesthetic used in a lot of his films. Yeah, yeah, totally.

And it's, you know, and there's apparently, because I've not been, I've been to Euro Disneyland, which is not the same thing. Euro Dickhead. I know. But there's apparently like, you know, a section of like future technology and stuff like that where they sort of, you know, show people what's coming up next kind of thing.

Yeah. But I heard a podcast about somebody who worked at one of those and apparently the technology didn't keep up. So, like with the real world because there wasn't a budget to do that there wasn't a budget to refresh it every and technology might as on faster than i was like you'll have televisions in your head yeah so it'd be like yeah so it'd be like she'd be like and this is a mobile phone that takes pictures and people would just be taking photos of it with their mobile phones you know but you know what that would work if you were

like this is like a retro... Yeah, I guess so. A retro future, yeah. But that's not what it clearly was, I guess. Yeah. That's hilarious. Anyway, that's ultimately the only reason why I brought up that it's based on a ride

because I wanted to show on that end. I guess speaking of that, I loved that kind of retro future kind of world that, which again, as I said, it's in like in Brad Bird's movies, they do a lot of this. Iron Giant does it. Incredibles also does it as well.

I don't know. I just love that aesthetic. And I feel like he obviously does too. It's kind of something he brings into all of his movies. What do you think of the effects though in general? 99% great. What's the one? There's some green screen.

Oh, yeah. Is that with this bit? No, that's pretty good okay that bit yeah but okay it's not a secret to say that eventually some people

make it to Tomorrowland spoiler alert but there's a there's a moment where they arrive and it's very clearly

bad green screen okay sure it does not look good but everything else including Hugh Laurie yeah looks great great CGI yeah so good his hair's getting thicker clearly bad green screen. Okay, sure. It does not look good. But everything else... Including Hugh Laurie. Yeah. Looks great. Great CGI.

Yeah. So good. His hair's getting thicker. I'm just saying. Oh, yeah. Something's going on there. You're saying that's suspicious. Okay, right.

Yeah, but I like the way... Because it does kind of jump back and forth between Tomorrowland and Earth in different time periods and whatever. Either through the pin or through flashbacks or whatever. I think you get enough of Tomorrowland that it's good. It's not like Drive, the movie, where there was very little Drive. I was so upset by that.

You should sue the makers of Drive. Yeah, there was enough Tomorrowland to satisfy your cravings for Tomorrowland. I thought so, yeah. Everyone's good in it. Clooney's great. Clooney is sort of playing against type. Yep, sure. He's more Harrison Ford than he is Clooney.

Yeah, he's very grizzled. They could have gotten Harrison Ford. He couldn't have done the optimism at the end. That's a good point. They could have just gotten some old footage of young Harrison Ford and aged it. Yeah, he's good. Yeah, yeah.

I know that we talked about this last week. Brad Bird nearly left this to make Star Wars, and I'm glad he didn't, even though this didn't tank. But one of the reasons he didn't leave was because Clooney was committed to this as well. And he's like, well, we got Clooney and I don't want to, you know, that's a big get. So I don't want to, you know, disappoint Clooney. But I think a lot of the reason people, you know, I'll talk about that later. Okay.

The girl's good. Britt Robinson. Britt Robinson, yeah. She's in Under the Dome. April 18, 1990 1990 age 25 there you go there you go fantastic uh-huh hugh laurie's great so wait you're saying she's great but she's obviously an adult that's what i'm saying did that annoy you no because nah it's fine okay cool i'm just kind of used to it hugh laurie's good the girl was good i can't remember her name athena

athena she was really good as well. Yeah. I don't know. I just... Are people not... I know Damon Lindelof wrote this, who did Lost. Right. So I can understand. For me as well, I went into this going, Lindelof, hmm.

I needed Prometheus. Okay, sure, yeah. And I guess you could say that the ending to this and where it goes, you might not be happy with it necessarily. There are... Now that you mention it, now that you mention it, you could say that the ending to this and where it goes, you might not be happy with it necessarily. Now that you mention it, now that you mention it, Lindelof, as an avowed non-fan of Lost... You took that oath. Yeah, thank you.

I got a pin. If you think about it afterwards, there are an extraordinary number of loose ends, which they will not resolve in a sequel because there won't be a sequel. No, I don't think there would have been one, even if this was. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a standalone. It's a one unless it did pirates of the Caribbean money. And then there might be another tomorrow. But even then Brad Bird's not really a sequel guy. Like they've been pushing him to do Incredibles two. And he's only now kind of like, Oh,

he's always been like, yeah, I might do it if I get an idea, but he's never been. Yeah. Let's he's always like, if I have an idea, I'll do it.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But yeah, like plot wise, I think it's fairly solid. Yeah. He's always like, if I have an idea, I'll do it. Yeah, yeah, okay. But yeah, plot-wise, I think it's fairly solid. Yeah. But again, yeah, we'll get to it in spoilers. There's some... You do have questions.

If you think about the context of the movie, you think about Tomorrowland as a place, you know, that is connected to Earth in whatever way, you do have questions about. Definitely. I'm going to pee. I'll be back. All right.

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All right, here we go. What are we up to? Let's just talk spoilers. Oh, look. Okay, before we get into spoilers, this is definitely best movie ever for me. What about you? I'm going to say best movie ever.

I enjoyed it a lot. And I'm going to say I liked its optimism. Me too, yeah. Why can't more things be optimistic? Well. I think this could be, I don't know, an inspiring kind of film for kids and stuff. Oh, yeah? I don't know, man.

Lame. Shut up. You shut up. Spoilers. All right. Hang on. Anything else? No, that'll do it.

All right. Great. Anything you want to spoilers talk about? Okay, here's the thing. Here's one of the loose ends. Yes. Well, it's not a loose end. Once the movie's over, you do question what happens.

The method by which somebody... Actually, it was slightly confusing as to how you actually get to Tomorrowland and what is actually going to Tomorrowland, what is just a preview of Tomorrowland. So when you hold the pin, what you see what is just a preview of Tomorrowland. So when you hold the pin, what you see is essentially an interactive preview of Tomorrowland. Yeah, it's like a recording, yeah. That is ludicrous.

The method by which you inform somebody that Tomorrowland exists is utter nonsense. Because first, you have to get the pin. Athena has to find the person they're going to give the pin to. She has to observe them. She has to take a sample of their DNA, in this case, the hair, so it to get the pin. Athena has to find the person they're going to give the pin to. She has to observe them. She has to take a sample of their DNA, in this case, the hair, so it only functions for them. She programs the pin.

Then she sneakily gives it to them, and without instructing them at all as to how it works or what is going to happen to them, she gives them the pin. She leaves, and then they touch the pin and freak out and they freak out and they end up

in this interactive virtual world preview of Tomorrowland and when you move around in that world you also move like it's overlaid on the real world

so when you move in that virtual it's like the Oculus Rift yeah so when you move in that virtual world you also live you also move

in the real world and she's like i've used up all my pins you know why she's used up all the pins because everybody who she gave one to died like fell down a flight of stairs well exactly so like they walked into a an ocean and they got caught in a rip or they fell down a manhole or whatever because you don't like i guess the point is that you have to be smart enough to figure out how it works yeah before you die but exactly what happens she falls down a flight of stairs yeah casey falls down a flight of stairs and she nearly dies which she cracks her head on like a concrete wall um she nearly drowns yeah we we've talked about in the past one of the things that i like in movies yeah is looking at a a situation yeah where somebody will take a hit that in a real world situation would clearly kill

them yeah this movie i think has a record number of those so we've got casey falling down the flight i reckon every on average maybe every 10 minutes somebody takes a hit that would definitely kill them yeah so casey falls down the stairs you can definitely die from that absolutely um right at the start we see little little George Clooney. Yeah. He puts on his little jet pack. Yeah. And he flies through like a field.

Oh, yeah. And he cracks like his entire body, like bounces across the ground. Yeah. Like four times. Yeah. Like 100 miles an hour. If he was Superman, that would be like, yeah, well, he's Superman. Yeah, but he's not.

He's a little kid, dead four times in a row. There's a whole bunch of those. That would have just kept going, just dragging his body. Yes. Breaking more limbs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're's not. He's a little kid, dead four times in a row. There's a whole bunch of those. That would have just kept going, just dragging his body. Yes. Breaking more limbs. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

Other than that, it was pretty good. But if it was a Pixar movie. Yeah, people were like, ah, they've done it again. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Wacky slapstick. Yeah, I liked little George Clooney, actually. Yeah? I thought he was really good.

He was reminiscent of big George Clooney. Do you think there is any chance he will grow up to look like George Clooney? No, no, no, no, absolutely not. That never happens. No, it doesn't. You're right. You know what, though? I liked the reveal of what Tomorrowland was.

I liked that too. Yeah. I thought that there was not enough exploration of what Tomorrowland was now. Yes, because it's run down, but you don't know why. Yeah, so when you touch the pin, you see a preview of what Tomorrowland either could be or was for a while but isn't anymore. And then when they finally make it to Tomorrowland, it looks like sort of this run-down amusement park,

which I thought was quite interesting. And I thought there was going to be some sort of revelation that they had some technology, but politics had torn it all apart yeah now most of it didn't work and maybe that's what maybe that was true but we didn't when we got to tomorrowland all we saw was hugh laurie yeah and some guards who were probably robots who could have potentially been robots or almost certainly robots right at the end we see they've built some more athena-like children yeah And they're going to send them out into the world. Yeah.

And we see some adults behind them. Yes. Which are presumably the denizens of Tomorrowland. But they've got bloody Billy Ray Cyrus is there as well. It's not his name. Her dad, who's a country singer, isn't he? Right, yeah. And he's there as well.

Okay. So is it potentially the only person left is Hugh Laurie? See, we don't get enough information. I mean, I'd presume no. But you're right. They never clarify that. Look, I assumed that the reason that it's been run down is because they stopped bringing people in. Okay.

I don't know whether that's true. But I felt like there was a bit where I was like, did I miss something? Right, yeah. Yeah. You're right. I don't disagree with you yeah exactly but i did really like we talk about the world building a lot the idea that you know edison and tesla and a couple of other guys so that they either that was brad bird as well as one of the i think it was tesla

i might be wrong yeah okay yeah sorry go on i was thinking of him as um the costume maker in incredibles because that's his voice, I think. Yeah, it is. You're right. It just looks like that. Like that it was built, they either found this parallel universe or they built this sort of pocket dimension. And then we find in the 60s, you know, they've built these sort of mass scale 3D printing robots. And so they're building the world.

Yeah. When we get to the end and it's all run down. That's right. It's pretty good. Yeah. I like the robots in this as well. I'm not talking the human-ish robots. Their names are actually

the same names that they give the animatronic robots in Disney. Oh, interesting. I can't remember what the name is. But I liked the retro fighty-fighty robots that you kind of see

in Tomorrowland as well. You know what I did enjoy? What's that? When they go into the store, I think it's, is that Key or Peele? It's Keegan. Yeah.

Who's great. Yeah. Catherine Hahn. Both those guys are awesome. I is that Key or Peel? It's Key. It's Key, yeah. Who's great. Yeah. Catherine Hahn. Both those guys are awesome. I loved that store. Just all the stuff in it. Because you saw like Planet of the Apes and like. There was a lot of Star Wars stuff in there.

Yeah, giant Star Wars. There was a lot of cross-promotional Star Wars stuff. Yeah, it was really cool. I just, I don't know, because for me, I like going to those stores. Like I normally don't buy anything, but I like like having a look at all that stuff. And that was a nice little nod. And it clearly shows that like, yeah, no, Disney, we have Star Wars. This is ours.

We can put as many Star Wars toys in there as we want. Yeah. So I guess Hugh Laurie put those robots there. Yeah, I guess he did. Because why were they trying to kill Athena? Because... they trying to kill athena because oh because they wanted to stop people attempting to go into tomorrowland like regular humans from going into tomorrowland yeah fair enough yeah yeah because she was decommissioned was to be decommissioned but her programming kind of kicked in and she yeah they killed a lot of people in this yeah it's interesting it's interesting it's not like

a bloody explosion i wonder what the audience like the the audience demographic is supposed to be for this movie yeah because it can't be for very young children because a lot of people die they don't get knocked unconscious they are turned to goo but then again i think this at risk of using this word harkens oh here we go back to like know, in like the 80s and 90s, you could kill a guy in a kid's film and it's fine. Like kids can handle that.

Yeah, true. Do you know what I mean? Like I think there's way too much cotton wool about this kind of thing. It's different if it was like a gooey explosion of blood. Yep. Then that's different.

It's a kid's movie. I don't think this is any worse than like The Goonies or Jumanji or any of that. Oh, sure. Jumanji, there's a man trapped in a, there's a boy movie. I don't think this is any worse than like The Goonies or Jumanji or any of that. Oh, sure. Jumanji, there's a boy trapped in a fake jungle or something for like four decades or whatever it is. But I think that little edge of terrifying in kids movies is a good thing. Yeah.

And I don't think they give kids enough credit. That's, I think, why Doctor Who was so successful for kids for a long time. Because you could, you know, bloody knock off a character or or two yeah you know that's why you like it so much yeah you know what it's also it's it's original yes true you know what i mean yeah and this if anything this is this tanking it's only going to be superhero movies and disaster movies and star wars movies forever. And look, I think the reason it tanked is, and I think I also read this on Film Drunk, was because this wasn't marketed properly.

Like people were like, weren't aware of it or didn't know what it was. And I like Clooney, but Clooney's not a draw card. You don't put Clooney in a kid's film and then kids go, oh my God, it's my favorite actor, George Clooney. Correct. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. You put a Jonas brother. That's's an outdated reference i don't know he came after bieber i don't know yeah do you know what i mean yeah and so i don't know who

you'd put in his place or how you would market it maybe you push the more fantastical elements of it but even then maybe kids were disappointed or people were disappointed that there wasn't enough Tomorrowland in it. Yeah. It's tough to know what kids like. It's hard, isn't it? You know what I mean? If you're a kid, what do you like? Tell us.

Do kids like zipping around on jetpacks? I don't know. Yeah. I bloody don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you're right though.

I didn't even think, if this was a Pixar movie. Yeah. Yeah, it would have made a billion dollars. Oh, you know what just occurred to me? Classic Disney trope. Yeah. I didn't even think if this was a Pixar movie, yeah, it would have made a billion dollars. Oh, you know what just occurred to me? Classic Disney trope. Yeah. Where's Casey's mom?

Okay. Dead, probably. Where's George Clooney's parents? He abandons them. Yeah, because, I mean, he goes to Tomorrowland. He stays there until the 80s. It looks like. He stays there for 20 years because he's kicked out in 1984.

Yeah. Did they worry about it? he's kicked out in 1984. Yeah. What, did they worry about it? Just in time for the goodies. Yeah. Did they, I don't know. I assume his parents are dead. His dad hated him,

yeah. Oh, did, his dad hated him. Oh, that's right, it was too, yeah.

So I guess they just didn't feel the need to address it because his dad hated him. But he didn't, we didn't see his mom. If I, I don't understand a dad who's like, don't build that you're

an idiot my dad would be like don't kill yourself with that jetpack he would be like you're an idiot yeah that's true yeah what kind of dad is that yeah i guess people some people have bad dads but yeah that was very sobering all of a sudden why is it the what is the premise behind all disney characters having dead parents i think it's sympathy and relatability. Is it? Yeah, mate. Not relatability. No.

It's more sympathy. But you know what I think it is? And people have probably written articles on this before. People better than you. Yeah, better than me, obviously. Yeah. Go on. It's a podcast.

Is it because the kids always go on an adventure? Yeah. And if their parents are alive, you couldn't... Like the parents would say, well, don't go out there and don't risk your life. Okay, sure. And so if the kids go out there

and do it anyway, it's implied that disobeying your parents is a fun, wild ride and is a positive outcome. Yeah. So in the 60s, that would have been all about be good to your parents or whatever.

Yeah, exactly. Do what they tell you to do. Right, but if the parents are dead, you can go on an adventure and there's no one to disprove. You can go right into a bloody Tomorrowland. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Mm or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Do what they tell you to do. Right, but if the parents are dead, you can go on an adventure and there's no one to disprove. You can go right into a bloody Tomorrowland. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

Dead parents, what's the deal? What's going on there? I can't help you. So the Eiffel Tower was a rocket. Oh, yeah. Sure. You know, it was very reminiscent of, we should put this pre-spoilers,

but it was very reminiscent to me of the video game Bioshock. Harkin's back. It did Harkin back. We could Harkin back back earlier to the podcast but by that i mean you could edit this this back end but you won't um did you ever play bioshock yeah i didn't finish it that was really good i know i know i'd also played infinite which i think is probably even more reminiscent yeah it's sort of it's sort of people who've eccentric billionaires slash scientists who decided to uh separate from the rest of society and build their own yeah but i think especially the first bioshock where

you know it's even there's even a little elevator absolutely there is yeah you're right rapture slash tomorrow you're absolutely right yeah and i'm but i really like bioshock and really i'm not saying it's a i'm not saying it was a rip off I'm saying I think that's not a coincidence oh yeah because even like

the middle of the because that elevator is just in the middle of water like Rapture it's kind of it's a bit of both because when they get to Tomorrowland at the end

it's kind of run down like the world of Rapture but at the start when it's all buzzing and going it's like Bioshock Infinite because that world is buzzing and going and there's

it's a functioning world steampunking for a while here's one of those potholes i was talking about not a pothole here's one of the questions i have little george clooney little clones yeah he gets in the elevator and they're like put on your helmet otherwise you'll be seriously injured and he can't reach the helmets why didn't they have seat belts that's it yeah yeah it's a question for you i mean it's again one of those tests. If you don't make it through, then your bone density isn't good enough for Tomorrowland. Then they just stop the elevator in the middle,

in between the real world and Tomorrowland, and they just turf you right out into nothingness. It's a weird limbo. That Tomorrowland also felt a little bit like Thor The Dark World. We sort of fleshed out Asgard, and it's this, you can only get this. It's not quite, it's not another planet. I think Asgard is another planet. Is it though?

I think it's a realm. I think it's a pocket dimension. Yeah, I don't know. You're probably right. You're probably right. Yeah, I think you are. Don't send letters. I don't want to know.

No, no, I want an essay on the similarities and differences between Asgard and Tomorrowland. If I could have that, that'd be great. Bye, tomorrow. Yeah, I don't know. Look, I can't say – I know a lot of people hated this and have hated it. I've even got a letter here. Do you want me to read this?

Yes. Can I give you another plot hole? Yeah. Okay. Here's the question, and we said this pre-spoilers. It leaves you with a lot of questions about how Tomorrowland relates to the regular world. Yeah. Why don't the people of Tomorrowland offer any of these technologies to Earth?

I presume because they didn't. I understand that they've got guns that can disintegrate a person. They wouldn't give those to... Because you can't give someone a jetpack. Yeah, but I mean, you can't give them the jetpack or the laser gun or the teleporter even because they'd be used in war. You can give them the shake that keeps them alive forever. That's what I'm saying.

Okay. Hugh Laurie drinks a shake every morning that gives him eternal youth. Surely they have other medical technologies or they can fix... Because at one point, Hugh Laurie's like, this world has both starvation and obesity in the same world. What? Yeah.

Surely you could give them any kind of... Do they have a complete non-intervention policy? I think that's what it's become. Right, okay. And I think when George Clooney invented a machine, if you haven't seen this, I guess, he invents... No, we're in spoilers. It's fine.

Spoilers, yeah. But I mean, I'm saying it in case you're, if you haven't seen this, I guess, he invents a machine. No, we're in spoilers. We're in spoilers, yeah. But I mean, I'm saying it in case you're listening and you haven't watched it. He invents a machine which basically ruins Tomorrowland and Earth. Sure, yeah. Whereas it predicts the future and you can see any point in time, past or present,

and the Earth is going to end in whatever this year is. Uh-huh, yeah. And what were we even talking about before that? Plot holes. I don't even remember where I was going with that. So I guess, and they're like, why interfere? It's done. So I'm assuming that's what it is.

Also, they don't like Earth. Yeah, because it's full of jerks. It's full of jerks. And I can understand that. Like, I wouldn't be invited. Well, Hugh Laurie doesn't. Presumably all the other, potentially all the other. Clooney doesn't like Earth either.

Sorry? Clooney doesn't like Earth. That's true, yeah. He's got his little bloody house. That's pretty good. But, yeah, so in the end, I just want to talk this out. The machine was basically, he'd set it to broadcast the end of the world in people's heads.

Yep. And people just ate that up. Sure, yeah. And they kept making media and video games and movies and whatever. Did they set to broadcast or did it accidentally broadcast? I think he did it. Oh, Hugh Laurie. Yeah, he and whatever. Did they set to broadcast or did it accidentally broadcast? I think he did it. Oh, Hugh Laurie. Yeah, he did it.

Yeah. And that's what's setting about the end of the world. I thought that was really interesting because that really, not explains because it's not an actual explanation. It does take humanity off the hook for being dicks though, doesn't it? It does. It does. But I like that kind of explanation where it's kind of like, yeah, we are obsessed with

the end of the world and everybody's seemingly hanging out for the zombie apocalypse. And this is a movie about the end of the world. Exactly. Ironic much? But I don't know. Again, I like they turned around. It became optimistic. It's like, not everything's doom and gloom.

Fucking lighten up. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? That's true, yeah. Do you know what I mean? That's true, yeah. And this to me as well, and this is unrelated, like it puts questions in people's minds like, why don't we have an electric car or a sustainable source of fuel for anything?

Why do we know that we shouldn't be cutting down the rainforest or whatever, but people still do? I don't mean to get into this. This is what this is about. But I think that that's the right kind of message to be sending people. Not like make a bunker because everybody's going to kill you sure do you know what i mean you can have both yeah why can't things be optimistic and the future's not all yeah fucked i read an article on boing boing the other day boing boing.net yes that activism and like you know cyber activism

and stuff like that that's like well active well, activists do what they do because they believe that if they do that, they might enact some positive change. So why not? Exactly. Why not? Anyway. Yeah, pretty good. Look, and maybe that's why I liked it.

You're just an old softy at heart, aren't you? Maybe I am. Yeah. Courtney Heck has written in. You know her. Yeah, I know. She's great. She said the movie was fine.

One of our best listeners. One of our best. I'm going to put my foot, I'm going to say one of our best. In your face, everybody her. Yeah, I know. She's great. She said the movie was fine. One of our best listeners. One of our best. I'm going to say one of our best. In your face, everybody else. Yeah, that's right. She said the scenes with Clooney and the girl were weird. Like the robot girl. Oh, because there's...

I think there was a lot of potential for it to be weird. Yeah. But I don't think it was that weird. I didn't... Because the girl's a robot. Yeah. It's kind of... It's a little bit, to use your phrase, you just said off the hook.

In a way, it is kind of weird, I guess. It is off the hook. Yeah, so, no, I thought they had good chemistry, but no, I can understand how you can see that as, yeah, that's a bit off. Because he grew up and she didn't. Yeah, exactly. And I liked that bit at the end where she was like, you're just not very funny. Yeah, it was funny. That was good.

Anyway, do you want me to read this letter here from Peter? I'd love for you to read a letter that I listened to with my ears. I've just jumped in the middle of this letter. Oh, sure, yeah. The movie was terrible. My wife turned to me early on and said, does it seem slow? To which I replied, I think it's a slow burn.

Where was I wrong? There was not enough of the Tomorrowland, as implied by the trailer. I found the plot convolted or convoluted. I do mean that. You can do a quick edit. It'll be fine. And boring.

The visual spectacle lacking and the premise overcomplicated. At the end, when I was waiting to see who wrote the film, I saw the name that I thought was familiar. I jumped on Wikipedia, which everyone in the cinema was, while everyone in the cinema was leaving, and my wife was waking up and confirmed my suspicions. It was one of the writers from Lost David Lindelof. I was once a fan of the Lost Finale.

I've hated myself ever since. So yeah, all those criticisms are valid, I think. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Again, I thought that, I thought there was some. Special effects.

There was definitely some special effects. I think, I think that there was some, they weren. There was definitely some special effects. I think that there was some... They weren't plot holes, strictly speaking, because the movie still works. Yeah. It's just post the movie ending, there's some big questions about where it's going to go. Yeah.

Like, what are they going to do? Are they going to completely change this world? It's kind of... If you've got a whole bunch of these robot kids and you send them out into the real world and said hey get everybody to think positive and and build technology or whatever and work hard get backs then that would be you know that would be a positive change in the world but also they also have vast incredible technology so surely those robot children could just take the technology out in the world yeah

like why don't they yeah like you know you know you say what i'm saying i completely agree they've got enough it's all game-breaking technology and so you can say hey work out and be you know work out and stay positive and you'll fix the world yeah or you could just send the technology out of the world and that would fix the world but i don't even i don't think it would right i think i think you've got to change the mindset of people. Oh, I see what you're saying. It's like handing someone a gun and be like, only shoot bad people. Oh, yeah.

Do you know what I mean? You don't have a gun on you, do you? I don't. Oh, that's a shame. Because I was all fired up to shoot some bad people. I will judge whether they're good or bad and then I will shoot them. Do you know what I mean? I think it's not just handing somebody a magic wand.

Yeah, totally. I think it's about changing the mindset. And maybe, it's hard to say, you know. Let's just hope there's not zombies at the end of the day. Look,

I think it's great. Me too. I enjoy it. But I understand if you don't and look, I hope people don't go see this on our recommendation

and then hate us. Because yeah. Well, you know what? It's a movie. Move on. Move on with your life. Yeah. So, yeah.

I hope people do see it on a recommendation. Okay. Good. Best movie ever. Best movie ever, yeah. Good fun. Underrated. Maybe this is one of those ones that will come around in a few years.

Like John Carter has. And everyone has seen it and loves it. I'm going to watch that. I'm watching that now. Yes. Not now. All right. You know what it's time for? What's it time for? What we reading we read and what we're gonna read now do the right don't put the real one in i'm doing the

thing what are we reading today what are you reading uh i'm reading hang on where are we i'm reading a comic a a book. Hang on, give me one second. I'll give you two seconds. No, you give me heaps of seconds. Do you want me to talk while you're looking? Yeah, go ahead. All right. I'm going to see a documentary this week called Montage of Heck, which is about Nirvana. Oh, the Kurt and Courtney documentary? Kurt Cobain Nirvana? Yeah, I like Nirvana. I want to go see it. Oh yeah. I don't think there's been a proper Nirvana documentary with the actual music in, like a cinematic one. Oh, sure, okay.

There was a series on TV here a few years back where they went through the history of popular music, and there was a section which focused on grunge and Nirvana and that kind of era. But I'd like to see a whole lot of that. I was having this conversation with someone the other day, actually, unrelated. When, say, rock stars die now,

you know where everything Kurt Cobain's ever written down or every photograph he's taken or every tape that he's recorded is now out there? Yeah, yeah. So many people are just going to take, like, Amy Winehouse's Facebook and just go, here you go, everybody. Have a look at this. Yeah. Like, is that what's going to happen now? I think so. Okay, so when you die-

She's been dead a really long time. If that hasn't happened already. Yeah, I know, but Kurt Cobain stuff wasn't all released straight away. Let's say one of the Jonas Brothers. When one of the Jonas Brothers dies. When Nicholas Jonas Brother, that's one of them, right? Yeah. Yeah. Do you think that's going to get to that point, though? I would say so, yeah.

But you leave a big digital footprint or whatever. Well, it's all out there anyway. I think this era is already... I think it's all very... I think the era's already gone. I think Kurt Cobain's one of the few people that still has undiscovered stuff to take out into the world, like everybody else. Like who shot him.

Yeah. You're one of those people who... Do you think it was his wife? No, he didn't. Absolutely. But yeah, I think every other artist right now, they put every photo they take on Instagram and every note and every blah-de-blah,

it's all up there. So I think when somebody dies, eventually somebody will hack their phone or whatever and release their Evernote notes or whatever. Or one of their friends on Facebook with their assumed name will release that and take a screen grab and put that up or whatever. But other than that, no. Okay, fair enough.

Just before you go, yours. Guns N' Roses or Nirvana? I have to pick one? Yeah.vana good good question that's it's tougher than i thought now that i think about it it's unfair because guns and roses kept going sort of they sure kind of did yeah and i also i have extreme distaste for axel rose i think he's a massive dickhead. Okay, I understand. And look, Kurt Cobain may have been, but he didn't live that long, so we'll never know. Right, right, right.

Yeah. And I like Dave Grohl. Yeah. Seems like a pretty stand-up dude. Yeah. There's a story in, I think it's Slash's autobiography. Yeah.

Okay, yeah. Where they were, you know, they were just starting out. You know, they'd just sort of broken big in Guns N' Roses. And Slash and I think one of the other guys, Duff, is he a guy? Duff McKagan, I think, was in Guns N' Roses. And Slash and I think one of the other guys, Duff, is he a guy? Duff McKagan, I think, was in Guns N' Roses.

Anyway, they were both living in a place which was like a rented storage space or something like that. With like a roller door on it. And anyway, one of them was having sex with a groupie. They were both there at the time. Okay. And he finished. And some got on the other guy. And the other guy's like, man, we've got to get a bigger place.

So that's worth the story, I think. That's horrendous. Rock and roll. The last time that Axl Rose and Slash spoke, I think Axl Rose insulted his mum or attacked his mum. And Slash confronted him about it in the car. And Axl Rose insulted his mum or attacked his mum and Slash confronted him about it in the car and Axl Rose jumped out. And that's the last time they spoke. That's pretty great.

That was in like the early 90s. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Great stuff. Also, you can see this. There's a clip online of Kurt Cobain in an interview talking about how Axl Rose threatened to beat him up because he was like mocking him at like an award ceremony. He's like, hey, will you be the godchild of our baby or whatever? And Axl Rose is like, I'll kill you or whatever.

And he's like, ah, you're right. Yeah. So that's pretty good. I think Axl Rose takes himself away too seriously. And I know he was also resentful of... And he had cornrows for a while. But he was also resentful like because Nevada was called alternative music and he's like, well, we're Alternative 2 or whatever.

You're hair metal, mate. Calm down. Anyway. Great. Go on, Mason. Oh, I just read the first issue of a book called Injection. Okay. Which is by Warren Ellis, who's one of my favorites.

One of your faves. I think I read a book by him last week as well, Matrice. Yeah, I read that, actually. I'm in the process. It's great. It's really good. So anyway, this is Warren Ellis and Declan Shalvey

who did Moon Knight. Yes. The first run of Moon Knight and they're on another book. I'll read you the summary. Please do. It's from Comixology. It says,

Once upon a time there were five crazy people and they poisoned the 21st century. Now they have to deal with the corrosion to try and save us all from a world becoming too weird to support human life.

Sounds pretty good, right? That does sound pretty good. It's gone to slow burn. Not a lot has happened yet. Okay. But it looks pretty good. It's gone to slow burn. Not a lot has happened yet. Okay. But it looks pretty good. Something will happen at some point. If you like Warren Ellis' storytelling, and I do,

and if you don't, bloody stop listening. No, I'm kidding. Anyway, I like it, and the art's really great. What's that called again? It's called Injection. All right, then. Let's check it out. Yeah.

I've got here as well, a few people have written about this, including Kyle Jones, Kung Fury. Oh, then. Let's check it out. Yeah. I got here as well. A few people have written about this, including Kyle Jones. Kung Fury. Oh, yes. Which is this fan-funded 80s action movie. Yeah. And look, I'm always skeptical. A very 80s style. Yeah.

And I'm always skeptical of these kind of like, oh, it's like an intentional B movie. Because it's everything the internet loves. Exactly. But the point of a B movie is that they don't know that it's a B movie. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? The company that made it is called Lazy Unicorn. Yeah.

Which is, that is very much a company built by the internet. Yes, definitely. What do the internet love? Lasers and unicorns. Put them together. Look, it's 30 minutes. Yep. And I watched it and it's pretty great.

Really? Okay, cool. All right. It's, a lot of the stuff's in, it's like, you know, like it's one of those like Robocop-esque cities where crime's just insane. Yeah. There's a bit where a cop rolls up to like a gang and one of the gang members puts a skateboard on the ground and he like kicks it up and the cop car just like flies off into the distance. Right, okay, yeah. It's like, it's stuff like that.

And there's all like Nazis and zombies and Hitler and I don't think there's zombies. So it's all that stuff. Yeah, it's the stuff the internet loves. It's, yeah, okay, but it's good. But it's all like Nazis and zombies and Hitler and I don't think there's zombies. So it's all that stuff. Yeah. It's the stuff the internet loves. It's the stuff the internet loves. Yeah. Okay. But it's good.

But it's good. Okay. Yeah. And the kung fu and action is also quite good and special effects. Excellent. Yeah. There's a cop that's got a triceratops head. Nice.

Okay. He is a triceratops. Worth the price of admission, which is free because it's on YouTube. Which is free. It's on YouTube. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to check that out.

Got an email from here from Connor for what he's reading. Recently, I was listening to another podcast. What? I know. He says, sorry for my podcasting infidelity. Good. Called Distraction Pieces. Cheating Connor.

By Scroobius Pip. Oh, yeah. In conversation with everyone's favorite madman, Alan Moore. The podcast Moore talks about a lot of interesting things that have happened in his career. In particular, he's developing a TV show that would cross over into a film, that would cross over into comic books and apps and even its own energy drink.

I won't do justice to explaining how quite insane and ambitious the project was. It's really interesting. Listen right up to the part where Alan Moore says that he believes in magic. If you need any more proof that he believes in magic if you need any uh any more proof that he's crazy there you have it there you go so i might give that a listen because yeah alan moore man he's a fascinating cat couldn't get his facebook buddy could you no lives in a house i wonder how much of that is just like he's just messing with people well he's he's written apparently a one million word novel oh yeah so yeah. So we'll see how that goes.

That's probably too many, isn't it? Yeah. I think we're going to have to get, even fans of his are going to have to work in teams and each read 100,000 words and then just summarize it briefly to the other people. I'll take that. Like the Wikipedia synopsis will be like a novel in itself. Yeah.

Anyway. Yeah. Letters, it's time for letters. Also good to see Scroobius Pip still doing stuff. Yes. That's right. Letters. It's time for letters. Also good to see Scroobius Pip still doing stuff. Yes. That's right. Letters. It's time for letters. Now, Mason, remember how I said, hey, nobody send in any themes. Oh yeah. I'm going to make an exception this week. And this is the only exception I'm ever going to make for this. Okay. Great. Somebody, and you said last week, don't make a dubstep letters theme. I'm sure I said do definitely.

Yeah, I think you said do. So anyway, we got this from Navid. You ready? Yeah. Somebody put a dubstep behind that. No! Where's the gorilla? Where's the gorilla?

Where's the gorilla? Great. The best. Pretty good. What's off? Okay, fine. It's a what's off. Can you email that to me?

Absolutely. I'll do it right now. No, do it later. What are you going to do with it? Make my ringtone, I guess. It's in our email. You can just get it. i could just get it i guess sure yeah that's right you have access to it all right uh it's from kieran from ireland i love it when people send in music and odd super cuts that make us sound like massive idiots so if anybody was thinking about doing one of those don't do it

not do it uh it's kyan from ireland be saying that wrong. K-I-A-N? Yeah. With all those long-awaited sequels. Unpronounceable Kyan. That's your nickname. With all the long-awaited sequels, remakes and reboots yet to come out this year, Jurassic World, Point Break and Fantastic Four, do you guys think that modern cinema is getting too washed down

with all the same stuff over and over again? Yes. My answer is absolutely yes but maybe just our and also it's probably a factor of us just getting really old but yeah like there's some great independent cinema and stuff like that coming out but that's never hitting the mainstream and it's never making a lot of money you know that's a really good point it's yeah but i think a lot of the mainstream stuff we get is still quite good give me an example tomorrowland i don't know like what's like all the marvel stuff yeah look i think anytime anyone produces anything that's not i i think like whenever somebody produces something that's not based on a book or on a video game or on a comic book yeah and it's not a reboot or a reimagining or whatever yeah you know you ever

noticed that it's sort of it's it's hailed as this amazing achievement yeah you're right so i think that's probably a bad sign yeah and look i know this episode's all about staying positive yeah but i don't know yeah it does seem like they're running out of ideas. Yeah, you're right. But it's okay. We'll be dead soon. Yeah, it doesn't matter, does it? It doesn't matter. Who bloody cares? Yeah, you're right.

I would like to see more. Yeah, but it doesn't sell. Exactly. That's the point. That's the extent of it. Okay, I want to come back to Point Break. Okay. We've got another letter here.

This is from Sean K. Hey, greetings. I was wondering what your feelings are of the rumors of jaden smith notorious movie destroyer and world-class arsehat portraying static shock did you hear that i did not hear that no personally uh i see this more as a smith family nepotism since will smith is now involved with the dcu is dead shot uh this wouldn't be the first time i should have happened as karate kid uh will and jada executive producers and And who could forget that shit movie After Earth? Haven't seen it.

But it's independent and... An original premise. Maybe we will see it. Yeah, we should have to. No, I've heard that's just the worst. Are you as annoyed of this news as I am? Okay, end rant. Love the show.

Sean K. What do you think? You go ahead first. Sean K's nickname should be Sean of the K. Don't like that. Special K. Should be Special K the K. I like that. Special K. Should be Special K. Fine.

Yeah, God. I think Sean of the K's, there's something there. I think, I think, I think there's a reason I'm in charge of nicknames. The start is because I just invented that a couple of weeks ago. Uh, yeah. No, he's not very good, is he? No, not at all. Um, I, you know, look, I'm not a massive Static Shock fan.

I don't know that much about him. That being said, I know a lot of people love this character, and I know a lot of people are annoyed by this, and I understand why. Yeah. It's probably not a good idea. Look, I haven't seen enough of Jaden Smith. I've seen enough of him on Twitter and whatever.

I don't follow him. Right, okay. You're saying it's regardless of that. How much acting ability do you need? I think the question is, how much acting ability do you need to portray a superhero character? Yeah. And does Jaden Smith cross that threshold?

Or is he just getting it because his dad's famous? Yeah. And, okay, if he's a good enough actor, does it just annoy people because he's an annoying person, it seems, in real life? Yeah, it's possible. Yeah. I don't think he's a good enough actor. You, in real life? Yeah, it's possible. Yeah, okay.

I don't think he's a good enough actor. You don't? No, not from what I've seen. Because, again, I haven't seen enough experience with him. Look, you know what? He seems to have gotten worse. Oh, interesting. Like, Pursuit of Happiness, he's like a little, little kid and he's quite good.

And even the Karate Kid, which a lot of people don't like, he's fine in that. Jackie Chan's really good in that, actually. Oh, sure. I'm not kidding. He really is. But since, yeah, but like from what I've seen, the clips of, yeah, maybe you're right.

Maybe I haven't seen enough of him. From what I've seen from the clips of the last one, After Earth, like just he does this weird nowhere accent. Okay, sure. And it's just, and maybe that comes down to the film. Maybe he's better than what I think he is. But I don't know. I can't see people getting past that.

If people can't get past Will Smith as Deadshot, which I can. Yeah. People are not going to get past Jaden Smith as Static Shock. I think it's just Static. Really? Yeah. We'll get letters. That's all I'm saying.

All right, cool. Are you sure? That doesn't matter, does it? I think that's hard. I remember, no, it was called Static, and then the second series that it was in was called Static Shock. Okay, sure. Static, DC Comics.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. It's just called Static. Yeah, you're right. I read Milestone. I read the bloody Milestone universe. You know what's up. I was all over it. We should do an episode on Defunct Comic Book Universes.

I know. I keep saying that. No, but look at all these. Jaden Smith's cast as superhero static shock. Well, he's bloody wrong. It's not just me. No, it's everybody. Yeah.

All right. I apologize. Like I said, don't know that much about the character. All right. One more question. Glenn has one question. I wish that was the question. Glenn?

Glenn, where are you, Glenn? What's the worst thing to hit the internet in the last week? Point Break trailer or the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen getting a reboot? Oh, that's news, isn't it? Yeah. I've thought I'd wait till the end. That is fascinating that League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is getting a reboot. Can't be worse.

Exactly. It can't be worse. It could actually be good. I'm not fussed by it, to be honest. I would be astounded if anybody sees it why why would anyone say it yeah you're right it's not really superhero-y enough you'd have to cast it well yeah you'd need big names like but how are you gonna get the money yeah you're right i don't know how are you how are you gonna get the money how are you gonna convince somebody that's

not gonna be terrible I don't know. I mean, which is worse news? That's the question, I guess. Which is worse news, Point Break or this? Ladies and gentlemen. You just watched the Point Break trailer before we started. I did, yeah. And?

It's very blue. Like rude? No, just blue in colour. Are you a fan of the original? I'm not against the original. But I know people will sit down and watch it every... Year, month, second. Every second.

Yeah. Every second they're awake, it's just in their eyes. I am not really fussed by either of these, to be honest. No, not really. I'm not in love with Point Break. It doesn't look very good. I probably won't see it. Yeah.

Unless we do an episode on it. I hope it's slightly more realistic. I probably won't see it unless we do an episode on it. I hope it's slightly more realistic. Nowadays, everything's got to be more realistic. Correct. I hope it's more realistic in the sense that when the Keanu Reeves character is on the beach and he can't shoot his friend, so instead he puts the gun up in the air and he just fires it and fires it.

I hope, A, those bullets land and kill a fish, but also later he has to fill in all the paperwork. then he's like oh yeah because you have to every time you fire a bullet it's yeah when did you use it exactly yeah so yeah in summary i don't care about either of those things and they're both probably going to be just okay or bad it'll be like um it'll be like the miami vice reboot oh yeah that's that was shit, wasn't it? It was just fine, you know? We saw that, didn't we? Yeah.

They had a speedboat that went to Cuba. Probably did, yeah. It'll just be fine. It'll be another action movie. Yeah. It's not going to have the kitsch value that the old one did. Nope. It's weird, though, because Fast and and the furious is essentially a remake of point break

yeah and now this is kind of like fast and remake of fast and the furious sure yeah with like the main guy don't you think he looks very paul walker light a little bit yeah okay and i love the bit of the because he's again he's an fbi agent who's going undercover in a gang and whatever which was the first fast and furious movie i love the in it, and everybody's pointed this out, where it's like, I think these are extreme athletes like me. Yeah. It has to be ridiculous for this to work, right? And it doesn't look ridiculous enough.

No, it doesn't look ridiculous enough. Well, Mason, we might be recording a Jurassic Park commentary, right? Sure, yeah. Maybe after this, maybe? Maybe after this. Let's get some lunch. Yeah, good idea. What do you want to get?

That's pretty light for lunch. Get a burger. All right. Good idea great so you can find that on our patreon page patreon.com slash mr sunday movies if you already are if you already are a patreon hopefully that'll be up by now and also you can find it at theweeklyplanet.bandcamp.com so hopefully i'll get those up before this comes out if not it will be up soon or never yeah or never we say a lot of things and we never follow through.

You can also download, there's ways to download it for free from Bandcamp. You can even just hit play and just listen to it. Just put your bloody phone next to you and watch the movie.

Play it. It's fine. But if you want to donate some money, that'd be great. Yeah, we'd appreciate that. That's fine. Thanks to everybody

who's been downloading the show. We've had a massive month, haven't we? We've had a bloody good month, haven't we? It's been, it was like 100,000 more than we got last month, over. So, I don't know, man.

Maybe we should get paid by somebody. How does that work? Do you know what I mean? That's never going to happen. That's not how this works. That's not how this works. We're at the new frontier where nobody gets paid ever. How do you like that?

Yeah, it's fun. But anyway, thanks to everybody for listening. Yeah, it's been great. And if you like the show, tell a friend. Tell 10 friends. Straight away, just immediately. As soon as you meet a new friend, it's a great icebreaker, I've been told. Just tell them about the Weekly Planet. Recommend a podcast they probably won't like.

Yeah. Speaking of, I mentioned this when you were in the bathroom. There's a Sands Pants Weekly Planet thing happening this week. Oh, there is still, yeah. If you Google that, No, iTunes it. It's all bloody there. I'm in some of those episodes because a lot of them I couldn't make it to. I think you're in three.

I'm in three. Yeah. So, yeah. Great. Go. I think it's five in a row. It's five in a row. It's a lot of us. Yeah.

Sorry. Yeah. Where can people find us, Mason? They can find us at Weekly Planet Pod on Gmail and Facebook and Twitter. Correct. I'm at Wikipedia Brown on Twitter. I'm at MrSundayMovies. If you have a theme that you don't want me to play,

send it through. Yes. Yeah. Dubstep. The more dubstep, the better. That's what I say. Or maybe something else like... Folk?

Yeah. Give us... You know what I would like to see? Some sort of letters-based theme that is big band swing. So if you happen to be in like a 12-piece big band swing band or something, get us- You're just trying to see how far you can push people, can't you? Yes.

Look, we've got 100,000 more listeners downloads this month. Whatever it was. Whatever it is. Whatever it is. Surely at least 12 of those are in a swing band. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. You're right. Bloody get it is. Yeah. Whatever it is. Surely at least 12 of those are in a swing band. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. You're right.

Bloody get out there. Yeah. All right, guys. Have your spaghettis. Grab that gem, everybody. Bye. Bye. Hello.

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