The Weekly Planet - 99 Superhero Showdown Returns!

Episode Date: August 31, 2015

The much requested Superhero Showdown episode makes a return where we pit your favourite comic/movie/tv characters against each other to determine who's slighty better! Also we get into news of the new Civil War line-up, Star Wars The Force Awakens, Assassins Creed and undoubtable something else to do with whatever this podcast is about. Thanks for listening! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of comicbookmovie.com where we talk movies and TV shows and comics. My name is Mr. Sunday with me as always my co-host Nick Mason. My name is also James. It's me here. I'm Nick Mason. Yes. On the podcast.

Should we do the news for the week let's do the news for the week great episode 99 yeah the big 99 the big 99 what are we gonna do next week we'll talk about it at the end or

now okay great do it at the end sure uh do you see that picture of Michael Fassbender as Assassin's Creed no I'll look it up right now look it up right now okay great can you

fill while I do this? Sure. Well, basically, while you're doing it. Sing a show tune. Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal. What, what, what?

I added that bit. I don't think that's from the traditional, the what bit. Oh, yeah, that's the remix. Great. Got it? Yeah, he looks good. Yep. He looks just like one of them.

Whichever one was in the first one. Well, actually, he's, I can't remember the name. Is he Enzo? No, he's none. Yep. He looks just like... Whichever one was in the first one. Well, actually, he's... I can't remember the name. Is he Enzo? No, he's none of them. He's his own one. He's his own one. Yeah, so he's going to be playing...

Brand new character. There you go. I think it's like 16th century Spaniard or something. Callum Lynch. Yeah. That's not very Spanish. It sounds like somebody I know. That might be the modern day...

Oh, I see. Yes. ...like version. And his fancy Spanish name is like like what's a spanish word paella paella lynch yes there you go um so yeah basically though this assassin's creed movie is going to be set in the assassin's creed universe okay great so it all it's all canon okay so do we know whether they're going to use the Animus? I believe so, yes. So the most unpopular element of the Assassin's Creed universe.

That's right. Great. The future. So, yeah, what do you think? I mean, it's a picture. Who knows? I mean, it could... Look, he looks very authentic.

I would look at that and go, yep, he's from an Assassin's Creed game, probably. Sure, absolutely. Is this the only example of a video game movie that exists within the continuity of the video games themselves and i know they have like animated movies like halo movies or whatever i don't know whether that's true that exist in you know that universe but is this the first live action example of that because i don't think the super mario brothers movie is set in the world of super mario brothers the games oh i see what you're saying. Is that what you're saying? Like, sort of. But I mean, like the Hitman movie.

Yeah. That's set on Earth. Yeah, but it's not set in the games. Like, it doesn't exist in the continuity of the games, I'm saying. I'm very confused by what you're saying, but all right. What I'm saying is that Ezio and whatever and all the other Assassin's Creed exist in the movie universe and the video game universe are the same universe. Right.

Okay. I see what you're saying. You're an idiot. No, you are. No, I get what you're saying. So he's going to make a lot of references to them. I assume so. Okay, right.

He's going to jump from a tower into a haystack. Oh, yeah. What else do they do? I don't know. It's mostly haystack jumping. I stopped playing those games because they're kind of boring. Well, I mean, once you've leapt off your tower in a haystack, the game's peaked.

What else are you going to do? What else are you going to do? Exactly. He looks good. He's got the dual... Double up. The double blade thingies. Do you think he'll have a gun?

Like one of them had a gun when he shouldn't have had a gun? I think he'll briefly might grab somebody's gun or something. Okay. Because that was really a game-breaking kind of situation when you got the gun in two or whatever it was yeah yeah and like what was it the renaissance yeah now davinci's like i'm the world's greatest inventor leonardo da vinci is a gun and the flying machine yeah did you finish that one no doesn't matter yeah did you hear i'm ready that there's rumors of a new blade movie that will focus on Blade's daughter?

Oh. Who's the current Blade? Bladella. Yeah. I was going to say Blade-ette, but yeah. Either of those. What do you think of that happening? Okay.

So is this set same continuity? As the other Blade movies? Yes. Well, it's said that Wesley Snipes has said that he's spoken to Marvel about reprising the role of Blade. So it's entirely possible. But that would mean that the MCU extends all the way back to like 97?

Did that come out? Or 98? I can't remember whatever that was. Is Blade a... Do they have the rights to Blade again? Yes, because they got it back when they got Daredevil and Punisher. Yeah, okay, cool. And Ghost Rider, which they'll never use. Yeah. Yeah.

What do you reckon? Do you think you can go with that version of Blade or do you reckon you should go with the Snipes version or just recast Blade? No, new version. I think Blade Owler. We want Blade Owler, I think. So you reckon if they brought back Snipes, people would be like, oh, no.

Or do you think people... Because people like those movies generally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I guess you could also bring him back and him not be the main focus. Yeah. And you wouldn't even have to acknowledge that those other Blade movies are set in the MCU, I guess. Yeah, I don't know.

I reckon a new character... Spill that bottle of water again like I did. So many times. I reckon a new version of the character, maybe Snipes, have him off in the background. Have him maybe, his powers are gone or something like that. Okay, sure, yeah. Or like, because otherwise, why isn't he in the fight? You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, good point. He could be like the Whistler. He could be like the Whistler. Like the Whistler. Those movies were okay, weren't they? I think so. It's tough to say at this point. You know what I mean?

And if we want to really find out definitively, we have to go back and watch them again I don't want to risk it that's our philosophy is also never go back correct it's written on probably a t-shirt

we have okay Mads Mikkelsen do you watch the season finale of Hannibal not yet I haven't watched any of it

I want to get through it you love that show right it's pretty good yeah I mean it's pretty intense I've heard the final episode's amazing

alright I'll get onto it get onto it i will all right good anyway he's gonna be a dr strange villain right yeah one of them i don't know who door mamu could be door mamu who else is there he can't be bloody um can't be mordo mordo because he's already cast well then that's all maybe shuma gorath yeah isn't he some kind of he's a tentacle monster no he can't who's the nightmare monster who lives in like a nightmare world and he gives you nightmares might be nightmare yeah might be his actual name i might be thinking of a different villain you're thinking of that weird grim reaper character from the nightmare video board game that's what you're thinking of that game game. That was something, wasn't it? That blew my mind, though, at the time.

I'm like, wow, that is, someone's really thought of a thing here. How do they know? What are you going to do? I had the child-friendly version, though. We've talked about this. I had the rap-rat video board games. Oh, yes. Oh, sure.

That takes me back to a previous episode where I made you listen to- So many memories. Anyway, great, right? Mads Mikkelsen. I like Mads. Apparently in the Star Wars Rogue One movie, he's not a villain either. Yeah, I can see that.

Yeah. Yeah. He could be like a rebel leader. He could be wacky comic relief. Yeah. He could have a Jar Jar Binks green screen thing on his head. Yeah. He's got skills.

Yeah, he's so many. A few movies I've wrapped filming, which you may or may not have heard. Let's go with a lot, but all right, yes. Sure. Suicide Squad. Oh, yeah, I've heard of it. Apocalypse has wrapped filming.

And Civil War has wrapped filming. They'll probably go back for reshoots. Oh, yeah. Maybe not Fantastic Four. Extensive reshoots. But reshoots nonetheless. Yeah, that's pretty good, right? Pretty good.

That was Civil War very quick. That must be coming along. They should release it now well i didn't see why they wouldn't yeah just release it now it's fine i'd be okay with that would you watch an unfinished version of civil war no i probably wouldn't absolutely would you watch an unfinished version of star wars no really no see i would because i am A purist. Not that, but I'm... Afraid of the law. Yes. But no, I'm fully expecting the new Star Wars to be a movie. Like, I mean, you know, I'm excited to see it,

but it's not going to be like the defining moment of my generation. It's just going to be a movie that I'm just going to see. Okay, yeah. And it's probably pretty good. So I don't want to stack the deck against it by watching an unfinished version where the special effects aren't done. Fair enough. And I'm like, oh yeah, I suppose it was fine.

Yeah, fair enough. If I was super, like if this was the thing that I was looking forward to most in the last 10 years, probably watch an unfinished version. Absolutely. Otherwise, nah.

Good on you. Good on you for having an opinion. Did you see the Star Wars teaser that they released? On Instagram? Yeah, I did, yeah. Very briefly. It was only like a snippet of new footage.

I think John Boyega's lightsabering it up. That's right, yeah. Yeah, that looks pretty sweet. Which is sort of the other side of that. The snow. The snow thing. Like, now we know it's sort of a cat and mouse duel between those two, I guess.

It could be. It looks kind of ethereal. It could just be the low quality of it. Ethereal? Etherealereal but yes I saw what you said I think you have methereal from

those Lord of the Rings movies which got worse but you know there's that dream sequence in the cave yes in Empire

do you reckon oh you think it's the same thing I'm saying it could be you're saying it's exactly you're saying that it's exactly the same thing yes that's right yeah it's just a trick

of the light but that is the same scene no I'm going to say it's a real I'm going to say it's real yeah yeah and it's yeah it's exactly the same thing. Yes, that's right. Yeah, it's just a trick of the light, but that is the same scene. No, I'm going to say it's a real... I'm going to say it's real. Yeah, yeah. And it's kind of a cat and mouse duel. I don't think he'll do well, though, because by the looks of things, he's not a Jedi in any way.

No, he's just like, oh, no. I reckon Luke Skywalker rescue. Yeah, absolutely. CGI flips? No. Please, no. I'm not ruling it out. I guess. Absolutely. Yeah. CGI flips? No. Good. Please no. I'm not ruling it out.

I'm saying please don't. Did you know in the Star Wars universe, Star Wars, by the way, we did Star Wars commentary track, didn't we? Yes, we did. I've probably put that up by now. No, I would have. Okay. It's for the first one, the original one, A New Hope.

You can find that on weeklyplanetpod.bandcamp.com. Oh, yeah. Or if you're a Patreon patreon.com slash MrSundayMovies that'll be there so if you're already a Patreon that'll be there

or if you become one for any amount of money you can also have that nice either of those things or listen to it for free oh yeah you go to Bandcamp

you can just play it as well whatever great what was I saying yeah in the original the idea of the lightsaber was that it was so like powerful

you needed like two hands to hold it that's right that was the idea that's something I was that it was so powerful you needed two hands to hold it. That's right. That was the idea. That's something I didn't say in the commentary that I wish I did. Well, it's too late now, isn't it? I can edit it. What if listeners would like to just hold onto this podcast on your iPod

and then wait until a lightsaber is drawn in Star Wars A New Hope while you are listening to our commentary and then just hit play? That's right. Reverse 15 seconds, hit play, and have James bloody spurt out that fact. Amazing fact. You know, lightsabers are very powerful. You're full of hate. Yeah.

Also, the new Star Wars film will debut on every IMAX screen in North America. Every single one. No choice in the matter. Apparently not. So that's pretty good, I guess. I reckon there'll be one theatre that's like, no, we're not doing it. We're going to play something about whales. Yeah, exactly.

3D whales. 3D whales in space. That's what we're playing. It's going to be edutaining. Boo. I've always wanted to go one of those space things though. Like actually go and see like a space IMAX thing. Why haven't you though?

Yeah. It seems like you don't really want to. You're right. If you really wanted to, you would have done it by now. Because if it was the Star Wars movie. What you're saying is you'd like to impress people, educate people by saying, well, you know, I'm thinking about seeing one of those educational movies about whales in space. That's Star Trek 4, Whales in Space?

Whales in Space is 4, yeah. Yeah, that's good stuff. Man, that's great. Last bit of news. Oh, yeah. Something that we got. Oh, yeah. The Civil War line-up.

Oh, yeah. Somebody sent through the images, which I then put in. Allegedly. Allegedly, well. We found them in the forest. That's right. Yeah, so what did you think of the light-up? I sat on those for,

I showed you like a week ago. I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do with these. Do I just sit on them? So I released them. Looks very, all those sheets look very impressive. Yeah, they do, eh?

Now, you notice like Spider-Man's not in there and Scarlet Witch. Scarlet Witch is also not in there, yeah. The person who sent them to me, allegedly. When you found them in the forest. The wood nymph who gave them to us in the forest. Made the point that the reason Scarlet Witch and Spider-Man isn't in it because the rights lie with Sony and Fox for those characters. So they can't use them in the promotional.

Because that's promo art. Stuff you slap on a lunchbox or a backpack or whatever. So that's promo art, stuff you slap on a lunchbox or a backpack or whatever. So that's what that is. Are they going to do Civil War Spider-Man action figures, do you think? Yeah, they'd have to. Yeah. They'd have to, wouldn't they?

I assume so. What I hope, though, is that they're not allowed to and then Fox and Sony are like, okay, we'll release merchandise separately, but it'll be a different scale. So you'll buy your Iron Man and your Captain America action figures and you'll be like,

oh yeah, play with these, whatever. And then, or put them in the background, the set or whatever. And then you buy the Spider-Man ones and they're like six inches tall. Wait a second, why is this guy taller than the Hulk? I don't understand.

That would be amazing. What do you think of the lineup though like people are saying that it's not the deck is stacked in tony stark's favor well he's got war machine he's got war machine vision oh yeah which is like there who was completely unstoppable in the previous film yeah yeah who else is he like he didn't even break a sweat i mean he couldn't break a sweat this is a robot that's right even if he could he probably wouldn't probably didn't even break a sweat. I mean, he couldn't break a sweat because he's a robot. That's right. Even if he could, he probably wouldn't have. Probably wouldn't even bother. Because he's real tough.

Yeah. Who else is there? And then Captain America's got... I mean, he's got... Who else has Tony Stark got? Tony Stark has got... He's got War Machine. Bloody...

He's got Agent. Oh, no. He's got Scarlett Johansson. Black Widow, yes. Yeah. I got it. Which is weird because you'd assume she would be on Captain America's team. Yeah, well, there's also rumours that someone's going to change sides.

So that rumour is Black Widow. Yeah, but do you think that's too obvious? Well, yeah, but that's why it's going to happen. Oh, okay. Well, if we hadn't gotten millions of... In a world where we don't get millions of spoilers prior to a movie coming out, that wouldn't be an obvious choice. if in this in a world where we don't get millions of spoilers prior to a movie coming out that wouldn't be an obvious choice but since we have to go over all these things a million times before

a movie comes out yes it is the obvious yeah that's a good point it's also um black panther there we go yeah it was supposed to be neutral but i think he switches sides as well at some point or something double twist going on yeah and then captain america gets hawkeye. Ant-Man. Yeah, Ant-Man. Bucky, Falcon, Agent 13, who's Sharon Carter. Yeah. And I think he's got Scarlet Witch as well. Okay, right. So that kind of- That's a pretty-

When you consider Winter Soldier, that's a good- It's a good get. It's a good tame. Yeah. And for those who are wondering if there is a piece of artwork in which Ant-Man rides one of Hawkeye's arrows, let's just say... Wink. Eh?

I mean, I wouldn't know. You wouldn't know. Neither of us would know. Neither of us would know. Because we don't want to get slapped by Marvel. Hypothetically. But there is one that looks real good. You should have said that.

We're going to get a lot of emails. We're not the exclusive people. Other people probably have it. Other people who have no fear of being sued. So ask them about it. Ask the bloody schmo's nose. They'll know. Good stuff.

Let me think. I mean, Ant-Man can go giant, can't he? One would assume so. So that'd be pretty handy. But the vision could just phase through his head and pull out his brain. I mean, Ant-Man can go giant, can't he? One would assume so. So that'd be pretty handy. Yeah. But the Vision could just phase through his head and pull out his brain. The Vision ultimately could do that to anyone. Yeah, you're right.

It's a really good point. Yeah. So, I don't know. I think it... I like the idea also that, you know, that Tony Stark would have the more powerful team. I think it makes it more interesting. Yeah, totally, yeah. If you just stack everybody on Captain America's team, what's the point of anything?

Like... Exactly. Who bloody cares, mate? All right. Are we ready to do the thing that we're going to do this week? Oh, what are we going to do this week? We're going to do a versus episode. We're going to do a bloody versus.

The famous Weekly Planet Scissors versus episodes. We've done it two other times. Two other times. Heroes versus heroes. Then villains versus villains. Now the random grab bag. Whatever. Whatever we think of.

We got hundreds of these. Yes, we do. So I'm sorry. I obviously couldn't pick them all. So in this week, for anyone who hasn't listened to the previous episodes, listeners have sent in people, two or individuals or groups, you know, comic book, pop culture characters they want us to fight. Yep.

We will determine who is the winner. That's right. And the rules are, the rules are, what happens is the winner that's right uh and the rules are the rules are what happens is the two characters will appear in the weekly planet battle world which as we've established is a standard size american football field yeah and let's say so nobody gets an advantage let's say it's in wisconsin okay go packers whoo are you sure that's where they're from look i don't know anything about football, but once I saw the Super Bowl... Super Bowl.

Once I saw the Super Bowl, and like 30 seconds of it, and all the fans had big wedges of cheese on their head, and I think I'm on board. You're on board, absolutely. Okay, so they appear opposite ends of that, and then what they do is they determine that the other person's a threat,

and then they act accordingly as they would to subdue that opponent. That's right. So Deadpool, probably shoot to kill. Yep. Batman, aim to incapacitate. Unless he's movie version of Batman. Oh, then he probably, who knows, then he'd just blow him up or whatever. Yeah, exactly.

Leave him for, I don't know, poison him. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Or, you know, circumstances might change. Yep. So Wolverine might go non-lethal for a minute. Yep. And then he realizes Aunt May is more dangerous than he anticipated

and just chop her head off, right? Absolutely. Also, this is, look, our ruling is final. That's right. Don't, would you say don't email it and correct us? Or do. Yeah, it doesn't matter really, does it? Because we, I don't would you say don't email it and correct us because or do yeah it doesn't matter really does it because we i don't know we'll probably change up like look it depends on what day you ask us this as well absolutely and presumably like we're going to try and do all new ones this week but i'm

it's a fairly safe bet that one from one of the previous episodes will slip through the net and we'll give a different answer than we did last no doubt or the exact same answer but just phrased more poorly you know what i mean do you want me to kick it off yes all right okay okay so we've got two classic comic book characters okay i haven't got the name of the person this is from so i apologize most of them i actually do great doc brown versus willie wonka oh very good ah. I'll also... Have they got their gear? They have whatever standard gear they would have. Okay, so Doc Brown's got his time machine.

He's got the DeLorean. Willy Wonka's got a cane. Maybe he could hobble forward and do a forward... He's got a factory. He's got a factory. So he brings his factory with him. They can't bring sidekicks either, can they? So Doc Brown can't bring Marty and Willy Wonka can't bring dead children.

I would say he could contact Marty. I'd say comms are open if that's something they can do. But I would say you can't just be like, hey, because that's not a versus. That's two on one. That's a good point. I think Doc Brown's got this. I mean, he's had his blood replaced as well. Do you remember that?

So he's much fitter than initially. It depends on, because it's all also do we are we talking it's normally there it's at their prime at their prime yeah which i think is back to the future too yeah when dog gets his blood replaced and i mean in three he didn't even have a delorean no he didn't even well yeah yeah he didn't he had a steam train he had a train that's not not the same it's not very handy is it not at all but then he had a flying steam train which is so that's very handy look willie wonka's a weird lunatic he's definitely a lunatic see we don't know like maybe he has his blood replaced all the time with the blood of children that go to his factory you know what i mean yeah he's definitely done that to him more than once yeah yeah he's killed a lot of kids yeah Dead kids. Yeah. But look, I think Willy Wonka's full of tricks,

but I don't think he's got enough tricks, quite frankly. Like, he is a dangerous man, I feel. Yes. We've discussed before, like, he could be a former Nazi scientist. We were on a podcast. Yeah, Plumbing the Death Star. Plumbing the Death Star. You should check that one out where it's us.

We debate whether Willy Wonka is any good at his job and or a Nazi scientist. And you should listen to that. But I don't... He feels dangerous like the Joker, but it's kind of in a vague kind of way. Okay, sure. Like maybe he's got a knife in that cane,

but we never see it. Yeah. So we can't definitively say. Absolutely. Yeah. Look, he's got various kind of lethal foods sure yeah like he's got like a chewing gum that expands you he's got like a a lemonade that will make you float into a ceiling fan but the issue is can he trick doc brown into imbibing any of those i

say no because we've determined yeah you already know it's a threat yeah you're absolutely right yeah hmm i think doc brown's got this i think he'd just flatten him just run him over that willie wonka has anything on him i think he's got a car so that automatically so it really it doesn't matter whether it doesn't matter what supernatural powers willie wonka has and it doesn't matter what time travel technology has been built into the DeLorean. No. It's still a fast car. Yes. Made of steel.

Yeah. Willy Wonka can't leave the stadium. So he could just pin him against the wall and kill him. Like, that would be it. Do you think Willy Wonka is agile enough? Because we know he can do a roll. He could do one roll. He could do a sweet forward roll.

I haven't seen him run. I'm not saying he can't run. It's the knife in a cane situation. he may be able to run yeah i didn't see him i haven't seen him do it yeah his pants and everything although his jacket's all very whimsical but how quickly can you move in that weird dinner i'm gonna say faster than you can than you think yeah sure i'm faster than a car that's doing like a weird kind of burnout and kind of flatten you or whatever. Are you sure? Look, okay, I'm going to say Doc Brown.

Yeah. But can you put it past, right? Yeah. He's flooring it at, he's just, he isn't using the flux capacitor or anything like that. He's just hit 88 miles per hour. Yeah. He's flooring it at Willy Wonka.

Yeah. Willy Wonka does a sweet forward, like he turns to the side, he does a sweet forward roll. Yeah. And then Doc Brown's like, where is he? And then all of a sudden, Willy Wonka's in the passenger side and he just slits his throat with a knife cane. There's not enough evidence to say that could happen.

All right, fine. It's potentially, yes. Yeah. But also, Doc Brown could hit him at 88 miles per hour, time travel, and then hit him at the opposite side. Do you know what I mean? No, I see what you're saying.

Like, wherever he rolls to, you could just time travel to that point and hit him there. That's what I'm saying. All right, fine. I think we give it to Doc Brown. All right, good. Next one. Yes. Johnny Depp, Willy Wonka.

No, we're not doing that. This is from Cake Boss Ralph. He's definitely got a knife. He definitely does. He's got a knife and a greasy bandana all right this is from cake boss ralph love that guy um this is a three-way battle this is the only one that i think we've got today okay right see how this goes uh it's the battle between uh the batmen keaton clooney kilmer these are the the burton schumacher era Batman. Okay, right. Neither of them have a lot of movement.

And none of them have a lot of movement. Okay, so you recently did a video. I did. On the number of people Batman has killed in the movies. And there was some contention, but I... Should we talk about this? Yeah. Because I asked you about it.

Yes. There's one where Two-Face is firing a rocket at Val Kilmer Batman this is Batman and Robin forever yeah and he flips the Batmobiles wheels and he kind of scooted wheels Batman wheels and he scooches to the side and that rocket hits two henchmen yes and behind a car explode car slows and they're killed yeah and I racked that up to a Batman kill yeah now look if that was me are you in that car in the batmobile yes that's not our responsibility to save those henchmen no because that is not our ethos that is not where what we'll kill anyone we'll kill anybody also we're not trained batman are we no

we're not yeah we've got weeks left of that course that's right batman on the other hand look he knows he knows what that rocket will do yep he is a precision driver yes he is aware that there are two henchmen behind yes and he's a killer and he's yeah he's a remorseless killer in the movies because he is the same batman from the keaton but that's technically that's the same bruce wayne right technically so uh so this bat Batman yeah comic book Batman faced with that scenario knowing that the Rockets gonna shoot by and kill the two-hens behind him if he gets out of the way he's not gonna get the Batmobile out of the way no he's gonna eject yeah he's probably gonna swerve the Batmobile into the path of the rocker destroying the Batmobile knowing he's probably

got it another one you know ready to go on the way on the way yeah and so i'm i'm gonna say that's 100 on him those two deaths again only because it's batman yep but then again like i think it depends on how you interpret batman and how you interpret that particular batman so if someone says that's on two-face which it also is sure that yeah you're also right it doesn't matter so so what i'm saying is you produced this video yes of the three batmen yeah how who was the most lethal do you think keaton definitely keaton was also the most intentionally lethal though kilmer batman spends the whole batman forever movie telling dick grayson played by chris o'donnell, a 45-year-old man, not to kill Two-Face because it won't make him feel better.

And then at the end, Batman kills Two-Face in front of him. By flinging a whole bunch of coins up in the air as Two-Face is flinging his own coin. Two-Face gets confused, leaps for all the coins off a precipice. Yeah. Which again, some people said wasn't Batman's intention to kill him, which may not have been, but he could have caught him if he wanted to. Oh, definitely, yeah. He's got a grappling gun.

Or he could have even said, hey, Two-Face, I've got your coin here. Yeah. Like, I switched them out. This is your coin. Yeah. And then sort of drawn Two-Face away from the deadly precipice. Drawn both of his two faces away. Precisely.

Yeah, exactly. So, look, in terms of lethality, if it's Keaton... Yeah, Clooney doesn't kill anyone. Oh, well, then he's first to go. So, basically, look, Keaton pulls out the knife in the cane and just slits his throat. So Clooney's out. So it's just a brutal battle to the death.

It's two again. It's a brutal battle to the death between Keaton and Kilmer. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Look, I think... Do they get Batmobiles? No.

I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no. Yeah. Because I think... No. They've both got Batmobiles. What's... They're just crashing into each other.

Yeah. What's the... All right. So they're out. They're out. Look, they're both armored. They've both got gadgets. Yep.

I feel like Kilmer is probably stronger. I feel like he's fitter. Yeah, that's probably true. Like, you see them in their kind of regular clothes or even shirtless. I think you see Kilmer shirtless. And Keaton's a bit... I know you do. I'd say that.

You see him shirtless. Keaton's kind of slouched. Yeah, exactly. And I'm fairly certain Keaton's shorter as well. Not that that necessarily means... But I feel like Keaton Batman- When you're wearing a lot of rubber, I think having a height advantage is important. Yeah, you're right. But I feel like Keaton's like a wild dog.

Sure. Like he's a genuine, unremorseless killer. Yeah. If you want to get nuts, he'll get nuts. He'll get nuts. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. killer yeah if you want to get nuts he'll get nuts you know what i mean yeah exactly he's he's quite well because again kilmer dodges out of the way yeah of that rocket yeah keaton drives into a

factory yes armis's car and then drops a series of bombs which blow up like he's in that you know he's there he's there he kills at least nine people there's nine that you see that he kills it's probably more but you can't count more because i didn't you don't that's right yeah exactly you're going easy on him there's there's probably just a whole bunch of people who work in that factory exactly there's a working working late because they got they didn't finish their job earlier on and they're like well i don't get paid to feed my kids if i don't if i don't keep cleaning these walls i'm just the janitor or whatever and then just talk it out loud yeah just talking out loud as you do in a comic book also keaton takes the batmobile swivels it and lights a man on fire yeah he does and it's again it's not a

case hang on i'm just gonna move a chair i come back yeah yeah and that in that's in batman returns yeah and it's not a case of keaton is escaping from a group of villains in the batmobile yeah and he hits the accelerator flame shoot out of the back and inadvertently gets a guy who leaps into the way like that's how they do it sort of probably modern day sure now but he like he literally turns the batmobile around to so the so the exhaust port is facing the bad guy and he flips a switch that is just the flamethrower switch. The car doesn't go anywhere. It just shoots fire out and it just immolates this guy,

this devil clown. That's it. And look, we don't see him die, but what kind of life is that even if he doesn't? Look, I don't know. I'm not necessarily sure how it would happen. Yeah. But I...

I'm going to say grappling hook gun through the face. Yeah. Just the mouth hole. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. You know what it is? You know what it would be? If you've seen the first Batman movie,

and I know we all have, it's that weird double grappling hook, right? You just put it in the air, right? And Kilmer would be like, what's that? Because I don't have that Cause I don't have that. I don't have that. And just one grappling hook would shoot into say, cause we're at a football field.

Yeah. One would shoot into like a goalpost, the goalpost, someone in the crowd, someone in the crowd, irrelevant. And then the other would shoot through Kilmer's face and he just slide between,

slide between the two cables, just back and forth. It's like a, just like a bat pinata. Absolutely. Yep, I agree with that. Keaton, winner. Keaton, definitely.

Great. This is from Adam. Ben Affleck, Matt Murdock versus Charlie Cox, Matt Murdock in court. Oh, very good. We can talk about the actual fight, but also, I never for a second thought that Ben Affleck was a real lawyer like not for a split second what do you think they both lose a lot of cases yeah i mean and i mean if the first hurdle we have to get over is why they are practicing law on a football field because as we've established it's the only way these battles.

But okay, let's say it's some sort of weird public show trial. Absolutely. Okay, so is it, how about we say it's... Let's say it's a lynching. I was going to say the defendant is Coolio, so let's not say it's a lynching. Okay, that's not a lynching. Okay, so yeah, okay, let's say Coolio is the defendant.

Yeah, by the way, that's in the director's cut of Daredevil, the movie. Ben Affleck defends Coolio. Yeah. I mean the actor, the character Coolio plays in that movie. Whose name is also Coolio. Also Coolio, yeah. His name in the movie is fictional Coolio. So he's on trial for whatever it is and Affleck is defending him

and we've got Charlie Cox as the prosecution. I think we can agree that Charlie Cox is the more inexperienced lawyer. Yes. Because he's fresh out of law school. And Affleck has been doing it for years, but has no business sense. Like, he might be a better lawyer, but he's getting paid in fish or whatever. He's getting paid in fish. Yeah.

Who's got the better Foggy Nelson? I think Affleck does. I agree. Yeah. Favreau is the better Foggy Nelson. Yeah. Who's got the better Foggy Nelson? I think Affleck does. I agree. Yeah. Favreau is the better Foggy Nelson. Yeah. I don't dislike the other guy. I see.

I'm not a massive fan because we talked about this, but he's good enough, but there's that one scene where he's like, you betrayed me, Matt Murdock, and we were friends. Yeah, see, that's the thing. He tried some acting and that was a mistake. I'm not saying he's a bad actor. I'm just saying that particular scene didn't work that's true for me personally

yeah um but look regardless so one of them has to be trying to prosecute fictional coolio which isn't see i would argue that charlie cox is pro he seems like a more competent lawyer despite being yeah fresh out of the gate. Yeah, I agree with that. But at the same time, he is prosecuting when he's a defense attorney. In this particular scenario we've invented. Oh, you're right. So he's probably not very good at it.

That's a good point. So I reckon mistrial. I mean, primarily because they're on a football field and not an actual court of law. Sure, absolutely. So it's a mistrial, but obviously both of them feel like there's injustice. So they've got to fight. They've got to fight. So everybody clears out.

The Foggy Nelsons go get a hot dog and maybe a slice. Oh, they get a slark. Yeah, absolutely. Get a New York slice. And we've got bloody Ben Affleck Batman, leather up, leather head to toe, versus Charlie Cox in his weird mesh suit.

Mesh suit, which is stab proof. Yeah. Or it's knife proof. So the classic daredevil knife in a cane routine won't work on him. So that's disappointing. It's the first one we can't resolve with a knife in a cane. Unless you go for the mouth. Yeah, okay.

Let's say it's out though. Yeah. You know, also in the Daredevil movie, it's said in one point that ben affleck has super strength they said that the chemicals give him super strength in addition which doesn't make any sense not at all no and as we know the charlie cox daredevil is just a guy yes yeah with sonar and good smell oh yeah yeah but i don't think that necessarily gives him the edge. I mean, I feel he can take a bigger pounding than... Ben Affleck.

Yes. Really? Yeah. Remember when Charlie Cox fought that ninja and lit him on fire? Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah, great. He got stabbed multiple times.

And he's also got a stab-proof suit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Wait. No, I'm saying he can take a punch better than Affleck. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Affleck gets severely injured, doesn't he? Yes.

At one point. I can't remember how. Because he turns up at the church and he's like, I'm pretty sore. Oh, yeah. But then he kicks out the kingpin's kneecaps or something towards the end. Yeah. Do you ever see Matt Murdock, Charlie Cox, Matt Murdock susceptible to sound the same way that Ben Affleck is? No, we never do.

I don't think. No. Look, I'm guessing. One season a world of fire. One season a world of wispy smoke hearing. I don't know what that is. No, look, I think you've hit on it there. Yeah.

They would both discover that each of them is sensitive is both blind and sensitive to sound but Charlie Cox would really I think Affleck is a lot faster probably. Yeah, sure. Like he's faster

and more agile. There's a lot more flips happening. He can leap a lot higher and land from a greater distance without shattering his legs. Yeah. Yeah. I reckon there's going to be

a lot of flipping about. Yep. I reckon there's going to be a lot of them both standing at different ends kicking the goalpost trying to get sound out of it. Yes, exactly. That's exactly what I was going to be a lot of flipping about. Yep. I reckon there's going to be a lot of them both standing at different ends, kicking the goalposts, trying to get sound out of it. Yes, exactly.

That's exactly what I was going to say. Like I've been tuning for. Yeah, okay, yeah. But again, because Affleck is so much more sensitive, I think he'd be like, no. He'd have to overact because he's from that universe. He is, you're absolutely right. He'd be like, no.

And then I think Charlie Cox would walk up and just wallop him. Yeah, absolutely. Just brutal, just brutal realism style. Again, it's a leather suit as well. So it would still hurt getting punched a lot. Yes. I'm going to give it to Charlie Cox.

Charlie Cox gets this one, yeah. And it's not just because the Ben Affleck Daredevil movie is terrible. We're setting that aside. It's partly because of that. No, it's partly because the rules they established about it are terrible. Okay, that's a better point. That movie is its own undoing. Ready for this one?

Yes. This is from Major. I don't know who. Major someone. Ninja Turtles. Probably Major Tom. Yes. He's back.

It's a sad song, man. It's a good song, though. Ninja Turtles from the 90s movies versus just one of the eight foot tall turtle monsters from the most recent

Ninja Turtle movie. Oh, very good. That's a good one. I like this one.tall turtle monsters from the most recent Ninja Turtle movie. Oh, very good. That's a good one. I like this one. So I assume that's the Ninja Turtles from the first Ninja Turtles movie because they're clearly the most skilled and most willing to use their weapons. That's true, actually.

Because in two, they don't use their weapons properly, but they just kind of hang on to them or grab salami. Beat somebody with a salami, sure, yeah. Three, they've got a time-travelling machine. I mean, lamp. But I don't know how travelling back to feudal Japan helps. I guess to escape. Yeah, no, you'd go back to feudal Wisconsin,

which isn't really... Oh, yeah, you're right. ...really relevant. No, no, no, because they're in New York. Oh, so they'd always go to Japan. Okay, right. Sorry, it's a time and space machine. I guess they could go back to feudal Japan.

Yeah. And then... Just live out their days. Live out their days. Have a great old time. Yeah. Which of the Ninja Turtles do you think they'd fight? It'd be Raphael, right?

He'd be the most willing. I was just thinking, yeah. As the monster one. There's a bit in that Ninja Turtles movie, the new one, where one of them throws a shipping container. That's right, yeah. But then again, they fought... No, they didn't fight Shredder very well, did they?

Not at all. They were bad at that. They were very bad at that. But let's say at their peak, they've just defeated Shredder. But they're pretty tired then. Yeah, okay, good point. They've defeated Shredder, they've had a nice rest. Okay, good.

Great. And they're still willing to use their weapons yes okay great i haven't renounced violence yet are they quick enough because i still feel like that big turtle is quicker yeah because they're bulletproof yeah like completely yeah and the ninja turtle the the most recent one they have the benefit of cgi so they can move faster than anyone that size could. Yes, you're right. Because they're not real and nobody cares enough to factor that in. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah.

So it's all the Ninja Turtles versus Raphael, the giant Raphael. Yeah. I still think it's Raphael. Yeah. I mean, there's no shipping container, obviously. Certainly not. I reckon he pulls down a goalpost, he skewers two of them straight up. Pulls down the other goalpost.

Skewers the other two. Wow, yeah. Yeah. Look, I'm not happy about it. No. Because I think the original movie is, I don't, you know, we've said before, I don't hate that new movie as much as a lot of people do. It's whatever.

But, yeah, I think with the power of CGI. Yeah. And remember that doesn't one of them, don't they just crash into a truck at one point and they're all fine? Yeah, that's a thing that happens. Yeah, Raphael in the first Ninja Turtles gets beaten by the Foot Clan and thrown through a roof. That's right, yeah. And he's out for days, like he's in a

coma, essentially. Yeah, these guys, yeah, no, they don't stand a chance. Yeah, I like them better. Yeah, me too. But, nah. Alright. Wait, can Vanilla Ice be involved? Yeah, he's moderating. Oh, sure. Freestyle moderating.

Oh, very good. That's his prime, right? That's his prime Vanilla Ice, Ninja Turtles 2. Yeah. This is Travis from Travis. From the band Travis? Yeah, that's right. 90s band Travis?

I mean, he didn't say that, but I presume so. Yeah, absolutely. Episode 3, Obi-Wan versus Episode 6, Luke Skywalker. Sorry, say the whole thing again. Episode 3, Obi-Wan, which is the oldest Ewan McGregor Obi-Wan. He's just killed Anakin Skywalker by cutting all his limbs off and throwing him into lava. He's off the back of that, so he's feeling pretty good. Yeah, you would be.

Yeah, versus Episode 6, Luke. Wait, VI is 6, Yeah. Versus episode six, Luke. Wait, VI is six, isn't it? Yes, it is. So we're clear. Luke Skywalker, which is the most prime Luke Skywalker we've seen. Okay. Yeah. So they're both very willing to kill?

Yeah. Even people they like? Yes. Well, they essentially try to kill the same person. That's true. They did, didn't they? Which they both didn't do because of their empathy. So maybe their empathy will be their undoing.

I don't think this would necessarily be to the death. I think they'd take off a limb. Well, that's... Well, both of them took off Vader's limbs. Yeah. Obi-Wan more. More limbs. And also real limbs.

Yes, and also real limbs. In a way. Yeah. Yeah. I think Obi-Wan is the better Jedi. Yeah, and I also... Can you... That's all gone.

I also think that... I think post-Return of the Jedi, I think Hamill is sort of... Not Hamill. Luke Skywalker. And Hamill. And Hamill. I don't know.

I get the sense he sort of would have renounced violence. Oh, okay. But I think bloody Obi-Wan Kenobi's got a taste for it now. Well, as we saw when we watched that, and you heard the other day, he was very quick to cut that guy's arm off in the bar. Yeah, no, you're right. So in between, he's maintained a level of rage.

Yeah. I don't know whether it's rage. I think between, he's maintained a level of rage. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know whether it's rage. I think it's... He doesn't muck around. I don't think it's rage. It's just like, I just got to cut the crap. We've got things to do.

Right, right, right. Like, I think he's very efficient in that way. He's like, I tried to be nice. Your arm's off. Yeah, exactly. Like, I think that's... And we never really see any evidence of Luke Skywalker doing that kind of thing. No, no.

So he's really, he just wants to get, you know, he wants to deal with the Empire and then he's kind of done. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Obi-Wan. Yeah. Obi-Wan's got this. Definitely. I feel like as well, Obi-Wan would have had better training.

Oh, yeah. Luke is- By that you mean any training at all. Hey, you lift an X-Wing and then go into a cave. You're trained. Get out of here. Now go fight the bloody Darth Vader. Fight the Empire's fine.

Yeah, absolutely. And just like, can you imagine Luke fighting Anakin on that lava planet? One second. Yeah, exactly. Like, yeah, like he could barely hold his own against old Darth Vader. He couldn't really. Well, in Return of the Jedi, he kind of could. But yeah, you're right.

I don't think he'd stand a chance against young Anakin. What a young Anakin. Little Anakin, he could. Oh, yeah. I reckon he could probably beat, Luke could probably beat Episode 2 Anakin. Whiny, angry Anakin. Oh, definitely, yeah. Because at that point, he's a big baddie.

Yeah, because Luke Skywalker's got more discipline at that point, I feel. Yeah, exactly. And that's the other thing. I feel like Obi-Wan has more discipline than Luke as well. Yeah. baddie. Yeah, because Luke Skywalker's got more discipline at that point, I feel. Yeah, exactly. And that's the other thing. I feel like Obi-Wan has more discipline than Luke as well. Yeah. All right. Oh, here's one.

Yeah. Eren Holland, T-1000 from T2 versus T-1000 from T5. Can they mush together to make a big T-1000? Probably, and then take over the world. I think we see the second one last longer. Not last longer. He doesn't last as long, but he can do more stuff. He can do more stuff.

He can make a javelin. But what good is that? Against another liquid metal. That's what I'm saying. Look, ultimately, I think this would end in a draw because they could never really kill one another. But I think the one from T5 is probably under a lot more pressure from its parents. Okay, sure.

I just got that sense. I don't know why. But anyway. the one from T5 is probably under a lot more pressure from its parents which is you know I just got that sense I don't know why but anyway back to a real one back to a real one okay this one will be interesting

this is an actual proper comic book sorry to ruin it sorry to ruin my dumb time alright no I just meant in general I feel like we haven't touched on this

the Flash versus the Hulk the Flash in his prime is like is crazy like I don't think we should. The Flash in his prime is like, is crazy. Like, I don't think we should pick the Flash in his prime because he's like, he can literally do anything. Well, he can do, yeah, he can travel through time, dimensions.

I mean, look, I would say that the Flash is first. But that's the thing, he's probably, I'm going to say we should probably rule out time travelling in this. Unless you've got a car. Unless you've got a car. I don't think there's anyone else here with a car that time travel okay well that's good that's really look i i would say that uh the flash in his prime yeah could like he he had the ability to like he could phase through an object yep and then object would he could make it explode like he could agitate the molecules of it to make it explode sweet but I would say, in terms of how writers would write this battle,

I would say that the Hulk is too dense for that to work on. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Yeah, absolutely. So I guess we're just picking just a strong version of the Hulk, an angry version of the Hulk. Yes. The Hulk. The Hulk.

Not like Devil Hulk or whatever. No, just standard issue, the Hulk. The madder he gets, the stronger he gets. Absolutely. Do you reckon the Hulk is fast enough to grab the Flash out of the Speed Force? I think what would happen is my guess. Because the Flash has fought really strong people before.

Generally speaking, it's a case of he, you know, super speeds at them. He hits them 10,000 times in a second. Nothing happens. And then the strong guy just grabs him. Okay. Like, because the flash would,

like if you, if the flash ran up to somebody, he's like, well, this, this guy's pretty tough, but I could take him. Yeah.

It's him 10,000 times. And then nothing happens. There's, there'd be a fraction of a second of doubt. Yeah. Like, what do I do now? And that's when the Hulk makes his move.

Yeah. Because the Hulk is a monster, but he's not the, he's not as dumb as you'd think he is. No. I've heard he's as the, actually has the intelligence of Bruce B monster, but he's not as dumb as you'd think he is. No. I've heard he actually has the intelligence of Bruce Banner, but he can't focus. Right. And he doesn't want to look like a nerd in front of the Avengers.

Absolutely. I don't know whether that's actually true. That might be one of the versions. Right, yeah. I don't think this is... Again, this is another one that would end in death. I think this would end in... Broken legs.

Lots of broken legs, yeah. Do you think the Flash could hurt the Hulk? No. I mean, let's say you go through the standard things that the Flash is going to do, right? 10,000 punches in a second or whatever. Maybe he ramps it up to 100,000 punches in a second. Sure.

Still going to do anything. Yeah. So the first Grant Morrison Justice League arc, Sure. Still going to do anything. Yeah. Ooh. So, your classic... So, the first Grant Morrison Justice League arc... Yeah. Where it's the Justice League versus the HyperClan. Yeah. At one point, the Flash goes around the world so fast...

Yeah. ...that his mass increases towards infinity. Yeah. And then he punches a guy who has Superman's powers... Yeah....and knocks him into orbit. Yes. So, that's pretty good. Yeah. And then he punches a guy who has Superman's powers. Yeah. And knocks him into orbit. Yes. So that's pretty good.

My question is, can he do that on a football field? Oh. Can they leave the football field? I said they couldn't. Yeah. He also catches a vase in that. Oh, he does catch a vase. It's not a vase-catching competition, though, is it?

No, it's really not. Hulk can be... I mean, Hulk's more delicate than you'd think. He'd probably catch a vase. Yeah, if he had to. Could he do that? I feel we're betraying the whole concept of the battle world, if he can run around the whole world.

Sure, fair enough. I reckon in attempting to achieve near the speed of light on a football field, he would just bury himself in the ground. Sure. Well, it's dirt, isn't it? Yeah. But he can also run on a beam of light. Yes.

So I guess he could run on grass and dirt without burying himself. Yeah. I presume. It's hard when their powers are dumb, isn't it? It really is, isn't it? Yeah. I think I'm going to have to give it to the Hulk. Okay.

I just feel like it would only take the Hulk to grab him. Yes. And the Flash gets grabbed a lot. Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? Yeah, so... You'd think being the fastest man alive. Yeah. Maybe you should also look into becoming the slipperiest man alive.

Sure. Yeah, that would be pretty handy. Yeah, I reckon if he can... Yeah, the thing for me, I think, would be, can he build up enough speed to approach infinite mass and hit the Hulk? If he can do that maybe okay yeah

well that's not a win then is it yeah like even then but I think all it would take would be for the Hulk

to grab him yep and I think that would be a definite and then give him a bit of Loki in the Avengers just bash him

into the ground multiple times the Flash is durable though isn't he he's not so much durable depends what he's doing if he's moving really fast he's got a heat shield going just bash him into the ground multiple times. The Flash is durable though, isn't he? He's not so much durable. Depends what he's doing.

If he's moving really fast, he's got a heat shield going. But if he is just standing about or being grabbed by the Hulk, for example, he's not really any more durable than a normal person, but he heals really quickly. Okay, sure. Right. I guess, no, that wouldn't really work. I guess if the Hulk grabbed him, he could vibrate all his molecules out. Okay, sure. Right. I guess... No, that wouldn't really work. What? I guess if the Hulk grabbed him,

he could vibrate all his molecules out. Yeah, sure. But, like we said, he's Hulk. Hulk's endurable. Okay, how about this? The Hulk is about to smash him into the ground. Yeah.

He vibrates all his molecules. He passes through the ground. Not through the Hulk, but through the ground. Okay, sure, yeah. Yeah, okay. That'd work. Yeah.

Boy, this is... Again, I'm on the fence because everybody's powers are so dumb in this. What about if the Flash had a can of cooking spray that he carved himself in so he was real slippery? Oh, yeah. Or just an oil slick.

Just an oil slick. Transporter style. I don't know. Again, I don't think the Flash, I think the, for the, like you said, for the Flash to stop the Hulk, he'd have to get up to infinite mass. Yep. For Hulk to stop the Flash, you'd just have to hit him once. Really?

Yeah, absolutely. That's true. And not even particularly hard. Just like a pretty good Hulk punch. Flash, you just have to hit him once. Yeah, absolutely. That's true. And not even particularly hard, just like a pretty good Hulk punch. Yeah, no, Hulk's got this one. Yeah. That's interesting, though. Yeah. I like to hear people's thoughts on that, actually.

Yeah, me too. And why. Or why not? Send a really long email. Or hundreds of tweets all put together. What about this one? This is from Alex. Man of Steel, Superman.

Yes. Versus Godzilla 2014. Versus all the buildings in the world yeah if it was a building knockdown competition i feel like i reckon godzilla takes it but then again superman's faster and if he was intentionally knocking down buildings like godzilla's quite slow moving i feel like superman could knock down every building in Metropolis in maybe a minute. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Anyway, that's not what we're talking about. Sure, okay.

A bar's catching competition. Who's catching a bar? No. So, football field. Yep. Let's make it a little bit bigger. Nope. Football field.

Rules are rules. Okay, fine. Yeah. Could Superman, that version of Superman, pierce the Godzilla skin or eye? Ooh. It might be a... Because we see missiles hit him, and it doesn't seem to really affect him.

It kind of bothers him. Yeah. This is Godzilla. But also Superman. Yeah. Missiles hit him, nothing happens. Well, actually, that plane bears down on him and hits him with like a Gatling gun.

And it seems to kind of, not hurt him, but it... Seems to annoy him. Seems to annoy him, yeah. It moves him slightly. Yeah, yeah. Not emotionally. No. Yeah.

Superman's obviously faster. I would even say that Superman, he would probably be at least equally strong. As Godzilla. Yeah. No, that's fair. Yeah. If you re-watch Man of Steel steel nothing really seems to bother him at all i mean emotionally it does emotionally he has a lot of losing his pet losing his his pet dog that

that no the dog was okay oh it was too losing his father to a hurricane yeah to a hurricane no i don't know because i feel in in man of steel, everything's just an inconvenience to him. Right. Even when he goes and stops the world engine, which is like hitting him with kryptonite, essentially. Yeah. Like a, you know, like a Kryptonian atmosphere. He's still able to destroy it.

Yeah. And that's the thing that hurts him the most. Yeah. Aside from Zod, I guess. Yeah. But when he's, even when he's fighting all the, you know, Zod's lieutenants. All the Zods. All the Zods. Yeah.'s fighting all the Zod's lieutenants. All the Zods. All the Zods.

Yeah. Zod and the Zodettes. When he's fighting all the lieutenants, again, they're just slapping each other about. It's really just inconvenience. Yeah, yeah. Like Superman will be thrown into a train station and all the trains will explode.

Or an IHOP. Yeah, or an IHOP, certainly. And nothing happens to him. He just gets up again. It's more a case of well i've i've gotta save some people two or three people and then at the end he's like who cares let's destroy metropolis but i but godzilla takes a lot of a you know a lot of pounding from those mutos and he goes down he does go down yeah you're right i feel this is might be a case of uh there's a lot

you know there's a lot of there's a lot of back and forth. Yeah. And then Superman maybe flies down the gullet. Yeah, sure. And then we see just a flash of light out of Godzilla's mouth and Godzilla goes down. Like we don't see him burst out of... What do we, though?

I reckon he would. Yeah, probably. I mean, it's a monster, so I think he'd... Exactly, it's a monster. I think non-human rules would apply to Superman. Oh, would it, though? I think so yeah, probably. I mean, it's a monster. So I think he... Exactly. It's a monster. I think non-human rules would apply to Superman. Oh, would it though? I think so. Definitely.

I think comic book Superman, we're not talking about him, but comic book Superman would be like, well, all life is precious. Yeah. Maybe this is somebody's puppy dog. Somebody's alien puppy dog. Yeah. And I don't want to do it because remember what happened with me and my puppy dog. Yeah.

But I think movies... My dad saved it. I think movie Man of steel yeah would be like okay this is a monster yep i'm gonna destroy it yeah i think you're right yeah okay okay so i think i think it's down either yeah either do you think his atomic breath would affect man of steel superman i don't think it would i think i think it would no it would affect him yeah but i don't think it would. I think it would. No, it would affect him, but I don't think it would put him down because nothing puts him down that we've seen. And that's atomic as well.

That's not even kryptonite-based or anything. Yeah, true. And he's impervious, as far as we're aware, to nuclear explosions. We haven't seen that, but I assume he is. Yeah, why not? I reckon it's either going to be heat vision. I reckon it'll be Godzilla, atomic breath.

Yep. And then Superman will be like, wow, that nearly singed some of those popcorn sellers over there on the sidelines. I better really ramp this up. And it's just heat vision, full bore, like him cutting through the buildings in Man of Steel and just cutting Godzilla in half

or he goes down the gullet and just heat visions out. In fact, I think that's probably the way. He'd probably be like, well, he's armed on the outside but not on the inside. Going in. Going in, yeah. Absolutely. That's pretty sweet.

Yeah. Superman. I would like to see that. Also, Godzilla could only pivot in the football field. Like he couldn't build up any speed or anything. Yeah. Those are the rules, man. That's the rules. What happens if you hit the outskirts of the football field like you couldn't build up that's true yeah yeah those are the rules man that's the rules we didn't know if you hit the outskirts of the football field i wonder

do we have a force field or something i guess you have to go back let's just say it's poor form okay so it's not like a rig out scenario like a sumo no it's more shame it's a shame based scenario you're like oh i could but no yeah you're right i Yeah. All right. This is from my brother. Which one? The one you don't like. Okay, great. Venom versus Scorpion, but not Scorpion from the Spider-Man universe, from Mortal Kombat Scorpion. Oh, versus Venom. Yeah. Eddie Brock Venom. Yeah, I assume so.

Okay. I'm assuming this is also, this is obviously undead Scorpion. Yeah. Take off his mask, his skeleton. Sure, yeah. Whatever. To the death. To the death. On a football field. On a football field. Is it? No, Venom is not. also this is obviously undead scorpion yeah take off his mask he's a skeleton sure yeah whatever to the death to the death on a football field on a football is it no venom is not venom's not susceptible to fire is he yeah he is oh he is yeah it's fire and fire and sound yeah okay yeah

he's afraid of fire oh yeah it's we all are all right whatever so will that damage his suit would that like take the suit off him? Yes, I would say so. Do you think he's quick enough to avoid that? But see, here's the thing. Yeah, I'd say yes. Yeah. Also, Scorpion's flame is fairly short range.

You're right. And he'd have to do a series of combos. Exactly. Well, we've seen it in movies. I think the latest one's him breathing fire out of his face. It's a standard move, maybe. Yeah, yeah. But back in the day... No, he could.

He could take his mask off and go... And, like, torture go at him. Yeah, but in the original, that was just his finishing move. That was his fatality. But he can still do it. Yeah, okay, yeah. So you're saying he could only do that to finish him off? No, I'm saying that's probably his last resort.

I mean, he's got to take the mask off. It's a scare tactic as well. He doesn't want to do it because he's embarrassed? He's embarrassed, exactly. The shame shame as we've talked about you gotta factor shame into these fights you're right i'm an idiot yeah i feel like also scorpion can only move on a two-dimensional plane that's true yeah we're factoring that in yeah a bit though then again model combat 4 he is a 3d okay we're at we're opposite of the football field what are they gonna what's what'sU.M. gonna do

Scorpion's definitely gone for the for the heart punch what else or is he gonna do the jump backwards the kick is he gonna do

the punch backwards but then it punches forwards you know what I mean can he do a slide kick or is that sub-zero that's sub-zero yeah what can Venom

what would Venom do tendrils tendrils or webbing one of those two yeah because I reckon they both want to they both want to get close in. Yeah. Because that's their remote.

They want to get close and just... Sure. Venom wants to eat somebody's face off. That's his plan. Yeah. But he doesn't have a face. Yeah. So...

I reckon... I'm going to say classic moves. It's going to be... I reckon maybe they both get in at once. Tendrils and harpoon. Okay, sure. And then draw each other together. Yeah.

Venom goes for the bite on the head. Yeah. Because that's what he would do. Yeah. The bite on the face. Thinking he's going to get in some sweet face flesh. Yeah, man. He just pulls the mask off.

Yeah. Scorpion. Skeleton breathes fire right in his face. I reckon then it's all over. Would that kill him? It would stop him long enough to kill him I reckon it would he'd breathe fire on him

yeah the symbiote would retreat yeah it's just Eddie Brock okay and then just Scorpion would tear his head off yeah

I think Scorpion's got this fair who's stronger? Venom yeah by like 10 tons yeah that's what I mean so don't you think

do you think he would go for the bite or do you think he'd just grab him and tear him in two? Because Venom has done that. He's like torn people in half, hasn't he? Yeah, that's true. Tough one. See, I feel your Venom classic move is bite somebody. Yeah, you're right.

You're right. It's his kind of... If he does it... It's on all these comic book covers. Yeah, exactly. No, I think he would go the bite. I yeah you're right you're right it's he's kind of if he doesn't it's on all these comic book covers yeah exactly yeah no i think he would go the bite i think he would assume that scorpion is like regular human strength yeah more or less yeah so i think he'd be like well why would i tear him limb from limb i can just bite his head off it'd be funny so yeah oh wait he's a skeleton yeah i reckon scorpion's got this of course he looks human from the outside he does yeah he just looks like a ninja yeah does that mean he's got like a rubber eye?

The mask part is where his eyes is rubber? Never thought about that. Maybe. Maybe. This is from Cody. The Baldwin brothers versus the Hemsworth brothers versus the Mario brothers. Now, the Mario brothers as represented by John Leguizamo

and Bob Hoskins, right? I guess we've got live action, sure. Yeah, we'd have to. Unless there are cartoon versions of the Baldwin brothers and the Hemsworth brothers. I don't think there is. I don't think there is. I feel like if it was the actual game version of Super Mario Brothers,

they would win that. Oh, definitely, yeah. Like, just flatten. Yeah. It'd just be a series of big jumps. Oh, yeah, sure, sure. And it would all be over. But that would be a bit like a big strong character in a movie

who isn't aware of his own strength. Yeah. Because the Murray brothers wouldn't want to kill anyone. No, but they would. They would. They'd be like, oh, no. What have we done? The shame.

We've killed the third Hemsworth. Yeah. Whichever one that is. I don't think the Baldwin brothers could beat up the Hemsworth brothers. Absolutely not. There's like footage, not footage, it's like pictures of Liam Hemsworth and Chris Hemsworth in like a bar fight. That's right, yeah.

It's like a picture of they're both like, and they're both enormous and fit. And there's three of them. Yeah. How many Baldwins is there? I don't know, eight? But it doesn't, I don't know. But I don't think, I don't think it matters.

I think they're,'re well in their prime though yeah Alec Baldwin in his prime yeah but Alec Baldwin's never running about on a red October he's never looked like

he's worked out no that's true none of them do he's always just rangy he's always more rangy yeah the Manoa brothers would have jump boots

but they don't have any particular skills that would be handy on a football field no so it's bloody bloody overcharging you for snaking your drain.

You know what I mean? I guess they could rig the sprinklers. Too much. No, too much time. They don't have enough time. You're right. Alec Baldwin's

is full of rage but I still don't think he has the... What is Baldwin at his prime? Is it 30 Rock Baldwin? No, it'd have to be younger. Young Baldwin.

I think he's I think I reckon he's definitely better now as a person to watch than he was then. But I still feel like his prime would be when he was younger. Yeah, it'd just be like a barroom brawl. And it would be the Hemsworth just killing everybody there. This is from Ben Deloy. One word.

Batman. Oh, yes. I've heard of him. Versus Crypto the Superdog. If Batman can potentially beat Superman, then I'm sure he could beat his dog. To death. Maybe not physically beat him.

Maybe. I don't know. See, here's the thing. Our scenario is you've got whatever equipment you have on you yeah standard Batman standard Batman issue he always has kryptonite on him

does he yeah always in a little lead line pouch oh yeah I always thought the kryptonite ring was in a vault somewhere no no

in Hush he has it on him he has it in his arm okay alright in his belt alright well if we're taking Hush's cannon yeah

and we are yeah alright do you think Krypto the super dog what he'd have to do he'd have to mush it into some sausage or something like that and then trick the dog in a way so he'd take a

hot dog from yeah yeah because he's already scanned the environment he knows what's available yeah no i think definitely and crypto would go because crypto wouldn't kill no he would he'd go for the arm probably yeah he's like a police dog Yeah. He'd do what a police dog would do. Yeah. But does crypto, when fighting a regular human, scale his strength down? Well, that's what I was going to ask you. Yeah. I think Superman would have trained him well enough to not just tear bank robber's arms off or whatever. You know what I mean?

I think so. Absolutely. But also, remember we talked about, months back we got an email saying, if a regular dog can kill a man, can crypto kill Superman? Right. And I guess he could. Like, it's possible. Yeah, I guess so, yeah.

But I still feel if Batman's got kryptonite, which he would. Yeah. Now, if you're being attacked by a dog, what you do is, don't you raise the forearm of your non-dominant arm? It takes your non-dominant arm, then you hit him with kryptonite. That's the rule, right? That's the rule. Okay, yeah. Absolutely.

Do you think Kryptonite would understand what's happening, or do you think he'd just kind of die? Does he have to die in this scenario? He doesn't have to die. Yeah. I mean, it depends on what version of kryptonite it is as well, because some version it kills you, some version it weakens you. Yeah. Yeah. I think once Batman had him down batman would stop hitting him

you'd hope so yeah i feel you agree with that yeah look i'm gonna say if bloody superman's done his job yeah and crypto has been trained correctly yeah batman's gonna beat him but if superman's been a bit lax yep or if crypto has rabies batman is finished absolutely because it's just gonna tear his tear him limb from limb yeah i guess it's a matter can crypto get to superman fast back to batman faster than he can get that ring out yeah mate that's yeah i don't i think but again i think it's a case of he'd go to bring batman down yeah and then batman have spare arm. Because if you've ever seen like a police dog bring down like somebody in one of those carpet suits. Yeah.

They're really fast. Yeah. They are. So factor in super speed. Yeah. Crypto's on him in a fraction of a second. Yeah. Then Batman's ring.

Yeah. Punch to the face. Punch to the face. In the sausage. Right in the sausage. Have some of that. Right in the dog sausage. Yeah.

Vivid Sounds writes, Donald Trump versus Mexico. Punch to the face. In the sausage. Right in the sausage. Have some of that. Right in the dog sausage. Yeah. Vivid Sounds writes, Donald Trump versus Mexico. Like, I guess the entire Mexican population. Is there enough room in a bloody football field? You stack them in, mate. Stack them high. Okay, right. So I guess they just topple onto him?

Yeah, he's dead. And I'm glad he's dead. Continue. Okay. Sam says, Christopher Reeves. Reeves. It's Reeve. As in plural. Oh says, Christopher Reeves. Reeves. It's Reeve. As in plural.

Oh, more. Reeves Superman, sorry. Okay, yeah. As in, that's his Superman. As in the ownership of. Oh, I get it. Good. Yeah. Versus Michael Shannon's General Zod.

I think Christopher Reeve Superman is stronger than Man of Steel Superman. Yeah, no, that's true. Because he doesn't, there's no rules of physics that apply to that Superman. Yeah, exactly. Like he could lift the earth and move it around if he wanted. You know what I watched the other day? I watched the Richard Donner cut of Superman 2. Yes.

And the ending of that is that he reverses time again. Twice. Wow. To what end? To undo, like, so Zod and that are back in the Phantom Zone. As opposed to just putting him in the Phantom Zone as opposed to just putting him in the Phantom Zone well he kills him

yeah I don't like I don't like this I don't like this weird time travel it's not a bad cut it's not a bad cut that ending

why not do that at every movie precisely yeah also I've got a question can I bring this up now yeah I'm putting together

a Superman kill count video yes I've spoken to you about this and I've got the dilemma of I cannot work out how many people he would be responsible for killing in Man of Steel. Oh, this is good for the listeners. That's what I'm saying. We've got some geniuses out there.

Now, Zack Snyder has said- Mathematicals. Mathematical. Zack Snyder has said- Probably got some murderers out there as well, so they can help out. Maybe the mathematical geniuses and the murderers could team up on this. Go on the Reddit and team up.

Bringing people together. Just go the Reddit and team up. Bringing people together. Just go on Reddit and be like, I'm a murderer requiring mathematical geniuses or vice versa. Then we'll find each other. All right. So Zack Snyder has said that Superman, about 5,000 people died in that city. Yeah. A minute. Exactly.

Which I don't believe. But I guess if that's what he said yeah then that's canon right right yeah and again if we're going with my the flash was there and kept saving yeah then maybe maybe there you go so how do you determine how many of those people are superman's fault yeah like i know the way i thought about it is you'd have to count how many times each of them hit a building and how hard they hit it and then divide that by the 5,000 that are killed. And then I thought maybe you could do it that way. And then you'd have to factor in how many buildings were destroyed by the government

using controlled demolitions. Because as we know, Superman's heat emission cannot melt steel beams. You know what I mean? I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah. So if someone could help me out on that that would be much appreciated we'd have to determine the population of metropolis in that movie yep like how many people are in each building yeah like you get some sort of whatever

the standard skyscraper is exactly but it's also a case of like if superman so so we see in the we see in man of steel and we see it in Batman v Superman. Yeah. We see Superman's heat vision just cut through a building. That's odd. That's odd? Yeah. And it goes through like three or four floors.

Yeah. Does that kill everybody in the building? Does the whole building collapse? Yeah. Was it just the people on those floors? Was it evacuated? Was it evacuated? Because there was nobody on that floor.

What day is it? Yeah. Because like if it's the weekend. That's a good question. If it's the weekend, That's a good question. If it's the weekend, then there might be, there's probably a, like if you go, maybe if you go to the Daily Planet offices in that movie, there's like a date on the newspaper. But then is that from that day? Well, then we've got to look at day, night crossing over and we go, oh, this is going

to be very complicated. Yeah. Which is why I don't want to do it. No, don't. Maybe you could just go with 5,000. Yeah. What were we talking about yeah i don't think he killed 5 000 yeah 5 000 people died yeah yeah anyway someone could help me out but if he's not like if he's barely in control of his powers which seems like he is i mean he is he is in control but like he's never had to face anyone who also has yeah super abilities so he's kind of like like, he's going over new ground here.

You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. I agree. Anyway, someone please help me. Otherwise I'll just probably be like, this cannot be counted. At least 5,000. At least 5,000. So yeah, Christopher Reeve versus Michael Shannon General Zod.

Christopher Reeve Superman is willing to kill Zod. And he'll smile and do it yeah that's true I feel like he doesn't have as much hang ups about killing Zod as the other

Henry Cavill does yeah yeah plus he's got that plastic ass shield does that only work in the Fortress of Solitude

though it's impossible to say isn't it yeah I mean he's never used it anywhere else that's true could he build a wall around him with his eyes like he did with the

great wall of yeah yeah what's up with zod would probably wear his armor though he wouldn't need it because he takes it off anyway so i don't necessarily think he'd need it yeah and his head's exposed so his head is zod's laser vision is also like fire. And Christopher Reeve's is like a laser. Yeah. And you kind of see Zod's will cut through something. Yeah. And Christopher Reeve will just kind of heat up like a bowl of soup. Yeah.

It still hurts you. A bowl of soup, a real hot bowl of soup, certainly. Do you think Christopher Reeve will do that classic Superman move where someone will shoot something at him and he'll block it with his hand and then deflect it back? You know how he seems to do that a lot in those movies? Yeah, do you think he could do that with fire vision? I do not believe he could do that. I think it would engulf his whole body.

Yeah. See, what we have to deal with here is two people using different levels of impossible physics in a world of real physics. So it's quite difficult. But I think you're right in that Reeve has no issue with killing Zod. Yeah. He doesn't even concern him at all.

Yeah. He knows what has to be done and he'll do it. Also, Reeve's weakness is humanity. Yeah. And Henry Cavill, not as much. Because remember there's that scene in Superman 2 where Zod and these henchmen, or not only Zodettes, are trying to kill all the people in Metropolis

and Christopher Reeve is like, the people, oh God! So I guess if Zod grabs some from the stand, I guess that could distract him for a second. But he said the people, not that person. Oh yeah, I guess so, yeah. He could probably use his X-ray vision on that person to see that person's hopes and dreams.

And if that person's kind of a dick, he'd just be like, eh. We're also neglecting to mention Christopher Reeves' power of a memory-wiping kiss. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Look, I think he's got the full package. He does. He's probably faster as well. Do you see how fast he went from here? Yeah, because he's got the full package. He does.

He's probably faster as well. Yeah, because he's flying around the world. He's flying around the Earth fast. Nah, it's Christopher Reeve. Yeah, because Christopher Reeve's Superman has 1970 Superman powers, which is everything. Yeah. So, look.

And again, you can't leave the football field, but I wouldn't rule out Christopher Reeve's Superman being able to, I don't know, pull the moon out of the sky and just drop it on Zod. Yeah, you're right. Like with telekinesis or whatever, because there's no way to say, he could use his Great Wall of China eyes. Exactly.

That sounds weirder than I anticipated, but all right. Absolutely. This is from Capray Beaver. Sam Witwicky versus Cade Jaeger. So that is the protagonist of the first three Transformers movies versus the all-American inventor of Transformers 4. Mark Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg, yeah.

Well, obviously Mark Wahlberg's fitter. Yes, but Spike Witwicky, he's a bloody, he's fast. Yeah, but did you see him fight Patrick Dempsey? Yeah, that was no good, was it? He barely contained that. Yeah, yeah. Okay, which of the two do you think is willing to kill the other one? Cade Yeager, definitely.

Yeah, true. Do Cade Yeager have his big Transformers gun? No. Okay. I think it's fists, just fists. Cade Yeager's got bigger biceps. Like how, yeah, I mean, Spike is all, he's just running. And he's scared.

He's running and he's scared, yeah. Yeah. He's got more snappy patter probably. Sure, but how much good is that going to do you? It's no good in a fight. Also, I feel like if Wahlberg, even Cade Yeager, sorry, even suspected that witwicky looked at his daughter he'd break his neck break his neck even if that thought flashed into his mind

yeah yeah he would lose it i feel that spike would be pretty good see he loses all his advantages in this in this in this scenario like oh you know what he might okay let's hypothetically speaking yeah right k jager runs at him. Yeah. It's not Spike, it's Sam. Oh, it is Sam, right. Yeah. That's a good point. Okay, Sam climbs up the goalpost. He's on the top and he's just sort of kicking down.

You feel he'd be good at kicking down at somebody, right? Yeah, he would. So if he gets a couple of good kicks in, I reckon... I feel like Yeager would just wait. Yeah, true. I don't think he'd even go after him. He's probably pretty good at throwing a football as well. He could probably hit him in the head with a football.

Yeah, that's true, yeah. And I'm assuming he could probably get a football from the crowd. Oh, easily. Can you go to the crowd? Yeah, no, I think he can. The standard football paraphernalia. Paraphernalia. Hot dogs, football, big foam fingers.

Those big hats with the big wedges of cheese on them. That's right. Depending on which team is playing so oh so this is before the game or is this halftime entertainment this i think it's halftime entertainment absolutely yeah great no i think kajang is this is a slight this is a slight change in like it's a it's a slightly alternate dimension okay where people are like hey let's have a fun game of football for the family and then blood sport in the middle and then back to football absolutely what about uh i don't know who this is from but i'm sorry i apologize aunt may versus alfred that's right yeah which alfred comic book comic book alfred so that's comic book aunt may then yes because michael Caine would kill that old woman.

Oh, yeah. What if it was Marissa Tomei though? We haven't seen her yet. That's true, yeah. Aunt May in some versions was like a spy? No, we're ruling that out. We're not doing any of that? Because Alfred was definitely in the military.

Correct. Yeah. Alfred can also, in his prime, in some versions, can go toe-to-toe with Bruce Wayne. Not for long. Sure, yeah. But he can. Like, he trains with him.

Like, he has done it. Until that moment where Batman realises he's Batman. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. How are they... Well, this wouldn't be to the death, one presumes. You'd hope not.

But, hmm, you never know. If it was... What's Aunt May going to do, though? She'd tell him a boring story about how she got engaged. death one presumes you'd hope not but you never know if it was what's aunt may gonna do though she'd tell him a boring story about how she got engaged it's a good point but they know the other one's dangerous yeah like we've established that so i'm assuming they're both senior citizens we're not making them young no yeah but they're both like the definitive older kind of versions of themselves now alfred definitely al. Alfred's got military training. And even if they're like, well, we'll set that aside.

Alfred would have, like he'd have a rag and he'd have like a bottle of that stuff he used to clean silverware. Yeah, sure. And he could definitely chloroform her. Oh, I thought you were going to say light on fire and hit her with it. Oh yeah, sure.

Both of those things. Both of those things. Look, I wouldn't rule out in a different scenario, like she could, Aunt may could make some some cookies that are laced with you know oh some some roofied cookies or whatever right but she doesn't have access to any of that unless someone in the crowd has it unlikely yeah very very unlikely yeah no it's alfred in this do you reckon any of them would they'd use their charm on each other because they're both kind of quick-witted and charming in that way. Yeah, okay.

I think that's the only way Aunt May is going to get out of this. Yeah, and they're both like practically indentured servants. In a way, certainly. Yeah, there'd be a lot of politeness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a lot of apologising. Would Alfred be willing to hit an old woman in the face? No.

Unless she attacked him with a knitting needle. And even then, I think it's the silver polish. Yeah. On fire. Yeah. Okay, good. All right. Yeah.

No, but it's... No, I think that's a stalemate. I don't think... Okay. Because neither of them would be willing to kill each other or hurt each other severely. Yeah, it'd be long, boring...

It'd be a long, boring... You know what it'd be? It'd be a long, boring story in the middle of the field and then our bloodthirsty crowd would rise up and eat them both, I feel. What about this one? Royston, second last one.

Gas Cloud Galactus versus Gas Cloud Parallax. I knew where that was going to go. I feel like Parallax does a lot of breathing in. Yeah, but not a lot of anything else, really. Yeah, but neither does Galactus. Yeah, but we never see what Galactus can do. Exactly. We're talking movie Galactus.

We're talking movie version. Movie Galacti. I don't know. Because you see the gas cloud, like he'll take the life force out of somebody. Yes. He does it to that big head dude. Hector Hammond, yes. Hector Hammond, yeah, whatever.

And he does it to, I don't know, he tries to do it to Green Lantern. Do you think he has the lung capacity to suck up Galactus? Maybe, but what is... What's going to happen? See, we don't even really see what Galactus is in Fantastic Four 2. Okay, so the Galactus in the movie is based on the Ultimate Universe Galactus. Okay. Which is like a cloud of probe robots kind of thing.

Sure. So I don't know if... Do you think he's that? Yeah, must be. What else is he otherwise? Just a big cloud. Just a big magic cloud. It's ridiculous.

Anyway, so it's a cloud of probes versus a big magic yellow cloud. And look, I don't know. I guess Parallax could be a power drain involved somehow. Yeah, I guess. I think it could. But again, like you said, we don't know what Galactus can do. So I guess we have to give it to Parallax because just because you can potentially do something,

we don't know because you didn't do it. Yeah. So it's like saying, look, I could have passed this test, but I didn't. Yeah. It's like, well, too bad. Like you didn't pass. Right, exactly.

Yeah. How do they stay in that football field? Do you think they're like squashed in? Yeah. What about regular Galactus versus regular Parallax? I don't know that much about regular Parallax. Okay, right. Break it down for me.

Nah, he's garbage. Okay. Nah, it's not necessarily true. Has he got physical form? From time to time. Can he be a big cloud? Yeah. Has he got a big head?

No. Usually, sometimes he's a big bug. So he'll take the powers out of you, right? And he's got fear on his side? Yeah, but in the comic books, he's not even like a power drain guy. He just sort of powers all the Sinestro Corp rings in the comic books he's not even like a power drain guy he just sort of powers all the Sinestro corp rings

so okay so he's a battery but if there's yeah but if if there's none of them there then they can't really help yeah

I reckon movie wise Parallax takes it yep but comic book wise I think Galactus has this yeah

because Galactus is he's like a core element of the universe while Parallax is just some guy. That's a good point. Yeah. And if they're yeah and I reckon

in the comic books Galactus has more of a power drain ability than Parallax does. Absolutely. If they're fighting on that Galactus has it. You're right.

You're absolutely right. And also didn't you say that Galactus can't be killed because then the universe will explode. Correct. I mean that's not an issue Parallax has to deal with.

I mean he'd realise that afterwards. Yeah, you're right. Exactly. Oh, no. The universe. Oh, no. That's where I live. Last one.

This is from Zachary. Ryan Reynolds' smile versus The Rock's muscles. Oh. Friendship's the winner there, I feel. I think so. Well, I guess The Rock's muscles could punch out Ryan Reynolds' smile. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Knock his bloody teeth out.

And where's your bloody smile, Reynolds? On the ground. Yeah. That's it. Yeah, man. I enjoyed that. Yeah, it was good fun. We'll definitely do this.

Definitive answers for all your dilemmas. Definitive answers forever. Yeah. If you want to, well, we'll do another one of these, but if you do have any thoughts on any of this, email us or whatever. Where can people email us? Oh, weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. That's right.

Some people don't know. We get asked that, so that's what it is. Yeah, man. That's where we're at. Yeah. Hmm. So we'll do one of these, I don't know, another 30 or so episodes. Sure, yeah.

Whenever we decide to do it. Or for our fabulous 100th episode. What would I do? All right. You know what it's time for now, then? What's it time for? It's time for our theme song For the segment

What we read And what we gonna read What we reading What we gonna read Today I'm doing the thing What are we reading Today

What have you been reading I've been watching Star Wars Rebels Season 1. I saw that on the TV when it came out. Yeah, you did see that. Yeah, man. That was on pause, though. That wasn't...

Oh, it wasn't. Okay, right. It wasn't totally still. It's pretty solid, man. A lot of it is obviously aimed at kids, but there's some darker elements to it, and the characters are quite interesting, and it feels probably more like Star Wars than the prequels do.

It's set just before A New Hope, about five years before. I think some of the elements of this will tie into the Star Wars Rogue One movie because they're kind of both set around the same time. Like how much of that, you know, remains to be seen. But no, it's good. Like it's kind of, it takes about four episodes to be kind of like, you know, kind of get into it, which isn't a ringing endorsement because I hate them when someone's like, oh, you're going to feel it.

I don't want to sit through. But, you know, they're short and they're, you know, so you can kind of breeze through. I breezed through about six or seven today, so just while I was doing other stuff. Cool, man. Yeah. What are you reading?

You know what I've been reading? Yeah. Oh, boy. Did you just go through puberty? Is that what happened there? What I've been reading, this is something that I, as a kid, there was a comic book series, Epic Comics, Marvel's Epic Comics, which was like their Marvel Max back in the day.

Yeah. They had a series called Wild Cards. Okay. And I didn't know this at the time, but before George R.R. Martin created Game of Thrones, he and a whole bunch of other comic book creators created a superhero universe called Wild Cards.R. Martin created Game of Thrones, he and a whole bunch of other comic book creators created a superhero universe called Wild Cards. Okay.

Because we talked about books, superhero books. I love books. Yeah, books, but like superhero novels. And we're like, do they work? Do they not work? I picked up the most recent Wild Cards book. It's like an anthology. Okay.

And I'm probably going to go back and read some of the older ones. Oh, wow, really? What kind of powers or universe we're talking well it's sort it's a universe where in the 1940s yes uh this virus was released into new york city a terrigen mist of sorts was an alien virus so you're close thank you and basically uh anyone who came into contact with the virus like 90 of% of people died. Great. They had the black queen. Yeah. They drew the black queen.

1% became aces. So they got like cool superpowers and 9%, the remaining 9% became jokers and they were horribly deformed kind of thing. And it's sort of this, it's sort of this kind of semi-realistic world where, you know, people, you know,

the, the cool aces have become, you know, celebrities and, you know, the jokers are in this sort of ghetto called Joker town, whether, you know, where they kindes have become, you know, celebrities. Yeah, yeah. You know, the jokers are in this sort of ghetto called Joker Town where they're kind of like a slum kind of thing. What's the difference in powers between all these kind of guys?

Well, they can have sort of equal levels of powers. It's just the jokers are horribly mutated. Oh, okay, right. But if you're an ace, you can also be a deuce, which is where, I know, where you can be like normal looking, but maybe your power is you can shoot fire out of your hands but it also you're not fireproof oh okay you know that kind of thing yeah so it's like an anthology stories there's like a couple of george rr martin stories

yeah and there's a couple of other writers they're kind of like they call them mosaic novels where like each per each different author writes a different story and they all sort of come together okay sure major storyline yeah great i'm gonna check this out from like the mid 90s or where each different author writes a different story and they all sort of come together. Okay, sure. It's a major storyline, yeah. Great. I'm going to check those out. So this is from like the mid-90s or before? Well, there's actually the one I read.

It started in 87, I think. Yeah. And it's sort of come up to now. Like it's moving in real time. Oh, wow. Does George R.R. Martin still write them? He's written a couple. Okay, great.

So I've read the most recent one, The Name of Witches Caves Me. Busted Flush, I think it's called. Sure. But anyway, I'm probably going to go back and get some me. Busted Flush, I think it's called. Sure. But anyway, I'm probably going to go back and get some more. Busted Flush because there's a deuce in there? Yeah. Martin, you idiot.

What are they called again? Wild Cards. Wild Cards. Great. Sounds good. So I read this comic book adaptation way back in the day. And I'm like, oh, yeah, there's more to this. And I think there was a Dynamite Comics comic book version as well like a few years ago

somebody check that out people also keep requesting that we do an episode on cancelled comic book universes let's do that I'm ready at some point I know you

you're bloody it's all up here isn't it it's all up here I bloody do it off the top of my head I'll do it right now bonus episode right now here we

no I'm not going to do it it's late alright go to what we read here from a listener oh yes hey Mick and Mason wait a second I'm interested to know

whether either of you has watched the new USA TV and Mason. Wait a second. I'm interested to know whether either of you has watched the new USA TV show, Mr. Robot. That's what I've got to get to. Apparently, that's going really well. I know the name sounds awful

and the US network doesn't exactly inspire confidence, but I'm nine episodes deep and it's incredible. Really. Cinematography, story, acting, and soundtrack

are all truly top notch. I'll offer you guys to at least watch the first episode and hear your thoughts. Cheers. Can I be the official Mr. Robot of the Weekly Planet Podcast? Thanks. Yes.

What's this about? I think it's about a hacker. Is it? It's real, obviously. They've filmed it. Yes, correct. It's not an animation. And I think I'm really not sure what it's about.

I've just seen clips of it. Yeah. But everybody's been saying it's really great. Okay. Yeah. So it's like on the USA Network. Are there robots in it? There's robots i don't understand mr robot he's like a hacker and he's a bit he's a bit on the spectrum i see you know what i mean someone's dropped a

deuce in his brain you know it hey something else that i watched recently i think the first two episodes it's on stars which is they did party down and stuff like that love it um patrick stewart is in a new tv series i watched that called blunt talk yeah yeah did you watch it what do you think i liked it a lot. Yeah, it was fun, right? Yeah, I watched two episodes of that. I especially enjoyed the bit where he interviewed himself. Yes, that's right.

That was incredibly amusing. It's kind of, yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, yeah. But it's about, you know, but it's about like a, I don't know, I guess, not quite, like a left-wing Bill O'Reilly kind of type. Yeah. He's like a talking, like a really outspoken TV talking head personality who's going through some sort of massive mental breakdown.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great. And he's really good in it, isn't he? Yeah, he's great. It's good to see him doing more stuff. Yeah, man. Now, we don't have a lettuce theme this week, do we? No, I couldn't.

Well, we might, but I couldn't find one on Twitter. So we might have a lettuce theme this week, mightn't we? No. But we don't have it. We don't. We might have it. Certainly. Look, theoretically, we might have one.ters theme this week, mightn't we? No. But we don't have it. We don't. We might have it. Certainly. Look, theoretically, we might have one.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. But if people do want to send a Letters theme. They can go to Weekly Planet Pod. No, wait, they can't. If you upload it to YouTube and send it to Mason, he might play it through his phone. Yep. That's pretty much how it works.

That is how it works. Yep. So, yeah. We've been getting some ones. We're getting ones a week, man. Yeah. So good. Look, last week a listener sent in what I're getting ones a week, man. Yeah. So good. Look, last week a listener sent in what I feel is the ultimate letters theme,

which was just a clip from Harry and the Hendersons with my name edited in several times, which I feel was probably the pinnacle of that. So I understand if all the other listeners are just sort of cowering in fear. And I feel as well you couldn't just take a different clip and put your name in it because that's just the same thing, isn't it? It's much the same thing. So you've got to kind of think outside the box.

Unless it was much more amusing than the last one. Look, hope springs eternal. It's not our responsibility, is it? That's right. No, not at all. It's not our problem. All right. Here we go.

This is from, G'day, mates. This is from Kerman. Ooh. Keman. He sounds Australian. He's not. G'day, mates. We've been deceived.

That was my best Australian, apparently. Just wanted to let you know i'm a big fan of the show and i look forward to every episode like a madman waiting alone in the dark for any episode of the podcast to drop as quick as possible all creepy fanboying aside i was wondering if you guys had to skip one upcoming comic book movie forever which one would it be and why greetings from brussels kerman a guy on the internet ke Kermen. There's no R. That's a big call. Should we say just 2016 or should we say just any that's upcoming?

Let's say 2016. Okay, so that would be Batman v Superman, Civil War, Doctor Strange, Apocalypse, Suicide Squad. And there's probably some other balls thing. Yeah, yeah. So if there's another balls thing that I've forgotten, I pick that. But's say out of those what would you pick and how about this we can't we can't watch it ever yeah and we can't read about it okay so you can't you can't how would i make my easter egg video then you that's it that's exactly it how many things you've missed we'll never know how many things you missed okay you can't read about it and you can't so you can't get the gist of it and then go into the next movie and whatever can you watch the next one and then go oh i understand yeah you can yeah okay great

all right so they don't just want a weird edit i'm gonna go with civil war why is that that's a big call that's a big call but i don't want to. But I don't want to miss out on Batman v Superman because that's something we've never seen. And I kind of want to see Suicide Squad just to unravel the mystery of the Joker and Harley Quinn and etc. We talked about this in previous weeks.

We talked about the theory that the Joker we see in the Jared Leto Joker may not be the original Joker. He may be Jason Todd. Yeah. And I shot that down because I was like, well, then it'd be Harley Quinn falling in love with Jared Leto, Jason Todd. But I've had a rethink. Oh.

I know. Because, again, because we see Harleen Quinzel prior to her turning into Harley Quinn. Yeah. Encountering the Jared Leto Joker. And I said, well, it doesn't make sense for her to fall in love with that Joker. Why not? If that's Jason Todd, she'd have to fall in love with the original Joker. But I didn't factor in the idea that maybe those two Jokers exist at the exact same time.

Okay. Like they may exist for several years. Yeah. So he might, Jared Leto might be the second Joker who is kidnapping Harleen Quinzel to take her to the first Joker. Oh, okay, right. So back in the mix, it might still be Jason Todd. Do you reckon it will be though? No.

Good. Yeah, I don't think so either. Interesting theory. I like the theory though. Yeah, because Civil War, I want to see that action. But you'd rather see Doctor Strange in Civil War? I think so, yeah. Yeah, I'd agree with that.

And in Civil War, think so yeah yeah I'd agree with that and in Civil War we can't like it has to end like we can't it's only got a few ways it could I'd be sad to miss out on the action

sure but at the same time it's either going to end with them saying oh we all made a mistake now we're friends again yeah or just everybody

going to their separate corners yeah and then we'll figure that out by context in the next movie. Sure. You know what I mean? Absolutely.

Interesting. And plus they have to re-team for Infinity War. Yeah, you're right. That's a good point. What about you? I'm going to say X-Men Apocalypse. Because it's dumb and in the 80s? No, look, I do want to see it,

but I haven't seen enough of it to get excited about it. Like, I would like to see Apocalypse. But you'll never know. What if he does a weird giant bending thing? What if he goes all giant and he's like, and he's shaking his fist, his big fist? Nah, even... Bruh?

Yeah, bruh. Nah, even then, I feel like I could... I don't want to miss it, but if I had to choose... There's been a lot of X-Men movies I mean there's been a lot of Marvel movies as well but I feel like I kind of get I get the gist

like we've had a you know I guess we've have we had the X-Men fight like a major X-Men villain before that's not Magneto no nah even then

I'm still going to say Apocalypse okay yeah okay fair enough interesting for both things both of us. Here we go. This is from Kavan.

Hello, dickheads. My name is Kavan, and I love the Borderlands game series. It's been announced that Lionsgate will be producing a Borderlands movie. Allegedly, this movie will have the same creative team as Iron Man. I thought this was fitting considering the topic last week, and was running what you thought of the news. P.S. Love the podcast.

Sorry, love the podcast. Keep being dickheads. P.S. Can I be the official badass of the podcast? Yes. Bear in mind that he called us dickheads. Yes.

Rules are rules. What do you think? What do you think of Kavan's question? Borderlands. You played those? Briefly. I've never played them.

It's a good universe. It's a nice universe. And there is one that is set... I can't remember the name of it, but there's like an expansion set that is set on like a moon. Is it a pre-sequel to that one? It might be, yeah. But it's set on a moon that's basically Australia, which amuses me a lot.

Is it like a Mad Max throwback? Yeah, sort of. Because it's all like a weird wasteland, isn't it? Oh, yeah, no, I see what you're saying, yeah. It's like a weird outer space mad max kind of situation yeah outer space western it's got a whole bunch of stuff thrown in there but yeah like apparently the development team a lot of them were australians yeah and they're like okay we're gonna gotta put in the the sample dialogue just get we'll just get people in the office to do it and then the big wigs were just like that's great just make everybody australian who

cares so that that yeah i haven't played that expansion but it looks really good yeah yeah i mean it looks like a good universe like it looks like uh do you think they're doing it because mad max made a lot of money no i don't think it goes in that direction really no okay well maybe they would make it go in that direction see that's when we talked about video game movies last week yeah it's it's difficult to be enthusiastic about any of them because they're all terrible. There's never been a good one. I think we said that at the end.

Yeah, thank you. Consensus reached. Yes. So maybe this will be the good one, but maybe they'll take out... Because it's set on a sort of different worlds and satellites and things like that. What if they're just like, hey, let's just make it on Earth

and there's sort of the future, but there's robots. You know what I mean? They'll just take some small future elements and they just put it back on Earth. Yeah. You know what I mean? That being said, creative team behind Iron Man. What does that mean?

Favreau? I don't think so. The rest of them. I don't know who they are robert downey jr this is just news to me i'm just going to be in it yeah great i guess i'm looking forward to that yeah it's not costing me any money so great let's do it last letter uh given that oh sorry dear prick and james that's that's a that's a burn on you that is you're right yeah given that fox seemed to be grooming channing tatum to become x-men's new hugh jackman do you think that the situation harkens back brackets like a dickhead to how

jeremy renault was intended to take over the mission impossible franchise more importantly do you think tatum has the potential to become a staple of the series uh their meat and potato oh yes very good but yes i would like to be a staple of the series. They're meat and potatum, if you will. Oh, yes. Very good. But, yes, I would like to be official anything in the podcast because I don't need to be validated by two guys I don't know on the internet. Sincerely, Aidan of Ireland.

All right. You can't be. Just so we're clear. But you don't need it, so it's fine. Yeah. Do you think – I think that's how they're gearing it. Yeah, totally. I think they're making –

But that – Will it work? Well, it didn't last. It didn't in Mission Impossible. No, that was Renner. I'm talking're making Channing. Yeah, totally. But that... Will it work? Well, it didn't last. It didn't in Mission Impossible. No, that was Renner. I'm talking, though, from Channing Tatum. Channing Tatum. It's going to have to.

It's going to have to, yeah. Because how many more has Hugh Jackman got left in him? He's bloody doing... He's doing Old Man Logan in this. He's doing Old Man Logan and then he's coming to Melbourne for Hugh Jackman. Oh, sing songs. Sings a bunch of songs. You want to go see that?

Yeah, kind of. Yeah. Hugh Jackman bloody is a real song and dance man. Sing a ding ding. Sing a ding ding with Hubert Jackman. Oh, let's go see it. Absolutely. It's in Rod Laver though.

That's a big one. Nah, fuck that. Oh yeah. I don't, I don't know. It's too big. I mean, it's not like it was going to be anything else. It's not like he was going to go to the Bennett's Lane Jazz Club down an alley or whatever. And then we're going to get to meet him afterwards or whatever.

It was always going to be 100,000 seats, whatever. Nah, bugger that. Not going. I like him. Unless 20th Century Fox has some free tickets that they don't. They definitely wouldn't. And if they did, why us? Exactly.

Why not some other dickheads? Why not the bloody weekly show tunes podcast we should do that sick of them sick to death of them i don't think they should hang the hat on one person no i think they've got if they're planning to do that i think they've got mcavoy they've got fast bender lawrence i think has one more jennifer lawrence i think she's out after this do you mean contractually or do you mean like actor wise

they're just like oh people are sick of her I'm sick of that Jennifer Lawrence nobody seems to be she's the America's sweetheart or whatever so I don't think

they should pin it on anyone did you see that video of her her and she was at a Billy Joel concert yes

with Amy Schumer and they were dancing on a piano. Oh yeah, they're doing a movie together as well. Do you know that? Yeah, great. I haven't seen that video. Was that the movie?

I don't think so. I think that's technically unrelated. Okay, good. Yeah, but I think he has the potential to do it. Yeah, but I mean, I don't know. It depends how he goes in the first one, I guess. I don't think Hugh Jackman's in Apocalypse, or if he's not in it much either.

Right, okay. Because it feels like... I mean, I guess they have to do that, because if you make everybody in the movie a star, you have to pay everybody, and you have to get everybody back every time. If you fully develop all the characters, people are going to want to see all the characters every time,

and so you have to pay all the actors. You can't just bump somebody when you don't. Yeah. But then again Marvel kind of do that not every movie has every Robert Downey Jr. in it

that's true yeah yeah I don't know it's very interesting I think you could definitely do it I like Tatum he's great me too

that's the show for this week Mason we did it again next week when we do the episode 100 of our show oh yeah people have been requesting a couple of things

I think I've narrowed it down okay an episode on cancelled comic book movies where we talk about comic book movies 100 of our show. Oh, yeah. People have been requesting a couple of things. I think I've narrowed it down. Okay. An episode on cancelled comic book movies where we talk about comic book movies that were never made. But we put a sweet

100th episode spin on it. We do it exactly like we know. Like we always do. Like it's not even a thing. Or we do the Star Wars prequels where we talk about the Star Wars prequels. Oh, okay.

Which we haven't talked about yet. Maybe we could put it on, maybe some, I was going to say we could put it on Reddit. Maybe somebody could put it on Reddit and vote on it and we will look at it. I do read the Reddit. There is somebody on there who has my name, but it's not me.

That's fine. So, but he's doing nice things, you know, so that's fine. What was I going to say? So yeah, but either way, we'll do both of those at some point. Oh, sure. Probably like in the next, at least in the next 10 episodes, if not before. Sure. So I don't think it really matters. We don't have a lot of ideas we have zero ideas zero ideas you know

because we're we're coming because we're out of the summer movie season we're gonna have to actually put some effort into these shows again right you have to think of topics and then do those topics maybe we should just take a break for the length of 100 episodes oh sure yeah that will give us 100 weeks then we can have 100 ideas then we can come back and that sounds really good because that's definitely what we do given a hundred week break has come up with 100 ideas and just sit on our asses for 100 weeks great so yeah if someone could put that on the reddit because we probably won't and then again maybe we'll just do something else so if someone else has a suggestion some people have recommended a clip show but i don don't know. I don't really want to edit something together.

If we're talking clip shows, probably definitely not for next week, but if people have some favorite moments from the show, because we don't remember any moments from the show. I mean, I certainly don't. Sure. If you have a fun moment from the show, pop down the Reddit, let us know what it is, the episode number time stamp when it starts and finishes yeah and we'll put together a thing and maybe over a series of months we can edit one together maybe we'll do something yeah so if we have to not do one for a particular week

we'll throw that one up yeah totally instead of if we take a week off or whatever yeah man if we take also it'd be nice to revisit some of those since i can never remember what happens on this show sure do you like clip shows though when a tv show is like these are your favorite sometimes okay especially maybe one week we'd be marooned on a desert island and we've just gotta just gotta go back and think about all the good time we get rescued but in the meantime remember that time we talked about spider-man if we do this yeah that's how we open the episode. Okay, great. Definitely. I'll put in some beach sound effects. It'll be fantastic. Great.

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I enjoyed it a lot I had a good time and we'll try and do the other Star Wars movies yes not the prequels yet yeah we'll see

look maybe we're gonna run out of good movies eventually yeah I guess so there's only like six good movies aren't there I'll also follow

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