The Weekly Planet - A Crap Black Panther Origin - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: February 13, 2018

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Correct. Maybe they're probably doing something else. Probably ironing. Stop what you're doing. Stop your ironing. Yeah. Leave that iron directly on the shirt. Flat. That'll get that crease right that's right just move away from it for 20 to 30 minutes yep and listen to this full attention please to this thing we vaguely watched

and watch watched it we did this was the fantastic so black panther's coming out soon very soon maybe it's out now i don know. So we watched an episode of the Fantastic Four cartoon from the 90s. Yeah. This episode is Prey of the Black Panther. Correct. I never watched this. I watched. I watched some of the Spider-Man one.

Yeah. I watched the X-Men one. I watched the Iron Man one. Some of it. Some of that. Some of that's okay. Maybe we didn't get it all here. No, I don't remember this one.

Some of that's okay. Maybe we didn't get it all here. No, I don't remember this one. I remember the Fantastic Four cartoon from like- The 60s. Where the torch was replaced by Herbie the Robot. Yeah, yeah. Now, I'd always heard that they replaced him with Herbie the Robot because they were afraid-

Because robots are sexy. Yeah, because robots are sexy. Yeah. And they were afraid that little kids would set themselves on fire. Yes. But apparently that's not true. It's just some sort of licensing deal with human torches or whatever. But also, if kids would be willing to set themselves on fire. But apparently that's not true. It's just some sort of licensing deal with human torches or whatever. But also if kids would be willing to set themselves on fire,

surely they'd also be willing to stretch themselves behind like a pickup truck or something. Yeah, just glue a whole lot of boulders to them. Exactly. Get the powers of the thing the way the thing got them by standing under an avalanche and seeing what's stuck. You know? Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, there's an episode with Black Pantherther in it yeah look here's the thing about this show i didn't i again i never

watched this show it's a show for kids yeah so you have to give it a certain amount of leeway and it's from the 90s and it's from the 90s so you have to give it even more leeway and also it's got a certain charm to it but also it crap. You waited until I had a mouthful of water to say that. Yeah, I always do. But look, it's... It's not that bad. Yeah, exactly. But I mean, it's not bad for a cartoon for kids.

Yeah, but it's crap. We're not kids. We're grown-ups. We're grown adult men who love to watch cartoons. So put it through that lens, if you ask me. Here's something that's good about it black panther is voiced by keith david who's that from the thing oh yeah okay stuff yeah okay i'm like i recognize that voice here's another good thing about it black panther has a little cape on he

does have a little cape on imagine chadwick boseman in the upcoming because you know sometimes they they with with the marvel movies they show you the trailer they'll give thor a little helmet and then then you watch the movie and they've cgi'd like they've cgi'd the stuff that they secretly took out of the trailer what if in black panther the movie he's got a little cape the whole time they cgi'd it out the trailers yeah they wanted surprises yeah right anyway so this episode starts the the fantastic four are hanging out in i assume for freedom's plaza or the baxter building or whatever it is in this in this Anyway, so this episode starts. The Fantastic Four are hanging out in, I assume, Four Freedoms Plaza or the Baxter Building or whatever it is in this continuity.

I don't know what it is. And Human Torch is sad about something. He's a real bummer in this episode, man. He's kind of a bummer, but he's got great hair. So I forgive him. He's a real bummer, I think, because he was dating Crystal of the Inhumans. Yeah, he does mention that.

You know, our favourite superhero team, the Inhumans. No. Okay, then good. It doesn't matter. Anyway, the whole thing's irrelevant. Anyway, they're trapped behind a force field. It's irrelevant. Anyway, they're hanging out in their house,

and then there's like a little proximity alert. You've got an intruder. Who else? Who is it but? Black Panther. Black Panther, yeah. Well, he's spooked because a giant red gorilla ran into his village. That's right.

Yeah. Okay. I missed the important backstory that he is spooked about the giant red gorilla. And so he takes off his bathrobe, revealing his little underpants. Brings up his Black Panther computer, which is 12 feet tall. It's got four buttons on it. And no screen.

Yep. Yeah. He reads the ticker tape, one assumes. It says he has to go to New York. It's Wakandan technology. It's more advanced than we could even possibly realize. That's very true. Yeah.

Anyway, he decides to go to New York and then he gets the drop on the thing. Yeah. So it must be them vibranium boots because- He kicks the shit out of him. Yeah. A few times. Yeah.

And then the rest of the four are woken up and they give chase. They get in the fantastic car and they realize that they're being lured. They're being lured. Yeah. Lured. Lured. To the land of Wakanda. What I enjoy about it is they're like, we're approaching Africa in the fantastic car.

And there's just on their little view screen there's just all of the continent of africa and it's just africa on it and then there's like a big red flashy four approaching africa this isn't an open top vehicle yeah they went halfway across the earth yep they got a lot of bugs in their teeth i'd imagine so there's a toilet on that. Who's serving drinks? The thing? Unlikely. Probably human torture if anything, but he's sad. I didn't even see him get on the ship. No, there was a little...

See, that's what I'm saying. There's some continuity issues. Okay, right. But I'm willing to forgive it because that is... Because it's crap. It has a certain charm, as I mentioned before, this garbage thing. What happens? Then they arrive at Wakanda and they're surprised to learn that it's not a rural African landscape,

but instead it's some sort of weird mechanical forest. Yeah, because it's the same like you see with the Black Panther film. The fake shield is pulled back. Yes, except in this case, instead of it being a very advanced hologram of some sort, it's just some weird metal flowers. Yeah, I don't know what's going on there. Some sort of metal, metal metal metal bloody some leaves and i'm expecting to see this amazing technological advanced city

but like the episode it's quite crap it's quite a crap place that you wouldn't want to live in no absolutely not it's unpleasant it's probably cold and mechanical yeah yeah so they have a bit of a bloody biffo don't they well. And he systematically takes them all down. He starts with the human torch, I think. Puts him in a little glass case. Yep. Doesn't like it. He sucks out all the oxygen.

He's very ineffective in this, the human torch in general. Yeah. Yeah. Who's next? Is it Ben Grimm? It is. No, it's the invisible woman. Right.

He gets within a- Sorry, I should have said, does it matter? It does not. It does not matter. Even though she can turn invisible, he can- He smells it. He invisible woman. Right. He gets within her... Sorry, I should have said, does it matter? It does not. It does not matter. Even though she can turn invisible, he can... He smells her. He smells her. Yep.

And here's her. Here's her breathing, I think. Yeah. And then he gets within her force field before she can seal it up. And then I assume slaps her about the face. Yeah. What does he do? I don't know.

Whatever. Probably. Yeah. He incapacitates her. Yeah. He lures her. That's right. Into a punch.

Then he stalks the thing Yep The mighty thing He He wakens him With water He waits till the thing Gets a little bit thirsty

Yeah And takes a drink From the fountain Well he doesn't drink He just puts it on his face He's like I'm not drinking this I'm not an idiot

And the Black Panther's like You are an idiot You are very much so Because that's We can do big time Yep Now I'm gonna He was some chops to the face Yeah But the thing He's still got a bit of idiot because that's what we can do big time. Yep. Now I'm going to hit you with some chops to the face. Yeah.

But the thing, he's still got a bit of strength to him. He puts up a bit of a fight, doesn't he? He doesn't go down immediately. The thing is one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel universe. And it's astounding that he didn't punch Black Panther's head right off with like one flick of the finger. Vibranium suit. That doesn't look like a vibranium suit. I don't think it is.

No. It looks like a cloth suit. It's a cloth suit and then underpants. That's what it is, alright? And then he says I've saved the most dangerous for last. Mr. Fantastic. It's the shortest fight. Yeah, that's true. He just cuffs him. That's it. Titanium cuffs is one weakness. Titanium cuffs? Not vibranium cuffs. Titanium cuffs. Wow. I'm glad you remembered that. That's alright. That's ridiculous. But then, twist of all

twists yeah the show has a certain charm as i mentioned uh it turns out the human torch bloody bloody but he comes to his rescue because in a in a usual suspect style twist mate i couldn't believe it we we see a little flashback there's time enough in this 22 minutes for a flashback which is pretty incredible that mr fantastic in, went back and he rescued the Human Torch, who then rescued Invisible Woman, who then rescued the thing. And then when Mr. Fantastic was captured, then they all come to his rescue. Yeah. Pretty good, right?

No, no. I mean, yeah. Yeah. It's okay. It's not a bad idea. I mean, he should have thought of that, didn't he? Yeah. Instead of stalking them individually.

But he doesn't want to kill the Fantastic Four. He's got his reasons. Yeah. Because Claw came once, Andy Serkis. Andy Serkis bloody rocked up with his beard and his little hat. His little accent. His little maniacal laugh. Yeah.

And so he demands vibranium so he can make his sonic weapons, which can basically make big red gorillas. That's just for starters. That's right. And he's killed Black Panther's father. Yeah. We just shot him with a gun. Yeah, it's not a red gorilla situation.

No, it really wasn't. It's not a red gorilla alert. Yeah, see, that's the thing. So here's the origin, because in the traditional Black Panther mythos. The pantheon of Black Panther stories. Very good. You're welcome! Wakanda's always been a technologically advanced nation yeah in this it isn't it's just a nation of sticks and hearts yes but after the death of black panther's father he sells some of the

vibranium in his kingdom he goes to school he goes to school he learns the most advanced science imaginable he trains himself and we see a bit of that and he literally puts his arm on like a plat like a little table and then it gets bound up and then he punches it free incredible yeah i remember the incredible techniques it's quite a moment yeah but anyway and then he he uses the his incredible super science skills to build this weird little this weird little mechanical forest playground, which he then uses to entrap the Fantastic Four. To get his skills up, to know if he was ready for claw.

Yeah. You know what you could have done? Shot him. Yes, correct. Saved a lot of time, in my opinion. What he's done here is he's spent millions or possibly billions of dollars to build a largely ineffective, very specific trap for the Fantastic Four that didn't work.

Guess what? Guess what? Claw's skill set is completely different to that of the Fantastic Four. You might say it's significantly less than the Fantastic Four. Yeah. You know what he's got? He's got a weird sonic arm.

Yeah, he does. That's all he's got. He's just a regular man with one metal arm. And it's funny because- You just wait until he goes to the toilet and cut his head off. Cluster bomb his little cave that he lives in or whatever. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you've got the money.

Yeah, build a robot. Build a robot. Build a robot gorilla. Build a robot gorilla. But it's funny that you mentioned Claw because then he rocks up at that exact moment. He's got his little sonic cannon. He's making gorillas and shit he's like behold my monsters and it's just like a couple of elephants or whatever yeah i want to see monsters elephant isn't a monster no it's an elephant i mean we know that yeah from history history has dictated yeah such no no that's what

they say the history's greatest monster is the elephant. The red elephant. The red elephant. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So Reed goes off to fight him with Black Panther. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Don't bring the rest of the team. Why would you?

No, why would you? Johnny's useless. I mean, that'd make it too easy. Yeah. Because again, he's just a man who's, I assume, not fireproof. I assume he's also not indestructible, telekinetic bubble proof yeah yeah right he's probably also not class 85 strength proof oh that's the thing he's class 85 specific lift up to 85 tons under optimal conditions yeah that's what it is do you think you as a

regular man could withstand a punch from a man who can lift 85 tons depends uh have i did i have a good breakfast you had a good breakfast and you've done CrossFit so you're quite worn out. No, my head would explode. Your head would explode. Now, if we can slightly change the elements of that,

you haven't had a good breakfast and you haven't been worn out from CrossFit, your head's still going to be punched off. Yeah, regardless. I just wanted to know the parameters. Okay, sure. Don't want to

run into anything anyway bloody black panther and mr fantastic go to fight claw yes reed richards knocks him into a sound portal makes him into his sound portal and he turns into comic book claw that's got the full costume yeah do you think that's going to happen in the upcoming black man i hope so please yeah probably not but maybe but maybe. But okay, what about this? Claw's got the upper hand. You think Claw's going to be the winner, right? And then Black Panther throws him into his weird sonic portal. He transforms into a giant red gorilla.

Worlds collide. Planet of the Apes, Andy Serkis, Claw. Oh my God. That'd be incredible, right? That would be incredible. It'd have a certain charm, wouldn't it? I would be very surprised if the makers of that film didn't see this and then quickly change their original ending for this for the film yeah yeah and and quickly change the start of their film so it's

two pictures of us and it says do not let these two men into the cinema they're terrible at what they do actually i lie it was the monsters he the monsters he makes, because then he comes back as comic book and then he makes the elephants or whatever. So I made some mistakes there. I apologize. And they absorb his sonic beams with vibranium and then he falls on some rocks and he shrinks away. Isn't it ironic that his one weakness

was what he wanted to get in the first place? Some vibranium. What was he going to do with it? You know what I mean? mean it's a really good question hopefully not make a bed out of it because that would have done him in wouldn't know he wanted you may not know this fun fact yeah i'm filled with you know you know i'm i am i am the official handbook of the marvel universe right well guess what what claw snores oh no and he just wanted to build a vibranium bed to absorb absorb the snores to absorb them claw snores. So his wife wouldn't leave him.

Exactly. Right, that makes sense, yeah. But now he's shrunk, can no longer satisfy his wife. She's going to leave him anyway. Yeah. The ultimate irony. Oh, man. Yeah.

They say size doesn't matter, but they're lying. It does when you're microscopic. Correct, yes. It definitely makes a difference. Anyway, he's like like i've avenged my my father and i've spent my literally my entire life building this weird mechanical forest i'm gonna fill of traps and this suit anyway i'm gonna take this off this suit off and i'm gonna live free in my underpants and my robe once again and they're like no no what you should do

is just become a superhero and really stress about it forever. And he's like, you've made a really good point. All right. Yeah. And then he's back into it. There's also a joke at the end. So after Claw gets beaten, Johnny Storm says, you can say one thing about that supervillain. He gives a big bang for the buck.

What the fuck does that mean? It's not a good joke. It's not a joke. None of his creations went bang. No. His sonic cannon doesn't really good joke. It's not a joke. None of his creations went bang. No. His sonic cannon doesn't really go bang. It doesn't go bang. I mean, bang is a sound, but at no point does anybody go bang.

He doesn't bang into non-existence. He's certainly not banging his wife after this, after the shrinking incident. So, yeah. Johnny Storm is way off his game in this story. He's poisy. And I get it. I mean, he's love-lorn.

I get it. He's depressed. Somebody should have pulled him up on it. Or maybe they felt bad. Just give him that. That being said- He didn't help at all. None of the other characters laughed when he made the joke.

I was half expecting one of them to be like, come on, mate. Are you okay? I'll buy you a drink. It's all right. There you go. That's the episode of Prey of the Black Panther from the Fantastic Four cartoon. I'm going to recommend you don't watch this one.

Yeah, fair enough. But you know, you can. Yeah. But don't. Yeah, don't though. This is the genuine. Look, if you're weighing it up, do you like things that have a certain charm?

Maybe watch it. Yeah. Do you dislike things that are crap? Maybe don't. at yeah how does that work yeah there are much better 90s marvel stuff than this maybe it's a great show in general seems unlikely though you know what don't watch this watch another one and let us know if it's good the remainder of the series is good absolutely if there's a punisher crossover or something i hope so let us know yeah man Yeah. Man, there was a whole cartoon universe, wasn't there, in the 90s?

Cartoon-iverse. Cartoon-iverse. Viewersque universe. That's right. I bet that Clerks cartoon, that was pretty good. It was good, wasn't it? It was good, yeah. Yeah.

It's cancelled though, isn't it? Yeah. They cancelled it like 20 years ago, didn't they? They sure did. Yeah, yeah, good. Anyway, thank you for watching this episode of Caravan of Garbage. It's here every Tuesday. You can just come back next week.

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