The Weekly Planet - Aliens VS Predator: Requiem - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: July 28, 2022

In our last Caravan Of Garbage until September we take a look at nobodies favorite Alien or Predator movie, or even Alien VS Predator movie, AVP Requiem. It's certainly not without it's moments (when you can see them) and brings into live action the idea of an Xenomorph/Yautja in the Predalien. Thanks for listening to our Caravan Of Garbage review, see you in a month!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/x-u8EWKloKwHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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You know, Mason, my initial thought when re-watching this movie for the first time since the year of our Lord 2007 was... Go on. This is called Aliens vs Predator Requiem? Yes. The first one's called Alien vs Predator. I mean, it makes sense that there would be multiple aliens. Sure. So they put the S on it.

Go on. There is one key predator. So this really adheres to what is happening in this not very good movie. I also had that thought, but here's the thing, James. I think I'm the only person on earth who likes this movie. I liked it when it came out. I liked it when it came out and I like it now. And to head you off, yes, it is very dark. It is difficult to see a lot of things in this movie. Oh, I'm going to talk about that, yes, it is very dark. It is difficult to see a lot of things in this movie. Oh, I'm going to talk about that. What I think is good about this movie is... Wait, wait, wait.

This is Caravan of Garbage. We talk about stuff, leave a like. Now go. What I like about this movie... Wait, wait, wait. Go on. Some people didn't leave a like. Oh, you know, actually, yeah, it's a good point, actually.

Sorry, continue. We'll be silent. No, no. Till everyone has liked it. And everybody on Earth has liked it. Look, what I liked about this movie is that it is the classic horror movie, like the suburban horror movie. It's like your Halloween.

It's like your nightmare on Elm Street. It's like your Friday the 13th. It's in a suburbia, and there are just the classic tropes. There's the nerds. There's the jocks. There's the stoner. There's a girl. There's that weird sheriff that everybody pushes around and he shouldn't be a sheriff at all. And there's

a guy who clearly came out of prison. They don't really say it, but he comes out of prison and he just meets up with a sheriff and he's like, let's go and do this. And the sheriff's like, oh, okay. And then he's like, let's get some guns. And the sheriff is like, oh, I guess so. And then they're like, let's get a helicopter. And he's like, oh,, I guess so. And then they're like, let's get a helicopter. And he's like, odd enough. That's a good idea. It was a good idea. It was a good idea, wasn't it?

Yeah. And what I loved about this, but instead of there being. Loved. Look, it's not a masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination. But I enjoyed it. I enjoy it more than the previous one, which I didn't really like because it's sort of set in just a weird nowheresville. I know it's supposed to be set in a mysterious ancient Aztec slash Mayan structure or whatever temple. But it's just nothing. It's just snow and nothing.

Just snow and grey walls. I like this because it was set in the present day and it's set in familiar surrounds and you just get to see the aliens just tear up everyone. Yeah, sort of. No one is safe. Sort of. They kill a kid in the first scene. Okay, that's one thing I will say for this. They just acid a man's arm off in the first scene.

And a man's face. You see all of this. I think, yeah, one thing this really does go for is they don't give a fuck who they kill in it. And you know what? With this cast of forgettable characters, you can really do that. You can just chew through them. They're not all forgettable. David

Hornsby, rickety cricket. I know, I know, I know. But like, you mentioned it. The boy gets face hugged right up top and then the alien explodes out. There's a pregnant woman who just explodes with aliens. There's a woman who just gets impaled into a wall for no reason.

That's one of the primary characters through this who's like the, you know, she's like the pretty girl who's dating the jock but she actually likes the regular guy or whatever. You're like, well, at the end they're going to survive and he's going to get a little kiss or whatever. Not, nail it or wall.

I think it's like too weird and sinister. Oh, I like how weird and sinister it was. And aggressive, you know? And that sounds crazy for like a movie titled like this, but it seems just kind of like just scattershot. Okay, right. And just kind of like, I don't know. I feel like that should work for me, but it just doesn't.

I guess it does break with the horror movie tradition in the sense that usually it's the awful people that die, and like by the end it's some people with some form of virtue of some kind. They're the ones that survive. But you're right in this the survivors at the end of this

are just random. It's the soldier lady and the prison guy. I don't know. Whatever. It's fine. And the little girl. One of the kids

but the other kid's dead. The other kid's so dead he's in bits. What I liked about this movie as well is that the predator in question you know we question you know we see you know it's a it's a direct sequel it's set immediately after the first one yeah and at

the end of the last one uh the the the predators who had been battling the aliens on earth they go back into their spaceship in orbit but one of them has been infected by uh by the aliens and and out from his chest bursts the the new pred alien kind of thing. And then the ship crashes and then chaos ensues. But then it goes like it zooms back to the alien planet and there's just this one predator and he's in this super high-tech throne chair situation and he sees it all in all these high-def images and all these graphics and all these details.

He's got cameras in space. Cameras in space and all this sort of stuff. But he's just the janitor. He is. Well, you know who he's supposed to be. He's got cameras in space. Cameras in space and all this sort of stuff. But he's just the janitor. He is. Yeah. Well, you know who he's supposed to be. He's the guy from Pulp Fiction. He's Harvey Keitel in Pulp Fiction.

He's called Wolf. He's Winston Wolf. Yeah. A couple of things that I do like there, though. I like also that he's a combination of the janitor. But he also, a lot of the time, he just felt like one of the other Predator's dads. Just like, oh, what's he done this time?

Oh, here we go. He's got to get in the van and just drive and pick up his kids. From a music festival or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I took too much acid. I'm lost in a field. Oh, God. Okay.

Okay. A couple of things. Yes. First of all, that Predator ship must have just been doing laps of the earth while that Predalien fully just grew into a massive alien like almost immediately the other thing there should be a big yellow sign that says hey if you pick up a dead predator from an alien hunt maybe check for a hand inside the dead predator how are they going to do that with some sort of scanning device that they wear on their face that can scan through all sorts of different frequencies of light and radiation.

Oh, yeah, they have that. Second sign. Go on. Don't shoot in the ship. I just feel like, no, that really speaks to me. No guns in the ship. Bedroom door always open. I just feel like.

Or dead. It does not speak to. Go smoking in the house. Make you smoke the whole pack. It does speak to like the wider Predator universe where they're just a pack of morons. And even the wolf guy is. Because like he must have come across a predalien before. Or at least know of their existence.

Because he just feels woefully unprepared for his goal which might be get or eliminate all the predator tech which is strange because he's really bad at that because he just leaves a bunch of shit scattered everywhere yeah he's just a trail of destruction what i also he's a lunatic what i also loved about this guy is that he's brought with him like this this v of blue, seemingly inexhaustible blue liquid, and you pour it on maybe some evidence like an alien and it dissolves away because he's trying to remove, I guess, all predator and alien influence from Earth.

But then the moment he lands on Earth, he sees a guy and he's like, here I go killing again. Better is Chrombopolis Michael. But he's just like, I can't resist. I've got to kill and skin this guy. Old habits, you know? Yeah. And the other thing is, like,

if that nuclear weapon didn't go off at the end, oh, yeah, that's how this movie ends, by the way. They just fucking nuke a town. The government does. The government does, yeah. They would have just found two enormous aliens just both impaled on each other, just dead on

a roof with all this tech just scattered around. So I feel like whatever his job was supposed to be, he's not doing it. Absolutely not. He's out of his mind, that guy. He's furious, that's the point. You bloody kids!

You bloody kids, I'll give you something to bloody have a bloody alien hunt about, I tell you that much. You bloody kids. I did love also, we do see the Predator homeworld. And it's got that kind of the same question that I asked when we watched Constantine in UC Heaven, because there's a bunch of skyscrapers in the background. And I'm just like, what's going on in there? And I imagine like, I don't know, is it a call centre and there's a bunch of skyscrapers in the background. And I'm just like, what's going on in there?

And I imagine like, I don't know, is it a call centre and there's a predator in there, like a polo shirt and like suit pants made of fishnets. And he's just like, he's got a headset on and he's just trying to sell timeshare or whatever. Like, what is it? What do they do? Because I feel like these are the, you know,

these are your rednecks. These are your big game hunters. What's everybody else doing? What are they doing? Because I feel like these are the, you know, these are your rednecks. These are your big game hunters. It's true. What's everybody else doing? What are they doing? That's true. Are they ready vegans? Have you considered upgrading your shoulder-mounted plasma cannon?

Because we could give you a brand new one for easy payments, $49.05. We can send it right out to you. I can't hear the noise. What's the noise? I need to talk about this, I guess, the directors of this. James, we don't need to talk about anything. No, that's true. But they're brothers, aren't they?

Well, yeah. So Paul W.S. Anderson, he was initially going to come back, but then he moved on to do Death Race, which is a movie I quite like. There you go. That's your Alien vs. Predator Requiem. It certainly is. So, yeah, the brothers Strauss, who have a background in visual effects, came on board for this, and I'll talk about what they've done since.

But you know also, you know what annoys me about this movie, I think, Mason, more than anything? Go on. This is an impossible movie to find a good thumbnail for, for two reasons, right? It's very dark. Exactly. It's very dark, which means anything that you screenshot, you have to artificially brighten, and it looks horrible.

So I've got that option. Or do I just put one of the faces of the several unknown actors that are in this? Do I put Cricket? Do I put the woman who was in 24? You know, it's an impossible situation that I'm in. You could just put us together sharing some high fives. How about that?

High fives and thumbs as options. Yeah, I guess i could do that yeah it's something that i think though this does do well when you when you do see it the design of all of this looks great there's a lot of like practical puppetry in the predator suit is is terrific as the predator the the the actual predator face looks way better than the previous movie yeah i agree i agree with that yeah i completely i think the design of him in general looks they're way too bulky in the previous one this guy you know it goes back to that original predator thing of like lithe and quick and you know and lean and mean here's the thing though and as you mentioned yeah a lot of this you can't see

and it was a deliberate choice to shoot a lot of this in the dark with handheld cameras to distinguish it from the previous film and look it certainly looks different than the previous film but they've also defended like like the use of this kind of darkness because it masks the special effects you know they seem more realistic as women our life stages come with unique risk factors like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause, causing the risk of heart disease to go up. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil,

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You know, when you don't see them in broad daylight. But I think it's a massive... It just doesn't help figuring out what's going on. The artistry of all of it, you miss so much of it. Especially the final battle, the Predalien versus the Predator. They both are quite skinny and lithe, and they both have a weird big head with dreadlocks coming off. Sometimes you're like, which is which?

Yeah, exactly. And it also feels like that last moment that it is like an old god. To be clear, it's the Predator. He's puffing on a dart. He's had enough of these kids. He's headed out for a smoke. I wasn't going to smoke. I said I wouldn't.

Yeah, it does feel like an old godzilla movie at the end because they're two like creatures of about the same size which are clearly just you know two men in rubber costumes just kind of clashing into each other yes and i think the appeal of a fight like that in previous movies if you look at like the first alien or Aliens, you know, you get Ripley, a human woman up against this like giant creature and, you know, Arnold against the Predator. They're very different. But in this situation, just two rubber suits running into each other. Agreed. A clash of the titans. A true clash of the titans.

That's not what I was saying, Mason. Sounds like it. I don't know. I feel like one needs to be like more agile or put a person in there. Because often in the classic video games, and for example, the arcade game, you've got some human characters in there running about. That's true.

He has a big robot mech arm in it or whatever. That's yet another Dutch Schaefer. That's another Dutch Schaefer. How many of these guys are there? There's too many of them. We should get rid of at least one of them. But yeah, we talked about the ending. Pretty grim ending, right?

Just like Nuka Town and like, we made it, I guess. They get the Predator gun and they run away. Yes. That guy should have bought more stuff. You know, he gets to the Predator ship and he's like, oh, second gun. You don't have a second gun? Maybe he's saving up for a second gun. The wife took the second gun.

Oh, did she? She took everything. He's just trying his best with these kids, all right? Yeah. So actually an alternate ending was shot where the survivors are found by the special forces and then they're just all shot. Well, that makes more sense, doesn't it?

It does, yeah. Like where? Why nuke the town and just go, nah, leave these people. You guys can go though yeah you've seen our faces you can go though yeah send us a birthday card or something later i don't know yeah i mean you absolutely would shoot him in the head but i guess they were like we we need some that would be too grim i think i think the grimness for me yes would have switched over

to kind of okay if they just went all in interesting just went everybody's dead huh anyway i do want to talk about another alternative ending which was nearly shot as well. But before we do that, it's green trivia time, everybody. Love it. Like the green of the alien's acidic blood. No, Mason. It's yellow.

It's yellow. And also, yeah, the alien's blood is green. The predator's blood is green and the alien's blood is yellow. That's what I was thinking about. But this is just green trivia. There are no, this is what it's named. We don't change it week to week. That's true.

Danny Glover, who starred in Predator 2, was considered to reprise his role as Mike Harrigan, now retired. So I guess they just cut to him and he's like, it's good to be on a beach. I'm so retired. You wouldn't believe how retired I am. You wouldn't read about it yeah

the Strauss brothers actually they haven't directed anything since Skyline in 2010 do you remember that vaguely yeah that went on

the people with big blue light people going into the sky and all of that but they do continue to work in visual effects they've worked in a number of properties

I would like to see them come back and do something else I feel like off this and Skyline like Hollywood have kind of been like, you're not making any more movies.

We're not giving you no more money. But maybe they should, you know? I agree. Bill Paxton was approached to play the diner chef. However, scheduling conflicts prevented him from doing so. Also, he's in Predator 2. He's like a guy in that. Yeah, he's already got the trio.

He's already been killed by a Terminator, an alien, and a Predator. Well, that's true also. Why would he want to be killed by... Maybe he wanted a clear winner. Yeah, he'd up Lance Hendrickson by one. That's true. Twice killed by a Predator.

Yeah. Here's something. Colonel Stevens was originally written as Garba, who's Adam Baldwin from Predator 2. And when Baldwin couldn't be scheduled, the character was changed to Colonel Stevens, a character I'd remember. Nice.

Don't I, Mason? You sure do. I remember everything about movies. I remember that. So you've also probably noticed that the wolf predator, that fucking lunatic running around, just leaping rooftop to rooftop, being seen stabbing people. You kids on this bloody rooftop? No?

I'm going to... You're on this other bloody rooftop, you bloody kids. I'm sick of it. I've had a gutful. I'll set this nuke off. I'll do it. So he actually has one of his mandibles. Mandibles? Mandibles.

Mandibles. Is melted, which is a callback to and the original Alien vs Predator comic the character Melty Mandebles no his name is Broken Tusk I believe he's in that one or whatever anyway let's talk

Budget Mason this only cost 40 million dollars which is you know it makes sense because there's no lights in this that's true

lights are the primary cost in Hollywood I think electricity yes there's like a real shady light industry over in Hollywood.

They're like, you want a lamp in that scene? Million bucks. You want to shoot at day? You can't. You've got to shoot at night with lights that make it look like it's daytime. Oh, Stallone, you want to make daylight?

It's going to cost you, buddy. It did, however, it only made about $130, which is fine. Makes us money back then. And good, but people don't like this. You're the only one.

I'm the only one? I know there'll be people below the two, but I looked into a lot of like... But they're wrong. Yeah. It's only me. Yeah, I know. It's only you. But I looked into like Predator fan forums and all that and various Reddit pages and

that. People do not like this. But I don't think it's without its... I was going to say charm. There's no charm in this. Horribleness. Yes. There's a lot of horribleness going

on, you know? And it's interesting because I don't often enjoy pointless gore and cruelty. But in this I do. I love it. That's great. So here's that extended ending I was talking about. So at one point

there was an idea pitched for an ending which takes place after Miss Yutani takes possession of the Predator weapon, right? It's a little post-credits sequence, pre-post-credits sequences. That's right. And it happens before the credits. But it predates the Marvel situation. It's a pre-post-credits, if you will. It is a pre-post-credits.

It's a thing at the end. That's what they used to call them for kids. Did you see that thing that happened at the end? Did you see the thing at the end? Yeah. The gun would transition. Thingos we'd call them for kids. Did you see that thing that happened at the end? Yeah. The gun would transition. Thingos we'd call them for short. You see that thingo? Yeah. The gun would transition into the Weyland-Yutani logo on

a spaceship 50 years in the future heading towards the alien's home planet. The scene would then shift to the planet surface where a tribe of predators was trying to catch a huge winged dinosaur like alien nicknamed King Alien. Whoa whoa in the main media we haven't seen like we've seen queens but we haven't seen kings so yeah so concept art was created there was storyboards but ultimately uh this idea was dropped because i wanted to put it in a third film which have you seen that movie no it

doesn't doesn't exist m! They didn't make it. If you had said you had, I would have called you out on here. I would have been like, you're fucking lying, mate! You lie to everybody! Well, I'll never fool you. You're bloody tricks. I know you're bloody tricks, mate. Yeah.

You're always asking, have I seen that third movie? And I'm like, no, it doesn't exist. Iron Man 3 doesn't exist, mate. Alien 3, not a thing. Do you... Okay, they're not going to do it now. No. But... Would I watch another one? Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Nah. Alright, fine. Do you Okay they're not gonna do it now No But

Would I watch another one Yeah Yeah Hell yeah Nah Alright fine I don't know Can I have my Predators sequel please

To the movie Predators Can somebody make that fucking movie They did it was a little comic book It's a No Was that a prequel I can't remember It came after I know the characters have gone on to do things

And whatever Adrian Brody's character's a chef now. That's right, he's a chef now. But it's ridiculous. He learned all these alien recipes made out of alien bits. They made predators and then they made the predator. They sure did. That's a horrible thing to do to a person.

Me, specifically. Right, right, right. Okay, I get it now. Yeah. Anyways, people need to know this, Mason. Go on. We're actually going on a break this August. That's true. If you listen to our podcast, The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows, you might to know this, Mason. Go on. We're actually going on a break this August. That's true.

If you listen to our podcast, The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows, you might already know this. That's right. But yeah, we decided to shut everything down. YouTube channel, Facebook groups, all the social medias. Everybody who works for us is still getting paid, but we're just being like, hey, let's all have a month off.

Let's chill. That's right. Let's all chill. Let's go smoke behind the shed. Yeah. And I love hustle. So are Dan's concerts. I love hustle Let's go smoke Beyond the shed Yeah And I love hustle So our dads can't sit I love hustle culture

Don't I Mason Yeah you got that Hustle grind set baby But I'm also tired Yeah So I'm going to take August off Look we'd love it

If people did stick around There's going to be stuff Probably up until You know The very end of August But so yeah If you don't know What's going on

If you're wondering Why we've disappeared We absolutely We're dead We're dead Yep If you're listening to this We are dead't know what's going on, if you're wondering why we've disappeared, we absolutely are coming. We're dead. Yeah. If you're listening to this, we are dead.

Yeah. And here's a hint towards what we're going to be doing when we come back. I think it's the Hobbit trilogy. What do you think about that? I'm still pretending to be dead. Oh. Yeah. I think it's the Hobbit trilogy.

Oh, cool. That's cool. Yeah, I like that. Okay. Wait, those are bad. I just remembered. And it's one book and they split it into three. What are you doing?

It was just filler. There's that weird handsome dwarf. Remember that guy? I do. He's just a little regular handsome man. I could have done that. Why didn't they call me? Yeah, but you didn't. Yeah, I didn't. It's true. And look, if you are going to be missing us over the month, our

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From the freaking 80s, man. And then we also did a commentary for the first Predator movie as well. That's right. From the freaking 80s, man. From the freaking 80s, man. And then we also did a commentary for the first Predator movie as well. That's right. From the freaking 80s, man. From the freaking 80s, man. So if you're jonesing for more Predator content, you could watch those movies or read those comics or just hear us talk about them.

Or you could watch this horrible movie on Disney Plus for some reason. It's on Disney Plus. Star. I don't know what it is. It's probably a little something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, we really appreciate it. Thank you so much to Ben and Lawrence for this edit. And we'll see you. I don't know what it is. It's probably a little something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, we really appreciate it. Thank you so much to Ben and Lawrence for this edit.

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