The Weekly Planet - Blade Runner - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

It's impossible to list all the visual design elements, tropes and world building that Blade Runner had on popular culture upon its initial release in 1982. Despite bombing in a most spectacular fashion Ridley Scott managed to literally redefined the future of sci-fi despite the atrocious Harrison Ford/Rick Deckard's voice over. Here we look at the definitive version from 2007 that restores original scenes, removes others including said voice over and changes the ending in a manner that completely alters the meaning of the entire film. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage review and be sure to return next week for the follow up! It's not Blader Runner 2049SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravana Garbage, where Blade Runner, Oh yes. Trilogy. It's on everybody's lips and minds. Yeah, no way. It's making a mind lip. Connection, yes.

With the machine that breathes and looks at your eye. You better believe it does. And it says, you're a robot. Sure. That's what it says. Absolutely it does. Yes. Please.

Please. We're hanging on by a thread here. Also, this is one of those movies where we're like, I'm like, I don't know if I'm quite. qualified to cover this. Well, Mason, you say that. Please leave a like. But you studied this at high school,

which makes me think that not only have you seen the movie in all the versions, you've read the book it was loosely based off, and its sequel novels, all three or four of them. By KW Jeter? No, I haven't. I haven't at all, but I remember when they came out. I'm like, ooh, intriguing.

But? I didn't. I was going to say also, I remember that I had a bunch of, we got handed like a big packet of like a four notes stapled together, like of like the themes and what have you. Okay, I hate that.

I wish I had them still. Because it's the last vestige of like notes on these movies that weren't made with chat GPT, like some actual human involvement in the making of those. I wish I had them. So I could just read off and verbatim as if I wrote them. I mean, that's interesting also that your school wasn't like, what did you get out of this?

It's like, here's every printed off thought about Blade Runner and what it means and who's a replicate and if the machine that breeds tells you, screams it, you that you're a robot or whatever. It does. But did this like ruin the experience for you? Yeah, it did, because that was my first experience with the movie Blade Runner. Yeah.

Which I think at the time was the director's cut. It would have been, yeah. I think so. Without the narration and the end word, yes. What? Doesn't Harrison Ford say the N word? I did not know that. Must have cut it out.

Wow, incredible. Somebody does. First off, 2019, ridiculous year to choose for this movie. I mean, the weather's about right, though, isn't it? I guess so. Weebar's future also. Yeah, that they got right.

Nothing wrong with that. So yeah, as mentioned, it's based on the, loosely based on the story to Android's dream of electric sheep. And the answer is, some of them do.

Another Philip K. Dick special. What's his dick move in this? We'll find out, weren't we? So, Ridley Scott was initially working on Dune, which ended up being adapted by David Lynch, but that was taking too long. So he left.

Also, his older brother died and he wanted to keep working. So he was like, you know, that Blade Runner thing, that's new sound. I've been looking for. That's right. Give it to me.

I'll do it. Listen to this. Oh no, it's just the N word. Tarison Ford. Phoning in the N word. Don't listen to that. Allegedly, I don't know. It's interesting that the visual language of cyberpunk has sort of endured, like this

version of it. Absolutely. Like when they do modern cyberpunk stuff, like your cyberpunk 27, for example. Yeah. Like when you look at the silhouette of the clothes or the architecture or what have you, but no one would ever make a piece of cyberpunk media today with a evangelist score to it. That's a shame. though, isn't it? Right? Yeah, what a bold

decision. Agreed. I mean, people talk about whether or not you like or love or even were forced to look at this movie at school. The score has always remained incredible and popular. In literature class, no less. This is literature, exactly. So I've since come back to it and I'm like, oh yeah, good movie actually. Oh, you were mentioning the pre-production

of this movie. So of course it was called Do And Android's Dream of Electric Sheep? And they might, some do. Maybe sometimes they do. But then I believe one of the options was just to call it Android. Yeah. Because they're like,

okay, well, that's a very Philip K. Dick name of a story. But it's in the hip, cool 80s, and we want to make this cyberpunk and aging and cool.

We're not going to call it do androids dream of electric shape. Absolutely. Android was an option. At one point, it was going to be called Dangerous Days.

I don't like that either. No, I don't like it all. That reminds me of Australian radio DJ, Dangerous Dave. I mean, that I like. Yeah, hell yeah.

But yeah, they eventually settled on Blade Runner. Do you know why? Is it because it's on a knife's edge? I don't know. I wish you had your big stack of A4 paper you could tell me. I don't think this was in the big stack of A4 paper. Oh, this is an original thought.

No, it's not an original thought. Thank God. But there's no reference to why a Blade Runner is called The Blade Runner in this or I believe any of the subsequent movies or TV shows. It might be in the books. So there's a novel by a man named Alan Norse called The Blade Runner, which is also a dystopian future story. and it's about a United States

where only certain people are allowed to get health care. Only the... Oh my God. Exactly. Mason, is this a present-day novel that just came out? No, it's from the 70s or whatever. I don't know. So there's an underground network of like surgeons and doctors

to help people who can't get the official government health care and the people that smuggle surgical equipment are called Blade Runners. Right. And so apparently... This sounds like that Jude Law Forest Whitaker movie we've talked about. Repo. Repo men or man. So I don't know if it's ever been officially confirmed,

but apparently somebody in the production team had a copy of the novel, and they acquired the rights to the entire thing. Just so they could use the name. That's interesting. But it's interesting also, about the time the director's cut came out. Which was released as a mistake initially, by the way.

They accidentally screened it, and people went, oh, this is good. Yeah. We like this the way that Harrison Ford doesn't say certain things. That's right. But at that time, as you mentioned, series of spin-off sequel novels came out by KW. Gita. I believe in one of those, they like retroactively explain why he's, why they're called Blade Runners, but...

Because they stole the name from that book. That's exactly right. So Hampton Fancher originally wrote the screenplay for this. And then David Peoples was brought in to expand the world because apparently was quite, it was mostly like indoors and, you know, smoky rooms, which there is a lot of. And then Hampton Fancher was like very upset by that. Great name, by the way, Hampton Fancher. Completely great. Yeah. I don't know what else he did. Oh, his whole deal. Well, he did this and that's good.

I don't endorse his whole deal, all right? But then he came back on board as well to keep polishing it, and they ended up becoming really good friends, which I think it's great. Anyway, we should talk about the story of this if you haven't seen it or studied it at school. Sure. Okay. And Ridley Scott, bearing in mind, regards this as his most complete and personal film, presumably the 2007 version, which is the one that we watched.

But he also said the dog stars were his best film. But then he took that back, maybe I can't remember. And he said, Paul. Meskell was a big loser for being in Gladiator 2. Dude. Is that true that he is? That's he is and that's what he said. Great. So anyway, it's the far-flung future of 2019.

Oh my God, can you imagine? Yep. Imagine the kind of flying cars we'll have in 2019. Can't wait to see it. I hate flying cars now. It's just cars with big propellers. You can't convince me that's a proper flying car. That's a whirlig, if anything.

Absolutely. It's some sort of fantabulous contraption. So anyway, there's a... Humanity has created, the Tyrol Corporation, I guess, specifically. These machines called replicants, which very closely mimic humans. They are humans. They are humans. They are humans. They're humans that are just stronger than humans.

Yeah, and they can... They bleed red blood. Yep. They have thoughts and feelings and emotions. Totally. And so they're used for, like, slave labor and combat and things like that. But the replicants, because they're just humans. Yeah.

They don't like that. No. So there's various rebellions and uprisings as a result of this. And the newest models... Nexus six is. A few of them have got loose and not only if they got loose, they've come back to Earth, which is considered very unusual because they don't normally do that, because most, anybody of substance or who has any money or who can is not on Earth anymore. Yeah.

Because Earth sucks now. That's right. Because it's 2019, which was true. Although they're always like, it's interesting that like the off-world colonies are considered this kind of dream. But it's like, are they though? I mean, why are they advertising them to the down and outs of this scumbag city? Good point. They're so good.

Well, maybe, you know, we'll see one of those off-world colonies in the movie we look at next week, Mason. And maybe it's not Blade Runner 2049. So anyway, these replicants come back for reasons unknown, but it turns out it's because they only have a four-year lifespan, so they're tracking down their creator to extend their lifespan. And, you know, the narrative is framed. And then you've got people called Blade Runners, Harrison Ford is one, whose job it is to track down replicants and retire them.

And by that, I mean, shoot them in the back. Yeah, as they run away. As they run away. And I guess, you know, there's the moral ambiguity of this is that what does count as life, replicants. Replicants. Replicants. It's parallels, you know, obviously to real world events.

And who's really the bad guy? Decad. Yeah, for the most part. Yeah. But also, there's a little twist on that character. Oh, is there? Okay. For decades.

Deccade. Very good. Okay, so one of the things that stand out from this, as I'm sure you're aware, The model work in this is phenomenal, holds up to this day. You know, they're doing multiple passes for that opening shot of the city, you know, with the fire shooting up. Pyramids. Pyramids and they're layering, you know, flying cars on it and big triangles and big Panasonic signs and Japanese ads because it's a weeb future basis. Is there some sort of curse involving the, is there some sort of alleged curse involving the various brands in the movie?

I think, there has been talk of that. If you've been featured in this movie as a future corporation, like a real one, you don't exist anymore. Like Atari certainly. TDK is gone. I mean, they did amazing things for my system. But they're gone now, et cetera. I mean, they did their best work with your system. Where else could you go?

That's exactly right, isn't it? Yeah. Oh, that is interesting. I mean, I guess we'd have to, Ben would have to put a list of brands. That's right. And then put a cross next to them. Yeah, and he'd have to email all the brands and see what they're up to these days. They're probably all just been bought by the one company and now they just make t-shirts with those logos.

I think Atari is 100% that. That and casinos and crypto. Yeah. And every now and then they'll, you know, they'll sell a 501 console, which is garbage. Absolutely. That they got, they rebranded from Alibaba or whatever. That's it.

So Sid Mead was originally hired to just design the vehicles and props. To be a visual futurist James? Absolutely. And he's done other things, including video games. But in his sketches, he included a lot of background work and buildings and architecture. So he then was asked to stay on and just become like, the lead, one of the lead designers on this. He's the J.F. Sebastian of this movie.

Why do you say J.F. Sebastian? Because he's a character in this movie. Because he's making a bunch of little freaks. That is the most jarring part. Like you would never see a bunch of little, little drummer boy freaks in a cyberpunk 2077 or whatever. That is true. You'd see something cool, wouldn't you? Yeah. Something cool and hip and maybe it has a guitar or whatever.

Like a monkey with a robot brain in a guitar. That is cool. If we could get bent to scrub through all of Cyberpunk 2077 to find a monkey with a robot brain in the guitar. Easy, no problem. And all the expansions as well. It's probably in there. Probably in there. But yeah, this looks incredible. Whether it's, you know, the miniature work or whether it's the stuff that's like real streets that they like dressed up. And the reason it does look so good is because the like the three, I guess, it's not a philosophy. The three things that they used were for filming is nighttime, wet and smoke. Which means you can do things cheaper.

It looks better. You can, you kind of imagine the distance that there is as opposed to actually having to do it. That's the philosophy of this video series. Yes. Nighttime wet smoke. That's what we do. That's how we do. That's why videos are so good. Absolutely. We insist that Ben edits these in the rain at night with a smoke machine going. Well yeah, also because there was so much smoke machines and things like at play at any one time, the air often that everybody was breathing, including cast and crew, was just horrendous. I bet. And everybody's smoking cigarettes and, you know, there's just layers and layers of toxins involved. But, you know, if you look at a street like this and you compare it to like Judge Dredd, which came out a decade plus later, I would say equally complex in the, you know, in the construction.

But Judge Dredd, it's like, it's in- Yeah, I mean, I think it, you know, it looks- But Mega City one is supposed to look stupid. Yeah, totally. But, you know, you can- It's supposed to look cool. It does. And, you know, you can see, you know, again, you can hide a lot more here.

Anyway, so there's a bunch of weird units in this, which is good. Android people. Oh, I mean, also regular people. I've seen M.M. at Walsh. R-I-P as the chief, love him, he's great. He's good. But yeah, a bunch of weird units. Brian James as Leon.

Oh my God, yeah, amazing. For people who, again, if you haven't seen the movie, the only way to determine whether an individual is a human or a replicant is to give them the Void Camp Test, which is they break out the big cassette future machine with the breathing bellows and the eye lens or whatever. And then you ask a series of invasive, but also like cold reasons. questions. Again, does it work at all? I don't know. Like there's a moment in this where of course, you know, Decker meets Rachel, who is a real person. Well, he thinks maybe it's a real person,

but then he asks her a series of questions with the Void Camp Test and he asks her a hundred questions. And then he's like, to Tyrell the boss of the corporation, she's a replicant. He could just be guessing, couldn't he? I mean, why else would you be there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But of course, Brian James is Leon. He's gotten a job and just sort of a menial job. and somebody is sent out to test him to see if he's human or a replica, and he asks him a question about, it's not really a question, it's a statement about a tortoise.

And then it's a question, and he says, tell me some only positive things about your mother. And Leon's like, I'll tell you about my mother and he shoots him. And upon this viewing, I'm like, what if this was only a two question? Interrogation.

What if it said, hmm, she was very kind. Oh, you've passed the test. You've done it, a bit of you, Leon. Apparently, and this is all stuff that was supplementary material and interviews with people involved.

It kind of, the breathing bellows it measures like specific particles in the air and things like that. Sounds fake. It is fake, Mason. It's a test of empathy, I guess. Yeah, but also like you said, most people, I think, wouldn't cope with this test.

I think it's a... And if anything, it's annoying. It's an annoying test. Maybe that's the test. Maybe if you're a replicant, you don't get annoyed at it. But Leon's was certainly, annoyed and Rachel was also annoyed

she was annoyed well there's also a deleted scene with Holden who's the guy that Leon shoots where Harrison Ford goes to visit him and he's in like a hyperbaric kind of healing chamber back to tank no it's just the bed a bed with glass over it and it's wet it's not and it's night time and there's smoke

it's not it's internal it's probably smoke in the machine yeah but he's just like these robots are worse than ever I couldn't even I couldn't even tell I would have been able to tell just looking at that guy but yeah so there's a bunch of stuff to lead from this, some of which we can't talk about. But yeah, all those replicants are great.

Darrell Hanna is incredible. The moment when Harrison Ford has the fight with Leon and he gets the gun slapped out of his hand, that's an incredible moment. And Harrison Ford, he even does little bits of investigation. He's not a great detective, I would say, but he does put on a little voice to talk to the snake lady, doesn't he? That's true.

Just like in big trouble in Little China. That's true. And just like he does in that brief scene in Indiana Jones and the one with his dad. That's so true, isn't it? Yeah. So, just to get back to miniatures for this. So apparently there was almost seven miles of fiber optic cables and 2,000 lights to illuminate the landscape sequences. And Tyrell's pyramid was nine square feet at the base.

Two and a half feet high was made out of plexiglass and then painted black. Then windows were scratched out of it so light could shine through. But the light was so powerful that in the end it got very hot and the model caught fire and melted. That was towards the end of film. Oh, sure, yeah. Luckily. Wonder where the remnants of that are now? I did read where it was.

It is available. In a pervets basement? Yeah, in a pervets basement. That's right. It's probably in George Lucas's fancy new museum museum. Oh my God, all those little freaks, they'd be in some perverts basement, wouldn't they? You better believe it. All those little J.F. Sebastian freaks.

Oh, yeah. And I don't know if you know this, but I mentioned it earlier, but everybody, including Ridley Scott, had a bad time. Because he filmed this in the US, he couldn't bring his old crew over. Uh-huh. Because like alien. He's non-union crew? Yeah. Yeah.

Do you think this would have anything to do with the fact that their filming philosophy was night time wet and the third thing uncomfortable smoke yeah i would say yes i mean darrell hannah talks about how that she didn't see daylight for like the four or five months or whatever that they shot in of this but yeah day one he turned up to film in tyrell's office and he's like columns are upside down and they'd literally put them in upside down he's like i'm not really scott has a very specific eye and he was like you got to you got to flip this man and from then it was and they said because they were union they were like have you considered flipping the camera have you considered putting the actors on the roof that's it

Interesting. That would save us an afternoon, so... Yeah. We are union. So they were just constantly behind over budget. He would clash with Harrison Ford. A lot of just waiting around for setups again, because Ridley Scott was like,

he wasn't used to working with his crew. He doesn't like to be asked why he's doing things. Okay. So he's like, I know. I know why I'm doing it. Don't you worry about that. I'm just saying, you do this, and then you do that. And that's how it works.

You've got a similar vibe, I think. I think I do. Hmm. Wait. Is that good? I'm just saying. I'm just saying things, all right? So, yeah, him and Harrison Ford, they were not sympathico.

Interesting. How does Harrison Ford feel about this movie now? I mean, better now, yeah. I mean, after seeing it initially, it was like, oh, this is quite good, whatever, and he obviously came back for the sequel and, etc. As Harrison Ford in a t-shirt. That's true, yeah. His favorite character and role.

Oh, speaking of shirts, Mason, a nice future wet shirt, Harrison Ford, you stupid idiot. The moment he comes back after being in the fight with the Androids, and he's wearing that. I don't even know what to. call it Mason, but it's just incredible. Incredible. It's always fun when people take a stab at like what fashions

are going to be. The coat works. The coat works, but it's also interesting, like, and again, like, the silhouette of the coat with the big shoulders and the kind of the long, you know, trench of it all. But just the idea that who, you know, the production team were like, you know what's going to be popular in the future? Just a lot of patterns all together.

Just a weird polka-dottie shirt with all sorts of lines and a plaidious. tie and just put it all together. Everybody's wearing that. Wet. And it's wet. Everything's wet also.

There's too many patterns and it's wet. Yeah. You know what's something that doesn't work in this? Oh, here we go. All that love... Okay, nostalgia critic. Here we go. All that love scene.

Love into stuff. Where he's like, give me a kiss. It fucking sucks. Give me. Tell me you want me to give you a kiss. I think them together are bad. I don't think it's supposed to feel as... Is it supposed to feel as off-putting?

as it is, maybe it is. I don't know. I kind of feel like it's meant to feel like a film noir kind of, like a 1940s film noir where it's like, you don't know what you want, baby, give me a kiss though. You know that whole vibe? You're a robot, baby, give me a kiss. Yeah.

But I guess, you know, looking at this. I don't want to. Well, that just proves you're a replicant. Or a real woman, I don't know. I want big kisses, though. I don't think any of that works. I think the sequel, though, you know, it talks about the love and the life that they shared after.

So I guess it developed. Something more interesting. Well, I guess I am trapped in the desert with you, Rick Deckitts, so... Let's have a baby. Yeah. Yeah. But someone who is incredible, and we've barely talked about him, Rutger Hauer is like the star of this.

And he's riffing stuff, apparently. Mate, he's riffing stuff. He's doing ice stuff. He's squeezing Tyrell. That's good stuff, man. Let's talk... Okay, so it ends with they all have a big confrontation. They're getting a punch-up on the roof.

Well, it's not a punch-up, it's Harrison Ford running away. Correct. Yeah. For fear of getting punched up. That's right. And so originally had this long and technical speech about things he'd seen and done and whatever. And Rutgerhauer, he kept pieces that he liked and then added the last two lines. All those moments would be lost in time like tears in rain.

Time to die was already in there. And it's just like the performance and like the emotion in it and just cutting to a blank-faced Harrison Ford, just not knowing what to make of this situation. Also him being like, funny words from a robot, I'll tell you that much. Oof. Wish I had a bigger gun and non-broken fingers. I'd shoot this guy right now for being a dumb robot. Saying big words, I don't understand.

Well, maybe he's thinking like, all right, mate, we've all got stuff going on. Yeah. I've also seen beams or whatever, ships. You're four years old. Yeah. What could you have possibly seen? What have you seen blocks? What have you seen blocks and teddy bears?

But it's just, it's so phenomenal. I mean, there's a reason why it's so iconic, right? Yeah. And his performance. And Rutger Howell are RIP. Like he loved this movie And he loved talking about this movie And he was always happy to engage with it

Now wonder Blubert team brought him back For the video game Observer Yeah that's no wonder What was that about Was that that knock off blade runner kind of It's pretty It's kind of cyberpunkgy sci-fi Yeah

Well cyberpunkgy sci-fi That's right exactly He was also in Batman Batman begins He was on the board Oh yeah And Christian Ball is like I'm taking this back

I'm Batman You can't take my comedy Wait a minute I'm not Batman I'm sleepy CEO Bruce Wayne That's right And we mentioned it earlier But yeah there is a

Harrison Ford did a lot of voiceover work Because when they were testing this movie People were like I don't know what's going on I don't get this So it's just Harrison Ford explaining the thing Why is it Harrison Ford shooting normal men and women Well Well

Great question audience That's the thing right Because it's just him explaining things As he's doing it I haven't seen the sequence Where he zooms in on a photograph Which is amazing by the way The best enhanced scene in

anything. Yeah. God, but also, again, like, like with the fashion, just people speculating on where the technology would go. That's a 3D photograph, right? Imagine trying to do that, like, without a mouse and keyboard or a track pad or whatever, just trying to do anything. Imagine trying to video edit, like going like, uh, move forward three. I mean, stop, uh, uh, uh, Zoom.

Wait, stop. Uh, uh. And it's wet. Ben's doing it wet. He's doing it wet. Oh, I know. Absolutely. Again, people didn't know what technology could potentially.

be people didn't know what technology was but the some of the worst voiceover work in this is after he does that beautiful speech and then i take it as like like he chooses to shut down it seems like you know the coincidence that it happens at that exact moment you know maybe you got sleepy maybe he did but harrison ford's voice over which he was like forced to do when he did it board was like i don't know why he saved my life maybe he did it maybe he was like i like human life i don't know and it's just like fuck man You don't need any. It just undercuts like the entire, the entire thing.

But we should talk about the different endings and different versions of this. Because the theatrical cut has sequences, where the scene where they're driving off in the, together, in a non-ruined world, which doesn't make any sense. That footage is from The Shining. Oh. So he emailed. He emailed Stanley Kubrick.

He could have faxed. He could have faxed. It was like, I need some footage for the end of this. It's Stanley Kubrick's like, get some off-cuffs. By the way, Joe Turkle is Tyrell in this and he's also the bartender in, um... He is too. He's shining and that's fun. But the final cut, and again, there's a...

James Hong is Hannibal and he's also the bad guy in... Batman Begins. No, a bit trouble, little China. He is, you're right. It's the 80s, Mason. It's the 80s, man. But yeah, there's a bunch of other cuts in between, but the final cut, the definitive version, as everybody calls it, is that from 2007.

Ben Ford, who's Harrison Ford's son, re-recorded some dialogue in some scenes because it didn't sink up. My understanding is Joanna Cassidy, who plays the Replikin Zora. Yeah. They refilmed some of that death scene where she gets thrown through 40 windows. Yeah, they face replaced. That's crazy. Isn't that incredible?

Also, that's an incredible scene. We didn't even mention that, but she's great in this. Oh, my God. And just, I love the fact that they've given her, like, that transparent plastic coat, and then it just gets soaked in blood and wetness. Wetness and smoke. God, it's good. It's great.

Yeah. I wouldn't have fallen through that many windows, though. You don't think so? I would have stopped at the first one, probably. I would have been like, that's a window. And I'm not going to... Even being shot in the back? Yep.

You probably would have duck the bullet. Easily, yeah. I would have convinced Harrison Ford not to fire the bullet. Yeah, maybe. I'm just like you because of humanity and robots. And he would have been like, great point. Slavery, think about it. I think he'd be like, but you're not one of the ones that I want to have sex with.

So this doesn't matter to me ultimately. That's true. Yeah. It's almost like he's the bad guy, isn't it? No. And he needs to think about some stuff. No. But maybe you should think about his memories and what's real basis.

He could think about it. his memory's great segue, James. Because, you know, it's the ongoing debate, and people will be in the comments and be like, it's definitively this. But it's not really, right? No, it's not supposed to be definitively anything. Yeah, idiot.

Now, my understanding is... That being said he is. Wow. Or he isn't. Or he isn't. No, my understanding is Ridley Scott has said definitively, he believes Deccid is a replicant, right? And Harrison Ford said human.

Harrison Ford wanted Deccad to be human, so the audience had an emotional connection to a real person. though he later acknowledged the complex ambiguity, which suggests to me that he filmed the movie, didn't think about it at all. And then somebody just hit him with it in an interview when he went, oh, yeah, guess, I don't know. I don't know, when did I film that?

20 years ago? All right, great. Yeah. That's one of my good ones, yeah? Yeah. If I come back and do another one, they give me $25 million, yeah? Yeah, I'm not putting the costume on, though.

I'll wear this. I'll wear my weed smoking t-shirt. I have to take your ring out, yeah? Yeah. Yeah? Another $5 million. Can I? Can I turn my head so that it's a hearing?

But I mean, you know, there's arguments for or against. Obviously, there's the sequence where... So one of the theories is that Deccad is a replicant of Gaff. So Edward James almost... Character, because Edward James almost is also a Blade Runner. Or was. He was, but he's on a walking stick a lot of the time, which suggests maybe he's decided he's like, you know,

he's incapacitated, he's not up to retiring all these replicants. So they made a replica of him and Gagin. gave him Gaff's memory, so he thinks he's real. And that is why he has that dream sequence where he sees the unicorn running through the forest, and then Gaff later puts a little origami thingy of a unicorn for him to find, suggesting he knows what Deccan's memories are. But I mean, two things, two thoughts I had upon a rewatch of this, we know in the movie it's already been established that you can copy someone else's memories

and put them in a replicant because, Rachel's memories are just Tyrell's niece's memories, which, I mean, so presumably they can see the memories. So it's entirely possible they just saw Deck and have a dream of a unicorn. Absolutely. And at some point, they've copied his memories and just looked at him on a screen and given that to Gaff for whatever reason. Yeah. Maybe it's also entirely possible. You know how sometimes, you know how it's considered a fairly common dream?

If you're, like, stressed, then you dream that you've woken up at school and you haven't studied for the test and you don't have your clothes on it. A blade runner test. Exactly, and all your teeth fall out or whatever. Maybe if you're a blade runner, for whatever reason, the stress of being a blade runner and killing these replicants gives everybody a unicorn dream. Absolutely. Maybe that's just really common. Maybe there's a popular Japanese unicorn ad for Panasonic that they've all been watching. That's exactly right.

Yeah. But what I think is interesting about whether or not he is. Yes. And again, I don't really think it matters. In the book, he's human. In the book, he's human, that's right. But it changes the motivations and the... the meaning of the movie.

Oh. Depending on what, in what way you interpret it. And I think being able to pull that off is, it's such a, it's such, it's like walking on the edge of a blade, if you will. Ooh. It's like running with a blade and you're running around and you're stabbing people. But it's, uh, but you're a robot. Oh, so it's Jason X? No, it's, yeah, it's Jason X.

Okay. Or the Terminator or whatever. Sure. Yeah. But here's the thing about this movie, right? Yes. I think, for me, right? It's an incredible world that it looks amazing and it's so fascinating and detailed and the soundtrack is incredible.

And it just feels like everything is lived in. Everything is awful. Everybody has got their own terrible story to tell. Sure. But I don't always think that the narrative, like just if you look at the core narrative of like Harrison Ford and what he's doing. The Narison Ford. The Narison Ford and the love story. I don't, for me.

I don't think it matches the law and the mystery and the world and the look and the fit. Like the vibe is better. Sure. Than the... Does that make sense? I guess so. Which is why I think I enjoy the sequel more than the original. Oh, brave words from a coward.

From someone who's normally a coward. I mean, even just the idea that like, I don't think it's that interesting that Harrison Ford sees an android that he's attracted to and then it's like, oh, fuck it. I'll, yeah, all right. I'm just going to not do the thing I do anymore. Like, I just, do you know what I mean by that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like when a man falls in love with one of those sex dolls. Yeah.

Sure. What man? I don't know. Is it me? I don't think it is, by the way. Okay, I'm just throwing that out there just in case you have anything to reveal at this moment. What about you, though? How do you, as someone who had this drilled into him in the U10 or whatever?

Well, I don't know. I think I think it's. I think it's a pretty great package, man. Yeah, no, it is. This is not me saying it's bad because it is not. It's incredible. I don't know. I guess I had to get over my inherent bias of anything that I learned in school.

You know, inherently sucks. Yeah. But I don't know. I've turned around. I think it's a... It's phenomenal. And it's also from 1982. Yeah.

Which makes it even more phenomenal. Agreed. Yeah. It's a couple of documentaries that people should check out. Dangerous Days by Charles D. Lazareka. Oh, yes. It's like a four-hour Blade Runner documentary that he put together. It's so good.

And also, on the edge of Blade Runner by Mark Commode, the film critic, that's where Ridley Scott first admitted that Decker was a replicant. What? He got him to say it. Those are both worth checking out. And anyone else is worth checking out. Blade Run via. Love it.

This is the trivia section in the show where we go, James. Do you learn anything about Blade Runner that you want to impart on the viewers and listeners? I do. I do. I did what I did. Okay. And maybe if you want to admit some stuff. about inanimate objects this is not a section

about admitting anything okay all right you mentioned this but some of the titles that were thought about were android dangerous days and mechanismo

I like that bad because this move that's a play on machismo I guess McKizmo but like that's not what this movie's about

no he's not shooting people to prove he's a big man we already know he's a big man we can tell yeah he's so wet his shirt's so wet

that's what I'm saying, the mark of a big man. And when Mr. Darcy got so wet? Dude, he was so wet. Yeah. He's the manliest man there is. Speaking of manly men and big men, Dustin Hoffman was the original choice for Deccan. Doesn't work. He apparently

wanted to take it in another direction. I don't think that works. No. Martin Sheem was also apparently offered the role, but he was tired because he'd done Apocalypse now. Sure. And that movie made everybody tired. Yeah, he'd be tired out for a few years after that, I reckon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a $20,000 Tyrell fake head that was built to get squished.

Oh yeah, okay. And the initial idea was that they ended up not using it. Crazy. They just squished the man's head. They just had blood kind of fake blood shoot out. It's horrible. There's a lot of eye stuff in this. I don't know if you notice.

It's a theme. It's a theme of looking at eyes. What do you think that fake head is? Hey, pervets got it. Yeah, pervets got it. It's in a pervert vault. So one of the ideas was initially that the head would come apart and he was revealed as a replica.

And then Roy Batty goes upstairs. And there's concept of this. and he sees the original maker of the replicants, and he's in a cryo chamber, but he's died in there. So the whole thing is being run by a replicant man. So a normal man. A normal man. A real and actual man.

Yeah, you could squish his head. Ridley Scott asked M.M. at Walsh if he could smoke cigarettes for his character, something that he didn't do in real life, but agreed. And after shooting several takes, Walsh started getting sick from the cigarettes, and he said, Ridley should be hung by his balls off the ceiling. Wow. Just like those pillars, Mason. Flip them around.

Wow. Yeah. Anyways, box office for this. On a budget of $30 million that made 41.8 on initial release. There was a stretch of like movies that we now consider quite iconic. This came out the same week as the thing. Yeah, this just didn't do well at all. Yeah.

Uh-huh. Big trouble. Yeah. Little China. Also, E. Little box office. Little box office. Yeah.

E.T. came out like two weeks before and was just dominating. So, yeah, initially the word on this was like weird, not just. good, you know, and it is weird. You're great? No argument there. But yeah, so there's been sequels to this sequel books, which are also sequels to the movie and the original book. But there's also a...

Speaking of, you can also get the... We mentioned The Blade Runner, the book about medical equipment smugglers. That was also optioned as a movie, and William Burroughs wrote the script. You can get that. It's called Blade Runner A Movie. But it's a book. And it's a script in a book. A script in a book?

Yeah, you can read it. Can I buy it? You can buy it. Wow, did you read it for studies that you did? No, but I have read it. For personal studies. Oh, yeah. To prove that you've read a book.

To brag about reading a book. Like about the time I read The Hobbit, but I kept bragging about it. I remember. Andy Circus read it to me, Mason. Anyway, there is a sequel. There's a game that we have looked at. Well, we looked at it. We got through like one screen of it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's got a bunch of returning actors in it. Yeah. Which is really interesting. There was eventually a sequel. sequel in Blade Runner 2049 and short films and animated stuff and whatever. It's also linked to the alien universe as well. They might all be the same thing.

Because of Ridley Scott. Yes. But the movie we're looking at next week is a quasi-spinoff sci-fi movie to Blade Runner. Mostly down to the writer, I think. Yes. Who decided to sneak a bunch of stuff in. Correct. In I guess an era, the late 90s, where you were still allowed to do that stuff without lawsuits.

Exactly. We are talking about Kurt Russell's soldier. And you're never going to believe who the director is. We'll talk about it next week. I know who it is. I just had to think. And I know who it is. We just got rid of him.

We just got rid of that guy. We suffered through his work for like six, five, six weeks. Months. Months it was. Anyways, if you do want to see that early, you can at three places. Big Sandwich. Go, patreon.com slash Mr. Sunday movies, or become a YouTube member.

There's also bonus videos and podcasts and all sorts of crazy exclusive stuff that's crazy and exclusive. Don't we have a podcast? It's called The Weekly Planet. We talk movies and comics and TV shows. We talk about movies and comics and television shows and stuff. We would have reviewed Blade Runner 2049 when it came out. We're going to review Blade Runner 2099 when it comes out.

I hope that's good. I do too. I don't know though. I like the trailer. I think it looks good. I like the trailer. Mason, trailers actually, they're just an advertisement for the product. You're part of the problem.

Yeah, but I love products. I don't love advertising. Yeah, and I love being a problem, exactly. Feels good. It feels good to make my mind. Mark on the world by being annoying to other people. Thank you so much to Ben for the edit. Thank you, Ben.

See in the next one. Now dry off, Ben. Yeah, dry off, Ben. Yeah, and everybody, stay running. Stay... Trying something out of you? Blade, that's... Because he's running, isn't he?

He's always running. He doesn't run that much. No. No, he's not good at it. No. He's no Tom Cruise, is he? Well.