The Weekly Planet - Casino Royale (Extended) - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: September 16, 2021

After Die Another Day it was time for a reinvention of the James Bond franchise. The answer became in the form of the blonde haired blue eyed actor Daniel Craig in Casino Royale. Bringing the charac...ter yet again to the modern day it's considered to be one of, if not the best film in the franchise with incredible action, drama, revenge and romance with the inclusion of Vesper Lynd. Plus parkour. But like...good. Thanks for supporting our Caravan Of Garbage review. SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/XEJcG0WzTgYHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:55 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of Caravan of Garbage, where over the next four weeks, we're going to be taking a look at four of the Daniel Craig, James Bond movies. The current four that
Starting point is 00:01:14 are out. That's right. There is of course a new one and maybe we'll sneak some James Bond video games in at the end, but don't worry if you don't like them, just skip it. We don't care. Maybe. We'll put in some snippets from the movie No Time to Die. We'll just rip it off the internet and just put them in there. Just illegal clips of it. Just reach a bunch of copyright laws.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We want MGM to come at us because we know that your company will fall apart again and we will – oh, no, Amazon own them now. What are you going to do, sick that line on us? That line's got to be 100 years old at this point. I'll fight that line. I'll do it. You cowards. Leave a like if you could.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I just want to give a little bit of a background to this movie if you don't mind. Please. So Bond was very much on the way out after Die Another Day.
Starting point is 00:01:56 We have looked at the Brosnan series if people do want to check those out. Diamond faces. Yep. British men, they're wearing
Starting point is 00:02:04 electrical suits. Invisible cars. Invisible cars,, they're wearing electrical suits. Invisible cars. Invisible cars, oh my God, yes please. And then of course that movie came out at a similar time to the Jason Bourne franchise and everybody went, just do that. Yeah. And Bond went, that's what we do. We take a popular thing and then we do it slightly later than that thing.
Starting point is 00:02:23 And sometimes it works a treat. Yep. And sometimes people go, huh, that's just The Dark isn't it but that's not that's not this week the story for another day that's right so interestingly enough pierce brosnan he was initially asked back for this movie although die another day wasn't a good movie it did break a lot of records box office wise worst movie that's right number one worst movie of all time big bad movie and so they thought listen we need to kind of raise the bar in terms of spy movies it's not about gadgets and a man just a very drunk man in his early 50s stumbling about a set you know what
Starting point is 00:02:58 i mean that's right that that sounds that's throwing i like this brosnan i shouldn't have said that do you like him when he's got his colon Sanders beard? Have you seen that? I'm a big fan. Yeah, wow. So they also would have to have paid him $30 million plus royalty. And look, they went, no, this is clearly, it's time to go in another direction. And this movie, despite coming out four years after Die Another Day, it's like there's a million years between these two movies.
Starting point is 00:03:24 For sure, yeah. Yeah, how much about this do you enjoy? All of it. It's like there's a million years between these two movies. For sure, yeah. How much about this do you enjoy? All of it. It's my favourite James Bond film. Same, I think. I mean, to be fair, I haven't seen some or any of the Dalton movies. I've seen every James Bond movie multiple times, and yet this one, my favourite. Except, of course, for the 1960s
Starting point is 00:03:40 Casino Royale. Yes. David Niven. Thank God you brought that up. Who else is in that? Peter Sellers. Peter Sellers is in that. Other people. Yes. David Niven. Thank God you brought that up. Who else is in that? Peter Sellers. Peter Sellers is in that. Other people. People we won't name. Other comedians of the day that are dead and forgotten.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah, R.I.P. And Asula Andress is in it from Dr. No. Oh, really? She's in there as well, yeah. As that character? It doesn't matter. So I think, though, this, it nails so much. It nails, you know, the recast of James Bond.
Starting point is 00:04:05 It nails the theme song. I think it's, this, it nails so much. It nails, you know, the recast of James Bond. It nails the theme song. I think it's my favourite theme song. I think you disagree with me on that. That's correct. Mine's obviously the 1960s version of Casino Royale. Which seven James Bonds at Casino Royale went to save the girl and win the, wait, went to save the world and win the girl at Casino Royale. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:04:23 That's how the actual song goes as well. They're just like, do you want another take? Nah, we'll just keep it going. Yeah. They all changed their name to James Bond. All the agents changed their name to James Bond. We'll probably come back to it at some point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:35 We cover the 1950s episode of the American TV series Climax! Is that the one with Jimmy Bond in it? It is the one with Jimmy Bond, yeah. We could definitely do that. Which I didn't know until recently. Performed live. Oh, brave. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:04:50 Brave and bold. So I think it nails bringing back Judi Dench. It doesn't work in terms of the continuity of the series. This is a reboot. The other James Bonds, the ones that are technically owned by the same company, it's the same guy. I mean, sort of. Well, I mean company it's the same guy so i mean sort of well i mean it is the same director as golden eyes martin campbell they brought him back
Starting point is 00:05:09 to reboot it in the brosnan era and then they brought him back back such a good idea yeah uh and i guess you know i imagine judy dench being in this was partly a case of well she worked so well in the previous movies but also it might have been just like come on campbell liked her yeah last time so And we like her. We like her too. Yeah. I think the villain is terrific, if a little abrupt in the way that he's dispensed of.
Starting point is 00:05:32 He's got a bleeding eye and an asthma puffer. What more do you need? That's it. He's that nerd you bullied in high school. He's back. And he's got a rope. He's got a rope for your nuts. Look out.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I also think it does the best version of parkour we've ever seen in a movie, with maybe the exception of Punisher Warzone, which is more done for a gag. So the cold open of this, it's James Bond getting his 00 license, and the idea is that he has to kill two people to get that. One he brutally murders in a bathroom, and the second one he casually shoots at the desk and the guy's like,
Starting point is 00:06:06 you know, it's quite difficult to kill a man. This dude has killed so many people prior to this moment, like with his bare hands, almost certainly, right? Do you think so? He's a fucking lunatic. Just off the books.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yes. Because to get a double O status, you have to be assigned to kill two people, right? Yeah. You can't just be like- Oh no, it's not just anybody. You can't do it on your off hours. You can't be like, yeah, I was in a bar fight, I killed those two guys. Can I double O now, please? Yeah, right? Yeah. You can't just be like... Oh, no, it's not just anybody. You can't do it on your off hours. You can't be like,
Starting point is 00:06:26 yeah, I was in a bar fight. I killed those two guys. Can I double own our place? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you wouldn't mind. What I like about the scene where he kills the section chief, Dryden,
Starting point is 00:06:33 is when Dryden's already dead body is flung over his desk, you can see the little picture of his wife and kids on the desk, and I'm like, boy, this James Bond
Starting point is 00:06:42 doesn't care about nothing. Yeah, and he looks at the camera and he goes, that's right, Nick Mason, I don't. You got my letters. But I like the fact that in order to, like, he would have snuck in the office, taken Dryden's gun out of his drawer and seen that picture and been like, I don't care. I hear the pace slightly better. So the thing is as well, what I like about this version of Bond, and he's not everybody's
Starting point is 00:07:03 favourite, but I think he might be mine, Bond has always been the worst. And I mean like he's using queen and country as a thinly veiled excuse just to murder people. I think like Roger Moore is probably the exception because he's like the nicest, I guess. Yeah, from time to time. From time to time, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:22 But Daniel Craig, this version, is just so transparently awful, which is what I think James Bond is. Like, at his core, he's awful. And this guy is just James Bond with no finesse, you know? And that's what I like about it. But you probably know about the controversy surrounding the casting of this particular actor. More like James Blonde.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Whoa! You got my letters. The British press were not happy with the casting of Daniel Craig. They're not known for their ass ability. No, they're all getting anything right ultimately. But yeah, I remember there was some footage of Daniel Craig as Bond and he was on a boat and they were going to, I think, drive him up the Thames.
Starting point is 00:08:04 The big reveal. And then he was going to, you think, drive him up the Thames. The big reveal. And then he was going to, you know. We're going to use that underwater boat from Tomorrow Never Dies, baby. Yeah. And, you know, present him to the press. But, of course, for safety purposes, he had to wear a little life jacket over his suit. People were like, this man's a coward.
Starting point is 00:08:21 He should have to drown for a movie. If that boat capsizes, he should have to drown for a movie if that boat capsizes he should drown yeah i mean it was all of those things and they he's the shortest james bond i think he's like 5 10 which you can't tell also he'd kill every other james bond we've done a video of that we've done a video on it it's definitive i remember i had a uk friend tell me he didn't like him because he looks like a Polish plumber. You know, because he's not like, I guess, traditionally handsome. Do you know what I mean? I mean, he's better looking than 99% of people on the planet.
Starting point is 00:08:54 But yeah, people didn't like him. But I think very quickly, I think when the first footage came out of this and just the way he looks, the shape that he got into, it's like, calm down. This is actually going to be okay. When they did the, as Per mentioned, Ursula Andress emerging from the ocean at the beach in his little Speedos, I think people were like,
Starting point is 00:09:16 oh, like James Boner for James Bond, they said, the British press said. That's right. You know what's interesting about this movie? This Bond, he smiles more. Like he smiles an astounding amount in this movie and then never again for the rest of the series. Like when you rewatch this,
Starting point is 00:09:37 you realise that this particular storyline just broke whatever humanity he had left. Yeah, that's true. Because he's always, like he's smiling, he's being friendly to hotel you know, to hotel staff. He has a little laugh with people sometimes. He's not too grabby. I mean, he's a little bit grabby,
Starting point is 00:09:52 but not in the traditional James Bond sense. That's right. You know? I mean, again, he is awful. But, yeah, no, you're right. It kind of does a good job of just wringing out the last sense of happiness in this man, I guess until, you know, we get to Spectre, I guess, but I don't think it sells it as well as this does. How do you feel about the, the action in this?
Starting point is 00:10:10 I mean, it's, what's fascinating to me about it. I, I, sorry, I've stepped on your question that I asked, but here we go. Here's what I think. Hey, what do you think about this thing? Here's what I think. So, you know, I'll leave you two seconds at the end for counter arguments. A lot of, a lot of people, you of people who copy the Bourne formula of fighting, the Bourneula, they cross the line in terms of the camera operation
Starting point is 00:10:32 so you lose track of who's who. This doesn't do that. There's like, for example, a moment in a stairwell where they're just tumbling and fighting and you follow the action the entire time. That's great stuff. How do you feel about the action in this? You've got it's good that's good i reckon well is there any like particular moment that stood out like the parkour chase i mean the parkour chase through the
Starting point is 00:10:53 construction with that famous parkour guy yeah um i think yeah that that that sequence is great as my but i think you know there there are many great moments in and i think i i'm not alone in thinking one of them is the moment where the uh the bomb maker uh goes to shoot bond realizes he's out of bullets throws the gun and then bond catches it like it is literally nothing just he looks just like an exhausted man in an office who's been asked to repair the photocopier for like the third time this week and he's just like that's not even my job and then he just pitches it right in the guy's head it's so funny it's really funny and there's also a he just pitches it right into the guy's head. It's so funny. It's really funny. And there's also a moment in that where the parkour guy leaps a barrier
Starting point is 00:11:29 and then Bond just runs through it like an angry gorilla. He doesn't even know what's on the other side. Just goes, this is probably dry water. What is it? Could have been a pool full of sharks. He'll fight them. He doesn't care. That's exactly it.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Also, I love the part when they go to the Nambutu embassy and he just wrecks that diplomat. This pencil pusher just pulls a gun on him and he just wrecks him in like three ways in one second. It's so funny. It is funny. It's just like everybody's just doing their job. He just tears through like an escaped gorilla from the zoo.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah. Just throwing people about. I love it. There's also an action sequence in this, because I hadn't seen this in a while, that I'd completely forgotten, and that was the sequence at the airport. It goes for quite a long time.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Yep. And it has quite a satisfying ending where the bomb maker guy ends up destroying himself. And elicits another little smile from Bond, that absolute psychopath. He's loving it. He's never been happier. I think another thing this movie does well
Starting point is 00:12:32 is the inclusion of Vesper. I think with these characters of the Bond women, they'll bring them in and they just often, and not always, there are exceptions, they don't do much and they're and they're written weirdly and poorly and they're just kind of there to kind of betray bond which you know doesn't end up happening here or not yeah and but this there's a lot of like nuance here and there's and there's a lot of chemistry there's a lot of chemistry there's a lot of kind of more
Starting point is 00:13:00 naturalistic dialogue where like you know the later the later Brosnan-Bonds are just like, just a series of like pickup lines. Yeah. Just flying back and forth. But there's a moment where Bond and Vesper meet on the train and he just point blank stares her down. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret.
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Starting point is 00:14:22 You know? Oh, yeah. Just a stupid plan made by a stupid man. Just a plan for idiots. Well, let's talk about the plan because he wants to basically bankrupt Le Chiffre. He doesn't want to. He wants to murder everyone in the world. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:35 But they won't let him do that. The next best thing. The next best thing is they, MI6 want to bankrupt Le Chiffre so that he will sort of run into the waiting arms of MI6 want to bankrupt Le Chiffre so that he will sort of run into the waiting arms of MI6 and they can get all the information on his sort of terrorist clients. Which is Spectre. Not yet. Not yet.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Because of legal restrictions. Yeah, currently it is Unknown Terrorist Organization. Exactly. TBD. That's right. So that's fun. And I just think- The terrorist big dogs. That's what they were called. That's right. So that's fun. And I just think. The terrorist big dogs.
Starting point is 00:15:06 That's what they were called. That's what they were called. I just think it's also really bold to just go, fuck it. You're watching 40 minutes of poker. And to be fair, it's broken up with like fist fights and a heart attack, et cetera, and so forth. But, you know, they put in a card game and it absolutely works. And I think like Solo, for example, I think it kind of dabbled with this idea
Starting point is 00:15:25 but didn't quite commit to it. You know what I mean? Yeah, look, if I have one criticism of the movie Casino Royale. Is it that it's not Bacharach like the original book maybe was? No, I mean that's... Was it Bacharach? Yeah, it was. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I'm going to let the commenters critique your pronunciation of that. Is it pronounced Barack Obama? Yes. Okay. But I think it's just, you know, they used Texas Hold'em poker at the time because that was super hot at that moment. But I just feel like, I don't know, man. Is it the guy standing there at the back going, so who's got this card?
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah, that's exactly what it is, yeah. What if he has this card? And also everybody, and this is every James Bond movie, everybody always has the best cards in every hand, which is just very unlikely. Yeah, I mean, I could win with those cards if I just had the best cards. Yeah, but you wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:16:13 So I'd just be like, I'm panicking. Well, he's bleeding from his eye. What does that even mean? I shouldn't have beat this guy up at school. He's back. Yeah. So what's James Bond's tell? Does he just not have a tell?
Starting point is 00:16:25 I guess. He's just like an Easter Island statue, you know? Yeah. I guess his tell is... He's not murdering anybody currently at the table. Yeah. Also, once you give him a heart attack, all his, like, visible tics would just be all over the place.
Starting point is 00:16:38 You know what I mean? You don't know what's real and what's not. And that's something I actually wanted to talk about. He's a fragile man, despite being enormous. you see him at moments like tend to his wounds as mentioned he has that heart attack often you know torture and extreme like physical conditions are shrugged off by a james bond-esque character yeah like james bond for example in previous james bond movies sure and even like torture scenarios he's just like he's in a crisp tuxedo and a laser's coming towards him.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And he's like, I don't even need my balls or whatever. But this one. This guy needs his balls. But this, this torture sequence, my God, my God. It's all you need, man. You don't need a laser. No, you really don't. You don't need a.
Starting point is 00:17:21 You need the people's laser. A rope. A knotted rope. Yeah. You don't need a... You need the people's laser. A rope. A knotted rope. Yeah. You don't need a machine that drills into your memories or whatever. That's right. Yeah. Disappointing stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:32 But actually, I wanted to talk about specifically this torture because it was taken from the book, right? So it does, though, leave out a moment where Le Chiffre cuts Bond's back so he bleeds on the floor and rats are in a feeding frenzy underneath the chair. A bit much. Yeah, I think it is a bit much. I think there's enough going on in that room. You're focused on the naked man in the chair,
Starting point is 00:17:53 the guy with the bleeding eye, and the rope. It's all you really need at this point. That's right. It's a good movie, I think. Furious rats are just gilding the lily at this point. I also love that when Bond's drink is spiked, like it looks like just a low-budget student anti-drug PSA. It's just like everything's slightly out of focus.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It's just like, whoa, I'm freaking out, man. Whoa. But this little thing's like, you know, he grabs the salt and you know what I mean? And it's just... Just throw it over his shoulder for good luck. Yeah, it's for good luck. God, I hope I don't have a heart attack.
Starting point is 00:18:24 This will get me through. Are you ready for a license to trivia, Mason? Yeah, for sure. Have you got other things that you want to say? Look, miscellaneous notes. The absolute himbo that is Carter, you know, the guy, you know, at the outset. Oh, the guy who puts his hand to his ear.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Yeah, puts his hand up to his ear. Just a beautiful early 2000s man just working his way through MI6 somehow. I hope he's doing all right, that guy. Do you reckon that snake got him? Yeah. Good. Look, this will probably be – we'll save it for the trivia. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:18:55 No, chuck it in. Whatever. I've just got written here, nothing has ever looked more like a set than the construction yard set in Venice. Ah, yes. At the moment, unless that is real. No, I think they built a building to then sink or whatever. Yeah, pretty good stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Actually, there is something I wanted to ask you about. Is this the best-dressed Daniel Craig James Bond? Oh, good question. Because I know you have opinions about his tiny little suits, which we might save. I think it is personally just because the point of the literary Bond is that he is not so much expensively dressed as he is inconspicuously dressed.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Like of the era. Yeah, but also that he looks the way he does to blend in to an environment. Like he wears a suit or a tuxedo when he needs to and he wears casual clothes when he needs to. Like the reason Bond in the books wears a suit is because he's supposed to be a businessman in the 50s and 60s
Starting point is 00:19:46 and that's how they dressed. But I think that evolved into Bond's always the most fabulously dressed man in the room. Does he have a good watch? No, he's got the best watch. Actually. Lindy Hemming, who is the
Starting point is 00:20:01 costume designer of this movie, and I think every Bond movie from Goldeneye to this movie, she also did the costumes for the Nolan Batman movies, among other things. I think she does a great job in this movie as sort of setting that out. Yeah. Yeah, it's good. Got some good casual attire.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Yeah. But as the movies progress, his suits get smaller and smaller. Yeah. Maybe he gets bigger. Well, I mean, it's both. Yeah. It's a very dangerous Venn diagram is what's happening. All right, Mason, do you know what it's time for, though, isn't it? It's Licensed to Trivia 007 or something.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Nice. Daniel Craig quit smoking. I thought that was the whole piece of trivia. Daniel Craig. Oh, yes. There it is. Wow. Wait, do I have another thought about his wardrobe
Starting point is 00:20:45 ah I mean he has a suit that she's like that suit sucks and you look uncomfortable in it and then she gives him an even better suit
Starting point is 00:20:52 and he's like this is a good suit how did you know my measurements and she's like I don't know I'm amazing or whatever yeah that's pretty good
Starting point is 00:20:58 and a classic also a classic example of nominative determinism Lindy Hemming became a costume designer oh very good. Pretty fun, right? That is pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Right? My real last name is Average YouTube Videos. Not the editing, I just want to point out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ben and Lawrence, incredible. Licensed to trivia, 007 time, Mason. Daniel Craig, quit smoking. My real last name is sometimes I do half a joke
Starting point is 00:21:24 and then the video editors make it a full joke. That's my last name. I love it. Daniel Craig quit smoking to get into shape. Is he back on them now? Back on the gas? I don't think so. Because originally James Bond smoked 60 cigarettes a day.
Starting point is 00:21:38 This is interesting. Which is a lot, except when you consider that he's not real and he can really smoke as many as he wants. And it also was like the 50s. One smoked 500 cigarettes a day. And he lived for a million years. But he's a giant! And the British press are like,
Starting point is 00:21:55 Daniel Craig isn't smoking 500 cigarettes a day and he's a giant and he lived for a million years. More like James Blonde. So it's a bulk and mixture, his cigarettes. This is obviously from the books. Oh, yes. With a higher nicotine content than the cheaper varieties. Also, his average daily consumption of alcohol is in the region of half a bottle of spirits.
Starting point is 00:22:14 So that's just some fun stuff. Because a lot of the books are just like, anyway, he smoked this kind of cigarette. And then there'll just be a whole lot of information about that. What a wild world when you've got your own blend of cigarette tobacco, mate. Sure. Instead of just popping down the servo. Just get a pack of Winnie Reds. Pack of Durries, mate.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Spark them up. I forgot my lighter. Yeah. You'd never forget a lighter. He's just outside the Ocean Club being like, hey, mate, you got a spare cigarette? I've got to stop the international terrorist finance backer, Le Chiffre, all right, mate?
Starting point is 00:22:45 What can I do? Producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson I've got to stop the international terrorist finance backer, Le Chiffre, all right, mate? I don't know. Producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson didn't secure the rights to Casino Royale until 2000 when Sony exchanged them. All for, can I spoil this one? Spider-Man. That's right, Spider-Man. Who do you think got the better deal there?
Starting point is 00:23:00 Definitely Spider-Man. Yeah. 100%. I mean, it's Bond. It's huge. You can't really lose, really. Because what are they going to do with one Bond movie? It's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:08 One, you know, make another rip-off Casino Royale movie? Yes. Put all the... Steve Carell. Put Steve Carell. Why not? Steve Carell and bloody Seth Rogen. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Whatever that is. Who was hot in that era? Whoever's in old school. Yes. Only other actor, apparently, who was in serious contention though a bunch of names came up uh including hugh jackman who has since come out and said that he passed i don't know whether he was officially offered but he saw what they were doing with like the previous ones and he's like no thank you van housing is for me um are you going to do something different
Starting point is 00:23:38 and they're like haven't decided yet are you going to do something different than bad movies i'm not sure yet well I'll pass then. Yeah. It was Henry Cavill. But he was considered too young because he was only 22 at the time. So I feel like that would be more age appropriate because Eva Green at the time would have been 25. Makes more sense. Yep. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:23:57 It also broke a record for the most car barrel rolls in a film assisted by an air cannon. Oh. Did you know that? Did not know that. No, you didn't know that. Yeah. You're probably familiar with this, though.
Starting point is 00:24:07 When British Airways showed this movie on their airline, they blurred out the tail that showed Virgin Atlantic, the logo. So as not to offend virgins. Exactly. We were very upset at the time in theatres. No, that's not true, Mason. I've had sex before, and I may have had then. You want to get this video demonetized?
Starting point is 00:24:27 What are you doing? And they also cut the Richard Branson cameo, which you probably remember. Oh, yeah, because he gets frisked at the airport, sure. He does, yeah. But that guy's actually never been through a metal detector because he doesn't need to. Here's something interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:39 So Casino Royale, you probably know this, it was called that in France, but in the US it's known as Casino Quarter Pounder with Juice. There we go. I knew where you were going. I've done it. You did it. Terrific stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Here's a real one. Sir Roger Moore was... Well, now I'm doubting any of these, honestly. Sir Roger Moore was reportedly so impressed with this movie that he went out and bought a DVD of it. Like a bootleg? Yeah. You know one of those dudes with like a suitcase filled with,
Starting point is 00:25:05 yeah, that's right. Just, just, they're all on VCDs. Yeah, we went to the Camden markets. He got himself a copy of Casino Royale. That's just one that was filmed in the theaters. You're going to see this in the theaters, Roger? No, no, definitely not. Uh, this one I enjoy because I think it speaks to James Bond as a character. So during the showdown of the final hand of the poker game, James Bond does not reveal his cards until all the other players have shown their hands, even though he knows that he holds the best possible hand in this situation.
Starting point is 00:25:32 So he intentionally waited to rub it in, right, and this has got an official title in poker called the slow roll. And whilst it's not against the rules, it's considered very bad etiquette and would be critiqued harshly in a real world game because he's a dog, because he's a bad guy. But I mean, the alternative is he kills you all. So, you know, which one are you going to take? What do you do?
Starting point is 00:25:58 Right. And you probably know this because Pierce Brosnan revealed it in a Q&A in 2020. He actually met with Quentin Tarantino about doing a Casino Royale movie set in the 60s, a period piece Bond film. And when was he approached? This was after Die Another Day, or it might have been around that era, when he was still involved in the franchise. So he said like that, a bunch of drinks together and then nothing ever came of it.
Starting point is 00:26:25 So there you go. Yeah. Well, well. Anyway, the video game will go here. Great. Great. Here's a couple of fun facts. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I've got a renewed love for Sony Ericsson products. So that's always good. I love searching on my Sony VAIO. Oh, yeah? Yeah, using my... Are you going to be searching that landfill for that Sony VAIO? You better believe I am. It's right near the ocean club uh and i think the the guy who's we'll get comments so i feel i should mention it uh the guy with the gold range rover that uh that bond backs into uh a parking spot and crashes yeah uh that's that's supposed to be auric goldfinger
Starting point is 00:27:00 or at least a reference to him well i'm to edit this out so we get the comments. Oh my God, James. Also, original car. We see it. We see his original car, don't we? Yeah. I have thoughts about that. We'll talk about it another week.
Starting point is 00:27:13 How many 1964 Silver Aston Mons are in this universe? At least two? Maybe. We'll talk about it. Yeah. We'll have to talk about it. Anyways, the video game's going to go here, isn't it, Mason? Because one has gadgets and one presumably doesn't have gadgets. Look, I've got a lot of thoughts. We'll get notes. We'll make a to talk about it. Anyways, the video game's going to go here, isn't it, Mason? Because one has gadgets and one presumably doesn't have gadgets.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Look, I've got a lot of gadgets. We'll get notes. We'll make a separate video about it. We will. If we're talking about Casano Rao, we need to obviously get into one of the key aspects of the Daniel Craig Bond series. He's famous for it.
Starting point is 00:27:40 What's he famous for? He's famous for two things. Little briefs. Three things. But in addition to that, going rogue and then retiring from the spy game altogether. It's true. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:53 But is it every movie? We're going to have to find out, aren't we? Does he go rogue in this movie? Hell yeah. Almost immediately after becoming a double O. He's like, what are they going to do? I'll kill them. Yeah. And then he does a little bit of work for them, obviously. Collects a paycheck. That's right.
Starting point is 00:28:09 He probably waited until Thursday when it's cleared. That's exactly right, yeah. And then he's like, I tender my resignation. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, but how does he go rogue in this one? He? They're like, you're not getting any more money, James Bond.
Starting point is 00:28:20 They're like, go on vacation. And he's like, definitely go on vacation. I'm going to go on vacation so hard. I'm going to go on so many vacations. There's going to be so many explosions. But then it's kind of a working vacation. You know what I mean? Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Yeah, yeah. And then they're not going to give him any more money, remember? That's right. So he's just doing what he wants. And that's what I love about this character. He's complete disregard for really anything or anyone. Except killing people. He loves it.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Yeah, he's got a lot of regard for that. But then, of course, he does retire. Yes. He falls in love with Vesper Lind. Yep. And he's like, I'll put in a good four or five days in the job. I'm probably due for long service leave. I think so.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I'll take that. And I'll take my, they can pay me out and I'm done. That's exactly it. But, of course, they're not going to let him retire, are they? They can't. They can't. Yeah. Maybe if you retire before a certain date,
Starting point is 00:29:13 you have to pay for all the bullets you used or something like that. You have to pay for all the equipment. And he's like, oh, I've got to come back. I can't have this hanging over me. It's like a student loan. Yeah. Anyways, this has been Caravan of Garbage. You're not going to believe how many times we do this a week.
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