The Weekly Planet - Catwoman - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: March 10, 2022

We're kicking off this new batch of Caravan Of Garbage which we're going to refer to as the DC Graveyard. A failed batch of comic book propeties that were set to kick of a franchise or at the very le...ast a sequel that ended up bombing either critically, commercially or both. First up is Catwoman 2004 an abysmal effort despite the best efforts of one Halle Berry. How did this happen? Who's the say. But it did and it's extremely baffling scene to scene. Thanks for listening!Video Edition â–º https://youtu.be/QZ2_veR6MzYHelp support the show and get early episodes â–º https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link â–º https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Well, everybody, we promised you something big and hot and DC-related off the back of the Batman. So what we're delving into for the next four weeks on Caravan of Garbage is something that we like to refer to as the DC graveyard.
Starting point is 00:00:45 What's that, Mason? It's bad DC movies. Yeah. 90s, early 2000s. Well, we did steal, so we've done that one. Oh, that's true, yeah. But, well, jump right into that big, dark, slimy pit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Also, I should point out that this isn't like a DC exclusive thing. I'm sure a lot of people will be like, well, actually, Marvel made a bad movie. Did you see? They've made a bad... Yeah, we know. We know. We saw Nick Fury. We talked about it. We did all the Fantastic Four movies. We know. Get off our backs! But there's definitely more that we could
Starting point is 00:01:12 get to. Leave a like if you could because we're kicking things off with Catwoman 2004. And do you know why I consider this movie a seminal movie for both of us, Mason? Oh, I know why, but explain, please. So, people might not know this unless they listen to our podcast the weekly planet but between the years uh probably about
Starting point is 00:01:29 2002 to 2010 we saw literally every movie every movie that came out of the cinemas we saw paycheck yeah we saw the payback payback i think that was before that was before that's a pretty good movie we saw the movie gabriel which we were talking about just before. Oh, my God. The Australian-made weird angelic Matrix ripoff Gabriel. Yes, please. But the one movie that I remember you specifically putting your foot down on was Catwoman.
Starting point is 00:01:56 You might say that movie gave me paws. Little cat paws. That's very good. That's great. Why didn't they use that in this? They used a bunch of other cat puns didn't they? Yeah. Or they just say cat something something. Maybe what happened is
Starting point is 00:02:09 they did some audience focus testing and at a certain point people just started leaving the theatre. So they were like cut it down a little bit. So yeah, that's fun to actually revisit this. Not revisit this, sorry. So that's fun actually to visit this for the first time.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Had you seen this before? I had not seen it before, no. Wow. This has remained untouched. This is a real... Yeah. This is a real... What a moment in time and not a good one.
Starting point is 00:02:36 It's a real archaeological dig which fits because there's a big long opening sequence, a big title sequence where it's like cats in history. What are they about? Do they know stuff? Magical stuff? Let's find out. long opening sequence, a big title sequence where it's like, cats in history, what are they about? Do they know stuff? Magical stuff? Let's find out. At least one of them knows some stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Magical stuff? Yeah, that's right. Would you like a bit of background, though, in terms of how we got to this movie? Yes, please. This is sort of a fantastic tale, excuse the pun, but I actually meant dog tale, so that didn't actually work then. People might have picked up on that. I was thinking about duck tales, but all right.
Starting point is 00:03:04 So this actually started as a Tim Burton spin-off which he was going to direct just a spin-off of Tim Burton's life that's right exactly yeah too many cat women in his life and he wanted to get them onto the big screen ah yeah so I guess he wasn't gonna do you know what they say hell in a bottom car to a wife hell in a bottom car to life that's what they say what they say she's not in this no to a wife, hell in a bottom car to life. That's what they say. That's what they say. She's not in this. No.
Starting point is 00:03:26 So what actually happened is, so he was supposed to do a version of Batman Forever. He had his own version, which he ended up leaving, and Keaton left. It's a whole thing. I've got a video on it. But the same day that Batman Forever was released, he turned in his script for this. Sorry, not this. His version of this. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yes, right. With Michelle Pfeiffer. Which would have been spookier, I imagine. Exactly. And the studio were like, this is not the direction that we're going. And no, fuck off. Actually, do Superman for us, please.
Starting point is 00:03:54 But fuck off with this. You know what? Fuck off with Superman as well. You're not doing anything. So Michelle Pfeiffer actually also had the option to return and declined this role in like multiple times, including the last. No. No.
Starting point is 00:04:11 No. Do I have to have children to have a reason to say no to this? Can I just not say no? Well, I'm having some kids. That actually did happen. So it ended up in 2001, Ashley Judd came on board, which I think would have been great. Nicole Kidman was also considered, who was, of course, in Batman Forever.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Warner Brothers actually then ended up cancelling a version of Batman v Superman in 2004. We actually have an animation of that by the wonderful Sean Willits. If people want to check that out, it's really cool. And Warner Brothers were like, we need something before Batman begins. We have nothing. What if we set a Catwoman movie in an entirely CGI city for no reason? Yeah. Just it's all CGI.
Starting point is 00:05:00 But also, it's a Tim Burton Batman spinoff because there's a picture of Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman in this movie. So technically, this is, well, until The Flash, the last time we saw the Burton DC universe. But it was in, it wasn't on TV. It was on TV. Shut up. I didn't watch it. But I know it was on TV. Anyway, so the director of this, Patov, said. Just the one name.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Like Madonna. He's got other names, but that's what he's known as. He's got other names, Mason. He said, I checked out to see how Catwoman is treated in the comics to make sure that our Catwoman was in the same vein, but I didn't want to be too influenced by the comic book. Great choice there. Because the whole point of the movie is to be first a movie
Starting point is 00:05:36 and to be different. And it certainly is, wouldn't you say? I mean... In the way that it looks like a cancelled TV pilot from the early 90s. It really does. But what's interesting is he's gone, we want to be completely different, but we're going to just use Michelle Pfeiffer's version of Catwoman?
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah. She's just going to be like a meek, clumsy wallflower again. Who gets murdered again. Who gets murdered again. She gets jokified. She gets her joker out. She has to swim through a sewer pipe. You might be wondering how I got here.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Then a cat just does a big hairball in her mouth, I assume. No, it was a big breath. All right, fine. It was a big magic cat breath. No. And then she gets the daredevil of sorts powers, or the Spider-Man powers. This movie is...
Starting point is 00:06:17 The zoom-in powers. Oh, my God. First of all, there's so many weird crash zooms and, like, music video, just weird angles and stuff in this. Motorbike riding but this obviously this came out the year this came out shortly after daredevil yeah and uh same year as spider-man 2 it's so daredevil this yeah isn't it just they're like can we make daredevil but weirder and hornier can we do that maybe yeah and they did they absolutely did it and look i
Starting point is 00:06:39 will say this of hallie berry i love hallie berry yeah i think she'd be a great cat woman i think they made a Catwoman movie about the actual character of Catwoman. I mean, we'll talk a bit about the fallout from this, but look- Razzie award-winning. Razzie award-winning. That's how it's promoted on the streaming service
Starting point is 00:06:53 that I watch them on. It makes sense. But I think the physicality, she's obviously got down pat. She learned how to crack a whip. She did a lot of the stunts, not all of them, obviously. It was also said that she might have played Catwoman in Darren Aronofsky's
Starting point is 00:07:06 Batman cancelled year one movie, which I think would have been a much better fit. I think they shouldn't have called it Batman cancelled year one movie. Really put a dampener on it. It's probably why it got cancelled, honestly. That might have been it. Yeah, I think she would have been good. She is an Oscar winner after all.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Yeah, this same year. And Sharon Stone is an Oscar nominee. Two big winners in this. And Sharon Stone is an Oscar nominee. Two big winners in this. And that French guy was in The Matrix. Oh my god. This movie has the Merovingian. It has Lois from Family Guy. Lois Griffin. It's got Peter
Starting point is 00:07:37 Wingfield of Highlander the Series and those weird British Sega ads from the 90s. Who's he? Who's a real doctor now. Did you know that? He became a doctor. For Winfield cigarettes? Yes. He's promoting Wingfield cigarettes, his own brand of Wingfield cigarettes. Oh, Wingfield.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Yeah, Wingfield. Yeah, why not? Yeah. Yeah, it's just bizarre. And look, I guess we could talk about the look that they went for here because the costume is actually by Angus Strathy, who did Strictly Ballroom, did Moulin Rouge. In other comic book news, he did a bunch of stuff in Deadpool.
Starting point is 00:08:11 So clearly not without talent. And the first costume she wears with the mask. I think that's the best one. That's probably where you should have stopped this. I mean, look, it's not great, but it's better than what they end up with. It's a little bit Birds of Prey, TV series Birds of Prey. Very much so. But, yeah, no, I think the final one is like,
Starting point is 00:08:32 did you need the cutouts on your butt? Yeah, exactly. It's barely a costume. Exposed midriff is not good for fighting crime or doing crime or whatever you're doing in this. It's kind of vague. Look, the thing about this movie is she's not, like I said, it's weird that they didn't they it's weird that they didn't go selena kyle is a woman who was
Starting point is 00:08:50 raised you know she she had a rough upbringing in the streets of gotham city and she becomes the world's greatest cat burglar and it's you know it's just a just a great story of cool fun heist stuff and she's coming up against you know big hitters of the dc villain world or whatever and is she a bit like to be to look at that and be like, that's not interesting. I think if we're doing a female superhero story, she should be fighting some sort of cosmetics crime. Yeah, because of women, I get it.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Because she's a girl. We should talk about the villains. So there's a big fake out because you think the bad guy is the Merovingian. I mean, never at any point. But the movie kind of is set up that way, even though we see that it's clearly Sharon Stone. And they're releasing a face cream to the public that a few people have already been trying.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And if you put it on, it's fine initially. But if you stop... It's on fleek. It's on fleek, thank you. If you stop, it scars your face horribly. But if you put enough of it on, you become some sort of marble skin supervillain. Sparkly vampire skin.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Oh my God, it's back. It's back. We thought we were out, but they've dragged us back in. And that's the way they're able to have them be a match for each other at the end with Sharon Stone and Catwoman, because Catwoman has cat powers of sorts. Sharon Stone is a marble woman. That means enough people who use the cream in the future
Starting point is 00:10:07 would also become marble creatures it's really strange and also the idea that normally it's almost like they didn't think this script all the way through to its logical conclusion but if you just went it's almost like us trying to do that it's stupid in and of itself
Starting point is 00:10:20 but if you just went and I guess the Burton universe is a little bit fantastical what they do with Catwoman but if you traditionally went with and I guess the Burton universe is a little bit fantastical what they do with Catwoman. But if you traditionally went with the athletic cat burglar person goes up against another athletic person, then that's... You don't have to give them both strange powers. No, that's true. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:38 They don't make any sense. Anyway, she's from a lineage of cat women. Oh, yeah. The catnip scene's great after she's getting explained. She does a lot of little cat stuff where, like, she eats, like, nine tins of cat food and things like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the kind of point where I'm like.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Benjamin Bratt's like, oh, do you want to come in? Oh, you want to come in? Oh, now you want to go out again? But that's the thing. For God's sakes, patience. But she's not. I just let you in. It just.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Oh, now you want to come back in again. All right, great. She's not literally supposed to be a cat. Right. So I don't understand. Like, Batman isn't a bat. You know what I mean? Man bat is a bat.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Man bat is definitely a bat. I think it's a man bat. Yeah, that's right. Bats are actually bats. I did like the scene where she's trying to figure out what's going on, you know, in her mind and her body and her Karen haircut transformation. Oh, I have written Karen haircut here. That's the most peak Karen haircut I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Is this the origin of the Karen haircut? I absolutely think that is, but she pulls it off because she doesn't have the Karen attitude. That's very true, yeah. Anyway, so the scene where she's trying to work out what's going on and she Googles cats women,
Starting point is 00:11:40 the cat in history, very good, diabolical cats. Yes. I would have written, I would have typed, can cats give you magical powers? Question mark. Question mark. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And it's interesting because she keeps finding a picture of the cat that gave her cat powers and she's like, that's the same cat. Sure. Yeah, but cats, like a lot of cats look the same, you know? That would be the conclusion that I would draw. Yeah, but you're a cat racist, so. That's a great point, Mason. I am a cat racist.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Here's a question for you, though. Go on. Do you like basketball, Mason? I love basketball and I love horny basketball. The thing of it is, again, I think they went, I don't know if the timeframe gives them enough time to rip off Daredevil, but again, I think they went, we had that fun playground meet cute. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:27 In Daredevil. And that got some real life sparks flying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's do it again with basketball. But this. Yeah, but this. And it works perfectly, I would say. As far as movie scenes go, people were there on the day and they made it happen.
Starting point is 00:12:40 That's right. Yeah. I mean, they have to have. Otherwise, how would we be seeing it? Oh, pure CGI. Maybe most of it was CGI That's right, yeah. I mean, they have to have. Otherwise, how would we be seeing it? Pure CGI. Maybe most of it was CGI. I don't know. On May 10th,
Starting point is 00:12:52 Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is coming to IMAX and theatres everywhere. What a wonderful day! This summer, one movie event will reign. It is our time. Apes hunt humans. That is wrong. Bend for your king.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Never. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Only in theaters May 10th. Tickets on sale now. I don't know. Well, there's a few little outdoor action sequences. It's not the worst thing in the movie. I can't off the top of my head think of a worse thing in the movie,
Starting point is 00:13:31 but I think there is another one. So what did you think about the Ferris wheel rescue, I guess, if we're talking daytime action sequences? Also, what kind of mother lets their child go on a ride by themselves? What was she doing? What's going on there? Yeah, great question. Good thing Benjamin Bratt is a Ferris wheel expert or something.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Isn't he just? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a Ferris wheel base jumper in his spare time. He pulls the chute just right before he gets to the surly attendant who isn't paying attention. So, yeah, he's in this and they meet because he's like, this woman's trying to kill herself. But she was rescuing a cat.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And I, for a second, thought that is he, does he have powers? Because the way that he gets from the ground level to her window, it's like three seconds. He flew up those stairs. He's a brat man, perhaps. I don't know what's going on there. James, I'm looking at your computer. You only have one note and it says brat man.
Starting point is 00:14:23 And then a little picture of like a celebrating horn just going off just one of those little emojis we get it you're proud of it you should be it's the best joke anyone's ever made thank you um are you familiar with uh graphology is it a is it a completely debunked science there's a lot of great science in this there's there's not only is there handwriting analysis science, which is not the exact science as they say, in the sense that it's not a science at all. But I bet people have gone to jail for it in real life.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Oh, definitely. It's like craniology was a thing where you could measure people's skulls to determine how intelligent they were. But not only that, this movie also has, and it's the thing that undoes Patience Phillips, it reveals her as Catwoman. The crime lab of this entirely cgi city also has lip match forensics lip match you can just take a photo of a big kissy yeah compare it to a picture of another kissy
Starting point is 00:15:18 it's like that's a 99.9 match is that a um do you think lips have fingerprints? Lip, lip, lip. I don't have a pun for that. I wish I had something like Bratman, but I don't for this. Anyway, if you know, I'd love to know. I love her also with, just to quickly get back to the graphology. It's like, well, this letter says that she's lonely. Or this one says that she doesn't play by the rules. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Yeah, this is nothing. Like this thing that you're doing is nothing. This is horoscopes for lab techs, I think. Get out of here. Get out of here. You are fired if you are applying any of this to your actual work. Yeah. Unless you're putting away people we don't like,
Starting point is 00:15:57 in which case you're getting a promotion. That's right. So at the end, I mean, the Merovingian is killed, right? Yeah, sure, sure, sure. And it's pinned on the Catwoman. Luckily she's able to T-1000 both out and presumably back into her cell. Sure, yeah. Has the T-1000 scene ever been done better?
Starting point is 00:16:13 No, not even in Terminator 2. That's true. As soon as I watched this, I snapped my DVD copy of Terminator 2 and a half. Never watching that again. What a waste. But I have a question for you in terms of like sharon stone's like long-term plan okay what you mean the actor sharon stone you know she's still working she's still doing stuff she wrote a book recently but sorry i mean the actor no i don't
Starting point is 00:16:36 mean the actor i mean as in the character whatever her name is what what what's the plan let me think okay so it's everybody uses the the product yeah because it's addictive but it also works yep and then well it works in terms of like it gives you a very shiny base app like early 2000s filter but also sometimes if you use too much of it you go you end up in hospitals yeah because it gives you migraines. But it didn't work on Sharon Stone. She got turned into a marble woman. She took it to the extreme, I guess. She broke through. But if you stop using it, your face melts off.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Turning people into monsters. Oh, yuck, imagine having bad skin. What a monster. The worst. But even like, you know, what happened to Lois Griffin? Did her face like rot off? Great question, right? Well, we don't, because there was no Catwoman 2.
Starting point is 00:17:28 That's right. Maybe she becomes, maybe in Catwoman 2, she becomes Catwoman Universe Two-Face. Right? Catface. Because she was only doing one side of her face with the stuff. I love that. I love that idea, Mason.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Anyway, they have a fight at the end, and that's good. Who's they? Sharon Stone and Halle Berry, yeah. Also, I should point out, like, this isn't, they have a fight at the end, and that's good. Who's they? Sharon Stone and Halle Berry, yeah. Also, I should point out, like, this is a different, this is Patience Phillips. Yes, it's not Selina Carly. Yeah. Boo on that one, I guess.
Starting point is 00:17:53 But also, thank you for not doing the other version, I guess. Not that it matters, really, does it? Because everything's made up, and who gives a shit? But I really enjoyed a couple of things at the end. First of all, the way that Sharon Stone fucking pinwheels out of that window. My God. She does like 100 cartwheels before she hits the ground. What I liked about that.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Also, she should have shattered. If she was made of marble, she should have shattered. But didn't she fall into a big. There was glass around her and it looks kind of like that. I don't like that. You know what I did like is that when she was about to fall to her doom, Patience Phillips Catwoman is like, I'll help you. She puts out her hands to help her.
Starting point is 00:18:30 But, like, you definitely killed a guy early on. I heard his neck break. Yeah, you did that. Just let her die as well. What are you doing? And at the end, yeah. She's the worst one. You just killed a security guard is what you did.
Starting point is 00:18:42 You killed a guy. Yeah. And his family would be like, oh, oh, he's been working late tonight, hasn't he? Yeah. Oh, he's dead. He's dead. The Catwoman killed him.
Starting point is 00:18:51 That was the other thing I was going to say because she says at the end, I might not be a hero, but I'm certainly not a killer. Incorrect. Yeah, you are. You're a big killer. Anyway, it's time for Catwivia. I mean, I have one piece of Catwivia just beforehand. You go into that.
Starting point is 00:19:06 It's just... Just a thought? Just a thought I had. The mask she wears gives her a really tall head. Think about that. A big tall head. Oh, it's to cover the Karen haircut. You can't squash down the Karen haircut.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Like that domino mask initially? Much better. Much better. But she doesn't steal. Or she does? I don't know. She did, but then she didn't. She put the mask because they're like okay well what what clearly pithol was like well what what do we what's some cat woman stuff oh she steals jewelry yeah okay we'll do that oh wait is that from the
Starting point is 00:19:35 comics oh it is well we'll put it we'll have her putting back jewelry because we already filmed the scene i'm reading the comics as i'm making this film. Anyway, to our continue on with Catwivia. Get into that Catwivia. A rough cut of the trailer was put online a few months before the film's release and drew such heavy criticism that it was quickly pulled. It was soon replaced with a new trailer which didn't feature any dialogue.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I remember that because we saw every movie Mason. Yeah, that's right. This movie features both Sharon Stone and Benjamin Bratt. Bratt was considered by producers for the male lead role in Basic Instinct 2 in 2006. Even more basic. That's right. But Sharon Stone allegedly vetoed his casting. Because he wasn't basic enough.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Well, because she did not consider him to be a good enough actor. Was there a Basic Instinct 2? Yeah, there was. She was in it. She was in it, yeah. It wasn't a direct-to-DVD situation. No, I went to cinemas, yeah. That's kind of like, that's mean to be like,
Starting point is 00:20:30 no, you were in this terrible movie with me and I was terrible in it, but you know what? You were terrible. That's got to be how I judge you. Did she not believe the chemistry of super handsome Benjamin Bratt falling in love with his absolute just dormouse Halle Berry? Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Do you remember that? Yuck. Look at her wearing a big sweater. Yuck. God. Gross. In a pre-Karen haircut? My God.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And the last bit of Catwivia, Halle Berry became one of only six actors in history, only five at the time, to possess both an Oscar and a Razzie. After her win for her infamous performance in the movie, she also became the first to accept their Razzie in person, walking on stage, proudly holding both Oscar and Razzie aloft and feigning tears of joy.
Starting point is 00:21:11 She gave a short acceptance speech. I'd like to thank Warner Brothers for making me do this god-awful piece of shit movie. But also, like, fuck the Razzies. I mean, we criticise things here on a weekly basis. But the Razzies is just so like yeah just fuck you shut up fuck everybody at the razzie should have just held up the oscar and been like just have a look at yourselves all of you yeah exactly just stupid you know it's been gone like since at least the
Starting point is 00:21:35 80s i didn't realize it would have been around that long anyway fuck the razzies um anyway budget mason okay this only cost if you can believe it, $100 million. Whoa. I mean, that's crazy because this doesn't look like. Again, it looks like a TV pilot. It looks so much like, and we've covered it before, the TV series Birds of Prey, the Batman universe TV series with no Batman. It looks worse than that Wonder Woman pilot that we also watched and have a video on.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah. And here's the other thing. Was that also cosmetic based and have a video on. Yeah. And here's the other thing. And that was also, was that also cosmetic based? It was cosmetic based. That was also like, Wonder Woman should probably fight some beauty related crimes. Women aren't going to, no. And then she's got to sit on the couch and eat ice cream.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Check out that video if you could. So this is, this is incredible. This movie, as mentioned, cost $100 million. $100 million. The Batman 2022 cost $100 million. $100 million. The Batman 2022 cost $100 million. Whoa. What? Because that's like $100 million in 2004,
Starting point is 00:22:34 which is $110 million now or something else, isn't it? It's more. It's more money. Somebody whoever's editing this can probably do that inflation calculator thing. Lawrence is doing this one Thank you Lawrence Speaking of Lawrence Get ready for this
Starting point is 00:22:48 Something depressing New segment of the show Just something depressing to end on About Lawrence? No no he's fine I hope Okay great I hope so Lawrence you're fired
Starting point is 00:22:57 This is your last video But finish it Yeah yeah No Lawrence you're wonderful So Catwoman was the highest grossing female led superhero film until the release of Wonder Woman
Starting point is 00:23:09 in 2017 the pilot? no no the TV pilot? when they did a cinema release of it? no so this Catwoman only made
Starting point is 00:23:17 80 million so big bomb yeah wow but still like and look I know and that would have killed female led quote unquote
Starting point is 00:23:24 superhero movies for a decade. I mean, there was this and there was, like, Elektra and there might have been some others. But I think they use movies like this and Elektra as an excuse to go, people don't see these. Yeah, but this is terrible. We didn't see it and we saw everything.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And you know what they say? When James and Maiso from 2004 or whatever, when they don't like something, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Here's some movies that came out in 2004. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:23:54 We saw The Village, didn't we? Maybe. I don't know. We saw The Butterfly Effect. Oh, Ashton Kutcher, is he in that? That's right. Whoa, nice. We saw the movie Walking Tall.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Oh, the rock's in that. He's got a big two-by-four. He gets out of his truck and they're like, there's no way you'll hit me with that two-by-four. But he does. I'm going to hit you. Whoa. I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Night Watch. We saw Night Watch, Mason. Yeah, oh my God. Jersey Girl. We saw Jersey Girl. We saw the movie Taking Lives with Angelina Jolie. She loved it. We saw King of...
Starting point is 00:24:24 She paid for our tickets. We saw Man on Fire. Man on Fire was great, though. We saw Dawn of the Dead. Good movie. We saw King Arthur. We saw that King Arthur remake. Which one?
Starting point is 00:24:35 There's been a hundred King Arthur remakes. We saw The Phantom of the Opera. We saw the movie Cellular. I kind of like that movie. I kind of like that movie. It's like Speed. Chris Evans is in that. Exactly. We saw the movie Troy, which like the movie. It's like Speed. Chris Evans, isn't that? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:45 We saw the movie Troy, which some people like. So there you go. Big year for Jolie-Pitt. It's true. I think also, did Alexander come out that year? He probably also saw some stuff on DVD or maybe still VHS. Maybe there was still stuff coming out on VHS. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Maybe he saw some stuff on VCD. That's right. That's right. That's right. And people might want to know what's coming up next week. You know what I mean? For the DC bargain bid. Whatever we name this. I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:25:12 DC Trashiverse. Anyway, here's a hint. Oh. It's Constantine Mason. Oh. It's actually a good one. That's pretty good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Did that do well? We'll find out next week, I guess. No, not particularly. I think it did okay. Actually looking forward to that one. Absolutely. Me too. Who knew one absolutely who knew who knew after this and five weeks of twilight movies here's the thing though like if you've got something you'd like to suggest for the for the dc bargain biniverse whatever the thing is that we're calling it please let us know what you'd like to see uh say pooniverse that's right because we've the Pooniverse. No, no, no. That's rude.
Starting point is 00:25:47 As in P-O-O dash-niverse. Also, if you'd like to see any of these early, guess what you can. Head over to BigSandwich.co because they go up there early every week. And on top of that, we also have bonus podcasts there. We have movie commentaries there. We do a bunch of cool stuff that's exclusive there. It's like our Patreon. Cartwheels.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Catwoman-style cartwheels. Sharon Stone-style cartwheels out a window to our death. Sometimes there's just a video of us and we're on a Ferris wheel. We're on a big Ferris wheel. I'm having a nice time. Also, our podcast, The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows, that comes out there Sunday as opposed to Monday. And, of course, yes, we have done an episode on the Batman, which just,
Starting point is 00:26:27 you know, I mean, it's yeah, obviously it's better, but we talk more about it. Don't we base it. I mean, we sure do.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yes. Yes. We don't leave it at that. We don't go, Hey everyone, welcome to the show. Anyway, the Batman 2022 is better than the movie cat woman,
Starting point is 00:26:42 2004. Good night, everyone. Even though they cost the same. Yeah. Okay, I'm at MrSundayMovies on Twitter. I'm at WikipediaBrown on Twitter. Thanks, everybody, for watching.
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