The Weekly Planet - Dick Tracy - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: September 14, 2023

For this next series of Caravan Of Garbage reviews we're taking a look at a five classic comic book propeties that were adapted into underperforming or underwhelming movies. This week we're kicking things off with 1990's Dick Tracey. Directed by and starring Warren Beatty it takes the pulp detective and pits him in a bizarre comic book page universe. Also starring Madonna, Al Pacino, Dustin Hoffman, James Cann and a whole lot more you'd think more people would remember this. But they don't. Thanks for watching!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/OMgmsHnH7s8Help support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome back, everybody, to Caravan of Garbage, where we're going to do something a little bit unique, but not really that unique, because it's very much in the purview of this channel and series, Mason. And also other people have done videos on it. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe better? Who knows?

That's not for us to say, but yes. Absolutely, yes. So what we're going to be looking at is a series of movies which are based on older comic strips. They're kind of pulp action heroes. Pulp-ish. Pulp-ish. Like a bad glass of orange juice.

Pulp-ish? Yeah, pulp-ish. We were trying to find like a term. Like a bad glass of orange juice. Pulp-ish. Yeah, pulp-ish. We were trying to find like a term. Like a glass of orange juice after you've brushed your teeth. Oh, this is pulp-ish. I hate it. We were trying to kind of pinpoint what it is about this particular set of movies. Like under what umbrella they fit under.

They're characters that all sort of debuted around the 30s, except for one of them, which is modern, but they have the sheen of being an old school character. Some of them are comic strip characters. Some of them are like radio play characters. Yeah. But we came to the conclusion, well, you thought of this, that you just know it when you see it.

And you're not interested in watching it, primarily. You're like, I don't know. It's kind of like a thing that I like. It's kind of like Spider-Man, but not as good as Spider-Man. Yeah, exactly. But anyway, we're going to watch them so you don't have to. That's right. That's our catchphrase.

That is. That's ours. Yep. So we're kicking things off. With a bang. With a bang. A bang, bang, bang. Very much so.

As if from a Thompson gun. That would be more of a rat-a-tat-a-tat. Oh, yes, absolutely. Yeah. A pfft. A wetter. A pfft. A wetter. Pfft. Very much so. As if from a Thompson gun. That would be more of a rat-a-tat-a-tat. Oh, yes, absolutely, yeah. Oh, pfft. Wait a, oh, pfft. Wait a, pfft. Perfect. Yeah.

Keep the best one of those for the video version, I think. So we're going with Dick Tracy from 1990. And I guess if there was one thing, one positive thing I could say about this movie is that I love a big, weird swing at something. That's true, yeah. And this is one of the biggest, weirdest swings you could have. Absolutely. And the thing about it as well is...

Oh, yeah, leave a like. Oh, yeah, yeah. The thing about it being a huge... Because we hate these. So leave us a like. If you could, please. It's the absolute least you can do. No, that's not it.

Otherwise, we'll find out where you live, we'll go to your house, and we'll make you watch these movies. That's right. We'll do a little fun little marathon slash hostage situation at your house. We don't really hate them. No, no, no.

The best part about taking a big swing at this particular character is nobody remembers who he is. Yeah. For good reasons. We'll talk about it later. But also what I think has happened here, and I think it's the same thing that happens sort of in the modern era, is that somebody who loved a character or a series

or a movie back in the day or a toy or something like that has has come to adulthood and has gotten into the movie industry and is like you know what i think kids would like that thing that i liked when i was a kid yeah like a barbie or a transformers or a gi joe and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't snake eyes you know what i mean such as the snake eyes is going to be in these videos as well just so people know you know it when you see it but i that's the case i believe for warren baity yeah academy award winning big time celebrity because why would he do this well yeah so apparently he learned to read yeah through dick tracy comics i hope also some formal education but but according to him, reading Dick Tracy comic strips in the newspaper. And, you know, why not?

Kid's looking for a bit of excitement and he's a square-jawed, two-fisted detective and that's basically it. That is basically it, yeah. That's pretty much it. I love when a star or a director, they get to a point where they go to the studio and they go, I'm going to make this thing and it's not going to make any money. And the studio has to go, all right.

Yeah, well, before this, he did two things. Speaking of swings, he did a movie called Reds, which is about the first Russian revolution. He won an Academy Award for that. And then he was in the movie Ishtar, which everyone hates. Yep. On the balance of Hollywood juice, he had enough to be like, I'm going to make this. But yes. Like he was Bonnie or Clyde.

Yes, that's right. He was one of the biggest stars of his era. If you weren't alive in that era, and we weren't, it's kind of hard to comprehend. But, you know, he was, who's the equivalent? He was the Vinnie Chase of his era. Absolutely, that's right. And so, yes, I mean, look, the very short history of this character

on the big screen, he'd had some black and white serials back in the day. Radio plays, probably. Yeah, almost certainly that. We cannot confirm or deny. But most famously, a long-running comic strip. Absolutely. Never really made the jump to comic book. Occasionally, you know.

But often a collection of strips. A compendium. A compendium. A compendium. Oh, great word. Thank you. Terrific word. But anyway, so there was a lot of interest throughout the 70s making a big Dick Tracy feature film for some reason.

And a lot of the time Warren Beatty was sort of on a lock to star in that. So various movie studios bought the rights from Tribune, which was the publisher of the comic strips and attempted to make various Dick Tracy movies and they all fell through for various reasons. At one point I think Chester Gould who created Dick Tracy was like, I demand full creative control on this and they're like

absolutely not, we're canning this one. I think at one point Walter Hill who directed like 48 Hours and Red Heat yeah he wanted to direct uh this with warren baity to star but i think walter hill wanted like a grim and gritty kind of like a modern yes take on that like a 48 hours and warren baity was not about that for him no that's right he was he wanted he wanted a silly cartoony version yeah silly a sincere cartoony version yeah but and anyway? A sincere cartoony version.

Yeah. But anyway, a bunch of them fell through, including that version. Martin Scorsese also was on board. He was officially on board at one point, which would have been a very different project. Absolutely. Yeah. But then, crucially, all the rights lapsed. They went back to Tribune, and then Warren Beatty bought them himself.

He paid $3 million US dollars. He cracked open the piggy bank, which they all had back then, and he paid $3 million, which you might be like, he overpaid. But he got a lot for his money. We'll talk about it later. Absolutely, we will. And then he was like, he's going to direct it, produce it, and star in it. And in 1990, it came out.

I think of this movie, visually, it's very interesting. One of the things that he's done is that he's only really used the six original colors that were used for printing in the comic strip. So, you know, there's your reds and purples and yellows and whatever. And there's no real shades of anything else going on there. I guess you could compare it to like, it's like a slightly more colourful version of Sin City. Yeah, I had that thought. Without the murdering and all that. Well, there is the murdering.

There is so much murdering. For a PG-13, I assume. So this movie came in in 1990. Sin City started in 1991. Oh, okay. And I believe Frank Miller, creator of Sin City, has said his influences were like old school gangster movies and stuff like that.

He just saw Dick Tracy. He just saw all the freaks in Dick Tracy. And he's like, nah, I'll have a bit of that. Oh, how do you feel about that? All the freaks? I love them. Goddamn. Big head, tiny face, wrinkles, mumbles.

Sure. I don't know. Just everybody's a horrible ghoul. Flat guy. Flat guy, yeah. Yeah, nice. A lot of them unrecognizable. 88 Keys, not really a freak show, but you know. Yeah don't know. Just everybody's a horrible ghoul. Flat guy. Flat guy, yeah. Yeah, nice. A lot of them unrecognisable. 88 Keys, not really a freak show, but, you know.

Yeah, comb over. Is that the comb over guy? That's Mandy Patinkin, right? That's Mandy Patinkin, yeah. Wonderful. Love him. Love his inclusion. Yeah, so, yeah, visually interesting, but I think aside from that,

it's kind of hard to care about the main character because I don't care why he's doing it and what he's doing. He's doing it, James, because he has a sense of justice, and that's it. Well, apparently in the comics, the main gangster in this, played by Albert Pacino, killed his first love or his parents or something. I can't remember what it was. It could be both. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's not mentioned here at all. He's just a cop trying to do the right thing. And frankly, like, I don't really care whether you win or not. That's of no consequence to me. Is it because he's constantly, like, taking away their right to a phone call and stuff like that? Like, not reading them their Miranda rights? He's a bit rude.

He's got a big hot light on Dustin Hoffman at one point. Yeah, all of that, yeah. I think there's some things that does work in this relationship-wise. You know, there's this kind of a love triangle between him and his best girl and Madonna. Madonna's in this, by the way. So this was also the inspiration for Vogue as well. She wrote a number of songs for this.

She released the album I'm Breathless, which is songs from and inspired by the movie Dick Tracy, which includes the song Vogue. It's not in it, but it's in the movie, but it's on the soundtrack. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. I think the kid's good. He's also from Hook.

He's a fun little ragamuffin running about. He wants to be a mini Dick Tracy. But yeah, I think you've nailed it. It's that there's nothing to this guy, you know? Yeah. And that's the point, obviously. Yeah, uh-huh. I don't know, are you supposed to insert yourself in that, are you?

Well, I guess, but also I think because it you know, it comes from a serialised comic strip. You just open a newspaper every day and there's three panels or whatever and you're just in the middle of it and he's just chasing up the latest freak of a bad guy. Yeah. You know, there's no time for him to dwell on, like, the horrors of his past

and why he chose to become a police detective and et cetera. It's just like, well, I do what I do. You need five panels for that. And they normally only had three. Yeah. Yeah. And that should have been a fold out pop up of some kind. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. Another thing I think is interesting. Maybe the Sunday edition in full color was just him like crying at a window. Like, no, mom, dad, or whoever. Yeah. Another thing that I think is super interesting about this is that Warren Beatty, because of his Hollywood juice, he convinced Stephen Sondheim to write five original songs. Now, he's known for, like, West Side Story and Sweeney Todd

and Into the Woods. That's probably a whole other video that somebody else... Patrick Williams did a video on this. He'll talk about it more. It's a great video. But, yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Like, as you mentioned, all the stars that are involved. You mentioned...

There's Mandy Patinkin, there's Al Pacino, Dustin Hoffman. Al Pacino was in Godfather 3 the same year. Wow. Two great movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bloody Dick Van Dyke is in this. Oh, yeah. The District Attorney.

Bloody James Caan is in this. Oh, yeah, James Caan is in it. Just a whirlwind of stars and freaks. Yeah, absolutely. And you'd probably recognise this, but Danny Elfman was hired to compose the score because

of his work on Batman the previous year. But on working with Beatty, Elfman said, Warren was insane. Ah. Let's put a, let's,

Danny, you were in Oingo Boingo. Danny. Let's talk about, talk about insane calling a band Oingo Boingo. And his abs, have you seen that guy?

It's insane. He's ripped, he's jacked, how's he doing it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's talk about the insanity of Warren Beatty, though, because there's a lot of things said about him over the decades. Some say he's so vain that he would think that song was about him. And maybe it was or something, I can't remember. But there's been a claim made in a book about him in 2010

that he'd slept with 12,775 women. Now, we did the math on this, right, before the show. We tried. We're not good at it. No, we're not good at it. So we worked out through the power of Google that he lost his virginity at the age of 19 and he's now currently, at time of recording, 85 years old.

But... He would have stopped having sex decades ago. Well, that, and he married Annette Bening in 1992. Right? Around then. Shortly after the release of Dick Tracy. Correct. So that is roughly a 35-year window for him to have sex with 12,775 women, which works out to be 365 a year, which is obviously one a day.

Now, that sounds impossible and unlikely. Warren Beatty himself has said of this, that would mean not just that there were multiple people a day, but there was no repetition. He also didn't deny sleeping around during his heyday. Look, I never misled anybody, and I'm a nice guy. There you go. Official quote.

That is so true. Here's some other things about Warren Beatty. Okay. Gene Hackman turned down the role of Lips Manless because he couldn't bear being directed by Warren Beatty again after his experience on Reds. There you go. Sean Young was originally cast as Tess Trueheart.

That would work. Yeah, she was nearly Catwoman as well and a bunch of other things, but was fired after a few days of filming by Warren Beatty. Afterwards, Young publicly accused Beatty of firing her because she wouldn't sleep with him, but Deborah Ruff, Charlie Corsmo's mum, who is the kid, later disputed this, saying, the rumour was that she had become too demanding

and they just decided not to put up with that. Beatty also issued a statement saying, I made a mistake casting her in the part and I felt very badly about it. Wow. He was also dating Madonna at the time. Madonna and Warren Beatty, they met around the filming of this. Apparently he proposed.

Probably on set. Probably, yeah. If not before. They might have met the day before. Apparently he proposed to her and she stalled on the question of marriage, so he ended their romance and claimed what he'd given her was actually a friendship ring. But also that's what happens in the movie. It is, yeah.

Nobody can commit to getting married in this movie. Nobody's doing it, yeah. So there's a lot of that going on behind the scenes, you know? Look, some people will bring facts or thematic observations. Or math. But we will bring just unsubstantiated rumours and half-remembered quotes. And I think that's important.

Definitely. Yeah. So there's this character called No-Face in it, by the way, or something. The Blank. Blank Face. No-Face Man. Man with no face. Who's killing all the mobsters

and seemingly manipulating Dick Tracy and gets him in jail, but he gets out, whatever. And then at the end, it's like, who is this? It's Madonna. It was Madonna's character. Spoiler alert, whatever. And then at the end, it's like, who is this? It's Madonna. It was Madonna's character. Spoiler alert, obviously. That's the ending. And that's not before there's a scene where Warren Beatty just tears into a street

and machine guns probably 50 people. Oh, my God. And just the combat tactics in that man's mind, which is just stand in the middle of the street with a Tommy gun and just slowly turn around. Does he reload? It's a comic strip. Yeah.

Doesn't really matter, does it? But, but yeah i just feel like everything around this movie and this is obviously reflected in this video is way more interesting than the movie itself i think so too i mean there's some standout little bits fx is the veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever?

on Disney+. alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. There's a moment where... There's a food montage. There is a food montage. There's a moment where Dick Tracy has to rescue a character from being given, like, the cement straitjacket method of death. And he does that by replacing the guy with himself in the cement mixer. And so he just emerges covered in cement. You could have just hit around the corner, mate. Yeah, yeah, pretty good. Yeah, he seemingly has, like, knowledge of 15 seconds into the future

because there's another moment where they think they're going to ambush him, but he just set up his trench coat like he knew because he was finding out information about the gangsters so he'd be able

to get the jump on their plans except this time I guess he just realised that they maybe knew that at this point. Anyway, whatever. Again, it's comic strip logic.

And speaking of comic strips, Mason, as a fan of the comic strip, Warren Beatty apparently wanted to use pretty much every character that he possibly could in this in case he never got a chance to make a sequel. But then he just knocked most of them off. Yes, but in case he never made a sequel.

What if he did? He'd have to bring them back from the dead. Or use Flat Top Junior. Well, let's talk about sequels. Or more specifically, the future of this franchise. Because this was supposed to be like the Batmans or whatever. Well that's true. A lot of

people have said of this movie, oh it's just and I think because the timelines get muddled the further we go into the future a lot of people have said, oh you know this was just to capitalise on the success of Tim Burton's Batman. They were pretty much in production. It's a little close. They were too close. I think they were in production. You mentioned Danny Elfman earlier. There's definitely an overlap. I think they were pretty much in production. It's a little close, yeah. They were too close. I think they were in production. You mentioned Danny Elfman earlier.

There's definitely an overlap. Yeah, but I think they were too close in production. I think what did happen, though, certainly, is they saw the massive success of Batman. Executives saw it in the previous year and went, this will do huge numbers because we don't understand the difference because they can't tell.

We're in the future and we can tell. We know already. We already know. at time of recording it's been more than three decades since dick tracy 1990 and i don't know if you've noticed this james but there's been kind of a boom in like comic book comic character to movie adaptations since then you notice that have you felt that yeah i saw that in your waters i saw blade trinity oh yeah, yeah. It's the one. It was pretty good. That's right. Even your fellow comic strip stalwarts like Flash Gordon and The Phantom got TV series reboots on the SyFy channel. Yeah.

So it's weird that... Ah, we should probably have to do Flash Gordon, don't we? We'll probably have to do Flash Gordon. I didn't account for that. And I think we should do the Phantom TV reboot as well. We'll talk about it when we do The Phantom. We'll squish it in there. We'll squish it in there. But, but yeah you might be thinking to yourself well the batman has had

literally one million sequels since then why no dick tracy thing you know you'd think anybody with any kind of financial sense yeah would see where which way the wind was blowing you know in the last decade or so and just gone, let's knock it out here. Tribune, owners of the Dick Tracy comic strip, surely would be jumping on the bandwagon if there's money to be made. And just to jump ahead, we normally do this closer to the end, but the budget of this was $46 million.

It did blow out, and the box office return was $162.7 million. So it was a hit, like a moderate hit. Yeah, again, it didn't do as well as Batman, but it did enough to warrant a sequel. To warrant a sequel. Oh, good night, everyone. No, you've got things to say.

I can see your notes. That's true. Just read them. Just read them quickly. Okay, just burn through them. We'll get Siri to read them. Yeah, so you would think that the Tribune, upon getting the rights back after this movie was made, you would think they'd just make another Dick Tracy movie

or something, a TV series, anything. Yeah, a Saturday morning kids cartoon. But they didn't because they made a bad deal. Remember that $3 million that Warren Beatty paid for the rights? Turned out he got a tremendous deal. He got what seems to have been a perpetuity deal which is not that uncommon no so the reason you see for example fox making so many fantastic four or x-men movies despite the fact that they they got increasingly worse yeah is because they had a deal with marvel the the comic

publisher that if they kept making these movies they would retain the rights so they'd keep doing that until they'd squeeze the absolute last dollar from the public possible and they did and they absolutely did and then marvel had to buy 20th century fox yeah to get the rights back to those characters but even more so than that i think it's interesting that clearly the contract warren baity signed with tribune didn't even specify what he needed to make they made the deal with him in perpetuity but they didn't even specify what he needed to make. They made the deal with him in perpetuity, but they didn't tell him, okay, by the way, Warren, if you want to keep making Dick Tracy stuff,

you have to make a full feature film that gets released in cinemas and it has to be 90 minutes plus. And you have to be in it and whatever. Exactly. They just, in the contract, they didn't predict YouTube or Turner Classic movies. But we did. We did.

We know that now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're in the future. We're in the future. Clearly they just said, you have to make something Dick Tracy related and maybe you have to be in it. Yeah.

Because what he's done, and you can track these down on YouTube and I highly recommend you do. Because they're weird and bad? They're weird and they're incredible. I honestly, one came out this year and it's maybe my favourite piece of media that's come out. So what seems to be happening is Tribune contact Warren Beatty,

and they say, hey, Warren, we'd like the rights back. We'd like to make something with this. And then he has a certain amount of time to make a Dick Tracy thing. And so far what he's chosen to do is release two things, two pieces of content. Yeah, content is the right word. Both of which have been shown once and only once on the channel Turner Classic Movies.

One in 2008, the Dick Tracy TV special, in which Warren Beatty in character as Dick Tracy is being interviewed by Leonard Moulton, TV critic Leonard Moulton, about being Dick Tracy and the state of the world in general. He clearly kept the coat and hat. Yeah. And then in 2023, he released, again, one of my favorite things, Tracy Zooms In.

Yeah. In which- It's way weirder than the previous one. In which Leonard Moulton again and Ben Mankiewicz, Turner Classic Movies host, get on a Zoom call with Warren Beatty in character as Dick Tracy and then just Warren Beatty as himself. Oh, it's also a retrospective of the previous special. Special, yeah.

Yep, absolutely. 15 years prior. Maybe there's a sequel rule. It has to be a sequel to the previous thing. I don't know. It kind of plays like a Zoom meeting, but it's not edited cleanly. There's weird pauses. There's weird stuttering often

warren baity will just be or dick tracy they're both there they're both there and they have a they haven't spoken in years because of some sort of feud between them that was a result of a misunderstanding they missed having lunch at the polo lounge or something there's no way we can do this justice just immediately quit watching this video go to the youtube search bar above us and type in tracy zooms in it'll be there if it's not tweet at us and i'll find it for you and i'll give it to you personally dick tracy talks about like the state of media and movies and all of that but click like he's 85 so it feels 10 to 12 years too late the things that he's talking about tr And Dick Tracy critiques Warren Beatty's directorial issues and efforts in the original movie.

Yeah. God, it's great. Yeah. It's so niche. And then at the end, they go to lunch together. So it's Dick Tracy and Warren Beatty sitting across from each other in a very obvious split screen. And they're supposed to be having a conversation,

but they're just both talking at the same time. It great yeah really bizarre oh my god look again there'd be so many options these that like if you know a man so vain he probably thought the song was about him he probably thought that he keeps claiming that he's going to make a sequel to this he's going to produce something but he's just made these weird specials and i think at this point there's so many options you could do you could do grim and this point there's so many options. You could do Grim and Gritty. You could do a modern reboot. You could do Young and Sexy. Oh, yeah.

You could do it straight-laced. You could do a comedy. You could do a prequel where Tracy's just a guy in a regular suit and tie, and at the end the police chief's like, you did good, kid. Pick a trench coat and hat from our wardrobe of weird color options. And he goes, I think I'll choose a weird shade of yellow. Credits.

Tracy. Yeah. Because the movie would be called Tracy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's my take on this. Yeah. And I don't claim to know the man. Really?

Is that something that you've previously claimed? I don't have time. He's too busy sleeping with women. You can't get a hold of him on the phone. But I feel like maybe if he made another one and it was bad, people would go, why did he hang on to this license for so long? It's worse than the last one.

But if he lets the rights lapse, somebody else takes it and makes a movie and it's really good, then he's going to look like a guy who, again, who hung on to this license for way too long. Like, why didn't you let somebody else have it kind of thing? But if he just makes the one and he always claims that he's going to make a new thing,

then nobody else gets a chance to show him up. And then he dies and he doesn't know what happens after. That's true. Brilliant. Anyways, it's time for Dick Trivia. Nice. It's a trivia segment. Don't Google that, by the way.

No, no, no, don't do it. Makeup designer John Caglione Jr.'s final design for Big Boy Caprice matches the intended design. Caprice pants? That's right, probably. Matches the intended design conceived by Al Pacino, and since then he's become Pacino's personal makeup man

in all of his films. I would just love to see, you know how Al Pacino kind of got stuck in Scent of a Woman? Like that kind of performance? Yeah. I would love to see that Big big boy Caprice look like carry over into like Heat and Scent of a Woman and Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross, Christopher Nolan's insomnia. Oh my God.

Oh, speaking of, look, again, I don't know the man and I can't get him on the phone. If I could get him on the phone, I'd be like, Warren Beatty, here's a few options for you. How about this? The Irishman style reboot. They could de-age you. Absolutely. You do a modern thing and they here's a few options for you. How about this? The Irishman style reboot. They could de-age you. Absolutely. You do a modern thing and they could de-age you digitally. Or, how about this? What about a telltale game? Yeah.

You can provide the voice. Are you going to go and explain to him a telltale game? No, his grandkids can do it. Okay. God, duh. Producers apparently lobbied former President Ronald Reagan to play the role of Pruneface, but this was nixed by Warren Beatty Warren Beatty is uh openly political fairly left-leaning my understanding he's one of those

Hollywood liberals that's right and I think Reagan was in the depths of dementia at that point I'm pretty confident as well right being brought on set it'd probably knock him off at that point I reckon definitely yeah when Tracy leaps off the side of the building onto a lamppost he smashes his face into the pole. Warren Beatty was asked about this scene years later and if he felt bad for the stunt person, but he said, that was me. Pretty impressive, 50-year-old man doing that. I like it.

And it counts as a sex, he said. That's how he's doing it. Yep, that's right. Accidental falls count. He's racking them up these days. Some other names that apparently were considered because he wasn't always necessarily going to be Dick Tracy, but we had James Caan, Harrison Ford, Richard Gere, Mel Gibson,

Paul Newman, Robert Redford, George C. Scott and Tom Selleck. All under the one trench coat. That's right. So we talked about box office and budget and all of that, but this actually became the highest grossing film of Warren Beatty's career. And here's a quote from Al Pacino in regards to this film. Does it start with hoo-ah? Hoo-ah!

Thank you. A wonderful artistic film. A wonderful artistic film. Even though now it's like it doesn't even exist. Yeah. Whose fault is that, Warren Beatty? That's the thing, right? People don't know about this.

And I know a big part of that is because he's just holding on to the rights but people don't talk about this just like they don't talk about the shadow just like they don't talk about other movies we'll probably talk about yeah what is it about this that the movie in itself that is so kind of like who cares i don't i mean look as much as i want to say okay well the thing about comic book movies and superhero movies that makes them successful is that they have heart and they have, you know, the good ones, they have heart and they have, you know, they have themes and so on and so forth. I think the thing about a lot of comic book movies

is they have cool as hell gadgets and cars and stuff. He's got that watch. Yes, he's got that watch. Post-Batman 1989, I think people will, you know, because that had, you know, a tragic backstory, but it also had that scene where he flies the bat wing over the moon and makes the bat symbol and he flies it down. He shoots a bunch of rockets at the Joker and then the Joker has that really big, long

gun. That was freaking sick. It's freaking sick, right? And we never did work out whether that was an extended gun or he just had a really long barrel down his pants leg. No, we did, James. It would have been an extended gun, right? Yeah, because he collapses it.

You see him collapse it. I don't see anything. And I, quite frankly, I resent the accusation. Oh, wow, okay. Look, he's just not that interesting. I think that's it. Yeah. Again, everything else around this? Yeah.

Very interesting. I don't know. I mean, I think there's a reason that, you know, your costume superheroes made the jump to, you know, the bigger screen or to comic books and, you know, et cetera. And I don't think Ruffy's got what it takes. He hasn't got it, kid. That's right. You ain't got it.

I mean, you know, he's got an iconic look. Yeah, I agree. But that's about it. That's about it. Anyways, come back next week for famous 1930s character, The Rocketeer. He's from the 80s he really screwed this up didn't he the rocketeer but i'm looking forward to talking about that one and if you do want to see that early you can actually head over to big sandwich.co where these videos always go up

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or whatever, whatever, et cetera. Yeah, yeah. Final thoughts on Dick Tracy? I didn't love it. Yeah, I wanted to love it. Yeah. Yeah.

I liked it when all those guys got shot. That was cool. I thought Breathless Mahoney, too horny. Yeah? Yeah, dial it back, lady. Yeah? Just settle down. Settle down. Remember you're in a PG-13 movie. Okay was cool. I thought Breathless Mahoney, too horny. Yeah? Yeah, dial it back, lady. Yeah? Just settle down.

Settle down. Remember you're in a PG-13 movie. Okay. Yeah. All right, well, and we're in the future. I mean, we know that, but she obviously didn't.

That's true. All right, thanks, everyone. Grab that gym, you guys. We'll see you next week. Bye. Bye. As women, our life stages come

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