The Weekly Planet - Ghostbusters - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: October 28, 2021

Ghostbusters 1984 somehow walks the line between cult classic and massive box office success. Bringing together some of the best comedic minds of the era it managed to capture lightening in a bottle with a cast consisting of Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, Harold Ramis and Ernie Hudson. It's strange and funny and dirty and odd. And every sequel we cover in the coming weeks will not be as good. Thanks for watching out Caravan Of Garbage review.SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEL7DPX_0eAHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. We're approaching the spookiest time of the year, everybody. I'm not just talking about bloody tax time because for Caravan of Garbage, this holiday season, I don't have another award to give you. The last time I gave you the award for the millionth time that joke has been done and I don't, I ran out of balloons. So I don't know. I guess we wait for two million. So, you know, three or four more weeks and you'll be up to that. I think that video is also coming up. I don't think that's even out yet

but that's fine. So look, we're getting a new Ghostbusters movie yet again. They've made it. They made it. Reviews are in.

There's a boy called podcasting it or something. I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it either. I am looking forward to it though but I've got to say I'm not a massive

Ghostbusters fan so what we're going to be doing we're going to be going through the Ghostbusters scrylogy that's scare and trilogy even though they're not that scary massive Ghostbusters fan. So what we're going to be doing, we're going to be going through the Ghostbusters Scrillogy. That's Scare and Trilogy. Even though they're not that scary and it's not really a trilogy.

And Skrillex isn't in any of them as far as I know unless there's a little kid called Skrillex also. A new one, but I haven't seen it. Anyways, leave a like. What if there's a little kid called Dubstep? There might be. There could very well be. I mean, look, if it was 2014,

there would be a little boy called Dubstep. Yeah, yeah. But leave a like if you could because we are, of course, starting out with the classic that kicked it all off. That's right. 1984's Ghostbusters number one. Big number one. Now, you are a massive Ghostbusters fan.

Is that correct? That's true. Did I say Ghostbusters then? Maybe. Let's try it again. Now, you are a massive Ghostbusters fan. That one was intentional. Now, you are a massive Ghostbusters fan. That one was intentional. Now, you are a massive Ghostbusters fan.

Is that correct? It's true. I've seen Ghostbusters maybe more than any other film. Even Police Academy 6, which you've seen 12 times in a day or something? I've seen Police Academy 6 24 times. It's not important. The reasons are not important, James, but I think I have seen Ghostbusters more times than that, yeah.

Okay. I saw it on TV as a kid and I loved it just because it's fun, good time Ghostbusting, you know? It is fun, good time. And, look, going back to this, it's a real oddity. But what's interesting to me about this, and I just only touched on this briefly because I'd love for you to talk about it more, it began even more expensive and much, much odder.

Yeah. I mean, it began as Ghost Smashes, as some drafts of the script were called. But Dan Aykroyd, his family was like super into mystical stuff. Yeah. So like- And now he's fine. He's normal. He says normal things.

He sells normal vodka in normal bottles. But so his father wrote a book called The History of Ghosts. Yeah. His mother had claimed to see ghosts. I think his grandmother claimed that she could speak to the dead. And I think his great-grandfather, he was a mystic. Okay. He was a dentist, but he was also a mystic.

And he held seances to see if he could speak to the dead. I think he had some correspondence with Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the writer of the Sherlock Holmes stories, because they both shared an interest in mysticism. And the occult. And the occult and all that sort of stuff. So his household was all about this kind of stuff. But also I think he also loved movies and Hollywood

and all that sort of stuff. And the golden years of Hollywood, there were a bunch of like, you got a comedic actor and they encountered some ghosts and spooky stuff. Like Abbott and Costello. Abbott and Costello. There was like some Bob Hope movies where you encountered some spooky situations

and that sort of stuff. So I think he kind of wanted to combine the two. But he also wanted to like, he wanted to be a vehicle for a couple of his friends as well. So he wrote it for specifically himself john belushi and eddie murphy yes that's right like a it's like a trio but what's interesting is the original script is is has quite a few similarities to the what eventually came up on screen like they're they're the ghost smashers or the ghostbusters or whatever they were going to be called they they were still like blue-collar guys in jumpsuits

and it was still kind of like, you know, just a dirty job but somebody's got to do it. But also it was set in the far-flung future of the year 2012 and it was also like covering time and space and dimensions and they were flying out into space and all sorts of kind of crazy stuff. It was like an intergalactic adventure kind of thing. And so he brought this to Ivan Reitman, who was like,

this is too much. We cannot do this. This is a $300 million movie, essentially. And movies don't even make that money currently, so this will absolutely not happen. So he brought in Harold Ramis, who had written, I think, on Stripes, like the army comedy with Bill Murray also. It was the in the army now of its day.

That is, yes, yep, terrific. And then they basically all worked on it together and came up with kind of a more, very much more grounded kind of thing, which I think absolutely works. Totally. I mean, and, you know, production-wise, of course, John Belushi did pass away while Dan Aykroyd was writing it, which is very sad.

And then Eddie Murphy was doing Beverly Hills Cop, I think. Yeah. And that would have clashed. So they brought in Bill Murray, of course, to take Belushi's role. And then Howard Ramis was just like, I'd like to be in this. Oh, well, he's my favourite character in this, because what I love about, well, all of these guys, but I guess him in particular particular he plays it so straight and they are just normal kind of knockabout kind

of losers and they have backgrounds in academia of sorts of sorts but then you look at bill murray and it's just like he's just been collecting a check just doing nothing clearly since university what's interesting because according to him he has degrees in parapsychology. And regular psychology. And regular psychology. But they're both depicted with such disdain. And I think maybe that was the point. Like there was a point in the 80s

where people were like, psychologist, as if. Nonsense. So I don't know. But yeah, he's just this sort of, yeah, like he's just sort of this guy who's been grifting through academia. At one point, Ray says to Venkman, you've never been outside of college.

That's like, this dude's 50. What are you? He's always looked 50. That's the funny thing. They're all like mid to late 30s, these guys, which is crazy because that's like the age we are now. And I always just assumed that these guys were always 55 years old yeah but yeah you're right the humor derives from like yeah we got one grifter we got one guy who's like super earnest and excited which is kind of like dan

ackroyd's whole deal yeah uh we've got the deadly serious egon whose humor is is you know comes from this idea of like he's taking this so seriously there's no room for jokes or fun in this well one of my favorite lines in this is where i think bankman says to him this is like the time you tried to drill a hole in your head and he said that would have worked if you hadn't stopped me yeah and look i don't know what he was doing there but assuming he was just trying to drill a hole and he said yeah that would have worked if somebody didn't stop him that drill would have gone all the way through yeah and then of course we get course, we get Ernie Hudson as just a guy who's willing to do it. Just take a check and do a job. It's New York and jobs are probably hard to come by, so he's going to take this job.

And, again, like that combination I've always loved, this idea of like, you know, these absolutely huge supernatural forces just combined with just a a grimy awful new york just a regular new york with people yelling out of windows and whatever and just like just these people messing with forces beyond human comprehension yeah but by the end they're just like these just just some just these blue collar tired dudes like plumbers just like or like like the original script just like rat catchers or pest controllers. They're just over the top of like the ectoplasmic containment unit, just smoking cigarettes.

They don't care anymore, you know? Yeah, I love that. I love they're just in grimy overalls. You know what I mean? And they're also like, they're not great guys in general. They are in it for money, obviously. There is the scientific aspect of it, but I guess it's more the Venk venkman character but like he he sucks like he's like openly hitting on

everybody all of the time uh you know what i mean but the way that they kind of get around that is the villains are so like bureaucracy and like the dean is kicking them out and walter peck's like i'm just trying to shut him down or whatever. I love all of that. So despite them, you know, just being tired and like struggling with flights of stairs and falling over each other, they're slightly better than everyone else. That great moment where they, you know,

we're skipping ahead a little bit, but the moment where they arrive at the Ivo Shandor's haunted building and, you know, the final confrontation and all the crowds are cheering for them and they're there and they've got the sirens on and people are chanting Ghostbusters and, you know, the final confrontation and all the crowds are cheering for him and they're there and they've got the sirens on and people are chanting ghostbusters and then they go into the building and they're like,

oh, jeez, there's a lot of stairs to this building. Look at this matte painting. It goes forever. Right? But, yeah, like you mentioned, though, I love how, like, tactile and gross the world is. And it is, like, the ghosts element of that. I love seeing the behind the scenes because a lot of it is, like,

puppeteering, which they then, for lack of a better word, cut and paste into the live action footage. But even like the city and the cars and the tech, and like you mentioned, just like smoking cigarettes with sweaty armpits. You know what I mean? Yeah. Just so great.

And I love that also so much of this is improv, or apparently it is anyway. Like they had the rough idea. But the fact that I think a lot of movies just go into it, and I think the new one is probably, as in the 2016 one, is probably guilty of this. It's just like just improv and riff and we'll kind of find it in the edit. And that often falls down.

But there's so much here that they could piece together into something. That's true. It's so weird as well. It's just weird as well. It's just a weird, like, it's hard looking at it now, considering that, like, yeah, we've had so much since then. But in 1984, like, movies were like The French Connection and whatever. And I know there was Star Wars, but this is even, like,

a level weirder than Star Wars. There were two types of movie, The French Connection and Star Wars. But, like, there's another dimension in the fridge, the Ecto-1, like as a concept I love. There's the bit where Dan Aykroyd gets a blowjob from a ghost in a dream. But it's a deleted scene and that was a full thing that really happened. That's true.

Originally. But even things like when they have to confront a god at the end and they're just like, oh, I don't know about this, you know. And there's just like demon dogs and giant marshmallow men, just all of that. It's so bizarre. It shouldn't work. Like this should have come out and it should have been like,

what's that movie with the- R.I.P.D. That is a great example, yeah. I think R.I.P.D. tried to do that, but what's a movie from the 80s with one's a cowboy and one's the Robocop guy? What? Oh, Peter Weller's in it. Yeah.

It's got a long name. Yep. Oh, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension. Yes. There we go. This could have very well just become that, you know? But I think it's the strength of the characters. I think it's the strength of, like, the relationships. Like, we get all the performances, like we mentioned, all the main of the characters. I think it's the strength of like the relationships. Like we get all the performances,

like we mentioned, all the, all the main guys. Great. We get Sigourney Weaver as someone who she, she can't explain what's happening, but she also doesn't believe anything else. Anybody else is telling her like,

and why would you like Venkman's over? And he's like, it's probably, probably a supernatural spooks. And she's like, you're a creep and a liar. I don't believe you. Why?

You know, even when they kiss at the end, like it doesn't feel, no, they and she's like, you're a creep and a liar. I don't believe you. Why, you know. Even when they kiss at the end, like, it doesn't feel. No, I think. No, they're kind of like they purse the lips and it's just like, oh, I don't like this. Look, the one credit I'll give to Venkman, he doesn't take advantage of her when she becomes a soul. But at the same time,

he does have like a bunch of Thorazine in his pocket too. Well, I looked into this and that has been since used as a date rape drug, but it wasn't known for that at the time. Well, look, if we're going to... I'm wondering, because I think at the time it might be... It is weird he has it on him, though. It is weird. It is weird that he has it on him.

I'm wondering because sometimes they used to prescribe it for ADHD or ADD, as it was called at the time. So maybe it was his. Oh, okay, yeah. Or maybe it was Ray's. Maybe he stole Ray's. If there's one character in this movie that might have ADHD, it's the guy going like, wow, this place has got a fire pole.

Whee! I love that it's got a fire pole. Like that station as well. Incredible, right? What a location. What a find. Rick Moranis is just a beautiful loser living his best life. That was supposed to be John Candy originally, wasn't it?

Oh, yeah, that's right. I think he was going to play it like German and whatever, and they were like, no, thank you. So if you look at all the storyboards, it all looks like John Candy. That's true. Moranis gets a lot more play in the sequel, so we'll probably get to that. Annie Potts as Janine. Do they throw away that kind of love story between her and Egon?

Yeah, a little bit, yeah. Yeah, because that becomes more like a – that's not looked at at all in the second one, is it? No. For those two. No, but I think it may be addressed in Afterlife. Again, a movie we haven't seen yet. Just as this overworked, again again just happy to do the job

but my god is she sick of what's happening here and just one, look everybody but like one more major one, everybody including like the guy at the Cedric Hotel like smoking a cigar at the bottom of the elevator shaft is just like I'll take the next one, that guy's great

but also like William Atherton as Peck, just this just this barely That guy's great. But also like William Atherton as Peck. Incredible. Just this barely. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors. Like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause, causing the risk of heart disease to go up. Know your risks.

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today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Contained fury of this EPA guy who's clearly had to do this a thousand times, but now there's ghosts as well. And he's too yeah he's totally right that reactor that reactor storage containment thing that was going to explode no matter what if they hadn't switched that off it would have gone up the next week anyway because it was full it was full of ghosts full of ghosts i've got some amazing trivia about that guy i also want to make mention of the song, which is incredible. It's an incredible song. Well, yeah, I mean, you probably know this, but obviously Huey Lewis and his news, they were approached to do that, a theme for Ghostbusters,

because they did Back to the Future. A couple of songs for Back to the Future, including The Power of Love, which is a lovely song about the power of love. It's a curious thing. And Out of Time, which is the very specific one, where it's like, I'm getting on my skateboard, skateboard i'm getting in a car we're going through time i'm marty mcfly oh no i'm in the old west yeah i love that song uh but uh i think huey lewis

didn't want to be known as like a soundtrack guy i just feel like typecast is a guy who you know just the you just you just get him for soundtracks and nothing else uh so he declined so they got ray parker jr and then i think he was sued because apparently it's too similar. But I don't feel that at all. Really? Yeah, maybe at the time. Maybe there was a lack of this sort of new wave pop vibe going on. No, I didn't get that sense at all.

And look, I haven't lined the notes up. I'm not a musically inclined person, but no, I didn't get that sense. There's also some other very interesting, spooky, new wave music. There's the scene where all the ghosts escape and it's got that kind of vague, like, it's magic. Yeah. That's a cool track and it's difficult to find. The guy's name is Mick Smiley.

Okay. And he made that song and then he wrote some other songs for some other artists And he kind of like quietly disappeared off the music scene Like magic Ghost running amok in New York I could just watch that all day And it's interesting because a lot of that stuff Is quite janky

And seems like the demon dogs stop motion their way around Like it's not good But it doesn't matter at all But it's also what what i love about the mythology is that and this is in this terror dogs i should say as well yeah what i think is interesting about the mythology is we get so many hints to a lot of stuff but it's never fully explored and it's that's okay yeah you know what i mean and i think these days every reference to you you know, torgs and giant slaws and et cetera would have to be explained somehow. But in this it's just like there's demons and there's also people coming back from the dead.

Look at that dead cabbie is coming back. I think that's better, though, than being like, well, okay, so Slimer was a regular man and now he looks like this is a ghost. But even though some ghosts don't look like that, some ghosts just look like decomposing taxi drivers or whatever but like don't get into it because the more that you do the dumber it gets. That's true.

You know and I think because this movie. But to answer your question James a torb is like a giant eel but it's got arms. Okay yeah that was my question. It's like a giant electric eel. Yeah yeah. But like by not touching on any of that you know you don't need to because sorry you don't need to touch on any of that you know you and well you don't need to because sorry you don't need to touch on any of that though because the characters and the story moves so well that you don't think

about it be like wait a minute this doesn't how does how is he eating hot dogs um do you probably know about this though because you're the number one ghostbusters fan and if anyone's in here thinking that they're the number one ghostbusters fan. I don't know what to tell you. Nick Mason's going to stab you for saying that. Leave a like to prove I'm wrong. So, yeah, there was a controversy surrounding the name. Filmation owned the rights to a show in the 70s called The Ghostbusters. Three words, The Ghostbusters. So the plan was initially to film both versions as in like,

we'll get everybody chanting Ghostbusters. The crowd, yeah. We'll put the sign up saying Ghostbusters, then we'll set everything up again and we'll go with Ghostbreakers. And we'll just do that every time. And very early on in filming, they just went, we're not doing this. Like this is going to take forever.

So they had to work something out legally. And it turns out that the guy who ended up being the head of filmation worked on this for a time and, like, waved it through, luckily. Yeah, I mean, I think it still cost them half a million dollars, but they eventually got it through, yeah. And, of course, this, of course, led to the live-action TV series,

the Ghostbusters becoming an animated series, which led to the... It had a gorilla in it. I was so confused. A haunted car, yeah, exactly, which then led to the animated adaptation of this Ghostbusters being called the real Ghostbusters. Yeah. Which is explained in story, James. Why is he blonde, though? I mean, for action figure purposes. Oh, yeah.

Because otherwise it's just four Bill Murrays. That's a good point. No, well, no, it's three Bill Murrays in a... You're not going to get those likenesses right. No, it's three Bill Murrays in an Ernie Hudson, but yes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Would you like some trivia but ghost trivia? Yes i've named this section yeah so slimer was supposed to be based on john belushi right okay yeah and there's an interesting documentary on

netflix among many that talk about you know these movies but at the very last minute they were like can you make this look like john belushi and he's like it's tomorrow like we're filming it tomorrow I can't so when they came in he just went yeah I did it they went great looks just like him I just love that idea he's got he's got hot dogs falling out of his butt just like John Belushi did Winston also was going to have a much bigger role obviously because it was written for Eddie Murphy. But when Bill Murray came on, it's like, oh, we've got a funny guy. We'll give most of the stuff to that. Apparently when Reitman and Ramis brought Bill Murray in to the project,

they're like, do you want to do a pass on this script? He's like, no, you guys got it. It's fine. I'll just do whatever. But again, Ramis had written for Bill Murray and Stripes. So they're like, I think we got the voice of this guy. Yeah, they'll figure it out. So yeah, the moment where Venkman gets slimed,

that was supposed to be Winston. There's a bunch of stuff like that that, you know, and Ernie Hudson wasn't particularly happy about because it's like in the script it says that I'm doing this, but now I'm entering the movie like 50 minutes in or whatever, which, you know, I can understand. But he does get, you know, he does return for the sequel, which is something.

Pee Wee Herman was going to be Gozer at one point. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I don't think that's as good. I like the idea of a gender fluid kind of God that's just like, hey, what's up? Let's go. Like David Bowie-esque.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Nightmare creature. I wonder also, Pee Wee Herman I think maybe would have thrown people out of the movie at that point. I think so, yeah. But I mean, you know. I mean, he could do other awesome stuff. I mean, definitely. Yeah, that's probably true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But stille Herman, I think maybe would have thrown people out of the movie. I think so. Yeah. But I mean, you know, he can do other. I mean, definitely.

Yeah, that's probably true. Yeah. But still, yeah, I agree. But he was at the peak of his Pee Wee Herman-ness. The peak of his Pee... This isn't a joke. This is going in the extended version. Terrific.

I didn't have anywhere to go with that. Okay. So Harvey Comics, the creator of Casper, sued the producers claiming the ghost in the logo was too close to Casper so the court ruled against them stating that there were only so many ways you could draw a ghost that's true I guess and also it's got a pointed head and Casper's got a round head that's true and and you know the Ghostbusters logo ghost is a generic ghost whereas Casper is a boy who died he tragically died he fell down a well and he drowned no I don't know I don't know how I

don't remember that movie and they never explained it in the in the children's comics strangely they never explained how the boy died interesting really it's not it's not richie rich's corpse just to be clear that was that that's a that's a theory that's been posited hasn't it now this is all william atherton trivia from here on out mason's walter peck yes okay great so for the the big marshmallow man the stay puffed marshmallow man which i always just assumed was a real product that we'd ever got in Australia, but it's a combination of like the Michelin Man and the Pillsbury Doughboy and whatever, isn't it? Well, yes, it is. Well, speaking of, just as a side note, speaking of products we didn't get in Australia,

when I was a kid, I was obsessed with the idea of the Twinkie because we didn't get a Twinkie. Oh, yeah, right. Of course, they eat and enjoy Twinkies in that movie, but We didn't get them until like several years later. And I remember being at the supermarket with my mum and being like, can we please have these Twinkies? I've been dreaming about these Twinkies for my entire life. I'm the number one Ghostbusters fan. I'll stab anybody who says otherwise.

I'll stab you, mum. But please, please, please can have these Twinkies. We're going to have like a big packet of like 10 Twinkies. And I undid the packet at home and I just put the first one in my mouth and I'm like, this is awful. These are the worst thing. These are physically unpleasant. It's the fake cream that gets me.

It is. Just go to a bakery. Go to a bakery. Anything's better than Twinkies, honestly. And they don't last forever. That's a myth. That's true. That's a myth, Mason.

Yeah, yeah. So anyway, they use shaving cream for the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man when he exploded, right? Yeah. It's also interesting used shaving cream for the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man when he exploded, right? Yeah. It's also interesting that Bill Murray has, like, no shaving foam on him, like, at all, really, and everybody else is just soaked in it.

So before the big drop on William Atherton, the actor asked Reitman if it was going to hurt, and he said he didn't know. But one person we know did have an allergic reaction to the shaving foam. So what they did, they unleashed 75 pounds of shaving foam onto a stuntman to prove it was fine, and it completely flattened. So they took out half of the shaving cream. 75 pounds of shaving cream, it still weighs 75 pounds.

It's that ton of bricks, ton of feathers situation, isn't it? So they took half of it out, and they went from there. But this, I think, is my favourite bit of trivia. And I absolutely think that William Atherton has, like, come around to this since. And he plays, like, a sleazebag in Die Hard and whatever. That's true, yeah. Ivan Reitman recalls running into William Atherton,

who plays Walter Peck, about a year after the film came out. Instead of warmly greeting Reitman, Atherton was genuinely angry and upset, telling the director that he couldn't go into a bar without people wanting to pick a fight with him. People would also scream at him in public. Likewise, Ramis recalls Atherton telling him about a time when he was walking in downtown New York and a bus full of tourists yelled dickless at him. There it is.

Well, I mean, that, look, and you know, that's a mark of a great character. I agree. And a great performance of that character because you're like, that's a character you love to hate. But he's right. He's right, though. Anyways, I want to talk about box office before we wrap things up. Let's do it.

You might be thinking, like, why do they keep making these, you know? Sure. What are they doing? The reason is because columbia pictures their highest grossing film of all time uh when adjusted for inflation is this so it cost 30 million half a million of that was for the name ghostbusters and it made 295 million at the box office which is i believe the highest grossing comedy of all time at that point really i wonder if it's probably one of the hangovers right now.

Probably one of the hangovers. Yeah. But it's something I thought was incredible. So Bill Murray only agreed to do the movie if Columbia financed a remake of The Razor's Edge. So this was like a World War I drama. Okay. I don't know.

I haven't watched it. Anyway, it had a very mixed reception. It made $6 million at the box office on its $12 million budget. So there you go. People would just rather see Bill Murray roll in at literally the last minute, which is what he did. They didn't know whether he was going to show up on the day and then just be like, I don't know, I'll just say whatever, I guess.

I'm just going to insult everybody on set. I'm going to keep moving. All in all, it is definitely the pinnacle of this series. And I kind of wish it was a one and done. I think there's some other good stuff in other properties since then. It's always nice to see those characters.

Whether it be in a sequel or a video game or this new thing. Some of them are going to be in that, I guess. Just some miscellaneous things that I forgot about. The librarian is also great. Oh, yeah. A line reading of, like, her father thought he was Saint Jerome.

Oh, right, yeah. What a world. And also I love there's a couple of moments where it nearly becomes a musical. Did you notice that? No. It just nearly becomes a musical. Oh, when they're on the steps of...

Yes. Yeah, you're right. It's wild. That must be... Every single time. I've seen that movie so many times, but every time I see that, I think it's going to be like,

call it faith, call it hope, call it, but then it's just not a musical. It's just not. Anyways, this has been Caravan of Garbage. We do this here every week. We'll be back next week to talk about Ghostbusters, number two. Ghostbusters, go bananas.

That's right. In NYC. That's right. Because they heart NYC, don't they, Mason? You better believe it. It's actually the one that I saw first, so I have a lot of fond memories for it, but I haven't seen it in decades.

It is the first Ghostbusters I saw in the cinema. Okay, sure. Yeah, that big cinema experience for me. Let me tell you, I loved it. Do I still love it? Dunno. But if you do have any suggestions for Caravan of Garbage, please leave them below.

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That's what we think. Good movie. Yeah. All right, let's go. Grab that jam, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network.

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