The Weekly Planet - Ghostbusters II - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: November 4, 2021

Ghostbusters II brings back everything you loved about the original. The director, the cast including Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, Harold Ramis, Ernie Hudson and Slimer. There's ghosts running amok, th...ere's a big thing stomping around New York but this times there's an evil painting. Anyways it's not as good or as funny. Thanks for listening!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/GduIPb6AOEMHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:55 This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of Caravan of Garbage, where this week we think to ourselves and we look at each other and we go is this ghostbusters 2 or is it ghostbusters poo that's what we say he did it we had a discussion before the episode you insisted that i insisted you you said i've got a killer joke here that'll make you a ghost but i think the reason you wanted me to put it in so i didn't go it's the spookiest time of year everybody i'm not just talking about tax time I'm going to make you a ghost. But I think the reason you wanted me to put it in so I didn't go, it's the spookiest time of year, everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I'm not just talking about tax time. Damn it. Please leave a like because this week we are talking about the- I thought you were just drinking the adulation, the pride of creating a new joke. No, no, no, no, no. I play the hits here. Yeah, I guess that's right. We play the hits at Caravan of Garbage Basement.
Starting point is 00:01:44 That's true. We look at anything and we just say the same thing. Like a skeleton playing a xylophone in his own ribcage. That's right. Now that's spooky, but not tax season. Now, I was going to say this is long delayed, and it was at the time, but since the amount of time has passed since a Ghostbusters movie between this and what they made next,
Starting point is 00:02:02 it's not that long. It was a delay of five years. This is what Slimer looks like now. Feel old yet? Still looks like shit. Okay. Got some information about the lead up to this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:13 So Bill Murray was on an extended sabbatical from acting. Okay. Sabactical? Yes, that's right. And was angered by the new Columbia head, David Putnam, calling him an actor who makes millions off movies but gives nothing back to his ass. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Sorry, dude in charge of the studio. Yeah. Fucking hell. Bill Murray also said in a recent... Who's literally only interested in money. I know, right? Who just rubber stamps terrible stuff, including Ghostbusters 2.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Bill Murray said in a more recent interview that he and the other cast members signed on to this film based on a script they didn't use, which I'll talk about more at the end of this. So Ghostbusters 2 ended up not being the story they wrote. They got us in the sequel under false pretenses. Harold had this great idea, but by the time we were shooting, I showed up on set, went, what the hell is this?
Starting point is 00:03:05 What's this thing? But we're already shooting it. So we all had to figure out how to make it work. What was the thing? The thing? The script, I assume. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Just on a platform levitating there. What's this? What's going on here? What's this thing? Yeah. So Mason, call it fate, call it luck, call it karma, if you will. This has the best movie logo that you could possibly have for a movie like this. Can't go wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Ghost doing the peace sign, but it's also two. Two, yeah, okay. That does tie it all together, doesn't it? It's good. This movie, I remember it being great. It was the first Ghostbusters movie I saw. It's not very funny, though, is it? I mean, no, I've written some
Starting point is 00:03:46 of the jokes down. Yeah, I mean, I remember seeing it as a kid. I think I mentioned last week I saw it in the cinema. This was the first Ghostbusters movie I saw in a cinema. And I'm sure I had, like, there would have been some sort of book of the movie, like stills and stuff from the movie
Starting point is 00:04:02 and I would have had that. And there was probably a colouring book. I don't know if action figures were in the were in the mix yet i don't i'm not sure i think they were because the cartoon was in between ah okay then then action figures were definitely in there but this movie as an adult watching it again it has way less appeal than the first one to me because it feels less like a real new york it feels to me way more like it's happening on us on set it is sanitized yeah it is sanitized and i think probably because they're after that that family dollar this i kind of smoking what wait there's not wow yeah not even a victory i think there might be somebody smoking a cigar at some point. Okay, right. I sort of, I like the idea that they, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:45 the plot sort of hinges around positivity. I don't hate that. But it feels like they just went, okay, how do we repeat the beats of the first one, but kind of more family friendly? So they replace Walter Peck with that snivelling mayor's assistant. In the last one, they get sent to, in the first one, they got sent to jail.
Starting point is 00:05:06 In this one, they get sent to a psychiatric hospital. Instead of the Marshmallow Man walking the streets of New York, we've got the Statue of Liberty walking the streets of New York. Janos is just Lewis Tully again. Yeah. I mean, he's doing it as Lewis Tully as he was in the first movie. But, boy, Peter McNichol is putting on a heck of an accent. Let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:05:22 He's really going for it. He really is. He's doing, like, fronk, father of the bride type accents. It is. I say accents because it feels like more than one. I was going to say, it feels like every Eastern European accent smashed together, but ultimately like no accent anyone has ever come out of the mouth before.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I mean, he's great. I'm a big fan. Yeah, for sure. Look, I said it's not as funny, but here's three jokes that I enjoy. Go on. First of all, Lewis defending them in court
Starting point is 00:05:49 for some reason, even though he's an accountant, but I guess he's not anymore. And they're like, Lewis, you've ruined, we're going to jail. And he's like, you wanted me here.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Come on. He says, one time I turned into a dog and they helped me. Like, that was part of his defense. I enjoy the Doe Ray Egon joke. Good joke. That's a good joke. So far, everything in just one scene in this movie that is true and the moment where they turn up to i think where the painting is and bill murray says suck in the guts boys we're the
Starting point is 00:06:15 ghostbusters just it speaks to the idea that yeah these are just dudes in their 40s you know yeah yeah and how far they've fallen because as as we enter in this movie, it's been five years since the previous one. So down on their luck. Down on their luck. So they got sued by the city. Everybody thinks they're frauds. For some reason. For some reason.
Starting point is 00:06:34 So Egon's gone back to sciencing. Bankman is now the host of some sort of cable TV show about psychics. He's talking to the dad from Transformers. That's one of the people in the show. You're right. Anyway, sorry. Go on. And worst of all, Ray and Winston have been reduced to a pair of children's party entertainers, which I've put down here because that's
Starting point is 00:06:54 probably what's going to happen to us in five years. In five years, we're going to be booked for children's birthday parties and we're going to be like, hey kids, you want to see us edit a podcast? And they'll be like, boo! Where's He-Man? Where's Woke He-Man? And they're going to be like, hey, kids, you want to see us edit a podcast? And they'll be like, boo, where's He-Man? Where's woke He-Man? They're going to yell.
Starting point is 00:07:09 We don't understand dramatic structure. So the fact that He-Man isn't in every episode doing the same thing every time, we think that's bad storytelling. Just to clarify. There's enough black characters in He-Man. There's already Clamp Champ. Kids don't know nothing is what I'm saying. Well, what I'm saying is new He-Man is infinitely better than old He-Man. There's already Clamp Cham. Kids don't know nothing is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Well, what I'm saying is new He-Man is infinitely better than old He-Man. And if you watched old He-Man, you would know that. Anyway... Anyway, this is us at children's birthday parties in five years. That's right. It's weird that they're like, we want He-Man. He's not real. I mean, there's ghosts. So maybe he is real?
Starting point is 00:07:42 I don't know. Ray and Winston should have tracked down a few ghosts and just brought them in as like party favors. You're absolutely right. You crack some sort of cracker. You crack open a pinata, birthday pinata. It's got a real slimer in it. Oh my God, incredible.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Kills your family. Kills and eats your family. I love how that kid's like, you're full of crap. And it's like, hell, there's a giant marshmallow man like even if even if you thought they like instigated the whole thing that definitely happened like even if even if you think they released gases into the city that caused people to hallucinate how did everybody hallucinate the stay puffed nobody filmed it great question yeah and the other thing is uh why are they wearing nuclear reactors into a children's party?
Starting point is 00:08:27 I mean, maybe they took the plutonium out and left it on the street. Yeah, they might have, yeah. Anyway, what I also don't like about that scene is they leave the children's party and they're like, oh man, time to recap the first movie. You know, they're just like, this is everything that happened between now and the last time that there was a movie. We think of as
Starting point is 00:08:48 Ghostbusters 1 and Ghostbusters 2, they say. Anyway, the story, as you mentioned, there's a hate-filled river of slime, and bloody, imagine if it was the bloody 2016 election, everybody, or the 2020 election, or any upcoming election for the rest of time. Or any election that's ever happened or will happen. Yeah. I will say this about
Starting point is 00:09:05 the villain though i think he's much scarier than the zool he's just a terrifying presence because maybe a real life terrible man potentially maybe yeah sure but just like that's a that's a like a weird rasputin monster man yeah like vlad the impaler again speaking of the they were asked to you know film a script they were not happy with, I wonder if this was maybe studio interference because this movie introduces a singular villain way earlier than the original one does.
Starting point is 00:09:35 In the first one, it's just them basically mucking around for 70 minutes and then Zool shows up and some dogs. And in this one, they're like, villain is this painting. Exactly, yes. I think though the ghost busting is as good as ever.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I think the courtroom scene is it's legit. It's too legit to make me quit on it as the saying goes. What do you think? Have you learned some rapping from this movie, James? I've been, yeah, maybe a little goes. What do you think? Have you learned some rapping from this movie, James? Has that? I've been, yeah, maybe a little bit, much outside. Well, look, just as a side note,
Starting point is 00:10:13 there is an astounding amount of like early 90s sort of family-friendly hip-hop in this. Or late 80s, early 90s. And it's really astoundingly on the nose. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of just rap groups recapping the events of the movie while it's still happening. Totally true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I mean, if this wasn't the first, it was certainly one of the earlier examples because if you look at, like, the Ninja Turtles movies, probably the three Ninja Kid movies, probably the movie Suburban Commando. Definitely. Used to say, yeah. We're talking about all the ghostbusting.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Yeah. This movie takes 30 minutes to get going. Yeah, okay, fair. And I feel like that kind of worked in the first one. Yep, because we hadn't seen it at that point before. Yes, exactly. And also, like, you know, it was more, it felt more like there was just some real,
Starting point is 00:10:53 just some pals mucking about, which I enjoyed. And this one, it just, it barely gets going by the 30-minute mark, and then it's the Sclero brothers, and that's fun. Yeah, that is fun. I think Ghost Train is fun. Yep. Like, severed heads on spikes
Starting point is 00:11:05 because they're like this is more for kids and i'm like i don't think this is i think this is scarier in some ways some of these moments and like always a fan of ghosts running amok in new york city you know we get like the titanic we get the mink coat scene and you know just bits and pieces um i think all that is good but again it's kind of a recap of what we've already seen. Speaking of recaps, here's the joke that I enjoyed. Okay. It is the Ghostbusters in the psychiatric facility explaining basically the plot of the movie to this point
Starting point is 00:11:36 to the doctor. I thought that was a fun bit. Who's Bill Murray's brother, I think. That's Brian Delamari, yeah. I thought that was a fun bit. Maybe every movie should have that. Yeah, just whatever it is. Just bit. Maybe every movie should have that. Yeah, just whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Just shuffle them into a psychiatrist's office. Just bring the Eternals in, you know, and they have to explain the plot of Ghostbusters 2 to a psychiatrist. It's always Ghostbusters 2. It's always Ghostbusters 2, yeah. Here's a question for you, because I know you're the biggest Ghostbusters fan there is and you'd kill anybody who says otherwise. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And the new suits. Now, it's not the suits that they're in for the most part, but they're a dark grey, you know what I mean? They look slick and new and cool. They are technically better, like design-wise. They hide the sweat patches. Sure. There's a lot going on there, which I think is better.
Starting point is 00:12:19 But I also think they're worse. Oh, yeah. Because they're newer and slicker, which I guess is the idea maybe? I think so, yeah. Yeah. Was there a question in there for me? What do you think? I think the dirty beige ones are better.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Okay, good. Yeah. The gross ones. The gross ones, because it makes them look more gross. Yeah. It is a shame that they put in the character of Jack as opposed to Walter Peck, who, to be fair, I think he does a decent job doing the role, which was clearly intended for Walter Peck.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Sure, yeah. But, you know, whatever. Apparently he did return in the early drafts of the movie, but for whatever reason, maybe because everybody in the world turned on him after appearing in first Ghostbusters and Die Hard. Here's something that I think is terrifying, though. Seeing that baby on the ledge, horrifying.
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Starting point is 00:13:56 So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. I was a kid and I didn't have kids. Oh, yeah, right. That's sunrisech said in the cinema. I stood up and I said, I think this is a green screen. Everybody calm down. This is a movie. And within this movie, there is a green screen. That's simply the actor, Peter McNichol. And I see big things in his future, Ally McBeal.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Ally McBeal. Here's a question about Peter McNichol. Speaking of babies. Yes. Dancing baby. Awful. Just an awful effect. We're both doing the little dance now.
Starting point is 00:14:39 You can't say this. But it's just out of, I don't know, disgust. Yeah. Anyway, Peter McNichol shows up to steal a baby. Is he a ghost? What is that? Because I know he's under the influence of a painting, but I think at that point where I'm like, why is he a ghost?
Starting point is 00:14:55 Isn't he a man who's alive? Is this a different guy? Maybe it's an astral projection. Yeah, but like if I'm thinking about that, that means that there's something wrong here. Because in the first one, I'm just like, some of them are zombies and some of them are green slimer men. But this, I'm like, that, that means that there's something wrong here. Because in the first one, I'm just like some of them are zombies and some of them are green Slimer men.
Starting point is 00:15:08 But this, I'm like, I don't know. I don't know about this. And I think that speaks to the... Maybe it's because you live in fear of Mary Poppins. Maybe I do. Would it have made more sense if you'd just become a green Slimer man? No, just like a different ghost kidnaps him. Maybe a different ghost, Mary Poppins ghost.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Or just the pram. Yeah, yeah. Look, I will though, I will say, I totally get behind the idea of the walking Statue of Liberty controlled by a Nintendo arcade stick or whatever they manufacture. How does any of that work? They just hook up some cables and they just... How'd they get it back on the podium at the end of the movie?
Starting point is 00:15:41 They probably didn't. They probably left it. It's there. Maybe they just built another one. Oh, is it? Maybe they just left it in the river and the city built another one. That's what I do.
Starting point is 00:15:52 The city installed a big balloon. I'd ditch it in the river. But that's good, right? That scene. You'd ditch it in the river like an old shopping trolley. But that's good, right? I think it is good. New York rallying behind them and the music.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I love that. And I also love there's a moment where before they get the great idea to use the Statue of Liberty, they simply attempt to use their proton packs to blast their way through and the crowd just boos them. I love that. That's New York, baby. That's New York, baby.
Starting point is 00:16:18 But then they rally behind that other guy, you know what I mean? And that's also New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's also, I think yeah yeah yeah there's also i think i don't know if this is a joke but i put it in after they get in there they slime peter mcnichol and winston says one down and i think it's ray or one of the other ones says on the ground and i'm like i don't know why you put that in i don't i didn't i i understand like what is that i think they had all these little things that they would say that i think were
Starting point is 00:16:44 meant to show that they had a lot of camaraderie and they've been doing this for years and they're like, couple of ghosts, we've made them toast or whatever. Here's your toast. Here's your toast. But I hated it. I hated every single, and I didn't believe that Egon would be on board with any of those.
Starting point is 00:16:58 It seemed like the actors, and maybe this was true in real life, didn't gel as well. Yeah. Because there was just like the back and forth between them is just, it's not really there. Do you think it had to do with Ernie Hudson shaving off his mustache? Oh, yeah. Do you think maybe that's what tore them apart?
Starting point is 00:17:15 Do you think maybe pre-production is like, I'm going to shave my mustache off, and they're like, Ernie, no. You're going to need that later for the TV series Oz, probably. I've never seen Oz. Is it a good show? Yeah, it's good. Great. Great.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Let's get on it next week. No, you do watch The Wire first. Okay, I'll watch The Wire first, and then I'll watch the sequel, Oz. Okay. Here's a question. A couple of things. Okay. No, here's something.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Let's just say here's something. Okay, great. It's our famous segment, Here's Something? Here's Something. Question mark? I don't think it is, but... It doesn't always have to be something. That's the joy of the segment. I've got two things that might be something okay one they sing uh new york sings
Starting point is 00:17:50 old lang syne yes and i was like oh it's new year's i did someone say that at some point okay great it was new year's because the the uh the man oh he has to do it transformers dad yeah says that uh the world's going to end on you eve oh and that's what we think is going to happen, maybe, but obviously not because the Ghostbusters are going to save the statue. Maybe. Maybe he was right, maybe. Maybe he was right. And the second thing is, and I meant to mention this last week,
Starting point is 00:18:13 like who built... Is this a question about Ghostbusters 1? Yes, Mason. But it bleeds over into the franchise, and maybe it bleeds into the new one. The followers of Zool built that building, and there's thousands of followers of Zool who made this happen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Where? Let's see that maybe. What's that about? What do you mean? It's like these people that expected this David Bowie creature to come back. They're all dead. Okay, cool. But don't you think that'd be interesting?
Starting point is 00:18:38 Like a cult of Zool? Yes. Yeah, anyway. Maybe we'll see it in some other medium. Yeah, so normally that section that we do every week, here's something, and we have to label it after whether it's something or nothing, and that was actually nothing, all of that, those things I said.
Starting point is 00:18:52 That's correct, yes. That is very correct. But it can't always be something. That's the joy of the segment. Spin the wheel. That's right. Spin the wheel. Some weeks it is something, probably, maybe.
Starting point is 00:19:00 One day it will be. Here's something that might be something. Go on. Unless you've got some more notes before we do. Wait, is this still the segment? Is this something? No, no, now we're out of the segment. Okay, right. So this is the new segment maybe this is something.
Starting point is 00:19:12 No, no, this is the segment that we always do. Okay. It's time for spooky time ghost trivia. Okay, great. Here we go. William von Hornberg, the guy who played the painting. All his lines were dubbed by Max von Sydow. That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:27 That's fun. I'm pretty confident that that actor did not know he was being dubbed over. A la Darth Vader. Darth Vader, yeah. David Krauss. There we go. The kid who tells Rey that, according to his dad, the Ghostbusters are full of crap is played by Jason Reitman,
Starting point is 00:19:43 son of director Ivan Reitman, and also director of the new Ghostbusters movie. That's fun trivia. That is fun trivia. That's something. Here's some fun trivia. I don't know if it is fun. Bobby Brown, who appears in this brief cameo as a doorman, he has a son named Cassius.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And Annie Potts, who plays Janine, has a grandson called Cassius. Are they the same child? No. It's a coincidence. Just something I learned. Why do you have that information? I don't know. Were you independently researching these two?
Starting point is 00:20:10 I don't know why I have it, but it just pushed something important out of my brain. I don't know what that is, though, because it's gone. So you were looking at two family trees that were not connected. That's correct. And then went, that's worth bringing up. Two Cassii. Cassii, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:25 There was actually a minor story that was removed with Lewis trying to catch Slimer, mostly around the Ghostbusters headquarters, and it culminates in Slimer bringing him the bus and then he goes to whatever, which makes sense because Slimer just rolls in and is like, okay, we're friends, I guess. I think you see Slimer earlier in the Ghost House.
Starting point is 00:20:43 You do, that's right. Anyway, there you go. How do you feel about the Slimer remodel? Because he think you see Slimer earlier in the ghost house. You did, that's right. Anyway, there you go. How do you feel about the Slimer remodel? Because he's a new Slimer. Is he? I mean, he's the same Slimer. Yeah. But he's been given a real glow up.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I don't mind it. Yeah, it's fine. I honestly didn't. Okay. I don't. I don't and I didn't. Wow. I guess there's only one Slimer aficionado on this video.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Is it you? Yeah, it's me. Terrific. Terrific. Do you want to know about the first and early draft of the script? The one that was presumably better than this? Yes. Let's judge that right now.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Ackroyd wanted to contrast to the first film's climax atop a skyscraper by making a subterranean threat. Oh, Mole Men. Yeah, Mole Men. This draft followed Dana Barrett, who was kidnapped and taken to Scotland, where she discovered... Okay, we've gone too far. No, no, no. Loch Ness Monster.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Ghost of the Loch Ness Monster. Ghost Ness Monster. The Ghost Nect Monster, yes. Where she discovers a fairy ring and an underground civilization. This sounds like Hellboy. The Golden Army. Yeah. The Ghostbusters would have to travel through an underground tube over 2,000
Starting point is 00:21:49 miles long. This sounds like Mortal Kombat Annihilation. That would have taken three days to traverse. Did Dan Aykroyd go forward through time and steal a bunch of ideas from future movies? He may very well have. Well, Aykroyd eventually decided that retaining the New York setting would allow for continuity
Starting point is 00:22:05 and would benefit the story he wanted to tell while still allowing them to explore underground and that his first draft was really too far out. Too inaccessible. Well, he has said that he calls himself a kitchen sink rider. And the idea is he just goes, here's 50 crazy ideas
Starting point is 00:22:21 and then he gets Ramis or Murray or somebody to come in and go, this is too much. Yeah. Damn. And we will not appear in the movie Evolution, which is sort of a sequel to Ghostbusters spiritually. Kind of is, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Maybe we'll come back to it at some point. Anyways, I just wish this was more different and funnier. Same. It's just, it's fine. Yeah, look, I mean. It's much worse than I remember it being. Yep, same. Yeah. This, look, I mean. It's much worse than I remember it being. Yep, same. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:46 This one stung a little. Sigourney Weaver's still great in this. Like her performances. Yeah, completely great. Bill Murray's doing a lot of mugging in this. He's doing more mugging. He felt like he was, in the last one, it just felt like he was just being a jerk.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Yeah. Like his character was just that he's a jerk and sometimes he goes slightly too far. But in this one it's like you yell all the time you do and maybe because he was maybe it's because he's a tv star now he's always on yeah you know how we talk like this in real life now because we do too many youtube videos too many when i listen to myself in recordings it's the same voice as my inner monologue now and i think my brain's broken sometimes i run into people and i'm having a
Starting point is 00:23:23 conversation with them and they're like, did you just do a podcast? And I'm like, yeah, how did you know? And they're like, you're still doing the podcast thing. I can't help it, I tell them. It's hard to switch off. This is me all the time now. Anyway, box office busters, that famous segment. Great, I love it.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I need to stop saying famous segment because none of this is famous. None of this is known. That's true. Make it happen. Something's got to click eventually, right? That's trueing approach to youtube videos uh this had a 30 to 40 million dollar budget and it made 215 which is substantial however the previous did make 295 they also credit this movie's um like kind of a lower box office to Batman releasing a week later. So that would step on this massively.
Starting point is 00:24:07 So it would have done better if a big Batman movie didn't come out. You know what I mean? That's very true. But whose fault's that? Batman. Batman's fault. Get him, everyone. Get him.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Wow. We'll be right back here. Just watching you all get pulped by Batman. Anyways, this has been Caravan of Garbage and I'll tell you this much. We've got to come back and talk Ghostbusters
Starting point is 00:24:29 next week. They never made a third movie until recently and there's nothing in between with all the cast returning that we could look at,
Starting point is 00:24:37 is there Mason? Very true. There's nothing there that we could possibly sneak a peek at. So we're going to have to look at Ghostbusters 2016. That's right. We know about the video game. I feel like I have to look at ghostbusters 2016 that's right
Starting point is 00:24:45 we know about the video game just i feel like oh you've abandoned this bit already well i just go i'm gonna get the comments and i thought you were hoping for the comments oh maybe i'll take maybe i'll leave this in the extended okay great yeah to leverage engagement that's right so that's what i'm always talking about to people on the street i'm like we've got to leverage engagement and they're like, stop it. We're lining up at the bakery. Now you've got me talking like this. It's like a virus.
Starting point is 00:25:12 It's catching. So yeah, come back for Ghostbusters 2016. I'm interested to know what I think of that movie. I don't really remember. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be something, isn't it? It might not be. I wonder if it's better than this. We'll find out. That's what it said on the isn't it? It might not be. I wonder if it's better than this. We'll find out.
Starting point is 00:25:26 That's what it said on the poster when it came out. Yeah. It said better than this, and then it was just another, the Ghostbusters 2 poster on the new poster. Or maybe it's not better than your memories of Ghostbusters 2, but in reality it's actually a little bit better, or at least on par. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Anyways, if you do have suggestions for Caravan of Garbage, please leave them below. And I'm at MrSundayMovies on Twitter. I'm at WikipediaBrand on Twitter. Thank you again to Ben and Lawrence for the edit. And let's ghost bust out of here. Very nice. Ghost bust-o?
Starting point is 00:25:56 Ghost bust-go. No, you hit oil already. Good. Should I say slime? You hit slime. I hit a river of hate filled with slime. That's right. Love it.
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