The Weekly Planet - Godzilla 2014 - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: November 16, 2023

Godzilla 2014 managed to kick off a new era of monster movies, now titles the Monsterverse. Directed by Gareth Edwards of Rogue One/The Creator fame it became the latest americanized attempt to revamp Godzilla for the west after the disater that was Godzilla 1998. Whilst it might not be everyones cup of tea we thought it was pretty good with the inclusion of Bryan Cranston, new creatures in the form of the Muto's and the biggest Godzilla we had every seen. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage review!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome back, everybody, to Caravan of Garbage, where we're taking a deep dive. Well, deep dive. We don't deep dive. We take a surface-level appraisal of a film series. We mostly look at what is happening on the screen for most of the time. And sometimes we think of a funny little thing to say. Sometimes we don't.

Sometimes we just think of a thing to say. Sometimes we just beg for likes. That's right. Sometimes our great editors just assemble a joke from the random syllables we shoot out of our mouths. That is correct. We just shoot off our traps, half-formed thoughts, and Ben and Lawrence just get in there and they make their beautiful magic. Boy, do they. But not this week. Maybe. We'll see. Yeah. So we're, of course, diving deep into the Monsterverse. Not deep, you just said. Oh, yeah. We're going into the hollow earth of the Monsterverse. That's right. Is that better?

Yeah. So for those people who don't know godzilla 2014 kicked off a new cinematic universe next to the mcu it's probably one of the most successful modern shared universes i would agree sure yeah i think it feels like an accident though right do you think they prepared for failure yeah they planned for failure i will talk about it especially when we get to like the third and fourth one but yeah that's what i think happened. But this first one, Godzilla 2014, much like Robocop 2014, acted as a clean reboot. So this is not linked to the Japanese 1954 original nor the American adaptation,

which we've already looked at from 1998. Godzilla 1998, yes. That's right, yeah. This is a whole new thing entirely. And they brought in Gareth Edwards, people might know from Rogue One. That's right. And that other movie he made about robots and another movie he made about monsters that's right it was called monsters because this was his second movie after monsters uh-huh that was an

indie monster movie that he made by himself did all of the special effects it's pretty incredible and they took a look at that and they went can you make a godzilla movie and he went yeah probably and he did wow yeah all by himself all by himself wow yeah now look we'll talk about godzilla's screen time but the approach that he took in this was to look at it like jaws where you're talking about jaws and you're like where's jaws and jaws gonna get here when's jaws gonna jaws us when jaws isn't in the room people are gonna ask where jaws is he's in the water He's never in the room. No, rarely. Yeah. Except for that time in Jaws 3D where he broke through the glass and then he was in the room.

There is one scene where Roy Scheider and Richard Dreyfuss are in a warehouse and Jaws is in the back. He's at the poker table. He's all in. Not eating you. That's it. Now, there is also a bunch of parallels between this and Jaws. I should say there's two because the Brody family is actually named

after the Jaws' protagonist. Oh, Jaws Brody. J there's two, because the Brody family is actually named after the Jaws' protagonist. Oh, Jaws Brody. Jaws Brody, that's right. Boy, 2014, a very innocent time before we knew Elizabeth Olsen and Aaron Taylor-Johnson kissing was wrong. Because now we know they're siblings, obviously. Yeah, not allowed to do that. Ew.

Illegal. That's right. And yuck. Yep. How do you feel about this one, though? I enjoyed it a lot. It is, I mean, you're not wrong in saying that it is quite slow-paced, and there's, you know, it's...

I like that about it, though, I should specify. It's a slow burn, yeah. But if the monstering was less impressive, I think I'd overall be disappointing, you know? Boo and why? Exactly. But, you know, when we get Godzilla, the effects are incredible, the Godzilla model incredible, you know, the monster battles, the sense of scale.

We've talked about this before, because he recently did the movie The Creator. Yes. And mixed reviews, I would say, but I enjoyed it, not least because of the incredible sense of scale. He knows how to show you an epic scene, an epic landscape,

and you go, whoa, that's big. And he goes, I did it like that on purpose. That's right. Wow. Well, you've made me feel small, that's big. And he goes, I did it like that on purpose. That's right. Wow. Not an accident. Well, you've made me feel small, Gareth Edwards. You bastard. Yeah, you son of a bitch.

Well, similarly. I get you, but you're putting your hand on the top of my head and I'm swinging my punches and I can't get to you. You crafty bloke. I mean, one of my favourite things about Rogue One as well is that same thing. They make Star Destroyer, which is enormous, feel even bigger and more intimidating. He's just really good at doing that.

Do you think Godzilla could defeat a Star Destroyer, James? No. Interesting. Oh, maybe. Because the Star Destroyer could just start really high and shoot a laser. Yeah, if it was in orbit, I think, around a planet, it could shoot a big laser. Yeah. But I think it was just like sitting on a dock, like on the ground yeah and there was nobody in it and it was not

functioning i think uh god's jaws i think godzilla could just punch it you think godzilla and jaws could i think they could team up i think godzilla could take jaws's tail and swing him around we call that the fastball special you know it used to be colossus and wolverine but now it's godzilla and jaws now that everybody is an example of ben and lawrence fixing a joke in editing don't make Cicero, Cicero, Cicero. like a lot in this movie should have just been the lead in the movie right but of course in this movie he is he is uh our title is he's brody what are we doing what's what's what are the character's names great question let me check he plays the father of aaron taylor johnson's character yes and uh and and he believes that some years ago his wife was killed by something sort of lurking underneath the earth.

He doesn't know quite what it was, but he spent the intervening years between then and now obsessing over what it might be. He's kooking it. He's cranking it. He's kooking it and cranking it. That's right. But he's right. He's on TikTok. Hey, guys, I'm kooking it and I'm cranking it.

Let's go. Yeah, I think all of that works. I'm going to tell my son about it. Let's see what he thinks. Oh, he thinks I'm cranking it. Let's go. Yeah, I think all of that works. I'm going to tell my son about it. Let's see what he thinks. Oh, he thinks I'm crazy. But yeah, that loss of his wife is really effective. He gets totes of mosh. And I think that all works.

He feels like a real character. Nice. Like genuinely. And I think having the narrative then shift over to Aaron Taylor Johnson and his sister Elizabeth Olsen, I don't think that's a strong kind of human connection. Yeah, but the thing is, Bryan Cranston's character died. So what are they going to do?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I mean. Yeah, I forgot. Yeah, and there's nothing you can do after that. So, you know, it's got to go down Aaron Taylor Johnson, I reckon. Plus, he's a tough guy Marine. Yeah. You know?

He's a tough guy Marine. You know, if we're going to imagine a guy standing on the shoulder of godzilla firing a machine gun or whatever maybe in future movies yeah it's not gonna be brian cranston well i guess not yeah unless he you know eats some goo and grows or whatever yeah absolutely giant cranston yeah sure but also brian cranston himself even though he enjoys this movie and he likes being in it he said it was a narrative mistake to kill off his character joe brody that was his name interesting joe brody i love that that's an all-american name absolutely let's talk about godzilla itself okay i feel like it really does have that terrifying presence even off screen you catch glimpses of it you cut away which we'll talk about there's

that moment where a bunch of soldiers fire some flares into the night and they swoop past his scaly form. That's right. And then they're like, ah, and then they just start firing bullets. Imagine if you were the one guy that just dropped him with a lucky shot. Like you hit him in the back and he's like, ah, my sciatica. He just fell over. You know? Oh, my God.

Incredible, yeah. And the complaint of this is that he appears in this movie only fully after the first hour, and he's only in it for around 12 minutes in total. But the thing about that is, compared to all the other Godzilla movies that have come before it, this is actually one of the highest amounts of screen time that a Godzilla has had. Yeah. I think maybe at this point people were used to more action, more monsters and all of that.

Iron Man's in the title, you see him all the time. Godzilla's in the title. Where's Godzilla? Where's Godzilla? Where's Godzilla, you You see him all the time. Godzilla's in the title. Why don't we see him? Where's Godzilla? Where's Godzilla? Where's Godzilla? You know what I mean? He's Jaws in it.

Absolutely. And I'm not super familiar with the original Japanese Godzilla movies, but I have seen the recent Shin Godzilla, which sort of harkens back to the originals. And let me tell you, there's a lot of people in boardrooms discussing what to do with Godzilla for a very long time. And does it end up being like, we're just going to let him run amok? Yeah. And by that, I mean, we have to. Pretty much.

We can't do anything. James, they use a special freezing gas. Oh. They give him a big chill. Does he like it? Or does he go, brr? That one. He goes, brr.

Yeah. So yeah, I completely get that. Yeah. I mean, you know, the- It's expensive also. It's expensive. But yeah, but the, you know, again, It's expensive also. It's expensive, but yeah. But, you know, again, like I said,

I think the action, the giant monster action we see, I think more than makes up for it. In this one, at least. I completely agree. I feel like, though, it does confuse me a bit because they'll often cut away from a big fight or a big climactic moment with Godzilla, and it just has me wonder, like, what happens?

Because the fight ensues, and then do the monsters then separate and go drink a big gallon of Gatorade or whatever. Absolutely, yeah. What's happening in between? Do they just decide to pause and be like, let's... And Godzilla's coach comes up to him and he goes, you're a bum, Godzilla.

You're a bum. Yeah, fair enough. Get back in there. Use your laser breath. I didn't think he'd be using my laser breath. Now, the design of this, producer Thomas Hull made it clear that the design of Godzilla had to be accurate. He said, and this was definitely a shot at Godzilla 1998.

Make sure it doesn't look like Godzilla 1998 because it sucked. Well, that, I don't even hate the design of that. But I think if you're a Godzilla fan, that's not Godzilla, right? That's the discussion that we've had. He said, I'm always puzzled as a fan when you take things so far, it's unrecognizable. And that works to me. And this was Gareth Edwards' approach.

The way I tried to view it was, imagine Godzilla was a real creature and someone from Toho saw him in the 50s and ran back to the studio to make a movie about the creature and was trying his best to remember and draw it. And in our film, we get to see him for real. It was important that this felt like a Toho Godzilla. And I think it just nails every aspect of that.

It does kind of, it embellishes on things and there's more kind of detail. I think he's the biggest Godzilla. He is, we're going to talk about scale, definitely, yeah. I think all of that is really, really effective and the design elements in its face, it's got like a bit of bear and dog and eagle, and it does give him almost like this regal kind of-

Ooh, a regal eagle. Yeah, a regal eagle. He's a real regal eagle. I just think it's really terrific. And just the texture of the skin and just all of it. It's man in a suit enough without making him look like a guy in a rubber suit. And look, if I could i and i say this

every time the next time they make a godzilla film i just i just want and you know this james i just want when there's the big monster battle happening i want one singular frame where it just cuts to two men in really obvious rubber suits fighting just versions of those two monsters and it's just really cheap looking uh and then i think you suggested i think this is a great idea don't put it in every print so sometimes somebody comes out and goes did you see that frame and somebody else has seen it you know on the different days like what are you talking about you've gone mad you've gone brian cranston mad that's right and he was killed yeah how do you feel about the change of origin because in this universe i'm not familiar enough with it well you know because he's a creation of like nuclear technology oh yes not always but often okay but in this instance

he's been he's a product of evolution he's been around for a million trillion years he's basically the reset button if anything horrible shows up yeah he's like well i'm also horrible and i mean to fucking stomp you out that's right god but that the first reveal of him where you see the foot come down at the airport and i know there was a similar thing in the Godzilla 1998 trailer. Right on the top of the Tyrannosaurus Rex. Maybe I'm just impressed by a big foot. But not big foot. Not that impressed.

You're not impressed by big foot. Not that big a foot if we're being real. Yeah, that's true. I mean, look at Shaq. He's got a big foot. Yeah, I reckon like they probably make a commercially available Nike Jordan that would fit a big foot. Okay, sure. But not a Godzilla. No, but not a godzilla no absolutely not yeah and just as women our life stages come with unique

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They really lean into the weight of the movement and going slowly past a bridge or under the water and tilting battleships and all of that. It's just wonderful. But here's something else I think is wonderful. Go on. Now, they could have easily gone with like classic Godzilla enemies in this, but they decided to create something new.

Yeah, right, okay. And you liked that. Yeah, I did actually. I thought it was okay. Wow. I kind of feel like. Come on, man. Look, I kind of feel.

Come on, mate. I kind of feel like they should have gone with a classic Godzilla monster foe, even though I'm not really that familiar with Godzilla monster foes. I don't know. I mean, I think they're an interesting design. They remind me of, remember the scene in Terminator 2 when the T-1000 is chasing the good guys in the car and the T-1000 is answering in like little silver golf clubs?

Absolutely. They look like monsters made entirely of those golf clubs. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. I think it's a great analogy or metaphor. Okay, fine. It's great. I said good point, but I meant to a great analogy or metaphor okay fine it's it's great i said good point but i mean i meant to say great analogy thanks man um yeah so the design team took

inspiration from jurassic park alien king kong and starship troopers you can see a bit of that starship troopers in it especially yeah absolutely yeah i think the insectoid kind of nature of it really works oh the dog's here speaking of bloody bloody monsters. I know, Ollie. Ollie, what's your favourite Godzilla? Is it Godzilla 1998? Yeah, it would be. Or Godzilla, do you reckon? Yep. Or Godzilla 2014? Slash to the modern day.

Tell me what you think about. Yeah, that's right. I also think another thing they did well with that particular creature is they work in its lore and the way it works really well. And I don't know whether it all adds up in terms of, like, how the mating rituals work and egg sacks and which one can fly like i don't i don't look into it that much but there's enough detail there where you go yeah this is a this is a thing right yeah and they've you know and it works well for the plot you know they need the they need nuclear energy for for mating purposes and there

used to be a bunch on the earth just laying about but now it's all contained in those pesky bombs those pesky bombs always making trouble out there so that's that's good you know yeah drives that plot forward i like that well speaking of bombs man i love in a godzilla movie you know or a lot of these monster verse movies it always kind of comes down to you know the military's like we've tried everything including bombing godzilla but what if we bomb Godzilla just a little bit more, just a little bit harder? Come on, let me use one of those pesky nuclear bombs. They're always sitting there so pesky and I just want to use one.

Come on. Oh, my God, you're not wrong. And, you know, of course, the famous line, which is in the trailer, let them fight. Yes. You know, Ken Watanabe is like, let's let them fight. And we've talked about this before, but what he really should have said was they're just going to fight. Yeah. They're just going to have to fight. Yes. You know, Ken Watanabe is like, let's let them fight. And we've talked about this before, but what he really should have said was

they're just going to fight. Yeah. They're just going to have to fight. There's nothing we can do about it. Yeah. Let them fight or step in between them and they'll kill you instantly. What do you, what do you, come on. Ken. What do you think, you could broker a peace between them? Ken. Ken. Is that what you want, Ken? Probably.

Ah, the skydiving sequence is great. Again, just, I mean, you could have just had them skydiving past Godzilla. And that's fine, I guess. But just with the trails of smoke and all of that, just a beautiful vigil. It makes a great trailer and poster as well, Mason, which I love. And as we mentioned, the final fight at the end, the two-on-one attack, just terrific. Really, really good. Just knocking down buildings and each other.

You know, all of that. The way that the scales light up on his back and then, you know, it shoots the atomic breath and you see, like, the heat and the smoke and all of that, like, pouring off it. I mean, down the throat, tears off the head. Oh, God. That is a premium move.

Yeah. Absolutely. Should have dunked it like a basketball. Like the time Godzilla played basketball against Charles Barkley. That's exactly right. I think, though, you know, he only uses the atomic breath right at the end. And you might be like, well, I mean, why didn't he use it earlier, obviously. I think there should have been some foreshadowing.

Like maybe he looks like in the window of a skyscraper and somebody's doing a fatality in Mortal Kombat. He's like, oh, remember that for later. Something to think about. That's right. I've been fighting these guys non-lethally this whole time. Maybe he watched some video game footage of the game Primal Rage. Probably.

Probably. That's an old game and he's an old guy. He's an old guy, mate. He's an old fella. And something I guess that has been talked to death, and I find this really amusing, when Godzilla gets up and leaves and everybody's like, yeah, we love you, Godzilla.

You won. King of the monsters, question mark? Yeah. But why is, I don't know. Why does the public know that he's the hero potentially? I think they're just happy that one. Because he won. Yeah, he won.

They're just there like, we succumb to our scaley new overlord. Yeah. We love you. Don't kill us. Because they don't know the other one was going to do a bunch of eggs and stuff, do they? to our scaley new overlord. Yeah. We love you. Don't kill us. Because they don't know the other one was going to do a bunch of eggs and stuff, do they? That's true. They don't know that. Also, Godzilla probably killed 10,000 people on the way out by accident.

Yeah. You know? Taken off into the ocean. He certainly ruined a lot of people's insurance premiums. You're not wrong, mate. You are not bloody wrong. Anyways, it's time for a segment of the show that we're going to be doing every week so we know what's up. It's called How Big Is It?

Oh yeah, nice. We're talking scale, Mason. Yes. So in this film, Godzilla was scaled to be 108.2 meters or 355 feet if you don't use the metric system because you're a cave person. Hehehehe. And weighing 90,000 short tons, which is 82,000 metric tons.

Ooh. Yeah. What's that in stone? Oh, who cares? Making it the largest. What's that in fathoms? Well, that's a great question. Isn't it though?

What's that in parsecs? That's a great question too. You've counted my great question with another great question of your own. Happy to help, if that's what I was doing. Yep. my great question with another great question of your own. Happy to help

if that's what I was doing. Yep. So this does make this version of Godzilla at this point in time the largest film version. Oh. Yeah.

And I don't disagree. It's pretty cool. Because you can't argue with hard facts and science and numbers. He's a big fella. Mm-hmm. I hope he doesn't make

that his entire personality. I know, right? You meet a guy and they're just like big. Yeah. Because that's their personality. What else do you do? Uh... My heart struggles to pump blood to my brain're just like big. Yeah. Because that's their personality. What else do you do?

My heart struggles to pump blood to my brain. I do that. Okay. Oh, that counts. All right. On your way. On your way, buddy. And now we're going to talk TriviaZilla.

Trivia section of the show, Mason. Here's some tidbits. Some bits and pieces that I can tell everybody about this movie. Yeah. So this was a long road to get this version made. It was a long road. To get this version made of Godzilla 2014. More successful than Robocop 2014. Wow.

This particular version, it originated from a proposed Godzilla project by Yoshimitsu Banno, who was the director of 1971's Godzilla vs. Hedorah, and it was tentatively titled Godzilla 3D to the Max. Oh, I love that. Yeah, man. Toho Studios provided sound engineer Eric Adal. Great sound engineering on this, by the way, Eric. We really like it. Well, I do.

I don't want to speak for you. I mean, it's also hard to talk about that on a YouTube video because a lot of the time you put in any sound of any kind or any music. It's like, no, we're climbing this. That's ours now. Your video's our video now. We're coming to your house. We own that too.

They actually got the original 1954 recording of Godzilla's roar and of course upgraded it to modern age to make it more organic and contemporary. They put a rap in the middle.

That's right. They put a beatbox and a TikTok in it. That's right. This one has a DJ in it. At the end, it just makes the TikTok, end of TikTok noise.

Bloop, bloop, bloop. The sound designers also used 12-foot high, 18-foot wide speakers to blast Godzilla's roar at nearly 100,000 watts to get a good idea of the vocal power and strength. The idea also was to have Godzilla originally to be found preserved in a Siberian glacier.

Oh, right next to Captain America. That's right. Well, they actually changed it because of Man of Steel. They went, he was in a glacier, wasn't he? Sort of, I guess. His ship was. Leave him alone. Yeah.

A lot of stuff can be in ice. Yeah. Get over it. Get over it. God. What are you not going to put him in ice because I've got some fish fingers in the freezer? Is that why?

Is that why? Is that why? Yeah, it's as good a reason as any. Oh, I should have fish fingers later. Now, Andy Serkis, he actually consulted on this, on how to make realistic animal movements. He said, I don't know. I've never seen one of these before.

What is it? It's frigging crazy. Yeah, he was basically showing them how to do that with a human body, but he was not involved in any of the mo-cap for this movie. Must be a pretty sweet consultant fee though, Mason. Is he a mocap guy, Godzilla? Is he completely... In this there's a bit of mocap in it.

Isn't there? Yeah, absolutely. I should check that if that's true. I'm pretty sure I read that, yeah. And last bit of God's trivia, whatever we said it was. The film had a dimmer brightness in the home video release than the theatrical versions. It was later revealed that porting the film into home video

caused some technical difficulties which resulted in the lowered brightness release than the theatrical versions. It was later revealed that porting the film into home video caused some technical difficulties, which resulted in the lowered brightness. Despite these concerns, Warner Brothers apparently have never re-released the colour-corrected version. So there you go. If you're looking for a great home video version... Good luck, idiots. Fuck off.

Yeah. Warner Brothers wants you to fuck off. That's right. And buy Justice League 2017 if you want something bright and colourful. That's right. Anyways, box office-wise, on a budget of $160 million,

it made $529 million. Pretty solid film, pretty good success. Nice. And it set things in place for more movies and then a TV show. The movie also was so successful that two sequels were greenlit only two days after it premiered.

There was a bit of a drop-off because I think there was that kind of word of mouth that only kind of shows up at the end or whatever. Oh yeah, I remember that. But it still did very, very well considering Mason. I've got some trivia. Let's do trivia more! Well, I was going to say, also, if you

watch this on home video, and good luck getting a good version, if you slow down the opening credits, all the redacted info you see, all the Monarch documents. They say funny little things. Okay, let's go. For example, this one says, the introduction of Bryan Cranston, you get a little Walter White reference.

What does it say? Walter White. Ah, Walter White. That's a bit of fun. Here's his character from Malcolm in the Middle. This one says, even with nuclear weapons, there is no guarantee that the creatures will succumb. Evidence shows that it is likely the creatures will succumb. Evidence shows that

it is likely the creatures will come back with David Strathairn's head. Who? He's in the movie. Is he? Yeah.

Which one's he? He's one of the guys. He's one of the guys. He's one of the boys. Oh, that's fun stuff, Mason. Anyway. It's good to have

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