The Weekly Planet - Indiana Jones & The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: June 22, 2023

It's the end of the road. We've reached peak Indiana Jones in the 2008 sequel, coming 19 years after the last in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Harrison Ford is back older and wiser to rekindle his lo...ve with Marion, build a relationship with his awful son Mutt and find a glass skull or whatever. Look it might not be the best but it certainly has a lot of stuff in it. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/kxw8tPGNi2kHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:35 Visit heartandstroke.ca. Welcome back, everybody, to Caravan of Garbage, where we are wrapping up the Indiana Jones film series. The tetralogy. Mmm hmm. Some people think it's a quadrilogy, but that's not a real thing. Whoa. It's a Tetralogy I think, maybe, probably.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I'm not 100% sure, but I started the sentence and I'm going to finish it now. I'm finishing it now. Four movies, Tetralogy. I admire your confidence. Thanks. You feeling confident enough to allow everybody to leave a like on this video? Yes. Great! Yes? Yeah. Thanks. You feeling confident enough to allow everybody to leave a like on this video? Yes. Great.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Yes. Yeah. So, Mason. Yes. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Yes. Finally, we got here. The good one.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Finally. You're going to continue this joke for the whole video? I think I stopped it last video. I think you might have, yeah. Yeah. So, here's the thing, right? We had a bunch of Indiana Jones before this, like leading up to it. Did we?
Starting point is 00:01:27 I mean, after 89. Oh. So there were lots of books. There were a few comics. There were a whole lot of pretty solid video games. There was some edutainment, as we know. Well, that's the thing, because Harrison Ford actually reprised his role as Indiana Jones in the young Indiana Jones Chronicles.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Yeah, he's got a beard because he was filming The Fugitive at the time. Oh, right. Because there's definitely, if I recall, there's definitely another actor who plays a very old Indiana Jones with an eye patch. Yeah, there's a few. There's like a little kid and then there's like Sean Patrick Flannery age and there might be some others in there as well.
Starting point is 00:01:57 An actor of Sean Patrick Flannery age. That's right. Did they get Sean Patrick Flannery or did they just want somebody? He wasn't available. Emboise. Imagine you're Sean Patrick Flannery and the audition sheet comes out and they're like, we want somebody of Sean Patrick Flannery age. You're like, I'm Sean Patrick Flannery age.
Starting point is 00:02:13 No. Not quite. Not quite, though. Not what we're looking for. Here's the thing about this one as well. Go on. It just feels late. I feel like they missed a trick making one in the mid 90s to make it feel like the old ones
Starting point is 00:02:28 because it doesn't feel like any of them how do you feel do you feel like the dial the upcoming dial of destiny is too late to 2000 and late well i haven't seen it yeah right but it's probably too you think it's past its prime okay i mean again i haven't seen it okay let me ask you this about this movie particularly yeah having just re-watch. Okay, let me ask you this about this movie particularly. Yeah. Having just rewatched it presumably recently, what do you think about it now? What did you think about it then when it came out?
Starting point is 00:02:53 It came out and I thought it was okay. I think it dips wildly at a point, which we'll talk about. We might have the exact same time code. That's right. And then I spent a long time like really not liking it and watching it again, I'm like, it's fine. Yeah, look, I remember intensely disliking it when it came out. I haven't seen it since. I didn't see it again at the cinemas.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Why would I? Didn't see it on any kind of home media. Didn't watch it on VHS. So this is my first rewatch and I think a lot of it is pretty good. You know what I think is maybe tricking some people? Yeah. The movie has moved to the 1950s, and everybody seems a little bit more colourful.
Starting point is 00:03:30 It's less of a grubby universe, I think. Yeah. And I think people are like, this has an unreality to it. I don't think the unreality is a result of the era, because I don't hate the concept of this. Oh, no, there's two unrealities to this. One is that, moving the year into the 50s, and the other one is the incredibly shonky CGI.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Sure. But we'll get to that, I'm sure, later. Absolutely. But where do you set a movie when Harrison Ford is in his 60s? That's true. You have to set it in this era. Like, I don't hate the idea of aliens and Kate Winslet and – not Kate Winslet.
Starting point is 00:04:02 What the fuck's her name? What's her name? Kate. She's a strap. Blanchett. There we go. And Kate Blanchett heading up a bunch of Russians. It's fine as a concept.
Starting point is 00:04:13 In the young Indiana Jones Chronicles... Oh, here we go. He met Dracula. Yes. He could meet some aliens. And what, he learned about blood types or something? No, they killed him. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:04:22 All right. Well, you're right. So, you know, Indiana Jones is meant to be a pulp adventure hero. And in the era of the original movies, he would have been exploring ancient ruins and meeting supernatural creatures, or having supernatural
Starting point is 00:04:35 experiences and so forth. And in the 1950s people started getting obsessed with little green men and UFOs and that sort of stuff. And if his character had continued in pulp novels or radio plays or whatever they were doing at the time or movie serials, he would have been searching for that sort of thing. It's like the character of Rick Dangerous, James.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Oh, yeah. From the computer game series Rick Dangerous where originally... The game's Rick Dangerous, James. That's exactly right. Never played this. Well, Rick Dangerous, James, originally was an Indiana Jones-style hero, a rip-off, you might say, and then in 1990 in Rick Dangerous 2 he became more of a Flash Gordon-style hero.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Then this movie came out a mere 18 years later. Coincidence? I think not. It sounds like a coincidence. But you're right. I'm not mad about the turn to aliens. I am a little bit mad that they were like, the vernacular had to change.
Starting point is 00:05:26 They're like, no, they're actually interdimensional beings. You know what it is? I've just thought it. You know what it is? Yeah. There's too much explanation. Okay, sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:34 There is a lot of like looking at a thing and being like, what's this about? And what does this mean? Is this Mayan? Is this interdimensional? Who's this guy? What does he know? But the thing is, if we can jump to the end just briefly
Starting point is 00:05:44 and then go back, there's too much explanation as to what was happening okay like john hurt who is a nice addition to this franchise i think is just like it's definitely interdimensional beings is it give me a little bit of ambiguity there well the reason that happened is because lucas for years was like i want to do aliens and spielberg was like i don't want to do another alien movie i've made a couple alien movies already. It's not interesting to me. So Lucas said, well, let's do interdimensional beings. And Spielberg literally
Starting point is 00:06:12 went, whatever. And that's how we got here. As long as we do not use the word aliens and someone says, yes, that is what this is. Why not do aliens though? Yeah, I feel like you're right. There's too many levels of complexity. And nobody would say that in the 50s. No.
Starting point is 00:06:25 It's a dimensional beings, probably. But anyway, John Hurt, it was nice to see him. Yep. Ray Winston and Jim Broadbent are also in this, and they're great. But I think two people that were missing, and we see them on little... Yeah. We see them on Indy's desk in little production stills that have been turned into family photographs.
Starting point is 00:06:41 We don't have Marcus Brody, and we don't have Henry Jones Sr. Yeah, one passed away and Sean Connery was like, I'm very retired. Thanks, Alex G. And that's why he didn't want to re-appear in this one. But I think it was,
Starting point is 00:06:53 and it's nice to have. Karen Allen? It's nice to have Karen Allen. Yeah. But the fact that everybody else is new, there feels like a disconnect there. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. I didn't hate Shia LaBeouf in this.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I don't like him. Initially, I did, because he shows up in the full Marlon Brando with the weird, you know, the hat they had. I know. And the thing about that is- It's sad. It feels sad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Because you know how they borrowed Indiana Jones' look? Yeah. They're like, well, let's take an iconic, like a different iconic movie star look and just slap it on this fucking idiot. Yeah. The thing is, James, obviously they're like, okay, well,
Starting point is 00:07:27 you want him to be the most iconic version of that from that era and that is Marlon Brando. But the thing about that look is no one, including Marlon Brando, can actually pull off that hat. You see that movie? It's embarrassing, that hat.
Starting point is 00:07:40 No one looks good in that hat. But then he loses the hat fairly quickly and I'm like, okay. Yeah, leather jacket and a knife is fine. He looks like he is in a Marlon Brando cosplay. Yeah. Furry cosplay. No, that's not it.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I can't back that up. But then I'm like, okay, I'm settling into this character. I don't mind this. I liked his back and forth between Indy and Mutt. I quite enjoyed it for the most part. I believed it. Yeah, I think probably like my real world dislike for Shia LaBeouf is definitely creeping into this.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yeah, right. But I don't think in terms of additions, if you compare him to any of the previous companions, literally any of them, he doesn't stack up. Right, okay. And like the fake kind of the faux toughness that he's doing, I don't feel it. It's very much that concept the fake kind of the faux toughness that he's doing i don't i don't doesn't i don't feel it it's very much that concept of like this is the guy you all love this
Starting point is 00:08:30 guy because at this point he'd done a few things he'd done transformers transformers the first one he'd done constantine yeah uh other things that we would recognize holes holes i think they should have given it to like maybe josh hartnett Yeah, perfect. That would have been great. But yeah, you're right. He'd done a few roles. He was a big box office draw seemingly. And they were like, well, we can't miss out on this guy. We've got to get him in. We've got to put him in that stupid hat.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Absolutely. Here's the thing about Harrison Ford in this. He does kind of feel like listless for some of it. Just kind of like, all right, well, I've done a lot of this, but I think I can go along with whatever's happening here. And I'll say this of The Force Awakens. Okay. That's right.
Starting point is 00:09:10 That's right. I'm going to compliment The Force Awakens. For SEO, can you say something about The Last Jedi as well? Sure. Okay, great. He's not in that movie. There you go. That's true.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Controversial. There's an energy that Harrison Ford has in The Force Awakens, which I don't feel is here. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that being said said i think he looks good like he looks strong i remember him looking a lot older yeah right then like seeing it now i'm like oh he looks terrific yeah like he's clearly like he's kept up with it there's a moment at the start where you just see him like climbing some boxes and he's just he's just moving really. You'll believe a man can climb some boxes. But a guy that age moving like that, that's unusual.
Starting point is 00:09:49 There's a moment where he's just in a white T-shirt. He looks fucking incredible. He looks incredible. Yeah. And he's facing off against some of the most intense actors from network television at the time. The Janet from Scrubs, who I love. Some other guys.
Starting point is 00:10:03 The guy from the OC, Alan Dale. That's right. Australia's own Alan Dale is in that room. Neighbours' own Alan Dale. That's true. I also feel like there's an in-canon reason for why Indiana Jones is still like this. Roids?
Starting point is 00:10:17 No, but maybe. I'll talk about it later. Here's the thing I do like about this. I think the opening action sequence, I know nobody likes the ferrets and whatever. I agree. I know they're not ferrets. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Let's just all move past it. Move past the ferrets, folks. The bit where he's taking on all the Russians and he's just tearing through them and Mac is the only one in that warehouse that is just like, this is a fucking lunatic. You need to back up from this guy.
Starting point is 00:10:41 He's got to kill all of us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can see the rage rising in him and he's going to snap. He's going to kill all of us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can see the rage rising in him, and he's going to snap. He's going to do one of his signature big punches. That's right. And you are all in a lot of trouble. He's going to punch three to four of you at a time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah, when he comes out of the trunk of the car. You know what's interesting about that sequence, and I hadn't thought about it? Right at the start, there's the moment where the teens go past in their car, and you think something is going to happen? Like you think the teens are going to be Russian operatives or something and they're going to crash into the army vehicle
Starting point is 00:11:13 and they're going to attack, whatever. They just leave. What's their adventure going on? Was that Archie and the gang? It's just a nod to like... Are they heading to Riverdale? Yeah, they're heading to Riverdale. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:22 For a sock hop and a malt shop? Probably. I thought so. I think it's just a nod. For a sock hop and a malt shop? Probably. I thought so. I think it's just a nod to like George Lucas' love of, you know, that era. It was the American Graffiti Kids. Exactly. They were going to do some American graffiti. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I also love that the American government. Hamburger, you would say. That's right. Apple pie. Big glowing neon sign that says. Marlon Brando's stupid hat. Malt shop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I also believe that the US government would just put an alien in a box and forget about it. Yeah. And just, where is it? Somewhere in here. Yeah. Should we check in on it? Nah, it's probably alright. It's probably fine.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Who's going to go there? Put it next to the box that's got God in it. I love that. I think that's great. What if the alien and God have a conversation and they want to get out of here? Well, we locked the boxes. And we put some other boxes on top of those boxes, so they're not getting out.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Speaking of boxes, the fridge moment. Yeah. Now, I know that this has become like a thing. It's the nuke the fridge. It's the jumping the shark of this particular franchise. There was an era for jumping the shark as well. This idea came from an early Back to the Future script where the original idea for time travel was a fridge in a nuclear explosion oh i see but and the thing about this is i just i know it's unrealistic
Starting point is 00:12:34 i just i don't care i didn't care this i don't know yeah and i think do you remember in like temple of doom they drop out of a plane in a in. They do silly things all the time. And I love the reveal, like the silhouette of Indiana Jones with the nuclear explosion, like kind of ushering in this new era. Oh, my God. I love that. And he said this is ushering in a new era. Is it good? Well, it's been better, but this is definitely a new era.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Wow, that can really do more than one old man with a whip. I feel a little bit past my use-by date, honestly. You know what he should have done? Jumped in the Ark of the Covenant. Yeah, absolutely. He should have taken a nuclear-powered journey with God and they could have had a chat. I also think the motorcycle chase through the uni is a little bit of fun.
Starting point is 00:13:20 That's a bit of fun. I like that he's still teaching kind of on the fly. I wonder whether all of his students, this is the first time they've seen him do anything like this. Yeah, right. So they're just like,
Starting point is 00:13:29 what is this? Imagine seeing like a professor or high school teacher, you know, just tear through the university on a motorcycle.
Starting point is 00:13:37 James, I know you're like, well, it'd be a big thing for seeing your teacher on a big motorcycle having a big chase, but just imagine a teacher
Starting point is 00:13:44 doing anything out of school. Oh my God. Oh my oh my king oh these guys are the movies i saw my teacher at the shop what was he buying i don't know regular shop stuff t-shirt that happened to me a bit oh yeah kids freak out when they see you in the real world but the thing about this movie is gone as it goes on the the modern kind of effects of the day and style kind of takes over there's that soft the hobbit kind of glow james it's one hour and 20 minutes it's exactly what happens they end up in the jungle yeah there's a chase and there's a big cutting machine a big cgi cutting machine the thing about that scene is also it doesn't look bad all of the time they really did have a stretch that they
Starting point is 00:14:21 like ran back and forth through it was like the scene in The Matrix Reloaded where it changes to CGI when it's Neo fighting all the Agent Smiths
Starting point is 00:14:31 and he's fighting about 20 Agent Smiths and they're all real stuntmen and then they're like okay bring in 50 more Agent Smiths and obviously
Starting point is 00:14:37 there wasn't enough room on the basketball court it wasn't enough Hugo Weaving doesn't have that many brothers that's true
Starting point is 00:14:42 he has cousins but you know he's beefing with those cousins. So he's got a lot of cousins, man. Yeah. And so they just switched to all CGI and it just, you can immediately tell. The monkeys and the swinging and. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:55 The monkeys. The point at which Shia LaBeouf is doing the splits between two different jeeps while sword fighting and he keeps getting hit in the nuts with branches and he's still doing it. What is, no, that's... I mean, you do that for real? Yeah. That's the best stunt of all time. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Jean-Claude Van Damme would do it, you know, to advertise a mineral water or something. Or mint mobile or something. Mint mobile. But it's not real and it doesn't look real. It doesn't have any weight to it. Yeah. And they continue with that for a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:15:22 There's even the scene at the end where they're all sort of like sitting around in the ruins and they're like, boy, that for a lot of it. There's even the scene at the end where they're all sort of like sitting around in the ruins and they're like, boy, that was a big adventure we had. And you'd be like, yeah, it was, but it's undercut by the fact that they're nowhere. Yeah. They're in a void and there's some brickwork and the rest is green. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the
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Starting point is 00:16:26 Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. It's green. Yeah. And you couldn't go to a real place for that? A place? Top of a convenience store? Boy, we should have had a lot of adventures here.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Boy. I bought a t-shirt down there. Isn't this where they film Clerks? Boy, what an adventure. That's right. The thing is as well, and this really surprised me, Spielberg didn't shoot this movie
Starting point is 00:16:49 in digital. And this was in the era where they were doing that. Like the previous two Star Wars movies had done it. And here's a quote from him that says, It looks like we shot it
Starting point is 00:16:58 three years after Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. You'd never know there was 20 years between shooting. And that might be what the raw footage looks like with a bit of tweaks, but that's, you can tell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:10 You can really tell. I know you mentioned Mac and you're like, I like him or whatever. Who's Mac? Ray Winston. Oh, yeah. I don't think he's funny or interesting. And again, it's that layers upon layers of like i'm an a um i'm a double cross dude no i'm a double agent i'm a yeah it's just like i don't know i think they just because they
Starting point is 00:17:30 were like part of the trope of indiana jones is somebody's going to betray him at some point so they had to throw that guy in okay great but he's again just as a as a general companion you meet along the way he's no jonathan reese davies as an example i think if maybe if they had kept them side by side why don't you have a photo of Jonathan Rhys-Davies on his desk? He probably did somewhere amongst the papers. It's got the boom mic in the frame. It's just like, whatever, take it from the making of it. We don't care.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I also feel like where this falls down is that it's really light on the horror elements of the previous movies. There's a moment where a bunch of Russians get torched by a jet engine and it just feels like some guy's just being engulfed in CGI flame and nothing. The fire ants or the giant ant situation. Exactly. Much better, I feel, than the CGI rats from the third movie, Mason. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Remember when I said that and a lot of people yelled at me that they weren't CGI? I just want people to know that's a thing I believe. You didn't miss a joke that I said. Not you, Mason. I'm telling everybody. I miss tons of jokes. And you know it ends with Cate Blanchett.
Starting point is 00:18:30 It's a lot of power and I want all the power, but it's too much power, et cetera. Her head should have popped. Yeah. Just bam. Yeah. Just spread it all over the aliens and they would have been like, bleh.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yuck. But again, and when we get to the end when it all forms up and there's literally a little gray man there. Yeah. Give me more ambivalent. Not, not, give me more ambiguity. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:49 She sees something and we don't know what it is. I think that would have been better. Okay, fair enough. But there is some good practical stuff in this. Like for example, those guys who live in a wall. I want to know, like, how does that day start? Like you pack your little lunch and you go and crawl into a wall.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Is that how that's, that how your day starts and ends? Pretty cool. You clock in like those Warner Brothers cartoon dogs that hate each other or whatever. But what I do want to talk about before we get into the glasses, Mason, is something that I feel like is in your wheelhouse. He's wearing the same or very similar outfit to what he has previously.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Again, we've talked about the hat, how it does change movie to movie and they go back to previous models sometimes. Sometimes it's grey. Again, we've talked about the hat, how it does change movie to movie and whatever, and they go back to previous models sometimes. Sometimes it's grey. Yeah, sometimes it's grey, Mason. Freaking hell. Do you think in this era it is time to change up the outfit? Does it feel sad to you to see him wearing the same getup?
Starting point is 00:19:37 You mean his adventure outfit? The slacks and the shirt and the leather jacket? Like the teaching stuff I'm fine with and whatever, but do you think in this era it's like maybe you want to, I don't know, get another shirt? Track suit, for example? Sure. No, I think it's cool.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Okay. Yeah. He's a man who knows. Even some variation on it, you know? Yeah. I mean, I think, yeah, sometimes I feel that with a cat. I think also we've been spoiled by like MCU movies and superhero movies where every character gets a new look every movie,
Starting point is 00:20:05 even several times a movie. Yeah, it does look like a guy who's only had one outfit for like 30 years. Even Han Solo had a slightly different jacket is what I'm saying. I think this one is a slightly different jacket. I mean, it is, but it's still like the, you know, it's the basic look.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Yeah. You know? Look, I'm torn. I think you're right. I don't even know what you would what would that even look like changing because the problem is if you never change the character's look ultimately it looks it starts to be a bit cartoony yeah but i mean maybe it's the thing it's like that you know they've never really changed it so why now maybe like 35 1935 was
Starting point is 00:20:40 the best year of his life and why would he it almost certainly was. Why would he change? And as a man, that's when your style, you know. 1935. 1935. That's why you're all dressed like it's 1935 over here. You're absolutely right. What about a long black trench coat a la The Matrix? What about that?
Starting point is 00:20:59 Absolutely. But look, I think, you know, it's got. I mean, he still looks good in it again and he moves well. It's very practical. What's he going to switch to jeans? They take forever to dry, James. Yeah, they do take forever to dry. He's always falling into a river. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:10 I like it. The slacks, he's practical. He's got a lot of pockets. Oh, that river bit. Oh, yeah. Pretty good is what I'm saying. Sure. But we've got to circle back around to his glasses.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Okay, now you're trying to determine what prescription Indiana Jones has or whether, in fact, he has a prescription at all. Now, if I recall, the only time he's wearing glasses in this is the scene at the college where he's teaching. He's wearing little round glasses, but for the most part, he's looking over the top of them. Yes. So that would suggest to me that those ones are reading glasses
Starting point is 00:21:47 because when he looks out into the student body, he's peeking over them. And when his friend opens the door to speak to him, he's looking over them. And then when he goes to speak to Jim Broadbent, he takes them off entirely. So I think he's using them to look at the blackboard, but when he looks over the top
Starting point is 00:22:05 of him he can see the the the students perfectly well okay that would be my guess i agree i think uh from this investigation well i've done yeah well i'm obviously i've got my input here but you you're the one who has to make the final decision here well there's a little wrinkle on this that i want to talk about okay i do think that they're just reading glasses i think maybe sometimes he'll just wear them because he's just got them on you know but but here's the thing it's interesting that his vision has not deteriorated yeah and his health has basically stayed the same and we know that's because he's hollywood rich and famous that's true and that's why in real life that he's still able to do the things that he is in this movie but if you look at the last crusade novelization
Starting point is 00:22:43 there is i think there's a link between the grail and him being this level of fitness. You think it has something to do with the fact that he chugged from the Tumblr of eternal youth? Okay, the Tumblr of youth. Terrific, okay. So here's the thing. If you go into the novelization,
Starting point is 00:23:01 it goes into more detail about how it works, and apparently what it is is you have an alan dean foster joint no it's a oh you really fuck me on this mason i gotta know max alan collins robert mcgregor okay rob mcgregor okay all right yeah so what you basically have to do what the knight had to do was drink every day and if you drink from it every day you retain your youth okay but the And if you drink from it every day, you retain your youth. Okay. But the longer that you drink from it and if you pause drinking,
Starting point is 00:23:30 then your age catches up to you the longer you leave it. I see. But you basically, yeah, that's why the knight apparently had a few crises of faith and that's why he aged. He basically took a couple of days off and then went, no, I love God, actually, and he kept drinking. Do you love God or do you love your perfect skin mate great question yeah but here's the thing do you love god or do you love not having any crow's feet but what it does do if you even drink from it once when there was only one set of crow's feet
Starting point is 00:24:00 that's when i carried you sorry continue, continue. That's all right. But what it does do, even if you drink from it once, any injuries or diseases that you have, it clears up and gives you an absolutely fresh bill of health. So this is, we can break Indiana Jones' life up from before. Yeah. Before the. Last crusade. Before BC, before crusade.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yep. And AD after drinking. After, before Crusade. Yep. And AD, after drinking. After drinking from a big stone cup. Exactly. Okay, so potentially... Essentially, he got a reset. Yeah, so his prescription after that is not necessarily the same as the one before.
Starting point is 00:24:37 No, I would say it's very possible, and there's probably comics and novels that say the opposite of this, that that fixed his eyes, and then the 19 years in between, his eyes basically went back to where they were slowly. Yeah, right. Yeah. So it didn't youthify him.
Starting point is 00:24:52 It basically just clean bill of healthed him. And it potentially, when he looked into the crystal skull, that gave him LASIK. So maybe his vision's perfect now because he didn't use glasses after that at all, did he? That's true. Not even at the wedding. He wasn't's true. Not even at the wedding. He wasn't wearing them.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Not even at the wedding. So yeah, anyways, it ends with like, it's too much power. Why did I absorb all this power, et cetera. And there's a moment where Mac just falls over and I just was thinking to myself, hey, Mac, get up. Just get up. Yeah. And he's like, I think I'm all right. It's going to stay here, I reckon.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Okay, so you think he heard you? No, he didn't get up. He flew into the vortex. Oh, yeah. Maybe he got off after. No, he went into the vortex. Yeah, but when he landed in wherever the vortex takes you. I think a stone probably killed him.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Oh, yeah, that's actually probably true. Yeah. Anyways, Mason, it's time for Indiana Jones and the trivia of the crystal trivia. I love that. The trivia segment of the show where we go, wow, new trivia. Pretty good. Not necessarily new, but it is trivia.
Starting point is 00:25:52 So when Indiana Jones is referring to being kidnapped by Pancho Villa, he's referring to the Adventures of Young Indiana Jones, the episode Spring Break Adventure. Whoa. So those are all canon. Interesting. Except for the old Indiana Jones eyepatch stuff, which George Lucas put in and everybody complained within the studio
Starting point is 00:26:12 because they don't line up with the stories properly. So they ended up taking those out. He's got perfect vision after the crystal skull laser thing. That's right. Why would he need an eyepatch? Yeah. That's interesting. It's interesting that I guess I just assumed that was just a callback
Starting point is 00:26:28 to an adventure that they had and we've never seen it or what have you, but it's good to know it's a very specific thing. Absolutely. And they learned some stuff. They learned some stuff, yeah. Harrison Ford was apparently adamant that he got to wield Indiana Jones' famous whip. Paramount executives wanted the weapon to be computer generated
Starting point is 00:26:42 because of new movie safety rules, but Ford branded this rule ridiculous. You'd never get away with making this movie now, though, I tell you that much, Mason. That's right. Not with today's culture. You'd never make Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. That's right. You couldn't have a whip.
Starting point is 00:26:54 You'd have to have... An equality whip. You'd have to have an equality whip. You'd have to whip every single person equally. That's good. That's good, I think. Yes, that's good. So, as mentioned, Sean Connery turned down a cameo because he was enjoying retirement
Starting point is 00:27:09 too much and Alex G fucked him up. But John Rhys-Davies was also approached a cameo at the wedding at the end, but thought it would cheapen the character. So, decided not to. Probably a good call, honestly. So, these were some of the titles that were considered for the movie. This one's from George Lucas. Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Steven Spielberg's was... Oh, yeah, no, all right. It's fine, right? Steven Spielberg's idea... But it sounds a little bit like Indiana Jones and the Sauce of Men. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah. That's good, too.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I guess, sure. Steven Spielberg's idea was Indiana Jones and the Blank blank Of the Mysterians Fill it in He was going to fill it in later I'll do it all the day Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:52 And screenwriter David Cope Wanted Indiana Jones And the son of Indiana Jones I don't think that's real No That sounds made up Speaking of son of Indiana Jones
Starting point is 00:28:01 Oh Indiana Jones This is day one Day one they're breaking the script Oh Indiana Jones And the son of Indiana Jones What did, Indiana Jones. This is day one. Day one, they're breaking the script. Oh, Indiana Jones and the Son of Indiana Jones. What did you say? Nothing. I don't have any ideas for that. Speaking of Son of Indiana Jones, Mason,
Starting point is 00:28:12 this is what Shia LaBeouf said about this movie. He's this movie's biggest critic. Because I feel like with some distance, and we've seen this with other movie franchises before, a lot can be forgiven. I think with a judicious edit, a lot of this could be fixed. If instead of fighting while doing the splits on the top of a couple of Jeeps. He dies.
Starting point is 00:28:31 He just dies straight away. Anyway, so he said, I feel like I dropped the ball on the legacy that people loved and cherished. You get the monkey swinging and things like that, and you can blame it on the writer and you can blame it on Steven, but the actor's job is to make it come alive and make it work, and I couldn't do it. So that's my fault.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Simple. Now, as a result of this, apparently this destroyed his relationship with Spielberg. Because also, Spielberg obviously had a hand in the Transformers movies as well. He sure did, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, very loosely.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Don't blame him for that. So, though he did pick Michael Bay. Ah. Yeah. Harrison Ford said this of Shia LaBeouf. I think LaBeouf was a fucking idiot. As an actor, I think it's my obligation to support the film without making complete arse of myself. Shia is
Starting point is 00:29:13 ambitious, attentive and talented and he's learning how to deal with a situation which is very unique and difficult. And Steven Spielberg apparently gave Shia the following advice. Tom Cruise never picks his nose in public. And Shia LaBeouf said, and all I thought was, I don't want to be Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 00:29:29 It was this gut reaction. What a tangled web of people saying weird stuff. Incredible. But I would say, look, as much as a lot of people don't like Shia LaBeouf for a bunch of good reasons, I don't think he could have... I don't think any actor could. You can't fix.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Daniel Day-Lewis couldn't have saved swinging through the trees with monkeys. He couldn't have done it. No, I agree. Yeah. Anyways, box office for this on a budget of $185 million, making this by far the biggest Indiana Jones budget. Thus far. Thus far, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:02 It made $790 million that year. It is the second highest grossing movie of the year internationally behind The Dark Knight. I see. All the other ones are number one. This is number two. That's not a bad outcome at all. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:30:59 Oh, nice. What are we up to? Four? Up to four. I don't know. We'll find out. All right, cool. I'll do a Google search.
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Starting point is 00:31:14 Goodbye. I was going to make that joke. I was going to make it. Too late. That's right. If you drink from the bloody cup of the bloody Christ, the cup, the thing, then you wouldn't be so stupid. Yeah, maybe.
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