The Weekly Planet - Interstellar - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: September 3, 2020

To wrap up our Nolanpaloza (his words) we revisit the 2014 sci-fi epic Interstellar. Starring Matthew Matthew McConaughey, Anne Hathaway, Jessica Chastain and Michael Caine it sees the future of humanity threatened by a global catastrophe so they go into space and time dialation and wormholes and stuff like that. Pretty full on. Thanks for watching.Help support the show and get early episodes at https://bigsandwich.co/SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ►James' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownTWP Itunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4T-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies#ChristopherNolan #Tenet Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. We're back to cap off our Christopher Nolan trilogy of films that he's made that we're talking about. Not all of his films, but we've missed some. People are like, what about Memento? What about it? It's more than three.

That's more than three movies. That's right. But this isn't about that. This is three movies which he calls the Nolan Palooza. And what's momentous about this one as well, I think, it's the centre point of both the Nolanpalooza and the renaissance of great roles played by Matthew McConaughey. Or as people in the know call, the Matthewpalooza.

You're absolutely right. Interstellar. The movie Interstellar. See, what this is, it's an epic journey across time and space starring Matthew McConaughey as a woman searches for her father long lost. 1997's Contact is what I'm talking about, Mason. I've done that joke again. You've done it again. I meant to do it last week with Shutter Island.

Oh, okay, right. But I forgot. There's still time to edit it in. It's too late, Mason. That's a shame. Anyway, leave a like if you could. Leave a like if, like James, you believe that all of Christopher Nolan's work

is highly derivative of another work. I do not believe that, actually. I think he's highly inventive and unique in his outlook and interpretation of things that have come in the past. This is kind of a... It's one of those movies that's like... It's a 2001-esque kind of homage.

Very much so, yeah. You know, like your Solaris's. Movies of that elk. You're trying very hard not to mention the Danny Boyle movie, Sunshine, which is your favourite movie, which you mention at every opportunity. That's true. Yeah, yeah. No, this is more, that's probably more action focused than this is. Yeah, this one is very, look, you know,

apart from the fifth dimensional wormhole, this is quite, this feels very grounded. They're not like, well, we're out to save the world. We're just a bunch of cowboys and we're going to strap on the hyperdrives and get out into space. It's very much a case of relativity rules and aging decades so you can't see your family anymore drools. That's right, yeah.

I feel like the only reason he got to make this movie is because he capped off the Dark Knight trilogy and then Warner Brothers just went, just do literally whatever. Yeah, wow. Because Spielberg was going to do this for years. The only person who was still on board was Kip Thorne, the physicist who worked a lot of behind the scenes stuff

to make sure the science bit makes sense. Oh, I thought this was an original Nolan... A lot of it is. He changed so much. Because he is a writer on this, yeah. Yes. So much of it has. He changed so much. Because he's a writer on this. Yes. So much of it has been changed to what it's become.

Or sad farming. Or sad farming. There's only elements of it that kind of carry over. But with this movie, because this just shows the peak at where he's at, he earned $20 million

and 20% of the gross of this movie. So that's just... I mean, that's direct disdain power, Mason. You don't get that anymore. Absolutely not. You don't see,

I'm trying to think of a director. That's the thing, you can't anymore. How many are left? Look, as we've mentioned, who is a known director that gets to make

whatever they want? It's just Nolan and Michael Bay at this point, and Spielberg. Yeah, well, that's right. But the rest of it's just like,

we'll bring you in for one movie, you've got some different ideas, you're out, we're replacing you. That's it, yeah. I'm talking about Disney, that's who. But the rest of it's just like, we'll bring you in for one movie. You've got some different ideas. You're out. We're replacing you. I'm talking about Disney. That's who I'm talking about. Nobody notices. You're not a fan of this one though, are you? Look, here's the thing. I guess I've spent a long time, I saw it at cinemas and I guess I spent a lot of time thinking to myself, I hate this movie for a lot of reasons. I don't understand it, first of all. But you know what what it is this for me falls into the basket of very well-made movies that i never want to watch again ah so how was it watching it again

i didn't well it seemed very well made it's very well put together again we're in the we're in the matthew palooza you're sure uh and you know he's he's great in this but it's so grim this movie's grim there's no there's no avenue you can explore in this movie that I don't think oh, well this is this makes me sad. So whatever way you look at it, what about the big blocky robots? Okay, they're fun. The big AI fridge

robots, the internet fridges are fun. We've got these sort of former Marine Corps AI robots which I guess were designed for deadly strike missions or something in the past. Well, the idea was, because everything is very well thought out

why it exists in this universe. I deep dived into the behind the scenes stuff, as I do all the time, and I barely scratched the surface on any of it. But this I know, because they wanted this world to already exist, there'd be no point in robots like this existing outside of, I don't know, the military used to use them.

But, you know, in this world of dying corn and sad farmers and baseball, you can't even get a hot dog. By the way, I love the world building of this, like this dying planet. I think it's done really well. See, I don't love it, and that's where we're going with it. I don't love it. I'm not like, yeah, I love it.

You love the idea that billions of people died prior to the events of this movie. You love that. I think it's well... You're like, oh, less of a line at the movies, don't mind if I do. They're not making movies. You go in and they're just showing reruns of that Kevin Costner

My Dad's a Baseballer movie. What's it called? Field of Dreams. Oh, so this is a sad universe where they're just showing sad movies. That's right, exactly, yeah. No, I think the world is really well established. I mean, you believe it, right? I don't mean like, wow, what a dream planet to live on. I just mean it makes sense.

Well, it makes sense. So should we just briefly touch on the plot? Sure, go. So it's several decades in the future and... It's like 2070 or something like that? It's something around there. And it's 2067. We'll get emails.

But then the time changes. Oh, then the time changes. We'll get emails. But then the time changes. We'll get more emails telling us the time changes. It's a variety of different times that are in the future of now. But what if this video still exists at that point? It won't be the future at all. We'll be dead. It's fine. They'll put YouTube comments on our tombstones. They'll come up virtually.

Anyway, it's the future. Because of environmental degradation, all the crops are dying. There's only corn left. And it looks like the environment's going to completely collapse and humanity won't be able to survive anymore. But it turns out there may be a chance for survival. Ghosts. Because Matthew McConaughey is a sad farmer on a sad corn farm.

That's right. And in his house, spooky happenings are happening. But is it spooky or is it more like, check out this fucking bookshelf and watch? I mean, it's spooky science, you know what I mean? Yeah, but no one... Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from spooks, is what they say.

The television show Spooks? Yeah. With Matthew McFadden? That's the one, yeah. Okay, very good. David Oyelowo is in this movie. Oh my goodness, he's too. Yeah, he is too. Ollie, stopadden? That's the one. Okay, very good. David Oyelowo is in this movie. Oh my goodness. He's in Spooks.

He's too. Yeah, he is too. Ollie, stop barking. You're ruining the podcast. Ollie. You're ruining our great take, Ollie. We'll get her inside and then we'll continue the podcast. Yeah, nice.

All right, she's in. But anyway, James, the Spooks. Yeah. The Spooks point him in the direction of a government facility. Yes. And that government facility is happy to see him because as a former NASA test pilot and engineer, he can join their secret NASA squad, which is going to head to a wormhole, which is going to potentially lead them to new habitable planets that maybe humanity can go to. Or all of humanity can die and they'll just repopulate those planets with some embryos and stuff.

Which is cool too. Just scatter them all about. Yeah, it's like fertilizing a garden. Yeah, just spray them out. Yeah, just see what happens. You know what I mean? Yeah. Just don't mix it with weed killer they'll probably be all right but getting back to tars the robot yes so much of this including him is practical there's minimal use of green screen all the stuff in space is done with front projections so the actors can be like we're really in space i could do my actual acting for once is that a la the mandalorian no

it's a bit before that time those Those are big, like, LED screens. They're probably not LED. Just don't. Just don't. Just leave me alone. Just leave me alone. It's like what they used for Oblivion. I've got a video on it if people want to check out the kind of history of, like, front projection

and reprojection and all those other things. But here's some other things that you might be like, what else is practical? Is it just the robots and the screens you're asking? I hear you asking. James, is it just the robots and the screens you're asking i hear you asking james is just the robots and the screens i'm really genuinely curious you're an idiot oh my god i was set up to fail there first of all uh tars is based off uh marvin from hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy oh that's why he's got jokes he's got jokes he's got a sarcasm uh percentage yeah okay so there's like a dude when they're walking who stands behind in like a green suit

or whatever, maybe not. And so that's how it works. Like a lot of the time when they're walking around, they're really there. They did build CGI models for a lot of the stuff anyway, but all the unfolding,

all of those things, often that's a real thing that's happening. The bookshelf Tesseract that they get lost in, or Matthew McConaughey does, they built that for real. That's a real physical set.

Oh, they built a real black hole. Oh, they built a real black hole. Yeah, they built a real black hole. Oh my God. Don't get in it though. Get away from it. Only Matthew McConaughey would be so bold. That's right. Yeah, so a lot of that, I mean, there is digital enhancement in that set, but a lot of that

is real. Also, most of the spaceships are miniatures as well. Again, they doubled them with CGI also. Right, right. But could have fully CGI'd and chose not to. Exactly. And I think that they look better as a result. I agree.

And things like the water planet that they visit, that they're like, let's check out this horrible water planet. Sure. That's all real. That's a real kind of spaceship that they plonked there. So they built a real spaceship on a real water planet. That's right. It really works.

It really works. They went through the black hole they came out. Incredible. That's where they did their filming filming so yeah it's it's real sets real locations for the most part but then there's things like they created a black hole you know using digital technologies that explains it that that is not real but but they did learn a lot of things about black holes apparently in regards to because you've got to put in all the physics and the data and the math and all of those things. And so they're like, oh, we learned some things about black holes. Don't ask me about specifics, but I know that they did.

Because also when they finally got a picture of a black hole a few years ago, they're not dissimilar. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Kip Thorne, I mentioned him. He was on this film beforehand. So early in pre-production, he laid down two guidelines that Christopher Nolan had to strictly follow. Nolan was at his whim, Mason. Oh my goodness.

And what are those two rules? Number one, no having sex with a black hole. Immediately broke it. Number two, don't mention that to anyone. So nothing would violate the established physical laws. Okay. And all the wild speculation would have to spring from science and not from the creative mind of the screenwriter so it had to be based in reality

essentially so he just stood behind christopher nolan like with like a ruler and every time nolan was like okay but what if aliens he's clattering on his word processor what if aliens and he just wrapped him on the knuckles no christopher nolan No. So Nolan though would make him go away and be like, listen, I want to do this thing. Is this possible? Kip, go away. And Kip would be like, it's not possible. And he's like, well, why don't you go away and think about it and try. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.

FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. I'd make it possible. And often they'd find like a workaround to make the science make some kind of sense but the only thing that he didn't budge on was you can't go faster than the speed of light that was the only thing that Christopher Nolan wanted to include in this movie

that they didn't end up doing yeah interesting so instead they did gravity bookshelf watches gravity bookshelf watches perfect equals love yes that's exactly right you know what I wanted to talk about Coop Matthew McConaughey's Coop what a great dad in this movie Watchers. Gravity Bookshelf Watchers. Perfect. Equals love. Yes, that's exactly right.

You know what I wanted to talk about? Coop. Matthew McConaughey's Coop. What a great dad in this movie. What do you say that? He's just a good dad. He's always there. I thought you were going to zig and then zag.

No, I'm being genuine. He lived for a hundred years. I mean, he did that. But I mean, before abandoning his children for hundreds of years, he backed his kids. He's like, my kids want to go to college. And he's like, you better let them in college kind of thing. And, you know, Murph is always fighting with the other students because she believes in the real history of the world

and not weird moon landing conspiracies and stuff like that. And he's like, it's good you fought those kids. Someone's going to be like, well, actually, the moon landing was technically, it was faked. People don't often know that. Well, that's more engagement in the comments. that's why i did that and also if you think that we we believe that so you know we sure do we're on your side and if you don't believe it well you could take this as sarcasm couldn't you yeah either way buy our merch but what is what i also like about that relationship is it's never fully resolved. Nobody really gets any proper closure.

It's absolutely heartbreaking to me as a father mason when he leaves. And then when he gets that message 30 years on when they're the same age. And by the end of the movie, when they finally are reunited, she's got her own family and she's moving well past him. She's dying, but she's like, I don't even really need you anymore. For him, it's like weeks. For her, it's X number of decades. Yeah, right's like i don't even really need you anymore for him it's like weeks but it's x number of decades yeah right so you don't yeah it's it's not it's a real metaphor it's a real well yeah exactly i mean and again it is a sort of a great metaphor for family and and and parents

and children and eventually the children grow to a point where maybe they feel they don't need their parents and stuff like that i think that's a great a great metaphor. But again, it's so sad. It's so sad. Why do you make me feel so sad, Christopher Nolan? Also, when he goes to find Anne Hathaway at the end, we hope you've seen this because otherwise, what is this? How long has she been there for? Is she dead by now?

Well, that's true. I mean, it's harder to say with Anne Hathaway because in, you know. It's harder to say with Anne Hathaway. This is our segment called It's Harder to Say with Anne Hathaway. We're not in Les Miserables right now, so stop that. But, like, obviously, you know, in a to say with that half the way we're not in the court it's harder to say with that half the way we're not in Les Miserables right now so stop that but like obviously you know in a previous scene in the movie you could tell that it's been decades you know having seen a one particular character because they've gone a bit bald and they're wearing a bathrobe now I think he was mostly bald beforehand I could tell he's he's got a couple more decades of being

bald good yeah yeah okay I don't think my anxiety in a movie has ever been higher than when they're down on that water planet. Again, for the one person who is still watching this despite having never seen the movie Interstellar. I bet there's more than one. You might be a little lost, but here's a way to make you feel even more lost. One planet exists in sort of a black hole relativity well,

so if you go down to that planet, every hour you spend on the planet equals seven years for the rest of the universe effectively. So if you just want to have a bit of a splish splash. That's going to cost you some time. You're going to miss some of your kids' birthdays. That's right, yeah. I don't understand why when they flew down,

they weren't just like, this is all water, let's get the fuck out of here. I don't understand why they landed and looked for anything. Apparently also that wave that they see leaving is the wave that killed the previous person yeah right that's how far the time dilation is kind of stretched and you'll notice also there's a there's like a ticking clock sound in the background of this scene and every tick represents one day on earth oh there's a sense of of foreboding the entire time. And then when they do get trapped there for at least a few hours, it's just like, what have you done?

This is just devastating. Absolute gooses. Yeah. What were they going to do down there anyway? Just set up a bunch of trestle tables to stand on? Are we going to set up some inflatable flamingos and such and just hope that all of humanity is happy to just float around on them drinking tropical drinks.

Yeah. And you would be. Why do they keep getting tricked into going to bullshit planets? I don't know. Matt Damon's there ruining everyone's day. Thanks a bunch, Matt Damon. People are like, what if it's the same character from this character from the one where he went on Mars?

What if you play different characters in different movies? I suppose that. What if it's also Jason Bourne? What if he's, well, look out. He's got to smash your face with a pen. Tell you what. Do you think you age in those cryopods in this future? See, that's another aspect of it that I was just like,

just imagine being vacuum frozen like a piece of steak. Love it. I think you would a little bit. So it's like when you do pull out a steak from the fridge that you've had it there for a piece of steak. Love it. I think he would a little bit. So it's like when you do pull out a steak from the fridge that you've had it there for a couple of years. I mean, it's still edible, but do you really want to? No. So that's what happened to Matt Damon?

Yeah, just not as edible as you think. Steak gone bad. You'd be like, wouldn't mind a bit of Matt Damon for dinner. He is so tender and delicious. And then you take him out of the pot and you're like, I guess. It's chewy. Didn't buy anything else at the shop. And he's in his late 40s as well, isn't he?

So he's not going to be at his best. Yeah. What do you think of the score? Because it's big organs all the time. Yes. Hans Zimmer was asked by Christopher Nolan to just reinvent, do something new. Because I think after Inception it was like.

Big organs all the time. Big organs. Because after Inception. James, please. Yes. After Inception and the soundtrack to that, kind of soaked into the consciousness of the public And ruined everything So it's a conscious step beyond that

But this I feel isn't as This hasn't been copied at all No, absolutely not It's meant to be more subtle I like it I also like it If there's one thing I don't like in this movie, though, it's very long and slow docking sequences.

I remember that at the time when I saw it. If I could take something out, it's like a ship spinning while another ship comes in to click. That's 2001, baby. Yeah, what is it? That's an homage, one would assume. Yeah, there you go. Getting back to that water planet, though, here's a fun fact about the water planet. I'm ready. Although Doyle

is presumed drowned, do you remember the guy from... Wes Bentley. Wes Bentley. Weird beard guy from Hunger Games. After being struck by a tidal wave on Miller's planet,

his suit appears intact. Remember when they leave and he's just there face down? Uh-huh. So, meaning it's remotely possible that he could have survived the impact and is merely unconscious.

Given the extreme time dilation on this planet, a rescue was very possible. Assuming the mission were to be dispatched from Cooper Station orbiting Saturn, it would take only nine hours in relative time for Doyle to be rescued, but over 65 years would have to have passed for the rest of the world. So there you go. So in conclusion, that initially built me some hope of like,

oh, that's actually a nice little button on this movie. Maybe they could go back and rescue some of the people that they left behind, but then I'm like, 65 years people probably wouldn't bother. It's too long, isn't it? It's a long time. You get down, then you come back up. Your daughter hates you and whatever. More than she did already, yeah. That's right. Casey Affleck is

not having a good time on the farm. Do you want a fun fact? Yes, of course. I just got the one fun fact. One fun fact. Just one. course I like fun facts. I've just got the one fun fact. One fun fact. Just one. Dr Kip Thorne won a scientific bet against Stephen Hawking. You love this Dr Kip Thorne so much. He was so involved in the creative process.

I've watched a lot of behind the scenes stuff, Mason. Get a load of this Kip Thorne stan over here. Oh, you're Kip Thorne stanning so cringe, James. But go on. Kip Thorne won a scientific bet against Stephen Hawking using the astrophysics theory that underlies this movie. As a consequence, Hawking had to subscribe to Penthouse magazine for a year. Oh, he had to. If you know anything about Stephen Hawking's personal life,

it wouldn't have been much of a stretch for him to subscribe to this magazine. I'm not throwing shade. Do what you got gotta do, man. Right. Live your life. But I don't think it was like, oh no, how embarrassing. Oh, yeah.

So there you go. Did you know, Mason, one of the most popular videos on my channel is a video explaining this movie from years back. Really? Okay. People fucking hate it. You just said it was one of your most popular videos. Sometimes the things that you make

that get the most traction aren't your best work. Interesting, alright. So I don't disagree with a lot of that. When you say you explained the movie Interstellar, did you do that using research or did you just sort of wing it? I just kind of wung it. Wung it? Yeah, you wung it.

And it's that kind of rigorous scientific research that led to whatever happened there. I think my mistake is also I should have answered it in question form to be like dot point. Anyway, it's not here nor there. It's done. But what I'd love people to do is go to that video,

find a mean comment, and just reply, actually, this is a really good video, just to make me feel better about this video. Absolutely. Sounds really like a good fun thing to do. Anyway, I like it. Sure, they borrow that paper folding time thing from event horizon and other movies but you know it's it's exposition

light for the most part would you say that's yeah that's true i like it i really like this movie it's not my favorite of his movies but i think it's uh coming back to this i think for me it held up really well and i like the tragedy of it i like the sadness of it i just like to sit in it and go oh oh, boo, I feel bad. Does it affect you more now that you are, in fact, a father?

I think so. Yeah, definitely. Look, it certainly affects me more in the sense that, you know, I did watch this and go, oh,

you know, it's all going to be lost. All the content I've created over the last few years. That'll be in your tombstone. It'll scroll. Yeah, I guess it will. Yeah, that's true.

Aliens will come down and go, but really hate this interstellar video that he made. Anyways, this has been Caravan of Garbage. This has been our Christopher Nolan trilogy. Can you believe we did every Christopher Nolan film? It's a Nolanpalooza, baby. We did it. It's how he would have wanted it.

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit PlanetBroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean, if you want. It's up to you. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women

who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London one woman has a secret the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives

are lost FX's The Veil starring Elizabeth Moss is now streaming on Disney Plus