The Weekly Planet - Iron Man 2 - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: July 8, 2021

The turnaround between Iron Man and Iron Man 2 was shockingly quick in an attempt to cash on on the first, build the universe an set the wheels in motion for The Avengers. All of this results in a sequel that doesn't reach the heights of the first but is not without it''s redeeming moments. Justin Hammer, Whiplash, the new War Machine, that racetrack bit, a boird, some of this works. Anyways here's our Caravan Of Garbage review, thanks for listening!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/HQTe_cNQ764Help support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Visit heartandstroke.ca. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello, everybody. We're back for another Caravan of Garbage, continuing our flight through the Iron Man trilogy, Mason. Continuing. Is that what I said?

Yep. I stand by what I say and do and everything else that's ever happened that I will do. That's how you become a success. That was Tony Stark's maiden speech for his company. He's like, I'm going to be continuing work of my father. else that's ever happened to the doll that i will do that's how you become a success that was tony stark's maiden speech for his company he's like i'm gonna be continuing work of my father he's gonna be very proud of me that's right so you become a billionaire and if people could continue to leave a like on this video that would be terrific love it yes uh because that certainly

helps get this video off the ground speaking of mason. Yes. Tony Stark, he's back. He's hot off his appearance in The Incredible Hulk. The post-credits cameo. Yeah. As a real bumbler, if I recall. Yeah. He's put on his big tall man shoes for his scenes with Gwyneth Paltrow. Well, that's what I was going to say.

So in the past. That was the first thing you were going to say? Honestly, the first thing I was going to say, because it's in a segment. In the past, I've given Iron Man 2 a bad rap. Sure. And when I think back on it and I go, oh, Iron Man 2, what a disappointment. And I think there's only really three things that I have an issue with in this movie. Number one is that Tony Stark builds a new element by looking at his dad's old theme park.

Like he's looking at a magic eye and then he discovers a new element in it, which is fascinating to me. His dad left it there for him. It doesn't work. And he also does it in a way of like, you know, when you watch an episode of CSI and it's just like test tubes spinning and it's like da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. But there's no actual. No.

Like nothing is really happening. He's just turning a laser onto another thing. Yeah, yeah. Kind of thing, you know. To be fair, though, he puts more effort into this than he does figuring out time travel. it's true time travel he just knocks it out on a napkin on the way over yeah um and yeah and it and it sort of makes me wonder what would happen if like howard stark was building this secret into his theme park for his son yeah like one of the popcorn

vendors decided not to book in he's like oh i'm missing a i'm missing a guy oh do i do i run the popcorn stand i'll set my own one up oh okay so that's that that's number one sure number one issue with this movie number two issue with this movie is that it's it's predominantly uh about tony stark maybe he's going to be in the avengers but then and it's all filler at for you know his future involvement in the avengers and at the end he's just not in the avengers but in the avengers at the start of the avengers he's just in the the Avengers. But in the Avengers, at the start of the Avengers, he's just in the Avengers. But that's not really Jon Favreau's fault. That's more Weaver's fault for not turning that around somehow.

Well, that and also there was a lot of heavy Marvel involvement in this. Like Jon Favreau, he's a pretty jovial guy. Like he'll shut his mouth about, you know, being in a situation like this. But apparently there was a lot of behind-the-scenes friction between him and the Marvel higher-ups. We'll talk about some recasting that's going on. There were some people at Marvel who were no longer there, and this really leans into the, like,

we're building a universe here in a way that the first one didn't. What was your third thing? My third thing is Tony Stark's huge bell-bottom trousers. Just in every full body shot of him, he's got these big flared pantaloons. And it's obviously because he's not as tall as the character is supposed to be and they've put lifts in his shoes. And the way you counteract that is you have these big boot cut jeans.

There's a moment where he's replacing a painting on a wall or whatever and he's standing up on a bench you you see him there they're right there and and look these days there would just be a there would be like a role in the in the crew and it'd be like visual effects tailoring and they would just cut it down in post sure yeah um but but back then you know they only had a mere hundred million dollars or whatever it was so it's just like that's right but other than that still it's fine it's it's it's like you it's better than i remember it being and what it got me thinking about also was there's a lot of changes to marvel characters especially early on which i think people were more okay with because they weren't as popular.

For example, they changed Jarvis to a virtual assistant AI situation, but that was mostly because they didn't want to do a Bruce Wayne, Alfred comparison. Same year as Batman Begins, right? Exactly. Oh, no, Dark Knight. Oh, yes. A Batman movie.

A Batman movie, sure. Which one? Who's to say? We don't know. They were continuing the saga of the Dark Knight. It's all a blur. The other thing is he's more of a jokester. Do you know what I mean?

Where in the comics he's pretty straight and narrow. I mean, he's a drunk, but he's like straight and narrow, right? In terms of personality. And also the identity thing, which was apparently an improv, that changed the course of this entire saga because a lot of people just don't have identities there are exceptions you know like spider-man but they just completely threw that out the window and i don't know whether if they did that now people would be as open to it if you did this with a character like batman in his first movie sure or even any

of the movies where he just did a press conference and went, I'm Batman. And the police are all in the audience. They're like, well, he's rich, so I guess we have to let him get away with this. We'd stop him, but I don't know. He knows Krav Maga, I think. I mean, Batman nearly does come out at a press conference in the Dark Knight and say that he's Batman, but it doesn't happen.

But yeah, do you think they've leaned more away from that? Where do you think the MCU is now in terms of changes? Well, I think the MCU and probably influenced the Marvel comic book universe to that extent because obviously in the comic books originally, Tony Stark, Iron Man was his bodyguard, but they've gotten rid of that since then.

The whole world knows Tony Stark as Iron Man in the comics now. So I think they've probably leaned heavily into that. Obviously, Nick Fury, as we've mentioned in previous caravans of garbage, was originally a white guy. Yes. And he has since been replaced by his son, who is a black guy. Yep.

And that's been more or less. It works perfectly. It works perfectly. Don't even think about it. His name is also Nick Fury. Nick Fury Jr. They don't bring up the junior very often. I do want to talk about the Nick Fury thing because there's been talk that,

like, oh, we based on Samuel L. Jackson and the idea was that, like, we were going to get him in and, you know, this was kind of our way to let him know what was going on. Now people talk to his people. They just did it. There's interviews with Samuel L. Jackson. I found one recently where he's like, I picked up a comic and I was in the comic. And apparently there was a lot of contractual problems at the time, Mason.

I bet. I mean, even in, there's an issue of the Ultimate Comics where Nick Fury is asked who would play him in a movie. He says David Hasselhoff. That's right. The character looking exactly like Samuel L. Jackson says, well, Samuel L. Jackson, of course. So it's interesting that that did come true.

I believe the artist on that comic book at the time was quite fond of, you know reference we'll say sure and that's tracing tracing yes yeah well you know it's easier isn't it that's right oh speaking of casting yeah this movie has a cavalcade of fun guests guest stars oh my god so many let's do it olivia munn is in this who later became siloed in the x-men movies Kate Mara who gave the best performance anyone's ever given

in a Fantastic Four movie best wig in a movie best wig in a movie in some of the scenes the great DJ AM no longer with us the late DJ AM the late great

Gary Shandling one of the best in the business pool brings in a great performance as this sort of smarmy just had it up to here,

senator who later turns out to be a Hydra agent. I actually think, and I was watching some behind-the-scenes stuff that speaks to this, that they were already thinking about the Hydra twist. Interesting. Because they're kind of like, yeah, there's some stuff coming up or whatever, and I'm like, huh, well, it's only four years out at this point, you know, so that's not entirely possible

that they would have planned some of that out. That's true. But yeah, sorry, Gary, well, it's only four years out at this point, you know, so that's not entirely possible that they would have planned some of that out. That's true. But, yeah, sorry, Gary Shanley, yeah. And Bill O'Reilly, still alive somehow. Yeah. It's interesting, isn't it? It is. Well, speaking of terrible people.

Go on. Elon Musk makes an appearance. Sure does. That's true. Like I said, did I say cavalcade of stars or not? Yeah. Tony, I'm thinking about making an electric jet. You know what he's actually just thinking about?

It's just a regular jet. It's got an electric fence on it so poor people can't get in. That's what it is. You know what I think? I think that's how he actually comes up with his ideas. They're like, he's a great inventor. He came in and said, electric jet, and then he ran out of the room, and then we just had to build an electric jet.

Yeah. Anyway, look into it. He's not great, is he? Real life Tony Stark, in my opinion. Just a real dog of a bloke. Yep. Again, we know there's some big fans of him out there. Just look into it a bit.

Just look into it just a little bit. Just a little bit. Just look into him a little bit. Just come on. He's a hero. Yeah, 100% agree. What do you think about the fact that they sort of did the demon in a bottle storyline sort of thing?

For that one scene. For that one scene. Well, to be fair, the original opening when we see Tony Stark for this and there's a deleted scene you can find, he's drunk throwing up in a toilet and then he jumps out of the plane and Pepper Potts is there and she's like, what are you doing? You're drunk.

And he's like, I love being drunk. I'm Tony Stark. Is he drunk? But he's also palladium drunk, right? Yeah. He's palladium poisoned and drunk. Sure. And mostly drunk.

He's day drunk, night drunk. Could any one of us say that if we were being constantly palladium poisoned, we wouldn't be drunk all the time? I'd be doing it all day, mate. That's right. Speaking of, though, we have a service called Big Sandwich where we have a book club where we actually recently did Demon in a Bottle where we talk thoroughly and extensively about that story arc.

So you can check it out. You want a Tony Stark? He's got a big perm. He's got a moustache. He's zipping about on his Iron Man roller skates. We got you covered. Don't worry about it. Absolutely.

So he's met his match this time around by a big, muscular, HGH-infused Russian man with a very exposed chest and arms. Oh, most of his chest. And head. And head. Constantly. Mostly the head. Well, that's what gets him in the end, isn't it?

The exposed head. I just think, Well, that's what gets him in the end, isn't it? The exposed head. I just think, though, he's not a great villain. I think Mickey Rourke was huge at the time because Sin City, because of the wrestler. I mean, he is a great actor. And apparently he brought a lot to this role and he had a lot of his own ideas in terms of the looks. Boids?

Boids, different boids. Yeah, the bird was his idea, for real. And, like, the tattoos were all him and the Russian accent and the phrases that he wanted to use. Board? Sorry? Board? Yeah, the Boyd, yeah.

But apparently a lot of that was cut. So I feel like just going, yeah, it's fine and whatever. But, you know, what was it supposed to be? I don't know. But this isn't great, is it? Is it really? But here's something that is great. Yes.

And I'll stand by this scene until the day that I die, until one of Elon Musk's weird fans comes and finds me and shoots me. Until you are dragged onto a shuttle and put into one of Elon Musk's space mines. Yeah, that's right. The racetrack scene is one of the best scenes in the MCU ever, hands down, without question. And it's a great action sequence, and it looks great,

because I think this is one of the few Marvel films filmed on film. Yes. Looks great, colours great. FOF, that's what we say. That's right. That's what we say, FOF. Whip, whip, whip, whip. Filmed on film.

Yeah, go on, sorry. It just looks great, the slow-mo action. Whiplash just slicing those Formula One cars in half. And you see it's got the red outline where it's, like, just seared through it. That being said, there is a moment where he flips Tony Stark's car and it flips upside down numerous times

and then a bunch of cars crash directly behind Whiplash and I'm like, this would be an entirely different movie and cinematic universe if both of them had just been absolutely obliterated on that racetrack, which could very easily have happened. Like like whiplash flips over the car and tony stark's head has been separated from his body and he's like huh did it and then just just a bunch of like formula one just pile on top of him yeah he is very casually strolling up and down that racetrack isn't he

but that being said the the moment that just really sold for me and it was in the trailer is the suitcase armor which is a nod to the fact that his armor is used to be in a briefcase and the way it unfolds around him and it's like clickety clacking over over his limbs and i also love the fact that it's this emergency suit that has some of the iron man abilities but not enough a lot of the time evidently yeah but that's. But also, that suit for me, that's the best-looking Iron Man suit, in my opinion, that Silver Centurion look. It's fantastic. It's my favourite suit by far.

But again, I think this, and maybe this is one of the reasons, again, let's add a fourth reason after the big Tony Stark booties, that they put this in the trailer. And again, it's the calculation they have to make of, do we leave some surprises in this film? Do we put something exciting in the trailer to draw people in? And I think they made the wrong call on that. Imagine if you'd see the suit.

Imagine if you'd not seen any trailers and you're watching this movie. You see Happy walking around with that little briefcase. And you're like, what's in the briefcase? Because it looks like it could be. I mean, they wouldn't put a briefcase. That's silly because it's in the comics. Is it just like a bunch of martini mixes martini mixes maybe when whiplash you'll be like quickly throw me the briefcase i need a martini before i'm beheaded by that laser whip but then he puts the suit you'd be like oh my god but the fact that they just had

to had to throw that in the entire activation sequence you're right in the trailer yeah and that's the you know the reason it looks so good is why they had to do that. And it just, that's reason number four. It's a great reason. Well, it is the Mark IV suit. And speaking of, me and you have had discussions in the past about whether or not this suit can fly. And I've done a little bit of research.

You said it couldn't. I said it could. Right, here we go. Are you saying that when Happy throws it to him, that's canonically flying? No, no, no, Mason. I'm actually, you're right in this video right now. I'm actually, the Mark V suit is an emergency only suit and thus

is only equipped with the basic Iron Man arsenal namely hand mounted repulsors. Apart from its lack of heavy weapons and its light weight, it can still fly. However, it cannot reach high altitudes or speeds and is limited in its weight it can carry during flight but it does have the advantage of flight which means he can fly away.

And there's a little asterisk and it says flight can only be sustained if he's being picked up by a laser weapon. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. Truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. I'm flying over a racetrack.

But all right, I see your point. I don't even remember if you actually said that. That may have been something that I built up in my mind. He said this thing, I'm going to roll him. I'm going to roll him in public. What I also like about this suit, and I think it also speaks to literally every other suit that he has, something happens to it which he then upgrades in the next one.

So in this he gets whipped and electrocuted and it just drops him. And then the follow-up suit in the Avengers, it absorbs electricity. Oh, that's true. So every time something happens to him, there's almost always

the next one is something better. For example, in Infinity War, he makes shields out of like the nanotechnology in the suit

and it wears it down. But in Endgame, it's a laser shield. Exactly. So there's always something he's improving on. So in the next one's gonna um just a big block he just can't get at it wow yeah it's a cube wow yeah it was a ball but it just kept rolling wow it's just got a bunch of cold steaks in it to put on his severe burns yeah but about that fight though on the racetrack

because we're still on it why not um first of all it was supposed to be a bunch of minor villains initially you know like your crimson dynamos and whatever in elon musk yeah but i love how like his instinct is to just build a whip suit just to make him bleed a little bit and then go you lose you didn't lose like he won and everybody knows that he kind of doesn't know what he's doing. Oh, I see, right. And there's aliens coming. It doesn't matter. Do you know what I mean?

This interaction. No, but Whiplash wants the headlines afterwards to say, Iron Man half-asses it again. He gets through on the skin of his teeth like a real dummy yet again. What about this slide, Mason? Go on. Who do you attribute this to? I'm here.

It's me. Deal with it. Oh, that's Rhodey. That's Rhodey. New Rhodey. New Rhodey. So I've got a bit of trivia here in regards to this recasting. Go on.

If you don't mind. So Entertainment Weekly claimed that director Jon Favreau had not been happy with Howard's performance in Iron Man, often reshooting or cutting his scenes. So when it was time for the sequel, Favreau and co-writer Justin Theroux, surprise everybody. Is that a surprise? Yeah, I didn't know. Okay, cool.

Purposely reduced Howard's screen time, which led to Marvel to ask him for a pay cut of 80% Howard refused, claiming that the reason for the pay cut was to meet Robert Downey Jr.'s reported 2,000% salary increase, apparently around $10 million. Oh. Cheeto was sought as a replacement. But do you remember our old friend Ike Perlmutter?

What do I ever, yeah. We talked about him when we talked about the Inhumans. Here's that picture. It makes that ominous noise, remember, for some reason? I don't like it. It's not an edit. It makes this noise. Ben, we don't, he can't fix it. It's not an edit. It makes this noise. Ben, we don't... He can't fix it.

He's tried all manner of editing tricks. You ever walk past a newsstand and it's making a weird ominous humming noise? Mike Perlmutter's in the paper, baby. So Perlmutter allegedly told a Disney consumer products executive that no one would notice because black people look the same. Jeez. Yeah.

So also the Hollywood Reporter reported in 2015 that he attended the premiere of Iron Man in disguise to go undetected because he's really weird about being in public and being seen. And once complained that journalists at a press junket were allowed two sodas instead of one. He's a billionaire, just by the way. He's a billionaire.

Sure. I'm just saying. Anyways, I think the war machine role being beefed up in this is interesting it's an interesting counterpoint he's also got

military tactics you know at the end when they're working together he's like I'll go up here and you go down there and Tony Stark's just like we'll just back to back

this shit whatever I got that laser that works once I'll just do that sure we'll just shoot our repulsors together and blast this guy

turn him into a soup I guess. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think it's cool. It's pretty cool. Yeah. That seems okay.

Maybe they should have put that in the trailer. You know what's more than okay? Sam Rockwell as Justin Hammer. What a dream. The best.

Great addition. I love his little gun montage. Yep. He's making his little speech. Yeah. I wish I had more to say. He improvs that dance. That little his little gun montage. Yep. He's making his little speech. Yeah. I wish I had more to say.

He improvs that dance, that little dance that he does. Well, see, that's the thing. I think he does more with less. Tony Stark needs dancing girls and the Iron Man suit and fireworks and whatever. He's just out there dancing to the average white band, you know? That's true. Bring him back. Yeah. You know, also they should bring bring here's the thing yeah the one thing the

one thing the one issue i do have like the fifth issue you mean okay the fifth issue is i think it'd be better if he was more competent yes you know what i mean i agree he's meant to be this kind of dark rival of tony stark he's meant to be a guy who if Tony Stark hadn't grown a conscience would be this is what he'd turn into. But he's just kind of like a real blowhard. He's not that competent. I guess you could keep him funny and charismatic

and you could keep the little dance but also maybe he knows Kung Fu. The dance would have evil intent. That's right. My goodness. Here's someone that they should have kept and they did. intent yeah that's right my goodness um here's someone that they uh they should they they should have kept and they did uh black widow is introduced in this movie but it's fine and they don't really do anything with it scarlett johansson has talked about how it was like you know at the time it was

great but looking back it's like yeah was it you know what i mean and i think like her fight scene is pretty solid but maybe the cameo should have just been Hawkeye-sized like in Thor. You know what I mean? I think it's just an extra thing that they put in here that you just don't really need for that character right now. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Anyway. Greatest hair in her oeuvre.

I've heard you say that before. I don't know if I agree. I think it's her best hair. We'll think about it. We'll continue to think about it. We'll agree to disagree. What do you think about the inclusion of John Slattery, though? Love John Slattery.

Would you kiss him? Would you kiss him? Yeah, probably. He's going to kiss him, everyone. He's going to kiss him. Here's something I don't like. Go on. I don't like his triangle arc reactor.

I don't think it's as good as... Well, that's why I got tossed for the Avengers, sure. I like it. Anyway, whatever. Here's the thing. What was it going to be, though? It's as good as... Well, that's why I got tossed for the Avengers, sure. I like it. Anyway, whatever. Here's the thing. What was it going to be, though? It's got to be... How else do you...

Octagonal. Okay, right. I was going to say, how else do you illustrate a new element? He's mastered the fundamental forces of the universe. He's become as unto a god. He's created a new element. You're going to make it an octagon? You're not going to make it a triangle?

You ignoramus. I'm an idiot, aren't I? Now that I think about it. You've rolled me in this video. I don't like it. I don't like it, Mason. Don't you remember Albert Einstein said, you make a fundamental new element?

Make it a triangle. That's what he said. Big triangles are more important than knowledge. Is that true? Albert Einstein, yeah. Wow. Guy knew a lot of things. Agreed.

Including how to cheat on his wife. It's neither here nor there. Listen, Mason. Samuel L. Jackson made a nine-picture deal for this. Did you know? I did know that, yeah. And then he very quickly just ran through them. Just ran right through them.

What's he on? He's on, like, picture all of them, I think. Yeah, he's faster. He's been put in movies that aren't even Marvel movies at this point. It's true. I think, though, the Nick Fury subplot, again, doesn't really work because it does feel tacked on and get ready for the Avengers. And he just really spends the entire time negging Tony Stark, doesn't he?

Just like, we thought about putting you in the Avengers and Iron Man could be in the Avengers, but you can't be in the Avengers. We don't like you, but we like Iron Man. You're not as good as Iron Man. Okay, thanks for being in this movie, man. Really cool. Now, it's important we've been following you every step of the way here, but here's our evaluation of you.

I need you to read it out loud. And he opens it up and Scott, what, absolute Muppets? That's hardly fair. It's time for little things, Mason. The segment of the show where we just go, here's something. Here's something. Here's something for nothing. That's what we say.

We sure do. According to Jon Favreau, the Asian man who hands Vanko the false papers in Russia in order to get to Monaco is a member of the Ten Rings, the terrorist organisation Stark encountered in the first film. The organisation is reported, it's Iron Man's nemesis. He's the Mandarin. That's the boss. Big Ten Rings revelation.

That's right. No, little things. Another little thing. Tom Holland is in this sort of. Allegedly, supposedly. We've retconned that in. He's the little boy. He's wearing the Iron Man mask as the Stark Expo is being attacked by the Hammer Drones.

And Iron Man saves him. And he says, good job, kid. That's Peter Parker. That's right. Apparently. We've got to mention the Captain. Iron Man saves him and he says, good job, kid. That's Peter Parker, apparently. That's right, apparently. We've got to mention the Captain. But that's only because people kept saying, hey, Jon Favreau is that. I think Tom Holland did.

He was like, oh, Mr. Feige, please, can I be an Iron Man too? It's my favourite movie. Mr. Feige, please. Please. Please, sir. You don't even have to pay me for the next movie. He's 25. He's not a little boy.

No, that's true. So what do you think about the Captain America shield? Fine. Yep. Good, good fun. Good fun reference. Good. Love it.

What is that though? Because it's not the original Captain America shield. Well, apparently the nod is to the fact that Howard Stark was linked to the super soldier program. So that was the idea that we'd make that connection and we have right now. Also, there's other nods. There's a Project Pegasus crate, which is also referenced in Captain Marvel.

Because her powers come from a thing that exploded in her face or whatever. The magical Pegasus. The legendary mythical beast, sure. That's right. That was in that spaceship or whatever. They were hauling the Pegasus. Oh really? The mythical beast. Is it okay? Oh, it exploded. It exploded real hard. At least you got all the powers of the Pegasus. Oh, really? The mythical beast. Is it okay? Oh, it exploded. It exploded real hard. Well, at least you got all the powers of a Pegasus.

Agreed. There's also a Black Panther reference, because in one scene there's a moment, there's a map in the background, and it's like, something going on in Africa? What is it? Black Panther, though. That's what's going on there. Oh. Here's something for you, Mason.

In the original ending, Whiplash is revealed to have survived the explosion. This is from IMDB, Little Bits. And attacks Tony and Pepper before being killed by Rhodey. The ending was changed to a more ambiguous situation in case Marvel wanted to bring back Whiplash for future movies. As of June 2021, there are no plans to do so. He exploded, right? Fairly unambiguous to me.

It was a soup. They would have opened up that soup and he would have poured out of it. It would have gone down the drain. I've got one more thing to ask you, though. Go on. Minigun Mason. Oh. Mason's famous segment, Minigun Minute.

Minigun Minute. I mean, it's the real thing. It's the real deal. It's the M134. That's the one they mount on a helicopter. Or they mount on Arnold Schwarzenegger. Wait, not Arnold Schwarzenegger. Oh, yes, Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator 2.

Wow. Yeah, but looking pretty good, blown up some cars. But again, it's an impossible yardstick I have, which is just give a scene where a bunch of people are being chopped into soup. Yep, yep, yep. Like you said, that's what I want to see. But I'm going to give this one minigun minute

out of my segment, one mini-gun minute. Wow. So it made the segment. Yeah, yeah. But obviously not the highest rating. Well, yeah. And neither was this movie, Mason. And I'll tell you why.

Why's that? Again, it was the seventh highest grossing film of the year that it came out. So similarly to Iron Man 1, it wasn't a huge box office draw. It was made for somewhere between $170 and $200 million, so a much bigger budget than the first, and it made more at $623 million. But again, what I like about what they've done with the MCU, they didn't go,

I didn't make a billion dollars, pack it in, pack it in. You know what I mean? You've got to build to make it a billion dollars. I agree, yeah. And we'll talk about more billion dollars next week. Speaking of next movies, I really always liked the post-credits scene for this. It's the Thor's hammer situation

simply for the potential of we're getting aliens and space and magic and stuff and there'd be no hints towards that. We'd seen a man who drank a green liquid and he became a big green man. That's his origin. And then we saw a man who was drunk and then he fell into the desert into a suit or whatever. was his origin yeah yeah and now we're doing space hammer people

is that how you think hulk's origin went yeah he drank a big green drink sure it was too big it's all water weight makes perfect sense yeah okay now you're right i was misremembering you're right absolutely right was misremembering. You're right. Absolutely right. Anyway, there you go. I loved it. You know what else I loved? I loved how weird Coulson was in this movie. Do you like how his suits fit better?

Better. Much better. But I like the little back and forth he had with Stark towards the end. He's like, I'm going to go. I was busy doing stuff. Now I've got to do other stuff. Like just two very odd suspicious men having an odd conversation. It's true.

And he's like, we need you Stark, but not that much. Anyway, I'll see you later. I've got to go off and do seven seasons of my own show. I have to beat up people in that mini-mart? Yes. That's that one, right? Yeah. On the way to Thor's Hammer or whatever it is? Yeah. There you go. Anyways, this has been Caravan of Garbage.

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