The Weekly Planet - IT Chapter One (1990) - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: September 5, 2019

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. A new cycle is occurring. A new It cycle, if you will. It's been so many years since the last it movie two years now we're getting another it movie oh is that is that some sort of magical curse will there be another it movie in two years after that i'd say probably even sooner if anything if this movie is successful it sounds like the cycle's accelerating

oh no i have a new it movie every day oh i don't want that no neither do i but maybe they'll be great what if there's a new IT miniseries every day? Funny you should say that, Mason, because that's why we're here. We're here to talk about IT Chapter 1, 1990. IT Chapter 2, also 1990. Also 1990. One day, two days later? Something like that, yeah.

We're going to do part one this week. Come back next week for part two. We're very excited. If anyone's interested. Which you shouldn't be, because these are mostly bad. Okay, let me ask you this. this week come back next week for part two we're very excited if anyone's interested which you shouldn't be because these are mostly bad okay let me ask you this yes first of all give us a like mason give us a bloody thumbs up and to the people in the comments i thought you meant about the miniseries and i'm like i won't give it a like well maybe i'll give my nuanced opinion and then

my thumb will be somewhere in the middle but for this video this particular video we're on yeah definitely big old thumbs up i didn't watch this as a kid. Yeah. This doesn't affect me for good or ill. I think somebody as a kid described it to me. I'm like, that's terrifying.

I don't know if I have the stones, the cojones to watch it. I'll only watch it as a very much a grown adult. Yeah. It's pretty funny. Intentionally? No.

Yeah. I don't think so. I didn't enjoy the amazing comedic performance of whichever the guy is who does the funny voices? Oh, Seth Green's character. And then another guy. I was going to open this podcast with,

Mesa is my name and doing funny voices is my game, but I didn't, and now it's too late. But you can relive that, presumably with the clip that goes in here. One of the funny voices the older version does, though, he's doing a late night talk show and he's doing some comedy and you see him do a yellow face impersonation. Oh, no. Like you pass some monitors. You don't see him do it like in person, but you hear him do it

and he's squinting away. That was the 90s, mate. You could make a great... A different time. A different time. A time when we were alive. But, yeah, this series, I guess, to its credit, it set a lot of things in motion.

Well, what it set in motion was every Stephen King trope and cliche, I think. Yeah, that might be true. Was this the earliest instance, maybe, of all his cliches coming true in the one thing? And maybe it was also setting things in motion for like, oh, we don't have to make these into movies. We can just make 90s telly movies. This, the Langoliersiers probably another thing you know what

i'm talking about this is more structured like the book though well the thing about it being structured as like the book the modern day it movies it's the entire storyline with the the kids as kids yep and then decades later it chapter two presumably is just them as adults this one it's alternates it's the modern day and then flashback to the kids the problem with that is at the end of this there's a climactic battle between's the modern day and then flashback to the kids. The problem with that is at the end of this, there's a climactic battle between the kids and it. And who's going to survive? Probably everyone we saw in the flash forwards, I guess.

All the people who are adults now, which is all of them. Yeah, you're absolutely not wrong. It's also, they changed the start because in the book, and I think also for the new IT Chapter 2, it starts with a hate crime. But this, it's like, what if a clown took another girl? What do you think of that? And then they're like,

but what if a clown then, flashback, took a boy? I'm like, wow, this is getting serious. Yeah, for sure. This is a serious situation. And you've got to watch out if you're a kid in this town and you're not one of the main kids,

you're dead. Yeah, you absolutely are. But in this movie, if you are one of the main kids, watch out because you're going to be scared for a series of months by a variety of non-threatening traps that you can easily escape from if you choose to. Absolutely.

Or we'll just cut away. That's true. Or that are just there for a minute and they aren't. You might fear for your life or your dead dad might show up and say you're fat and then leave. A fate worse than death in some people's opinions. Now, I know a lot of the time we spend on our show the weekly planet podcast and also this caravan of garbage just being like look at this

idiot from a different period of time and i try not to rail on that too much but look at that idiot with that ponytail oh my god so the main character it's tied with a shoestring. Oh, my God. The main character, as with all Stephen King main characters, is a writer and he is. Stephen King. He's Stephen King. He's absolutely Stephen King. I wonder if Stephen King at the time had a ponytail and big aviator glasses or this is Stephen King's like.

Now, if I were a super cool writer in 1990, this is how I would be. If I had the guts, I would grow them. Well, if I'd started growing my ponytail in like 1986, I'd have a majestic ponytail right now, but it's too late, so I'm just going to imagine what I would be like as a 1990 man with an incredible ponytail. Of course, young Bill, played by Jonathan Brandes, who I remember most fondly from Sequest DSV,

where he used to train a dolphin in naval combat that's correct the dolphin could talk something along those lines you say that so skeptically but yeah that's exactly what it was yeah so there's a couple people that are no longer with us uh John Ritter as well yep that's right who plays an architect of some description he's got a nice picture of Time magazine in his house with his face on it that looks like something you'd get at a carnival like a fake printout it's like time's man of the year this guy and there's no description or anything like that it's just this guy time magazine just took a photo of him on the street and was like does anybody know who this is

do not serve alcohol to this man he stole he stole a bottle of champagne from a liquor store that's right he's ben hanscom that's right oh and when you've been handsome that's well that's the thing because when they flash back and they're like look at this fat kid he's not very fat he's like a regular size kid yeah but kids were skinnier in the 70s i guess let's probably less refined sugar yeah well that's true well this is actually is this the this is the 50s though ah whatever even skinnier even skinnier yeah but i feel like also he could beat up all of those bullies like he looks like he's got the strength about him. And those bullies, even though I think one of them is at least 28, I feel, with their greaser haircut.

Yeah, the age range in that class is insane. And they do make mention of like, Henry Bowers, you're going to be kept down again. But the guy behind him, I'm like, is that Henry's dad? Who is this guy? Why is he in here? Is he like another teacher? I don't know what's going on.

He's observing. No, the principal is the smoking man from the X-Files, remember? That's right, yeah. What a world. One of the characters that gets a lot of play in the new movie is Beverly. You know, like a fiery redhead with a troubled past. Do you know what I mean? She's got trouble at home.

She's got trouble at school. And in this, it's kind of the similar kind of storyline, but Ben's like, your hair's like, he sends her a poem. He's like, your hair's like fiery embers. I love it. She's got trouble at home, she's got trouble at school. And in this, it's kind of a similar kind of storyline, but Ben's like, your hair's like, he sends her a poem, he's like, your hair's like fiery embers, I love it. She's got brown hair, she's got regular brown hair. You couldn't just get a redhead? She's got hair like regular embers. Yeah, that's right.

Like, that have been, that are cold on the ground. You know those? And you wake up from camping and you're like, oh my God, I'm so tired, my neck hurts. What I love, though, most about that character is her very 80s and 90s job which is impressing a japanese investor oh absolutely yes wasn't that a big trope of the era yeah i think she didn't bow like deep enough oh but not properly enough yeah but i think

they got the deal done though because they're celebrating afterwards obviously with a bit of champagne and doing it and the boyfriend's got these giant pyjama pants. Giant stripy, yeah, for sure. And the big mullets. It's just, what an era. Yeah. I know we make fun of people from the past a lot for the way they look. And I know people look at us now and go-

It's because they look dumb. Look at these idiots. And we all look fine. And we'll always look fine. Yeah, good point. But I feel like this is way more toned down than not only the book, but the new movie as well. I mean, this was on network television. Yes.

Where the rule is, tell, don't show. The classic rule of... Or cut away. Of video, of cinematic narration. Just tell us a kid's got his arm ripped off and then he died. Don't show it. Exactly. Because in the...

And you know this from the movie, Ben actually gets a gets a letter carved into him yeah doesn't happen here apparently the bit where the blood comes out of the photo was really pushing boundaries they're like are we going to be able to get away with the blood coming out of photo this seems pretty extreme even for 1990 but then everyone was like who cares right i think if it comes out of an inanimate object it's okay because you never actually in in part one at least, you never actually see anybody be physically injured in any way, I don't think. No, I don't believe so. Well, let's talk about Pennywise.

First of all, great performance by Tim Curry. He was actually the original animated The Joker. He performed Mark Hamill as well. But of course, I know Tim Curry. If we're talking 90s sci-fi television, the first time I saw him was Earth 2. The series Earth 2? Uh-huh, sure.

Do you remember Earth 2? I remember Earth 2. Okay, so it's just me and you remember Earth 2 then. Yeah, because we're from Earth 2. He more plays, Pennywise that is, he more plays in this movie like a tired drunk. Just like, I'm going to get you. Just give me a minute.

Hey, kid. Can you cut away? I was going to catch my breath. I climbed out of this sewer and I'm. He's got a good cackle. Look, I need a nap. He's got a fine cackle, but he is just like, hey, kid. Can you cut away? I was going to catch my breath. I climbed out of this sewer and I'm... He's got a good cackle. Look, I need a nap. He's got a fine cackle, but he is just like, hey, kid, if I come over there, I'd kill you.

Yeah, look, I can be a werewolf. What do you think of that? He does become a lot of tropes. Like he becomes a werewolf and he becomes a giant spider and becomes a skeleton out of a lake. He becomes a skeleton out of a lake. Was this Stephen King's, was it his idea to be like, He becomes a werewolf and he becomes a giant spider and becomes a skeleton out of a lake. He becomes a skeleton out of a lake. Yeah. Was this Stephen King's, was it his idea to be like, you know what?

You think things are scary. You think it's a werewolf scary. I do. I think a little thing that I've invented is a little scarier. A clown. So why are your balloons not red? I swear from the book, they were red balloons. I may be wrong.

But the first thing when he's in the train, he's like, look at this yellow balloon. I'm like, oh, come on. That's a staple of the franchise, baby. Maybe it's to keep you on your toes. I might just be, yeah. You never know what balloon's going to come crazily around the corner. Or they were cheaper at the 99 cent store in Maine or whatever. What I love about the bullies in this series is

they're very terrible at being bullies. They've always been hit with rocks or kicked down or just made fun of. They're covered in popcorns and drinks. They're not very threatening. They're just not good bullies. Be better at being a bully. Is this video being sponsored by bullies? That's right.

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A worn-out leather jacket. A dad that beats you up. He's in the box. You know, just some safe-for-TV swear words you can use. Yeah, that's what you need. But I just feel like these are not good bullies. And then at the end, when Henry Bowers, the main bully, turns into Billy Idol. Did you like that?

Oh, for sure. He gets the white hair. Because he's got... With the spider claws over him. Well, again, that's the thing. He's a pseudo main character. So he isn't killed. Rather that he just becomes insane because he's somewhere in the middle.

Yeah. I did like that a lot. Apparently they... For the old version of Mike Hanlon They brushed some Some talcum powder Through his hair With a toothbrush To get that grey

To get that grey Those grey tips You know what I'm talking about I get it yeah yeah yeah And then for Henry Bowers It's clearly just I don't know Like a bad wig

They went to the They went to the Main 99 cent store Okay right That's where all this stuff Look you know In a lot of cases They go if you don't

Understand the trope In this movie A wizard did it Well in this movie If you don't understand it They got it this movie, a wizard did it. Well, in this movie, if you don't understand it, they got it from the Derry, Maine 99 cent store. The shower scene, there's a bit of stop motion in this, including when it comes out of the shower,

or Pennywise comes out of the shower drain or whatever. There's a bit of that going on. I would like your evaluation. Is it bad just for now? Was it also bad in 1990? What else do you do in television in the 90s? You can't really do CGI, can you? That's true, yeah.

So I think it's fine for the time and kind of a fun novelty for now. I never understood, and maybe this is an American thing, but it's certainly not in the school I went to. Is it showers that come off the wall and chase you and corner you and scare you? We have that here. You mean like a communal shower? A communal shower where it's like, you've been running around in gym for 34 minutes?

Get in the shower. Kids run around all day. You don't need to have everyone get in a weird shower room together. It doesn't make any sense. Same with the bullies. Don't do it. Same with the bullies. Did they have switchblade wielding bullies back in that era or not?

Maybe they did. No showers in Australian schools. If anything, you bloody jumped in the lake. You jumped in a lake, mate. You jumped in the, what's the thing we have? A billabong. Jump in a billabong. Jump in a billabong, that's right.

I would love to know, though, if that's like a thing. Yeah. If it's ever been a thing, is it still a thing? If it is a thing, do you like it? I can't imagine anybody would. I don't know, it just seems odd to me. Is that why that scene is so scary for a lot of people? Because it's just a weird clown man perving on you in the shower.

Yeah, but also I think the coach is weird where it's like, where do you think you're going? Have a shower, mate. Get your kit off. Get in a shower. No. No. Don't do it.

Don't do it. Okay, what I really like about It Chapter One, the movie, the newer movie is... That it bloody ends. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I mean, yeah, but also i enjoyed that movie in general is that at the end they really beat up that clown they just lay into him so good it's just it feels like 10 to 11 minutes of him going now i'm a different thing and they're like we

don't care and they just got this crowbar is the thing you've turned into crowbar proof looks like it ain't but in this one it's kind of like it's a slingshot and like, you know. Battery acid. A battery acid or, you know, they pretend it is or whatever because you really only need your imagination to kind of get through it. Oh, yeah. Or whatever. And then he just kind of, he squirrels away down the drain.

I'm like, that wasn't very satisfying. I wish they beat him up way more because they really just circle him and I'm like, that's bullying. That's proper old school bullying. Well, clearly they purchased the bullying kit they must have is the offer code weekly planet pod in chapter one though of course it it ends in they all link hands and like what also starts that way where they're like we're gonna return and then i'm gonna come back and get this clown next week i guess or in 27 years or whatever's going on. Did you find it a satisfying conclusion,

even though they showed the conclusion at the start and you're also aware of the story, I'd imagine? Well, with a leading question like that, my answer is your leading question was very long and I've forgotten which way I'm supposed to go, yes or no? The bad one. I didn't like it. You didn't like it, yeah. I mean, does it have merit for the time, though? Could you see how it would be scary?

Yeah, I think so. And I think having seen part one of the most recent two-parter, we have the benefit of CGI. We have the benefit of you can have him jaw open insanely and have him multiple rows of spinning glowing teeth or whatever. We have a rating system where you can see brutal violence, and we have a budget where if blood comes out from a faucet yeah or like a sink it's not one balloon it's not one balloon it's a room's worth you know

so i think those kids that told me the plot of it at the time all right it would have been scary yeah you're probably right well also this was supposed to be originally george romero was going to do it as like a 10 hour mini series and i'm not sure necessarily that would have been better at the time but i think this would have benefited from i don't know some fleshing out of some of the characters or maybe just make it shorter maybe that's what it would have benefited benefit on look i think it just would have been better if he had have done it in general oh yeah for sure yeah because the guy directed this was like a was like a protege of horror and he's kind of working his way up in the industry but this is kind of where is he? He's waiting for his cycle to come around again. He'll wake up again. Cool. He'll be like, I'm here again.

I'm back. But I'm so tired. Oh, my God. Are we still doing that thing with the balloons? Are we still putting a balloon in a faucet? We're not? Oh. But yeah, look, all in all, it's fine, isn't it?

At least part one was. Apparently part two's not good either. But I look forward to coming back next week to see how is it? How does it even compare to the modern It Chapter Two? Probably worse, I'd imagine. Absolutely worse. I just want to see more ponytails, though. You get that.

Oh, thank God. Yeah. No problem. Anyway, this has been Caravan of Garbage. Don't forget to subscribe because, again, yeah, It Chapter Two next week. And also we have a podcast called The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. We've got an upcoming episode on The New Week Chapter 2 2019. I'm so excited.

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Do you want us to do Ghoulies with the monster coming out of the toilet? I know that's not Stephen King. Close enough. It's just all I think about all day. Do you want us to do the good version of The Shining or the one that Stephen King directed? You just want us to do 10 minutes on the bit in Ready Player One where they go to The Shining Hotel.

That's fine too. All right, guys, we'll see you next week though. Grab that gem, you guys. Goodbye. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean, if you want. It's up to you.

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