The Weekly Planet - Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior allowed director George Miller to take the concepts and character from the 1979 original and really put the boot in. That meant a bigger myth, bigger stunts, bigger men, more butts cut out of leather trousers. And the result was a lot of the iconic imagery we know of the character even today. Forty years on it still holds up and it's influence has been felt across multipe other media propeties. MAD MAX. Mad Max. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of Caravan of Garbage. We're on Mad Max 2, or Mad Max 2 The Road Warrior, or just The Road Warrior, or... A lot of people just thought this was Mad Max 1. The Road? Mm-hmm. The Road? I watched The Road Warrior. A lot of people just thought this was Mad Max 1. The Road? The Road? I watched The Road. Oh, yeah?

What did you think? We were watching that movie about the father and son and they're just pushing a shopping cart through the apocalypse. Yeah, and they've got to avoid cannibals and whatever. Yeah, yeah. It's really sad and grim and the dad dies at the end. That one. Yeah, that's the one.

That's what I watched. Yeah, yeah. This is going to be one of those ones where in high school they ask you to do an essay on Hamlet, but you didn't read Hamlet. You read Macbeth. So you're like, well, actually, Hamlet's dilemma is very similar to Macbeth. And if I could speak to that for 900 words.

No, just kidding. I watch Mad Max 2. Yeah, man. It's a good movie. Are people kidding about leaving a like? Is that something you think? No. No, it's real.

It's real. That's not a joke. That's real. You have to do it. That's real stuff, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I tell you what, man. This movie, it's real. It's real. That's not a joke. That's real. You have to do it. That's real stuff, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I tell you what, man, this movie, it's rad as hell. I really like it.

This is the blueprint, really, for Fury Road. Yes. You know, the first one was the prototype. It's interesting. You know, it's got some good stuff in it. Yeah. And it's got some real down-to-earth Australian stuff. Boy, does it.

As I think we mentioned, the first one is a combination between, like real movie but also the uh soap opera a country practice but this one the stakes have been upped and this is it it's got it's got the big chases it's got the big action it's got the it's got big men it's got big men it's got big colorful characters who are big men yeah you recognize a lot of like the jalopy cars that again kind of carried over into other movies specifically fury road it's funny because after the first one george miller was like I recognise a lot of the jalopy cars that, again, kind of carried over into other movies, specifically Fury Road. It's funny because after the first one, George Miller was like, that was bad, I had a bad time. It took me forever to get that thing working.

Oh, you tell me this now. I said nice things about it last week. No, no, no. Well, if he thinks it's bad, I think it's bad too. He wasn't saying the movie was bad, he was saying the experience. And he was like... But what is he saying? He's saying it was hard to get that movie made. Right he said it was hard to watch george no it wasn't

no it was and he said it was just problem after problem and maybe he's not cut out for filmmaking and australian filmmaker peter weir was like yeah man that's filmmaking you did it right that's it's just problem solving and he was like oh okay All right, I could make another movie then. Right then. And he said a lot of the stuff that went into this was a result of editing the original Mad Max and going through just being like, hate that, hate that. Oh, that's fine. Hate that.

And he did that for nine months. Mel Gibson, that's fine. Yeah. He'll do it. He'll go again. Because he cut the first movie in the kitchen while Byron Kennedy did the sound in the next room. And so he just looked at that movie for nine months straight and was just like, oh my God.

But that was kind of like a film school. By the time he got to this, he was offered Rambo First Blood, which I think is just called First Blood. What's it called? I can't remember. They keep changing them on the box sets, all of which I own. It's called Rambo the Road Warrior. That's right. yeah, yeah.

So he turned that down and went, no, I want to go into this. I think he should adopt our method, which is just leaving the editing to somebody more talented than him. Yeah. Don't even worry about it. It's fine. And every now and then the editors, they'll pop in just to let you know that they're working hard.

Wildly working. Am I right? Am I right? Pretty easy out there when you've got some gold. I tell you what what you're not wrong yeah and you know what's something that george biller accidentally tapped into which they lean into on this is the myth of this lone warrior a road warrior if you will i won't but continue well you you kind of build towards this character in the first one and he realized that

he tapped into this hero's journey kind of archetype and this is the central focus now of these movies i'm glad that he went with kind of like mythological kind of folk hero which is kind of an australian kind of you know and it's purely australian nobody else has that that's exactly right and i'm glad he went with that as opposed to like another australian kind of idea like the larrikin like maybe what, what if Mad Max was just going through like years and multiple movies just being like funny in a mean way to everybody? And then going, nah, you're alright. Nah, I'm just kidding.

Nah, just kidding. I fucking hate you. Nah, you're alright. Nah, just kidding. Buy me a beer though. I'm a larrikin. I'll beat you up. Nah, just kidding.

I'm a drunk. Not kidding. I am. I'm a big drunk. Yeah, no, you're right. It's good that they leaned into this aspect of it. So Mel Gibson in the first one at time of filming, he was 21 years old. He was a real young fella.

This one's pretty much set in real time afterwards, like three to five years. And apparently when George Miller caught up with him again, he's like, oh, look at how this guy's mature. Look at him. He's all weathered and looking rough and all of that. I think that's just punch punching darts because Mel Gibson was a very heavy smoker. I don't know what he's up to now. We don't need to look into

any of that, do we? No! Clean living and keeping below the radar, you know? Exactly, yeah. But it was also Mel Gibson's idea to make Max look as rough and ragged as possible. You know, he's got some grey in his temples. Apparently he cut his own hair before this. You can tell.

Boy, can you? Everybody in this movie has very 2024 Australian male hair. Have you noticed? Yes, they do. Absolutely. Mustaches and mullets and just crew cuts on one side. Cutting their own hair but missing the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you want the Mad Max 2 Road Warrior experience, just go to an Australian music festival. It's the people on stage. It's the people in the audience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you want the Mad Max 2 Road Warrior experience, just go to an Australia music festival. It's the people on stage, it's the people in the audience, it's just everybody there. So yeah, cutting the sleeve off the outfit,

all of that, that was Mel Gibson. He's like, I want to be looking rough and real. And boy does he. I saw an interview with Mel Gibson

about this movie. It's something I didn't notice but it worked so well is that in all the action sequences for this, he looks terrified and I think it really helps sell it as opposed to like a Fast and Furious where it's just like whatever. Whereas here it's like this guy looks like he thinks he's going to die.

And he might. And he might, yeah. Again, like the first one, astounding nobody died in this. Oh, well, there's been some severe injuries and we can get to those. I maintain my position. It's amazing nobody died. Yeah, no, you are correct. Including the dog, who was named Dog in real life.

It was found in a local pound and it was going to be euthanized like the next day. He ended up being euthanized after the film. No, that's not true. One of the camera operators took him. He lives in the Hollywood Hills now. That's right, yeah. He's done some very shady stuff.

Don't look into it. Don't look into it. Don't Google Dog. Don't do it. But I love that dog's right, yeah. He's done some very shady stuff. Don't look into it. Don't look into it. Don't Google dog. Don't do it. But I love that dog in this, though. It's got a little neckerchief. Sure. At one point, it's holding Bruce Spence hostage.

Absolutely. Which is great. Wouldn't we all want to do that? Oh, my God. How long was Bruce Spence lying in the dirt waiting for Mad Max? That's a great question. So he's, you know, New Zealand- Australian actor Bruce Spence has been in a hundred. He's in Revenge of the Sith.

He's in Revenge of the Sith. He's one of those guys with the teeth. He's in Matrix. He's got the face and the teeth. He's in the Matrix. He's in second or third Matrix. Could be in like a hundred movies easily. He's in third Mad Max, but he's playing a different.

He is playing a different guy. The helicopter flying man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, local legend. He's played a different guy. Helicopter flying man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, local legend. But yeah, he plays the gyro captain and his plan is to lie in wait under the sand with his gyrocopter as a prize for any roving bandits with an obviously venomous snake wrapped around it. How long does he wait? Months? I guess so. That snake's just staying? Yeah.

Yeah. My goodness. Snakes love gyros. I would poke the snake with a stick. You could just get the stick. I was going to say you'd poke it with a stick. Maybe you'll not find any sticks, you know? In the outback, in the Australian outback.

Yeah, maybe. In the future. Oh, yeah, by the way, in between one and two, things went downhill just before the first Mad Max started, but there was a nuclear war in between these movies, and that explains why it's a little bit more barren. Everybody's a little bit more cutting the bum out of your pants. Absolutely.

Things have gotten a little bit out of hand. That got caught in the blast, the bum of the man's pants. That's where Mel Gibson's sleeve went. It got caught in the blast. He was running from the blast. Goddamn, at least it wasn't my bum. That's right. That would be embarrassing.

Let's talk about that gang though, right? Uh-huh. They're a fun gang. I know they're bad dudes. Yeah. And I like those two best friends on a bike. They're good friends, aren't they? Just two mates hanging out.

I love how they're good friends. Probably roommates too. Well, actually there is backstory to these guys. So first of all, costume designer Norma Morisot designed all of this. I think it works perfectly. Again, you can see most of this at an Australian music festival. It all holds up. Also, that dog boy killed that blonde dude.

Just a boomerang to the head. That's right. I don't think that was... I know they were like a roving gang of marauders, but that seemed completely unnecessary. Like that guy of all the guys, you know? Yeah, you know. Good as any, I guess.

When you've got a big steel boomerang, everything looks like something you can hit with a big steel boomerang. Somebody's forehead. You know that old Australian adage? Oh, yeah, that's true. Where'd he get the boomerang also? He made it. People are like, oh, Australian boomerangs.

Nobody's got one of those. He's got one. That's a good point. He's still got it in real life as well, that actor. He's now a jeweller. Oh. Yeah, that's right. There's also a rumor

you probably heard this there's a fan theory that the tom hardy incarnation of mad max is actually the dog boy well he's called like feral kid or whatever but if you look at any of the fury road prequel comics that is not the case this is technically the same mad max or they're all set in different dimensions they don't line up. That speaks to... Let's not add a multiverse to this. No, it's just the mythology. That's the idea behind it. These are stories people are telling about this guy,

about this lunatic running about. And in the real universe where they're telling these stories, everything's fine. The Mel Gibson universe. Yeah, that's right. The real world. Everything's fine. It's fine.

Don't worry about it. Yeah. So apparently the actor who played the blonde guy who gets the boomerang to the head, here's his name. I didn't write it down. They were looking for some- Very disrespectful. I'm sorry.

To blonde guy. I know. Whose name I don't have here that I didn't write down. Apparently George Miller was looking for somebody with this exact specifications, right? Okay. And he was a courier who went past their office in belmaine in sydney and george miller was like grab that guy sure that's the guy grab that guy rip the bum out of his pants let's go and then tell him about his role on the way let's go let's get a broken hill

and apparently according to vernon wells who plays the mohawk guy you would have seen in other things he's bennett in commando he is exactly. Let off some steam, Bennett, etc. Because they all made up their backstories. He said that they're not actually lovers, as implied. Sure. So he said, apparently there was a deleted scene where it's explained that Wes rescued Golden Boy, which is his name, not in real life, this is his real name,

and became a surrogate father to him. Apparently, though, there's no evidence of this aside from this statement. So I don't know. It doesn't seem like that's the relationship. A father-son dynamic. There's a deleted scene where they're both in separate houses kissing their girlfriends goodbye as they go to work on the biker gang on their single bike.

That's right. Also, this is fun. Mel Gibson called Vernon Wells barometer bum because of the outfit he was wearing for the role of Wes because his butt cheeks would turn purple when it got really cold. And so that meant that everybody had to be warmed up at that point. Sure, okay, great. That works for me.

Works for you. Yeah, that's fun, isn't it? That's a nickname you can give to any of your friends. That's right. It's free. Also, it's, yeah, it was really cold during the filming of this. You can't really tell because it looks like barren and hot and desert-y, but no, it was cold.

And they only used the shot where he had a flushed pink bum to indicate warmth. So, you know, based on that barometer, you would assume it was nice and warm. You reckon they're make-upping his bum? Yes. You'd have to, wouldn't you? I think so, yeah. You assume it was nice and warm. Checking their makeup in his bum? Yes. You'd have to, wouldn't you? I think so, yeah. You want it to match. You want some continuity.

Some bum continuity. Absolutely. Yeah. Anyway, it's humongous. You know the story about this, right? No. Here we go. I don't know what the story's going to be.

Here we go. You didn't even give me one clue. Okay. You don't know the story of this guy? Who is he really? What's the theory? What was the original idea? Oh.

Don't know. It was the goose. It was Mad Goose. theory? What was the original idea? Oh, I don't know. It was the goose. It was Mad Goose. What? That was the idea initially. But he got blown up or something. Yeah, he got blown up or something. He got burnt, etc.

So it was supposed to be Goose, but that was nixed pretty early on. Also, he looked... FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost.

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which implies that they were cops or got them from cops. They were probably cops. They were probably cops, Mason. And his sidearm is very similar to the MFP's sidearm. But again, these are things that could be stolen. Or they were cops. Or most of them were cops, Mason. But they just had access to that armory and the motor pool, etc.

But what we do know of his backstory is, because George Miller often leaves a lot of this stuff blank, Humongous was some kind of military man who'd been in a severe accident. You do see some hints towards him. You see his parents at one point in a photo. Oh, yeah, that's right. It's in his gun case. Yeah, he might have some German ancestry or something. I thought that maybe it was his wife.

We don't know. Oh. Yeah, we don't know. Maybe that was his roommate. We don't know. Ask Barometer Bum. Don't you think? Yeah, I do think that, yes.

The stunts in this, though, it's bigger than ever. There's buggy flips. At one point, one gets dragged by the truck. That's all good stuff. I'm loving all of that. Oh, what's the story this time around? Do people like that? Are people like, well, look, I haven't watched the movie.

Well, let me think. Mad Max is having a nice time in the Australian Outback. Yep. He's got lots of bullets as well. Don't worry about it. He's got more than he needs. He's giving them away at tips at local cafes and stuff. Thanks for the flat white.

Here's a bullet. But then he needs some fuel. Yep. Don't we all? Yeah. I mean, with the bloody prices we got these days. And then? He runs afoul of some marauders.

He does run afoul of some marauders. But then he learns that there's an oasis. There's a little boarded off encampment. And they've got all the fuel he could possibly need. So he's going to go there and he's going to bargain for fuel. That's right. And they're like, why don't you work for us? And he's like, all right.

You got me. I'm a bit of a workaholic. You got me. And a drunk. I'm drunk. Yeah, that's right. So at the end, Mad Max has to take, sorry, Matthew Max has to take the tanker and protect the fuel

while they're all coming after him so everybody else can escape. Twist though, turns out that they swapped the fuel out. That's right. Apparently there is some contention about whether or not he knew that there was no fuel in that, but I think it's pretty obvious that he didn't know, right? Yeah. And they screwed him. He said, I thought this was fuel, and I thought that was goose.

All my assumptions were incorrect. And I think that's important that you question your assumptions. Absolutely. This version of Mad Max 2, sorry, this was made around the era where like every movie and every cartoon had a moral at the end and a nice lesson for kids. It's like, hey, listen, we've all had fun. We've all flipped a tanker in the desert.

That's right. But what have we learned? Don't do that, baby. Don't do that. And don't have a big hole in the back of your pants. Don't do that either. You'll catch a death of cold. I imagine sitting on a bike with a bare bum.

I can't even imagine. Anyway, the tanker roll chase at the end. It was deemed so dangerous that the driver, Dennis Miller, he wasn't allowed. Like Dennis Miller, famous political comedian? No, he was just, I want to talk about this guy. He was just a truck driver. And they're like, can you flip this? Let's get this guy. Come here. We'll put you in a truck. We'll flip it. We're going to cut the bum out of your pants. Are you going to say that on film? No,

no, no, no. But it's your character, Mad Max. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mad Max, this is what he want. But he was told not to eat any food for 12 hours before in case he needed to go to surgery, you know, because of the truck flip truck flip sure apparently it rolled traveling 104 kilometers per hour or 65 miles per hour that's pretty fast and i found a story on reddit concerning a facebook post from his daughter kelly miller and apparently again he wasn't a stunt driver and he also wasn't paid for this oh he was given the mac bulldog from the bonnet which he still has okay and then he went to them for payment and they were like oh we don't actually have any money for that thing that you got the mac bulldog thing on the front of the truck so

you can have that yeah and also aren't you doing this for the exposure well that's pretty much in 40 years some people will talk about it on youtube you probably get some work from that probably get some work from that well Probably get some work from that. Well, yeah, he worked on three. So he was happy to do it, but maybe someone even now at Water Brothers could pay this man. Maybe. Don't you think? I think so too.

Because he flipped this truck, this thing that people remember. Or they could delete Mad Max 2 in its entirety off the internet. I'd be happy with that. They could do it. Yeah, yeah. But there was a severe injury in this. You would have definitely seen the moment because they put it in film the moment where the guy clips the bike and pinwheels so that was guy norris clearly something

had gone wrong when he hit that he wasn't supposed to hit it at that speed and and any of that and so that when they took him into the hospital to see what was wrong he didn't actually break any bones but he had a pin in his leg from a previous operation, from a hip operation, and that was bent severely. So that's what went wrong for him. So he didn't technically break any bones, which is good, because he already had a giant metal rod in his leg, which is lucky. Which is why we don't have to pay you.

That's how the meeting went afterwards. I tell you what, though. Do you think it's weird the ending of this is just Humongous just kills himself? I feel like he didn't have to do that, right? Yeah, maybe. Was he just like, whatever, I had a good run. I guess. I mean, doesn't that speak to the...

The nihilistic nature? Yes, exactly. Plus, you also get the rare double bad guy kill. That's true. Which we talked about recently in Zorro. Yeah, yeah, Plus, you also get the rare double bad guy kill. That's true. Which we talked about recently in Zorro. Yeah, yeah, Zorro's good for that. But boy, it's always satisfying when you see that. It's a good one.

Maybe he was like, this will be great for anybody watching. Yeah. Or anybody telling a story about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Any kind of dog boy who happens to be watching. Maybe somebody's watching this on some sort of old-timey steampunk telescope from over on that ridge. They're going to see this.

Imagine looking at that. They are going to bloody dine out on this at the pub later. Oh, my God. In real time, you watch this unfold. First of all, you'd be like, what is this? What's happening here? And then you see that. My goodness.

Again, we're assuming this all takes place in like a, you know, in a... Everything's normal. Everything's normal. But there's just a patch of desert. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You take a wrong turn from like Chadston Shopping Centre and you drive out into the wilderness and all of a sudden there's a...

Just a destruction derby of lunatics. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, wow, we're going to go back to muffin break. Anyways, you know what it's time for? What's it time for? It's the road to trivia. I love that.

This is the trivia section of the show. And here we go. Mel Gibson only had 16 lines of dialogue for this entire film. And two of them is that I only came for the gasoline. Interesting. There you go. Could have saved money. Just ADR'd that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or he could have said something. Like he could have mixed it up. Oh, yeah. Could have said, listen. Yeah. I told you. Yeah. I only came for the gasoline. Yeah, yeah, yeah. up. Oh, yeah. He could have said, listen, I told you. I only came for the gasoline.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He could have said, I'm here to eat a Chiquito and have some gasoline, and I've finished my Chiquito. You already finished it. That's a local candy bar reference. I don't know if they still make those. They shouldn't.

They're not very good, are they? Yeah. What's in them? What are they doing? Is it a biscuit? What if they're still around? We could get a Chiquito sponsorship. I guess we could. They're great. Oh, yeah they? What's in them? What are they doing? Is it a biscuit? What if they're still around? You could get a Chokito sponsorship. Yes, we could.

They're great, as far as I know. Yeah, they're great. Now, obviously, this has influenced a lot of movies, this kind of aesthetic. You might have even seen it in the movie The Road, which you watched instead of this. This includes the Japanese manga and anime series Fist of the North Star.

That makes a lot of sense. Got a lot going on. And I've seen and read all of that. So without getting into any of the specifics, that is true. Because once you get started, you'll never stop talking about it. Can you even imagine? Can you imagine if we did an episode on that, how detailed it would be? Incredible.

I don't think we even cared. Yeah. Too much knowledge. And then I'd be talking about anime and manga that parallels that. Sure. It'd be a four hour long video part one absolutely seven yeah we can't do it i'm sorry don't even get started uh george miller recalls meeting joe dante years later and having the gremlins director tell him that he could tell

the road warrior was a low budget film because of how frequently it moves between sunrise sunset and everything in between all during the same scene and george said, yeah, you certainly can't wait for your light. You just have to keep shooting. So I didn't notice that at all. No, neither did I. Yeah, I got caught up in all the other details that I noticed about this movie, all the filmmaking stuff.

And Miller would be like, sorry, I couldn't hear you, Joe Dante, over making Mad Max Fury Road. Massive success. I couldn't hear you over that. No. And also Happy Feet or whatever else I did. Yeah, whatever else I did Yeah whatever else

Babe? He directed Babe 2 But he was heavily involved In Babe 1 Yeah that's good Babe 2 The Road Warrior That's right Miller said also

It only took one year From the point where He began writing the screenplay To its theatrical release Which is pretty incredible You know when you've got A good thing going It just goes

And it's fine You don't even have to Really put that much work Into it Just kind of You know it's like A snowball effect good thing going, it just goes and it's fine. You don't even have to really put that much work into it. Just kind of, you know, it's like a snowball effect. Sure, sure, sure. Hand it off to the editors. It's fine.

That's right. And the ending where Max ends up all dusty, George Miller thought, that's exactly how we should have started the film, and that's what they did in Fury Road. Because he's very dusty in Fury Road. He's so dusty. If he were an Australian country musician, he'd be slim dusty.

He would be. And if he was a politician, he'd be Paul Keating. A notoriously non-dusty man. That's right. That doesn't mean anything, by the way. No, no, no. We're just trying to shoehorn in references here.

What else do we have? If he were a chocolate bar, he'd be a Chiquito. He would be, absolutely. As we've established. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If he was a Saturday morning kids TV show, he would be Agro's Cartoon Connection. There we go, perfect.

All right. He's quite aggro, isn't he? He really is. He could be called Agro Max. Actually, he's not that bad in this one either, is he? No. Yeah. Is he insane?

Or does the fact that he's so calm indicate that he is insane? Maybe that's it. I think four he definitely is. They lean into that. We'll get to it. Anyways, the box office for this. This was the most expensive Australian film ever produced at the time with a budget of $4.5 million,

and the return internationally was $36 million, significantly less than the first one. But again, this is the one that I budget of $4.5 million and the return internationally was $36 million, significantly less than the first one. But again, this is the one that I think played on TV. This is the one that did really well on home rentals and et cetera. So this is the one that when you think original Mad Max movies, it's this one. Again, most people wouldn't have seen the first one. They've just seen this.

Yeah, and probably Thunderdome. So everybody was in it for the exposure and that's great, I think. and probably Thunderdome. So everybody was in it for the exposure, and that's great, I think. That's right. That's right. And listen, we're in it for the exposure, but we're also in it for money. Because if you head over to bigsandwich.co, which is like our private Patreon service, you sign up, there's early videos.

These videos go up there early, don't they? That's right. There's also bonus podcasts. We do movie commentaries. We do video game Let's Plays. Oh, my God, there's so many of those, and they're all great. Also, our podcast called The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows,

that comes out there Sunday as opposed to Monday, if you do want to check it out. We're just having a good time. That's right. Or just, you know, we have a podcast and stay here or whatever. If he were a potato chip, he'd be a Red Rock Deli. Wow. Yeah, that's right.

That's a good one. Good reference, right? What chip would you do from the Red Rock Deli? Probably honey soy chicken. I'd do a salt and vinegar. I like their salt and vinegar. He'd be a salt and vinegar, I think. Oh, he would be.

Because that's authentically Australian, isn't it? Correct. Only Australia has those. It's true. He'd be a 4 and 20 pie, James. I don't like... From a service station. I don't like the pie.

I don't like meat pies. He doesn't care. No, he doesn't. That's right. He doesn't care what you like. I'd do a pasta or a sausage roll over a pie any't like the pies. I don't like meat pies. He doesn't care. No, he doesn't. That's right. He doesn't care what you like. I do a pasta or a sausage roll over a pie any day of the week. Wow. Yeah.

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