The Weekly Planet - Mad Max: Fury Road - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

Mel Gibson is out and Tom Hardy is in! Mad Max finally returned after a 30 year hiatus with Fury Road. This time around he's tangled himself up with Immortan Joe, a warlord of the wastelands on a veng...eful quest to retrieve his stolen brides from Charlize Theron's Furiosa. And it turns out it's a pretty good movie with all its stunts and cars and punching and explosions and whatever. Thanks for checking out our reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy, which can put us two times more at risk of heart disease or stroke. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of Caravan of Garbage, where we're talking about Mad Max Fury Road.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Wow! Finally. Ah. We crawled our way out of the 70s and 80s. Yuck. And into the modern era of 2015. Oh, yuck, still a bit? But alright, I guess.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Why isn't, don't you just wish everything was now? I really do. Yeah. Oh, but now's bad too, isn't it? Oh, yeah. And then if we go far enough into now, we get the post-apocalypse, don't we? That's yuck too, isn't it? I just long for an era.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I don't know what it is. Sure, absolutely. But I miss it. Or I wish it was here. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, if I lived to this post-apocalyptic future, I'd want to be known as the legendary guy who's having a bit of a lie down.
Starting point is 00:01:23 You know? And no one ever bothers him. No. Because he just seems, you're not bothering anyone. That's right. People respect it. And they left him alone forever and he had a big old nap. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:35 And then he woke up and he got a brunch. A brunch of gasoline and bullets. And everybody likes him so much they left a like on this video, didn't they? That's right. Now what I've noticed and I've seen it in the comments on the other videos that we've done on this series, is that some people are fucking crawling over each other to let you know that they don't like this movie. Really? That this movie isn't actually very good.
Starting point is 00:01:57 This one, Fury Road. Yeah, which is like, okay, that's totally fine that you think that, but just calm down. We're proud of you that you think that, but just calm down. We're proud of you that you have a very unique opinion. That's right. You don't have to like it. It's fucking incredible, by the way. Yeah, I agree. In my opinion.
Starting point is 00:02:12 That's right. I mean, it's not to say we won't make some lighthearted fun at it in this upcoming video, but yeah, it's really good. Now, when this was announced, I didn't think it was going to be any good. No. Maybe that's the reason for these comments here. Maybe they, like me, they went, oh, from mastermind George Miller.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Oh, okay. Happy feet. Babe too. And then it came out and they're like, well, I can't admit that I was wrong. But I was wrong. It's good. I was right because I always knew. You didn't know anything.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I might have thought about it for a time. No, I just remember this stalling for decades. Sure, yeah. And I have a very condensed version of that process, if you'd like to hear it. Okay, sure. You can say no. If you want a really long, very extended version of that,
Starting point is 00:02:56 you can read the book Blood, Sweat and Crone. Yes. Which is a series of interviews, sort of snippets all put together into a big book about the creation of Mad Max Fury Road. But don't read it now. No, no. It's too long.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Yeah, it's too long. Watch this video. It doesn't have any little jokes either. No, probably not. And this is free. It's free. BigSandwich.co. We'll talk about that later.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Okay, so Mel Gibson was initially going to return. And George Miller's initial idea for this in 1987 was, could I pull off one continuous chase over the entire time? Which is mostly what this is. They stop for a minute sometimes and go, bloody hell. Bloody hell, I'm tired. Boy, we've been in a big chase. This has been hectic.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Bloody hell. Bloody hell. So the film actually entered pre-production in the early 2000s and was set to star Mel Gibson, who would return. America's Mel Gibson. I don't think that would work. No, no. That's what they said. They said, this is going to work.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And Sigourney Weaver was apparently considered for the female lead, which makes more sense considering they're closer in age at this point. I want to talk about Max's age in this as well. It's kind of, it's a little bit confusing. It is, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Production on this, though, was indefinitely postponed after September 11 caused the American dollar
Starting point is 00:04:07 to collapse against the Australian dollar. It basically doubled the budget of the movie. A tragic time, but also, oh my God, do you remember? You could get so many American shoes for a reasonable price. That's right, yeah. There's an interesting article that people might want to check out. It's an oral history of Mad Max by the New York Times. This is by a production designer, Colin Gibson.
Starting point is 00:04:30 He said, I was in Namibia, which is where this initially was going to film, and then it moved to Broken Hill. But then Broken Hill got rained out and flowers grew, so they moved it back to Namibia. That's a whole other thing. That was over like 10 years that happened, by the way. I was in Namibia in 2003 when I whole other thing. That was over like 10 years that happened, by the way. I was in Namibia in 2003 when I got a call
Starting point is 00:04:46 to stop spending money. I don't know whether the studio decided to reroute their money back into the Iraq war or if it was the email I got from Mel Gibson's wife asking me how many Muslims
Starting point is 00:04:56 there may or may not be in Namibia and therefore how interested she may or may not be in the whole family coming to visit. She might have been like,
Starting point is 00:05:05 are there a lot of Muslims there? Because I would love that. I don't want to breed my family. Sounds like an accurate statement. Yeah, absolutely. Or maybe it was Colin's own wife saying, stop buying so many American shoes. Stop spending your money on those shoes.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Now, of course, we do have to address the reason Mel Gibson is not in this movie. Age is definitely a factor. Even he himself said, I have aged out of this role. And that's the only thing he said. That's right. It's the only statement he's made of any kind to any news outlet or authority figure in years.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Maybe a phone call to his ex-wife, maybe a voice message. Don't even worry about any of that. So yeah, and George Miller's even said, listen, because of... Listen. Listen. I'm a doctor, listen up. And they're still friendly, but he said, because of what Mel Gibson was going through listen up and they're still friendly but he said because of what mel gibson was going through in the 2000s he's like we're gonna move away from
Starting point is 00:05:49 this and we're gonna we're gonna recast by this i mean you we're moving away from this this mel gibson uh but look despite all of that mel gibson went to the premiere he's seen it he loves this movie so you know it is what it is and if you're like well what did mel gibson even do show me evidence you fucking look into it all right what if you're like, well, what did Mel Gibson even do? Show me evidence. You fucking look into it. All right? Why don't you do your own research, okay? Why don't you do your own research, man with a funny voice? Well, I don't do that.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Well, you should. Also, bear in mind that nobody's upset who was involved in this movie. They're all fine with Mel Gibson not doing this movie, including Mel Gibson. I mean, it's against the spirit of Mad Max for nobody to be upset during the making of this movie, but all right. Oh, no, there's people upset. We'll talk about that. Fury Road also at one point was going to be adapted
Starting point is 00:06:31 into a 3D anime because, of course, George Miller did the Happy Feet movie, so he had moved into the 3D environment. We could have got a Studio Ghibli Mad Max. Oh, my God. Here's what that would look like. Now, we can't use AI for this, so somebody's going to have to draw it by hand.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Here it is. Amazing. Maybe we could use AI just this one time, you know. Oh yeah. But we'll say we didn't. Okay. It eventually started filming in the early 2010s and made its way to screens in 2015. What I like about this one as well is, and some people don't
Starting point is 00:07:03 like this, and I think it's actually fairly valid despite my criticisms of their criticisms earlier, it is a different beast from the other Mad Max movies. Yes. And I guess they're all different from each other, but this one feels very different. But it does have one thing in common with the other movies. There's not a shred of CGI in this movie, Mason. Not a single little bit. This film is often held up as like, this is what you can do with practical effects and all
Starting point is 00:07:25 of that and stunt work and that is true there is a lot of mostly real stunts and crashes and people and all of that but you know cars for example they cgi'd all those in that's right yeah there's no actors no there's no cgi those no actors in this at all but look there is a lot of cgi in this if you look at the storm that they ride through the first crash that max and knucks have in the car that's obviously cgi all the night shooting in this was day for night so they had to change the sky to a night sky and all of that they erase tire tracks because you know if you do multiple takes you look at the ground and you can see oh there's four sets of tracks here they did this four times that's right yeah when there was only one set of tracks that's when jesus was carrying him in a v8 commodore that's right uh Yeah. When there was only one set of tracks, that's when Jesus was carrying him in a V8 Commodore.
Starting point is 00:08:07 That's right. And visual effects supervisor Andrew Jackson said that there are over 2,000 visual effects shots in this movie. So, yeah, there you go. Aesthetically, how do you feel about this? Orange. Yeah, orange. George Miller went, I want colourful and I want beautiful.
Starting point is 00:08:22 He thought if people are living in this world, they would make the most of it. You try to make it as visually appealing with whatever old crap you've got lying around. I would say colorful and I would say biblical. Oh, I like that. You know who else would like that? Jesus. Jesus would like that. He would love that.
Starting point is 00:08:39 It's very Ten Commandments, a lot of this, a lot of the action sequences. And it's got a return to Oz vibe, a lot of it. Sure, yeah. If you feel like that. You know, there's the porcupine cars. There's those weirdo stilt walkers. It's their deal. Love that.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Get over it. They are over it. No, I mean, but they're just wandering around on those stilts for attention, I reckon. Oh, okay, yeah. So someone stops and goes, hey, what's this about? And they go, you wouldn't understand. That's right. We've been working on this for a while.
Starting point is 00:09:05 It's not something you can just tell you. Yeah. Yeah. I love that altar of steering wheels that they've got. Oh, yeah. That's great. In the Citadel. I'm loving that.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I'm loving the look. Yeah. I think the idea that the way that the war boys operate, they're just these chromed up lunatics. This whole society is built on this like false religion and deity and all of that, on the scraps of the old world. I love all of that. And this is just one community. What else is out there? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:33 What kind of hellish post-apocalyptic citadel has been built on the ruins of the Bell Street McDonald's, for example? A lot of hot rod heads over there, aren't there? What's that turned into? We've made it with AI. Here it is is mason we're not allowed to do that it's just a picture of the bell street mcdonald's then in the car park there it is how do you feel about tom hardy in this unplaceable accent yes he's the king of that he's the king of the strange accent for no reason i feel he could do an australian accent yeah but he didn't. He's done this accent.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Just muttering about, rolling around in the desert. Do you think that is a deliberate choice to make people wonder if he is, in fact, the original Mad Max? Or if he's a different guy? He is, which we talked about last week. But I don't know. I think it was probably just an acting choice. A lot of this was also dubbed after because you've got the roar of the engine. You've got people screaming at each other.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You've got to kind of. So it was re-dubbed, the entire thing, for the most part. Yeah. Oh, do you want some finalists for who was going to play this role? Yes. Okay. So we've got Armie Hammer. Dodged a bullet there.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Armie Hammer. Yes. Do you think he wouldn't have had a good time? Yeah, he wouldn't have had a good time. It's very dry out there, you know. Chapped lips he would have had. And he needs those lips. Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Jeremy Redder, Michael Fassbender, Joel Kinnaman, Heath Ledger was apparently very close but passed away. Eric Banner and Eminem apparently, but he didn't want to leave the United States of America. And he didn't want to shave his head. And he didn't want to shave his head, no, no. Is he a shaved head guy? Sort of.
Starting point is 00:11:03 He's a crew cat guy. He is a crew cat guy, yeah. And famously, this is in that book that you mentioned as well, Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron, they clashed throughout the entirety of this eight-month shoot. It was a real situation, let's just say. Here's a little story, Mason. Go on.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Apparently it culminated on one particular day, and this is after a long period of them icing each other out or arguing. Apparently they'd be in the front seat of the truck and everyone's just in the back just like watching these two just bicker at each other. And Tom Hardy said, Charlize, I've had it with you and he ripped her arm right off. And George Miller went, hmm,
Starting point is 00:11:37 something in this. Reattach that arm, we'll rip her other arm off, we'll put a prosthetic on it. Cinematographer Mark Golanick said On one day at 11 o'clock Charlize Theron was sitting in the war rig With the full makeup and costume And she'd been doing that for three hours
Starting point is 00:11:54 Tom Hardy turns up late And he walks casually across the desert So she jumps out of the war rig And she starts swearing her head off at him saying Find this fucking c*** A hundred thousand dollars for every minute That he's held up the crew, and how disrespectful are you?
Starting point is 00:12:07 She was right, full rant. She screams it out. It was so loud. It was so windy. You might have heard some of it, but he charged up to her and went, what did you say to me? It was quite aggressive.
Starting point is 00:12:17 She felt really threatened. He used the Bane voice. What did you say to me? She felt really threatened, and that was a turning point, because then she said, I want someone as protection. So she then had a producer that was assigned to be with her the whole time now they've apparently made up since and tom hardy actually apologized to george miller in a press
Starting point is 00:12:33 conference for this saying i didn't know what you were doing and i uh i couldn't hear you over the wind and he said he could he didn't realize that george had a lot of this in his head. And he said, I was in way over my head. The pressure on both of us was overwhelming at times. What she needed was a better, perhaps a more experienced partner in me. And that was something that can't be faked. I'd like to think now that I'm older and uglier, I could rise to that occasion. And maybe we'll see that in a future Mad Max movie, Mason. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:13:00 A complaint of this I've also seen, Mason. Go on. I wouldn't even say it's a complaint. Maybe it's a complaint, though. Okay. is that this isn't a Mad Max story. But I think that with the exception of the first one, or even elements of that, none of them are really Mad Max's story. There's a thing happening, and then Mad Max shows up and goes, what's this?
Starting point is 00:13:19 I don't want to be involved. Wait a minute, now I'm involved. Oh, no, I'm in a chase and a fight. He's just passing through. I think that's a fundamental building block of a lot of, I would say a lot of TV shows. Man With No Name. No, Man With No Name,
Starting point is 00:13:31 the incredible Hulk TV series with Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno, Kung Fu, all those series. It's about- Quantum Leap. Quantum Leap. Sliders. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Sequest DSV. Sequest DSV. Probably not that one. Earth 2. Earth 2, yeah. Probably not that one. Earth 2. Earth 2, yeah. Probably not that one either. No, probably not that one either. Cleopatra 2525.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Probably not that one either. Probably not that one, honestly. Probably not that one. Farscape. Maybe we're back on track. Yeah. But, yeah, it's a staple of that. He's just passing through.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I love that. He's the point of view character. He's the one bloke. Yeah, well, he's learning about this particular society as we are. Yeah. He does actually kill more than Furiosa, though. He kills 34 people and she kills 32. So, you know, not very feminist of this movie, is it?
Starting point is 00:14:17 Still a man's world after all, I guess. Except for all those men who are dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of them got crushed under cars, but the cars fell out of them, didn't they? It sure did. Yeah. I get the sense, though, and I think this is true, that this mostly didn't change from when Mel Gibson was on board.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Because Max in this, let's say he's about Tom Hardy's age, 40 at max, let's say, but realistically a bit younger. It feels like he is a relic from a bygone era. Like he should be 60. Yeah, right. Whereas the people that he runs into that remember the old world and all of that, they're like withered old crones. Exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And all of that. And he's just like, I'm 32. Yeah. And I remember the 70s. You'd go down the milk bar for a Big M. Yeah. But all these people are like, we're 70 years old and we remember the green place. Yeah, I remember the green place.
Starting point is 00:15:08 It was called Westerfolds Park. All right. That's so specific, Mason. So specific. Yeah. Also, you got to remember that these stories, they're campfire stories. Yeah. Somebody telling the legend of Mad Max and maybe he was 60 and this is just how the story
Starting point is 00:15:26 has been passed down. Exactly. You want to make him sexy. Yeah. And maybe he's made a mortal through radiation or something. Perfect. Yeah. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Will you rise with the sun to help change mental health care forever? Join the Sunrise Challenge to raise funds for CAMH, the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health,
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Starting point is 00:16:34 Yeah. All the other people who've been affected by radiation have become... Hideous ghouls. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, maybe you got the same radiation that affected the brides. Oh, yeah. Kept them young and beautiful.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Maybe it is. Side note, their names are, I don't know if you know this, their names in the movie are Toast, Capable, The Dag, Cheeto and Angerad. But I think if you wanted to make them authentically Australian, they should have been named Barbecue, Pizza, Cheese and Bacon, Savory and Chicken Crimpy. And no, I will not explain that. It will appear on the screen as if by magic.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I love that. I tell you what, screen as if by magic. I love that. I tell you what, though. One of the great villains. Yes. Hugh Keyes Byrne returning. RIP, by the way. But just the design. Incredibly gross.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Like the fake plastic muscles over his horrible bloated husk. His voice. There's obviously some Darth Vader in that with the breathing and all of that. And the interesting thing about that guy is there's a really kind of twisted way that he loves his family like he flips a car at one point to avoid running over one of his brides and i know that's also because she's pregnant and he's obsessed with like a legacy and children and all of that but just a very complex and awful human being. He's already got a bunch of cool children. Yeah, what are you doing, man?
Starting point is 00:17:47 He's got a bunch of cool cats. He's got a big guy. He's got a little guy. Yep. Angus Sampson is there. Angus Sampson's there. I don't think he's one of your kids, but he's there. He's in it.
Starting point is 00:17:53 He's in there. He's the guy that says, flame-grilled whopper, I think. Is he? Maybe. You might be thinking of Samuel Johnson. I am thinking of Samuel Johnson. And yeah, so I just love all of that. He was, of course, going to be Martian Manhunter at one point
Starting point is 00:18:05 when George Miller was going to do Justice League. And Megan Gale, who's in this, is going to be Wonder Woman. Oh, I also like the fact that in Morton Joe's mask, he can open the jaw. Like horse teeth in it? Yeah, but he can open the jaw like a gape when he's sad. Remember? When his bride dies, he's like, no.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I'll just set this to sad. Now, of course, as mentioned, this is one long chase. And director George Miller, he told cinematographer John Seal to keep the main actor centred in the screen so the viewers didn't have to search around to find kind of what was happening. And I was wondering, like, why does this flow so much? And it is, it's because of that.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And the editor of this, Margaret Sixel, who's actually George Miller's wife. How'd she get that job? She applied. There was a process, Mason. It's the man's world, Margaret Sixel, who's actually George Miller's wife. How'd she get that job? She applied. There was a process, Mason. It's the man's world. You know that. But George Miller said the reason he gave it to her.
Starting point is 00:18:52 It was fair, Mason. What if the quote is here? Yes, she's my wife. I don't think that's fine. I just rolled over in bed. I said, you want to edit Mad Max? I've never done any editing before, but I'll do it now. Well, she hadn't edited an action movie,
Starting point is 00:19:07 but he said because of a guy that would look like every other action movie. This also won an Academy Award among many things for editing. So there you go. But I think this is an easy edit if it's all in centre of frame. Anybody could edit this movie, I think, in my opinion. Could you have done it? Well, you didn't, though, did you? What were you doing in 2015?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Hanging out at the Bell Street Maccas, I bet. I was on the other side of the bed. He just happened to turn to his wife. Okay, right. I'm like, fine, I didn't want to do it anyway. Yeah. I like also how this movie peppers in moments of happiness. Mad Max gets his jacket back.
Starting point is 00:19:36 He gets his car back briefly, and then he's like, oh, got crashed again. Not the same car from the other movies, by the way. He rebuilds it in the video game in between, which is sort of linked to this and sort of not or whatever. Yeah, I like all of that. It's like, here's a bag of seeds. Oh, a bunch of people got run over, including Megan Gale.
Starting point is 00:19:51 That's sad, actually. Was it worth it in a way? Yeah, in a way, yeah. And the stunt work in this, my goodness. And I love this. Guy Norris, who we talked about when we covered the Road Warrior, he did that stunt where he hits the buggy and then he flips multiple times and bent the pin in his leg from a previous injury. who we talked about when we covered the Road Warrior. He did that stunt where he hits the buggy and then he flips multiple times
Starting point is 00:20:05 and bent the pin in his leg from a previous injury. He came back for this, and apparently it's the last stunt that he ever did. He got to roll Mad Max's car at the start of the film. It's got a little explosive jack in the bottom that comes out and rolls the car. I love that. It's such a great car crash as well. It's really good i love the metronome guys bouncing back and forth there was a moment and i've seen this movie like a bunch
Starting point is 00:20:30 but i hadn't seen in a few years where you see mad max swing past and then this just enormous explosion goes off behind him and i just went jesus christ like fucking unreal i just it's just an amazing achievement. I like it. Just to have a man in front of an explosion. Yeah, no, it's not just that, Mason. No, that's how you describe it. That's pretty average to me.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Now, look, people might want to know about the specifics of the cars and all of that, and I've just written here, I can't, I won't. I'm not a cars guy, but there is a great YouTube channel. It's called Mad Max Bible, where it covers so many things Mad Max related, including timelines and different storylines and cancelled stuff and whatever. He's got a great video on Cars.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Among other things, if people want to check that out, I would recommend it. Did you know about the alternate ending of this, Mason? I know that you don't. Lucky I'm ready. Maybe I do. Hang on. Max. My name's Matthew Max. Max goes to the shops. There's no shops, Mason.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Oh, okay. Well, maybe there is a shop. It's just not here. I don't think there's a shop here. Does Max die? No. Oh. The first idea was that he would go up on the platform with Furiosa
Starting point is 00:21:43 and he'd found a new home and they changed that and I'm glad that they did because I think it works better as just like well I'm off yeah that's who he is you know he's he's not he doesn't really stay in one place and when he does something terrible happens often and why not go somewhere new and something terrible happen somewhere else you know I'm gonna go because maybe out there somewhere is my wife. Max, no. No, I think she's in the next town. I think the last time I saw her she said she'd be in the next town over. Max.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Good luck, Max. Off you trot. Off you trot. You know what it's time for? What's it time for? Mad trivia. Trivia, trivia. Love that.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Here we go. Dana Grant, the stunt double for Charlize Theron, and Dane Grant, the stunt double for Tom Hardy. What? They met and fell in love on this movie. And in March of 2013, they got married. So despite the animosity on set between the two leads, two stunt performers, they'd be kissing and getting married. Do you have the information there?
Starting point is 00:22:39 Were their surnames both Grant before they got married? I don't believe so, but I don't know. Okay. Yeah, I did look into that. I was hoping you wouldn't ask. All right. Yeah. Let's just assume they're the Grant-Grants now.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Awesome. The girl that Mac sees in his vision, commonly believed to be his daughter, is in fact Glory the Child, who can be seen in the comic series. There's a bunch of prequel comics leading up. So I remember seeing this and being like, oh, this must be a different guy
Starting point is 00:23:01 because he didn't have a daughter. He had a son and all of that. Yeah, yeah. I guess I just assumed it was like a metaphor for all the people he couldn't save. Yeah, sure, yeah. Like an amalgam of all the kids and all the... I don't want a metaphor. I want a montage of all the people he didn't save.
Starting point is 00:23:14 She should have been wearing a name badge. I will remember you. He just pauses for 40 seconds at a time as that just rolls in his brain. When 78-year-old Melissa Jaffa, who played Vuvalini, was asked why she took part in this film, she said, when the role came along, I thought, well, I want to get another chance like this before I die, and that's why I took it.
Starting point is 00:23:39 It was absolutely wonderful. She's one of the women with the seeds, and she's done the bikes. Apparently, also, she did all her own stunts. I mean, as if you wouldn't. 78 and they're like, do you want to do this? Yeah, of course. Because if you die, like, who cares at this point? You're 78, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:23:51 It's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's totally fine. You'd go down and you'd be in the IMDB trivia, wouldn't you? Yeah. This lady was exploded. And all her seeds went up like popcorn. And it's fine.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. When Max is tied to the front of Nux's car, there is a skull with a pilot's cap on it and goggles above him. And it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. When Max is tied to the front of Nux's car, there is a skull with a pilot's cap on it and goggles above him. That's the guy. It's one of the gyro pilot cop guys. It's one of the Bruce Spencers.
Starting point is 00:24:16 It's one of the Bruce Spencers. Probably the first one. And we've got to mention the Doof Warrior. That's Iota. Yeah, it is. That's the Australian singer-songwriter. Correct. There's a bunch of origin kind of elements to this character.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And it's a mix because often on these movies, George Miller will do an extensive backstory and then the actor will come up with their own thing. But the basic story is that he was blind since birth and he was rescued by a Morton Joe who made him a mask from the dried skin of his murdered mother. Oh. And that's like an homage to her, apparently. I would have just told him he was beautiful the way he was.
Starting point is 00:24:46 But I'm built different, I guess. You don't know you're beautiful. That's right. That's exactly right. He's not beautiful, though. He's fucking, he's hideous. That's a shame. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I guess he would have figured that out eventually. Yeah. Even after I lied to him a bunch of times. Just people going, ah, ah, wah. Now, look, this has been, I feel, sparse with local references. You know, we could always use more, so here's one for you. Australian showbiz legend Bert Newton was one of the first character actors cast when it was filming in Broken Hill.
Starting point is 00:25:12 When it moved to Namibia, though, he dropped out to play Franklin D. Roosevelt in the Australian stage revival of Annie. So there you go. That's terrific. Big old Bert Moonface Newton was going to be in this. Okay. And hopefully the only Newton. Okay. Was he going to be in this. Okay. And hopefully the only Newton. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Was he going to be the guy with the metal nose? Yeah, maybe. That's John Howard. Yeah. But not the John Howard that we hate, the other John Howard. That's right. From Sea Change and other things. I can just interject here.
Starting point is 00:25:37 In case people are wondering, if you had a bit of a rewatch, they're saying fang it. F-A-N-G it, which is an Australian slang for make the car go more faster. That's right. In case you think they were saying a slur, they're not sayingang it f-a-n-g it which is an Australian slang for make the car go more faster that's right in case you think they were saying it slow push down on the thing there's a bunch of language in this where it's like I didn't really catch that I should watch this with subtitles
Starting point is 00:25:55 but you don't need to this was designed to watch as a silent film and then also to be in black and white at one point black and chrome edition anybody apparently that's something George Miller wanted to do initially he was like let's do it in black and white and the studio. Black and chrome edition anybody? Apparently that's something George Miller wanted to do initially. He was like, let's do it in black and white. And the studio was like, we don't want that. Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:26:10 But the box office for this on a budget of about 185 million-ish. I mean, who knows? Because it also took like 20 years to make. So I don't really know. George Miller's time is very valuable. He's turning it over in his brain. Boy, is he, yeah. You've got to hire Burt Newton for a bit.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah. You know? That's right. Mr. Entertainment. Yep, yep. Mr. Moonface. Uh-huh, uh-huh. You know, he's not cheap.
Starting point is 00:26:31 No. Might have gotten Don Lane involved at some point. Might have got Don Lane involved. Might have got Steve Visard involved. Might have got Steve Visard. Might have gotten Peter Moon involved. He was always telling people, don't be a Wally with water. He was, wasn't he? He should have gotten into Morton Josier. don't be a Wally with water. He was, wasn't he? He should have gotten into
Starting point is 00:26:45 Morton Josie. He was being a Wally with water. They might have got the life be in it cartoon guy to be involved. Whatever his name was. The return on this though was $380 million which isn't huge. There has been some discussion about, did this movie even break even?
Starting point is 00:27:01 Almost certainly since then. And Warner Brothers moving forward with various spin-offs and potentially sequels, then yeah, that is probably the case. But I always just assumed this was made like nearly a billion dollars. Yeah, it feels like a big hit movie. Yeah. But it's somehow a cult classic. How did that happen?
Starting point is 00:27:19 Well, look, people have also been asking, where is Mad Max 5? Now, initially, this movie was going to shoot back to back with Furiosa. That was going to be a Charlize Theron led movie. That was obviously changed but there's been a few reasons why Mad Max 5 has been delayed and one of the reasons is in 2017 Miller filed a lawsuit against Warner Brothers suing the studio for seven million dollars in unpaid Fury Road earnings. He accused executives of behaving in a high-handed insulting or reprehensible manner and destroying their relationship with his production company warner brothers fired back that miller shouldn't be receiving those earnings
Starting point is 00:27:55 because they wanted to make a 100 minute pg-13 movie and he had delivered a 120 minute r-rated movie uh this was settled in 2019 so it's all been smoothed over. But ultimately the studio gets to decide, right? They could have, though he owns Mad Max. So maybe he's allowed to be like, no, this is R-rated and get stuffed, mate. Get stuffed. Yeah. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:17 I'm giving you the middle finger, but the Australian way. Not with the other knuckles up. That's weird. Americans do it like that. With your thumb out? What's the Australian way It's like that Just tight
Starting point is 00:28:27 It's just tight Just a tight fist It's high and tight But Americans do it like that Yeah Americans do it like that It's weird Maybe it's a regional thing
Starting point is 00:28:32 Maybe it's regional yeah I don't know It hurts to do it I like it Yeah The thing is Warner Brothers They actually have a genuinely popular property Here on their hands
Starting point is 00:28:40 And you'd hate for them To ruin this relationship But it's not like They've got a bunch of fucking morons heading out that company what are brothers no i don't think so anyway though tom hardy is contracted for more mad max movies the next one is supposed to be mad max the wasteland so we'll have to see i think he will return i'd like him to i like his kind of sputtering mumbling stumbling version of mad max though there is a part of me i think he should return. I like him too. I like his kind of sputtering, mumbling, stumbling version of Mad Max.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Though there is a part of me- I think he should have the Australian accent. That I agree with. They changed the actor in the video game. Do you remember? They released the trailer and he was American and everyone went, no. And they went, okay, fine. And they went back and re-recorded the entire thing.
Starting point is 00:29:19 I think he should be like, I just remembered I'm Australian. I've been doing this wrong. Or the narrator should say that. The narrator should be like, Max remembered he'm Australian. I've been doing this wrong. Or the narrator should say that. The narrator should be like, Max remembered he was Australian. So he talks like this now. We will not elaborate further. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:33 But I think also, and I don't think it's going to happen, like an old grizzled Mad Max movie could be kind of interesting. An old man Max? Old mad Max. Old man mad Matthew Max. That's right.
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Starting point is 00:29:59 But the good ones. I love that. In addition to that, we've got bonus movie commentaries. We've got video game Let's Plays. We do a comic book club. We're actually going to be looking at all the Mad Max games on there and the comics as well. So if you are interested, that will be up there over the next few weeks.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Love that. It's been very interesting diving into the world of Mad Max. Yes, hasn't it? And that's exclusively there, that stuff, if you do want to check it out. Stray's own Mad Max. Stray's own Mad Max. He's ours. Except when he isn't.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Because he's never technically been played by an Australian, really. The good ones are ours. Yeah. Which is all of them? I think so. Yeah, for the most part, I would say. Yeah, why not? Also, we have a podcast.
Starting point is 00:30:36 It's called The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. That comes out every Monday. Sunday at BigSandwich.co. Of course, we're going to have an episode on Mad Max Furiosa. Oh, I'm excited for that. Me too. Do you think it'll be good? Yep.
Starting point is 00:30:48 If it's half as good as Mad Max Fury Road, I'll be mad because that wouldn't be good enough. Not good enough. Just a movie that's okay, and I want that. I want a really good movie. What if it's as good as The Phantom Menace, which you seem to think is good? I've never said that. I've never said that. I've never said that. Prove it in a court of law.
Starting point is 00:31:09 All right, thanks, everybody. Grab that jam, you guys. Five alternate names for the brides. Here we go. The Big Pineapple, the Big Kangaroo, the Big Cane Toad, the Golden Gumboot, and the Big Bullock. What do you think about those? Those are terrific.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Thank you. And thank you to Ben and Lawrence for the edit. Thank you, Ben and Lawrence Those are terrific. Thank you. And thank you to Ben and Lawrence for the edit. Thank you, Ben and Lawrence. Mad Max. Mad Max. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.
Starting point is 00:31:41 One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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