The Weekly Planet - Men In Black: The Animated Series - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: June 11, 2019

A new Men in Black movie, Men In Black International, is coming up! A sequel to the original, Men In Black II and Men In Black III. BUT! Between one and two there was the oft forgotten but somewh...at of a hidden gem, Men In Black The Animated Series that ran 1997 to 2002. Enjoy?Video Version â–º https://youtu.be/qbZ6ATtdu48James' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetBuy Men In Black Series Amazon â–º https://amzn.to/2oIZ5tT Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:35 Visit heartandstroke.ca. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Nod your heads, everybody, because black suits coming. It's bloody Mission Impossible. What? Men in Black. It's Men in Black 4 International.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Are you going to keep any of this in? It's going to be as smooth as silk. People aren't even going to notice the transition from the rap I did at the top, yes, into the correct name of the movie franchise. You maintain black suits come and Nod Your Head is the superior Men in Black theme song. Yes, and some people say it's the pitbull rap from part three. Nobody says that.
Starting point is 00:01:14 But you think it's one, right? I kind of think it's one. The traditional and the best. I think that has the best film clip because it's got the dancing alien. Yeah, right. But I think it's because it was new and fresh and everyone got caught up
Starting point is 00:01:24 and they've forgotten about Men in black two nod your head by by men in black two the hyper died down yeah what what stood the test of time is the quality of the rap exactly okay all right is that what we're talking about now what are we doing it is sort of because we're going to be talking about the many black animated series that ran from 1997 to 2001 on kids warner brothers that's four seasons it went as long as batman beyond that's and people love batman beyond that's right but who talks about men in black the series not as not so much before we get stuck into this where do you stand on the men in black series the animated series or no no just as a kid well as a kid when did it come out 97 i was still a kid all right i was just still a kid you'll count it come out? 97. I was still a kid.
Starting point is 00:02:05 All right. I was just still a kid. You'll count that. Yeah, no, I really enjoyed it. I had the, I think there was a role-playing game. Okay. Of which I bought the source book but never played, obviously. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Do you ever just thumb through that every now and then? Yeah, just thumb through it for all the details. Look at all these creatures. Where is it, I wonder? I don't know. It could be Agent M, you said. Yeah. Agent M was going to be taken by Michael Jackson,son if you remember who met in black too wouldn't want
Starting point is 00:02:27 to be him that boo uh i had the i had a reprint of the original air cell malibu marble comic yeah three issue limited series which came out pre-movie yes yeah i wonder if the guy who created originally got rich you'd hope so yeah we can find that out okay we'll do it later yeah sequels though because i'm with you on the first one what i like about the first one is it's got a kind of ghostbusters weird creepy kooky kind of grimy underground new york vibe yeah and then from there it's not so much it becomes very glossy yeah and i like i like the fact especially in the in the first one that the car they drive is just like a some jalopyopy. It's an old jalopy that has been retrofitted
Starting point is 00:03:05 with like, you know, rocket boosters and stuff like that. Which is very kind of Ghostbusters as well, I guess. From onwards from then, it kind of becomes kind of toothless and... A little bit, very glossy. Yeah, very kind of samey. I think it could have benefited from better movies. Oh, absolutely, yeah. Bearing in mind we haven't seen Men in Black International
Starting point is 00:03:22 at this point, so we really don't know. But yeah, you did mention that it's based off the Malibu comics, and this animated series is set in a parallel reality to the movie universe wherein Agent K didn't retire because it follows Agent K and Agent J. And the other thing is in the episode The Star System, Syndrome, they're all called Syndrome, they've got Syndrome in the title, there's a line that says something like, we've got Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones to play us in the movie versions or whatever.
Starting point is 00:03:48 So the Men in Black movies exist in canon in the Men in Black animated series as movies. There you go. Kind of blows their cover, though, doesn't it? Just a little bit, yeah. Especially because a lot of the adventures and things that happen in this are paralleled very much so in that movie. And in real life. And in real life, exactly. What do you think of this series though oh well look i had fond memories of from back in the day but i didn't really like oh well i had a fond i had a fond
Starting point is 00:04:13 appreciation when you're a kid yeah when i'm back when i was a kid i had i had a fond vague remembrance of the series as a whole but i don't really remember any strong details and i was thinking just before we watch some of these bet these aren't going to be very good. They are kind of good. They're good. Fun to them, yeah. They're solid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:29 They're very dense as episodes because we watched four in a row. Yeah, we did the first four. Yeah. There's a lot to them. Like it's kind of – they're not designed to be watched four in a row. No, they're really not. And it's mostly, look, an alien comes down and is after a thing and they've got to stop it's mostly look an alien comes down and it's after a thing and they gotta stop from getting the thing and then they shoot it that mostly happens
Starting point is 00:04:50 yeah but they're very they're very stylish yes the animation here it's a bit it reminded me of remember aeon flux yeah or aeon flux however whatever people fucking pronounce it as you're right you're definitely right whatever you think but it's got that kind of- It's Aaron Flux. Thank you. It's about the adventures of Aaron. There's that kind of sloppiness to the animation, and it's a bit grimy, and the characters are kind of ugly and left of center, and I like that kind of look. It's not crisp and clean and all straight lines.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah, right. Oftentimes the backgrounds sort of fade to gray as the action takes place in the foreground. It's kind of a surreal, grim universe for a kid's cartoon. Maybe that's why it disappeared off the radar.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Also, I don't think it ever got a DVD release. No, people are still waiting on that. Also, I just want to clarify, I was talking about Eon Flux, the live-action movie,
Starting point is 00:05:37 just if people were wondering. Remember that? Where Aaron was played by Charlize Theron. It was very confusing. Is that true? That's why I didn't get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:44 But yeah, the series, there's a lot of stuff they carry over from the movies, like transforming car, Jay being thrown around by like a big arm. You get it. Happens most episodes. Happens most episodes. There's aliens hiding inside other aliens
Starting point is 00:05:56 and so on and so forth. Well, exactly. We get the tiny little grey aliens walking around in kind of humanoid robotic exoskeletons kind of thing. We get a return of Tony Shalhoub. Yes. As Jeebs, who in the first movie, at least, is the pawn shop owner who keeps getting his
Starting point is 00:06:11 head shot off. Yeah. He only hangs around for like the first few episodes and they recast him. But yeah, that actually is Tony Shalhoub. Monk himself. Monk himself. Aaron Monk. He probably went on to do Monk and so he had to leave.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Or Galaxy Quest, which might might have Was that 99? It's a good movie Yeah They're always talking About a sequel But Alan Rickman died It's not happening Also isn't Tim Allen
Starting point is 00:06:31 Crazy now or something? I don't know I haven't been Keeping tabs on him Let's assume That everybody Who took part In Galaxy Quest
Starting point is 00:06:38 Is dead Or has gone crazy Okay You're speaking of aliens Or doesn't do sequels Sigourney Weaver Yeah well there you go Except when she does do sequels Occasionally she does There's even an episode You're speaking of aliens inside... Or doesn't do sequels, Sigourney Weaver. Yeah, well, there you go. Except when she does do sequels.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Occasionally she does. There's even an episode, you're talking about aliens inside of aliens. There's the alien inside of a man's head, like a robot, and then that alien opens up and there's an even tinier alien inside that one. There are some surprises in this animation which kind of went, oh, that's a bit clever. Like the very first opening scene of the first episode, there's a cat in the tree and they're like,
Starting point is 00:07:05 well, we've got to retrieve that alien from up there. And you think it's the cat. And the cat's a normal cat and the tree's an alien. It's like things like that. I'm like, okay, that's a little bit fun. I see what you're doing there. This was done by Adelaide Productions. You familiar with them?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Not at all. Okay, here we go. Here's some things that you may or may not remember. They did the Jumanji animated series. Huh, didn't say it. Extreme Ghostbusters. Now I remember Extreme Ghostbusters. There you go.
Starting point is 00:07:30 We talked about this recently, Godzilla the series. The series, yeah. So these were both created by Richard Reynos, who is a long-time Simpsons producer. He's produced something like 600 episodes of The Simpsons. Thanks a lot. Some of the good ones, all right? Some of the good ones, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Some of the good ones. Max Steel. Fan of that? Nope. all right? Some of the good ones, yeah. Some of the good ones. Max Steel. Fan of that? Nope. Barely remember that. Jackie Chan Adventures. Oh, yeah. I remember Jackie Chan Adventures.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I'd imagine you'd lose some of the pizzazz of Jackie Chan when you take the physicality completely out of it and make him animated. No, what they do is they got Jackie Chan in a studio. They broke both his arms. They got him to do some jumps and such, and then they animated over the top. So if he couldn couldn't leap that dragon they wouldn't put it in rotoscopes yeah they rotoscoped okay fair enough uh the boondocks which is incredibly popular uh and
Starting point is 00:08:14 spider-man the new animated series which one of those early 3d it was not really it was like 2009 3d shows which back when i was a kid back when you were a kid yeah the people kind of fondly ish remember but they haven't made anything new since like 2009 though technically they're they still exist like the men in black oh do you think they're do you think they're secretly doing animation for the underground they're protecting the earth from bad animation every couple of every six months they produce a new series and go this is bad bad. Humanity's not ready for this. Absolutely. Now, we didn't get up to this episode, but we're talking about returning actors. And there's another returning actor, Vinnie D'Onofrio.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Oh, my goodness. He played Edgar the Bug in The First Man in Black, a cockroach inside of a human skin. But he done exploded at the end of the first one. He did done explode. He did. You're absolutely right. Even though this is a parallel universe, but even in this universe, he also exploded. Somebody must have seen it and written a script. That what must have happened so somebody how do you guess that
Starting point is 00:09:08 so somebody somebody shadowed the the real men in black yeah for the entirety of the events of the first movie and then wrote a movie exactly what happened wow oh yeah but he he returns as edgar's brother all right so there you go and apparently he voices like another character or a king or something like that. Cool. We only did four. What do you want? We only did four.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Come on. We didn't watch 53. So episode four introduces Agent A or Alpha. And this is where things kind of started to get interesting for me. Because this is like, he's one of the original men in black. The founders. The founders, but he's gone bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:42 That's a fun little twist. Well, because I was reading up on this and he pops up a number of times throughout the season and there's a two there's a two-part finale is is him and them finally defeating alpha and he's got all the augmentations of various other aliens and he's also played by uh bloody billy billy zane's bodyguard in from titanic or the scientists from ninja turtles 2 secret of the use whatever you want to whatever you want to call him david warner is this the kind of thing that you would go back to and go i want to see what else i want to i want to know the point when tony shalhoub leaves the series i kind of enjoy the fact that this is a this is more than a this is this is a show with continuity to it
Starting point is 00:10:17 yeah i mean it's kind of monster of the week ish but for a kid's cartoon having any more than that is actually kind of amazing yeah absolutely so i. So I think I probably would, yeah. The alpha bit got me going, okay, well, that's interesting because you learn a little bit more about the Tommy Lee Jones' character's backstory. Because they kind of lean away from that a lot in the first few episodes, like learning more about that when he's not just some robot sitting next to, you know, the Will Smith character the whole time. You know, I found that a bit more interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah, but yeah, I think it's got some really interesting design. Some aliens are just like big slug monsters or whatever you know like the ones in the first episode that are coming after agent j they're just kind of big generic slug monsters but then in episode i think it's three or two there's an alien bounty hunter and it's got the the backwards legs and it's running about and that one i quite like and they expand on characters which hadn't been done at this point, like the pug. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:11:06 Oh, yeah, Frank the Pug. Frank the Pug. And, you know, the aliens that drink coffee. The coffee aliens. The worms, I think they're called. But they smoke cigarettes, don't they, in the movies? Yeah, they do, yeah. They edit out that element of it.
Starting point is 00:11:18 In this, they do heroin. Yeah. But there's also new elements which I quite liked, like the quick clones, where you can do like a five-minute clone of yourself. Yeah, right. That has your memories, I assume, and things like that. But yeah, look, I don't know whether I'm going to rush back
Starting point is 00:11:32 to watch any of this ever, but I wasn't. I'd seen a little bit of it at the time and I really enjoyed it because it kind of played on and off for maybe three weeks in Australia. Yeah, right. But it's not terrible. Probably on Cheese TV. Probably on Cheese TV. But yeah, I didn't think it was terrible by any stretch.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And at 53 episodes, Mason, it's a bloody breeze. You could cruise through it. You could knock it off in a long weekend. That's right, yeah. This will make you happy. In 2002, the series actually won a Daytime Emmy for Outstanding Sound Editing. So it's not without its rewards and compensations.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I noticed that. It had a rich timber to it. Yeah, sure. As I was watching it through a tinny ipad speaker i'm like very nice very nice yeah also i i like the the closing credits it's like they've got the men in black instrumental they got that at the top and then it's it's not like all their adventures and jumping about and shooting all their different guns it's just a series of mug shots of aliens which i enjoy quite a lot some of whom are going to jail for crimes they didn't commit there's a lot of that though isn't there they don't really touch on some aliens are good it's mostly like they're mostly bad or pawn shop dealers that like deal in nuclear weapons and shit
Starting point is 00:12:40 like that yeah they kind of step aside from the immigration kind of allegory which the movies are known for which some of the movies are known for, which some of the movies are known for, which at least one of the movies is known for. Yeah, it's mostly just like, if you come to Earth, you're going to do crime. Why else would you do crime? And we'll shoot you.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Yeah, I think maybe there's some sort of alien tourist board out in the galaxy that's like, hey, you want to do some crimes? Come to Earth. It's great for crimes. They might shoot you, but they probably won't. They probably won't. There's only a couple of them. They're very small. Yeah, that's right. They're very small and fragile.. It's great for crimes. They might shoot you, but they probably won't. There's only a couple of them.
Starting point is 00:13:05 They're very small. Yeah, that's right. They're very small and fragile. Just come back and do crimes. They can't have any more agents than letters in the alphabet, so there can't be that many, are there? Absolutely. And they've only got 26.
Starting point is 00:13:16 It's very embarrassing for Earth people. Exactly, because there's no agent M1 or M2. That we know about. Yeah, that we know about. That means you and Michael Jackson both could we know about. Yeah, that we know about. Yeah. That means you and Michael Jackson both could have been agents if they didn't want to. Yeah. So, look, all in all, I think it's okay.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I think it's fun. Yeah. It's fun. It's got that nice continuing mythology that I enjoyed. Yeah. I think the interaction between Jay and Kay in this is good. Yeah, they mostly got that, right? They obviously didn't get Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones. What?
Starting point is 00:13:45 That's correct. But they got them for the movies in the show. I know. They got them to voice them for the movie in the show, but they didn't get them for the actual show. I'm sorry to disappoint you so close to the end of this video. But I think the actors that played him did good. How did this win an Emmy?
Starting point is 00:13:57 Sound editing. The rich timber. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's fine. I thought their interactions were good. And we got You know I got Character designs were fun Yeah
Starting point is 00:14:07 We got the bloody It was a bloody Ripper of a time Fantastico Anyway this has been Caravan of Garbage We actually do this every week And also
Starting point is 00:14:15 We don't speak about Men in Black the series every week No we switch it up What's the hot movie We're loosely tying the thing Sometimes so loosely You wouldn't even believe it That's right
Starting point is 00:14:23 We did that Fucking Frank Sinatra movie once. Oh, let's do another. There's one more of those. I think we should do another one of those. I'm very excited to do it. I hate those movies, though. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:14:32 They really hurt. But there's also videos here every Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday. Also, we have a podcast called The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. Upcoming is, of course, an episode for Men in Black International, but we recently did one on Dark Phoenix.
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