The Weekly Planet - Mission: Impossible (but it's the 80's) - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: July 10, 2018

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Sometimes you think it's going to be real bad and then you watch it and you're like, this is all right. I wouldn't mind it. I'll watch another episode of this. And that's what we're looking at today. It's a real shame. Mission Impossible 1988 tv revival series you would think that's a recipe for disaster i thought it was going to be some a-team bullshit yeah like just kind of naff and nobody gets hurt nothing happens and it's just and everybody's an idiot yeah but they

save the day nevertheless this is a tight show man man. I mean, it wasn't bad. Yeah. I mean, it was the 80s, so there's a lot of big shoulders. A lot of big hair. There's a lot of that. Yeah. It should also be noted that this is a continuation of the 1960s series. It is.

So it's... Went on hiatus for 15 or so years. Yeah. So it's Peter Graves as Jim Phelps. Yes. He's coming out of retirement. He has to. For one more mission.

That's right. Did somebody kill his wife or something? I'll tell you, Mason. Okay. Okay, first of all, here's the pros of this episode. It's somehow good. Yep. Cons, there's no masks.

There's zero masks. No Mission Impossible masks. Yeah. And no one goes rogue, which are the only things I want to see in a Mission Impossible series and or film. Now, you want to see the main protagonist get critically injured, don't you? That's right.

Like the actor portraying the main character. I do also want to see that. And sure, maybe Peter Graves was brutally injured in this, but we never see it, so. It's entirely possible. What's the point? Also, this is not an action-packed series, particularly. This is very much, if you remember the kind of the ponderous, action-free parts of Mission Impossible 1. Yes.

That's this show. All the way through, presumably. Yeah. Every episode, just people walking down hallways. So it kicks off right. There's an assassin. He goes into a party. I think it's the guy from the pilot of Star Trek The Next Generation.

You think it is. Is it? That is John Delancey. Okay. Trek The Next Generation? You think it is. Is it? That is John DeLancey. Okay. He is of course Q, the all powerful Q in Star Trek The Next Generation from

the pilot encounter at Farpoint and many other episodes. I just wanted to see. He's a bloody delight and a recurring character. You know they say the Enterprise is an additional character in that show. So is Q. Oh wow. Would you say he's more important than the ship?

I mean, technically, because he can do anything. Is there a movie where that guy crashes into a planet and the crew just watch on solemnly and go, he was as important as the ship? No. Okay. Anyway, but in this he's an assassin. Yeah, so he goes to this party

and his idea is he's going to kill the head of IMF or one of the top dudes, the new Jim Phelps, who trained under Jim Phelps. And he does it by shooting a diamond from a pen into his neck. And then this guy thinks he's on fire and then he leaps out of a window in true Mission Impossible style

with a stunt of sorts. And I thought, oh, he must be leaping out to a pool or something because he's on fire. But no, he's just leaping to his death. What if he didn't leap out the window? What if he just thought he was on fire? Nothing would happen.

He wouldn't die. That's true, yeah. Like the poison would wear off. If literally anybody had restrained him, held him down, if he'd said, hey, I'm on fire and they just humid him

and dumped a bucket of water on him, he probably would be alive to this day. I mean, maybe not because it's 1988. Maybe he'd be dead anyway. That's exactly it. He was getting on in years, it seems. He certainly was. I mean, maybe not, because it's 1988. Maybe he'd be dead anyway. That's exactly it. He was getting on in years, it seems. He certainly was.

So anyway, Jim Phelps gets delivered a little briefcase. He's been retired for a long time, at the time it seems. He's out of the game. I'm sure he's done some car commercials in the early 80s. Maybe we can show some clips of that. But they've kind of updated the, this is your mission, kind of thing. It used to be like a record player, I believe, in the original series. It was cave paintings. It was cave paintings it was yeah and then what happened is you'd read the information on the cave paintings and then they would release a raptor into the cave and it would just oh they'd release

a woolly mammoth and it would just tear the cave to pieces so i'd rather at the very end it said this cave will be painted over in three two one then a guy just comes over comes in with a big brush get out of here right so he gets it he opens up his little briefcase he's got a thumb scanner first of all great tech in this series not bad it doesn't feel too aged considering when it's from and it feels mostly realistic yeah it does so he's got a little bloody mini disc player with a tiny little disc. See, that's the part that annoyed me. Why? Because it's a self-destructing box, right?

Why does he need to take the little disc out and put the little disc in? That's a good question. And then push the little player on the little disc. It's because it's a little disc. It's a little disc and it's cool. And they wanted to show off that it's a little disc. They wanted to show a little disc. And this would have been well before the year of mini discs, I assume.

Yeah, yeah. Good stuff. Were CDs prevalent in 1988? I think they had them, but they but they were very new technology yeah the laser discs of their day it would yeah you know it would have been one of those things where if you wanted a cd player it was 700 that's right and they were like well imagine if a city player was even smaller can you you can't even conceive of it can you that was in the year of cd players this will hold six songs that's right can you. Or a mission briefing. If you stepped near it, the laser would kind of go out of alignment and it would never work again.

You'd have to get a technician in. He would charge you $700. Correct. So we get a look at his new team. Now, there are recurring cast members from the original series, but there's none of that in this episode. You know what struck me most about these particular characters? They seem more like hobbyists than any kind of...

They weren't like, this guy's an ex-green beret and now he does this. It's like, this guy's a rock climber or something. This guy likes model trains, maybe. This guy's a drama teacher. But he also is in the IMF for some reason. Really? That is literally one. His name's Nicholas Black.

He teaches drama and he's also a master of disguise and changing his voice i'm fairly confident i don't know when this is coming out but we we also played the mission impossible video game that's coming up next week there's a character in that and his two powers are yes everybody gets two powers he can disguise himself as a bad guy and he's got a boomerang and i'm pretty sure that's this guy we see no boomerangs whatsoever in this episode not in the pilot episode no you don't you don't give everything away yeah but i guess he's been in subsequent episodes he's probably renowned for his boomerang throwing also he's australian maybe that's it maybe it is yeah uh cassie randall's the next one she's a top designer also she helped trap a terrorist group that killed her boyfriend so she's also a designer

slash in the imf yep and then there's max hart his brother was in vietnam and he never came home so he just went and got him all right that's pretty good that's impressive yeah oh sorry there's also grant collier who's barney's son from the original series and he's the greatest mind in mit for the last 20 years so a guy with actual legitimate abilities yeah right and a great cardigan that's right he's got two great things so this killer we find out his name is drake yeah like the duck not the rapper no all right like the duck mason okay all right like a male duck like a male duck the most terrifying normally it's like the condor or the eagle or the shrike the jackal like yeah he's a boy duck it's the boy duck so the boy duck right yeah i'm listening the

way that he murders his victims and this is why no one's ever been able to catch him because he decides at the very last minute what he's going to do so we're going to the room and just be like well i guess i'm just gonna slam this guy's head into a billiard table and then leave i mean the last time he did use a very elaborate diamond shooting pen so i mean there must be some forethoughts i guess like when does he choose in fact the method he uses in in this particular episode you need a lot of planning yeah maybe he's just got all that stuff on him like all the time maybe he's just got a whole lot of diamonds and they're all slightly different colored. And they just, they do a slightly different hallucination.

And that's this idea of random. Yeah, right. So in terms of the methods he's used before, the ones they mention are poison and a sniper rifle. That impossible to predict, just shoot a guy with a rifle. But hey, good on him. So anyway, they go to London because that's where his next target is going to be. It's going to be some random union guy. And you know what happens when you go to London?

Accents. Yay! Boy, do they. And he's there, Mason. Yes. So the idea is they want him to go to their hotel so that they're going to rig up so they can monitor him. But the thing about this guy is he always picks a hotel at complete random when he gets

there. Oh my God. So he'll look at a letter and be like, uh, S, okay? And he'll go to S in the phone. I want to go to the snake hotel. It's full of snakes. So what happens is... This guy's putting up

all kinds of roadblocks, isn't he? He really is. So they're ready waiting for him in the first cab. Yep. But he doesn't want to go

to the first cab. He goes to the second cab. Guess what? They're also waiting for him in the second cab. Brilliant. So they get in... What if he'd gone

to the third cab, though? What if he did go to the bloody third cab? That's what I'm talking about. So I can't remember the name of the hotel. So they get in there. What if he'd gone to the third cab, though? What if he did go to the bloody third cab? That's what I'm talking about. So I can't remember the name of the hotel that he mentions, but they go, yeah, no worries. I can take you there. So they take him kind of the long way,

and they put a whole lot of stuff to kind of block him from, you know, from getting there immediately. And the reason they do that is because the rest of the team are at the hotel, and they're changing all the signage. They're changing the street sign. They're etching pint glasses with like laser glass cutters. They're printing off menus and coasters. They're printing off menus and promotional magazines.

They're writing a magazine. They're like, hey, welcome to the Ruben, what is it, the Ruben Hotel? The Rubab Hotel. It's the Rubab Hotel. Sure. They're doing all of this stuff and I am genuinely impressed watching this.

Like the effort that they're going to. There's a couple of things where I feel like you could probably have done that earlier. You don't need to do that in the 15 minutes that he's going to arrive. And that is put a video behind a mirror and put a microphone under his desk. You could do that at any point. You could shave off precious minutes. That's exactly it. But I mean, they're not professional intelligence operatives.

They're a designer and a drama teacher and et cetera. Exactly. You know. What I also like about this series is whenever they show surveillance footage or footage from inside the mirror, it's not just footage they've already shot that they just put a grain over. You know, TV shows normally do that. It's specifically shot to be like,

oh no, this is footage specifically from this camera. You say that, but when we introduce the characters initially, when Phelps looks at the dossier, all the agents, they're just like stock footage people. The drama teacher's just approaching a group of students and then it's a close-up shot of him and he's like, hmm, are my students. That's a fair point.

Okay, you got me on one of them's flipping a sweater over their shoulder like so when he gets to the hotel uh jim phelps is on is on the bloody the desk because he's good on him it seems like this hotel was set up specifically for this as well yes it's a hotel but you know it's got like secret hidden rooms and that so i'm assuming this was like a British intelligence thing. It was probably a murder hotel. It was probably a murder hotel. Yeah, good on him.

So when he picked his own room at random, they're like, oh no, because we had room seven prepared for him. And what are we going to do? So they switched the numbers on the door. Very classy. Very cool. So they get him in the right room. You'd think he would notice. He seems like a man who's keen on the details.

You'd think it'd be weird that he'd go, okay, here I 10 11 7 no they switched the corridor oh what yeah they're way ahead of you mason they got two cabs they've got multiple signs they've got pint glasses he never sees they are well ahead of him hey mister you want a Ah, damn it. Could have saved a minute there. So he needs to make a phone call to find out what his next mission is, but he's not going to use the phone in the hotel. He's not an idiot mason. So he goes outside to a phone box, and you'd think that the IMF team wouldn't be ready for him,

but guess what? They fucking are. Yeah, that's right. They've got some sort of laser microphone situation going on. So they know exactly where he's going, so they find out what his mission is. And his plan is to meet a blonde woman with a white rose in the park. So what they do, they ring back. They pretend to be him.

And they decide to meet with the woman. And then they send the IMF agent to meet with him, pretending to be the person to give him the mission. It's actually very clever. It's very clever. The drama teacher plays Drake, doesn't he? Boy Duck, sorry. Yes, he does. Is that right?

And the fashion designer plays the lady with the white rose. So anyway, they swap the picture of the construction worker union guy with one of them. So he thinks that his target is actually the IMF agent. It's an elaborate misdirect, Mason. Do you see what I'm saying? I do. It's very complicated. But he also figures out when he meets up with the woman that it's a

different girl than the one on the phone. And you think the jig is up, but she's just like, yeah, so what if I am? Maybe we could meet up for a bloody date later. And he's like, I'd like that very much. Thank you very much. I'm smooth as silk. Okay. So the next step is they need to figure out how he's going to kill this union guy. So they've got their IMF plant waiting in the room to be murdered. But he's like, don't worry about it. I won't be murdered.

I mean, he's not, but it seems like... I mean, it's a very thin line, isn't it? That's it. So they're following Drake. He slips the tail somehow. He's a boy duck. He can do what he wants. He's amazing.

He's got that oily coating. That's it. He can dive underwater. So he gets into the hotel. They know he's going to strike in 15 minutes, but they don't know how or where. But he goes to the room underneath. He cuts a hole in the roof.

He sticks explosive putty under the IMF agent. They have no idea it's coming, Mason. And then he bails. Yeah, the explosive putty is made up from golf balls. Yeah. Again, he had to have some explosive golf balls on him. And I guess he got them through customs. I mean, it's the 80s.

It's the 80s. You can get anything through customs. That's it. You know? You can just be like, hey, can I take this gun on a plane? I'm going to need this gun later. For what? Just later?

Golf. Yeah, it's my golf gun. So basically, though, they see him leave the hotel, and they realize he must have set something up. And so they escape just in time. The room explodes. It's a bit of a stunt. Yeah.

I would have used a bellhop if I were them. Definitely. Yeah. But what I like about this is, though, they do set up stuff that never comes into play. Like, he doesn't go in the same... The pint glasses. The pint glass.

He never goes into the same room as the guy. It didn't matter what he looked like. That's true, yeah. So you're seeing things that don't end up ultimately paying off which is often weird in a heist movie where it's all like uh you know what and it well i guess to at some point it's sim it's simultaneously interesting and disappointing like even what you know when you watch a bond movie and he uses exactly the gadgets that are required and you're like when he got that avalanche-proof snow jacket. Yeah, right. And then he uses it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, he's got that gun that shoots a weird round that makes somebody inflate and become irresistible to crocodiles or whatever. You know? Oh, I remember. Lo and behold. But yeah, you're right. So anyway, Boy Duck gets back to his hotel room

and who'd be waiting for him, Mason? The IMF agent pretending to be the lady with the white rose. I'd imagine without the visuals, if you're listening to this it's probably very confusing but basically you know what a woman looks like you know what a rose looks like but what woman you know what i mean she's the imf agent and she pretends to try and kill him the idea being that then he'll go back and kill his boss yes because then they'll find out who scorpio is who's the mastermind of all of this did i mention that earlier never i can't remember but you know that's the ultimate plan though they need to find out who scorpio is here's the thing he didn't mention it but you know 50 50 if you're

watching some sort of espionage type show a movie odds are pretty good that the villain's called scorpio absolutely so he uh he kills her or he thinks he does, but it's an elaborate bloody misdirect. And he goes back to what I think is Los Angeles to kill Scorpio. Yeah, right. And then we're going to see the big reveal of who Scorpio is. And it turns out it's just some guy from the party at the start. Yeah. Who I didn't really remember.

Was it the guy from earlier? Was it the same guy? Yeah, it was the weird thin-lipped man who I thought was Jim Phelps initially. And I'm like, it's over, right? And the Scorpion, or the like all right and the scorpion or the scorpio has become the scorpion that's absolutely right he decides to use the same method to kill scorpio as he did uh the the asian at the start the old the what the agent at the start i thought you said yeah okay right did you think i said the asian yes i don't think he was steady on mates so i guess he must have bought two of those

diamond poisoned hallucinogen things. I guess, yeah. He probably bought them at like probably bought them at Aldi. Yeah, you probably can't just buy one. It's probably coming in a pack.

Yeah, it's in a pack of two. Yeah, yeah, totally right. Exactly. And that's the shipping that gets you. It is, it really is. It's like 40 bucks. So he gives him the poison

and the guy realising that he's going to die grabs his gun but boy duck has already taken the bullets out of the gun. He's one step ahead. He's the ultimate assassin. But that he's going to die grabs his gun but boy duck has already taken the bullets out of the gun he's one step ahead he's the ultimate assassin but what he's not ahead of is that guy just throwing a knife at him and hitting him in the stomach yeah so we don't see it but uh scorpio jumps out the window to his death also yeah good on him but drake boy duck he lives he's in the ambulance at the end and he sees all the IMF agents there who he saw in England.

They're laughing at back pattern. Yeah, he's like, you fucking pricks. You were one step ahead. And that's the end of this show. Wait, does he come back ever? I don't know. Should we have looked into it? Well, I started to watch another episode because I really enjoyed this.

Me too. I also started watching another episode. But then I realized, I think we both realized that all of these are exactly the same. I also started watching another episode. But then I realised, I think we both realised, that all of these are exactly the same. Every episode's exactly the same. It's always just tricking somebody and going in the wrong room.

Yeah, and there's a murder up top and then they get a mini disc player and then they assemble the team and then all the other things unfold. Hmm, who should I use on this particular impossible mission? The same guys as last time the only four people also in the credits i guess so hmm i guess i could use some fashion designing

and some drama teaching in on this mission yeah yeah great stuff all in all though i think just pick one episode and watch it yeah and you don't have to watch all of them but it's it's it's pretty good yeah i mean aside from all those all those problems we talked about yes aside from all those And watch it. Yeah, and you'll be pleasantly surprised. You don't have to watch all of them, but it's pretty good. Yeah. I mean, aside from all those problems we talked about. Yeah, aside from all those problems, yeah. But overall, I give this better than Mission Impossible 2. Oh, absolutely. But not as good as Mission Impossible 4.

That's a good, yeah, that's a good solid. So Mission Impossible 3, I guess. Yeah, it is. It gets a Mission Impossible 3 from me. It's Mission Impossible 3 by way of Mission Impossible 1. Okay, fair guess. Yeah, it is. It gets a Mission Impossible 3 from me. It's Mission Impossible 3 by way of Mission Impossible 1. Okay, fair point. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we do Caravan of Garbage here every week. We're playing a game next week related to Mission Impossible,

and it quite possibly is one of the dumbest things we've ever played. It's so weird and bad. I don't understand. Here's a little hint. It's set in Russia. I think maybe it was made in Russia as well. It may have been made in Russia. It's got that vibe about it.

Yeah. Unforgiving. Yeah. And nonsense. It's a real worker and parasite. Yeah, definitely. There's videos for Caravan of Garbage every Tuesday, but there's also other videos here every Sunday and Thursday.

Plus, we have a podcast called The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. And you can also find all of that at the great planetbroadcasting.com. It's collated, isn't it, Mason? If you want to toot your own horn, the great planetbroadcasting.com. It's collated, isn't it, Mason? If you want to toot your own horn, absolutely, planetbroadcasting.com. I don't run that site, Mason, but I will happily toot the horn of those who do. Goodbye. Grab that jam.

You guys, we'll see you next week. Fred Durst. I was going to say that. I was going to try and think of a Limp Bizkit reference. That's good. Just say Fred Durst. Fred Durst I was going to say I was going to try and think of a Limp Bizkit reference That's good Just say Fred Durst Fred Durst, yeah Wait, what's the other guy's name?

I don't know The guy with the face? Fred Durst's brother? No, Wes Borland He had a side project called Big Dumb Face Great Yeah Is it good?

No Shock Yeah This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean, if you want. It's up to you. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship

between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.