The Weekly Planet - Mission Impossible - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: September 17, 2020

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FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Guess what, everybody? What? We're doing a Mission Impossible trilogy. The first three...

Oh, my goodness. That's right. A cruiser-palooza? A mopoffer-palooza? Real name. Mm-hmm. Tom Cruise's brother is in one of these. I know.

The second one. But that's not this week. It's not this one. That's next week. Because we are, of course, talking about Mission Impossible from 1996. Oh my God. Ancient history. Absolutely. This franchise has been going for 24 years then.

And that's just these ones. Not the show that started it as well. It's been around forever. Since the Cretaceous era. That's it. Just dinosaurs pulling off... I don't know. You think it's a herbivore, but it's an omnivore. It's a around forever. Since the Cretaceous era. That's it. Just dinosaurs pulling off, I don't know. You think it's a herbivore, but it's an omnivore. What a twist.

Anyway, leave a like. Should we talk about how it got started? Please. Because, of course, we had the original series in the 60s. Yes. There was a revamp in the 80s, which we've actually looked at. We did a video on it. Which I learned this week was originally intended to just be like

episode-by-episode remakes of the original with a new cast. Great. Because it was cheaper and there was a writer's strike. Oh, okay. Then they recovered and it became fine. Okay, well, that makes sense. And I guess Cruise was a fan of the Mission Impossible TV shows. Because this is the first movie that he ever produced.

He was a big fan of it as a kid. He had massive creative control. He upped the budget. Originally, it was $40 million and he asked for $80 million and he got it because we're in the midst of a cruise, the start of a cruiser palooza. A moth of a loser. A moth of a loser, yes. But it's such a...

A moth of a spot of bother. But it's such a... It's old. And I don't mean that in a bad way. But I mean in the sense that the first Fast and Furious movie, it's so removed from what it is now. And charting the evolution over these three first movies in particular, it's fascinating.

And what's fascinating to me as well is that when I watched these movies at the cinema at the time, I was just like, a movie's a movie. You see it and you have a watched these movies at the cinema at the time i was just like oh movie you know movie a movie's a movie you see it and you're in you you know but you have a bit of fun at the cinema but as i've learned about and and seen more of the each filmmaker's work like apart from the mission impossible franchise i'm like like this one was directed by brian de palma yeah who is fascinating choice right but he was he's know, he's a filmmaker who's all about, like, voyeurism and, like, paranoia and weird camera angles. And as I watched, going back into this, knowing about that,

I'm like, boy, this is a really Brian De Palma kind of film. Oh, absolutely. Like, there's a whole bunch of scenes where, like, conversations are just, like, just bug-eyed paranoid people shouting at each other in one shot. People just dripping sweat, staring intensely at each other. Yeah, you're absolutely right. This is one of my favourites because of the reason that you mentioned in all of those things that you said.

This is the only one with really intense paranoia. And the other ones have shades of it because who's who? Who's Richard Roxburgh? It's Tom Cruise or whatever. But if I like six ever resettled into it and you're like, hey, you're probably a guy in a mask and you're probably a guy in a mask. Who cares at this point? But in this, like Ethan Hunt, Tom Cruise's character, he's kind of a rookie.

Yeah. You know, he's been through some missions, but he's still, people on this team are still amazed when you can put an earpiece in your ear and you can hear somebody else's conversations or you can wear a mask and you look exactly like somebody else. Do you want to talk about the masks? Yes. Because you've got your standard.

Somebody stop me. Very good. Thank else. Do you want to talk about the masks? Yes. Because you've got your standard... Somebody stop me. Very good. Thank you, thank you. Because some of it's just prosthetics, you know? He's a senator, but both of the actors are clearly Tom Cruise. It's very fortunate that a lot of people he doubles in the first half of this movie

are just people who look a lot like him, but wrinklier. Yeah, exactly. That's right, yeah. But then you've got, and the one in particular I'm referring to, the John Voight reveal. movie are just people who look a lot like him but wrinklier yeah exactly that's right yeah but then you've got and the one in particular i'm referring to the john voight reveal spoilers by the way we're doing you haven't seen this movie from 1996 go back and watch it it's free and a lot of streaming platforms so go nuts it's about a spy list gets stolen that's that's the mission impossible the knock list and tom cruise he's got framed and he's got to get it back there you go

you caught up but in But in the later movies, and they emphasize this more in the next one, you can move your face around in it. It fits to you perfectly. They're indistinguishable from any other real person. It alters your voice. But in this one, I like the idea that just put it on and sit real still.

Yeah, right. Don't move a muscle. Have very particular lighting. If you can sit in some shadows and look concerned, because that's how your face is going to look, concerned and a little bit kind of just non-reacting. Exactly. So you mentioned this before the show,

but the name of the guy who created the masks, Rob Botton. That's right, yes. Famous special effects artist who worked on The Thing and The Howling and other things that you told me just before the show. He was the very iconic Two Weeks Lady from Total Recall where a face opens up and a sandwich falls in it. That's amazing to me, that practical effect. Because now they wouldn't do it like that.

They'd use a different method. It is a different method. And it wouldn't look as good maybe. No. But I still think there's some digital trickery in that shot. I know that it's practical, practical elements, but when he does pull it off, it seems like there's a digital smear in that shot i know that it's practical practical elements but when he does pull it off it seems like there's a digital smear in it and i might be wrong but i couldn't find anything

definitive that proved that because i think at the time maybe and again you know tom cruise still a big star you know mission impossible and uh you know uh a concept that people are aware of but i don't think we're in the era where people are like, this is going to be iconic and this is going to be his defining franchise. So we'd better do a whole bunch of behind the scenes stuff. They're just like, yeah, it's a movie. We'll make the movie. Tom Cruise. He did Far and Away.

He did Days of Thunder. He did this. These are the three movies that he's done. Here's a picture of his filmography. Because people will be like, I can't believe you didn't mention his. They're all there. There's all of them. There's all of them. Pick your favourite

and shut your fucking mouth. We do know he's the movie executive in Tropic Thunder. We're aware of it. We know. Yeah, he did a little dance. That's right. So also,

I wanted to mention up top, but I'm mentioning it now because we're still up top. It doesn't matter. We're doing it. But I'm going to try and replicate something from each of these movies

every week, right? So this week, James, you're going to get your face impaled on an elevator shaft. Is that what you're going to do? That's what I'm going to do. Oh, my God. Yeah. Now, what I'm going to do, I'm going to try out the disc trick. Okay.

All right. Huge shout out to Silom Magic who told me how to make this happen. I'll save it to the end, though. Did I pull it off? Probably not. But come along for the ride, all right? You're going to give it a crack, though, aren't you? You better believe it Yeah, apparently a real trick

Apparently. I have my doubts, but again there's barely any behind the scenes footage of this I mean it certainly tricked Jean Reno, didn't it? Certainly did. Sneaky sneaky Jean Reno What do you think about the cast of this? I like it I think, as I understand it I think it upset some hardcore Mission Impossible fans at the time for a number of reasons

Including the people from the original series as well. Who were not asked to be in this. Well, some were. Like Peter Graves was asked to come back. As Jim Phelps. Yes, but he was like, I'm not evil. I'm an actor. He was upset that Jim Phelps' character was going to take an evil turn.

He was tired of saving the world but never getting any recognition for it so he decides to turn bad and take the money and run. Yeah. He was tired of sitting still for that mask and take the money and run. Yeah. And I think, I think he was tired of sitting still for that mask mold for Tom Cruise to wear. Exactly. I think people will probably also upset that this is a movie in which a lot

of the IM team did die in the first act because you know, traditionally everybody gets out alive in the mission impossible movies. I love that fake out. And there's some names in it as well. I mean, I know people are like Emilio Estevez. Where's he been? He's, he was movies. I love that fake out. And there's some names in it as well. I mean, I know people are like, Emilio Estevez, where's he been? He was huge.

He was a massive star. This is, yeah, you're like, well, of course he's going to live because he's, you know. Mighty Ducks. Mighty, Mighty Ducks. Here's a list of his films. He's a lovable character.

He had an incredible catchphrase that I'm going to attempt to bring back in future. Hustle lasagna. Don't get any on you. Loved it. Doesn't rhyme. It doesn't matter. Yeah, but I think that's a great introduction.

And look, I don't even remember the first time that I saw this movie, but it's still kind of shocking that that's the way that they open things up. So stunts as well are a big part of this movie, less so than the later ones. They're way more toned down than him throwing himself off. Everything. Everything. Everything and anything. A lot of the later movies are just him throwing himself off stuff

and then they just try and patch the movie together based on that. Pretty much, yeah. So a couple of the big stunts from this, though, is the water stunt, which kind of looks tame in comparison, but that's tons and tons of water. If you went down, it could kill you. Like the sheer force alone. One stuntman does cop it right in the face.

I don't know if you've ever re-watched that scene. I didn't see that, no. So is he there when the glass breaks? Yes. Beautiful stuff, yeah. But I guess the thing that this movie is known for and it's often parodied, probably in a Leslie Nielsen movie from the 90s. Yeah.

Probably at an MTV Movie Awards. No doubt. I'm talking about the 90s. Yeah, exactly. Probably an MTV Movie Awards. No doubt. I'm talking about the movie Spy Hard Mason, probably. It's probably that. But it's the heist where he's... The Langley heist, yeah. And what's interesting about that heist to me is most of it's just in that room.

I mean, we see them getting in and firetrucks and whatever, but it's pretty much him dangling from wires with coins in his shoes to keep the balance. That's what they did. And it's just much him dangling from wires with coins in his shoes to keep the balance. That's what they did. And it's just incredibly suspenseful. They've attempted to replicate it in future movies, which we will talk about. But there is something about the tension in this scene which just still works so well. It's the sweat.

I'm telling you. It's the signature De Palma sweat. Yeah, it is. It's the big boxy computer. As big as a house. That's right. That's got a chair that slides out from underneath it. It's the 230 megabyte diskette upon which the knock list is copied onto.

I have a note here. Yeah. There's a scene later on in the movie where they're all ensconced upon the train where the finale takes place. Yes. And they have to stop the bad guys before the data is transferred. What a foreign concept at the time. In the movie, it takes the transfer of data from Max, the crime lord, intelligence, espionage, arms dealer, et cetera, begins at, let's see, it begins at one hour and 32 minutes.

I love hard numbers. And the transfer is begins at 1 hour and 32 minutes. I love hard numbers. And the transfer is lost at 1 hour and 40 minutes. So 8 minutes. You could just ring somebody and read out the list. It would be quicker. But I'm like, imagine these days attempting to build a tense scene while 230 megabytes of data is transferred. You'd be like, it seems you're caught in my trap

and oh, it's been transferred, never mind. Don't even worry about it. That's great. Side note, just speaking of the Langley Heist scene, the face Tom Cruise makes when he's dropped from the ceiling and nearly hits the floor, it's just what a face. Just go back and watch it if you haven't. Is it an intensity?

Is it scared? What is it? It's every emotion all put together, yeah. Well, that's Tom Cruise, isn't it? Just every emotion. It's a little bit scared. It's a little bit tense. It's a little bit, I love this job.

You know what I mean? Hasta lasagna. That's right. And all that. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. And I know you could look at this heist scene. Yes. And I'm sure I've made these arguments before,

like why not have a camera in the room? Why not have a guard that's watching the entire time? What if the computer worked when there's nobody supposedly in the room? Exactly. If I was the guy who worked in that room, I would look up at the ceiling every goddamn day. As soon as I came in, I'd be like, look at this big tall ceiling I've got for some reason.

You'd look... FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. Down to the floor, up at the ceiling, because either way it's reflective, you'd see what's going on.

You're right. You could put a big heavy wooden door in front of the computer, whatever. But at the same time, whatever measures were put in place, you can write around that. So if there was a camera, he'd block the camera. If there was a guard, he'd swap him out or whatever. Yeah, but I mean the necessary elements of a heist sequence or a heist movie is you spell out the obstacles

and then the characters build big plans to counter the obstacles. And then stuff gets in the way, like a rat or a knife. Or a Frenchman. Frenchman. He had that knife the whole time. Sacre bleu. When do you think he gets his knives? They must be new because he can't hold onto them for shit.

Probably like Le Creuset, you know that place where you get the fancy kitchen accessories? Oh, right. They got one of those, do you remember those big, this won't stay in, do you remember those big Sabe watches that were in like

storefront windows that they'd open and close? Yes. Remember those? Fascinating stuff, Mason. I always wanted one. To what end? You can probably get one.

Let's look it up later. Kill a big man. Anyway, I love the train chase though and I feel like the train chase, though. And I feel like the train chase is one of those things they definitely would have done practical now. Because this was a skydiving machine tilted sideways to get the rushing air effect at Tom Cruise's request.

Because he was like, I've already done skydiving and this is what I'm going to do. And there's a bit of green screen screen blue screen jankiness to it yeah especially when uh voight and crews leap onto the helicopter struts and they're kind of totally yeah it's they're struggling through the helicopter in the tunnel and all that sort of stuff it's like well that's very obviously took place on a soundstage but you know it's a real jump you know what i mean it's just in front of a green screen or blue screen again i think it's blue screen but i found some images.

But I think it still works. And I think for the most part it holds up. And even though it is like a CGI helicopter bobbing and weaving, I still think it's great. I still think it's absolutely the bloody Kraken conclusion to the movie. And I love that Jon Voight gets mashed like the rotten potato that he is. Just crunch. I had a thought, actually.

Of the characters that died in this movie, who do you think is ripe for a return? Well, we know one of them is returning who didn't die. Kittredge? Yeah, Kittredge is coming back. He's coming back for a nice seven and eight. That's crazy, right? Right?

But I reckon bring back Estevez. Oh, yeah. He's got an eye patch. Or an enormous whistly hole through his entire head. Sure. But, you know. And, look, we just saw the back of John Voight disintegrate, so maybe the front half of him's still alive.

He's like 80 and insane, though, isn't he? What about Emmanuel Bert? Maybe she could come back. Sure, yeah, good choices all around. She got shot. Maybe she made a quick escape at the end. You're right. There's a few of them you could definitely bring back,

and maybe they will at some point. Hannah, the drunk on the stairs, that she could bring her her back these are wonderful choices that you've made i mean she blew up yeah but masks whatever masks yeah it was a hannah mask you're right i mean there's you know nobody's off limits at this point yeah absolutely i i think what this does right and i know that it's you know people who are fans the original series didn't love it at the time and it wasn't massively reviewed well it was, this is good enough. I think it's clearly stood the test of time over the decades that it's been around.

I think so, more than some of the others, one of the others, the next one. That's right. But I think it does get the core of the original show right. It just kills more people. Oh, for sure, yeah. You know? It does your mask and your gadgets and your misdirects

and your fake rooms and whatever. It does all of that. And I think, say what you will about this one or the subsequent ones, the next one, what I think these movies are good at is kind of like getting a director in and just showcasing what they're good at. Yes.

And going like, Tom Cruise, I think, has gone, I want to make some spy movies and here's some directors that I love. What's your best take on a spy movie? And I think all of them have sort of nailed that in their own way. I completely agree. Now look, I'd like to also wrap up each of these episodes that we're doing, talking about the evolution of Ethan Hunt's hair

in relation to the character itself. Okay, well before we do that, I would just like to talk about maybe something that I remembered from this movie, but the depth of it didn't hit me until I re-watched it. It's what people thought the internet was in 1996.

Because in this movie, the only thing I think that doesn't hold up, the stunts are still incredible and the tension, you know, you can feel, it's palpable tension you can feel in all these scenes but there is a scene in this movie where tom cruise ethan hunt needs to do some internet sleuthing and so he goes on usenet and was that a thing

yeah usenet's a thing okay but i it's it's at the point where the internet wasn't really available for everybody no not everybody had it in their homes, in their phones, in their tablets, in their cars, in their fridges. Somebody's friend's dad might have had a computer from work that had it. Right, exactly. And so basically, like Brian De Palma was basing what the internet was and what his friend's dad had at his work, because like, and it was just kind of like,

what do people think the internet, and you couldn't look it up on the of like what do people think the internet and you couldn't look it up on the internet what the internet was like right so it was just sort of some guesses so like at this point you think about the internet like why not a constantly repeating beep from your search engine when you when there's no results from it you know that wouldn't get annoying imagine in 2020 every time you got a new message or alert it was just a constantly repeating endless beep until you access every email. Just a

cacophony of beeps. I get 10 emails in a minute. At one point, Ethan guesses, like it's just a series of guesses, he guesses that the terrorist arms dealer espionage king slash queen, Max, might be found at

max.com. And I looked it up just to see what it would be. At max.com, you can discover the life-changing benefits of glutathione, the body's master antioxidant. Max's patent science and supplements support the natural production of glutathione and a healthier lifestyle. Seems like a poison thing that they're selling people. Who's to say?

Is that incorrect? But I've written all in caps, The Book of Job Discussion Group, where you go and in a variety of different languages, you can send messages to people about various chapters and verses of the Book of Job. And I've written here, sending a random message to a Max

who may or may not exist on a Bible discussion group might be the biggest, pardon the pun, Hail Mary long shot I've ever seen in a movie. So everything else in this movie holds up this ridiculous. But you've got to also remember the people using the internet

were five dads of friends of someone you knew from school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Max. That's true. You're sending out six, yeah. And Max. That's true. You're sending out six emails, aren't you? That's true. And the reason it's taking so long is because he's waiting for the data to transfer.

And Max is probably like, ooh, an email. I don't get a lot of those. This is exciting. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Yeah. Fascinating stuff. So let's talk about that. Let's go back to hair.

Hair is important. Okay. So I think you could chart the evolution of the ethan hunt character from his hair and in this particular movie he's only a few months into the imf field yes because he was an army recruit right that's how he spent his time i think that's why his hair is that way that's why he's locked into it yeah he's got a haircut that you can kind of set your watch by that's right like a traditional army guy and you watch that kind of disappear as the movies go on. Like he's very by the book, by the rules. He feels like he's hard done by and he's being betrayed, which he often is.

But also, he doesn't really seem to care that much about other people in this movie compared to what he does later. This is more of a self-serving, self-preservation Ethan Hunt than what we get later. Yeah, yeah. I mean, this movie, he just lets John Voight just tumble over the side of a bridge. He doesn't dive in after him. Did you notice? Future versions would absolutely

just leap in there, you know? He'd fly a helicopter down and pick him up with one muscular arm. That's right. But there's no real gunfights in this. There are two bullets fired in this entire movie, which is wild.

Crazy. He gets beat up by 60-year-old John Voight. Yes. And then, you know, in the more recent movies, it's him and Henry Cavill just beating the shit out of a bathroom. You know what I mean? Like, bare-fisted. And here he's getting, like, 58-year-old John Voight

is besting Tom Cruise. Right. You know? I just think it's fascinating that you watch all the tricks and things that he absorbs over the decades. You know what I mean? Yeah, right. So, look, I think the hair, and I know it's probably a bit of a long shot,

the hair of Tom Cruise tells a story in these movies. Yep. In particular in the next one. Yeah. And look, special shout out. Again, I'll give you a little time code. One hour and 39 minutes. Ethan Hunt on the top of the train gives us some wicked Beatlemania hair.

Just go back and watch it. You'll definitely appreciate it. Just a couple of little pieces of trivia, just from the opening sequence. Trivia, it's trivia. Our trivia segment, trivia. It's trivia. Thank you.

Based on the little info cards we get on each of the Mission Impossible, the IMF Force members, Ethan Hunt's UC alias, whatever that is, is Philippe Douchette he's the littlest douche I don't know what it means is that a little production

little production in joke there I don't know you might be right Tom Cruise maybe he was like this is a good joke on myself

maybe I've got a good sense of humour and something I'd forgotten his mother's name is Margaret Ethan Hunt. Oh, yeah, and we see the parents in this.

Yep. Where do they go in the remaining movies? They get arrested, and then they grew up on a farm or something. They live on a farm. Yeah. Great stuff. It is the best.

This holds up, man. It's a good movie. It absolutely does, yeah. Internet aside, but that's still a curiosity to me. I'm not turning off because of the internet. No, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just pretend he's looking through microfilm or something. It's fine. Yeah, it's fine. Don't even worry about it. Anyways, here's me trying to replicate that thing. Oh my god, you did it. I did. Second take. I can't believe you didn't do it, James, you loser. Alright, next week, of course, we are coming back for MI2. That's right.

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No, that's right. I mean, we are, but, you know, the content comes out at the time it should. That's right. Anyways, I'm at MrSundayMovies on Twitter. I'm at WikipediaBrown on Twitter. I hope everybody has a great Mission Impossible in life, surviving all the terrible things that are happening.

Me too. That's the real Mission Impossible, isn't it? Absolutely. And this movie. As I always say, Hustle lasagna. Don't get any on you, folks. The virus?

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FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.