The Weekly Planet - Ninja Turtles: Out Of The Shadows - Caravan of Garbage

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2014 turned out to be the biggest box office hit from the length of the franchise so naturally the green light was given to it's 2016 sequel. This time we get all the things kids loved from the 1987 series, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady, the Technodrome, Casey Jones and more! But it didn't land in the same way as the first. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage review!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome back, everybody, to Caravan of Garbage, where we're doing two Ninja Turtles movies, which came out not that long ago. Within recent memory, if you can imagine such a thing. I know all our memories have been destroyed by the last few years. Sure, sure, sure, yeah. So maybe these come out a decade ago? Well, this was 2016.

The year of Batman v Superman. Oh! Yeah, that's right. Well, if anything, it's going to obliterate your memory. It's that, isn't it? What else was there in the year 2016? Great point. Piper colour t-shirts, slapper bands.

Rogue One. Rogue One. All of those things. Leave a like if you could, because we are talking Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Out of the Shadows, which I believe would have been my favourite movie if I was eight years old. And at the time you were? I don't know, 48?

Yeah, okay. So less enthused about this one. Look, it's got a turtle van that shoots manhole covers and it swings nunchucks for like 14 seconds. Bebop and Rocksteady are in it. Kranger's in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A big weird hollow Technodrome is in it.

Where's all the rooms in the Technodrome, Mason? Well, you get tenants and they fill in the rooms themselves. Okay. They set up those Japanese apartment walls, like the thin ones. They put those in. Yep, yep, yep. Then you set it up how you like.

That's a great point. Don't put anything on the walls, though. No, no, no. You're not allowed to put up any posters or paintings or anything. I think it's definitely a better movie than the last one. Yeah, I had a lot of fun with this one. I still don't think it's great. I don't think the nostalgia elements of it are enough for me.

But there are some things in this that go beyond that. Like they build a relationship with the turtles and there's conflict between them and they have like the basic tenets of storytelling they manage to sneak them in their feelings and they want things that's right and they're less annoying they are less annoying they've been growing up a little bit of growing up yeah it's a year after the last they've had a year of growing up that's right yeah i feel like though i know the reason why they're all fighting i? Yeah, it's a year after the last. Oh, they've had a year of growing up. That's right, yeah. I feel like, though, I know the reason why they're all fighting. I don't think it's about wanting to be human or wanting to be accepted

or, you know, they're not working together as a team because they're all so different. I think it's because they're hungry all the time because they ordered a pizza in this to watch the basketball. One pizza between four giant freaks. Just four enormous furnaks. Just four enormous furnaces. Just four giant calorie furnaces. Yeah, one pizza

absolutely. And Mikey dropped one of his on the floor or whatever. He screwed up the big basketball game. That's right. That presumably real famous basketball player slipped over and he was like, ow, I fell on my bottom. That's right. God, embarrassing. But you're right. I mean, the central conflict isn't really we don't work together as a team

because this movie is just a series of scenes where they do work together as a team and then they slip up right at the end. And then Leonardo's like, we don't even work together as a team. Yeah. We're better being a team. We didn't fall out of that plane to catch on to the other plane and then fight a tank in a river well enough. Yeah, well, that's hard.

All right? Not a lot of people could do enough. Yeah, well, that's hard. All right? Not a lot of people could do that. Yeah, that's actually, you know, the fact that you got 98% of the way there is actually pretty impressive, you know? He's up, Leonardo, is what I'm saying. I agree. How do you feel about Shredder in this, bearing in mind that he immediately grew a head of hair and a beard?

And also, I don't know whether the fight at the end of the last movie, did that heal him? Because he's got less scars after he fell out of that fucking building than he did before he fell out of the building. That's a great point. Can we blame mutagen? Yeah, we can blame mutagen. I think so, yeah.

He probably fell in a face full of mutagen. He probably did. There's probably so much mutagen in the New York wastewater, you can just dunk your face and it's, you know. It's like spending an afternoon at Sephora. It might just be. I think they've also gone way too far the other way with Shredder. Do you think they did a Sephora?

Commercial? Ninja Turtles collaboration. Yeah, definitely. Are those the crystal, like, jewellery things? Yeah, man. Or am I thinking of Swarovski diamond stuff? You are thinking of that, yes. It's not diamond, it's glass?

Crystal? I don't know what it is. Regardless of what you just said then, you are correct, yes. I feel like, though, with Shredder, they over-designed him in the last movie and he's too big and weird and covered in spikes. And so now they've under-designed him? Yeah, he's in, like, a leather motorcycle suit and a helmet.

He doesn't even really fight anybody in this. There's not even a hint of purple to the suit, you know what I mean? Disappointing. Which is interesting because there are so many nods to the classic 1980s cartoon. Oh yeah, name one other than the several we've already talked about. Vern. Yeah, Vern, okay. Yeah, that's right.

That's a good one. Vern the Falcon. But yeah, but they didn't go, you know, give him a purple suit. I agree. I like that actor. I think that's a good use of the shredder. And I also appreciate that the Foot Clan here aren't just guys with guns. They're Snake Eyes guys.

Oh, yes, that's right. They're like a bunch of snake guys. That's absolutely right, yeah. Yeah. I mean, here's a question, though. Are they any better at fighting in this one than the last one? Well, there's those two that break out of the police district and they give them a bit of a runabout.

That's true, yeah. But against the Ninja Turtles, probably not. No, that's true. They'd be killed. And there's that guy that just Vern just slams into a shipping container, his head falls off or whatever. Yeah. So they're not great.

No. I don't know where he's recruiting these guys. No. Well, they're teenagers. Yeah, I guess. And they're probably also learning ninjutsu from the same book that Splinter learned ninjutsu from. And they don't have his dedication. No, quite frankly.

You're right. Yeah. So here's another addition, Mason, from the original stuff. Baxter Stockman as played by Tyler Perry. Now, I never knew this, but this movie actually tells us the difference between a nerd and a geek. Oh, I see. So, like... You've got to look like you've written it down and you're going to tell us what it is.

Maybe I have. Maybe I've just memorized this movie I barely remember. So, it's the difference between Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter or TED Talks and Comic Con. I fucking hate that. Just that we get geek culture. We know nerds. We understand there's differences. Also, isn't a geek like a bearded lady in a circus or whatever?

Is that the origin of the term geek? Is it? I think so. Like, just like, just weird freaks in a circus, you know what I mean? Okay. Well, then, yeah. Yeah. Then they're right, I guess.

Yeah, I don't know. I just, I hate that kind of stuff. But, you know, Baxter Stock. Then they're right, I guess. Yeah, I don't know. I hate that kind of stuff. But, you know, Baxter Stockman is a good inclusion, I guess. Tyler Perry just doing a weird performance. Yeah. Got a weird laugh. You know he's there because he wants to be there because he probably made so much money off his Medea character

that he's just doing weird stuff because he, you know. Tyler Perry might be a billionaire. He might be a billionaire. It's very possible. Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you a great addition. I love Bebop and Rocksteady in this. They have a great supportive friendship.

Yep. And it's hashtag friend goals as far as I'm concerned. I completely agree. They nail those characters completely. And they also make them formidable. Yes. Because in the original cartoon and in other versions, you know, not as much. One time they caved in Donatello's head with like a sledgehammer.

That happened or whatever. But their strength kind of gets them through in battles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, they can be stupid, but they love each other and they're having a good time. That's true. That's lovely. When they are mixed up in that, you know, that whole skydiving from a plane to another plane and then the plane crashes and then they're falling in a river or whatever.

While the turtles, they're like, we didn't do enough teamwork. They're like, bro, we nailed this. We nailed falling out of a plane. We nailed falling off the side of a waterfall or whatever. This is great. I completely agree. What a time we've had. What a time we've had.

But an addition I don't think they nailed here was Casey Jones. Oh, yes. It's just Stephen Amell. Sure is. I like Stephen Amell. I think he's terrific. He's a great arrow. He's a. It's just Stephen Amell. Sure is. And I like Stephen Amell. I think he's terrific. He's a great Arrow. He's a great another thing that he's in.

CW Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover. Yes, he is. Where he's the spectre. That's a great example. I think so. I feel like here he's too clean and he's also too old. So I feel like you either got to go older and grubbier. Oh, yeah.

Like Elias Koteas from the original movie. Or you go like a teen. Okay, yeah. And it's just a cop who's like, I'm going to be a detective. I want to be a detective. Dude, you're 38. Oh, you think that's too late? You could be a detective.

Wow. You're saying George Clooney got his first hit at about the same age and you're saying this guy couldn't become a detective at 38? No, no. I'm saying that's a very realistic goal and you don't have to sook about it. Oh, yeah, that's right. He's talking about it like, one day when I'm big. It's like, you are big.

You're a man. You're a big man. Have you seen yourself do those chin-ups in Arrow? Hardly anybody can do that. What I loved about this character is he's there when Shredder is broken out of prison, out of the prison motorcade by the Foot Clan, and then he's being interviewed by the police superintendent played by Laura Linney, and she's like, okay, so you were saying there were ninjas on motorcycles?

He's like, yep. She's like, okay, go on. And he's like, and then there was a garbage truck. And she's like, excuse me, a garbage truck in New York City was somehow there at the time. You're right. He wasn't even like, and it had nunchucks. And there were big mutant turtles in it.

He just says there was a garbage truck. She's like, I think we're going to put your detective exam on a whole young man, little boy. And what's crazy about that is like he gets taken off the payroll, which is like he did a bad job. He was the only one there who did anything everybody else like all the other men got blown up yeah are they taken off the payroll i think their families shouldn't get pensions mason wow yeah they didn't they

weren't doing their job the other guy in the car in the van did he die what happened to him that's a great question and how many of the people in this movie as like supporting actors or bystanders are Ninja Turtles creators? Yeah, great. Kevin Eastman is in this for a second. I think he's the pizza guy. He's the pizza guy.

It's interesting that like- Whenever you see a normal looking man, you're like, that's an artist or a creator. Hollywood is too entrenched in every supporting character being played by like the most beautiful, handsome person in the world with incredible abs. Just seeing this movie where there's just some people with a bit of a paunch or a bald spot,

I'm like, that guy must be a comic book writer. No human being in Hollywood would look like that. Who let this real-world person in this movie? Yuck! Ugh! Ugh! movie. Yuck! As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors.

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I don't know. You might be right. Or vice versa. Who knows? Yeah, it's not important. But it's pretty cool at the end when he's fighting bebop and rocksteady and he improvs a set of rollerblades and a hockey stick that's right but it's like dude you're casey jones you should have this stuff right like what is this

traditionally we'd have him on him have a big golf bag on his back you know but it's just a guy in a hoodie and a t-shirt and jeans like this come on it is fascinating that that was maybe one of my favorite parts where he just he was just looking through some rubble and he just found a just an l-shaped piece of metal that would work perfectly as a hockey stick i think that was great my favorite part was where he duct taped some wheels from a chair from a roller chair that's what it was the bottom of his shoes i thought he opened a box and there was just like a series of half roller blades in there we're gonna transport transport these half rollerblades we're going to get them into the city and connect them with the other half of the rollerblades absolutely well a big part of this though is getting pieces together

because they're collecting pieces of the teleportation device oh yes the plot that's right the plot is here everybody everybody wave there it is i said you're not waving oh hi the plot you're not really relevant but it's nice to see you it not waving. Oh, hi, the plot. You're not really relevant, but it's nice to see you. It's never relevant anymore. So one of the pieces is in a museum in a big alien rock with a big switch on the side that nobody has ever pressed. Nobody's thought to push the switch. Maybe it requires a certain finesse.

Okay. You know these museum creators, they're all just smashing on a thing. They're all just smashing on a button. You're like, settle down, museum creators. Right. You know? Give it a little. You're too bombastic.

That's right. Give it a little soft touch like that. Oh, it's opened up now. There's a scepter or something in there or whatever. Yeah, just listen for the soft, wet click. That's right. Of this glowing rock. Yeah.

I mean, Krang's in this. Yeah. And he's very Brad Garrett and he's very wet. Absolutely. Some real good wet CGI on this guy. Traditionally, when you think of Brad Garrett, you think of a very dry surface area,

don't you? But they've, they've, they've moistened him up. Maybe not the hair. Yeah, that's true. But yeah,

no, you're right. They've moistened him right up. You know, the wettest he's ever been. To the point of absurdity, I think. I feel like they had to make Krang massively oversized just in himself because the turtles are so big.

Yes. Because he's normally like the size of like an ice cream container. Absolutely. That's right. For taking him to school as part of show and tell. Yeah, brought a Krang. Yeah, he's pretty cool. Well, he's pretty cool well he's not cool he's pretty rude but he is from demented x you brought you brought him last week boo bring something else boo bring one of his rock generals general thrag but that's fun i guess you

know and yeah i kind of i. I guess I wish the robot suit he is in was, like, more fleshy for whatever. Yeah, okay. You know. More like the cartoon. I wish that he had more interactions with Shredder, because some of my favourite stuff in that original cartoon is just them bumbling about. Yeah, I kind

of liked their dynamic in this. Yeah. That Shredder's being teleported away, he assumes, to safety, and then he's just on Krang's ship, and Krang's like, and Shredder's like, and Krang's like, I'm touching you, I'm going to lick you. What do you think? You'll be as wet as I am.

Don't, stop, no. And that could have developed into something. That could have been the whole movie. Could have been the entire movie. Let's get drive-through. You know, just them doing stuff, just having a day together. But, yeah, it could have developed into something, but then Shredder just gets frozen and put in a trophy case or whatever.

Yep, that's right. I guess with the assumption there'd be a Ninja Turtles 3 in this and they'd be back as a team probably. You're right, and we will talk about that, Mason. Let's also talk about acceptance. Okay. Because the turtles, they're trying to accept themselves and have everybody else accept them.

Be more like Bebop and Rocksteady. Exactly. Be like, I'm fat and I'm gross and I love this. That's right. It's cool. So there's a moment where all the police pull their guns on them. They're like, freeze. And the turtle's like, oh no.

Have you forgotten your bulletproof? Just turn around. You don't have to turn around. Yeah, you might be bulletproof on the front as well. No, they are. Oh, they are. They definitely are, yeah. All right.

That's absolutely fine. But I'll tell you this. There was a moment when I felt a genuine emotion in this movie. Whoa. And that's never happened to me before ever. Are you sure it wasn't a farce building up? Because you'd been sitting for too long. Are you sure it wasn't a fart building up?

Because you'd been sitting for too long. So there's a moment where they're like, oh, look at these monsters, look at these freaks, and you see Michelangelo, and he's just really sad. And I'm like, that's really impressive. And initially you thought, oh, maybe he's got a fart building up. But then you realised it was because he actually was sad. Yeah, that's right.

He also may have had a fart building up. Might have. realise it was because he actually was sad. Yeah, that's right. He also may have had a fart building up. He might have. You can have two emotions at once. Yeah, but like the design of that and the eyes and just the look on his face. The texturing of the turtles is way better in this.

The colouring's better as well. They've brightened them up just a little bit. There's less kibble. There's still probably too much kibble. There's still kibbling. But yeah.

And I think also you get more emotion out of them in this. And I realise what I don't like out of them in this and I realize what I don't like about Splinter in this okay he's got black eyes oh it's just like no I can't read his emotions and he's a big rat he's a big so like I don't want to skip that away from me yeah weird long fleshy tail see I think they absolutely minimized it in this movie I think they were like people are not responding well to the big wet rat. So they want a big wet brain.

He's not in it much, is he, the wet rat? But yeah. Man, I tell you what, though. Braver this movie to have an ending where a portal opens in the sky above New York a mere four years after the Avengers did it. Absolutely. And it's blue.

And it's blue. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know I think also you end it with the turtles up in a really high place above New York

fighting a bad guy in a mech suit it's like I recall this because it happened in the previous movie yeah maybe it could have

come up from the earth the technodrome's often in the earth sometimes it's in the earth it comes up and it goes I've got a big eye on me. That's right.

It'd come up and like all the, you know, displace all the pizza places. They'd be like, hey, trying to make a living here. Forget about it. You know? Should we do some Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles out of the trivia shadows? Yes. Should we do it now? Oh, let's do it now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Should we wave? At the trivia? Yeah. Our trivia's here all the time. Yeah, you're right. I think you take trivia for granted, Mason. Oh, yes. It's now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Should we wave? At the trivia? Yeah. Our trivia's here all the time. Yeah, you're right. I think you take trivia for granted, Mason. Oh, yes.

It's not always going to be here. It's always going to be here. One week I might forget. Okay. But not this week. No. So Alan Richson, who we talked about last week, who voices and is the body and mocap of Raphael,

and we got into how it was a very unhappy experience making the first movie. He had to come back and do this one because he was bound to the contract. I see. So that's good. So again paid very little. Awful conditions. Great. But at least he didn't have to do a third one. That's true but I reckon he did a bang up job. He did. You wouldn't listen to those line readings and go

this guy didn't want to be here. Yeah. I completely agree. He absolutely didn't. And how's about this Pete Plozek he provided now the motion capture and voice for Leonardo after Johnny Knoxville wasn't asked to return for unknown reasons. I think he's a really good Leonardo in this. I agree. I think that voice suits the character better.

And I don't know whether it is the pairing of the mocap with the voice, but this to me feels more like a leader Leonardo than the previous one. They probably didn't ask Johnny Knoxville back because he read the script and he's like, oh, so I get to jump out of a plane onto another plane and then I crash the plane and then I send it down the side of a waterfall. Let's go. And they're like, no, Johnny. Johnny.

Johnny, please no. Jonathan. Jonathan Knoxville, if you wouldn't mind. The producer tried to get cameo roles from TMNT 1990 actors, including Elias Koteas, who was of course a former Casey Jones, and Sam Rockwell as a Foot Clan member. Oh yeah, that's right, because he's one of the teens. A very young Sam Rockwell, however both of them declined to appear. Sam Rockwell would be a good Baxter Stockman. Great.

Whatever. Yeah, too late. Yeah, they made it already. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what about this? When Krang puts Shredder's frozen body in the lower levels of the Technodrome, on his left and right are frozen alien beings from the TMNT saga. We've got a triceratops-like alien known as a triceraton,

and also a neutrino on the other side. And you recognise some of those, maybe. I do recognise at least one of those. Do you recognise the idea that this studio wanted to make a third movie? Do you recognise that? I would be willing to recognise that. In a court of law, yes. Great, good, good.

Which this is? Yes, it is. These are all in a court. We record all these in a court of law. Correct. We've got to get them right. By law. That's right.

So all of the actors in these movies, the Turtles, Megan Fox, Will Arnett, all of that, they were signed off for three movies. Okay. And Tyler Perry even said in an interview that he would probably turn into a fly during that third movie. Nice. Presumably within the movie.

Okay, not just as a trick to entertain the cast and crew behind the scenes. That's right. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it, guys. Oh, wait, it was just a fart. But the box office for this, on budget of 135 million dollars which i think you know this gets a lot of bang for its buck you know it came away with 245.6 million okay which is a massive decrease on the previous one yeah yeah and that i mean that sounds like more but when you factor in marketing costs as we do

broke even maybe maybe i. Yeah, maybe. If probably not, though. So producer Andrew Form, he spoke to Collider at the time, and he said, We were obviously surprised at the box office results. In a bad way, though, Mason. We loved the movie. We loved making the movie.

From our first Super Bowl teaser to everything we launched, we felt so good about our material, and for some reason they did not find the audience that the first movie found and we talked about it at the time and we tried to figure it out but we cannot put our finger on what happened we really can't was this just the wrong time look it's not great also it wasn't received super well again it's better than the first one was this just an era where like marvel and dc dominating? Do you think that was a factor? But I mean, it also just might be, you know, we have fond memories of the cartoon and this has lots of nods to that. Yeah.

But little kids don't. No. And that would be the primary audience for this, right? That's true. Like, oh, there's a big brain guy. Yuck. Yeah, yuck. Oh, there's a weird rat with black eyes.

Yuck. I hated that last time, and I was afraid. I had nightmares. I don't like this. Yeah? Yeah, I mean, this feels, you know, I had fun with this one, but I feel like a lot of it is nostalgia bait for people who aren't seeing these kind of movies anymore, really.

Yeah. You're not wrong. Wow. Yeah. But you know what? What? One of my favourite Ninja Turtles movies is the best one from 1990. Oh, yes. Do you know, listen to this. Okay my favourite Ninja Turtles movies is the best one from 1990. Oh, yes.

Do you know? Listen to this. You might know this. I might. That me and you have done a movie commentary on top of that movie. That's right. And that is available at BigSandwich.co, where we've got dozens of movie commentaries up there.

That's right. Plus, these videos go up there early every week, don't they, Mason? Yes, they do, and I love that. And here's a hint towards next week's episode, by the way. My God, it's the cancelled Ninja Turtles 3. We made it. We had it. We spent $200 million on it.

And we were right to do it. That's right. And in addition to that, we've got video game Let's Plays. That's right. We played the Ninja Turtle Arcade on there. When I say on there, this is all the bigsandwich.co, which is like our private Patreon service, where all the things mentioned.

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You know? Yeah. That's fine. Like an absolute legend. An absolute legend who's given us $9 of their money. I can't get it back. Or maybe you're interested in our podcast, The Weekly Planet,

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and we're also on TikTok. That's right. Can you imagine? What an era. I don't run it, but can't imagine it that's right all right thanks everyone grab that jam you guys we'll see you next week goodbye i thought i had a i've had a thought about another thought about casey jones how much of a as women our life stages come with unique risk factors like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause,

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We'll add it later. Tell me just as I'm about to put this out. Okay, great. I'll quickly put it in.