The Weekly Planet - Pacific Rim - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: July 9, 2020

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. We are back for Caravan of Garbage because we are talking 2020 apocalypse movies. Movies set in 2020 that weren't made in 2020. That are apocalypse movies. Exactly. But. But what?

A fun apocalypse. Yeah. Not the apocalypse we're currently living through. Like a fun one. One that, sure, you could cancel, hypothetically. But you might have a bit of a biffo leading up, you know? Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

But then a decision will be made to cancel the apocalypse. Now just want to say straight up i have i have an apology to make because in a previous one of these videos i think it was the reign of fire video you didn't leave a like oh i should rectify that as everybody is required to do like i should leave a like on this one as well you and everyone else but also in that video i think i i was mentioning ridiculous names in apocalypse movies and i refer to someone in this movie as Striker Pentecost. Yes. An obviously ridiculous name, but I need to apologise because that's not his name.

I misremembered it. His name is, in fact, the completely normal Stacker Pentecost. You idiot. I'm such an idiot, right? How are you on the name Raleigh Beckett? I hate it. Me too. They're all bad.

I mean, it's a real name, apparently. But it sounds like a made-up Australian name. Raleigh! Raleigh! The dog's at it again! The dog's at it again! What's it doing? Probably rooting something.

Yeah, absolutely. Probably barking at something in a tree. Can we talk? We should probably maybe talk about this off the back. Sure. Maybe the Australians in this movie. Yeah. Maybe the Australians in this movie. Yeah. There are Australians in this movie?

Evidently there are, yeah. There are two Australian, look, there are two Australian characters in this movie. Yes. The actors are, they're a Brit and an American. Yep. And they have what I would consider to be the worst Australian accents ever committed to film. Wow. But I have a theory about it.

What's that? So I would say you and I have like fairly typical Australian accents. Yeah. But I'm sure there's people out there who are like, no, no, no, no, no. I've heard Australians speak. I've met Australians and you all sound like Crocodile Dundee. Yeah, that's right. Guess what, people out there?

We tricked you. Because that's what we do. When Australians go overseas, the Australian accent, it gets bigger and broader and dumber. Yeah. Right? We turn on the Australian charm to either get you into bed or into one of our fabulous zoos.

Crikey. And what I think that, what's happened to these characters is that they have gone overseas to Hong Kong and they're like, here we go. Gonna go to the nightclubs, gonna put on a bit of true blue Aussie charm and I'm gonna reel in the ladies

and one of them goes out to the nightclub and he's like, g'day darling, what's a top sheila like you doing at a place like this? And she's like, you know there's a thousand-foot-tall monster outside and he's headbutting the city to pieces. And so he's had to just keep upping the ante until he's like, Struth, stow the crows, Margaret. Anyway, it's bad. Yeah, it's not great.

They sound like chimney sweeps. But that's not what this movie is about. No, it's really not what this movie is about because it's an international cast and crew doing a variety of accents, isn't it? That's right. I didn't love this when I first saw it. I was kind of a bit underwhelmed by it

because I was really looking forward to it considering who was involved and the ideas behind it. Yeah, Del Toro. That's right. Did you find it was an interesting choice for him to make? Yeah, well, having watched a bunch of behind-the-scenes stuff, he grew up with manga and anime and all these giant kind of kaiju movies and things like that.

Amazing as E was a very popular Japanese animation, which was also popular in Mexico, which is where he's from. Right, so there you go. Yeah. So revisiting it, I definitely liked it more. But I think a big part of this is the lead for me has an accent, an unplaceable American accent, which I find distracting. I think Charlie Hunnam is great.

Recently, The Gentleman, of course, Sons of Anarchy, a show that I haven't really seen. But he is good. But I think it falls down a bit in the lead department, this movie, unlike the sequel, which I do want to talk about, which I think has a stronger lead, mostly also because he keeps his original accent I see

yeah yeah look I love the world though yeah like I love what they've crafted but I mean what would make what would make him a more compelling lead

what is more stick fighting he had even more brothers that died excellent great yep more Raleigh and Yancey that's their names

nice we should also point out that that section of the film is set in 2020 and the rest of the film is set in 2025. So we're only going to discuss the initial action sequence with Raleigh and Yancey. That's it. But speaking of like design and things like that, I love like the weight of the Jaegers.

You know, there's, they take like a second to kind of respond because you've got to kind of drag the fist into battle. The second one, they're just kind of spinning madly, the second movie. Yeah, right.

But I enjoy the personality that they kind of work into the designs from the different cultures and they all do different things and things like that. Well, look, I agree with you that they all look great and they all do different things.

But I think if I was some sort of Jaeger technician in the future fighting a war against these bizarre aliens, I'd probably focus less on cool anime aesthetics and more on maybe a plasma gun that takes less than a full minute to charge. Sure. Because that's the only thing that works. Yeah, it seems to.

Is a big laser gun or some missiles. Or a sword that you have. Or a big sword that you have. So focus on those. Focus less on like big arms that can be easily torn off or legs or exposed heads. Just a big sphere. Just a big sphere that shoots plasma. I think if you've got like a giant redwood and sharpened it and just catapulted it through one of their heads

i think that would do it well they've got multiple brains so a trebuchet is what you're suggesting that's exactly what i'm saying i'm saying look if you get big enough ewoks you can probably sort this situation that's what they didn't didn't a philosopher say that once if you if you get a big enough ewok you can move the world you know and look again i i i enjoy you're not supposed to think about that. That's not the point. It's not like, well,

why didn't they do this? Cause of the fighting. You're not supposed to think about it, but we will just briefly. And then we'll get back to the fighting. Ultimately what they probably should have done is just cause when, cause they know when the kaiju are coming out of the earth, like they can time it to the minute. It seems.

So just put a big bomb down there. And when the kaiju come out and blow it up and then put another one there, you know, put a grate over the top. Yes. So just put a big bomb down there and when the kaiju come out and blow it up and then put another one there and wait, you know? Put a grate over the top just made of swords so they just slide out through it. You know what I mean? Yeah, like a slap chop.

Yeah, like a slap chop. I think how it should have ended, I think, did that exact thing in their video. Like, I try not to re-watch a bunch of stuff and reviews before these

because I'll just start retreading points that other people make. But yeah. But again, like speaking of the design, for the monsters, the kaiju, I like the personality of them. There's like a big crocodile one. There's a crab one. There's one that turns into like a bat with wings.

There's a knife head. Oh yeah, there's a knife head. They're running out of names, aren't they? Nope. They are. All right. But I also love the idea that the way they do. That's what happens in the war room.

They're like, we've got a new one out there. We're going to designate him Knifehead. Everybody's like, come on, Barry. We've got 40 minutes till it gets here. All right, Knifehead, all right. But they're also technically designed that you could fit a man inside them. Like the monster movies of old, which were just people in suits. I feel like every modern day monster movie

should have a moment in it where you've got the good guy robot running through the city and the monster charging at him as well. And the lightning is, and the rain is coming down. I think it should just cut to two dudes in rubber suits in a cardboard city

and just a flickering strobe light just for like two seconds yeah and then cuts back and then we pretend nobody's noticed it i would i would thoroughly enjoy that but you're right and i i believe during the press tour they did actually get people in like rubber knife head suits oh cool okay the the uh yeah like kind of kind of silly like super deformed models to that's awesome yeah because the way also the mechanics of the world they go out of their way to make it physically make sense there's a lot of like gears and cogs that you see shifting inside the robots obviously they're 3d models but they're designed in a way

that they can't the arm won't clip through its shoulder when it moves like it has to move mechanically the right way so what you're saying is we could 3d print these and make them ourselves that's right nice and get them to fight a big Ewok. I'll see you in the backyard. I've built that cardboard city. I'll get my brother Raleigh. He could help us. What do you think? You don't like him?

Oh, yeah. He's a drug. But it's not just the creature designs that they go into. The idea that they built these giant sets that they would, the piloting sets. First of all, and I didn't notice this until afterwards when I was watching some behind-the-scenes stuff, they're really exposed in there. It's not like a tight little cabin like an X-Wing

where you snug in there. You're in this big kind of janky room, which is rattling about and you're getting water, like tons of water poured over you. You're strapped into this giant mechanism and it could just bust through. And suddenly you're in this like giant rocking exposed room, which was apparently like four stories high and could drop 15 feet in an instant.

And that's how they filmed all of those sequences. Did they build it out of one of those rides at Dreamworld? That's right, yeah. Where they zip you up to the top and then drop you off. Yeah, not the one that flipped and killed a bunch of people. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.

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when Marco's in the street and it's shaking, like it was designed to when the creature's foot hit the ground, the whole set would shake. Oh, so that's practical, interesting. There's a lot of money in this movie I think is spent to great effect, including the voice of GLaDOS. Ellen MacLaine. That's right! Make Portal 3, you fucks!

Anyway, look, I also love the idea that they've got giant mechanical robots and you need minimal two people to pilot them, sometimes three. Yep. Because it's a left brain, right brain situation. If one person does it, it'll melt you down. It's a non-traditional number of mecha pilots.

Sure. Normally one or five. Right, okay. But it's not unheard of. Yeah, that's true. It does happen. But also I feel like you can just use the PlayStation control. Like, I feel like that would be enough.

You could wire one of those in, and yet you're programming the Arkham combat. You just go for it. You just hit dodge. They'd never hit you. That's right, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I still love the idea that they still have to physically be in it,

really make the effort to move. It would be very good for cardio. Yeah. You know what I do like character-wise in this movie? I like the little scientist team that are having a little fun adventure. So Charlie Day from Always Sunny and the other guy.

And the other guy who we know from things. He looks like Crispin Glover, but I don't think it is him. Yeah, he did things, isn't he? Vern Gorman, the other guy. But yeah, I like their little adventures. I think that's the most compelling plot in the movie.

And they're trying to, well, one of them's trying to drift with a kaiju to kind of figure out what's going on and then interact with Ron Perlman and all of that. I think that stuff is very interesting. I have a note here that says, one of Ron Perlman's shoes is bigger than Charlie Day's whole body.

And I'm right there with you, Charlie Day. How big is Ron Perlman really? He's a big man. But is he though? No, I don't think he's big. Because I've also heard he's not that big. But he's big. But how big is he?

He's Hollywood big. Yeah. He's bigger than everyone else in Hollywood. And they are not that big, except for The big. But how big is he? He's Hollywood big. Yeah. He's bigger than everyone else in Hollywood, and they are not that big, except for The Rock. And Liam Neeson. Yep. Well, apparently the idea behind Hollywood is, and our friend Hollywood Pete told us this,

to be a movie star, you need a tiny little skinny body and a giant head. He calls it the Clooney effect. Plays well on a big screen. Exactly. That's right. Because you can put lifts in your shoes, can't put lifts in your head. No, you certainly can't.

Have we talked about the plot of this movie at all? They come through a portal, and you've got to stop them with the big punch in the mouth. Oh, then we did. We covered it. I don't know if we said that specifically, but what this does have in common with another 2020 apocalypse movie we looked at, Reign of Fire,

it's touching on the environment in interesting ways. Pollution, ozone. We're practically terraforming the planet for them. Don't get political. Exactly. But for me though, this movie really peaks in that middle battle and the finale that's set underwater.

It doesn't quite match it, does it? That idea that they're fighting that creature which turns out to have wings and the reveal of the big floppy sword which becomes a big stiff sword. Is it a metaphor? Probably for dicks. But what I'm talking about is that whole sequence with the battleship. Yeah, Gypsy Danger picks up a battleship. Wielding it like a katana.

How does it stay together? It doesn't matter. It's not important. That was good stuff. There's a little moment where the mecha's hand goes through an entire building and tips an executive toy. That was a funny moment. I enjoyed it.

Well, that's practical. They built like a miniature to do that. Not the monster, the fist part is what I'm talking about. But that whole sequence is just phenomenal. That's what makes this movie for me. And just the neon city in the background and the rain that's coming off all the creatures and the robots. It's really something else.

And it has wings. You don't think it's got wings. It's got wings the robots. It's really something else. And it has wings. You don't think it's got wings. It's got wings, though. It's got wings, yeah. The finale, yeah, it's just kind of, it's just like, it's a bit Independence Day resurgence. I don't know, just a bit kind of, we've got to get into there, which might have happened in that movie.

I don't know, Independence Day resurgence. I can't remember. But it's a bit kind of, it's a bit drawn out. It's a bit overly dramatic in a way that's not that compelling for me. I don't know. How do you feel? There's loss and sacrifice, but you're like, oh no, strike a Pentecost, you idiot. You idiot, it's Stacker, I tricked you.

Exactly. I think there wasn't enough sacrifice in the previous two acts of the film. And they're like, well, we've got to put in some sacrifice. The Russians bloody bit it. Don't count. The Chinese bit it. Also don't count. One of the Australians bit they're like, well, we've got to put in some sacrifice. The Russians bloody bit it. Don't count. The Chinese bit it. Also don't count. One of the Australians bit it.

Definitely doesn't count. Australians. I bet he's from London and he lived here for a month. Not even. He did a Contiki tour. Yeah, that's exactly right. Son of a bitch.

Yeah, that's right. Got a Southern Cross tattoo. No, thank you. Ron Perlman comes back to no effect, of course, which I guess I do enjoy. He comes out as a big fish monster or whatever. You can't fault it as a movie for having big monsters fighting big robots. If that's what you want going into this,

then yeah, that's what you're getting. But I'd love to get specific, specific rim, if you don't mind, about the universe. We're not doing trivia this week. Are we doing specific rim? Specific rim. Specific Rim. Thank God, because we've gone months without doing a round of Specific Rim. So I'm glad we're bringing it in finally.

Because I want to talk about the specifics of the universe that they've built around this. James Dammit, we didn't do Specific Rim for Rain of Fire or Edge of Tomorrow. Oh, no. We can always redo the video. I guess we can, yeah. Enough requests.

So I'd like to talk about the sequel, which I feel, again again has the stronger lead in john boyega look i don't think it's a better movie but i do really enjoy that sequel as also a natural progression of the first one because it does have the little scientist subplot charlie day's gone mad from drifting with the kaiju yeah and i think that whole story element's really interesting of how the yeagers have um the kaiju brains in them and it's a whole new invasion plan and at the end they're like we're going to take the fight to you no you're not but you know independent state resurgence that's that's exactly it the weight of the jaegers

is gone in that movie and i feel like you could put that down to well maybe they're faster because it's been x number of years yeah right until the next one but i do think that movie is better than people give it credit for. It's also Stephen S. DeKnight who's worked, of course, on Daredevil. That's right. I think it's underrated as a sequel. It's amazing to me they made it

because the first one made money internationally which is how they got the opportunity to kind of flesh it out a bit. But yeah, the second one didn't land as well as the first one did. I'll be honest, James. I just had to wait until you finished saying all that to let you know that I don't remember the second one at all.

Okay. Like, not a single second of it. I did re-watch it for this. I see. And it's a brisk, fun time, I feel. Okay, then. Yeah. Okay, so there was also...

Forgetting Specific Rim. There's also an animated series announced in 2014 that would have taken place before the events of the first film, acting as a bridge between film number one and film number two. Specific Rim rim we're just winning all the time that's what it was called we're really good at fighting kaiju yes that's right it would focus on established background characters that would have appeared in the sequel that project ended up dead but there's also been a number of comics there's uprising aftermath

tales from the drift after mash after mash that's. Have you ever seen that show? No. I just can't. And then, of course, what is happening at the moment, there's a specific rim... There's a Pacific Rim Netflix series, an anime, which is the most expensive anime that Netflix have ever done, and it will follow a brother and sister twin team piloting an abandoned Jaeger across hostile territory in search of their parents.

Okay, well guys, you have one more chance to put in my rubber suit idea. And then you're dead to me. That's right. Just live action in the middle of an anime? Yes. I love it, yeah. Maybe just filmed in an alley, like a back alley somewhere. Yeah.

They run into some garbage cans. Why do you think, though, this never quite took off like commercially or even critically on the whole? Because it wasn't, it's not terribly received, but it was never like, this is like the thing. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I don't know. Because it's got all the elements, right? It does have all the elements. But yeah, I see, you've mentioned in this there are a lot of... Specific? Yeah, very specific rims.

Yeah. And you've mentioned that there, you know, there's a lot of uh specific yeah very specific rims yeah and you've mentioned that they're you know there's a lot of practical effects in this and a lot of real sets and a lot of real mechanisms and stuff like that but to me it never really felt that real okay it looks good yeah but it never felt i don't have that i don't feel it ever had that impact for me unlike say like a blade runner 2049 is that yeah maybe, maybe. I feel like it didn't, to me, it never really had like a real... A big rocket fist? Because it did have that. It did have that, but it didn't feel like a real rocket fist really hitting me in my

alien nuts, you know what I mean? Sure, yeah. It didn't feel, I wanted to feel like, what's the word I'm looking for? Tangible. Yeah. I wanted to feel visceral. Sure, okay. Like real and solid, and it never felt that solid to me.

You want people in suits. Yes. No, there's got to be a happy medium. Sure, yeah. One person in a suit fighting a robot, a real robot. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a man in one of those puffy suits that they use to train attack dogs,

and he's being attacked by a bunch of those Boston Dynamic robots. Machetes taped to their heads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. You could probably do that for less than $150 million too. Definitely. I'm sure the question that everybody wants answered is, what happened to Raleigh Beckett though?

He didn't appear in the sequel. That's true. I have your answers though. Oh, is this in the spinoff or the comics or something? No, this is from Stephen S. DeKnight, the director. This is what was going to happen with the character and where we might see Raleigh Beckett in the spinoff? Or the comics or something? No, this is from Stephen S. DeKnight, the director. This is what was going to happen with the character and where we might see Raleigh Beckett in the future. Nowhere, but regardless.

There was a version that we shot where what happened to him was explained and talked about. This is in the sequel. We tested it and people had more questions with it in than without, so we decided that we didn't want to lock ourselves into anything like, oh, he's dead or he's retired, which seemed a little cheap. We wanted to leave it open for a third installment of the movie in case we needed Charlie Hunnam back.

The only reason that Charlie Hunnam is not in the movie is because of scheduling problems. So he was off making a different movie. That's why he wasn't in the first place. So yeah, if they do make another one, I would love to see like bring back some of the original crew and make it happen again. I don't think we will see it, but there you go.

In summary, just shoot a big spike through one of their heads, though. Just a big spike. I have some miscellaneous notes here. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. This one just says, hey, the pilot's helmets are all full of pea soup.

Yes. Because that happens right at the start. Is that just in the, like, is there two pieces of glass and it's in between? It seems that way, yeah. Because otherwise it's just covered in pea soup, eh? You'd just probably drink the pea soup and you'd be sloshing about. You're fighting a kaiju and you're full of pea soup. You're like, oh, I'm sloshing.

You know what I mean? You'd be distracted. You'd be off your game. Sure. Yet another movie that explains what an EMP is. Yeah. Pretty good. What is it?

Oh, it's going to be like, Ben's going to put up like a... He's going to put in a really complicated one. Maybe a montage from every movie that's featured in the F.A. I don't know. He can do it. If anyone could do it. If anyone could do it. He could definitely do it.

I don't like the name of the Australian Jaeger. Look, I watched it really late at night and I made these notes really late at night. I think that's what this means because I've written a note that just says, Strike a Eureka, less than sign, crikey marrambina. And after that I've written a note that just says, Striker Eureka, less than sign, Crikey Murrumbina. And after that, I've written, is that anything? So who knows if you've got a better name. That's definitely something. Incredible.

Look, here's the thing about next week for Caravan of Garbage. We're currently in the middle of a 2020 pandemic. What? Non-monster related as of so far. But, you know, time will tell. Yeah, fingers crossed. 2020 isn't over yet it might never end it might clock over and it's like december 32nd what the hell so the thing is

movies are going to be pushed back it would say we're still unsure of the release dates of a number of blockbusters so we're going to throw it open to people here in the comments to what people want us to talk about next here Here's some ideas that we had. The first three Transformers movies. Some Alan Moore adaptations, including V for Vendetta set in 2020. People keep saying Demolition Man. What do you want to see? We could say it's set in 2020.

We could do a whole video where we review Demolition Man and we just say it's set in 2020 every couple of minutes and people get really mad at us. And we block every person who comments against us. Pick a movie that you like and we'll say it's set in

2020 and we'll just review it like that. We don't give a shit. We don't care. We don't care. But what we do care about is BigSandwich.co where no matter what the video is next week that's coming, you get it early there. It's a little bloody subscription thing that we've set up bonus podcast, ad free feed,

early videos. It's funny. It's got it all. It's always 2020 in there. Oh my God. Why would you say that? I'm just kidding. I'm doing the big cell Mason.

Sorry. You're right. 2020 will definitely end if you subscribe to big sandwich.co. Correct. So we leave, we leave us in your very capable YouTube comment hands. Terrible idea, but that's what we're doing. No, no, YouTube comments have

never let us down, James. They let me down constantly. Every third one is mean. Oh, I don't read them. So I actually have no basis of fact on that. Alright guys, we'll see you next week for whatever that is. Grab that gem you guys, we'll see you real soon. Raleigh Beckett, fucking get out of here. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting broadcasting network visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from

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