The Weekly Planet - Pokemon: The Worst Movie - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: May 9, 2019

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for those watching it. This is Caravanna Garbage where we look at a crap thing. Sometimes it's a good thing. Sometimes we're pleasantly surprised. I wasn't pleasantly surprised by this one, I tell you what. Were you unpleasantly the thing that you expected to happen and you didn't like it? I thought it was going to be bad and it was bad, so yes,

is the answer there, yes. I just want to quickly point out that people of a certain generation, even people in my generation. The greatest generation. The greatest generation. The diggers. Yes. Love this film.

Ben, who's editing this video together, he told me it was the first movie he's ever cried in. Wow. Yeah. Because it was bad. No, no. Because there's emotional moments in it. It hits emotional beats that resonate with people.

No, it doesn't. It's bad. It's a bad movie. It's a bad movie not only... It's a bad movie on its own. It's even a bad movie for a children's film specifically designed to sell merchandise. Okay, sure. I feel it even fails at that.

Right. Bearing that in mind... This is Pokemon the first movie. Absolutely it is. Also, first of all, Bald is Brass calling it the first movie. Absolutely it is. Also, first of all, bold as brass calling it the first movie. Well, it was too. They made a lot after this. They're still making them to this day

because this one was the highest opening day for a Warner Brothers animated film with $10 million or over $10 million. There was something called The Poker Flu where... Oh, people took days off work and stuff. Kids specifically took days off school to attend the Pokemon. Sorry, that was very presumptive of me to be like, grown adults took days off work and kids specifically took days off school to attend sorry that was that was very presumptive of me to be like grown adults took days off work i don't hate pokemon i think it's

a really novel concept i was a little bit older like maybe a couple years off when this came out so i was kind of like i've had enough star wars is my last thing well i also was yeah i was a few years out from this and so this is this is actually the first Pokemon thing I've ever seen. Really? I've never played a Pokemon game. Okay. They're good. I've never seen a cartoon.

Sure. I'm not against it. Yeah. But now I kind of am against it, if I'm honest with you. And was there a card game as well? There was a card game associated with it. Was it one of those ones where you swap cards and then if somebody beats you, they take your card or whatever?

You swap cards and if someone beats you... It's a lot of card swapping. I'm sure somebody will tell us in the comments below. Okay, good. Exactly how it works. Well, guess what? I don't want to know. I could look it up.

I choose not to. We live in the world of information where I can look up anything I choose to. And I don't want to know, so don't tell me. So the story of this, it's the combination... He did air quotes when he said story. I didn't. I'm pointing. Okay, well, I'm doing them around you so the story of this is it's obviously a continuation of the series

okay and it's about the clone of a um legendary pokemon called mu called who's called mu too and the build-up of this movie is like 10 to 15 minutes of this creature that's created and it's got psychic abilities and it can communicate by talking which is unusual for a Pokemon. Okay I have many questions about can I can I do I'm not the guy but okay let's go some of them can talk and some can't yes so like okay but first of all from what I can gather based on this movie Pokemon the series is a classic slobs versus snobs scenario right the slobs being ash and misty and their idiot friend yes side side note the sex pest the side note this dude's like they're like hey we can't open the pokemon center because the nurse has gone missing there's a picture of her

she's been gone for a month and the dude walks up to the picture and goes she's cute she's probably dead i mean it turns, she's not. Turns out she's not dead, but she could have been dead. And he's like, yeah, this woman who's been missing for a month. Yeah, I would. Anyway, so there's those three. They're the slobs, I take it. And the snobs, which I went on, because I've seen pictures of the characters.

But I'm like, the snobs are Team Rocket who are like, ooh. Yeah, there's a lot of that. No. Anyway, their Pokemon can talk. One of them can, yeah. And Mewtwo can talk. Yes. But the rest of them can only say their own names.

No, I remember because my brother was a fan of this because he's three years younger than me, and he told me specifically why that one can talk. It's a mutant? Sure. Magic. Yeah, it's a magic mutant. A genie's wish.

Yeah. But I have many questions. Okay, what else? First of all, so the premise is the Pokemons, you collect Pokemon. Yes, it's dogfighting, Mason. That's what I'm saying. It's dogfighting. So you just find a Pokemon out in the wild.

Yes. You take it from where it lives. You put it in a little ball and then you carry it around forever and then you train it to fight other Pokemon. Correct. And if you defeat them, you get their Pokemon? Yeah. Do the Pokemon have any say in this?

No. It's dogfighting, Mason. That's what I'm saying. All of this has been broken down by people much smarter than us for decades. Good. There was recently an Honest trailer. I haven't watched it because I didn't want to impact this particular video, but I'm sure they talk all about that and similar issues associated with this movie.

The message is so muddled in this as well yeah because we'll get to it i'm sure yeah we'll get to it okay so let's have more questions okay sorry keep going okay so so i guess you have a backpack full of pokemon right yeah or a belt a belt belt a pokemon or a fanny pack right but let's say you're not outside a fight in pokemon where do they live in the ball forever i guess you don't have a little thing in your apartment or whatever? Like a pen. Like a pen in your apartment. Like a chicken coop or a small cage?

Yeah. Because they're dangerous, I assume. Well, some are, yeah, sure. And how do you train them? Just hit them? You hit them, you earn their trust. Okay, good. You feed them, I assume.

All right. The idea is that when you get them, they're initially not very... There's not a good relationship and you have to build that. Yeah, because you've stolen them from where they live. Probably from their families. Ash and his Pikachu have a bloody, they have a bloody tumultuous electric relationship from the get-go. Well, one of them, he's got a pet and he doesn't put it in a Pokeball.

Pikachu. Yeah, yes. Okay, right. Because that one doesn't like it. The rest of them, he doesn't care. Okay, cool. All right. Oh, shoot.

Okay, let's answer some to none of my questions. Excellent. Carry on. Okay, so it opens, though, and there's this clone Pokemon busts out, and the scientists are like, we've created you because we want to create the ultimate Pokemon. Positive note, sick hair. Everybody's got great hair.

Agreed. That scientist, that main guy, he's just got like this quiff, like you wouldn't believe. He looks great. I wish I had that quiff. But the first set of scientists he kills, Mewtwo kills. He's like, I don't want any of this. And then a second team of scientists he kills me too kills he's like i don't want any of this right then a second like team of scientists or bureaucrats turn up and be like what if we

gave you a suit and you flew around and you were fucking awesome and you shot lasers and you fought for us and he's like i'd probably i'll do that for a bit and then he does and then they're like we're actually the boss of you this isn't't what you thought. This is not a partnership. And he's like, what the fuck? He gave me this suit and I'm shooting lasers. So he kills them. Yeah, nice. Why are they doing it twice?

Why are they repeating that storyline? I don't know. It's the same thing. It is the same thing. It's true. Don't tell him. Maybe the third time was the charm. But don't tell him you're doing that.

Well, then you bring in the third team and they're like, hey, Mewtwo, how about this time we bring you armour and you can be cool and shoot lasers, and we'll just see you on your way. See you, mate. Unbelievable. We're not your bosses in this instance. Anyway, then he's like, now I'll take over the world. Not only will I be the best Pokemon trainer, I'll also rule the world.

I want two things. They're not necessarily mutually exclusive, it out you can do both things yeah also you know what i had heard about this everything but it's one of those shows where everybody just screams everything yeah like so so if we can fast forward a little bit right they mutu invites somebody invites all the pokemon trainers to to the and they're like, compete in a tournament see who's the best Pokemon trainer and then they show up and there's a big reveal and he's like, I'm actually the best Pokemon trainer

and then one dude's like but you can't be the best you Pokemon can't be a Pokemon trainer ahhh settle down just settle down think about things. Just maybe they can.

Maybe they can. Calm down. He's talking and flying. He's probably better than you. Right. You weird dude. So anyway, sorry. Here's what I don't understand about Pokemon battling.

The first one they show in this, a random guy approaches them when they're sitting up a picnic table or whatever. And he's like, I'm looking for Ash. I've done some Pokemon battles. You're up for it. I've done some Pokemon battles. You're up for it. I've done it. Is Ash considered the best Pokemon trainer?

He's up there at this point. Okay, right. Because it's like X number of episodes into the episode season. But he doesn't have the best Pokemon? But he hits them the hardest.

I guess he hits them the hardest. He has some of the best Pokemon. They're motivated. But the thing is, they don't throw them out at the same time. It's not like you wait and see what the other person throws and then you throw one out.

Because I know that some, I don't know much, but I know that some can counteract others. Yes. Like different abilities means you pick one. So it should be rock, paper, scissors. Essentially, yes. One, two, three, same time. Yeah. Or someone throws one out and you go, oh, okay, there's that one.

I'll throw out this one. I can't think of two examples. Pikachu. Versus one that doesn't like lightning there we go yeah also can you try you have to train your pokemon can you train your pokemon to say box or stab another pokemon good question is that possible because none of them seem to like bite down on the jugular and rip rip out their throat i know it's a kid show i'm aware of that but i'm just saying if you're a terrible person yeah if you're a terrible person. Yeah. If you're a terrible person, could you do that?

I am and I would. Okay, good. Yeah, I wonder. Because, and also, they understand words. Yes. They understand English and complicated concepts. And the ones who can talk. Use your lasers.

And they do. And the ones who can talk can understand the other ones. Yeah, right. Man, I'm really looking forward to Detective Pikachu. I'm not going to lie. Me too. Because it can't be worse than this. Apparently it's very fun and good.

Anyway, like you said, they get a mysterious invite to a mysterious island. And they go there, and I guess you're supposed to be thinking, who is this mysterious character? This benefactor who's inviting us to this island. If they hadn't have put the prologue at the beginning about the tortured, cloned Pokemon who can talk and fly. Yeah. It would have had me thinking, what is this?

Yeah. So maybe when they got- Oh, it's Derek. Hey, Derek. What are you? Is this you? I'm the best Pokemon trainer now. It's me, Derek.

Whatever. You're the best Pokemon trainer. I'm the best Pokemon trainer. Settle down. Derek's talking. But you're right. It's not some rando. Yeah.

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Okay, so there was a number of episodes. Some people get to things late, is all I'm saying. Pop culture phenomena. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. But it should stack up on its own i agree you know i shouldn't have to watch 500 episodes of the tv series so i can watch the movie transformers original series terrible yeah i said it yeah i loved it as a kid it's bad it is bad okay so but

it's better than this maybe so there was supposed to be a number of tying episodes to this one so you'd watch those and then you'd step into the theatre and go, it's a continuation of all my favourite characters in this sex pest on the big screen, right? Alright. But, episode number 38. Yeah, she's hot. Yeah. Episode number 38 contained repetitive visual effects that induced photosensitive

epileptic seizures to a substantial number of Japanese viewers. An incident referred to as Pokemon Shock. As a result of the seizures 685 viewers were taken to the hospital bloody hell so those episodes were delayed the show went on hiatus for a couple of months yeah right so there was a bit of kind of confusion as to where this was going to form the timeline it's gonna get it it's after all your kids got seizures all right it's set after that did you watch that show show Drawn Together? Yeah, I'm familiar with it.

It was like an animated reality TV show where they put together all the weird assorted Pokemon, assorted cartoon characters. Yes. And one of them was a Pokemon that gave people seizures. Okay, right, great. So there we go. I get that reference now.

I'm sure it's in The Simpsons as well. Yeah, probably. At some point. Okay, a lot of this movie also, well, first of all, it's about cloning original Pokemon to make better Pokemon. That's what Mewtwo is about. Yeah, yes. But the rest of this movie also, well, first of all, it's about cloning original Pokemon to make better Pokemon. That's what Mewtwo is about. Yeah, yes.

But the rest of the movie, I would say probably at least 80% is standing in the same room. Everyone's just standing in the same room. And there's a brawl and there's some yelling and there's some tears and there's some joy. But it's mostly the same room. You can go anywhere. It's a cartoon. You can do anything. You know what this reminded me of? It reminded me of movies from like the 50 room. You know what this... You can go anywhere. It's a cartoon. You can go anywhere. You can do anything. You know what this reminded me of?

It reminded me of movies from like the 50s. Right. Not because of the Pokemon, but because of like, they'll be like, oh, we've opened this door and there's a long hallway. Let's walk down the hallway.

Let's see every frame of them walking down the hallway. Well, you gotta get that movie runtime. That's true, yeah. Really drag it out. Yeah. There's a moment where the clones come out and M too's like you can't defeat these clones because they're way stronger which is true turns out to be true until he takes away their extra abilities using

psychic powers or whatever and they're like to ash they're too strong ash and ash is like i'm not giving up and by that i mean my pokemon will still fight i don't have to do anything. I'm really not doing anything. I was also confused by like what the trainer does and is the trainer, the trainer's not in the fight. It's dog fighting Mason. No, I get that it's dog fighting, but initially at one point Ash, like he throws out the Charizard, which is the orange dragon thing, right?

And it just shoots fire at Mewtwo, who's the trainer. Yeah. Poor sportsmanship is what i'm saying yes i understand like if you were in a dog fighting ring if you're in a dog fighting fight dog fight if if we were if we were if when we go to the dog fight if mason oh i see what you're saying okay if we were going to dog fighting and we were letting the dogs off the leash you wouldn't go attack the other trainer no poor form i. You teach your dog to stab and box. Absolutely.

Which is what you should do for Pokemon. For sure. So Mew turns up, the original Pokemon, and there's a big battle in the sky. And by that, I mean they just form force fields and they just crash into each other repeatedly. But while that's happening, the clones of the Pokemon they've made are fighting each other. Yes. And this is my favorite. This is the bit that they've made are fighting each other. Yes. And this is my favorite. This is the bit that I enjoy.

Yeah. Well, first of all, there's a very sappy song. It's about brotherhood. Brothers being brothers. And love and sticking together. It's like a slow acoustic jam about being brothers. And while this is happening, they're just slapping the shit out of each other. Mewtwo, as you mentioned, has taken away.

He's used his psychic powers to take away all the Pokemon's powers, like the good guys and the bad guys. Yes. So they were on an even playing field like they don't they're not using tricks they're just using their strength and first of all they all look exactly the same except for charizard who has stripes the clone has stripes but they all look exactly the same so it's very difficult to keep track but second of all because they don't have any powers it's just them just literally punching each other. Just wailing at each other. Getting the claws in, getting the teeth in.

Some are slapping. This is what I wanted, yeah. Pikachu and Pikachu clone are just involved in an extended slap fight. Yeah, it goes for so long. Yeah. Until one of them stops. But then it's like, hey, we're brothers and we're... Also fighting.

Gotta stick together, yeah. It's weird. And the nurse says, oh, Pokemon aren't meant to fight. Not like this. They're all living creatures. That's the show. Yeah. This is what the show's about.

Yeah. What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but there's a reason for this. Not like this. What it is, in the English version, this was changed. Like the fighting is wrong moral. Oh, right.

That was added. In the original, the nurse is like, fighting is awesome. We love brotherhood. This is what brothers should do to prove who's the superior fighter of the brothers. So the English version was changed to make Mewtwo more evil. He was more nuanced. It was more nuanced in the Japanese dub, but they thought that'll be a bit too much for Western audiences.

Yeah, right. So we'll change it so he's just a flat out villain. there was that change which makes the movie in my mind incomprehensible in terms of what is supposed to be the message of this movie but the other change that they made and i think this is for the better the american edit of the film contains cgi effects that weren't included in the japanese cut these include realistic looking clouds. So, swings and roundabouts, you know what I mean? That's pretty good. That's cool.

But yeah, like, it amazes me that, I guess I wasn't that surprised when we get to this part of the movie, but it's like, we've all realised that fighting is wrong. You've been fighting for years with these creatures. So slavery's not wrong. No. Dog fighting's not wrong. No. Dog fighting's not wrong. No, I've said it. If.

No, I've said it. But having them physically attack each other, that's a step too far, isn't it? I wonder, the thing that I wonder, though, is if I were to say to somebody, hey, you've got two options here. I mean, they're going to slap you. I'm going to shoot you with a flamethrower.

Which would you choose? Slap, obviously. Slap. I don't think I'd get slapped. But that's what this is. Like, imagine one of your Pokemons are fish and the other Pokemon sets it on fire. Yeah. You're in serious grief, mate.

Yeah. You're in strife. You're bloody in strife. It's a crook thing to do. But apparently slapping's too far, isn't it? It's too far. Ash gets turned into concrete because of lasers. He tries to jump in to stop the fight.

And he gets set to stone by lasers. And then all the Pokemon, including youtwo, cry and he's fine. Whatever that means. I don't know. Okay. And then in the American version, which we, the one we saw, Mewtwo, who at this point has decided he's going to wipe out humanity, immediately changes his mind. And he's like, actually, crying's good.

He realizes that everybody here, like they've learned their lesson so i'm gonna leave but i'm gonna wipe their memories so they have to learn the lesson again nobody learned anything i guess yeah also ask first yeah kidnapping people i think if i were ash that'd be the last thing i'd say i'd be like how about you don't erase my memory it's a bad thing to do. Ask first. Consent's important. So that's pretty much it. But the critical response at the time was it was hated.

But again, it wasn't for critics. By kids? Critics. No, kids loved it. Right. On a budget of roughly $5 million, it made $173 million. And that in the US was a phenomenal amount of money for the time. And this was like 20 years ago.

And just so you know, this July, get ready. There is a CGI remake called Mewtwo Strikes Back Evolution. It's the same movie. Oh, hello. 3D. Imagine how those clouds are going to look, you know? Ooh, ah. So cool.

Just like being there. Finally, the rest of the film catches up to the clouds. That's what I'd say. Love it. Anyway, do you want to end on a fun fact? Yes the clouds. That's what I'd say. Love it. Anyway, do you want to end on a fun fact? Yes. Okay. And we did it, everyone.

Oh, wait, what's the fun fact? Team Rocket mistakes Scyther for Alakazam in a sequence when Mewtwo is capturing the trainer's Pokemon. That is so embarrassing for them. Good Lord. So that is Pokemon, the first but not last movie. It's horrible I'd imagine the Japanese dub Is more coherent

It'd have to be Well it is They say it is On Wikipedia at least Uh huh sure But I just don't I don't See how you could

Look back on this and go Yeah this is good Aside from like a nostalgia Of you having seen it At the time Uh huh Well look maybe Ben Can provide some context

Yeah Ben what do you think Yeah what do you reckon, Ben? Watch it again and tell us, Ben. Anyway, this has been Caravanna Garbage, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. I just feel sad. That whole thing. It's a real downer. Start to end.

Yeah. Yeah. So if you've got something you want us to talk about, it can be a movie, it can be a comic book, it can be a TV show I'm just anticipating I know it's a bad idea to put this out and yet I'm still going to do it but also we do videos every Sunday, Tuesday

and Thursday and we have a podcast called The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows we're doing Detective Pikachu on this coming episode on Monday morning Some versions of Pokemon the first movie feature an animated short called Pikachu's Vacation. I did send that to you. And then after watching the movie, I messaged you and said, because I wasn't going to watch it. And I'm like, well, I'm not going to make him watch it if I didn't watch it.

Pikachu, Togepi, Bulbasaur and Squirtle cross paths with a group of bullies consisting of a Raichu, Cubone, Marill and a Snubbull. Can you imagine that, James? Can you imagine it? Look, all I know is they sound like dumb words to us, but a lot of the things that I like just sound like dumb words to other people. Pikachu and his friends and the bullies work together and successfully free Charizard and rebuild the park. Well, now I have to watch it, don't I? Before parting ways when their trainers return

and then trap them in poker balls and stick them in a backpack where they have to live in a void, probably. Awful. Makes sense to me. Anyway, guys, have a good week. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye.

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