The Weekly Planet - Prometheus - Caravan Of Garbage
Episode Date: August 14, 2025The Alien franchise was flagging after the middling reception of the previous few entries including a crossover with the Predator franchise. In an effort to bring back both the prestige of Alien and ...Aliens plus the fan base Ridley Scott returned to the series with Prometheus. Set up as a prequel of sorts with echo's of future entries it assembled a steller cast, the help of Lost's Damon Lindelof and a huge budget. To this day it sits as an odd entry to failed to deliever on its promise but not without it's high points. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome back.
everybody to another episode of Caravanagh Garbage where we're taking a look at the two Prometheus movies.
You sounded surprised. Prometheus 1 and Prometheus 2, Prometheus Government.
You sounded surprised that we were back.
Yeah. I always expect that we're going to die between episodes. So it's a pleasant surprise.
Well, me too, but the opposite. I feel bad. I'm like, Goddammer, why didn't we die?
Why can't we die? That's why I do these videos.
Because I'm hoping the weight of the views and the likes in the comments, you know, liking this video will crush me today.
Oh, and they'll finally be released.
Well, look, let's give it a go.
I'll be crushed like a giant spaceship.
Just to get it out of the way,
yes, we know they should have run to the side.
They should have run to the sides of the spaceship.
Before we get into this.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of people do a lot of stupid things in this movie.
We know that.
But they do a lot of stupid things in all these movies.
Yeah, but I feel like we'll get into it.
Okay.
But yeah, they should have run to the side.
Right.
Let's see if we can crush Mason under the weight of all these likes, by the way.
If you wouldn't mind.
Yeah.
Sweet release.
Do you remember when this was coming out?
This was announced as a.
alien prequel and then in the months leading up they're real cagey about whether it was an alien
prequel or is it said in the world or whatever they would never do that now they have to be like
this movie is a mix of alien and aliens everything you love in alien and aliens is in this movie do you
like the gun well we've got a gun that looks like that gun do you like the alien we've got an alien
looks pretty like the alien but also newer and better yep fresh and new but not too far from
the original do you like prometheus we've got a big skinny prometheus man there it is
There he is.
That wasn't in the promo, but it wasn't the movie.
He's in his late 30s and he can't get his life together.
So he's just like you.
Relatable.
It's relatable content.
It is relatable.
Yeah, but in this one they were like,
maybe this is set in the alien universe.
Maybe this is like soldier's set in the Blade Runner universe.
Maybe.
That's a sick soldier reference, by the way.
Thank you.
Yeah.
When we do the Blade Runner movies,
you better believe it's going to be the Blade Runner trilogy of movies, Mason.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
So the origin of this,
we talked a little bit about this when we talked about the A-VVey.
is that James Cameron was discussing the idea of a fifth alien film with Ridley Scott
and they were thinking maybe we bring back Sigourney Weaver again somehow, clones again
or wipe the other ones out.
I don't know.
We don't know specifically what they were doing.
But when 20th Century Fox were like, well, we're going to do Alien versus Predator,
James Cameron was like, I'm out, I'm not doing this, and he's never come back.
But Ridley Scott did come back around.
Ridley Scott was like, I'll do anything.
I'll do any movie.
You know what?
I will tell you this up top.
I enjoy this movie more.
with each subsequent watching.
And I think it's partly because I get maybe more in tune with the characters
and I understand why they make some of the dumb decisions that they do.
But I think it's also just like the general vibe of Ridley Scott.
Totally.
Because you know some directors are all like, you know, some of the great older directors,
you know, like Martin Scorsese is always like,
oh, I don't know if I've got any more films left in me.
The power of cinema is killing me.
You're all killing me.
But then Ridley Scott's like, I'm going to make movies forever because I'm never going to die.
You know, he's like us.
He's never going to die.
And I'm like, I've got to respect that.
Yeah, he'll churn out an alien sequel.
He'll churn out a gladiator sequel.
Why not?
Glad2ator.
Yeah, that wasn't a very good one.
Do you remember at the M-Wen,
Denzo Washington has not fought or whatever?
He got fought in a river?
I don't remember that, really.
I do remember, didn't they fight?
Did they fight giant alien guerrillas or something?
I think they were regular baboons, but they didn't have hair or something.
But that is true.
So anyway, John Spates, he wrote a few versions of this, but because he didn't...
More like John Space.
Very good, because he didn't have...
Is it very good?
Yeah, it's very good.
Thank you.
Because he didn't have, I think, like movie writing credits at that point.
The idea was to always bring someone else on board.
So eventually Damon Lindelof came on in 2010.
Of course, this is the year of lost.
Oh, the King of the Mystery Box.
Yeah, so that's why this morphed into this less of an alien prequel
and more of a movie set in the alien universe,
which was supposed to then run parallel to the original alien movies,
but in its own narrative.
But in the next movie, they're just like, oh, fucking aliens, whatever.
That's right. Whatever.
So this is set significantly before alien and aliens, right?
Yes.
Okay, yeah.
And there's so much of it that obviously carries over.
This is set on a planet, remarkably similar to the one we see in the first alien and then aliens.
Their sister planets, apparently, orbiting the same gas giants.
Well, they're both LV planets.
They're both Louis Vuitton planets.
You know, for the space elite or spilite, if you will.
Yeah, that's right.
God, they got the hot springs, got whatever you need.
They've got that dark soil that they loved filming in.
That's right.
A Bolivian we looked out recently, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, imagine a mud bath in that dark soil, you know what I mean?
Beautiful.
Apparently also...
This movie's got all the space mod cons you'd need, you know?
You got the balls that map the room.
Oh, yeah.
You got the wall goo that shows you the past.
You got that rotten passion fruit that makes you disintegrate and then fall in Aruva.
You know, you understand what?
rich people would pay for this sort of stuff.
Yeah.
It's like hitting the bird under the blanket, which we talked about.
That's right, which apparently they put in succession.
That's good stuff.
Well, yeah, you're mentioning things that are like changes or additions to the alien law.
Like the black goo, which by the way has never done a good thing in its goddamn life.
Let's be real.
Not in cinema, not in real life.
If you're near a black goo.
Get out of there.
Yeah.
Best possible scenario, it's black gold, Texas tea.
That's right.
And then you're rich.
Yeah.
But then that's a whole host of other problems, isn't it?
Worst case scenario, it's got a weird cobra thing and it eats your face and it's filled with acid.
Exactly.
And if it is black gold, Texas tea, you're turning into a Daniel Day Lewis and you're beating a guy to death with a bowling pin or whatever.
Is that what you want?
Maybe you do.
Yeah.
That's Paul Dano.
Leave him alone.
And obviously, they elaborate on the space jockey, not only like as a species, but also design-wise because initially you think that they're like an elephant-esque kind of creature, but that's a bio-mechanical suit that they're in.
And they just look like big blokes.
Also, they sent Jesus to worth.
But you wouldn't know it from this movie.
We'll talk about it later, Mason.
All right.
So, yeah, there's also this huge mystery element to this.
You've got to unravel the mysteries of the Prometheus, right?
And they're the ones that created life on Earth.
And this is very much about, well, it goes back to apparently what both NASA and the Vatican said
that it's almost mathematically impossible that we could be where we are today without the assistance of a higher life form.
NASA and the Vatican, they, they, they,
They got together.
They put out a joint statement.
Yeah.
They did the predator handshake and then they both agreed.
They did the Commando handshake.
Yeah.
It was the Pope and Christopher Hitchens or some shit.
I don't know.
Remember when he was like, waterboarding isn't torture?
And then they did it on him.
And he was like, oh, it is.
I was wrong.
In this specific instance, it is.
Shut up.
He did shut up.
He's dead.
Okay.
Yeah.
But yeah, ancient astronauts and all of that.
I like that.
I dig it.
Me too.
I mean, because it's not just alien and aliens again, you know?
I mean, Romulus is what it is.
I like it, but you've got to respect that this is a big swing.
Also, it looks fucking incredible.
It really does.
Yeah.
I mean, we start with the black soil.
Sure.
Then there's more stuff.
Yeah, there's other things.
I mean, chip design.
I know the tech doesn't really fit the universe of the alien world.
But, but...
But we both have things to say.
Before you're going to contradict me, but Mason.
No, but I'm sorry.
I'm on your side.
No.
I'm on your side.
This is what the alien...
I feel like this is a realistic stab of what the...
the earth tech would look like if you have unlimited money.
Right.
Because the other, you know, alien and aliens, it's scumbags, obviously.
But this is, this is an old guy Pierce money, you know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's scumbags and also that vessel is really old for its time as well.
So, yeah, I understand it.
You know, that's all obsolete tech that they're using in the movie Alien.
Also, H.R. Giga, he didn't work on this explicitly, but he did come in and kind of, you know,
give a few notes or whatever.
This is technically the last alien movie that he worked.
on. A lot of the designs, most of the designs are like inspired by his work, but it's not
him specifically. So you just walk around, pointing and stuff and going make creepier.
Yeah. Make more penis. This one.
Do you know what HR Giger stands for? Hey, really Giger.
That's not my joke. That's from a Super Ego podcast. Is it? We'll cut that out, but that's fine.
That's your joke. That's not mine. It's your joke now, yeah.
Good cast, great cast, in fact. Let's name some.
Doing a series of inexplicable accents. Oh my God, Southern Bell Idris Alba.
You a fan?
Idris Belva.
Boy, am I?
That's good.
Yeah, that's good stuff.
That's mine.
When I hear an accent like this, I always wonder, is that a choice he made on set?
Can I be a Southern Bell?
And Ridley Scott was like, sure, fine.
Or was that in the script?
And he's like, well, I have to make this work.
Yeah.
And I don't.
I won't.
I refuse.
He doesn't have to.
He's a cool guy.
He can just be British.
It's crazy.
He's not wearing a cowboy hat, right?
It is.
You imagine it, don't you?
Maybe this is a man.
Mandela effect, maybe we're from a universe where he was wearing a cowboy hat.
We got shunted over.
Yeah, yeah, that's probably right, actually.
So we got Numi Rapace in the lead role.
We got Charlie's Theron.
We've got Benedict Wong, who is great.
He's also in the movie Sunshine, where he's on an international team
where they've got to go into a spaceship and save the sun.
Oh, yeah.
We've got Tom Cruise's Mission Impossible guy that he always has a dream about, and it's his wedding.
That's right, yep.
What's his name?
Harris.
Oh, Sean Harris.
Sean Harris, yeah.
Who's in a great Australian movie called The Stranger, if you haven't seen it.
Super depressing.
Yeah.
Yeah, but he's good. He's so good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not Tom Hardy is in this.
Logan Marshall Green.
That's right, yeah.
He's also good at an inexplicable accent, but he's choosing not to employ one here.
Yeah, true.
It's just a regular accent.
He's also in the Australian movie Not Venom.
And if you want to be in, you're talking Upgrade.
Yeah.
If you want to be someone in this movie universe, you want to be, as Nomewere Pace's dad.
I mean, he's got another host of problems.
His wife's dead.
Yeah.
But at least he wasn't torn to shreds by some sort of acid spewing monster.
You know what I mean?
I assume.
Yeah, we don't know.
We don't know for sure.
We haven't seen Alien Earth yet.
Yeah, but he's there and he's in soft focus, so, you know, he's having a great time.
He's having a great time in a dream.
Yeah.
And, of course, we've got to talk about Michael Fastbender's David, who is an incredible character.
Such a weird unit.
Absolutely.
And there's no mystery about, like, oh, who's the robot or whatever.
Oh, there is a bit with Charlie's the Ron.
They kind of make a joke that she's a robot.
But just straight up, it's like, this is an odd duck.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Keep an eye on this guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
When did he, did he go Space Mad in the two?
two years between them launching the ship and making it to their destination.
Was he always mad?
Did he watch too much Lawrence of Arabia?
Did that bleach go into his skull and fuck up his circuits or whatever?
Yeah, maybe, maybe that could be it.
Because he wants to be Peter O'Toole in Lawrence of Arabia, which is...
What a weird thing to put in?
I love that.
Do you think maybe in every interstellar voyage he picks another movie and then just starts to
become that person?
Is that why he's like, he's on a bike because at one point he wanted to be P.
He's playing bike skitball.
He's, yeah, he's playing...
Do you think he watched basketball?
And he misinterpreted it slightly?
I think so, yes.
That's probably now he thought it was bike skitball.
Yeah, maybe.
Apparently he based his performance on the replicants from Blade Runner,
the man who fell to earth, the movie,
The Servant from 1963, Lawrence of Arabia, obviously,
an Olympic diver Greg Luganis for the movement.
I see.
Yeah.
And there is a moment where he poisons not Tom Hardy.
Yes.
That's so disrespectful that I'm doing that.
Logan Marshall Green.
with the black goat.
I mean, you're not wrong.
It just doesn't narrow it down.
Almost everybody is not Tom Hardy.
That's true.
And watching this again, and I'd seen it multiple times,
and I'm sure I'd probably picked up on up before,
but he very clearly targets him because of their interactions.
There's a moment earlier on where he,
Logan Marshall Green calls him boy.
He asked him why he's wearing a space suit.
There's all these other little moments.
His attack on him isn't random.
Sure.
He picks him specifically, which I think is terrific.
I also love how.
You love targeted attacks.
Yeah, exactly.
It's terrific.
But also love how he's so upset.
We've got to talk about how stupid everyone in this in Mason, but he's so upset about what
they've found on this alien world.
Uh-huh.
Working alien technology, basically a fucking human head.
You're right.
Uh-huh.
And also their DNA is 100% match for human.
Uh-huh.
That's as good as it's going to get.
Also, there's like a frozen guy in there.
I know he doesn't know that yet.
But this is like, this is the best.
that has ever been found.
And he's like,
what did you want?
David?
No,
not Tom Hardy.
Oh,
right.
Oh, right.
Right, right, right, right.
What's better than all they'd already found?
Yeah,
no, that's true.
I mean,
they found that black sand.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Yeah, yeah.
And he found the wrong end
of a flame throw later on.
Boy, did he.
No, you're right.
I mean,
finding anything would have been crazy.
Absolutely.
A drawing on a wall is good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, he's not the only stupid one.
And there's, Rafe Spall tries to pet a snake after he got scared in a spooky cave.
And he's like, this is all right.
I'm going to pet this snake.
God, I love how it breaks his arm.
That's good stuff.
You know, because there's, obviously, one of them is the map guy and they get lost.
Yeah, he's the map balls guy, sure.
Yeah.
And the other guy's the biologist.
He's like, I will, I'm going to touch these weird animals.
Why wouldn't I?
They take their helmets off because they're like, well, the air is breathable.
Yeah, but like.
The air up there's not, though, is it?
And pathogens.
snakes
Yeah snakes
Or rock falls on you
Bad smells
Bad smells
Bad smell
Yeah
You go into the black goo room
Come on man
I mean even the way
That room set up
Where you go in
And it just
Stabilises the entire environment
Yeah yeah
That's a wild decision
For a room
Which is basically carrying
Like nuclear warheads
Yeah
I mean you go into that room
And the walls covered in goo
And it shows you the past
It's probably radioactive
Keep your helmet on
What are you thinking
How do you feel about
Guy Pearce in this being Guy Pearce, but he's an incredibly old man.
Now, the idea behind that was, I'm guessing, that there's a deleted scene where he's young
or there's a, he's going to be, he was going to be in a sequel where he's young or something.
Well, he is in the sequel than he is young.
But also, they used him for promo purposes.
There's a fake TED Talk, which is set in 2023 that he does.
Yeah, right, right.
And apparently they wanted to give this 100-year-old man like a kind of a youthful kind of energy.
Sure.
And so they did that by using Guy Pearce.
Because, I mean, Mr. Beast wasn't born yet, my issue.
They would use him, right?
I think he was born, Mason.
Okay.
They didn't want to use Baby Beast?
They didn't want to use Little Bee.
No.
Yeah.
I mean, it's pretty good old bad makeup.
The feet in particular.
I mean, that's powerful stuff, Mason.
I don't know.
I feel like with Alien, you can kind of, they feel more working class, not on these people, because they are.
But you understand their decisions.
And I know you talked about how, like, you know, people panic and whatever.
And maybe you don't want to run sideways.
Maybe you forget.
But these people should be smarter.
No, but I think also a lot of this, if you boil it down,
is because it befits the theme of the movie,
which is that everybody thinks they are superior to everybody else in this environment.
They're like, oh, it's just a little, little snaky creature.
Ah, it's breaking my arm or what have you.
You know, they're all like, yeah, where the top of the food chain here?
No, no, no giant head in an elephant's head is going to show me otherwise, you know what I mean?
Also, this is a private operation where a,
presumably trillionaire
is hiring what he thinks
are the best people in the world
and just because you've got a lot of money
doesn't mean you're the smartest person in the world
and maybe you've got an android
and then the head gets torn off it
and you get hit with that head
and you're like, shit, I did this.
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I mean, maybe.
But maybe that's just bad luck because you are the smartest man in the world.
Let's talk about the space jockey room though, which is the same room from alien, but it's
obviously a different room, even though it's the same room.
I mean, they're pretty stupid too as a species.
They were coming to Earth
to destroy everybody
and they let them buy a weapon out
one of them got beheaded
maybe even on purpose
because he was infected I assume
by the door
there's a flute
and some squishy eggs
that start the ship
I mean whatever man
that's your technology
and that's cool
but I don't know
they don't seem like
they just seem more vengeful than
what do you want tap and go
to start the spaceship
that would be convenient
I guess that ties into like
they're not better than anybody else
Uh-huh, sure.
Their technology like us just got out of hand.
So I guess that's the point of it.
Oh, wait.
Maybe we should switch to playing a flute over some eggs at the supermarket.
Okay.
Yeah, that'll be $42.
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Now, do you know, it's not in the movie, but do you know why that engineer is so mad?
Is it in the sequel?
Is it because humans kill Jesus?
It's not, none of that is in the sequel, but that's part of it.
Okay.
So basically the idea of...
Because what happens here is the humans are like,
we've seen, we've gone around the world
and we've seen all these pictograms on walls
that are like, here's these aliens that have visited us,
we should go and visit them.
And then when this team finally goes and visit this alien,
he's like, what the flip are you doing here?
I'm mad.
What apparently happens is the idea that Guy Pearce is asking for more life,
that's, I mean, these creatures are happy to sacrifice themselves
to start the human race.
Like, it means nothing to them.
It's like it's part of the circle of life,
line king style to move on.
All they're depressed.
And it's an affront to humanity, big muscle man, white man, humanity to extend your life.
Okay.
You know, you have your time and you pass on.
Seems a bit arbitrary though.
I agree.
And the fact that they're creating artificial life forms like David, like that upsets them all the same.
I'd probably be like, can you give me another six months?
And then they do that.
And then like at five and a half, I'd be like, wouldn't kill you to give me another six months.
What else you got?
Yeah, what else you got?
You got a little bit more.
And then you do it.
And then you do it.
you'd be like, you know, you'd be giving them a cake.
Look, we've been here for 100 more years.
We, woo, woo, you know, and we're best friends.
And he'd be like, I was mad at first, but now I'm not mad anymore.
I'm your big, muscular white friend.
Look, we're both on the cake.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah, we're holding hands on the cake.
So what seems to have happened is, yes, it was an invitation.
Okay.
Right?
But management changed.
Change your management.
I don't think it's.
management because after those invitations were written, we killed Jesus.
Yes.
And here's a quote from what happened.
No, we didn't do it.
I would never.
I'll be like, he's all right.
Give him a chance.
Let's hear him out.
So the quote is, we took a child back to paradise and educated him, taught him the meaning
of life and creation.
We put him back into Eden to educate your kind, but your kind decided to punish him.
We gave you the fruits of life and you repay us by leaving it to rot.
Like that passion fruit.
Yeah.
So Jesus himself, it seems, was not an engineer, but,
somebody they took from Earth, educated, and then put back. I mean, if we had big white muscular
ball Jesus, he probably would have stood out. Also, I don't think you'd be able to crucify him.
He'd just be like king conning everybody. Yeah, what would happen is you'd put him up on the standard
height cross and he'd just, his feet would still be on the ground. He'd be like, I don't, what is
this? It's a tanning bed? It's not going to work. I'm naturally like this. There's also alien stuff,
but bigger references. There's xenomorphs on like a mural. There's one at the end, we'll talk about
it there's like the first kind of proto chest buster oh yeah
which i like that's a big gooey thing so i think one of the reasons that people were upset
about this was that the idea that it was sort of demystifying the idea of alien and aliens
the idea of like you know this i think the next one does that more so but yeah i think so too
yeah that that this idea of you know they're from places unknown or they you know we
we just don't know but the idea of this is like no it's these these guys yeah or like
you know on the idea i think
maybe in the first alien that the
space jockeys
in that ship were not in control
of the aliens. They were
they themselves were infested by
the aliens and that caused
the ship to crash or what have you.
But that's a story for another movie or day.
That's true. Not this one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But I think there's a lot of new stuff here that works
including there's a chestburster-esque scene
with the surgery and the pod.
I think that's really terrific. I mean, we talked
about it again, but Alien versus Predator
Requiem tried to up the chest burst a thing by pregnant women birthing multiple aliens.
And I'm like, nah, I don't know about that.
But I think that's a genuinely like upsetting and tense sequence.
When I watched this on streaming, it said it ahead of time, it said rated M, including
a medical sequence.
And I'm like, it's a stretch to call that a medical sequence.
I don't know what it is, but I don't think it is.
I don't think it's a medical sequence.
What do you think it is?
What would you call it?
Just a bit of fun?
Yeah, just a bit of fun.
Just a goof?
It should have said rated PG for just a bit of fun.
I mean, the crash is incredible whether Idris Alba and his mates take out the ship. That's great.
That is good. That's an incredible crash. They run in a straight line. We've all done it.
Yeah, absolutely. We've all done it. Yeah. That's the shortest way between two points.
That's right line. So why wouldn't you, you know? And then they're off on another adventure, David's head and Naomi Rapuce.
Correct. Repace? Yes.
Naomi Rapace. I mean, not for long, because she doesn't survive.
No. Contract didn't survive.
No, but she was in a prequel, short, film, viral thing that went online.
Well, I've never seen it, which explains why her contract got cancelled, I guess.
Not enough people saw the viral online prequel webisode.
You had to type in a link you found in a serial box.
There was like a David iPhone-esque video.
Did you see that one?
It's like, this is the new David.
He's like, hello, I'm the new David.
Hey, it's David.
Don't forget to like and subscribe.
Also, if I find something that's interesting that could kill you,
I might be trying it out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's might befall you.
Oh, and there's an alien at the end, but not really.
They're called the Deakin.
But what's it going to do?
Just run around until it dies.
Yeah.
Is that because it became the mascot of Deakin University?
Correct.
In Australia?
Yes, that's right.
Yeah.
The Deakin University Deacon.
He's very good.
He's job.
I don't know, man.
I hope it enjoys being alone on that planet forever.
Yeah, there's only one of them, isn't there?
And we never see one of those again.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, it's time for tributthias.
This is a trivia section of the show.
I'm excited.
No, I saw this on IMDB, and it's only partially true.
But composer Mark Strightonfeld had the orchestra play, his compositions backwards,
and then he digitally reversed them for the final film,
which makes things kind of sound unusual and unsettling.
Apparently, that's only true for, like, sections of the music.
The score's incredible in this, by the way.
I think it, I think it, there are like elements of the original.
I mean, the bits that are going forwards are great.
Yeah, exactly.
Something that's going backwards.
Not for me.
Not for me.
Sounds weird.
Yeah.
Do you want some nude formation?
What?
Do you want some nude formation?
James, you know me.
Why wouldn't I want some nude formation?
There's a scene where Meredith Vickers, Charlie's Theron, does push-ups.
This was shot two different ways, one where she wears her underwear and one where she's fully nude.
Some earlier cuts of the film was shown at the test greeting where she was nude,
and those shots were shown at San Diego Comic Con during the promotion, and everyone was like, ooh, nude formation.
But then they took it out.
So it's not in the film.
I mean, you want, you want the traditional underpants made out of rolled up toilet.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
What are we doing here even?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The future underpants.
That's alien technology.
Super absorbent.
Yeah, from the alien universe, which is also the Blade Runner universe and also the Predator universe, I think.
That's right.
It's back together again, I think.
That's right.
Those are the underpants Kurt Russell wears in Soldier.
Including the bra.
Oh, really?
Yep.
This is the third alien film that failed to open number one at the US box office.
Alien Resurrection.
Alien versus Predator Requiem, and then this.
It was behind Madagascar 3.
Bearing in mind, this was an M15, or whatever that is in the US.
Oh, maybe an NC17, perhaps?
No, there was a bit lower than that, I think.
Ah, G-rated.
It was a G-Raudits for good.
For good.
Yeah.
That's great.
But anyways, in terms of box office, on a budget of $130 million, it made $403.4.
So it did make profitable outcomes happen.
For the shareholders.
This was also a lot to do with the fact that you had to see this in 3.
3D. It was bang in that era.
Was it really?
Yeah. Not had to, but like at least half of the screenings.
It was that situation.
Right, okay.
And apparently it cost 10 million extra.
Per ticket.
Per ticket, that's right.
Wow.
Yeah.
10 million extra to film in 3D.
I think that's too much.
Yeah, I agree.
10 million per a ticket.
Yeah.
Anyways, do you know like we've done a movie commentary on this very movie?
I do remember that.
At Big Sandwich.com.
Oh, I remember that.
We're in the next few weeks also we're going to do one for Alien Romulus.
Oh, yes.
We've also looked at some alien comic books
and we've got another one of those coming up soon.
Oh, by the way, that's our bonus subscription service
if you do want to help support us.
It's nine bucks a month.
There's a huge back catalogue.
That's right.
If you're a real xenophile, you'd love to sign up to this.
You're going to love it.
You're going to love it.
We also look at that alien game, the worst one that people hate.
The first-person shooter and whatever?
Alien Colonial Marines.
Oh, did we?
Yeah, we did that one.
Good on us.
It was a while back, but definitely.
I remember because I played hours and hours of it, Mason.
And then I watched you play two minutes of it.
It was much longer than that.
It was a substantial video, Mason, in itself.
That's terrific.
Yeah.
Anyways, we also have a podcast called The Weekly Planet
where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.
That's on its own YouTube channel.
It's on Spotify.
It's on Apple.
That's right.
Thank you to Ben and Lawrence for the edit.
Thank you, Ben and Lawrence.
Do you want to hint towards next week?
It's obviously the next one.
It's the next one.
It's weird if we skipped it.
Yeah.
We'll do soldier in between.
Great.
Great.
Thanks, everyone.
Grab that jam.
You guys, we'll see you next week.
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