The Weekly Planet - RoboCop 2014 - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: September 7, 2023

In 2014 the most powerful people on earth (Hollywood) decided to bless us all with a reboot of the original RoboCop. Taking some cues for the 1987 classic it brough Joel Kinnerman into the title role... of Alex Murphy in a effort to again revamp the classic series. With a steller cast including Michael Keaton, Michael K Williams, Jack Earl Haley, Abbie Cornish, Sam Jackson it certainly tries some things but ultimately comes out feeling rather toothless. Thanks for watching along as we reviewed all of the RoboCop movies!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jN Video Edition ► https://youtu.be/_wqz8JOmb78Help support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:55 Welcome back, everybody, to Caravan of Garbage, where we're talking Robocop 2014. Aw, come on, mate. We gotta, we gotta, don't we? We don't gotta. We gotta. Do we gotta also cover Robocop Prime Directive when Robocop fights another Robocop?
Starting point is 00:01:08 We're going to cover that? I mean, we will another time. Oh, come on, mate. James, I was trying to point out the pointlessness of just constantly chasing the content, and the content will never end. Do we cover the Marvel comic book where he gets sent to Iraq? Do we cover that?
Starting point is 00:01:24 Wherever, wherever it was, somewhere in the Middle East? They give him a rocket pack and another gun or something? He's sent there to do good though, right? Yep. Yep. Cool, okay, that's great. Leave a like if you could, everybody, because obviously off the back of the 2012 reboot of Paul Verhoeven's Total Recall,
Starting point is 00:01:41 they thought, what's next? What's another thing we can sanitize? That did poorly and everyone hated it. Let's do another one. That's right. Although I don't hate it, honestly. It's all right. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:01:52 On the back of it, but most people hating it and some people going, no, it was all right. That's slightly more accurate to Phil K. Dick's original story. We can remember it for you also. Yeah, because they got the elevator through the center of the whatever. Colin Farrell and Kate Beckinsale. And Bryan Cranston. What? Yeah what yeah well that's like this movie you look at the cast and you're like oh shit great cast uh i love i love the strong word i'm gonna start again but leave this in the audio version okay i will i think joel kinman's pretty good in this role i mean he's good
Starting point is 00:02:18 in general yeah i think so too yeah you might he's not even american no that he's lying to us what i mean he's not a robot either oh my god he's double lying to us i think he's doing even American. No. You know that? He's lying to us. What? I mean, he's not a robot either. Oh, my God, he's double lying to us. I think he's doing quite well. You know, I mean, you know, there's scenes where he's, you know, at the start of the movie where he's still human, but nobody cares about those. What we're in this movie for is when he's just a face,
Starting point is 00:02:39 and that's all he's got to work with. He's got to work with the face. Yeah. And he's serving that face. He's serving face, everyone. Serving that face. Yeah, absolutely. But otherwise, we've got Michael face. He's serving face, everyone. Serving that face. Yeah, absolutely. But otherwise, we've got Michael K. Williams is in this.
Starting point is 00:02:50 The late Michael K. Williams, he's great. Michael Keaton's doing really well. Gary Oldman, who I find unrecognisable in this role for some reason. It's just Gary Oldman, but sans beard and glasses and looking like Commissioner Gordon. Yeah. That guy could be anybody. Also, he was horny Dracula. He could be anybody.
Starting point is 00:03:05 So true. Gary Oldman is just, he's really killing it in this movie. Yeah. That guy could be anybody. Also, he was horny Dracula. He could be anybody. So true. Gary Oldman is just, he's really killing it in this movie. Yeah. You feel the emotion and the conflict coming off that character. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:12 You know when you see an actor and you're like, wow, you've done some acting. I can tell. You've done some acting before. You didn't have to do any acting in this movie, technically,
Starting point is 00:03:19 but you've chosen to do some anyway. But we get Australia's own Abby Cornish is in this. Absolutely. Jackie Earl Haley is one of those slime balls he plays so well. Rorschach, for people who don't know. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Probably his most famous role. Jay Baruchel. He's doing some good work. I enjoy his work. He's doing the slick 80s kind of coke head. Yeah, of a sort. Yeah. And, of course, we've got Samuel L. Jackson.
Starting point is 00:03:44 He's Bill O'Reilly. He's Bill O'Reilly. He's Bill O'Reilly. It's the new version of the media break that we had in the previous movies. And it looks like he filmed all those scenes on a blue screen in one day. Absolutely. So the origin of this movie, Joshua Zetumer wrote the script based off the early unfinished draft of the original movie by Edward Neumeier and Michael Miner. Interesting. But apparently Paul Verhoeven insisted that this was kind of the wrong approach
Starting point is 00:04:08 and he wanted this idea of this brutal satire of a corporate future and all the humour and work all that into it. So they've gone back to a version of this that was supposed to exist at one point or another. And I think, having you just explain that to me, I think what they're going with there and i i think it probably makes sense in a hollywood boardroom if you're pitching this idea to be like okay well that stuff worked in the 80s yeah we're going to take the original script
Starting point is 00:04:38 we're going to make it very gritty and rounded and now and and look and that's how i felt upon re-watching this it felt like they took apart the skeleton no pun intended of the original robocop and went put all the elements down on a big whiteboard and went just went we'll do all that stuff again yeah and in theory could have worked i mean practice yeah i mean we'll talk about why specifically it may not have its studio interference but but making omnicorp the military industrial complex and they're marketing themselves as this force for good in the world i think that's all kind of solid off the back of like multiple wars where that's clearly not the case yeah i
Starting point is 00:05:14 agree there's some ideas here where you're updating them for the modern day ish that i get what they're going but i think there's also elements of that original story that they've stripped out, including the fact that this is PG-13. Oh my God. But the reason for that was that the budget of this blew out from $60 to $100 million plus. Okay, and so if they've spent that money, they want to get it back in the box office, and you can't do that if it's just 40-year-old men who are like, I would love the original Robocop, but he's going to shoot so many guys right in the nuts. Yeah. You've got to get the kids in who are going to be like,
Starting point is 00:05:49 yay, maybe he'll shoot some guys in the nuts. He won't. No, he has a stun gun this time. Okay, if I'm going to be critical of this movie, and I'm absolutely going to be, because we're having a bit of fun, you know. Are we? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Look, much like I would forgive the bay verse transformers movies if the optimus prime in it looked like the optimus prime from the cartoon like he transformed into the same truck for you that's a 40 better movie exactly i think on before i get to the criticisms of this movie i reckon i'd be willing to overlook a lot of the weak elements of this movie if he kept the classic color scheme from the original movies. They even do that thing where they're like, we tested this design, but people liked it, and Michael Keaton went, that sucks, actually, and no.
Starting point is 00:06:33 But, I mean, look, they do a decent shot at it with his new version, and we see it initially, and I'm like, this is a pretty decent modernised version of this. And then they ruin it by turning it black. So it just looks like nothing. It turns from like this iconic silhouette with this iconic color scheme to nothing. And I know like it's about the themes and it's about the drama. It's not about the superficial elements.
Starting point is 00:07:00 But damn. It's not just that though, is it? Damn, it's an iconic look. And you know it's because by the end of it, he gets recolored back to classic RoboCop. And then it's like, and now you're going to have more adventures in the future, RoboCop. You're not, are you?
Starting point is 00:07:12 But I mean, surely the idea would be you start him off in the black suit. And then when it's time to be full RoboCop, when they give him the redesign, maybe the CEO says, my kids don't like the black. They think he looks scary. So let's make him silver. Yeah. And then he's, then he, then he.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Give him the little cop badge and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because if you saw this guy and you didn't know what he was, you'd be like, is that Batman? This is Batman's fault, by the way. It's the Nolan Batman suit as a robot. He looks like one of those shot-proof iPhone cases. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:44 You know, like the builders have so if you drop your phone at a building site it'll be fine that's right you drop it into your strawberry milk that's a local reference tradesman in australia loves little strawberry milks your big m that's right but there's a scene towards the start of the movie where he's he's having a test run of all his equipment in a warehouse and he's shooting shooting at a bunch of EM-208 drone robots. And there's points in that where I'm like, I don't know which one he is, because they all look exactly the same.
Starting point is 00:08:09 But as you were saying, a mere 20 minutes ago, before I started this, he's got two guns, and one's a stun gun. Is that because if he was going to kill 100 guys, they'd have to make it an R rating? But if you say, well, he's going to kill 50 guys and stun 50 guys we get a we get a pg-13 is that what's going on potentially yeah i think they put it in to be like well we
Starting point is 00:08:30 can edit around this yeah oh yeah because whether they put in blood or stun pellets or whatever that can all be done in post you can decide that much later that's right also the fact that he's got two guns means he doesn't have one iconic gun. You know what I mean? True. He's got one machine gun and another. And the stun gun. Yeah. Not good. But I do have a question for you, James.
Starting point is 00:08:51 If you could have two items ensconced in your robot legs, which enabled you to access them instantly, what would you have? MP3 players, two of them. Two MP3 players, that's nice. Well, I would have my phone, obviously. That'd be one. And then maybe like an ice cream cone. And you put the phone in the ice cream cone?
Starting point is 00:09:07 No. Oh, okay. It's madness what you've said there. Sorry. You wouldn't eat the ice cream cone? Eventually. But then you would... What would you do then with the hole in your leg?
Starting point is 00:09:15 I'd go back to headquarters and get another ice cream cone. But an ice cream cone with no ice cream in it? No. It would have ice cream in it. Yes. So it'd have to be chilled there. It's refrigerated, yes. You need it to be clearer, Mason.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Sorry. God. Even though this is PG-13, I feel like they do some horror elements in this really well. Specifically that he's just a face and a sack of organs. Yeah. They take everything away from this guy and I think that is
Starting point is 00:09:41 genuinely upsetting. That's where we get some of the best face acting. When it's peeling away, when you're finding out what's left of him and you think you can't really take more off him, God, horrifying. And when he first wakes up and he thinks it's a suit, he's like, you know, get me out of this thing. And they're like, oh, no, you don't want that. Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And I don't even mind the idea that this time around, when he's woken up, he knows who he is, and the horror of it is that he is 100% aware of what has happened to him. Yeah, right, as opposed to the originals where he's forgotten he's Alex Murphy and he thinks he's a product. Not a terrible approach. Sure. And in the rebuild, like, they give him a hand in the sack of organs
Starting point is 00:10:23 and his brain and his face. Give him his dick. What are you doing? You don't know they haven't? They definitely didn't. Okay, right. Did you see it? I didn't see it, no.
Starting point is 00:10:32 But it's PG-13. What do you want? Yeah, you're right, yeah. That's what I'd have if I was Robocop and one of my legs. A functioning dick. A functioning dick, yeah. Okay, right. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I love how Gary Oldman is very tactful with all the patients that he works with and operates on. He's teaching a man to play the guitar again with his robotic hands and whatever. And he's trying to be very understanding. He's doing this beautiful work. But he's got this assistant who's just this blunt instrument where when Robocop first wakes up and he's like, it feels weird. It feels like my body. And she's like, yeah, that's phantom limb syndrome because you lost all your limbs. And he's like, yeah, that's phantom limb syndrome because you lost all your limbs. And he's like, excuse me?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Oh, but speaking of, you know, Gary Oldman's character, he's working with people who have missing limbs and so on and so forth. There's an early scene where he's helping a man find the confidence to play guitar again. Play classical gas. Play free bird. And I think it's that moment where I knew this wasn't going to be like the original because he just plays it for a bit and then he loses his confidence
Starting point is 00:11:32 and then he stops playing. Whereas in the original, that guitar would end up in somebody's head. Yeah, everyone would be dead in that room. That's right. The strings would snap off and shoot into people's eyes, you know? No, you're absolutely right, yeah. How's about this, though? We mentioned it, but the performance of Joel Kinnaman, I agree.
Starting point is 00:11:49 It's quite good. And what they've done here this time around, they've put him in the suit, and then they've mostly CGI replaced him. And you notice that, especially on the joints. Like, if you look at his legs, there's no way that human legs could fit within that. And I think it does aid his performance
Starting point is 00:12:05 it is very different from the peter weller thing because he is much slicker he's much more tactical he he'll clear a room like john wick like it's that kind of situation he can run and jump and leap in a way that the original version can't which again i don't think is a terrible idea and i think it's interesting that when they do shut down his emotions at one point for a portion of the movie you notice like a shift in his, in his behavior and the way that he, he operates like the way that he walks, like his posture is completely different also.
Starting point is 00:12:33 So I think that's a nice little subtle thing that they added to this movie. He also has the Batman Arkham detective powers. So that's cool. I guess. Remember? He rewinds a crime in his mind. Oh, that's true. He does do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There He rewinds a crime in his mind. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:12:45 He does do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's an action sequence where he finally tracks down his attempted murderer and he switches on the thermal vision and it all looks very visually spectacular. But I kind of miss the original version where the thermal vision is clearly just like a bunch of people in weird body stockings that have been coloured over. Absolutely, yeah. I also think that, you know, I...
Starting point is 00:13:06 Look, I... Is this the time to talk about this? It's not terrible, is it? I think there's some really interesting ideas in here that aren't fully... Yeah. Fleshed out. Fleshed out.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Thank you, yeah. But anyway, I like, for example, some of the corporate decision-making in this. Like, before they unveil him to the public, they decide to just upload the entire criminal database into his brain. I think that's a huge mistake. What were they thinking? Have you ever tried to update your computer before a presentation or something? As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors,
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Starting point is 00:14:58 But I love also, and I even mentioned this in the movie, that the first arrest he makes in public is a hardened criminal who has just come out of hiding after the last six years to watch the Roboocop be revealed. Why wouldn't you? Who knows what he's going to do? But the finale of this, I mean, it does the thing where he kills a bunch of people. That's the thing that Robocop does.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Oh, hell yeah. He stomps into a room and kills everybody. And I do like that when you see him getting damaged, one thing you can't really do with the originals that you can do now, you can chip away at him and you can see the inner workings. You can blow a big hole through the dude, yeah. Yeah, all of that. You can lose an arm and all of that.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And, you know, he's fighting Edward 209. They're too competent, aren't they? Yeah. If I were to be critical of this movie, and I'm going to be, and I have, and I will continue to do so, the plot thrust is that the evil Omnicorp wants to introduce robots to policing in the United States. Which would be cool.
Starting point is 00:15:51 It would be super cool. Yeah. And maybe it's just memories of the first movie. They seem to be pretty good at their job, these robots. Like, they're not absolute numbskulls. I mean, they shoot that kid. I mean, they shoot that kid at the start. Yeah, I mean, he did have a knife.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I would say maybe add a rule. He could have stabbed that big robot. I was going to say, maybe they could add a rule to the robot cops that says don't shoot a kid with a knife, you know? I think the point is that, yeah, the technology in itself is solid, but the people behind it are not, which I guess is the point of this. Yeah, but see, that's the thing also, that I kind of feel like Keaton puts in a good performance, but he also genuinely seems to believe that this scheme will be for the betterment of the United States.
Starting point is 00:16:36 He genuinely does believe that putting robot cops on the street will reduce police fatalities. But then at the end he's just like, but I've got a gun too. that putting robot cops on the street will reduce police fatalities. Yeah. But then at the end he's just like, but I've got a gun too. I've got a gun and I'll shoot your family, RoboCop. Like don't turn on us in the last 30 seconds, you know what I mean? He didn't have to panic, did he? No. He could have just gone, don't shoot me and I'm leaving.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah. And then he probably would have got away. Yeah. Because RoboCop has enough time to be like, I think I can't shoot him actually. Yeah, there's a lot of, I would have got away. Yeah. Because Robocop has enough time to be like, I think I can't shoot him, actually. Yeah, there's a lot of... If I were Michael Keaton's character, I would have taken advantage of Robocop struggling, his humanity versus his programming,
Starting point is 00:17:16 and I would have just walked back down the stairs. Helicopter wasn't there, just go back down the stairs. Just killed all those Z209s, just walk out. You know what I think would have been a good way around it? Yes. You die hard for it. Robocop shoots Michael Keaton through himself. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Technically not a problem. But he just did it. He did it. He could just do it. He could just think really hard about his family and do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I kind of feel like if we had seen... Give him his penis.
Starting point is 00:17:41 What are you doing? Sorry, God. The movie needed more scenes, I think, where the policing robots are a genuine danger to the people. Because, again, they seem to be working fine. I don't know. They're pretty cool, too. They're very cool.
Starting point is 00:17:53 They've got that red visor. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. That's cool. Now, one thing we've neglected to mention, and I'd lay the blame squarely on you. Good, I'll take it. Is the theme of this movie.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Oh, do you mean the emotional themes? No. Oh, the musical theme? No. Okay, great. No, Mason. Thank God. So the original theme by Basil Poldoris, RIP by the way, just incredible.
Starting point is 00:18:17 But the reason I kind of noticed it here is that it just thunders into the title sequence. And I felt like you haven't really given me enough to be like, this is a Robocop movie. And I don't hate the use of the theme in this. Pedro Bromfman did this version. The Bromf? Yeah, he does a great job on this score. But it reminded me that, oh, that's a really good score
Starting point is 00:18:38 that we probably should have talked about in the other movies. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, hindsight is 20-20. Or better if you're Robot Cop. Yeah. With the thermal. And you can do the Batman detective thing. That's right.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Oh, also, speaking of the music, this film ends with the song I Fought the Law over the closing credits. Mm-hmm. Makes zero sense. They should have got Nickelback to do a cover called I Upheld the Law. And I won. And I did win. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Anyway, so so of course, as we saw up top, Peter Weller was like, yeah, maybe don't do the Robocop reboot. Yeah. But the other people had feelings on this as well, including Paul Verhoeven. Obviously, you might not know this,
Starting point is 00:19:15 but he directed the first Robocop movie. He was sceptical of this remake, saying that it was typical of the lack of fresh ideas in Hollywood. He was even less impressed by the finished movie, commenting that, just like Total Recall 2012, your favourite movie. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:31 It lacked the humour that made the original work so well. I don't think it is just the humour. I think you could really take a swing at a serious, modern-ish day Robocop movie. I don't think that's the only thing missing here, but yeah, he's not wrong. This isn't, you know, that really good movie Robocop. I've heard of it. This one isn't as good. I've never seen it, but i've heard of it this one isn't i've never seen it but i've heard of it sure uh also the director of this
Starting point is 00:19:49 jose padilla he expressed his frustration in the lack of creative control he was allowed by the studio for this project he estimated that for every 10 ideas he brought to the project the studio refused nine and he went on to describe the making of the film as the worst experience of his life when word of this conversation became public, in an effort to appease the studios, he made counter-statements, saying that actually, it was good. There you have it.
Starting point is 00:20:12 But look, honestly, if you're presenting the studio every day with ten ideas, I think they probably should reject nine of those ideas. Yeah? Because otherwise, that movie's going to be really long. I mean, the way I presumed he meant was he'd present an idea and they'd knock it back, and then he'd present another idea. No, I'm assuming that he said, I'm going to put ten long. I mean, the way I presumed he meant was he'd present an idea and they'd knock it back and then he'd present another idea.
Starting point is 00:20:26 No, I'm assuming that he said, I'm going to put 10 ideas into the movie today and another 10 tomorrow and another 10 tomorrow. It's all him riding pterodactyls. That's right. Until you give me a break. A robot pterodactyl? That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:37 No! No? Yeah, until they came up with something, right? My goodness. Anyway, it's time for Reboot Trivia. I love that. 2014. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Here's some names that were considered. Michael Fassbender. Do you mean as Robocop? Yes. Or just considered generally? Think about them. I like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Michael Fassbender, Assassin's Creed. Chris Prine, potentially Assassin's Creed maybe. I'm sure he was offered a chance to, you know. Russell Crowe. I can't imagine him being Assassin's Creed, but I can imagine him being in the world of Assassin's Creed. I can imagine him being on that big swing arm. Sure.
Starting point is 00:21:10 He's rooting for the South Sydney Rabbitohs or whatever in the stands, but he's on the swing arm from Assassin's Creed. Absolutely. Obviously, it ended up going to Joel Kinnaman. This movie takes place in the year. Do you want to take a guess? So it came out in 2014. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:24 2024? 2028. Oh, I was close. No, you weren't take a guess? So it came out in 2014. Yeah. 2024? 2028. Oh, I was close. No, you weren't. I'm so close. You're pretty close. In the span of all recorded human history, I'm pretty close. Yeah, you're closer than, say, if you said when there were pterodactyls.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah. Or Jesus's time. Yeah, Jesus's time. Similar to the pterodactyl time, right? I agree. Also, this is the only Robocop movie to be released in IMAX. I think by default probably though. Almost certainly, yes.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Now, the box office for this, on a budget estimated between $100 and $130 million, it looks expensive, doesn't it? It does look expensive. And I would say generally speaking, especially when it comes to the Robocop visuals, looks really good, good yeah it's a good looking movie uh the box office return that was 242 million dollars which is not terrible but they're expecting if you put this much money into it and it's pg-13 and you know it's a franchise that people love i guess yeah you know but i mean is isn't that that is the catch-22 there isn't it
Starting point is 00:22:22 like yeah if you make it r-rated probably fewer people are going to see it. I mean, maybe, but maybe it'll do a Deadpool and people will be like... I mean, this was pre-Deadpool as well. Yeah, that's true. So there's no way the studios would have been like, you know, this will work. That's true. But then the other problem there is if you make it PG-13, it's just not as good and violent. As Robocop 3.
Starting point is 00:22:43 That's right. Yeah. So a sequel to this. Oh, go on. As Robocop 3. That's right. Yeah. So a sequel to this. Oh, go on. It was in the works. Oh, yeah. They didn't make it. It would explain how Robocop gets his signature gun.
Starting point is 00:22:53 He finally gets it right at the end and he uses it once. And then it's like, now it's time for more adventures, Robocop. Now you've got your suit and your gun. They actually opted for... Hey, wow, this is like the best gun. It sure is, Robocop. That's why we made you wait two movies for us Now you'll appreciate it more
Starting point is 00:23:11 But they've actually opted for a requel Which is going to be a sequel To the original movie that ignores 2 and 3 It's that situation But not Robocop 2014 They're going to mention it in passing It's a movie in the Robocop universe.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yes. So this is happening, is what you're saying. Okay, so Robocop Returns. Originally it was going to be directed by Neil Blomkamp. He left that project. I think he would have done a really interesting job on it. I know people don't love all of his movies, but I think if you look at his aesthetic,
Starting point is 00:23:42 you know, District 9, Chappie. He could team up with Chappie. Matt Damon an exo suit all of these things you can team up with chappy 48 hours style oh my god that's right now chappy we're only taking you out of jail so you can track down these drug dealers and chappy's like i don't know what he sounds like south african south african let me pick up all my ps4s do you remember he had all those PS4s? What would Chappie say? I'm going to beat you up, Hugh Jackman. That happens.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Is Hugh Jackman in Chappie? Yeah, he beats up a bemulleted Hugh Jackman. We've talked about it recently. I don't believe you. It's true. I'd buy that for a dollar. That's what he'd say. That's what he would say.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Yeah, he would say that. So Abe Forsyth then came on board. He's an Australian director, if you do not know. And like all Australians, including Abby Cornish, wonderful. There's only one terrible Australian. It's Scott Morrison. Everybody else is the best. Is that correct?
Starting point is 00:24:35 That's correct. Yeah. But Amazon acquired MGM in 2023, and they've decided to work on both a new movie and a TV series, which will be coming out maybe in whatever order. Sure, absolutely, yeah. Yeah. I also think there was, maybe I'm imagining this,
Starting point is 00:24:50 but like a prequel at one point they wanted to work on, like a Dick Jones prequel. Not an Alex Murphy prequel. Regular cop. Regular man. Regular man at a less dangerous precinct. Look how good my dick works. Look how attached it is.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Incredible. Incredible. Anyways, wow. It's good to visit all the Robocop movies we've done, haven't we? That's right. And you know what? Also, speaking of...
Starting point is 00:25:18 This is better than Ghostbusters 2, you're right. That's true. Reboots and recalls... The Ghostbusters franchise immediately falls off a cliff, in my opinion. No, that's fair. They're testing and recalls, you know, they're- The Ghostbusters franchise like immediately falls off a cliff in my opinion. No, that's fair. They're testing the waters with the new game, the new Robocop game. I reckon if people respond to that, well, they'll be like, well, people love the world of Robocop. That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:35 They love that Peter Weller. That's right. Anyways, if you like this, if you're like, wow, great video, great opinions on Ghostbusters 2, guess what? What? You can actually see these videos early if you head over to bigsandwich.co. It's like our private Patreon. There's also bonus movie commentaries. There's bonus podcasts.
Starting point is 00:25:50 There's video game Let's Plays. We actually looked at a bunch of Robocop games. We sure did. Mixed bag. Wildly varying quality. And if you like Ghostbusters 2, but you don't know our opinions on it, you can simply go back into this channel
Starting point is 00:26:02 a few months or possibly years or maybe a decade. I don't know. And we've got a little review of that, don't we? So many Ghostbusters movies. I don't think any of them are good. Anyway, it's not important. Not even the universally beloved first one? The 2016 one.
Starting point is 00:26:17 No, that one's good. Yeah. Yeah, Ghostbusters 1. Anyways, do you want to know what we're doing next week? Yeah. Here's a hint. Don't know. Nice. Yeah, thatbusters 1. Anyways, do you want to know what we're doing next week? Yeah. Here's a hint. Don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Nice. Yeah, that'll be something. Can't remember. I hope it would be. Yeah, me too. Also, we have a podcast called The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. That comes out every Monday if you are so inclined to listen to such a thing.
Starting point is 00:26:39 We talk the news of the week and then the big movie that happened. That's right. And there's always big movie, isn't there? There's always big movie. Never stop. Some weeks there's no big movie that happened. That's right. And there's always big movie, isn't there? There's always big movie. Never stops. Some weeks there's no big movie. Some weeks there's not. Some weeks there's too big movie.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Yeah. And we're like, for gosh sakes, Hollywood. Spread out your big movie. Spread out big movie. Yeah. Dang it. God, let us drink in the big movie at our own pace. Anyways, thank you very much to Ben and Lawrence for the edit.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Thanks, guys. See you guys in the next one. I'm Rabdat Jem. You guys, we'll see you next week. Okay, Gary Oldman played Dennett Norton. Jackie O'Haley played Rick Mattox.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Michael Keaton played whatever the vulture's name is. Yeah, I don't think none of those sound like real names. No. Well, they're not, are they? No. They're movie people. Damn, these guys are good. That's Hollywood. Can't trust them. That's right.
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