The Weekly Planet - Scooby-Doo 2002 - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: April 23, 2020

In a shocking twist of events the Scooby-Doo films from 2002 and 2004 edged out Goldeneye to become this week''s Caravan Of Garbage review. Starring Matthew Lillard, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Freddie Prinze Jr, Linda Cardellini and Neil Fanning as Shaggy, Daphne, Freddy, Velma and Scooby they embark on a dangerous adventure to something island because of monsters and Rowan Atkinson. Thanks for watching!Help support the show and decide on episodes at Patreon ► https:// patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/ULOezLDotgEJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownTWP Itunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4T-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies#ScoobyDoo #Scoob Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. You know what's incredible about this episode that we're doing? Scooby-Doo 2002. Yes. We were originally doing Goldeneye. Uh-huh. It was pretty much locked in.

Uh-huh. We'd watched it. It was ready to go. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Then the tables turned on the polls on Patreon and Scooby-Doo broke ahead somehow. Why'd you even put it on the list? I don't know.

I put it on there because some people were saying it. I didn't think it would actually win. Uh-huh. So you just heard maybe from like your window, someone say Scooby-Doo. Yeah, exactly. Do you think maybe it was just a man who named his dog Scooby-Doo? It's entirely possible. Anyway, here we are.

Yeah. This movie. Leave a like if you can. If you can support us on Patreon, that'd be great. Obviously, you don't have to. Obviously, one's easier than the other currently. Yeah, sure. Supporting us on Patreon.

Definitely. Makes our life easier in a lot of ways. Where are you with the the history of scooby-doo you're a fan of the cartoon absolutely not i mean it was one of those ones that was on tv in the i think the mornings like before school maybe sure and i always found it frustrating it's look it's one of the you know the classic ones where it's literally the same story every time it's the same story every time and the characters on screen is searching for some clues and you're like well obviously it's under the same story every time? It's the same story every time, and the characters on screen are searching for some clues, and you're like, well, obviously it's under the rock that is a different colour from the background rocks,

because the animation is so oddly specific and cheap that the drawing of the movable rock is different. Yes, absolutely. And I remember hating it a lot. Yeah, well, I'm the same with you. But I'm aware of all the tropes. Yes. I like the idea of it, and I also like the team team and i like a lot of the characters that are in it but it was the thing

that i would watch if there was literally nothing else on yeah but then hannah barbara the creators of scooby-doo had this sort of renaissance where they did harvey birdman and sort of these sort of more no i wouldn't say mature but kind of like like self-aware parodies of their old stuff. Space ghost coast to coast. Space ghost coast to coast, yeah, absolutely. And I guess this movie is sort of, it's not quite in that era, but it's sort of included in that basket of like, hey, you remember this? We're going to make fun of it. We're all in on the joke and let's kind of have some fun with it.

It definitely feels more like a throwback. And that probably has to do with, it was a long time coming, this live action version. Yeah, right. In the 90s, Jim Carrey was going to be Shaggy mike myers was going to be in at one point kevin smith was going to direct it all of those things are the most 90s things i could have said but this is the most 2002 thing that's ever been it certainly is i mean the cast alone yeah and if there's one good cast it's it's a terrific cast and every one of them we may as well name them because if we don't people will be like why did you name that person specifically little it is in this the slc punk himself he's in a movie

called slc okay i thought you're gonna say hackers own oh he's also in hackers sorry he's also in hackers he's also in memes now he's in a lot of memes uh freddie prins jr yep sarah michelle geller real life couple i was gonna say uh fred Prinze Jr. of Wing Commander fame. Oh, my God. And Matthew Lillard. Oh, yeah. Wing Commander fame, yeah. Linda Cardellini. They're great.

Terrific. Neil Fanning as the voice of Scooby-Doo. And Mark McGrath as himself. Sugar Ray's own. We rehearsed that. No, we didn't. Everything we do is spontaneous, James. How dare you?

Okay, so the reason Sugar Ray is in this. Is because it was 2002. Yeah, but also they wanted Weezer. spontaneous, James. How dare you? Okay, so the reason Sugar Ray is in this... Is because it was 2002. Yeah, but also they wanted Weezer. Oh, no! Hey, man, I have no problem with Sugar Ray. And I especially like that Mark McGrath video, which what he does now, he goes on the celebrity cameo and he does breakups for you if you need them.

Wow. But also... He'd get too much of a coward. Have you seen the viral video where somebody calls him Sugar Gay? Yeah. When he's a kid and he goes mental? Yeah. I mean, he probably gets that a lot. Have you seen the viral video where somebody calls him sugar gay? Yeah. Like a kid and he goes mental? Yeah. I mean, he probably gets that a lot.

I'd imagine it would add up. Also, I just want to clarify a couple of things. One, I did enjoy this movie. I don't know how you thought I was going to feel about this movie. Sure. But secondly, I'm sure there are people who are watching this video who were not born when this movie came out. Yeah.

So they're not aware of the era that was 2002. This is 2002. Yes era that was 2002. This is 2002, this movie. If you're looking at it and like, why are people dressed like this? Why is their hair like this? Why are people saying the things they're saying and acting the way they're acting? It's just all we had. Yeah, you forget. You don't realise when you're in it.

Yeah, exactly. But looking back. Look, there were haircuts that were just like a really sort of violent centre part, and then it was long. There were haircuts where people made like a hundred little spiggly spikes on their head. There were people who wore like argyle sweaters and big cargo shorts together. Yeah. It's just the way we lived.

It was hand in hand. Yes. I fucking hated this. And I know it's a throwback. And I know there's a lot of love for this. And it's exactly what it's supposed to be. You cannot fault this for being Scooby-Doo down to an absolute T. Apparently it's not, though, it's not how it was originally intended to be.

Was it supposed to be darker? It was intended to be darker and sort of not R-rated, but more kind of like a more incisive parody, I think. And I feel there are touches of that. And apparently... No. No, is the answer. Everybody apparently signed on.

Yes, it feels like that. Expecting it to be kind of, you know, how now we always get grim fan reboots. Like, you know, there was that grim fan reboot of Power Rangers and stuff like that. It was intended to be more like that. And, you know, like it's a bunch of kids solving mysteries, but now they feel the real repercussions or whatever. Okay, there's a bit of that, I guess. Yeah, exactly.

But then I think the tone was changed and a lot of rewrites were happening. So it feels like it's been kind of muted a little bit. Yeah, sanitized, definitely. That falls in line with the person who wrote the screenplay. James Gunn. James Gunn. So, yeah, look, again, aside from the fact that there are real monsters in this, which is not really a thing in Scooby-Doo.

I know it has been a thing in some different versions of, but at the end, you know. It's always a man in a mask. Which is how it opens at the start. Yes. Because at the start, they're doing the thing that happens in the cartoon. Yes. And again, it's exactly like it's supposed to be.

And I'm like, this is exactly how I remember it it except it's people running around like a weird haunted house yes but i'm like nah i don't like this all right i don't like this at all but did you like it when it turned and it was like you know they're like no no when like when they they solve that mystery they take the mask off and then it's kind of like we always do this and i'm the i'm the the smart girl and i'm you know and i'm the dumb one who always gets captured and i'm just moving the bags and then i when they all quit it you didn't i didn't like that at all and again i think everybody's really good in this full credit to matthew lillard for acting across from nothing for this entire thing right there's no man in a ping pong suit in 2002 for this movie that's right it's just him going to nothing and we'll look and in the spirit of hannah barbara

cartoons of old yes the cgi is very noticeable and very yeah it's very out of place like it's all sort of faded yeah like it feels very kind of you settle into scooby-doo himself you do because it works honestly and very good the performance and all i think works but the real monsters that appear not good and spoiler alert for when scrappy do turns up which is apparently a big point of contention for this movie because people like he's not the villain he's puppy power or whatever and then he turns into like a hulk dog it's a heel turn yeah people didn't like that's interesting especially when you kind of look inside the monster's mouths and it's just it just doesn't just nothing right okay

right yeah does it i would like to talk about Scrappy-Doo then. Let's do it. Because that's interesting because that's a character that I'm sure people hated when... Because it was a later introduction, right? Exactly. It was like a Great Gazoo or a... Poochie.

Poochie. Poochie's the perfect example. But then, of course, nostalgia has caused people to go, how dare you turn, you know, how dare you change this guy into the villain? Yeah. Come on. Come on. It's characters you... this guy into the villain? Yeah. Come on. Come on.

It's characters you, everyone hated this when it came out. Everyone hated the cartoon. To be fair, the one joke I kind of liked in this when they were like, he's not even a puppy. He's just got some sort of weird disorder where he's just, he stayed small and mean. I'm like, that's, that's pretty funny. But here's a question for you. I'm ready.

Does it depress you that if Scooby-Doo was real, he would be long dead by now? Shaggy would be a man in his 40s. He'd be a man in his, well, I mean, late 40s, 50s. Sure. And he's had a long dead dog. Does that make me sad? An old man with a long dead dog? A little bit.

Now that you mention it. Hadn't even thought about it at all. But now you've brought it up. Yeah, thanks. Cool. Thanks a bunch. But also, I guess he's a magic dog Yeah well he talks

Doesn't he Yeah I just feel like this movie And please don't ask me Specifics on this Because I don't have any It doesn't make any sense Be specific

No None of the character motivations Right The interactions between people The plot The villains Uh huh How there's real monsters

And it's like a diamond In a dog's chest that turns him into a hulk dog magic yeah whatever but to me this movie is just screaming

and running and dancing and farting in whatever order for the length of it and then it finishes and there's also different variations

on the Scooby Doo song throughout it there's several isn't there I can't tell if they're like is it the same long song or is it like a series song? Oh, maybe. And it just, I think it's covers,

but I also didn't recognize any of the bands specifically. And I wonder if they were just like session musicians or it was like the, the 2002 equivalent of like Sean Paul and Pitbull. They got in the hottest artists of 2002 to do those covers. Oh, very good. Yeah. Also, I should have mentioned this before,

but Scrappy-Doo wasn't originally supposed to be the villain. It was going to be Old Man Smithers. The Lunar Ghost was going to be revealed. But I don't think that would have been any better. Because it's like, remember that guy from earlier? He did it again. That exactly, except this time he built an island for some reason. So you also mentioned now there was that version a little bit edgier.

It was supposed to be PG-13. I got some more things that were supposed to be in it. Okay. I'm going to get a lot of flack for saying I don't like this crap film. I think you might be. Yeah, well, good.

I mean, I didn't love it and I certainly, I doubt I would have gone and watched this on my own. But in, I felt there was, for me there was enough in it to warrant the watch, I think.

Okay, fair enough. But again, but you know, but I also feel like it could have been much greater, especially if they'd gone with this angle. For people who have never seen it, you should probably track down Mystery Team. Yes.

Which is a... The Donald Glover. It's sort of an original take of kid mystery solvers who grew up and never quite outgrew that, whereas the rest of their world did. And it's got Derek comedy, which includes Donald Glover and two other people, who are also great. His names escape me right now.

But who are also great, yeah. So the PG-13 version was going to be Shaggy was going to be a stoner, which is always kind of implied in all these things. Oh, my God. But in this one, instead, he just falls for a woman named Mary Jane. That's right. Played by Stray's own Isla Fisher. So she's got a ghost in her or something, or a monster.

And there's a bit where you see kind of under her face. Yes, yes, yes. So when this soul gets pulled out of them and the monster gets in is the monster wearing like a skin or what, what, what, what, what, what? Yep. You are correct. Was this Isla Fisher's first

maybe major Hollywood role? She was coming off the back of Home and Away in Australia. And so this was filmed in Australia as well, which makes sense. I didn't recognise many other Australian actors except for Michaela Bannis from MacLeod's Daughters. Of course. Who plays Carol, the woman who lifts up a man and hurls him off a pier or something.

Terrific. Velma and Daphne also had a side relationship. Oh, hello. Yeah. And James Gunn also confirmed the original cut got an R rating and they had to use CGI to cover cleavage. Okay. Which I did not notice in this film, but bend or quick scan.

He did it already. He did it the first pass. Don't worry about it. But again, look, I can't fault this. I say I hate it. It's just not for me. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that's okay because you don't have to, not everything is for you. But that's what I thought also while hate it. It's just not for me. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that's okay because you don't have to,

not everything is for you. But that's what I thought also while watching it, who is it for? Because I guess it's for people who remember the cartoon but are okay watching kind of a middling movie that pokes a little bit of fun at it but not a lot. Okay, sure. Like if it leaned heavier into it like it was a Brady Bunch.

Yeah, sure, okay. Where they live, like I think maybe it would have worked a little better if they lived in a world where there was a relatively normal world and they're still unmasking villains and people like why why are you doing this why do you all drive around in a van see that's what i think that is more interesting because the idea that it's just like that it's just real monsters at the end and it's like a gem or curse or whatever it's supposed to be it's just real monsters at the end. And it's like a gem or a curse or whatever it's supposed to be. It's like, okay. Sure. I just don't think that's as interesting.

Or if you're going to do that, go all out on being real monsters. And they're all just completely baffled by it. Yeah. And people being murdered. People being murdered. Yeah. But I think, again, I think this is a case of instructions were sent from above. Make it a movie like this.

And once you start it in motion and sets are being built and CGI monsters are being created, that's it. I'm sure it's hard to make a left turn in the middle of production and go, let's make this darker or what have you. You could very well be right.

I've got one more thing to mention before I've got some alternate titles, which I think everybody is going to enjoy. Have you invented these alternate titles? We'll find out, won't we? Oh, my goodness. Freddie Prinze Jr. shaved his head because of the bleach. He's like, this is ruined and I can't fix this.

Yeah. That's absolute commitment to that look. Apparently he hated the ascot. But quite frankly, I think everybody looks great in their little outfits. He has two. He's got two looks, yeah. First one's a wig. Oh, that is a wig.

Okay, right. Why not give him a wig for the second look? Because he's changed, Mason. He's on a book tour. I get it. It also had a budget of $84 million, but it made $275 million, warranting the sequel, which we'll come back to next week. Hooray!

But you know what I say, Mason? What's that? More like Scooby-poo, more like Scooby-boo, more like Scooby-don't, more like Scooby-loo, as in toilet with a big poo in it. More like Scooby-shoe, but a shoe that I don't like. I hate it. Perhaps it doesn't fit you. Yeah, that's right.

Even if it does, I don't like it. You don't like it, okay. Not for me. How about this as an alternate title? Scooby Do, a movie I quite enjoy. Okay. To be honest, having watched... High for Nick Mason.

Having gone into this, I'd like to know if people would watch it now, what they think of it, if they've never seen it. Not something you saw as a kid. You watch it now, what do you think of it? And the other thing is, I think I might actually enjoy the second one more because I know exactly what this is.

Oh, yeah, that's true. Your expectations have been lowered. I'll just kind of let it wash over me a little bit more. Okay, right, right. Also, you get a double shot of Buffy the Vampire Slayer alums because Seth Green is in the next one. Oh my goodness. That's right.

That's all I want in my life. Anyways, this has been Caravan of Garbage. Believe it or not, but believe it, we do this every week and the topics are decided by you, some of them. Mostly Scooby-Doo. It's my finality. We'll do all the spin-offs. We'll do the Daphne and Velma spin-off.

We'll do Scoob. I don't want to. I'll do it though. There's some prequels apparently. Well, we can talk. Let's talk about that now. so i think the prequel films exist because the second one didn't do as well and also if they did them following on that dog would eventually die so they're gonna go back don't they your dead dog hypothesis exactly you brought that to the end of the video as well just in case people have forgotten it you're like what if a sad old man

had a dog that it was his best friend and maybe his only friend and then the dog died? Yeah. Cool. What if? Sad guy. You want to watch that movie? Maybe you get another dog. Get a different dog.

But he wouldn't want to be a magic dog, would it? Is he magic? Is he cursed? Is he even a dog? If anything, it's a curse, yeah. We never see any other dogs. Maybe every dog in the universe is a talking dog. Theories let us know.

The only other dog we see, yeah, exactly. Scrappy, they're also magic, yeah. If you have a theory, what is it? Let us know. What's your theory? What's your dog theory? Also, of course, we have a podcast called The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows.

That comes out every Monday morning. It's like this. For good or ill. Oh, I thought you were throwing to a clip. No. Okay. That's just me saying this is what this is. Oh, it is kind of like this, isn't it?

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Often there's less focus, though. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. But that's the video, and we'll see you next week, I guess. Grabbed our jam, you guys. We'll see you next week.

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I mean, if you want. It's up to you. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.