The Weekly Planet - Sherlock Holmes - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

Like Batman, Sherlock adaptations are always and forever. And now that a new Young Sherlock series has debut in 2026 it's time to take a look back at the Guy Richie series beginning in 2009. Starring Robert Downey Jr hot off his return to hollywood as Iron Man in 08' and Jude Law this strips things back to basics whilst modernizing other elements (mostly the punching and hats). Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravanagh Garbage where we're taking a look at a couple of Guy Ritchie classics. Why, though? Because there's a new Sherlock Holmes and it's a prequel series, but it's not really a prequel series to this, even though Guy Ritchie is involved. Young Sherlock. Young Sherlock.

Exactly. I saw the trailer for that and I'm like, this says Sherlock and Moriati they met at the college. Oh yeah. But that's not because based on the continuity of this. Couldn't be possible. Unless he lost his memories of Moriarty in his mind palace. He might have actually, yeah, yeah. Maybe you overwrote them with punching instructions.

Maybe they had a heated rivalry back at college, and then they both were denying that that ever happened. I bet that's a fanfic, or hundreds of fanfix. I bet it's hundreds of fanfix. I'm going to go with that. They're called Sherlock and Moriarty, do a big kiss. Do one big kiss. And then it's, then they shake hands and they leave.

And they're like, see you later for crime. Wait, what? Yep. Because one of them doesn't want to do crime. He wants to solve crime, but also do some crime. That's what I'm saying. Just crime in general. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're both happy because there's crime. There's crime. Yeah, that's true. Please leave a light because we're going to be looking at this week, Sherlock Holmes 2009, and next week, Sherlock Holmes, the game is the shadows. Because Sherlock Holmes doesn't like it when there's no crime, because he gets bored.

He goes nuts. Yeah, dude, he doesn't like that. He's shooting stuff. Yep. He's poisoning and moaning. He's pissing and moaning. He's pissing and moaning. Yeah.

But, I mean, that's most mornings for a man of a certain age, isn't it? Just pissing and moaning. Just piss it in moaned it. First of all, he's like, I've invented a device to suppress the sound of a guy. You've done it wrong, Sherlock. Yeah, man. You can't put that on the end of a revolver because the gas would come out the cylinder bit, you idiot. You should know that.

First scene in the movie. I'm like, this doesn't bode well for the intellectual prowess of this man. No, it really doesn't. Well, one of the things that's hard to get right in Sherlock is that he's a genius, but he's not so much of a genius that you don't understand. process. And he's also not a genius in every aspect of his life. I mean, there's been numerous adaptations even just over the last few years. You know, there's a famous one with Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman. I don't like that as much as I like this. Yes, absolutely. But I think the

period setting and this works really well. They're fun. I remember at the time seeing this or the other one or both and being like, yeah, these are all right. Or none. Or none. Or this is the first time. But no, there's a lot to like here. Yeah. It's a great. It looks pretty good for the most part. The chemistry's fun. Yeah. You know, Robert Danny Jr. and Jude Law, great combo. Yep.

And to think if the MCU hadn't taken off as incredibly as big and hard as it did. As big, if the MCU didn't produce as many big movie as it did, he might have been doing another one of these every couple of years. Just imagine the diversity of big movie that Robert Danny Jr. would have been making if he wasn't locked into an Iron Man suit. Yeah, we could have got 10 years. And by locked into an Iron Man suit, I mean, wearing luxury a pleasure to the set. And then just having to draw a suit on him for 10 years. He could have been doing all sorts of Dr. Doolittle movies. That Dr. Doolittle movies.

Road Trip with Zach Gellifanakis movies. That movie where his dad killed somebody and he's defending him or whatever. Defending dad. Defending killer dad. Yeah, he killed somebody. He definitely did it, but I'm going to defend him. Just for a goof. That's right.

You know what I like about this as opposed to the Sherlock TV series? Yes. That became so. smug and clever. Whereas this, I mean, there might be more of these, and we'll talk about that next week. It's that perfect level of smugness and fun and letting you in behind the curtain and all of that. And you know that he's not good in certain situations. Yeah.

And that's why he needs Watson by his side. To tell him to shut up. They're a very good duo, I think, because they're, I love the fact that they're clearly very good friends. Yeah, absolutely. And that absolutely works. There are definitely some versions of Sherlock and Wants. Watson as a team, perhaps older versions,

you know, decades older ones, where Sherlock is the genius explaining everything that's going on. And Watson's just like, who, Holmes!

How did you know? Who? You know, that whole bit. And it's like, no, this guy, this guy is, he pays attention.

He pays attention. He's not, he's not as good a detective, but he's intellectually, he's on the same level. He's, you know, Watson is witty as well.

They have a good kind of flowing back. He can save the day also. He can save the day. They're both so good. They're both so good. good at punching. My God. Old-timey punching, but also with Sherlock, a bit of new school punching.

I tell you what, Mason, if you like wet, sloppy Sherlock Holmes, we go ahead for a tree. Yeah, that's true. God, so the fighting style here is apparently based on Baritsu, which he knows in the books. Okay, sure. But they adapt it more kind of a modern Wing Chung kind of situation. And there's some MMA in there.

Oh, definitely. There's definitely some leg locks and some whatever. They're choking a guy out. Yeah, there's definitely a moment where, like, Sherlock and Watson have both got like this one enormous guy in like a double UFC leg lock situation. And it's in that era where nobody else knows that. So if you know that, you're the best. Absolutely.

Yeah. But, you know, the fights are like they play them out. Like he's solving a problem. Mind Palace. Mind Palace. Like he's like, I'll do a slap to the ear and a liver punch and a kidney to the knee or whatever, you know? Kidney to the knee.

I'll hurl my kidney at this man's knee and he will not see that coming. Yeah. It's a lot of fun and it's taking like a one second moment and stretching it out over seven seconds. Interestingly, it always works. It does. Well, I think maybe in the next one it doesn't as much. Interesting.

Yeah. But also, they are doing serious and permanent damage to people. Yeah. I know he's like six months recovery. No. No, man. That guy's not going to be the same. No.

He has CTE. Yeah. Also, you caved a small part of his cheekbone in and that got into his brain. Yep. And he's going to die. There's no cure for that in this time period. Yeah. But also, whatever.

Yeah. He's not the main guy. You're the main guy. You're the main guy and life is cheap in this universe. And this movie also, this movie does a thing that I love. We also saw it in the Thomas Jane Punisher movie. It's a scrappy little guy fights a big guy. Yes.

And that happens a few times in this. I refer to the action in this. I just wrote big nonsense. It's just big nonsense. Chasing each other around. Electricity sticks, big wheels, hammers. Everybody's got a sword hidden in something. Yeah.

Oh, okay. Sometimes you shoot a guy. Sometimes. It's fine. It's fine. It's totally fine. I wanted to ask you about this because the look of this movie, Like there's definitely some CGI set pieces and extensions, definitely towards the end.

But it does feel like a grubby, grimy world where a big wheel could crush you. But then there's the fashion element, which is a mix of like rock and roll and gothic, like it's intentionally made that way. Leather trench coats and so forth. So yeah, it's not era specific because this is like the late 1900s. Like there's some embellishments. But how do you feel about that? I mean, look, I know you love a sword in a cane. I know that.

I absolutely look. I will tell you this. I don't know. I don't know if. You don't know much. I don't know much, but I know... I love you. Movies.

Oh, damn it. Dr. Watson shouldn't be wearing brown in town. That's the one unviolet rule of London back in the old days. You wouldn't wear brown in town. That's a country colour. Oh, I didn't know that. That's ridiculous. He's a man of the people.

He's got a brown overcoat. He's got a brown tweed suit. Okay, that's good. They would hang him in the town square for that. The mayor of London would kill him. That's probably fine. And justified? Yeah.

Okay, then. Yes. Otherwise, it's pretty good. I like it. It's a good, solid look. I love a big dramatic lapel on a leather overcoat. That's why I've made us both wear leather overcoats for this recording. Oh, that's lovely.

Yeah. I love how it's the peak of summer and you've made us do this. It's good for us, Mason. So this is not based on a particular story, but it does use like previous elements and characters. Watson getting engaged is a part of this. Irene Adler is in A story, but is like a returning character here. I love Rachel McAdams in this. Really good.

Very charming. There's individual lines they take from other books as well. I also love the cheese as opposed to maybe certain other adaptations that have come out recently You're talking about the I am Sherlock moment? Yes, I am talking about that. Look, there's a great H-bomber guy video

on how bad the modern Sherlock is so people should watch that but I think one of the things that I don't like about certain adaptations of Sherlock is the idea that Sherlock's the greatest guy in the world and all the cool people are fully aware of that and they know he's the coolest guy in the world.

and he's their hero and they're all in love with him. And if you don't love Sherlock, you're actually wrong and an idiot. You know what I mean? But in this, Watson thinks he sucks a lot of the time and he's right. He does. And Irene Adler has taken advantage of him and defeated him numerous times. And he's just got to live with that. Sometimes he has to put on a fake nose and chase her around.

Absolutely. And it's very undignified. But I like that she is like so cool and skilled and interesting. And she's clearly had a bunch of adventures without her. American like in the book as well. Exactly. And she's not just like, oh,

like she is his weakness. Yes, it's not the other way around. No. Like that's the point of the character is he's supposed to be invincible intellectually, but then one look at this woman and he's like, Gould.

Gooo. Gould. A girl. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So this of course is also Cockney Giza Sherlock via a Guy Ritchie. Absolutely. Now, Guy Ritchie hadn't really done anything like this before,

like this kind of budget. I think... Are you done Cockney Giza before? Oh, no, no. That, absolutely. But he was kind of stuck in that lockstock snatch kind of world And he you know he carried it on through like rock and roller and revolver And I guess swept away if you count that

Absolutely that's right But I think that was wearing thin Not only for audiences but also for him And I think this pivot into like big budget movie making It worked for a while It worked for a while for him Yeah I mean you know he did this and the sequel and then Aladdin King Arthur

You know king Arthur's got some fun moment I think Aladdin's also fun. It's got some fun moments, and he's also done some stuff. It's not as good. Not as good, no. I didn't love Ministry of Gentleman will have little glasses.

Well, I thought it was okay. I liked how all those big men... I said I didn't love it. I didn't say it wasn't okay. All right, but I think you were being very dismissive of big men with little glasses just then. I think Guy Ritchie, like, I don't love all the things that he does,

but I've never been like, he's lost it. It's over. Like, he'll come back every now and then and be like, oh yeah, I like this one. I liked this one. Anyway, the idea also of these character was to strip him back to the original stories I guess as just being a rude man

who's always stealing a hat. I didn't necessarily like how haggard and dishevelty looked. I like that because... I didn't dislike it. I think I liked that for him it's not a priority. Yeah, right. Like he'll wear something just because he has to.

Again, he'd be hung in the town square. For sure. He was not wearing brown, so I think that's fine. And Guy Richard was like, no deer stalker, no elementary my dear wants and don't want that kind of Sherlock. So he's wearing a different hat perhaps in... Sometimes he's wearing a top of a hat.

Exactly, yeah. I also like in this, a big part of the story. There's an occult element to it. It's the big part of the story segment. Big part of the story. So there's a guy. It's Mark Strong. He's wearing a wig.

You can see the mesh. And he's like... Well, they never... When this came out in the deep, dark past of 2009, nobody expected to watch this on high definition divider. It's true. And pause it and look at the mess. on his head?

It's true. His head mesh. Mark Strong's head mesh was Mark Strong's secret. I think Mark Strong... That's where I get on my underwear from Mark Strong's secrets. He knows he's bald. Mark Strong is familiar with this other secret. We know also. We know also.

And he looks great. I agree. Yeah. But I like the idea and this works in a bunch of other Sherlock stories and adaptations of bringing in a magic or an occult element. And Sherlock is buttoned up against that. And everyone around him is like, magic is real and people are back from the dead and whatever.

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle based this on an episode of Scooby-Doo he watched. Did he really? Yeah, they were all running arena, the running around. Everybody thought it was a ghost, but it was actually old man, McGillicuddy or whatever. I didn't know this. Yeah, it's true. It's true. So this new villain, he wants to Artake-o, he's bringing in a new world order, etc.

He's also got elements of Jack the Ripper, because he's done some previous Jack the Ripper-style murders. Which is Ripper, as far as we're concerned. I don't like it. No, we think that's absolute Ripper. It's not Ripper, I don't like it. Would you say it's Bonza? Yeah, it's Bonza. It is Bonza, thank you.

And I think he does some creative deaths because he dies early on in the movie. He dies. He doesn't really die. And they're like, this guy's back from the dead and whatever. And then he's giving people like a hot bath death, an explodey gun death. There's some good, there's some really good deaths. Yeah, great. And that exploding gun one is really good.

Yeah, great. I had seen this, but I'd forgotten. And just seeing a man just burst into what looks fairly realistic flames is a lot of fun. In a movie. In real life, it would be less fun, I think. Yeah. I think also detective skills, we touched on this earlier, they are hard to convey because you need a mixture of really obvious,

so the audience could notice it and understand, and nonsense. It's that fine line. Yes. But often it does still. Well, this man's got some chalk on his lapel. That's what I was going to say. He must be Professor Moriarty. Yeah, exactly.

Oh, I kissed that time. I kissed him. And then we did a big handshake and said, see you later for crime. We had a hot moment. A hot, whatever. Vivalry. Hot-hiet rivalry. Hot rivalry.

Yeah. It is, but you're right. It's that spot of ink on the ear. Everyone's always got a wedding... As if somebody's not going to clean their ear. I know. Well, that was then. Everyone's got like a wedding ring, tan line, or a distinct smell.

I think this would be harder to do in the modern day because hygiene is better now. Yeah, absolutely. And some people are just wearing all sorts of rings. They are, aren't they? They're mixing and match it. Maybe you're Johnny Depp and you've got a lot of rings. They're mixing metals. Yeah, I know, right.

You get hung in the town square in 2026. throwing a brown ring. Yes. Yeah. But also, I guess if I had a complaint, in this kind of stuff, there's always a potion that slows your heart. There is, isn't there?

Yeah. It's just the way it is, man. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know. You could have, I mean, yeah. Watson would have picked up on that, I feel. Yeah, absolutely.

He's not completely dumb. He should have, yeah, there's some, should have been some sort of switcher. Or he gets called away at the last minute so he can't be the attending physician and some other guy comes in. Absolutely. And that guy's like, I swear he was definitely dead. I promise.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I promise. The other thing that I think maybe throws me off in this sort of movie is they, the ultimate threat is always some steampunk version of a modern piece of technology. Yeah, okay. It's always like, well, the villain, the villains, he's invented a bomb that affects the atoms of the world. What should we call it? Let's call it an atomic bomb or whatever.

It's like, come on, just say it's about banks or something. Sure. He's going to steal all the money out. of a bank. I had banks then. I have banks now. It's still relatable. Banksie. Banksy. I don't think that's anything. He's the new Jack the Ripper. Is he? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying he's definitely done murders. And I'm saying that's Bonza. Yeah. I don't know. They do it in, it's always something like that. But also like, so his grand plan is like it's a new world order. He's part of a secret society.

Yeah, yeah. And he's got a secret doubt or whatever. And one of the things he wants to do. Finally, we all had a secret ad. It's true. Is that he wants to kill everybody from 1900s English Parliament. And it's kind of like, who cares? They all look exactly the same also. I was going to say, interchangeable men. I think you could have let that happen and then captured him.

Absolutely. It's fine, right? Yeah. And then you know he did the crime. Yeah, that's right. Because otherwise he can be like, no, I didn't do nothing actually. And because it's the 18 whatever's, you'd be like, there is no proof he did anything. As far as I'm concerned.

turned he did do nothing. Yeah, he did nothing. But then you can be like, no, he did it. He did it. Sorry, mate. Sorry, he did it. I liked it. But then, of course, it was all a ruse from secret genius and Sherlock's secret boyfriend Professor Moriarty.

That being a heated rivalry. He set the whole freaking thing up. So he could, the guy who invented the, he could steal a bit off the bomb thing. That's right. He could see, and it's a remote control. It's a TV remote is what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good. But in the 1800s.

How did you know it? And Sherlock's like, hmm, imagine the bomb. the power you could wield and I'm like yeah I could bloody turn you off mate switch you right off on my tally have mute mute mute gotcha fast forward through the credits skip credits right down right down thumbs down on the streaming service do not recommend this

do not recommend it hey what you think one star ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha thanks moriati thanks moriarty so I read this and I don't know whether it's true it's certainly not on my version so in the theatrical version Moriarty who we never see is voiced by Andrew Jack the version I heard of Mike this sounds like Jared Harris Yeah, so apparently, okay, so we must have seen different versions because Jared Harris apparently redubbed these lines for continuity because he plays him in the next.

So I wanted to check what version. Yeah, I was like, this sounds a lot like Jared Harris and then I checked and I'm like, oh yeah, okay. Damn, all right then. Okay, well, that's good to know. So the game is on, the game is afoot. There's going to be a new one. There was a new one. It was in 2011.

We'll talk about it next week. But I do feel like the end of this, it suddenly becomes as good as this movie looks because it's got a lot of like set extensions and making it, finding an old. street to film on. Oh, there's a great slow-mo explosion. Well, there's a lot of that kind of hand-cranked. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially for the fight sequences. Yeah.

Yeah, that explosion went forever. It's good. I like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, you didn't have to run. Watson was in it. He was fine. He was choked out of...

He was choked out a guy by the end of the movie. Yeah, yeah, he was fine. He's just like, oh, a little bit of dust on there. Oh, I see you've been in explosion. You saw it, Sherlock. You don't have to deduce that. We're both in explosion. Yeah, you saw it, man.

Come on. But it does feel a bit Marvel Spider-Man at the end. Did I realize the reason I thought this is because both Spider-Man goes to Europe and this end at Tower Bridge. Ah, yes. And I love a prequel. So, you know, it's good to come back to this universe, I guess. But, you know, it's sure like it's a moment to be like, okay, so this is why I know you did this and this and this while Mark Strong is just hanging on. And he knows magic wasn't real and knew the whole time or whatever.

If you're Mark Strong, I'd be like, God, I wouldn't give this guy the pleasure. I'd just let go. Like just, just he, that would annoy him, I feel like. I'd go, nah,

it was magic. You're actually wrong and I could prove it if you rescue me that I did magic actually. So, your call, I guess.

Yeah, you know, you can let me go but you'd be people say you were stupid dumbers. But this movie ends, how I guess God intended with chains and pulleys

and whatever. Yes, that's right. And justice. Sometimes the visual effects are a little foggy? You know, some foggy

some foggy big spindles at the dock or whatever. Yeah, there's a big wheel that flies over them in the boat bit which, you know. Yeah, big wheel.

Yeah, big wheel. Big wheel moment. Here it is. Whoa. Damn. Wait, put on your 3D glasses. Here it is in 3D. Whoa.

Do you know what's time for though? What's the time for? It's time for. It's time but Thurlock trivia. This is a trivia section in the show where we find trivia and we talk about it. Both of us find trivia.

Thurlock. Thurlock. You're going to explain that? like trivia. Oh, I get it. Yeah, I get it. I don't need to explain my art. We don't need to explain it now.

Simpleton. The character of Dredger, played by Robert Mayolette. Is he the ship's captain? No, he's the big guy who fights Sherlock Holmes. He accidentally knocked out Robert Downey Jr's,

all of them, while filming a fight saying. Wow. A lot of the stunt work and that and fighting is done by the actors in this, and you can definitely notice that. Yeah, yeah.

He's ripped in this. He is ripped. He is ripped as hell, man. He was pretty ripped for Iron Man. He's... filmed roughly the same time?

So this was 2009 so he's the year after Iron Man came out. I think he's leaner in this. Like he's more kind of scrappy and thing

which like he works. Yeah. Because then you get big guy fighting a little guy and that's cool. And that's all you need. As a Hollywood star you're going to be ripped

in shirtless once. Yep. Never have to do it again. Everybody just assumes you like that forever. It's locked in forever. Toby McGuire, Spider Man.

That's right. This is the second Sherlock Holmes movie with Geraldine James who played Mrs. Hudson. She played her in Hound of the Baskervilles in 2002. Oh. Yeah.

Here's some names that were up for Watson. Colin Farrell in talks. Ever heard of him? I have. I like it. Yep. Different vibe, though. Different vibe.

You know? Yeah. Sam Worthington. Ever heard of him? Gidey, London. It's me. John O Wotto. Wotto.

It's me Waddo, but not the Waddo you're thinking of. No, man. That's Star Wars. Yeah. Yeah. I would a show I've never heard of. Because I'm an Aussie blow. It's true. This is obviously before Jude Law was cast.

Robert Downey Jr. tells a funny story on the Graham Norton show about stepping on an extra's hand or stomping on an extra's hand. He thought was fake. That's fun. Here's a clip. And an 18-year-old Jude Law previously appeared in the Sherlock television series, The Casebook of Sherlock Holmes in 1991. Huh. Do you think that Jude Law's met this Jude Law? Yes. Interesting. Young Jude Law met old Jude Law. No, you said an 18-year-old Jude Law.

All right. Mr. Jokes is here. Oh, good. Excellent. Next time I'll lock the fucking door. You don't have to deal with this. I think you'll find I deduced a floor in your argument. I think I've learned a little something from Shell O'Cimes, and I think he's learned a lot from me. That's true. You have. You haven't. That's true. Box office for this Mason?

Oh, yes. On a budget of $90 million, it made $524. Pretty good. A big return, yeah. This is also Avatar season, and it still did well. It remains the biggest Christmas Day opening ever of $25 million. Yeah. I don't have any friends or family.

I'll get a Sherlock on Christmas Day. Yeah, I think that's fine. Yeah, that's great. I don't have any friends or family, which you don't. Yeah. Then you should see Sherlock on Christmas. I did. I was there with all my new best friends.

That's great, Mason. What is it? A game of shadows? I think so. Okay, yeah, I couldn't remember the name of this. Anyways. Oh yeah. Do you know we have a service called Big Sandwich.com?

Yes. Because what happens there is a bunch of stuff. There's payboard stuff. And in addition to that, there's also early videos. I've noticed from a little bit of, chalk on your lapel that it also contains movie commentaries, video game, let's play. Bonus podcasts, yeah, absolutely.

That's true. So we're going to be talking about Sherlock Holmes a game of shadows next week, but that will be there early if you are so inclined. It's a huge back catalogue of bonus stuff which you can check out. Also, we have a podcast. It's called the weekly planet. That's right. Movies and comics and TV shows that comes out every Monday, it's on its own YouTube channel, Spotify, Apple, etc. Maybe we'll talk about the young Sherlock when it comes out. Yeah, we'll watch the other lockheads out there.

The showheads The showheads and the lockheads Who are in a heated rivalry Are they really? Yeah, that's right They're always kissing This is fantastic and beautiful And I love it

Agreed Thank you so much to Ben and Lawrence For the edit Thank you all in the next one Grabbed out jammy guys We'll see next week I deduce We'll see you in next week

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