The Weekly Planet - Shrek 2 - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: February 9, 2023

Shrek 2 takes everything that was successful about the first film in the franchise and attempted to expand out the characters, world and magical lore. With new characters like Puss In Boots, The Fair...y Godmother, Prince Charming plus the Kingdom of Far Far Away it established Shrek as the biggest 3D animated franchise. Here in our Caravan Of Garbage review we get right into whether it still holds up nearly 20 years later. Thanks for listening!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/sC2mGxS82xMHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:54 Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of Caravan of Garbage, where we're shrekking our way. Nice. I'm doing a little gesture, like I'm shrekking through something. Are you going to define what Shrek-ing is? Yeah, it's like trekking, but I'm saying Shrek-ing. That's good. That's real good.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Thank you. I've got a picture now. That's nice. Folks, I hope you've had a nutritious Shrek-fest. Oh, very good. Because we are going to go through Shrek 2. We're going to go through it. We're going to Shrek through it.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I agree. Leave a like if you could. We're doing the whole quadrilogy, Mason. I don't think it's technically. I think the word is technically a tetralogy. Is it? I say that with authority, but I'm not sure. Tell someone who gives a shit, Mason.
Starting point is 00:01:31 But you know who does give a shit about this movie? Who? It's me, Mason. Is it? I think it's very good. I thought it was pretty good also. I thought I'd seen this. But I think what I'd actually seen was a trailer years ago.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Yeah. And then maybe a million memes. a million Shrek-based memes. Yeah, that's how everybody experiences Shrek these days. It's like Star Wars. You don't need to have to have seen it. You get it through osmosis and memes and whatever. I've pieced it together, exactly. You've pieced it together, exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I think also it's just an excellent extension of the previous movie in terms of character explorations because they put Shrek in new and terrible scenarios, which challenges his beliefs. How's Shrek going to get out of this one? Exactly. You know, he looks at how he sees himself and how others see him, how he's perceived. Can he rise above his station because he's a horrible swamp monster? He is a horrible swamp monster.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Society is against him as a whole. He's a downtrodden freak mason. That's exactly right. Because he's hideous and he's mean and he's gross. And he should go back to the swamp is what you're saying. Well, he probably just should. And I don't mean like, you know. Because he doesn't belong in high society, James.
Starting point is 00:02:36 No, he doesn't. Because of the circumstances of his birth. But I think this. Wait, was he born in the swamp? Did we ever learn about his parents? I think we might get into a bit more origin stuff. Does he have a deadbeat dad like a lot of disney disney characters uh i think okay from memory and i don't know whether this is canon i think ogres are like sent out on their own after like
Starting point is 00:02:54 age seven they don't have like family communities but i think that flips on its head in shrek four which we'll get to not shrek 4d which is a different thing which we'll also be talking about but the whole system is structured against him and i'm saying like maybe you should go back to which we'll get to. Not Shrek 4D which is a different thing which we'll also be talking about. But the whole system is structured against him and I'm saying like maybe you should go back to the swamp because the pomposity
Starting point is 00:03:10 and the ridiculousness of high society I'm not saying he's not good enough for it what I'm saying is it's ridiculous and he's quite frankly if anything
Starting point is 00:03:17 he's too good for it because he's heart mason he's actually got a heart of gold mason. That's very true. I don't know if you noticed that about him. So yeah the other thing
Starting point is 00:03:23 I love about this movie Puss in Boots. Incredible. Often they'll bring in a new fun character, like a new fun sidekick, and you're like, boo, hate this. No thank you. Give me an example. Oh, like in any form of fiction.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Star Wars, whatever happened in Independence Day 2. And then in Star Wars you're talking about Han Solo, obviously. Yeah, exactly. That awful sidekick. That awful annoying sidekick. What a terrific series of movies until about 40 minutes into the first one when Han Solo shows up.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And then it all just goes off a cliff. Yeah. And everybody agrees with me on that. Why couldn't this have been about farming? I think actually Luke Skywalker's too good for an intergalactic war.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I think he just stayed farming. Maybe you should have. That's what you think. Yeah, maybe you should have. But the thing is about Puss in Boots. I don't know if I've mentioned this before in a video. I definitely have on our podcast, The Weekly Planet,
Starting point is 00:04:09 where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. But I fucking love Zorro, Mason. I fucking love Zorro. And this cat, it's just Zorro, isn't it? It's even the voice of Antonio Banderas. I love it. Do you love Zorro so much because you had a reverse Batman origin? As a child, your parents took you to see the mark of Zorro. Do you love Zorro so much because you had a reverse Batman origin? As a child, your
Starting point is 00:04:26 parents took you to see The Mark of Zorro or The Mask of Zorro or whatever, and you just had a really nice time. Yeah, I had a really nice time. We've got to come back to those movies. Your mother's pearls were intact the entire night. Yeah, we've got to come back to those movies though. The Zorro movies, that is. But I also like how after he's defeated, he's just
Starting point is 00:04:42 like a massive suck-up for no reason to Shrek. I mean, Antonio... You like inconsistent characterisation. Yes, Mason's just like a massive suck up for no reason to Shrek. I mean, Antonio. You like inconsistent characterizations. Yes, Mason. I do love that. But you know, he knows what side his bread is buttered. He's like, I'm hanging out with Shrek now.
Starting point is 00:04:53 That's cool. He's got a couple of sidekicks. He's no Han Solo, Mason, because he's better is what I'm saying. Wow. And also Antonio Banderas. He provided the voice of Puss in Boots in English, Italian, Latin American, Spanish, Castilian Spanish and Catalan Mason. Whoa. Incredible performer.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Also. But just all at once. Just an assortment of random words from all those languages. The director's like, please, Antonio, you're killing me here. You're killing me, mate. Also, more Zorro, please. Just more Zorro in general. Why isn't there a third Zorro movie? I know second Zorro wasn't great. Like, it was still pretty fun. Also, more Zorro, please. Just more Zorro in general. Why isn't there a third Zorro movie?
Starting point is 00:05:25 I know second Zorro wasn't great. Like, it was still pretty fun. What about third Zorro? What about that Django Zorro movie that was promised that's now a comic or whatever? What about future Zorro? When there's a guy
Starting point is 00:05:36 and he's a college student and he's just like, I just want to dunk basketballs and kiss girls. But all of a sudden, I've got the legacy of Zorro. Yeah. This mysterious person's shown up and be like,
Starting point is 00:05:46 you have to be the new Zorro. He's a high-tech Zorro suit. It's terrible. You're like, I'm going to wear that old dumb Zorro suit. I'm going to wear the cool new Zorro suit. It's worse, mate. Are you talking about... The Phantom.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I was going to say that or new Knight Rider. Oh, either. Yeah, sure. Absolutely, yeah. No, I don't want that specifically, but there was... Oh, I want that. There was plans... Just to see how it goes.
Starting point is 00:06:06 There was plans for like an apocalyptic future kind of Zorro situation. Oh. At one point. Anyway, more Zorro! Everyone loves Zorro! More Zorro! I love Zorro, Mason. He doesn't slice his head into somebody's shirt.
Starting point is 00:06:19 He hands them an NFT. God. Yeah. That's way worse. And you know you've been Zorro'd. The other thing is, I like the way they expand the lore and they get into the backstory of where everybody comes from, including Princess Fiona.
Starting point is 00:06:32 You know, the idea of where that curse comes from and the fairy godmother situation. Also that sequence where they're in the factory and they're throwing all the spells. I'm like, I think Rick and Morty saw this at some point. I think this is our whole vibe. It's just this. Oh, oh you think so just chaos and whatever and magic and you know and fun little gags mason oh yeah sure sure sure but i think also i love the implication and it really is only an implication that that's all about the implication i think so that the fairy godmother
Starting point is 00:07:01 and her involvement in princess fiona's curse it seems to me as if she set this entire thing up as just one big layup for her son. Like, from the get-go. Played by notorious ladies' man Rupert Everett. My goodness. Girls, take a number and get in line. Look out. Here he comes.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Great cast. Tremendous cast. Terrific, right? I mean, we got... Jennifer Saunders? We got Jennifer Saunders we got Jennifer Saunders as the fairy godmother has a couple of really
Starting point is 00:07:27 great musical numbers as well I thought quite restrained though I would have liked her to go like full abfab okay right like too many white wines
Starting point is 00:07:35 and too much insanity but there you go Rupert Everett we mentioned who is great Julie Andrews is the queen and of course
Starting point is 00:07:42 Mr John Cleese as the king, a former legend who's now just out of touch and mad at everything. How'd they get that performance out of his hands? How'd they do it? No, just kidding. He's all right, mostly. He's mostly fine.
Starting point is 00:07:55 He's mostly all right. It's a shame he died in 2011. Now, you've probably heard me talk about how there's so many Shrek theories, Mason. Oh, yes. You've probably heard that in the previous video. Oh, I've heard about that, yeah. Yeah. So here's a couple for you.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Okay. Or just one specifically. Shreeries? Yeah, okay. Okay, great. So I think Princess Fiona is maybe terrible. Go on. As a person.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Okay. Not like, she's got a heart of gold and all that, et cetera and so forth. Okay. Believe in yourself and true beauty is whatever, et cetera, Mason. Okay, where are we going with this though? so forth. Okay. Believe in yourself and true beauty is whatever, et cetera, Mason. Okay, where are we going with this, though? All right. Okay, there's a moment at the start where she throws the Little Mermaid into a pack of sharks.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Oh, yeah. Right? Yeah. And it's a feeding frenzy. Yes. Which, quite frankly, I don't have a problem with. She throws a mermaid who is legally distinct from the Little Mermaid. That's true, actually.
Starting point is 00:08:39 To some sharks. Yeah, you're right. Which is fine. She's not branded. It's fine. But have you heard the cannibal theory, Mason? No. I mean, again, Shrek did eat a lot of eyeballs in the previous movie.
Starting point is 00:08:51 That's true, yeah. But this comes from Freudster, a person on Reddit. Okay. Which, you know, could go any number of ways. Like Sigmund Freud? Yeah, sure. Like an AI of Sigmund Freud? Yeah, like an AI of Sigmund Freud.
Starting point is 00:09:03 And he's like, oh, you want to have sex with your mum, et cetera, bleep bloop, Mason. So in the first Shrek movie, the dragon has a cookbook called Nightly Treats, right? And the theory is that the dragon is not only cooking the knights for herself, but also for Princess Fiona, because she doesn't have any food, it seems. Maybe she's got a magic whatever, but I didn't see a magic whatever, Mason. I didn't see a magic whatever either. I just saw a bunch of dead knights in a big cookbook. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Now, you might also be like, well, the knights brought horses with them also. So she simply ate the horses, sure. But the horses, as you see at the beginning, they never cross the bridge. They're all on the other side. Huh. Now, the other side of this is okay it could be said that maybe she's only eating humans when she's in ogre form which technically doesn't make her accountable so all of this is fine seems uh so anyway it's just just something to add and think
Starting point is 00:09:57 about well if we're going to add moral quandaries one that i picked up on i think is that in order to storm the castle at far far away to reunite Shrek and Fiona, the good guys, the good guys, as you might call them, they go to the muffin man at Drury Lane and they have him create a living being, Mongo.
Starting point is 00:10:18 A little reference to Mongo from Blazing Saddles, I guess. A childlike entity, but still a sentient being that they send to his death. They know he's going to be killed they don't know that necessarily they know he's
Starting point is 00:10:29 going to be killed and they lure him in with little treats they're like look at the little horsey you can eat that and then he's killed and look
Starting point is 00:10:38 technically he's not killed because of the end he never comes back you see him singing along at the end but he's doomed under there because he's a wet cookie underwater.
Starting point is 00:10:46 You can't retrieve a wet cookie from underwater. He'll fall to bits. It's like trying to retrieve the Titanic at this point. Pointless. Right? Pointless because who cares? Yeah. Anyway, monsters is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Yeah. They're worse than the people they're trying to defeat. I don't disagree. I mean, that character arc of that giant freak. I love it. It's really sad. Yeah. Like he gets his heroic moments and he comes into his own,
Starting point is 00:11:08 then his arms fall off and he falls to his death, and the little gingerbread man's like, no. It is like, be good as he dies. It's really sad, Mason. That's what I'm saying. And they knew. They knew. They probably knew.
Starting point is 00:11:21 It's like D-Day for that man. Gingerbread man. They probably knew. It's like D-Day for that man. Gingerbread man. Mason, references. Then current but today dated references. What do you think? I'm excited for it. Lord of the Rings. Love it.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Spider-Man upside down kiss. Lord of the Rings is still current. People would get that. No, yeah, that's fair. Mission Impossible, Mason. Oh, that one's dated. O.J. Simpson's car chase mason cocaine mason wow well that never goes out of style
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Starting point is 00:13:08 a bit broader, like you said, than the first one. I think they were lighter, but also I feel, I don't know, I felt like the Mission Impossible sequence felt extremely dated. I don't know why, because that first movie's a classic. Yeah. And they still do it in things, right? No. Don't they? I mean, probably they do it every year at the MTV Movie Awards. It's just... And they still do it in things, right? No. Don't they?
Starting point is 00:13:25 I mean, probably they do it every year at the MTV Movie Awards. It's just tradition at this point. Yeah, absolutely. Now, in terms of animation, I mean, we could talk to death about how it's such an improvement on the previous movie. Again, not that the previous one looks bad, but we'll talk about budget and how that relates to this, but there's so much detail in the world and everything's more vibrant
Starting point is 00:13:43 and all the characters are more animated and there are more of them in general, right? Sure. For example. More is better. I agree. More is always better. And I think we're going to find that in Shrek the third, Mason. I think you'll find, Mason.
Starting point is 00:13:54 I think you'll find. I think you'll find. I'm not being facetious, Mason. I think you'll find. But Shrek's face, though, it's so expressive because apparently he had 218 working muscles in it. But that's not what I want to talk about in regards to it. You want to talk about the hair, don't you?
Starting point is 00:14:06 Well, I want to talk about handsome Shrek. Okay. And I want to debate Mason. The thing about handsome Shrek is he's completely unique in the world because there are only two types of men in the Shrek universe. There's weedy little Lord Fauntleroy types who have funny little mustaches and they're all squished down. And there's enormous goons.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Like just hairless, personality-free goons. He's the only one who's like a manly man who has an expressive face. Yeah, that's fair. That makes a really good point. But here's the thing, though. Is he handsome? Because I don't know if he is. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:41 He's kind of like bulbous. Tell you what, let's get all the ladies who are waiting in line for rupert everett we'll ask their opinion that's a great point yeah but i've seen him like photoshop with a beard okay and i think that adds a lot to it but i just think in general yeah maybe not as handsome as everybody thinks he is but again universe of freaks all the men are like you know they've got beautiful hair and they're and they're sullen and awful or they're horrible little creeps or whatever. So I guess in this universe, this is handsome? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I'm just not convinced, Mason. Maybe it's just the novelty. I think it's the smell as well. People are like, this guy smells good. Because normal Shrek, you know, I don't think is completely hideous. He just would smell terrible. Oh, you think the magic made human Shrek smell really good? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Pheromones and whatnot also. Just thought of that. Right, right, right. I also found it really unfair that why couldn't Donkey just stay as a sexy horse? You know? He could have kissed his true love. Sorry, what kind of horse? A sexy horse, Mason.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I didn't misspeak. He is a sexy horse. That's not me thinking he's sexy. Okay. But he says it himself also. I guess that's okay then. Yeah. But if he had have kissed the dragon, he could have stayed sexy.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And yet he was robbed of it, Mason. That's true. Not fair. Couldn't they just get another one of those potions? Yeah, but probably. Whatever. But the fairy godmother was killed, remember? Didn't she have a backup or something?
Starting point is 00:15:58 Also, she's not killed. She's in the next movie. Ah. Which I don't like quite frankly. Case closed then. Case closed. I rest my case anyway i want to talk more about the dragon in a bit but go on you know what i like about donkey yeah and i
Starting point is 00:16:10 didn't mention in the last uh video is it how sexy he is no it's that he's just like a little corgi like he behaves like a corgi yeah he's animated like a dog you're 100 right yeah he's not animated like a donkey they took a dog and they went let's do that. But also a fact that I learned is that they brought in a wig maker. Yeah. To ensure that, like a real life one, to ensure that all the hair looks as realistic as possible. Great hair, right? Great hair. He's got a little hairnet under his whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Yeah. That's fun. Just fun little gags, Mason. Now, do you want to know about the original Shrek 2? Oh, okay, sure. Here we go. So, according to Andrew Adamson, who's the director on this, John Lithgow would have originally reprised his role as Lord Farquaad
Starting point is 00:16:50 and he would redeem himself at the end, saving Shrek from the fairy godmother. Fiona would also accept Shrek's offer to remain human and kiss him before midnight and Harold would not get turned into a frog. Something to think about. Isn't it though? How do you feel about regular staying as a woman, Fiona? She couldn't eat as many people, I'd imagine. It's true, she'd have to get used to human food.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Maybe that's why she was like, you know what, I want to be an ogre, because I just want to be my true self. True self. I'm going to eat so many people. No, I mean, that goes against the message of the movie. Exactly, yeah. She could have become a serial killer in Shrek 3. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Shrek real, no, nothing. Sorry. have become a serial killer in Shrek 3. Yeah. Shrek reel. No, nothing. Sorry. I thought I had something then. I didn't. It's okay. Shrek screenwriters. These aren't professional or anything.
Starting point is 00:17:33 No, no, no. These are just like workshopping for fun. Shrek screenwriters Tony Rossio and Ted Elliott opted out of this movie over creative differences but still remained on the project as consultants. But many of the elements that they were going to put into the movie... Wait, wait, wait. How do you stay off as a screenwriter but you stay on as a consultant?
Starting point is 00:17:51 Just Statler and Waldorf. I don't like this version. No, I don't like that. No, I wouldn't have done that. What would you have done? Not telling. Because I'm not the screenwriter anymore. Not telling.
Starting point is 00:18:06 But many of the elements were actually reused for Shrek, the Ghost of Lord Farquaad, also known as Shrek 4D. Oh, but that's not Shrek 4. No, that's a 3D-based ride at Universal Studios. Ah. I mean, if they called it Shrek 2D, as an experience, I can't imagine a lot of people would be very interested in that, Mason. Anyways, it's green trivia time.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Bearing in mind that it's called green trivia not because of the Shrek thing. But for another reason that we've forgotten. And the guy will be yelling Rodney, but he's in a swamp and that's unrelated. That's also unrelated, correct? Yep. Mason, more bonus stuff. So the Fairy Godmother's factory, some workers you see are putting... Because remember the small boner in the first movie?
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah. You remember? Not really. Now you remember. I remember you talking about it. Some workers you see are putting, because remember the small boner in the first movie? You remember? Not really. Now you remember. I remember you talking about it. Everyone's talking about it. It's not just me, Mason. You see some potion bottles that are conveyed about at one point,
Starting point is 00:18:59 and one of them is marked Viagra. It's a plant. Not bad, I like that. Which is for boners, which everybody's talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So originally, Dragon from Shrek was to have a major role and she would have turned into a pegasus when Donkey drank the potion. Also, apparently that does happen off screen. Like, that is confirmed.
Starting point is 00:19:17 That pregnant dragon was changed into a pegasus very late in the day during pregnancy, which, I mean mean what does that do to you? Right? Good lord. It's like drinking while you're pregnant. Exactly. You can have some freak babies.
Starting point is 00:19:29 You can have some freak and she did. Yeah. I mean that would have happened anyway but you know. Now an initial story concept was to have Fiona's father
Starting point is 00:19:36 King Harold appear nude throughout the movie as an Just cause. No no the Emperor's new clothes situation.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I see. I think that would have been terrific. Just the whole time he emperor's new clothes situation. I see. I think that would have been terrific. Just the whole time he's convinced he's wearing some finery. Okay. Yes, Mason. The part where Prince Charming tricks Fiona into thinking he's Shrek. I found these four bits of trivia on IMDB.
Starting point is 00:19:55 So they're probably not true. Yeah. Okay. Or maybe they are. Or somebody's maybe a really big fan of one particular property. Let's go. Let's find out. But like a fairy tale, it's not what's actually true.
Starting point is 00:20:04 It's what you reckon. Yeah, and you can be ugly, I guess. The part where Prince Charming tricks Fiona into thinking he's Shrek references Gilligan's Island, Will the Real Mr Howe Please Stand Up? That's one. The part where Prince Charming tricks Fiona into thinking he's Shrek also references Gilligan's Island's
Starting point is 00:20:19 Gilligan vs Gilligan. The part where Prince Charming tricks Fiona into thinking he's Shrek also references Gilligan's Island's All About Eva. The scene when Fiona looks into the mirror and sees her former human self also references Gilligan's Island's Hair Today Gone Tomorrow. These are just generic tropes in a movie. This isn't all Gilligan's Island related. Who did this?
Starting point is 00:20:42 I don't think anything's referenced Gilligan's Island since like a week after the series Gilligan's Island related. Who did this? I don't think anything's referenced Gilligan's Island since like a week after the series Gilligan's Island ended. I think they did it in The Simpsons. And it was Gilligan goes back to Gilligan's Island that one time. There was that time, wasn't there? And the time the Harlem Globetrotters were there. That was fun, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:20:56 I have seen that. I remember watching that as a kid in a midday movie and just being like, maybe TV's not good. Maybe I've been led astray. Maybe I'm going to go and burn down the offices of Channel 9. Mason Box Office. This scored the biggest opening ever for an animated movie, topping Finding Nemo.
Starting point is 00:21:14 It had a budget of $150 million and it made $928.7 million. Incredible, Mason. This is still one of the biggest animated movies of all time. I mean, it's been surpassed by like Minions and whatever since but I don't think I don't think you against Minions
Starting point is 00:21:30 nothing had a chance it's true I don't think you understand how big this was Mason I don't think you get it no I get it also this is how big it was this became the second movie
Starting point is 00:21:40 in Australian cinema history to gross more than 50 million dollars Titanic was the first that's right. That's the state of our film industry, everybody. The states we're in over here. Now, I guess my question is to you and everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Did you have a Shreckingly good time? I think I did have a Shreckingly good time. Was it better than the first Shrek? I think it was about the same. Well, that's good though, isn't it? I think so, yeah. That's a good time. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I was expecting a rapid decline. Yeah. And here we are. You should have put a pin in that, Moby good though, isn't it? I think so, yeah. That's a good time. Yeah, yeah. I was expecting a rapid decline. Yeah. And here we are. You should have put a pin in that, Moby. Oh, no. Just in case you go to Universal Studios and you go on the 4D experience, I can't imagine it would be anything like this movie. That's what I'm referring to, Mason.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Anyways, we'll be back. Great. To talk Shrek the Third, the movie that came three years after. And some people say is terrible. Some people like you? Yeah. But I haven't watched it in a while. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:32 So it could improve somehow. Yeah, it could improve somehow. Maybe my mindset has changed. You know, I grow, I evolve. I'm a normal person. I look at a thing and then I learn new information and I go, there's new information. And I recognize that in my heart.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I change, Mason. You've never changed. I'm changing all the time. You still eat eyeballs in the swamp. I've seen you do it. That's not strictly true. I eat it in bed. There we go.
Starting point is 00:22:55 You eat it over the sink because you have kids to help. That's right. Anyways, if you do want to say that early, and of course you do, Mason. Absolutely. The movie, I mean, you can just watch it, but I'm talking about specifically the episode we're going to do on it for caravan of garbage if you head over to big sandwich.co when ben and lawrence finish the edit they go up there early and in addition to that that's not the only thing there it's all ad free there's bonus podcasts there's movie commentaries our podcast the weekly planet where we talk movies and comics and tv shows that comes
Starting point is 00:23:22 out there a day early on Sunday as opposed to Monday. Check it out if you are so inclined. Please do. Wow Mason. A lot of stuff over there. So much stuff. There's a huge back
Starting point is 00:23:30 catalogue. It's actually it's insulting how much stuff is on there. That's exactly right and like a wonderful fairy tale all timeless. None of it's dated at
Starting point is 00:23:39 all. Agreed. Completely agree. Alright thanks everybody. Grab that Shrek you guys we'll see you next week. You gonna do that even
Starting point is 00:23:44 when Shrek finishes? Maybe who's to say. I think we should build law just more impenetrable references i think so too yeah i think that's great people enjoy that you know i don't know what happened to blue harvest i guess i'm not doing it at the moment yeah it's just when we run out of enthusiasm for it okay bye as women our life stages come with unique risk factors, like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause, causing the risk of heart disease to go up.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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