The Weekly Planet - Skyfall - Caravan of Garbage

Episode Date: September 30, 2021

Skyfall is considered by many to be the pinnacle of Daniel Craig James Bond era. Blending some of the grittiness and heavy hitting action of Casino Royale with bits and pieces from the James Bond of o...ld with the inclusion of Q, gadgets and quips it strikes a great balance between both the new and old. But some people think it's dumb and just The Dark Knight again. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage review!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/EfSpH5MxjDEHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-s...The Weekly Planet iTunes ►

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Starting point is 00:00:42 Visit heartandstroke.ca. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravan of Garbage, where we're on a bit of a bloody, I'll say that again, where we're on a bit of a bloody Bond-a-thon, aren't we Mason? You better believe it. It's a Bond-bananza. Bond-nanza? Bond-nanza, correct.
Starting point is 00:01:07 There we go. That was my favourite show growing up, Bond-nanza. Explain the premise of Bond-nanza, please. They live on a ranch. Uh-huh. Who's they? Bond and his family. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:01:20 So his parents? Yep. This is, it's a prequel. Okay, great. And they raise cattle. They do a lot of skiing. They strangle the waitstaff every now and then. Terrific.
Starting point is 00:01:31 You know? Kincaid is there? Kincaid is there. We'll talk about him later, I think. We definitely will. And what a massive waist he is. No, I like him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:41 First of all, leave a like if you could. We're of course up to Skyfall. A movie which is the biggest Bond movie of all, leave a like if you could. We're, of course, up to Skyfall, a movie which is the biggest Bond movie of all time. I quite enjoy it as like a dumb, fun, amazing looking Roger Deakins spectacle. But you're like, hmm, I don't know about all of that. Is that right? That's exactly what I said. When we first watched it in cinemas, you said the thing that you said that I've already forgotten.
Starting point is 00:02:06 And I said that thing, which was, hmm, I don't know about that. I don't know. I think for a lot of people of the modern Bond movies, Skyfall is a lot of people's favourites. And I think maybe it's because it sort of brought back in a lot of the kind of stylistic tropes of Bond. Like it gave him back his classic Aston Martin with the gadgets in it, and it gave him back his little Wolfer PPK. And it feels more like quippy
Starting point is 00:02:28 and there's more lines given to the Bond girls, like pick up lines and stuff like that. So it feels more like a classic Connery, Roger Moore kind of Bond. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I don't think it's that great. Yeah, no, I can understand that. I think it's stylish, certainly.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Yeah. And I like everybody involved, which we'll get to. But I just, I'll say my opinion till the end, I think, James. Just till the very end? Very end. So you're just going to be silent until then? Yep. You do your thing and then I'll be like, it's bad.
Starting point is 00:02:59 It's bad, I reckon. Actually, I didn't like it. So first of all, I think it's got a terrific opening. I guess the one complaint is that it doesn't look like he's riding that bike at all. Which is fine, whatever. Which is odd because in a lot of instances, somebody is riding the bike. Somebody must be. There is definitely some real bike stunt riders riding across those narrow rooftops and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Just a real rat-a-tat across the tiles. But whenever it cuts to Bond, he's in Pinewood Studios, which is where he was born to be. That's right. And born to run, or ride, in this case. But I think the whole thing, the best thing a James Bond opening sequence can do is kind of escalate and go from set piece to set piece.
Starting point is 00:03:39 You're strangling a man in a sink. You're strangling a man in a bathtub. You're strangling a man in an Olympic-sized swimming pool. Exactly. And just little moments like when he jumps across the trade and he adjusts the cuffs.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I hated that. He takes the time, Mason. I know it's supposed to be. He takes the time, Mason. It's for us, the audience. Roger Moore would do that. I don't think Daniel Craig would do that.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Can we take a moment in this to discuss finally putting to rest the idea that James Bond take a moment in this yeah to discuss finally putting to rest the idea that james bond is a code name yeah it's uh and and it's it's different men who are taking on the code name of james bond let's do it right now yeah sure well you see you see his parents gravestones yeah this movie so the the the ongoing uh internet theory of course is that uh uh james bond is not actually the the man we see on screen's birth name uh but it's a code name you take on when you become 007 which is why they often look different and act different often often every time yeah but obviously this is this is definitively put to bed yeah in
Starting point is 00:04:37 this because we go to skyfall the ancestral home of the bonds and we see their gravestones and unless he's like real sad about somebody else's parents. Could be a coincidence. Could be a coincidence. Just to be clear, it has also previously been put to bed because George Lazenby Bond gets married to Tracy. Yeah. And then Roger Moore James Bond goes to Tracy's grave
Starting point is 00:04:57 at the start of For Your Eyes Only. It would be weird if he visited the grave of a guy who presumably died and he replaced his wife. I mean, maybe we're overthinking it. Maybe there's a clause in their contract. You have to visit the previous guy's wife and parents' graves. I don't know. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I want to talk more about how the other Bonds might have been involved in this towards the end. But one thing I also don't like about this movie is how they just demote Moneypenny. And it seems to be just in service of she works on a desk she works on a desk in other movies so that's where we're gonna put her you know i just think it's kind of like they show her as being more than capable and it's just at the end it's just like that's what she does you know what i mean she gets a little bit of a shootout and a
Starting point is 00:05:40 bit of an action sequence every now and again i think perhaps those elements that you don't like there are what other people did like. They're like, we're putting all the classic pieces back in. We're giving, you know, a money penny at the desk and we're giving you a, you know, a strong stoic M who wears a nice pinstripe suit and sits behind a desk and is like, Bond, here's a mission, Bond. And he goes, fine.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Do I get to strangle anyone? Yes. Great, let's go. I also think that it wasn't money penny's fault. It was to strangle anyone? Yes. Great. Let's go. I also think that it wasn't Moneypenny's fault. It was demanded that she take the shot. Yeah. Bond could have pivoted so he wasn't facing, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:13 He could have pivoted to a different career. That's right. He could have pivoted to YouTube. But he didn't. What up, dogs? It's your boy, JD. JB, I mean. The D is short for dynamite.
Starting point is 00:06:23 But, you know, you're absolutely right. Moneypenny was commanded to take the shot. It's not her fault she's a bad shot. I guess so. Why'd they put her out in the field? Well, he's not great, is he? He'd let it get to that point. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:35 You know? And also a great point. There's a moment in this movie where it's revealed to Bond while he thinks he's capable of going out into the field, he failed all his tests. And you watch the montage of him failing the test and you're like, did you think you passed any of those? Do you really?
Starting point is 00:06:52 You had to walk up to that target and like, you had to shoot it like from a foot away and you still missed. Come on. Imagine having that much confidence in yourself. Just be like, yeah, I nailed that I reckon. I reckon I know that. What do you think of the song Skyfall? It's been out in the zeitgeist for so long now.
Starting point is 00:07:11 It's kind of, it feels old and worn. It feels so long since we've had a Bond movie. I went, gosh, remember when Adele was a thing? Yeah. She's still a thing. She's still a thing. Yeah. But I think it's a great song.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I think it does, like a lot of things you mentioned, it's a callback, you know what I mean? It does feel like your Bond songs of old. Whereas the last song in Quantum, they tried to kind of replicate what they did in Casino Royale and it didn't quite make them in the trick and the something and the what, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Theme song to Bond and Anza. Yeah, that's right. Of course you would know that. But it's something I do enjoy. I enjoy his idea of retirement, which is just being in incredible shape despite not being able to do anything anymore, I guess. And it's just pills and scorpion drinking games.
Starting point is 00:07:58 You know? Yeah. Weird, weird thing to do. Especially for, you know, a stoic British man. Yeah. But, you know, I'm into it. Like, I think also he's so messed up that he doesn't really know what to do. Like, if he has spare time, he's like, I don't really video game.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And I guess I could vlog. Sure, yeah. I could get a, what's the thing you like? The thing, the cabinet. An arcade cabinet. Yeah, I could get an arcade cabinet. I could get a, what's the one? What's the one you wanted? Retro. The cabinet. An arcade cabinet? Yeah, I could get an arcade cabinet. I could get a... What's the one?
Starting point is 00:08:26 What's the one you wanted? Retro Pie? No, the one with the wheel. Oh, I didn't order it. Yeah, but what could you have gotten? What's it called? It's like an arcade cabinet. What's it called, though?
Starting point is 00:08:35 Driving cabinet? No, the thing. What's the game? The Sega game that everybody loves. Daytona USA? Daytona USA. He could have got Daytona USA. All of that's going in the Extended.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Both of us going, what? What? What do you mean? Except it's called Aston Martin, lovely ride around the countryside. So we get also the return in a big way, though we have seen glimpses of it in these movies before, the modern ones, of MI6. And I like it for two reasons.
Starting point is 00:09:08 For one, they reintroduce, you know, Q and gadgets, sort of, I guess. It's a gun and a radio or whatever. But it also highlights how wildly incompetent MI6 is, which also might be accurate to real life. Because there's a moment they're just like, oh, we found this computer. What should we do with it? Just plug it into everything. Let's see what happens. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:09:28 This is a map and a virus? Oh, no. We thought it was just a map, so we gave it to all our friends. I put it on all your computers. But I remember you showing me this incredible article about the real-life spy agencies of England. Yeah. And they might not be good.
Starting point is 00:09:46 They might have spent the last hundred years just chasing ghosts they invented just to justify their own budgets. Can you imagine a government agency doing that? I can't imagine such a thing, Mason. But I do have, obviously the plot of this movie revolves around Silver.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Oh, your favourite. And he wants to get revenge against uh m for abandoning him abandoning him all those years ago in hong kong yeah uh so i have his plan here i've broken it down into about 20 odd easy steps so this is his plan okay that has to do i need to be taking notes i mean i already have notes here but if you could also take notes okay excellent okay so his plan is for people who haven't seen this movie, his plan is he wants to get revenge on M. So he hires an assassin to steal a list of NATO agents. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:31 He gets this assassin to shoot Bond but not kill him using a bullet specifically that would identify the assassin because only three assassins in the world use these bullets. Great signature. Why wouldn't you? Yeah, but like it's three. So they could have picked a different one. But Bond did see him.
Starting point is 00:10:47 See him with his, I mean, he fought very close. He was the only guy also on the top of the train. Good point. So Silva would have to assume there is enough bullet fragments remaining in Bond that he could take them out, put them through analysis, and enable Bond to track him to Shanghai. Yes. Silva has to not pay the assassin with money
Starting point is 00:11:05 but with a casino chip that he'll keep in his briefcase knowing that Bond is still fit enough to kill the assassin and find the chip. Bond will go to the casino, be confronted by thugs that have been told to kill him but Silver knows aren't quite enough, aren't quite good enough to do so or are receiving
Starting point is 00:11:21 a clue to his next destination which is Silver's boat. Yep. He has to get on the boat, destination, which is Silver's boat. He has to get on the boat. The boat goes to Silver's island. He has to hand Bond a gun and know that Bond won't immediately kill him with it, but will kill everybody else and lead MI6 to the island. He needs to get captured and brought into MI6
Starting point is 00:11:37 headquarters, which is now in the subway because he previously hacked the MI6 mainframe and blew up the previous headquarters and knew that their protocols was to take the headquarters into the subway. I love that subway headquarters. I love the look. It looks great. He knows that MI6 will attempt to access his computer while it's connected to the network
Starting point is 00:11:53 and unlock all the doors in MI6 headquarters, enabling him to escape into the subway. His plan is to then put on a police uniform, run from Bond, who doesn't shoot him, despite a number of opportunities to do so. He then plans to meet up with a couple of his buddies, also wearing police uniform, run from Bond, who doesn't shoot him despite a number of opportunities to do so. He then plans to meet up with a couple of his buddies, also wearing police uniforms, walk into a parliamentary inquiry that M is attending, and then just sort of fire indiscriminately for a bit and then run away.
Starting point is 00:12:16 That was his plan. He's had years for this. That's the plan, is it? Yeah. Look, he's obviously- Because he could have just skipped all the other stuff. Yeah. He could have just skipped all the other stuff yeah he could have just just waited for m to be in the street and shoot her yeah i know he wants
Starting point is 00:12:29 i know he wants delicious revenge but most of this irrelevant yeah no you're right but the reason all this is in here why is because because in the dark nights 2008 the joker had a similar plan including getting captured and that was all part of his plan. And they just went, pretty good. Let's have an oddly dressed, facially scarred man who's mentally damaged and he wants revenge because of a system that's failed him. Exactly, yeah. And they're like, let's just do that because we're the Bond franchise.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I have a quote here, Mason. It's from director Sam Mendes who says, In terms of what Nolan achieved, specifically The Dark Knight, the second movie, what it achieved, which is something exceptional, it was a game changer for everybody. Curious. What Nolan proved was that you can make a huge movie that is thrilling and entertaining and has a lot to say about the world we live in,
Starting point is 00:13:25 even if, in the case of The Dark Knight, it's not even set in our world. That did help give me the confidence to take this movie in a direction that, without The Dark Knight, might not have been possible. Because I couldn't have done The Dark Knight. There you go. So, no, I don't think any of that is a coincidence. But what a fun, fun man.
Starting point is 00:13:43 What a fun villain. What do you think of him? I like him. I think he's weird. I like him. So you do like him, you don't like him. I like how weird he is.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I like how weird he is. The facial deformities, like everything about him, his little tics, the way that it upset everybody that it implied that James Bond might be bisexual. I enjoyed that a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Imagine if that happened now. I mean, I know people are upset then, but just like, James Bond, go too woke. Too woke, go broke. James Bond, feminism, you know? Yeah, emotional. Anyway, it just seems like he's having...
Starting point is 00:14:15 James Bond, more like James Blokes. Brackets, he's into them. Not on my watch. Not on my laser shooting watch. Absolutely not. But it just seems like he's having a lot of fun with it. I enjoy the idea that the whole inside of his head is just rotten to its core. It's probably a metaphor also.
Starting point is 00:14:33 You know what I mean? It's good. It's good. It is good. You know what else is good, Mason? What's that? And I know you can't wait to talk about it. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Is the car. The car situation. Okay. James Bond has his classic Aston Martin, which, of course, he acquired in the movie Casanova Rallal in a previous movie, and now we get to see that car again, and it's the same car. We both think that. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:14:55 It is a different car. I checked. What? This one's right-hand drive for driving on the streets of London, England, United Kingdom. Yep. And the other one was left-hand drive. But it's curious, isn't it, that there are two examples of a silver 1964, United Kingdom. Yep. And the other one was left-hand drive. But it's curious, isn't it,
Starting point is 00:15:05 that there are two examples of a silver 1964 Aston Martin. And he just happened to... What I feel probably happened is that in between his last adventure and this adventure, he's like, oh, yeah, I won that Aston Martin from that guy in whatever, Bahamas. And then he called up his. In whatever, yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I've got a lot of people in a lot of places. And he called up his lawyer and he's like, hey, can we get that car brought to England? And the guy's like, you mean that car that was owned by that murderous mobster that you won in an illegal poker game and then you murdered him? Can I get that to England for you? No, him can i get that to england for you no i can't get that to england for you also technically we own it because you used our money yeah so it's not your car idiot so i guess the idea was maybe he was just on the mi6 internet and he's like boy i really as women our life stages come with unique risk factors, like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause,
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Starting point is 00:17:16 Brings back gadgets. And it explodes. And it returns again. This car has been in so many movies. It's the same car. It's incredible. It's incredible how it keeps coming back. That, of course, brings us to the finale,
Starting point is 00:17:28 which is referred to many as, like, it's Home Alone. They've just done Home Alone, which I think is selling it short. Because Home Alone is also great, but I think this is great in a different way, but not dissimilar from the movie Home Alone. You know, I enjoy the fact that we get to see, like, King Cade, who, by the way, was initially supposed to be Sean Connery.
Starting point is 00:17:48 That's so obvious in a rewatch. Yeah, I know, right? He's like, welcome to Scotland, and he's like, back in my day, we did things differently. We strangled people while dressed as a Japanese man, et cetera. He's got all the classic lines that he says. But, God, I understand that they didn't want to do it because it would have been distracting or stunt casting or whatever,
Starting point is 00:18:08 but, man, it should have been Connery. Yeah, I completely agree. I mean, that's not even to say that he would have done it. No, that is also true. I've just got a quote here. Yeah, so Sam Mendes thought that if you put him in it, it would take you completely out of the movie because it's like, well, that guy's Bond, but Bond is also here.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Did you also hear the rumour that they were at one point going to make it a MI6 former agent retirement facility and they were going to bring them all back? Oh, wow. Did you ever hear that story? See, that's too much. Yeah. I mean, that would also confirm the theory, you know?
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah, I guess it would. In a way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But, man, look look honestly you you might enjoy the final home alone sequence but i thought it was just missing a little something it felt like because we're supposed to care about this kincaid guy yeah like albert finney the late great albert finney i think he did did very well but i think i don't you brought him in as a new character that's
Starting point is 00:18:59 supposed to be significant but we've never seen him in anything else we've never seen him in a flashback or anything to sort of connect us with a character. But if you just made it Connery. Remember the bit where he's like, I love you, Judi Dench. Yes. You're great. I have this scarf as a token of my feelings for you. He's like, James Bond ran under the house like a wounded dog,
Starting point is 00:19:18 and when he came back, he was the best man in the world. What do you think of that? Pretty good, I guess. Yeah, good. Pretty good. No, I enjoy it. I think it's the way that this movie you think of that? Pretty good, I guess. Yeah, good. Pretty good. No, I enjoy it. I think it's the way that this movie, like it starts, you know, like sleek and, you know, it's, you know, the bit where they're fighting in the high rise building or whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Neon, so modern. Yeah. And then the end, it's just like, look at this piece of shit house. And even though it's very nice and it's very antiquated and whatever, but just like everything's burning down and you fall into a lake and, you know, just Bond stuff. Just regular Bond stuff. Sure. Anyway, what I think this movie does do very well, though,
Starting point is 00:19:56 it gives Judi Dench her due. In all of the movies she's been in. Her Judi Dench. Thank you. She just gets a lot more to do. Due. Due. Judi Dench. That's right. There's more dialogue than she's been in. Her duty dench. Thank you. She just gets a lot more to do. Do you. Do you. Dedench.
Starting point is 00:20:06 That's right. There's more dialogue than she's ever had. No, I don't have anything for that. I get you. But I think it's terrific and, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:14 it's a nice send off for that character. Not just for these Craig ones, obviously, the Brosnan ones, which she was in prior. I think it's cool when she gets to fire a gun
Starting point is 00:20:24 a little bit, I think, maybe. Or scurry around. I'm firing a gun a little bit, she says. That's what she says in prior. I think it's cool when she gets to fire a gun a little bit, I think, maybe. I'm firing a gun a little bit, she says. That's what she says, yeah. Exactly. Also, her husband dies in the movie, like in between movies. She has a husband in like a previous movie, and then she's like, that's what my late husband used to say,
Starting point is 00:20:39 unless she was lying. She could have been. Maybe it was just some dude she picked up at the bar. Nice. Exactly. Yeah yeah hell yeah also i just want to say that uh injured bond is is my favorite bond like you can't just be judoing around the place you should do those wide grip pull-ups which by the way they're difficult i can do a few don't worry about it so then you get the moment where he's hanging from the elevator which normally in an action sequence it'd be like whatever but here it's like oh no we couldn't even do all those wide grip chin-ups
Starting point is 00:21:06 from earlier. And this is a very, very similar range of motion he'll need for this activity. Yeah. And it also culminates in – And then when Silver challenges him to a game of, you know, free word association, it's like, oh, no, he wasn't good at it earlier. Oh, no. He just said mean things about Judi Dench.
Starting point is 00:21:23 But – and then it also – that moment, you know, where he's failing and he's not as strong or good as he used to be, it culminates in him accidentally killing a man, which, you know, he loves killing people, but he doesn't like doing it if it doesn't happen exactly how he would have wanted it to happen. That's true, yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:40 Because then he can't do a quip. He can't do a quip. Be like, I'm going to drop you, you son of a bitch. This is a Bond-nanza. This is a Bond-nanza. This is a Bond-nanza. I like it. It's a silly movie. And that's what I like about it.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Because most of the Bond movies, they're very silly. They are very silly. That's true. Anyway, it's time for License to Trivia. Okay, I'm ready. Yeah. So a precursor to this movie. I don't know if you saw this.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Would you say it's a Licence to Trivia Bondmanza? I would say that. Terrific. We saw James Bond escort the Queen to the 2020 Olympics. Oh, yeah, that's right. I do remember that, yeah. Did they both parachute out of a cargo plane or something? Yeah, or at least she did.
Starting point is 00:22:22 But I have utter disdain for anything royal. I just think they're a pack of pointless, out-of-touch, inbred dimwits. So says I. But it's fun. It's fun, right? Sure. Tons of fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I mean, why do they exist? Oh, my ancestors killed some people and we own this land, and now I'm just in charge of some things. Can you give up some of your land? No. And also I own all the swans. Okay, I guess. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:22:49 And the corgis. And the corgis. I don't know. Pointless. Some of them don't sweat. I don't know if you're aware of that. Oh, that's right. Some of them don't sweat.
Starting point is 00:22:56 The pedophile one doesn't sweat. Allegedly, he doesn't sweat. He is a pedophile. Allegedly. Some of this is coming out. Some to all of this is being removed uh so also 85 suits were made would love to do that not sweat not the pedophile thing probably so i know you'd love this 85 suits were made for the opening chase alone because 85 of
Starting point is 00:23:19 them bloody ripped down the middle because they're too skinny little skinny little suits they're ridiculous this is the one this this hits two skinny little skinny little suits. They're ridiculous. This is the one. This hits peak ridiculous little skinny suit. Which is odd, James, because suit supplier Tom Ford is not known for his skinny suits. What's he known for? Big suits. Big lapels. Big time. Big wide boxy suits. No, big like a 1970s
Starting point is 00:23:38 sort of like a big with a lot of drama to it. Big bell bottom trousers. You'd think, James, upon watching this movie, that the suits were supplied by Tom Brown, a different fashion designer. I did think that. Provides a skinnier suit.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little drainpipe trousers. But no? No. Well, that's nuts. It's an inside joke sometimes when I think about it. He's like, everybody will think this is Tom Brown, but it's actually me, Tom Ford.
Starting point is 00:24:01 And Tom Brown's like, ooh! But it's little things like there's longer sleeves for when he's riding the bike so they don't like pull up awkwardly. Yeah, yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:24:12 you see his little wrists. Have we talked about that on this particular video series? Which is that? What is that? The hero suits. Maybe not specifically. His hero clothing.
Starting point is 00:24:20 In these movies, I would suggest probably this one and Spectre. He has two sets of wardrobe. He has his hero wardrobe when he's just standing, which is a size smaller than his regular wardrobe. It's funny, he's doing dramatic poses against a burning old house or whatever. But they're so small that he can't move in them.
Starting point is 00:24:41 So he has to have a second set of identical clothing that is a size bigger that he can actually do big jumps and big kicks in. He can do a jog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He could slide down one of those barriers in the London Underground. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Remember that bit where that train came in? He goes, you're a bloody train seaman. Here it comes. And Bond's like, fuck, this is a massive coincidence. Sure, yeah. He's absolutely got the timing right here. Like, I mean, statistically speaking, maybe he would have already been gone or I would be late.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah, very odd. The train would be late. Yeah, did he wait here for me? Can't trust the London Underground, you know what I mean? It's a pretty solid service. I mean, I've lived there for a bit. People complain about it. But compared to a lot of systems around the world,
Starting point is 00:25:19 including Australia's own, it's quite good. Is that exact dialogue from the movie? Yes, that's right. Kevin Spacey was offered the role of Raoul Silva but had to turn it down due to scheduling conflicts.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Good. Good. It's good, I think. That's lucky and good. Good stuff. Yeah. So are you familiar with Daniel Craig's
Starting point is 00:25:39 puffy hands in a certain scene of this movie? No, I don't think so. Okay, here we go. You know the bit where he goes to the casino? Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:46 With the chip that paid the assassin with? Yes. Because he didn't want to give him money. And it's part of Ralph Silver's plan to run into a hearing and shoot him. Yes. Like it's one cog. Yeah. And this is, you know, because obviously he wants Bond to nearly be killed by those thugs,
Starting point is 00:26:01 but then the thugs to be killed by those Komodo dragons. Yes, exactly. Well, Daniel Craig actually bought gloves in his own time and presumably his own money to use in that entire sequence. But the problem is... Human-looking, like human skin-looking gloves? No, like black leather gloves. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:18 But the problem is this movie introduced a weapon that is coded to his palm. That's right. And that is also integral to that scene because a bad guy picks it up and goes to shoot him and can't. So instead of reshooting the scene, which they couldn't do due to time constraints and money, they had to like CGI digitally repaint his hands, human flesh colour. His gloved hands. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Huh. Yeah. Just because Daniel Craig loves gloves. Why did they not pick that up at any point during filming? That's wild. Filming's hard. Yes. Huh. Yeah. Just because Daniel Craig loves gloves. Why did they not pick that up at any point during filming? That's wild. Filming's hard. I guess Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Just Hollywood. Pinewood. Exactly. Amazing. Did you know about the big controversy? Because he would know. Yeah. Because he would be, he would have the script, he would know that the gun only works if the,
Starting point is 00:27:03 but he insisted on wearing the gloves. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah, I agree. I'm going to go back and watch out for those puffy hands. It's not that noticeable. Why was he wearing gloves? Was it cold? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:10 It also might not even be true. But have you seen these puffy hands? Yeah, they're pretty puffy. Okay. But I don't know what his normal hands look like, so I'm not tracking them scene to scene. Have you heard about the big controversy though, Mason? I cannot wait to hear about it.
Starting point is 00:27:23 It's not that big a controversy, but $45 million US was accepted from Heineken to promote that brand in this movie and also outside of it. They even did that terrible ad. Do you remember the bit where he's on the boat? You probably see it. Let's show a clip. Yeah, Ben and Lawrence will put it in. We're doing this for free, Heineken.
Starting point is 00:27:44 That's right. We'll take $45 million though. I don't want any Heineken. It's not a clip. Yeah, Ben and Lawrence will put it in. We're doing this for free, Heineken. That's right. We'll take 45 million, though. I don't want any Heineken. It's not a great beer, but I want the money. Just to clarify. Traffic. But people complain because it's not very Bond-like that he drinks such American swill, Mason.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Sure. If it even is an American brand at this point. He'd drink a warm pint down at his local. Of piss. Of piss. Of human piss. Producer Michael G. Wilson and Daniel Craig were like, these movies are expensive and just get over it.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Which I think is true. It's just like, it's product placement. They're in all of these. Just get over it. Yeah, I mean, if there's one franchise that you probably shouldn't be surprised they used product placement in, it is the Bond movies.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Exactly. And Daniel Craig told Rolling Stone magazine that he wanted this to be his third and final James Bond movie, saying, I've been trying to get out of this. I've been trying to get out of this from the very moment I got into it, but they won't let me go. Actual quote, real quote.
Starting point is 00:28:38 So there you go. So was he signed on for three or more? I've no idea. I guess. I don't know. But then they trapped him with money yeah heineken money probably all the free heineken he could drink oh it's fine it's fine it's totally fine most beers not great and this is one of those anyways let's talk box office mason okay again
Starting point is 00:28:58 skyfall became the biggest bond movie of all time and still is at $1.1 billion of return. That's a lot of money. I agree. Off a $200 million budget. So, you know, I think that's what they were going for with Spectre, which we will talk about next week. But that didn't make quite as much money and is a worse movie. Maybe those two things are related.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I don't know. We'll talk about it. Anyways, yeah, we will be back next week to talk about James Bond's Spectre. And I'm very excited to revisit this movie I didn't like when I saw it in cinemas.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Are you? Yeah, kind of. It's got a fun opening sequence. It does, that's true. It's got the Day of the Dead celebration. Yeah. It's good fun.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I love, you know what, I'm going to save it for next week. Okay, great. But if you do want to see that early, and you can, Mason. Yep. First of all,
Starting point is 00:29:44 you can be in the room when they're recorded. That's only for Mason. That's true. But for everybody else, if you've got to be. Or if you want to sponsor week. Okay, great. But if you do want to see that early, and you can, Mason. Yep. First of all, you can be in the room when they're recorded. That's only for Mason. That's true. But for everybody else, if you've got a- Or if you want to sponsor us. That's true. You've got $45 million burning all in your pocket.
Starting point is 00:29:52 You can sit in the room. You can sit in on one episode of this. But also, you can head over to BigSandwich.co, where if you do sign up, these go up a day early. Ben gets the edit done, and they fly up there in real time. Whoa. We also have bonus podcasts. We do movie commentaries.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Our podcast, The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows, that comes out a day early there if you are so inclined. But let's leave, Mason. What do you think of Skyfall, though, everyone? Pretty all right. I'm asking everyone. I know you already had your opinions. I didn't get to my big opinion.
Starting point is 00:30:25 What's your big opinion? It was okay. You know what? I enjoyed I very much enjoyed Ben Whishaw in the role of Q. I thought it was a good Q.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I mean, you know, they turned that character around. Yep. Played it against type a little bit. Also, he's the voice of Paddington.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yes, he is. Yeah. He replaced Colin Firth. Huh. Which is a who's a delightful man but that doesn't feel right
Starting point is 00:30:45 does it no he's an adult man he's an adult I wish I was a little boy yeah a little bear boy yeah
Starting point is 00:30:49 he's like 40 something but yeah he is alright goodbye everybody grab that gem guys we'll see you next week we'll see you next week see you next week
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