The Weekly Planet - Soldier - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

In between Blade Runner, original Blade Runner and Blade Runner 2049 there exists a movie positioned snugly in the middle, set in Ridley Scott's groundbreaking universe. 1998's Soldier, starring Kurt ...Russell and directed by Paul WS Anderson, was written by Blade Runner scribe David Webb Peoples and incorporates many elements from the 1982 original directed by Ridley Scott. It's mostly small visual cues and blink and you miss it easter eggs, but this is unmistakably supposed to take place after the origins events from 2019. None of it makes the movie better. Doesn't make it worse, though. But it's still all not very good. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage review!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's recapture the magic, James. A great easy. Time to do it. Now you might be like, why are we even looking at this movie? This movie isn't called Blade Runner in between the two good Blade Runner movies? And yet it is? It's not called that. It's called Soldier, the movie Soldier.
Starting point is 00:00:14 And it's also not set, oh, it is, time-wise, but not continuity-wise. But it's not set on Earth. I think you could say it's set continuity-wise in between Blade Runner movies, Mason. It slots in beautifully. I mean, it is mostly set in the year 2036-ish. Sure. Ish. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this was actually, uh, the idea for this came all the way back in the early 80s. That's the beginning of time. That's right. When David Webb Peoples... Yes. Go on. Who, uh, co-wrote Blade Runner had the idea for...
Starting point is 00:00:44 And directed a Spider-Man movie? And no, Mason, you're thinking of another guy with a webish name. Okay, because Spider-Man's always webbing people. All I'm saying is that that is true and also, you know, that's how they hire people in Hollywood. It's true. And we're disgusted by it. We are. That's nepotism? That's webitism? It's webitism. Thank you. So the original concept for this
Starting point is 00:01:05 was going to be something that was included in the original Blade Runner where a group of replicants were dumped and left for dead on an off-world colony. Okay, sure. And then this time around in the movie Soldier, that's sort of what we sort of get, sort of. Except it's one guy and then a bunch of other guys and one guy's sort of a replicant soul, but he's a regular guy. He's regular. But the replicants are after him. But they're not replicants. They're different guys. They're different men.
Starting point is 00:01:33 So, yeah, the idea for this came way back, please they were like, way back in the early 80s. Okay. And it struggled for a decade and a bit to get off the ground. Because it wasn't a full script. It was just a fragment. It was just an idea. No, no, it was a script floating around Hollywood that people thought were good, including Sylvester Stallone.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Just floating around in the air. Ew, what's that? Ugh. It's an incredible movie. It's not incredible. It's boring. It's not a great movie. Would you say it is boring?
Starting point is 00:01:59 I'm not going to say it's boring, Mason. You were nearly going to say it was boring before I cut you off, asking you whether or not it was boring. Well, I don't want to say if it was boring. If you said it was boring, I want a different opinion because us having the same opinion is boring. No. We've become like the director Paul W.S. Anderson.
Starting point is 00:02:14 We've made a thing that's boring. Why are you bringing up Paul W.S. Anderson? Because we had to suffer through, if I recall infinite works from his uvra. and the last preceding weeks and then this is another one of his and look I know he did make a good movie
Starting point is 00:02:33 or maybe several good movies he made event horizon he made event horizon it's a good movie he made event horizon while Kurt Russell was doing 18 months of getting buff for this oh yeah because everybody thought
Starting point is 00:02:44 this was a good script including Sylvester Stallone who was going to do it after first blood but he dropped out Schwarzenegger was going to do it after he did Commander but he dropped out and of course you can't You can't go from being
Starting point is 00:02:55 Commando to being a soldier. No, you definitely can't. That's a demotion of anything. Embarrassing. Embarrassing. Clint Eastwood liked this so much that he was going to both start and direct a version of this.
Starting point is 00:03:06 That's fascinating. It's fascinating because David Webb People's, director of Spider-Man. He also wrote Unforgiven. Because Clint Eastwood loves an old soldier who's got to learn to have a human heart. He's gravelly and he's, what's the word I'm looking for?
Starting point is 00:03:23 He's old man Logan. He's old man Logan and he's unforgiven He cannot be forgiven I won't forgive him for that time You don't have to forgive him Mason James I won't forgive him for that time That he walked around that chair And he accused the chair of a lot of war crimes
Starting point is 00:03:36 Or whatever he did remember he did that I remember that He should have accused the real man of the war crimes That he actually did Correct Yeah Ah man this though initially at least It has the aesthetic of a Paul W.S. Anderson movie
Starting point is 00:03:47 Steel rooms, dogs Savage Garden vibes All of those things This movie though it does not have anything even close to like the cinematic scope of Blade Runner. Just people running around. The main character they're supposed to be an elite soldier. He's been trained from birth to be the galaxy's greatest elite soldiers.
Starting point is 00:04:07 He's a little boy. You know what he does? He runs from left to right to shooting a gun, just straight ahead. No cover, no nothing. Don't need to do nothing if you look like Kurt Russell and you're Kurt Russell. And also your Kurt Russell's son, White Russell at one point. That's right. In a montage, Mason.
Starting point is 00:04:21 So yeah, the story of this is, in 1996, a bunch of special babies were born. All they were regular babies? Which is interesting because in a lot of movies like this, they start in the future. Yeah. But this movie starts, it presupposes that this secret project for creating these super soldiers from birth happened before the movie started. Yeah, absolutely. These kids were being raised on the Spice Girls. Yep.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Wait, when did the Spice Girls come out? About now, Mason. About now. Not now. About then, I should say. Yeah, about then, sure. Sure. Yeah. They were founded in 1994.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I knew it. Yeah. We both knew it. We knew it. Yeah. But there is a reason why it looks this way and we'll get into that. But do you know what this lacks the Blade Runner has? Heart.
Starting point is 00:05:04 The answer is everything. A script that's interesting. Everything. Just say everything. It's got a lot of things in it though. Like it's reminiscent of things. Yeah. Which is a nice way of saying it's derivative of a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:05:15 It's a hack movie by a hack guy. Whoa, he made several good movies maybe. It's been ripping off a bunch of stuff. Because it's like Universal Soldier. It's like Terminator 2, because it's about a stoic robot-like man who sort of learns the value of guns. I was going to say community and humanity, but guns is correct. He doesn't save the day at the end with community and humanity, does he? He doesn't go back to his vegetable garden to save humanity.
Starting point is 00:05:43 It's a little bit like Starship Troopers, I guess. Yeah. Just stuff like that. Which also came out before this end looks better. But there is, it feels like, even though there were many setbacks during the making of this, there's a lack of care I feel in this. There's a moment at the start where you see a group of young soldiers watching a bore get mauled by a dog. Yes. It's locked onto the kids and then it like dollies out.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And like several of the kids just fucking clock the camera. Yeah, right. And like Ridley Scott would never have let that slide. I mean, old Ridley. Current day. Original, Richard. Original. Ridley Scott would have never let that slide.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Original recipe, Ridley Scott would never have let that slide. David Finchie would never have let that slide. He would have killed one of the alien movies. He would have killed every one of those kids. Get me a fresh batch of kids he would have said. David Finchie would have raised actual child soldiers. But they were actors from birth to be in that movie. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So anyway, the main character of this Todd, he's a... Come on. He's... That's not one of the acceptable names for an action. hero character in the movies. It's John, Jack, it's Mr. The Terminator. It's something Spartan.
Starting point is 00:06:57 That'll do. Yeah, that'll work. Todd's the name of like a high school bully. Yeah. So anyway, he's on screen for 85% of the movie, but he says 104 words
Starting point is 00:07:07 and got a payday. We'll talk about it, but quite a lot. Initially, I thought this was going to be one of those characters that never speaks. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:14 But I don't, they've gotten the balance wrong. They've gotten the balance wrong because also... He should have either not talked at all or become a real Gabby Gertie. Yes. By the middle of it, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:25 It absolutely does not take advantage of how charismatic Kurt Russell is. It nullifies him completely. It doesn't endear you at all. I don't care about him. I don't care about any of the supporting cast. Stop staring at Connie Britt and Kurt Russell. Stop it. There's no, he's got an, like, one of the final battles is with a character who I guess is supposed to be his nemesis.
Starting point is 00:07:46 But basically what happens is these, he's one of these kids who's raised. up as a soldier, like that's his whole life, but then he discovers, at the ripe old age of 40, that he's going to, they're all getting replaced by like genetically engineered super soldiers who are even better. And then he has like this sort of gymnastics fight with him. Yeah, up the chains. Up the chains. Well, that's after there's a test of strength. Oh, yes. And then one of them's also doing weights and one's spinning in one of those gyro machines, which I feel like doesn't make any sense unless you're wearing a VR helmet.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Right. And then one of them shoots a. stationary ball and they're like, wow, 99%. I could do that. I've barely shot a gun and I could do that. Be able, could you do it 99%. Yes. Oh wow. All right. Okay, Mr. Super Soldier. Okay, Jean-Claude Van Damme or Dolph Lundgren in that movie or the multiple sequels.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I think there's five sequels. Five sequels. Running for a long time. Who cares? Wow. Look, I am excited for going up a chain fight, I guess. But then what happens is he is that Kurt Russell's character, He blinds this, stabs out this guy's eye. And then that guy sees his nemesis. But like, that guy has no personality.
Starting point is 00:08:56 No, man. Todd has no personality. It's just nothing. Yeah. It's, they have less of a rivalry than the T-800 and the T-1,000 in Terminator 2 who don't speak to each other at all. No, they talk on the phone. That's true. They do.
Starting point is 00:09:10 About Wolfie. They do. Oh my God. That's just deception, man. That's just A-I's talking A-I's. That doesn't even count. Yeah. So Jason Isaacs, yeah, he's wheeled in these new super.
Starting point is 00:09:20 soldiers with his little mustache and he's like, these are good actually, these are better. And they are in a way. Sure. Because they're stronger and faster and better. And they can do a thing 99%. I'd like to see Kurt Russell do that. But some people have theorised that Jason Isaac's soldiers are actually replicants. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Other people don't care at all. They don't think it matters. I would guess if you were to survey everyone on Earth, most people wouldn't care. 99. 99%. Minimum. So let's talk about the links to Blade Runner. So David Webb Peoples.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yes. He considers this a sidequel and there's hints to the world. We see a wrecked spinner. Though it's... Oh, in the junkyard. It's hard to spot. I would say that's a very... It was probably on set, but tenuous link at best.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Sure. But then the service record of Todd includes the Battle of Tanhauser Gate and the shoulder of Orion. Oh, very convenient. Mention. Paul W.S. Anderson agrees, though, and says that if Kurt Russell's character was to go to earth, he would have encountered Harrison Ford's Deckard.
Starting point is 00:10:23 What, just by coincidence. They would have ran into each other. Of all the people I've mentioned in the world, they would have just run into each other. There's a 99 chance they would have run into each other. I mean, that's probably true. I don't know statistics, but it's probably true. Also, this is a Warner Brothers production as well,
Starting point is 00:10:38 which means that I look forward to the impending copyright strikes on this. But that also skirts any legal ramifications of this being in the Blade running universe, which it isn't. I don't know if it does this. though, because I feel like probably Ridley Scott owns some share in Blade Runner and probably the estate of Philip K. Dick probably owns a share in it or something, so they could probably make a claim, and they should. On this video, they all should, everyone should.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It's already happened. Terrific. Yeah. Anyway, so Kurt Russell gets on the, he gets dumped on the very windy planet of Dune. Do you have questions about the logistics of a junk planet? Like, how to, why would they bother? Why would they, because this planet's not in Earth's solar system. It's out there, they've had to send, so they pick up junk from Earth,
Starting point is 00:11:22 and they have the technology to go at some percentage of the speed of light, maybe 99, to another solar system and just dump stuff there. If you have that technology, couldn't you just, just crush it into a cube? Yeah. The garbage and just leave it on Earth. Just shoot it into the sun. Put it into a lake. Put it in one of those can machines.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Yes. Mm-hmm. Take it to the plastic recycling. that they do at coal supermarket, or actually all they did was they just rented some warehouses, and they just dumped it all in the warehouses. They put like a billion plastic bags in a warehouse. All right, settle down Captain Planet.
Starting point is 00:11:59 We've all got problems with our coals do their recycling. All right, mate. So Kurt Russell ends up meeting up with a bunch of survivors, Mad Max style, and he tries to ingratiate himself into the community. He doesn't try at all. No, he stares at Connie Britton way too much. He tries to teach... But that's an intense stare that the ladies love.
Starting point is 00:12:18 They do love that. He has a Christmas trauma and a boxing trauma. And then he's outcast because he got beaten in a fight by Santa Claus. Is that why? Must have been. Yeah, okay. Muscular Santa Claus. Was he trying to take over from Tim Allen in the Santa Claus?
Starting point is 00:12:34 He would make a great Tim Allen in the Santa Claus. And Kurt Russell, of course, has played a Santa Claus. That's right. It's called Christmas on Netflix or whatever the fuck. Full title. So, yeah, so he's made an outcast. Even though he's teaching. the kid out of kill snakes.
Starting point is 00:12:50 That's right. And the parents don't like that. They don't like that. So he said, it's funny. Kurt Russell, what a waste. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:12:58 like, he's outcast and he's crying. And it's just ridiculous. And he's like, what's crying? He doesn't say that. No. But that's like the,
Starting point is 00:13:06 you know, the sense of it. You'd think some of the kids, just by the nature, by their very nature of being raised from birth to be soldiers would have cried at some point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:17 And the, and the, Jason Isaac would have said Well, we call that the We call that the weak source. Oh, yeah. You're doing weak source right now. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Gary Busey would also have said that because he's also here. He's in this. He's in this. He's very Starship Troopers in this. Yes, just like his son Jake Busey. Agreed. But then they bring him back to him. The exile is nothing.
Starting point is 00:13:38 They send him like 300 feet. And he cries in a little metal tube and then Sean Pertwee's like, come back so I can die. And then you can be. with my wife, Connie Britton. It's what I've always wanted, and certainly what you've always wanted.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And I suspect what my wife, Connie Britton, has always wanted. So apparently... I built this chair out of junk. I'll put it by our bed. Who's going to be sitting in that? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:05 It's me. I will be sitting in that chair. And I'll be dead. So we should talk about the environments of this film because it does feel like it's filmed in, on sound stages, for the most part. Yes. Which it is.
Starting point is 00:14:17 They should have filmed it in a junkyard. Agreed. Just constant tetanus scares every day on set. Well, it was intended to be like a classic western like Shane or the movie Unforgiven, where we couldn't forgive him. That's right. How could you forgive a man like that? Right.
Starting point is 00:14:31 So it was going to be filmed in wide open environments in existing locations as much as possible. But by the time Kurt Russell got all muscular and big. Kurt Ruscular? Kurt Ruscular. Thank you. The Aligno hurricane caused adverse weather conditions and just like made that impossible.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Oh damn. Do you remember El Nino? I do and everything went indoors. And Paul W.S. Anderson felt it compromised the look of the film and he cited the shots when Todd arrives on the planet and walks through the abandoned spaceship as an example of a kind of imagery I wanted to put on screen and get more of. This movie would have won.
Starting point is 00:15:07 99 benefited from just looking better. Just looking like anybody was in a real place ever? Totally. Absolutely. Agreed. I agree with you. And another terrible thing happened in this movie, Kurt Russell broke his ankle.
Starting point is 00:15:21 So is this a story on par with Vigo Mortensen breaking his toe by kicking that helmet or whatever? I think that's a myth and it never happened. It's not important. It's the story that's what's important. It's a lying. I don't want to hear about it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So when he did come back, they initially filmed all the scenes of him lying down and then the sitting down scenes and then the standing still scenes, then the walking scenes, and the last scene that they filmed was the running scene between Todd and Kane 607
Starting point is 00:15:47 at the beginning of the movie. Todd v. Kane, absolutely. Speaking of Todd v. Kane, we're getting towards the end and there's a Miny Gun Minute. There's two. I see books getting shot up. I see Glass being shot up and I say to you, Nick Mason, how are you feeling about a Paul W.S. Anderson
Starting point is 00:16:04 Minigone Minute? Like you said, they hit books and I'm in favour of destroying books, as you know. I know. I'm indifferent to the destroying of glass. That's fine. It's just frozen air. Flying Glass could hit some books, I don't know, or anything else that could potentially expand one's mind?
Starting point is 00:16:21 What if some glass fell down and then a woman kicked that glass and it went into a dog? I mean, that would be innovative. We've never seen that before. But nobody, no... And it is the classic minigone. It's the very similar to the Terminator minigone. They're firing it for real. It's impressive. Happens twice. Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 00:16:39 But again, he doesn't hit anybody with it, so zero out of ten. In a minor key In a minor key Wow Kurt Russell is just tearing through those super soldiers It's almost as if Jason Isaacs He didn't factor in the one key thing Jason Isaacs
Starting point is 00:16:58 He didn't in IFACs He didn't He couldn't and he didn't He didn't factor in community and humanity No he really didn't Which is what Kurt Russell learned I think Right?
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah I think he did I think he just learned I can just sleep with this guy's wife. That's what I'm going to do. But you're right, though, because in terms of, like, the major protagonist, Jason Scott Lee comes back at the end. And it's like, oh, yeah, these guys are enemies, aren't they, I guess. Let's just see this happen, I guess.
Starting point is 00:17:27 You know what I mean? They have a showdown and whatever. And what I did find him using was that he, the villain nearly dies in the way that evil Spider-Man did in Madam Webb. A big letter falls on him. That's right. And I'm like, oh, shit, he's going out like that. That's interesting because of what I know now,
Starting point is 00:17:42 not at the time when this movie came out. But it's, you know, it's not that good. But then he does, you know, double hand punch. It's pretty good. I thought he was going to drown him in the puddle. He did to do that either. Yeah, I mean, there's a pretty good visit. There's a bit where, you know, the nemesis is like,
Starting point is 00:17:57 he's on the radio call to the other vehicles. And he's like, oh, you're coming in too fast. You're coming in too fast, and you're aiming your big machine guns at me or whatever. And it turns out it's Kurt Russell. He's in the other vehicle. And he's like, acknowledged. I'm going to guess you. He's coming in.
Starting point is 00:18:11 That's pretty fun. It's fun. But it's, you know, it's in like the last 10 minutes. Don't make me wait till the last 10 minutes for something that I'm like, that's all right. It's not that longer movie, though, either, is it? It's a classic Paul W.S. Anderson around an hour and a half movie. Maybe a bit longer.
Starting point is 00:18:26 But seems longer. Does seem longer. He's got a real knack for that, doesn't he? Yeah. Do you think he could use that in some other area of life? Oh, okay. So like maybe you're dying. You've got minutes to live.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And you can make it feel like 10 minutes to live. by watching a clip from this movie. Wow. Maybe you're getting intimate with someone and you're afraid it's not lasting as long as you'd like you. Why, it's because the chair's uncomfortable. No, well, Paul S. W.S. Anderson is in the chair. And he puts his aura over everything.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And the person you're being intimate with is like, this seems to be going forever. This is actually going longer than I would like it to go. Honestly, thanks Paul W.S. Anderson. I've got a note here from IMDB that says, Meekam wetting himself when confronted by Todd at the end was improvised. The urine dripping out of Meekam's pants was actually pineapple juice. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:19:24 How could any of that be improvised? Because they even got a shot of the foot and the pineapple juice. A lot of people on the internet love to be like, well, that scene was actually improvised. That actor did a big yell and the other person was scared for real. It's in the script. It's in the script, man. It's in the script, actually. We don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Did you know, it was in this script initially. What's that? An alternate ending. Decad shows up. Oh, my God. And he's like, I'm here to blade run everybody. Mm-hmm. Does anybody got any blades I could run?
Starting point is 00:19:54 Over here? I'm Harrison Ford. I got two of my special guns now. I'm Harrison Ford. Yeah, they gave me two of the guns. Look how cool they are. The only man who's allowed to improvise. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:20:05 You blade run at me. I know. He's good, isn't he? Yeah, he's great. Yeah. So the ending is they all. get off the junk planet and Todd goes to be everybody's father and whatever. I have to teach the thing about snakes.
Starting point is 00:20:18 The snakes, you can see the stitch in their mouth where they've sewn the snake's mouth shut. I'm just saying, Mason. All right. All right, Mr. Nidpick. So we're not here to nitpick, James. What are we doing? We're talking about. We hear to broadly say that movies are bad and people shouldn't watch them.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Or make them. That's right. But the alternate ending was that Todd stays behind on the planet. He's sacrificing himself. Did he? I can't remember what he did. Honestly, I don't remember what he did. That feels mad.
Starting point is 00:20:45 I don't care what happened to him. I don't remember what happened to him. I don't care what happened to him. This movie could not make me care about anyone in it on any level at all at any point. Great job, everyone. But it's all right, yeah? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:02 It's very mad Max that ending, though, isn't it? The alternate ending where Mad Max is left behind by the community because he can't be in community. Because he's too mad, Max. He's too mad, isn't he? Yeah. And he's too Max. And he's two Max. You know the thing I said about the broken anger?
Starting point is 00:21:14 ankle. I got a fun fact about that. Oh, are you also going to remind us how much Kurt Russell got paid for this? Oh, I'm going to do that also. I'm going to put this ankle thing earlier. So it said officially that Kurt Russell broke his ankle performing a stunt. Okay. But it turns out that was a Hollywood lie. What? Which we will circle back to.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Oh, my goodness. I'll put that in earlier. But I'll leave this part in the extend because they'll get the time code and I'll fix it later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this will all stay obviously. That's good. This is improv. This is some of the best.
Starting point is 00:21:44 stuff we've ever done. Improv. Improv. Yeah. Anyways, it's time for Trivdia! The trivia section of the show! In France, they'd call it Trivdier. They would, wouldn't they? Trivdii.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Trivdii. Yes. Yeah. Shorter people, four feet tall, were used in all the scenes with large military vehicles to make the machines look even largerer. That's pretty good. That's canny. Ridley Scott did that on original alien.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Oh, yeah. Because he cares about things also. He used to. Yes. Yes. In the commentary for Big Trouble in Little China, Kurt Russell staged it only took another action film at his age. He was 47 at the time because of the salary.
Starting point is 00:22:22 It was one of the biggest of his career and he only stuck with it after breaking an ankle and a foot because he really wanted that paycheck. And that paycheck was $20 million. Damn. This movie did not make... $20 million. Also, I don't know if you remember the trailer,
Starting point is 00:22:36 but there was like a space battle in it. I'll stop you there there, I don't remember the trailer. I don't know if you remember the trailer, but there was a space battle in it And there was a skeletons in space, in a space, skeleton in a space suit. No,
Starting point is 00:22:46 that shit happens. What would the context for that be? I don't know, soldier. Oh, yeah. Universal. Or otherwise. Oh, Space Soldier.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Yeah. Wow. Do you think maybe a prank? It might have been a prank. That seems like a kind of prank that would make Gary Busey as a general or whatever very upset. Steam coming out of his ears. Who put that skeleton in that space suit?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah. I'm mad about it. I've wet myself with pineapple juice. He probably had a little smirk about it. though, wouldn't he? He's to himself. Don't let the boy see. Don't know the boy see.
Starting point is 00:23:15 The boy see. So this also bears many similarities to an episode of the Outer Limits entitled Soldier from 1964. Did Harlan Ellison write it? Funny, you should mention that because this one was about an individual raised by the state
Starting point is 00:23:28 to be an unemotional warrior who develops feelings and love and desire to protect his new family. But no legal action was taken by the Allison estate because Harlan Ellison was dead. If we were alive, oh, you better believe he'd be called those lawyers. Well, I think it's all.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I think it's also because they used this movie to sue over the Terminator already. Oh, that's right. And I don't know if you could do that twice, but you can probably take a good route at it. Yeah. Or a limp at it. Here's a fun fact. Oh, oh. So the press statement, as mentioned, said that Kurt Russell broke his ankle in a stunt.
Starting point is 00:24:01 But on the DVD commentary track for Alien versus Predator. Let me guess. Did he break his ankle while kissing Goldie Horn? His wife? No, that's not how he broke his ankle. Anderson finally admitted it. Was it patting his son, Wyatt Russell on the head, giving him a good loving pat on the head? And he broke his ankle.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I don't know, man. He's looking pretty fragile. I can tell you, but if you want to keep running scenarios by me. Okay, what else do I know about Kurt Russell? Kate Hudson? Oh, yeah. Yeah, stepdaughter, I believe. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Did he break his ankle because of something Walt Disney did? I mean... Did Walt Disney write down Kurt Russell that piece of paper and Kurt Russell ran to Walt Disney and then he broke his ankle and he didn't realize it for 40 years or whatever. That's not what happened, Mason.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Okay, then the thing with Kate Hudson. Yeah, that one. Okay. So what actually happened was that during a break in filming he took a stumble, not in a stunt, but over an ornamental cabbage. Haven't we all? I assume in that vegetable garden set.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Wow. So that's fun, isn't it? Wow. Also, you're going to love... I would love to be the insurance guy who has to sign off on that. Oh, my God. Ornamental cabbage, I guess. I guess another thing I've just got to pay out in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Here I go. The dumbest, most gullible man in Hollywood, me. Like I see a movie about that guy. Me too. Anyway, time to... Time to get all this paperwork off the chair. Time to move all the paperwork off the chair. I'm going to...
Starting point is 00:25:40 A couple of people coming around. And this is fun. Tony Gilroy did an uncredited rewrite on the screenplay. Interesting. The creator of, the producer of Andor. And many other things. Yeah. Anyways, box office on a budget of $60 million, 20 of which going to Kurt Russell, it made 14.6.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Oh, that's not great. It didn't even cover him. That's interesting because then Paul W.S. Anderson, Subordinate Willing made like a trillion dollars on the Resident Evil movies. That's right. he went up and up and up and up. Which I've come to realize are better than Soldier.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I guess collectively. No, no, no. See, what you're doing, you're remembering only specific moments from each Resident Evil movie. Okay, but now let's go back in time and try to remember specific moments from the movie Soldier.
Starting point is 00:26:27 You can't do it, can you? I'm just thinking about that cabbage thing, but I didn't even see that. You didn't see the ornamental cabbage situation. No, I didn't. Yeah. This went to straight to home release in a number of places,
Starting point is 00:26:38 including the UK, making it the most expensive movie ever to do so. And David Peoples, he didn't watch this movie until much later. A 2024 article quoted him as saying, It's one that was always painful because I knew of a big change that had been made that was that the little 18-month-old toddler was going to be a seven-year-old actor. My original vision had been of the kid getting into the tiger cage at the zoo and everybody's staring in horror as the big cat wanders around
Starting point is 00:27:06 and this little 18-month-old toddler grinning, I wanted that to be Soldier, and it couldn't be. The director did a brilliant job with a picture. Huh. But I'm still frustrated as I thought it would be a big hit. Who's ever seen an 18-month-old kid dominate the screen in a sci-fi movie? I wanted to... Let it go, man.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Yeah, right? Why this? I don't know. I wanted to break loose like the Terminator. Hey, man, if you build it, they will come. Drop your own 18-month-old into a tiger's cage or whatever. Exactly. See what happens.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Maybe you'll make movie magic. Maybe. Maybe we get a mauled dead kid. Yeah. I wanted to break loose like the Terminator, which is a masterpiece and actually what inspired me to write soldier. Yeah, we know. Halen Allison also.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Yeah. Yeah. I guess James Cameron could have sued for this and then he could have got his money back that they lost on the Terminator. That's true. Wow. Incredible. Could we get some of this?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah, I think we can. I mean, Warner Brothers are going to take all the money from this already. Yeah. So we need to take money. from somebody else. Maybe Patrick H. Willems. Let's get him. Let's get him.
Starting point is 00:28:12 What about the viewers? Oh yeah, we can get them at the end. We'll get them at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we've built up enough sympathy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of, this is the end, but not quite,
Starting point is 00:28:21 because if you want to see next week's video early, what is it? Oh, it's Blade Runner 24-2020. Oh, my God, thank God. A genuinely good movie. Let's double check. Does Paul W.S. Anderson have anything to do with that movie?
Starting point is 00:28:34 I really hope not. We'll do some research. during the week. I'll tell you this much. If it turns out he does, I'm not doing it. I'm not watching it again. I refuse. I know he made Event Horizon and something else that's good. I know he did. But I'm sick of him. If you do want to say that early, along with a bunch of bonus stuff, there's so much bonus stuff. We've got video game let's plays, movie commentaries, etc, and so forth, extra videos and whatever. You can sign up to be a YouTube member. You can go to patreon.com slash Mr Sunday movies or big sandwich.com.
Starting point is 00:29:06 We have a podcast, don't we, Mason? You better believe it's called The Ingle Planet. Yep, you can check it out. It's available on all platforms. Thank you so much to Ben for the edit. Thank you, Ben. And we'll see you guys on the next movie, a good movie. Moral Combat is the other movie I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:29:18 That's right. Yeah, terrific stuff. Grabbed out to Jimmy, guys. We'll see next week. Terrific stuff.

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