The Weekly Planet - Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: May 26, 2022

Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith is considered by many to be the best of the Prequels. High praise, some may say. This is the one George Lucas promised to show the fall of the Republic/rise of the Empire, Anakin Skywalker's turns to the Dark Side, his fateful dual with Obi-Wan Kenobi on Mustafa, death of the Jedi through Order 66 and his final transformation into Darth Vader. Plus there's also a four armed lightsaber fight, a big iguana, death via broken heart, big flips and child murder. Thanks for coming along with us on these Caravan Of Garbage reviews!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/l3TwO9_FAnQHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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for. Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Welcome back everybody to another episode of Caravan of Garbage where yes, we are finally wrapping up the Star Wars prequel trilogy. We've gone through games, we've gone through movies. Leave a like. Sure, there it is. Thank you. So how do you feel? We've gone through games and movies and the laborious process of begging people to leave us a like. We'll do it. Big finish. Huge finish. Because, of course, today we are talking about Star Wars Episode III, Revenge of the Sith,

a movie that most people consider to be the best of the prequels. I certainly agree with that sentiment, yes. Yeah, I think it's, in some ways it's better, but in some ways it's kind of, I feel like it kind of rushes a lot of stuff that we would have maybe liked to have seen over a few more movies now you're saying of course because you know the the original trilogy suggested it you know a certain amount of history between perhaps obi-wan and darth vader yeah and by the third movie they were like we haven't gotten to most of that yet and we cannot we cannot leave that to the viewer's imagination.

It simply will not do. You've got to see every single second. So we're going to smash it all in there, you know? Yeah, exactly. That's exactly it. Like when Obi-Wan calls Darth Vader, old limbless Darth, you know? Yeah.

During that final battle in Obi-Wan. Got to work it in. Got to work it in, man. I can't believe I didn't. I mean, we'll come back to this towards the end, but I can't believe I never put it together that Darth Vader is so much taller than Hayden Christensen and that he probably got his legs chopped off.

Like, it didn't occur to me at all. Oh, I see. Right, right. The clues were there the whole time, Mason. There were no clues. Hayden Christensen's tall, right? Yeah, but not like... He feels tall. He does feel tall.

If you were to feel him, he would probably feel tall. If you were in a dark cupboard with Hayden Christensen, you're like, damn, this dude's tall. He does feel tall. If you were to feel him, he would probably feel tall. If you were in a dark cupboard with Hayden Christensen, you're like, damn, this dude's tall. There's not a lot of room in this cupboard. Well, speaking of cupboards, a lot of this, it feels like it's filmed in a cupboard. You know, we're very much at this point in the digital era for a number of reasons.

So this movie actually had a thing where if you went over to the Lucasfilm website and you signed up, you could, for money, you could get a still image every 10 minutes of the production as it was being filmed. Oh my God. Excuse me. Excuse me. That's wild. Any spoilers. Like a traffic cam that only runs, that only snaps every 10 minutes.

Exactly. So any spoilers, they would veto. Oh my God. Ewan McGregor just ran that red light. But, yeah, there was also a bunch of advancements in digital filmmaking. For one, I watched a bunch of behind-the-scenes stuff, and they really, like, get into how big the screens are that they can watch the movie being filmed on as it's being filmed.

Because normally they're like, you're watching a little black-and-white monitor, and you're like, did that look good? I don't know. But now, you know, you can see it on a big TV. And now that's like, yeah. And a real big TV, not just a bunch of little TVs all stacked together in a box. I always hated little TVs stacked together on a box.

Same. Awful. But yeah, you know, so you can see like the subtleties of the performance and, you know, you can also instantly rewind to see if you've got something in a shot, which meant basically they could film something really quickly, tear down the set or the green screen and do a new thing. Isn't it amazing that they got to the 21st century before they added what is essentially a VCR to the set?

You can rewind it. Look back at it. Yeah, but it's difficult with film, you know what I mean, with actual film stock as opposed to digital film. Digital film, yeah. Digital film, yeah. Anyways, you were waiting this whole time to be like, what's the mystery behind the clones and the Cypherdeus fellow?

You were asking me all week. You're like, ooh. I still don't know who Cypherdeus is. You've got to watch The Clone Wars. That's how that works. Oh, is that where it is? Okay, all right. Was that a satisfying reveal for people who watch the clone wars uh let

us know i haven't watched it people below tell us probably look like some dude i'm guessing like a real pale dude probably pale dude big collar what do you reckon yeah bit of red bit of red bit of red yeah i think you're thinking of a guy in this movie bruce spence pale dude big collar i am thinking of bruce spence but as the helicopter guy in that Mad Max movie. I'm not the helicopter guy from Star Wars with the helicopter blade? No. Okay, fair enough. Because it's the same creature.

It's the same kind of alien creature. Yeah, it's the same creature, Bruce Spence. Anyways, war. Oh, this is the opening crawl. My favourite part of the opening crawl, it says there are heroes on both sides. Yeah. What are you talking about?

Name one. Or do they mean, maybe they mean like hero in like the Greek mythology sense. Like a hero is like the child of a god. Okay. Maybe they just mean like there are powerful beings on both sides, I guess. Maybe that's what they mean. Maybe they mean Grievous. They might mean Grievous.

Well, that's hints towards... General Grievous, the greatest hero of them all. You know? Yeah, absolutely. But there's hints towards, and you get it from the Trade Federation

and Natalie Portman says it to Anakin at one point, of like, can we just wind this down? Nobody really wants to do this war anymore. But beyond that... No war anymore.

Yeah, beyond that war anymore yeah beyond that it's like yeah who's who is it who are you talking to and i think i think that yeah the clone wars fleshes out more of the gray area of this conflict maybe the um maybe the revelation here is that the opening crawl writers are like both sides journalists and they and they you know there's a guy in his office he's like like, Palpatine's doing evil stuff. And these editors are like, we can't say that. We can't. You've got to balance that out.

You could say they're heroes. Of both sides, please. If you could. That being said, I love the opening to this. I think it's some of the best stuff in the prequels. I've written here. Sure is a lot of Star War going on. I agree.

I think this is the Star War they were talking about. This is a big opening action. The one all along. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that they've been hinting at. Just seeing those two Jedi starfighters

like flying in unison. Just two mates. Yeah. It's good to see two mates just being like, we're mates. And you believe a lot of it in this.

Until they start screaming at each other. Oh yeah, and the fire and the limb chopping. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's hours away. Yeah, exactly. But it does feel like for a lot of these movies,

and there are exceptions like Dexter Jetster, where nobody's really friends with anybody. They just happen to be in the same place at the same time, and they're just like, I think this. Well, I think this. And then they, like. Yes, it's just people talking at one another. Just in a big void.

It's people waiting for the other person to stop talking so they can talk. But, yeah, you're right, and it is a shame in a lot of ways that it feels like not only did they get the character dynamic right, I feel like the actors really kind of became in sync and became like, oh, this is a pairing or a group of people that I really want to see, maybe in more movies. But, of course, everything works in threes and they couldn't go, let's cap it off here

and they save the day and then we'll do another trilogy down the line. Yeah, yeah. We've got to chop those limbs. Absolutely. I think we might be seeing more of that stuff though down the line of those two together in live action. In between Quill.

Yeah, in between Quill. Also the Clone Wars, I guess. Yeah, and the Clone Wars. We didn't see the Clone Wars. We've seen some of the Clone Wars. We saw some of the Clone Wars. Well, I've seen some of the Clone Wars. We saw some of the Clone Wars. Yeah. So the reason, though, that some of the dialogue appears better in this film

is because Francis Ford Coppola, who's a longtime friend of George Lucas, suggested Christopher Neill to be a dialogue coach on this movie. And you might be like, who is this Christopher Neill? It's his nephew. Because that's how things work. Wait, who's nephew? Francis Ford Coppola's nephew? Yes. Nice. Yeah, so look. Not George's his nephew. Because that's how things work. Wait, who's nephew? Francis Ford Coppola's nephew? Yes. Nice. Yeah, so look, and I think

George Lucas' nephew. Hey, look, George, maybe you could get your nephew. Guys, he's always doing Shakespearean monologues on set. You have to keep kicking him out. Okay, no, that is absolutely how it works. And also, you should bring in my nephew, Nicholas Coppola

Cage. Maybe bring in him. Yeah, but I think he did make some big improvements to this. But, you know, then there's moments like, you know, that I also kind of enjoy, like new droids, like a buzz droid. You know what I mean? I mean, I would just use a bomb. If you can get a missile to explode near a ship. Sure, yes.

Just make it a big bomb or make the little droids big bombs. But, you know, then you get a fun little action sequence. I would simply manufacture bombs into the ships and sell them to the Jedi. And then when they come in for the big-time assault, I'm like, joke's on you, bang, bang. I actually have a theory about that that I want to talk about in a bit. Well, something similar at least.

So Dooku's back. Christopher Lee did two days and then a stunt guy did most of the fight. I think that fight's great though. I think the idea of them coming back together again and you can see that Anakin Skywalker's holding back and then as soon as Obi-Wan's passed out, he's just like,

I think I'm going to open up a bit. Yeah, time to do a bit of evil, I reckon. You know? Now Grandad's asleep, I reckon I'll do a bit of evil. And I know he's goaded into kind of chopping off his head, but he wasn't goaded into chopping off his hands. That's true. He did that on his own accord.

Well, that's a fun bit of payback. Yeah, but you see around Obi-Wan, he's more measured, like when they get caught in the ray shields, and he's like, I think we should wait. And if Obi-Wan were gone, he'd be like, I reckon we should chop off these race shields' hands. That's it. Hey, race shields, come here, buddy.

Chopping your hand off, mate. But that whole sequence, like, even the bit where they land in the hangar bay and Obi-Wan does a huge flip out of his ship before it's even stopped. Just great stuff. And there's the moment where they're fighting the bodyguard droids with the big, you know big sparkly sticks or whatever. And Obi-Wan beheads one and he's like, okay, and he turns his back and he's like, oh, shit, this fight's still going.

I'm still in a fight right now. I love little inclusions like that, you know? But speaking of droids, well, he's not really a droid. He's a cyborg man, creature alien boy. Grievous. Oh, yes. Now, it's said creature alien boy, Grievous. Oh, yes. Now, it's said that Grievous can kill a bunch of Jedi because he's too intimidating.

He's a whirlwind of intimidation and fury and where is he? You know what I mean? He's got so many arms and lightsabers. He's under that big cloak. That's where he is. Yeah, most of him's under that cloak. What's left of him is under the cloak. But again, and we saw this in the Clone Wars animated series,

the first one, because Mace Windu does this, just crush him. Right? I don't understand. I genuinely do not get the threat. I don't get it. Now the assertion is, from people opposed to your view, which is merely a certain point of view, James. That he has some of Sifo-Dyas' blood in him?

No, I was going to say that just crushing him, like crushing his brain or crushing his heart or whatever would be evil. Yeah. And you shouldn't do that. But again, Jedi are chopping people's heads off all the time. Also, Obi-Wan shoots him with a gun. Shoots him with a regular gun. So that's fine, is it?

Yeah, yeah. But I mean, at the very least, maybe snap the helmet closed over his eyes or whatever. Exactly. He'd be like, oh, oh, oh. And then chop his limbs off. I've got a question for you. Go on.

Have you ever seen a man riding a big iguana chasing a robot in a big wheel? This week? No. I think though, I think. Have you? Oh, maybe in the movie. In the movie Star Wars Episode III, Revenge of the Sith. Now is that, where did the iguana come from?

Because it's his friend, right? It's Obi-Wan's friend. I think it's just part of that planet's, like, ecosphere, you know? Did he have to... It wasn't in the ship, no. Well, because he's like, hey, come here, buddy, and it's already there, and it's like... So did you tame that? He's got Jedi powers.

He's calming its mind. Initially, I thought... It is weird that there's only one, though. Right. Initially, I thought that that was maybe one of the monsters that they defeated in the monster pit in Episode 2. Oh, I thought that that was maybe one of the monsters that they defeated in the monster pit in episode two. Oh, okay. Like maybe he became friends with it afterwards.

He's just shipping it planet to planet. Yes. Fair enough. But imagine being Ewan McGregor that day and they're like... Oh, it's really funny. You should see the behind the scenes footage. Oh, is it just like a big green pommel horse? Like a bucking bronco that you put a coin in?

And they're like, this is going to be a big iguana, Ewan. Oh, is it? Yeah, definitely. Is this the same thing that I'm going to be riding at the end of the movie when I hand over the baby? No, that's a different thing. That's like a camel thing. Just react exactly as you would if you were riding a giant iguana.

Okay, sure. He's talked multiple times about how, and even, you know, at the time of filming this, it's in the behind the scenes where, yeah, he's like, it's hard. Because you just don't know what you're looking at. That being said, there is a lot of model work in this still. Like that volcano, for the most part, is model work.

You know, obviously with CGI enhancements. They filmed Mount Etna when it erupted and used a lot of fire in that. You know, things like that. They filmed Dame Etna. They did film Dame Etna. Some fire in that. You know, things like that. They filmed Dame Etna. They did film Dame Etna. Some sort of freakish alien creature. Yeah, they didn't use it.

You know what? If I were Ewan McGregor and I was filming on the giant lizard, I would give it a lot of knowing looks so they'd have to animate in the lizard looking back at me and being like, I'd be like, good work, buddy. Yeah, they're mates. Yeah. Because this episode is about mates, you know, for a bit.

Yeah. But, yeah, and I think. Because this episode is about mates, you know, for a bit. Yeah. But yeah, and I think one of the things that also helps this movie is Trish Biggar who does all the costumes. Because if you're not on a set, and there were a few sets that they did build, like Padme's apartment and one corridor of that ship, and other things as well, you're standing across from somebody in a costume, hopefully, unless it's a CGI creature,

and then you kind of know what you're reacting to and i think that makes a big difference you know yeah are we are we gonna slot this in somewhere just obi-wan fighting grievous yeah let's do that right now okay i was gonna say because because obi-wan's plan yeah evidently is to leap in in front of grievous and completely surrounded by like an army of droids and aliens and monsters and just hope that he can go grievous into fighting him one-on-one right yes because he saw what happened in episode two he remembers episode two he remembers it very well absolutely and all those jedi getting slaughtered and he's like you know what make this more fun worse odds for me way worse odds but i kind of like that idea

of how much he's grown and he's been doing like two to three years of war. So he's probably like, I could probably backflip out of this, I reckon, if I need to. I could probably whistle for another, some sort of giant alien creature to whisk me away. Do I know any giant bees? Some sort of alien dragonfly type that could pick me up, whisk me out of here.

How are you feeling about, you know, really ramping up the lightsaber battles in this where it gets to the point where you're fighting something with four lightsabers? Do you think it's too much? Do you think it's just the right amount of lightsabers? I think there should be more lightsabers. More lightsabers. Yeah, more lightsabers.

I think there's memes of that. Oh, definitely, yeah. Oh, I meant for Obi-Wan. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. Put him between his toes. Yeah, sure. I think that fight gets more interesting, first of all, with the iguana chase sequence. Sure.

But even better than that, when they go hand to hand. Like that's when it's fun for me. Not when it's just a spinning whirlwind of lightsabers. It's like, yeah, cool, I guess. But, you know, when he kicks Grievous and he's like, oh God, he's made of metal. I kicked one of the metal bits. You know, that's the stuff that I like.

Also, I should have kicked his soft alien genitals. Wherever they are. Joke's on you, Obi-Wan. They are in my foot. But I've coated it in metal. As you would, yeah. Also, all Jedi should just... You don't think all the Jedis that I killed didn't attempt to kick me in my genitals?

This isn't my first trying to be kicked in the genitals by a Jedi rodeo. Also, all Jedi, they should just have a gun, right? Yeah. I mean, they're pretty good with a lightsaber, but imagine if you had a lightsaber and a gun. A lightsaber that turns into a gun. Well, we've seen that in Star Wars Rebels. Oh.

Ezra Bridger has one. It's like a lightsaber gun. There's also some sort of animated series that I watched as a kid where somebody had a lightsaber gun, and I remember thinking, that's sick, man. Was it Silverhawks? No, it wasn't Silverhawks. I think it was an anime.

Oh, an anime. Yeah. I've probably seen it. Yeah, you've probably seen it. You're the guy who knows everything about anime. It's true. You know what you love? You love seeing things that you've seen before.

I know that. Yeah, absolutely. When you come to my house, you're like, I've seen this couch. I saw it last week. Yeah. But this time around, we get Chewbacca. I'm going to jump on it again. But this time around, we get Chewbacca. I'm going to jump on it again. But this time around, we get Chewbacca, you know?

Yeah. And that's fun. Now, originally, he was supposed to be paired with little boy Han Solo. All right. There's a few cut subplots in this, but this one would have had them helping locate General Grievous by finding part of a transmitter droid, which meant Obi-Wan could go find him on Utapau, right?

Okay. Yeah. But, like, thank you so much for not doing that. Right. How little would this little boy be? Like, Jake Lloyd age? Or maybe, like, young teen or something? Well, if Luke and Leia are born in this movie,

he'd be, like, 10-ish. Yeah, he'd be older than them, right? Yeah. Okay, sure, sure, sure. But, you know, I think the idea of just, like, him and Chewbacca have been friends since he's a little boy, it's like, that's nothing, you know what I mean? them, right? Yeah. Okay, sure, sure, sure. But, you know, I think the idea of just, like, him and Chewbacca have been friends since he's a little boy, it's like that's nothing, you know what I mean? Yeah, right?

I mean, it's a little bit Calvin and Hobbes, and I like that. Sure. And also, who do you get? Yeah. Frankie Muniz? Yeah. You get little olden Iron Rack. Oh, yeah, okay, sure.

You think about him doing that movie, It Used to Come, and you get ahead of it. Yeah, nice. That's a great idea. Yeah. Yeah. Wait wait what about Malcolm in the Middle's older brother

oh Francis yes sure I think he was like 19 at the time yeah fine whatever whatever I guess yeah I think that whole

thing of like wait what about Dewey that works too great wait what about Bryan Cranston yeah definitely okay great

why isn't he in any of these movies because he did 10 seasons of Malcolm in the Middle. He's rich. Yeah, he's rich. I forgot. Breaking Bad. Let him retire, for God's sake.

Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. But I do think... He was also Zordon. Yeah, he was Zordon. Don't forget he was Zordon. He was Zordon for a bit, wasn't he? But that's because he... He was in the original Power Rangers.

He was in the original as like a bit player, I guess. Yeah, exactly. I think the whole stuff with Yoda and the Wookiees, I'm not really interested in like that planet. It only serves to kind of have him be off planet for Order 66, I guess. You know what I mean? Which we will get to. But I do love the bit where they go to like get Yoda off world

and there's this like pod, which is like the size of a Wookiee and they just pull like one small branch off it. Now, presumably there were more branches, but I like the idea of just putting one on it and just go, yeah, this is fine. Is that how he got there? Like why were they hiding the pod? What's that situation?

You know what I mean? I don't know. There's a deleted scene actually where he arrives on Dagobah but they had to get rid of it because you don't need to see everything. Oh, like his final resting place as it were. Okay. The door opens and he looks out and he goes, oh, fuck. Oh, like his final resting place, as it were. The door opens and he looks out and he goes, Oh, fuck, no, oh, God.

What a horrible place. There's already a hut there. There's like one other hermit living there. And he just shoots him. Drakes his body into a shallow grave and he's like, I live here now. Smart planet. Sits on his little seat like he's Boba Fett.

Palpatine, though. I like in this movie that people... I'm going to make some gross stews. Oh, yeah, definitely. Sorry, Palpatine. No, no, it's fine. I like that people are beginning to notice that he's not great. Like, even if he's not a Sith,

which he obviously is and he always has been, where people are like, this isn't lighting up. Why is this guy still in power? This war is going he seems very aggressive this man you know what i mean i'm starting to think there aren't heroes on both sides exactly not everybody cotton's on for example attican uh i don't think yeah i guess he's he's a dumb guy he's a dumb guy he's just a himbo it's not his fault yeah but like the moment where you know Obi-Wan's pinned under that thing after he kills Dooku and Palpatine's like, just leave him.

And Anakin's not like, excuse me? Excuse me? Yeah. Mr. Palpatine? But I enjoy that like Obi-Wan and the Jedi hate Palpatine and Palpatine hates them. You know what I mean? Sure, right.

I like that kind of dynamic and he's trying to infiltrate Anakin into that group for his own nefarious purposes. Because I don't know if you know this, Mason. Go on. He's the bad guy. What?

Yes. I mean, you see it later because he gets his face lightning. The bad guy's Darth Sidious. Yeah, no, no, no. I can see why you'd be confused by that. He's been in two other movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, those two people, they actually merge together into one person. Oh, wow. That happens off screen. That's cool, man. That is cool, isn't it? Anyways, Palpat into one person. Oh, wow. That happens off screen. That's cool, man. That is cool, isn't it? Anyways, Palpatine and Anakin.

Palpakin. Thank you. Which is their couple name. That's right. The weird, ominous squid opera. Wait, give me a moment. Okay. Anitine.

Not as good. The other one's better. Sounds like some sort of malted milk drink. It does, but off-brand. Yeah. But one of people's favourite sequences in this movie, including the two actors that are in it, is the weird, ominous squid opera situation.

Oh, yes. Where they sit down together and he's like, I'm going to tell you a great Sith proverb that only I know. Nothing better than a squid opera scene in a sci-fi movie. Fifth Element? I'm well into it. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

That was originally actually just supposed to be in his office and I'm glad they went, maybe we don't film this one in the office. You know what mean yeah you're right we've had a bit of that going on there's a moment where and he could just an office scene but they bring in the opera singer anyway yeah yeah i just we hire our products there's a little trait for the workers but like there's even a moment where anakin walks in on his office and you just see that palpatine's just looking at the death star plans if you notice that but he's like, hmm, oh yeah, this could work. He's going through a sexy weapon of mass destruction calendar.

Just open it up like a playboy. Hello. Not bad. July is a torture droid. What do you think about that? Dark Saber. That's a legend situation though, Mason. Let me tell you that right now.

Well, not the one from the Mandalorian. There's two Dark Sabers. Let's a legend situation though, Mason. Let me tell you that right now. Well, not the one from the Mandalorian. There's two Darksabers. Let's not do this. Let's not get into this. Also, I also don't... Look, as soon as I said it, I'm also like, let's not get into that.

Why would he be leafing through a calendar ahead of time? It'd be a catalogue. It's too late to switch it around, all right? Exactly. It's death machine porno is what he's looking at. That's what he's doing, exactly. I love that though

that everybody is telling Anakin, including Obi-Wan that like, this is a bad guy. Like he's essentially grooming him. And we know that because Anakin's like, he's not a bad guy. He watched over me since I was a child and I arrived here. Yeah, that's a red flag, man. Like that's a bad thing. And also he's like

and he put me on the council and he told me to leave you to die on the ship, and he told me he was a Sith Lord. Oh, wait a minute. It takes him that long. How could I be on the council but not be a master? I don't know. Because your boss got you on there.

Your boss got you. Yeah, it's a nepotism hire, dude. Come on. Who's also maybe your dad. Have you heard about this theory? I mean. Oh, because Anakin was a virgin birth. Yes.

As it were. What's her name? Shmi and Shkiv. One of them's Shiv and one of them's Shmi, right? Yes, that's right. Shmi is the lady. Yes. Shmi is his mum.

Okay, right. But the theory is, I guess, that he put his evil midichlorians in her and it resulted in an evil Anakin baby. Yeah, something to that effect. But there was actually an earlier draft of this script where he says, I arranged for your conception. You might almost think of me as your father.

And Anakin's like, no, that's not true. It's impossible. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. It's like a tone poem. Yeah, exactly. But here's the thing. It's my favourite thing George Lucas has ever said.

I agree. It's like a tone poem. Like a tone poem. We got George in for that said. I agree. It's like a told poem. Like a told poem. We got George in for that, actually. Just to say that. Because we needed a fresh kind of line of dialogue. That's right. We couldn't get a clean recording of it.

So it's also been implied more recently in one of the Darth Vader comics that this is what happened. But Matt Martin, who's a member of the story group, has come out and said, no, this is like a certain perspective and it's all part of a manipulation. And also George Lucas took it out for a reason because it's probably not true. And it's also, you're right, it is very on the nose that it's exactly the same as the reveal in Empire Strikes Back.

And that's not, that's, you know, that's... That's boring, quite frankly. It's boring and I feel that revelation is more impressive if you don't have anything before it, I think. But also that's interesting because that sounds like the comics writers, like they went rogue. They went rogue one. Well, no, it was never supposed to be like, this is the definitive answer.

It was all part of like a larger manipulation and perspective and all of those kinds of things, you know? Your father's actually that guy, Gary. Gary? No, Gary worked down the moisture farm. Yeah, I met him. Well, he's your dad. Oh. Yeah. Do I have. Well, he's your dad. Oh.

Yeah. Do I have to talk to him? Nah. I think he's dead. I think he fell in a moisture... Whatever they have, some sort of machinery they have at the moisture farm. I don't know. It's very vague, isn't it?

Yeah, it is, isn't it? Anyways, Mace Windu. Oh, yeah. Might be one of the dumbest people in these movies. There's a moment where he says, I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi. Yeah, that's... I mean, you knew that from like two movies ago

when the Sith turned up. And probably your entire career, right? It's like, surely... I mean, were you just aware of the Sith and you thought it was a different club with different coloured lightsabers? Ridiculous. What do you reckon they're doing over there?

Come on, man. The moment whereakin kind of ambles up to him after finding out that he's a sith lord because he was told so mace windu's reaction is oh how do you know he's a sith lord and none of anakin's answers are yeah he just fucking told me like just now and so and so mu. I don't think he was joking. I don't think he was joshing around. He didn't say JK. He said for reals. Well, he said FR, but that's for reals. Yeah, that is for reals.

Yeah. But the idea that then Mace Windu, his reaction is to go, I'm just going to take the three guys that are currently with me to deal with this. Those guys are literally with him when he finds out. Yeah. Like he didn't think of like a wider execution of this plan. Bring a tank. Bring a tank.

Bring a rock. Hit him with a rock. Bring that robot that squirts out worms, poison worms. Exactly. And the rest of that, all the other. I mean, I know maybe he was trying to keep it low key, do you know what I mean? Because you don't want to get caught conspiring.

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And then it's just him fighting Ian McDermott and his face replacement. So those guys are management. Yeah, exactly. Probably haven't done any lightsaber stuff in years. They're not off-planet, like, doing adventures with Obi-Wan, are they? They're bean counters. Yeah, bring in some of the loose cannon Jedi. You know, they don't play by the rules, but they get results.

God. Bring in Quinlan Vos. Bring in Quinlan Vos. He gets a mention here. Yeah, Obi-Wan's like, Quinlan Vos is doing an adventure. Is he related to Dryden Vos? Yeah, they're sisters. That's great.

Yeah, I think so. Yeah. It's a gender-fluid universe. That's great. Another one with that. The fight with Mace Windu and Palpatine, I get that it shot up close because it's all confined. And I love Ian McDermott's expression the whole time.

You know who else is loving Ian McDermott's expression? Ian McDermott. Oh, my God. He's loving it. Yeah, he's really crushing it. We were talking about this before we started recording, like concerning how much money he got from this and why does he do it and why did he come back for the new one?

And I just think he's just having a great time. Yeah. And the money. For sure, yeah. Those two things, yeah. The script just says, Ian, just, or the director's just like, Ian, in this scene, just pick a number and say it and that's how many spaceships you have.

A million stars, yep. Great, that's great. That's great. You got it. No notes. There's also some contention about whether or not the emperor lost this fight on purpose or whether he was beaten. Why would he want to lose, though?

To get the weird googly moogly face? Yeah, that's right. That's the only way to get it. So yeah, I encourage everybody to do their own research also. Terrific. You know what I mean? Yeah, I do know what you mean. So the official Lucasfilm line of this is,

this is from the novelisation. Oh, you mean so he would lose so that Anakin would kill? Yeah, essentially. Where the Mace Windu was using a vapard, vapid, it's his style of aggressive lightsaber fighting. Oh, I think I remember reading that in some sort of Dorling Kindersley book. Exactly.

Star Wars data files or whatever. Yeah. And he also found his shatter point, which is apparently a thing that you can use where you find a person's breaking point and it might be another person or a thought or a feeling. I don't know. It's a bit vague. And he used that against the Emperor.

I'm pretty sure that like every time I use a vending machine, it finds the thing i'm buying is chatter point every time i get the thing i'm like oh oh no but it's also i think possible that the emperor knew that he couldn't win that fight and so just like because of the the vapid and the shatter point yes yes yes yes so he thought look i can't defeat this guy one to one but i guess if anakin's going to intervene that's my chance here. You know what I mean? So there you go. Oh, you know, I remember the Dorling Kinsley books.

Yeah. Because one of them has Dooku in it. It says like, smug expression of superiority on it or whatever. And he's just like, I don't know where I am. But better than you though. Before we talk about Anakin's turn, I want to get into some scrapped concepts for this movie Okay

From earlier drafts So when George Lucas was originally going through this He realised that having Boba Fett getting revenge on the Jedi And Padme also founding the Rebel Alliance Which is in a deleted scene where Mon Mothma's in that But then it was cut but then she was brought back for Rogue One and other things The actress who played her Oh my god look at that face

We're putting that in, Ben. All right, great. Mason found the image. So yeah, it was supposed to be Boba Fett getting revenge, Padme founding the Rebel Alliance, and there was an idea to have seven battles over seven planets going on, right, at one point in this movie.

As in not to seven brides for seven brothers. Exactly. Because, you know, we talked about how escalating battles, so in episode one it was four battles at the end. I think they worked some of that into the Order 66 stuff. How did they come up with seven? I don't know. Is it just one more than the last one?

Yes, one more. Maybe, I don't know. Who cares? It's not important. But he decided to just scrap all of that and focus on... George Lucas comes into the pitch meeting, he's just written battles on a piece of paper, but then he turns the S into a dollar sign.

How many battles? Seven. Seven battles battles? Seven. Seven battles. Like Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. All right, George, whatever. It's fine. Yeah, good, great, good. But he decided to just focus on the turn of Anakin,

so all of that is in the bin, but also kind of used in other places. Yeah, right, right, right. We've seen it in other media. I do, though, and I mentioned this up top i feel the turn is a bit rushed and i think also it's partially because the idea that he was going to save padme from death that was really emphasized in the reshoots because initially his turn was going to be because he thought that the jedi were going to take over right and so that's why he intervened okay and i don't really think that either of them are fleshed out that well

to make it convincing. I just don't believe that he wrecks Mace Windu and he gets flung out the window. Which is obviously a classic way to die is by your last name. Boy, is it. You're going to be killed by a stone, Mason, aren't you? Oh, no. Yes, Mason.

And then the idea that Palpatine's like, you know how I said that we could stop people from dying? I can't do that. But what if we did it together? Like, you'd rethink your situation. You killed Mace Windu, but you can come back from that. You know what I mean? Can you?

Yeah, but you can't come back from everything. Yeah, definitely. Actually, the window killed him. Actually, the fall killed him, if he's even dead. Actually, the fall didn't kill him. It was the sudden stop at the bottom. Yeah, but even the idea where there's a moment where him and Obi-Wan are shouting at each other.

Just I was going to say, there's a lot of speculation that Mace Windu is still alive, right? Yeah. I mean, not now. We've tried of old age, and he's fictional. But Jedi survive falls all the time. Absolutely, they do. Happens literally every movie.

But he hasn't returned in anything, right? Not yet. Okay. No, I think he will. But we'll see. Because, you know, he's a character that people know and an actor that people know, so. I guess once Secret Wars is finished, the Marvel series.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll probably want another job. Yeah, I think so. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, once Marvel just finishes making movies and TV shows, yeah. It'll come want another job. Yeah, I think so. Absolutely, yeah. Once Marvel just finishes making movies and TV shows, it will come back, yeah. But the idea that he wants to help Palpatine overthrow the Jedi because of love and also because he thinks the Jedi are evil.

And as soon as Palpatine explains that to him, and then he says, once more the Sith will rule the galaxy. But think critically, idiot. You know what I mean? Do you not see? How do you not see this? This is why I think it should have been spaced out more. I think he meant due to the incredible popularity

of the raising people from the dead power. That's true, yeah. People will be loving it. Yeah. Give me a bit of that raising from the dead. I would love some of that. Yes, please. Who would you bring back?

Just so people know, this is an incredibly long pause. Like, we edited it shorter, but a lot of time has passed. Is it dinosaurs? That's a good answer, actually. Pretty good, right? Yeah, I'm into that.

Yeah. Order 66. Yes. It's good. Order 66 is good. No, it's a good sequence. Oh, sure, yeah. Great score by John Williams.

The overall plan to get the Jedi isolated with clone troopers on different worlds, you know what I mean? It totally makes sense. Do you think the execution of Order 66 only works if Palpatine says it? Yeah. Or could it work anywhere, like at a family restaurant or something? Funny you should say that because in the Darth Vader comic, there's a Jedi Padawan who's still alive,

and he says it to some clone troopers in front of some Inquisitors. And because all the Inquisitors are former Jedi, they just start laying waste to them. So it's still in them. So anybody can say it. So if you happen to say it, I think that it just works. Or if you're at a McDonald's. Or if you're at a McDonald's, exactly. So there's also a really interesting theory that I saw from Eckhart's Ladder,

who's got a Star Wars and Halo-based YouTube channel, where he talks about the purpose of the hyperspace ring as a mode of transportation for the Jedi. Okay. And the idea that those are Jedi and government-funded weaponry and vehicles. Now, what's the hyperspace ring again? It's the thing you put your spaceship into. Yeah, you need one to go to escape or go anywhere right but if you're isolated with clone troopers and

they're trying to kill you they could keep you on planet by just destroying that you know what i mean so it's essentially they've built a trap into the system and that's never been confirmed at all but i really like that idea that the whole structure of the jedi is just so broken and stupid and manipulated that every single level of it is just to get you killed essentially and also they went to use the toilet and the clone troopers have put like some plastic wrap so you're not doing a big a big poo on yourself is that what you're saying yeah great yeah every angle they've got covered it's incredible yeah so anakin and padme have a relationship in this, don't they? I mean, she's barely in it and she does nothing but have a big sook and then die.

But there might be a reason for this. And this is a rumour. It's in the book How Star Wars Conquered the Universe, which is a really extensive history of the franchise in general. But apparently, well, according to that, the rumour was that Natalie Portman made some of the handmaidens cry in the first movie, including Keira Knightley. And so that explains her reduced role in these movies.

Oh, because she was mean. Yeah, but every actor is a weird lunatic. And everybody has good and bad days. Yeah, and she was like a child. She was like a literal child. I'm not excusing that behavior if it happened, but that's one of the explanations for why she's barely in it. But I also think that the way that they wrap up that

is not super interesting. I mean, there's a moment where she's like, I'm pregnant, and you see the look on his face of just like, oh, no. What does that mean? He's not happy. I've never heard this word before. And that balcony scene where I'm in love with you,

while I'm so in love with you. It's like, yeah, okay. That's really good. But I do wonder, what do you think would have happened if they had both survived and he hadn't have killed all those kids? Probably would have been a nice time for everyone. But do you think he would have quit after the war and gone to live on Naboo or whatever? Yeah, that sounds nice.

I think he might have, Mason. Unless Naboo was destroyed. I can't remember. No I think he might have Mason. Unless Naboo was destroyed. I can't remember. No, it wasn't Mason. That's terrific then. Seems lovely. They had a big party in Return of the Jedi on it. They changed Return of the Jedi so you see Naboo.

And they're going, woo! Nice. Woo! And they added that scene outside the Sydney Opera House. Like Australia was here too. Yeah, with the big spaceship crashed. Yeah, terrific. But then, of course, that leads us into the Mustafa breakout.

It's so bizarre how he thinks that he's going to win her over. It's also so bizarre that they stay together at all when he's killing kids in like two of these three movies. Yes. But there's the moment where... And she likes kids. Yeah. She's pregnant.

She's pregnant. I mean, you don't have to like kids to be pregnant, but yeah, it seems like she likes kids. Maybe she only likes her kids. Yeah, I can relate to that. And I was a teacher, but yeah. Again, he's such an idiot where he goes to her and he goes, hey, listen, forget all the rumors you've heard about me,

but I can kill the emperor and then me and you, we can rule the galaxy. And she's like, no. And then he's like, oh, why not? Because of Obi-Wan. No. Like what? The murder thing you mentioned.

And the killing of the kids. Yeah. Which I'm indifferent to. I only like my kids. That's right. There is actually a piece of concept art and a plot point they were going to put in where she pulls a knife on him and she's going to stab him, but she can't do it. And I think that would have been more interesting than just like, you know, it's just not that

interesting. Also, he's got a lightsaber. He'd chop her hands right off. Exactly. But you know, give her a bit of agency. Do you know what I mean? Yes. Give her some decision making.

Have something happen. Not just like, oh, she dies because she's the saddest woman in the galaxy. It's just it feels rushed. Anyway, politics. You thought we'd escaped it, didn't you? Yes, I thought this was going to be the big action finale. Well, what about the moment where Anakin screams, if you're not with me, then

you're my enemy? Because, you know, it's an obvious... It's a George Bush line after 9-11 whatever. And look, I know people don't like to hear that. I mentioned that, you know, the American... It's just a completely coincidental sequence of words, James. I know, I know, I know. But look, around...

George Lucas was in his bathtub with his rubber duckies and he's like, you know what, I'm going to put this in. Yeah. Just thought of it off the top of my head. Just by pure happenstance. But by this point, George Lucas... If you're not with me, you're against me, rubber duckies. But at this point in his life, George Lucas was very openly political.

It was more kind of subtle in his earlier movies. But he's mentioned in an interview and he's openly compared the Iraq War to the Vietnam War. And, you know, George Bush and Nixon and all of these things. How, you know, history is repeating itself and terrible presidents and all of these things, how history is repeating itself and terrible presidents and all of these things, and wars that put in place for basically for no reason other than to profit a very few amount of people. And look, I know people don't like to hear that,

but take it up with George Lucas because... I mean, you said all that, but all I heard was freedom, so... Yeah, you're right. Say what you like, dude. Anyway, it's a big fight. There's a big fight at the end. And let me tell you this, Mason. Can something, you know, be really well thought out and escalate wildly?

You know what I mean? And there's lava and there's bits breaking off and everyone's doing big flips and screaming at each other. And you're watching it and I'm just like, it's kind of washing over me at a point. Like, it's both things to me, this fight. You know what I mean? Interesting.

It's beautifully, like, manufactured and played out. And Nikola, the stunt stunt coordinator putting it all together and the John Williams score you know the battle of heroes and it blends into Jewel of the Fates and all that is incredible but I think the word you used there

was manufactured and I think maybe that's why it doesn't maybe connect with people you think movies should be natural and you just get people in their homes yeah I would have waited for Ewan McGregor

and Hayden Christensen to just have a fight just have a fight what I would do is I would pick I would pick Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen to just have a fight, just have a fight. What I would do is I would pick some sort of baked good that they both liked and I would put one on the craft services table and I would wait for them to argue over it and then I would film that and I would just CGI in lightsabers over the top. But no, I think, like, because there is some, you know,

we get the classic line of you were the chosen one and all that sort of stuff, but I think maybe that's too far too... The emotion is too few and far between. And there's just so much of like conveyor belt fighting, you know, as it were. Just so much jumping and so on. What I do like about it, though, is that you see them physically slow down.

Like by the end, they're just kind of hacking at each other on that floating platform or whatever. And also you see that Obi-Wan is just like on the back foot the entire time. Because that's because they'd run out of energy. Yeah, exactly. They hadn't had their croissant. And they both used their big force dash previously. And you can only use it once, you know what I mean?

But I like the idea that Obi-Wan won not because he's naturally more gifted. Because one is in his name. Yes, that's right. Yeah, but he's more experienced and he's patient and he's maybe technically more proficient. Or at least technically they're on the same level, I would say. I reckon it's also probably because Obi-Wan trained him to be worse. You might be right.

I'd add that in if I were him. Yeah. I'd train him to be like blind to one particular move Like his left Yeah like his entire left If it came down to him and me I'd just stab him in the left Oh man

But there is that moment where Everyone's like Anakin you idiot Palpatine's evil And he's like well from my point of view the Jedi are evil Come on Come on. Come on. Come on, man. At this point still? Put it together.

Right? You know? Yeah, anyways, this is all broken up, though, with the Yoda fight with Palpatine. And look, I'm not a huge fan of that. And Yoda in this movie also, for one, Anakin goes to him and is like, I'm sad and I'm having bad dreams. And he goes, well, you know what you should do? You shouldn't worry that people should die because they become part of the force. You know?

Great. That's really helpful. It is helpful, isn't it? That's super cool. But that whole Sidious fight, I don't know. It's interesting. I mean, I like the idea that, you know, he gives him a big force push and he tips over the chair and you see he's wearing like black suit slacks under his robe.

I like all that. We were all expecting white boxes with red love hearts on them. Weren't we just? Yeah. I don't know. But you know, at the end, Yoda's just like, I'm going. Yeah. I don't know.

I just kind of. It's interesting, isn't it? Yeah. Because he kind of, he had to get there. He had to end up on Dagobah and be defeated and miserable. Yeah. Yeah. It absolutely felt like he went,

well, this is how this has to go, so I guess I give up now. Because I remember leading up to this, you know, after watching Return of the Jedi, there's a line where Yoda says to Luke in that, don't underestimate the power of the Emperor. But I don't think that fight conveys that the Emperor got the better of him. You know? I think, you know, that he kind of, I mean, he fell,

but it was mostly pretty even, you know what I mean? Yeah, right. I think he should have been, like, thoroughly beaten. Thoroughly beaten or, like, beaten in, like, a blackmail way. Like, well, maybe you could beat me, Yoda, but if you, I'll kill you, I'll kill your weird wife, you know? Yaddle? Yeah, Yaddle. Okay, cool.

You know Yaddle, that character that was in the first movie? I'm going to kill that, whatever that is. I'm going to kill it. So bloody get out of here. Yeah, get out. I assume you know and love Yaddle because you look sort of the same. Could have done Grogu. I mean, but this was before Grogu, wasn't it?

That's true. This all leads into, of course, Anakin's big accident. Is that what we're calling it? Yeah, he's in a big accident oh you know it's it's like wetting your pants times a million that is true yeah very embarrassing as an adult especially wow i want to talk about the high ground though specifically how does that work okay because first of all uh you shouldn't just do a big flip over somebody i mean we've seen it because it's rude is what you're saying very rude yeah it's very gauche yeah yeah if somebody did a big flip over me i'd be worried that they read something on my phone like they were reading my texts or whatever get out of here stop it because you know he could have just jumped to the bank in front of obi-wan and they could have just continued having a sword fight but i think the way that i justify how this happens is that i think obi-wan

goaded him into it okay i think he was just bullshitting about the high ground because i because i know like strategically in battle it is an advantage but in this situation you have a gun yeah if you have a gun yeah but in this situation i just don't really see how it applies and i think you know obi-wan being like i've got the high ground you better not do anything was like a way of being like i'm gonna see if i can get him to do a somersault it was a real don't throw me in the briar patch moment exactly yeah that's what i think happened here you know i mean everybody has their own version of this in their mind i guess but yeah wow i imagine at this point many many uh martial artists and sword fighters

have weighed in about whether that was the wise move. And they all think I'm wrong? Yeah. Yeah, I asked them all. They signed this petition. You have to stop doing YouTube. Anyways, the movie wraps up on a big montage.

You know, she lost the will to live, et cetera. Qui-Gon's back. He's used the Force and he's back and he's a ghost. Darth Vader being, no! Should have just screamed. Doesn't matter. Whatever. It's in the force and he's back and he's a ghost uh darth vader being no no should have just screamed doesn't matter whatever it's in the movie isn't it i was also hoping for like half a movie i shall call you darth vader why though because he had it ready to go he probably had a list yeah you're telling me he didn't have that so it's good yeah i guess but i mean i just i'm just curious as to where the names come from. Yeah, no, you might be right. Vader sounds like father, is that what it is?

I don't know. I think it's just a word that George Lucas picked in the 70s. It just has a good mouth feel, I think. Darth Vader, yes. Yes. Yes. Ah! And then he's shooting lightning?

Yeah, he's shooting lightning. This afternoon's been very productive, yes. I was, you know, leading into these movies. I'm going to take the rest of the day off. Leading into these movies, though, I always kind of hoped for more Darth Vader. And look, we have seen that since. You know what I mean?

But it seems as this was going to be like the last we'd see of these characters apparently. And I don't actually think that was ever supposed to be the case. You know, I think I know George Lucas has kind of stood by at the time that this was going to be it. But I don't think, you know, he actually meant that. Hollywood is full of lies. Exactly. But, you know, just him kind of stepping off the table and having a big scream. And then, you know, it cuts to him on a ship and he crosses his arms.

It's like, okay, that's, you know. I'm feeling better now. I had a rough morning, but I've processed it now. This suit chafes a little, but at least I'm back on my robot legs. I've been given a balm. I put a balm on. Just look like they put the suit over the birds, really. Yeah, they did, didn't they?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably part of the anger and the pain and all of those things. The suit squirts out a balm. Yeah, you'd hope so. Yeah, you'd reckon. Yeah. Do you think he's the chosen one? Nah.

George Lucas says he is, so you're wrong. Oh, damn it. And there's other- I went, it was 50-50, and I took a shot. I mean, there's other interpretations of it, you know what I mean? So, who knows, really. But that's what George Lucas said. Okay. Anyway, it's the twin sons because and I took a shot. I mean, there's other interpretations of it, you know what I mean? So who knows, really. But that's what George Lucas said. Anyway, it's the twin sons because that was in a movie.

And then the music goes. Now look. And then it's the disco version. I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan too. Now look. Yes. I need to specify this as I have every week.

And I've got more things to say because I've got to do green trivia, obviously. Of course. We haven't covered everything. Oh, what? For example, Yoda's lightsaber controversy. We've been going long enough. Agreed. It feels like we've covered everything, but all right.

What's Yoda's lightsaber controversy? Where in a comic his lightsaber is destroyed, but then it turns up in an episode of the Book of Boba Fett. But, you know, maybe he had two. It doesn't really matter. I'd have a backup for sure. Yeah, definitely. You know what I mean?

Yeah. You've got two sets of keys, right? That's exactly what I'm saying. Imagine you show up to a big battle and you check your glove box and you're like, ah. That's right. I left it at home. Exactly. Now, we haven't mentioned- There's gloves in here.

No one does that for real. There's no gloves in there, no. Now, obviously, of course, this title was taken from the original title of Return of the Jedi. Which is going to be Revenge of the Jedi. That's right. So I really like that. There's a lot of behind-the-scenes footage of Ewan McGregor just training in blue jeans. And I'm like, oh, I don't like that.

No, just going to the gym in his jeans. Yeah. He's a gym jeans guy. I don't like it. No, weird. What's those people's story? Exactly. Yeah.

And look, you know, anything that you wish we had have talked about, you can absolutely leave it below. and look you know anything that you you know wish we had have talked about you can absolutely leave it below but look i implore you look if you're here to say well they're not very good but at least they're not the disney the disney trilogy yeah okay i've seen it i know i like a million times i've seen that oh do you think it's an incredibly hot take it is very hot do you think we should do a tidbits episode where it's just stuff we didn't mention? Oh, wow, yeah. We'll do a commenter version.

Yeah, yeah. We can just rattle stuff off and make fun of it. I would love that, actually. Just the whole thing of the trilogy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Folks, put some facts in the comments, and we will... We might do it.

We will explain to you personally why we left that part out on purpose. Exactly. Anyway, it's time for green trivia. Green trivia. So the Millennium Falcon is in this. There's a moment where you see it like leave Coruscant or whatever.

So it is the Millennium Falcon, not that particular model of ship. Well, look, in Legends it is, but also who knows what's happened since then. When it turns up in Solo, it's got that bit jammed in the front of it. Yeah, but that's probably an addition. Maybe he ejected the nose bit in Solo and then he got an extra nose bit later on.

Exactly. I mean, this is before Solo, but yes. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Also, they were actually going to use archival footage and digital trickery to put Peter Cushing in this movie, which couldn't be done at the time considering what they had, so they recast the role.

And it couldn't be done later when they did it. That next time. Some would argue that, yes, it couldn't be done the time they actually did it. They should have put him on a hologram. You know what I mean? But don't get me wrong,

it's a technical marvel. Or a voicemail. Just a voicemail. Hello, this is Tarkin. You're talking to Tarkin. It's Tarkin Talk. Oh, wait. Oh, this is Tarkin. Hello. You're talking to Tarkin. It's Tarkin Talk. Oh, wait. Oh, this is a voicemail.

Oh, um, uh, uh, death to the rebels. I'll call you later. I'll call you later. Love you, mum. Is mum still alive for some reason? Bye, Moff Mum. You might not actually know this, but the working title for the original Star Wars was Blue Harvest.

I didn't know that. That's a great fact to know. Thanks, man. So General Grievous, of his four lightsabers that we see him holding, two of them match the designs exactly to that of Anakin and Obi-Wan. What? Which makes me think that... There was extra props on set. They had a digital copy of that, obviously, because you can just copy and paste in the computer.

There's a fun fact for you. That's terrific. But also, every design we've seen in the Clone Wars is archived. So either they copied it or somebody else did, or it's just a generic template. Yeah, maybe. Right, right. They got it on AliExpress.

Standard lightsaber. That's it. George Lucas actually appears in this movie, as do his kids. Oh, thank God I picked one-day delivery. Left my lightsaber at home. My spare wasn't in the glove box. George Lucas actually appears in this movie, as do his kids. For example, the Jedi that Jimmy Smits sees get cut down,

that's Jet Lucas, his son. Oh. Also, in the trailer, you might have noticed, because I know you watch the trailer for this movie most mornings. Absolutely, yeah. Gets you jazzed for for this movie most mornings. Absolutely, yeah. Gets you jazzed for your rise and grind lifestyle. That's right. In the trailer, his arms are up when he comes off the table,

but then in the movie they're down. And George requested that it was CGI'd to have them placed down, and then that's why he pulls them up when he gets off the table. I see. So, yeah, I don't know why, but that's in it. That would suggest that somewhere on a hard drive, there's a version where he's got forearms. Yeah.

Just the midpoint. Can we have that, please? If you've got that, we want it. We don't, like, it's, just give us it. And yes, I know they would have deleted the arms first. I don't care. Give us it. I think there's forearms.

I think there's a forearm version. Goro. It's Goro, yeah. Yeah. And the last bit of green trivia. I'm going to make this really green trivia, Mason. So this is one of the shiniest C-3PO's we've ever seen and as a result, he reflects everything

like the crew, the camera, the green screen. So it was somebody's job to go in and painstakingly take out all of that reflection stuff in every single frame that he's in. They learn nothing from Robocop. Original Robocop. That's why he's blue in the sequel. Oh, really? Because he reflected too much camera stuff.

I can't believe they learned nothing from the movie Robocop 2. Right? Ridiculous. Amazing. Anyways, what a journey! Wow, across this trilogy of films including every single video game that they've had of those, isn't it? We did all of them. Correct, yes. Amazing. Just want to say a huge thank you, first of all, to you, Mason.

Thank you. You're very welcome. I know you hate Star Wars. I'm not a huge fan. I'm not the hugest. I like some Star Wars, you know? Yeah, yeah. And also, an even bigger thanks to both Ben and Lawrence for editing these together. That's right. There's a reason they came out, you know, two weeks apart, because there's so much.

Star Wars is so much. These are way too long. Now, a lot of people have said, can you come back and talk about the originals and the sequels? And I think, yeah, we will do that and we'll probably do them in that order maybe every year or two years.

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Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows that comes out there on sunday as opposed to monday basically that's how we pay a lot of the bills we keep the lights on you know what i mean pay all the editors and all of that but thank you for coming on this journey uh just shut up about the sequels shut up about them i i know you think this is the way you're gonna wind this up yep everyone shut up i just i'm sick of it you know at least it's not yes

I understand your feelings on that I get it if you're a person in the world that's what I feel like is your default setting you know

I don't need you to tell me I know nice that's great anyways but no thank you for watching

I grabbed out jam with you guys we'll see you next time oh here's I found another oh my god these expressions that Christopher Lee is doing god he's a professional this guy I agree I grabbed out Jim, you guys. We'll see you next time. Oh, I found another. Oh, my God. These expressions that Christopher Lee is doing. God, he's a professional, this guy.

I agree. I mean, he was a professional. Yeah, he's dead. What? Yeah, he died. Oh, I just thought he slackened off a bit. Got lazy. Yeah, got lazy.

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