The Weekly Planet - Super Mario Bros. The Movie - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: February 14, 2020

With the Sonic The Hedgehog movie hitting cinemas now is the absolute prefect and hopefully only time to visit the 1993 cult classic, Super Mario Bros the movie. This is our Caravan Of Garbage review.SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/51GQUyeag9gJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownTWP Itunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4T-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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We're all excited for the Sonic the Hedgehog movie. But is it going to be good, right? No, no, no. Okay, my apologies. Well, here's the problem. The difficulty I feel like in translating a video game to the big screen depends on the era of the video game. Like modern day video games, it's like 20 or 30 or like 50 hours of gameplay.

And it's, you know, so much story and so much character development. You're talking like a Witcher, for example. Exactly, like a Witcher. And there's so many like, just inherently like cinematic memorable moments. And it feels like whittling it down to two hours is... It's not impossible.

It's not impossible. It's kind of like it does it a disservice. But on the other hand, video games, like classic video games from back in the day hours is it's not impossible it's not impossible it's kind of like it does it a disservice but on the other hand video games like classic video games from back in the day have so little plot you can you can explain the whole game in like one sentence like mario goes to the mushroom kingdom to rescue a princess and also luigi is there for some reason okay two sentences but you could probably mention he kills many turtles on the way. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. That's fine too. But of course, we are talking about the Super Mario Brothers movie.

A big swing and a miss in terms of adaptations. But it's a big swing, isn't it? Yes, that's right. Mario and Sonic have a classic history together. We know that because they were both at the 1936 Olympics. That's absolutely right. Did you know that? Bitter rivals turn best friends?

No, no, they were both Nazi supporters. Oh, that's a shame. Mario, big fan of Mussolini. Sonic was a Nazi experiment for obvious reasons. Oh, absolutely. That's right. How else would he get his speed? Actual speed. Doing a lot of speed. This was the peak of kind of your Super Nintendo and your

Sega Genesis slash Mega Drive hype. This would have been like a couple years after Super Mario World, right? Yeah. Super Mario World, depending, you know, where it came out in the world roughly 1990 anyways if people could leave a like on this video that would be great because look there's not going to be a lot to like here if i'm honest oh yeah okay right because there's nothing to mario if you want it if you wanted to do an animated mario movie it's all right there that's what mario looks like but it's like what do you hang a live action

movie on i guess you build a weird future dystopia alternate reality new york blade runner covered in fungus i guess i don't really know i read that one of the directors uh one of the the production designers was like we should make it like max headroom yes tv series that was cancelled mid-season yeah right well the directors who worked on this actually worked on Max Headroom. That's not a coincidence. So that blames that. It was Leitmotiv and Allied Filmmakers who put this together. They tried to ease you into the video game-ness of it with a 16-bit dinosaur explanation up

top. Yeah. Told by like a real, forget about it, it's recounting the history of the Mario Brothers or whatever. That's Homer Simpson himself. Oh, Dan Castellanato. That's right. So the cast, though, that's a great piece of casting.

Bob Hoskins, John Leguizamo, Samantha Mathis, Dennis Hopper, Lance Hendrickson, briefly. You know what I mean? There's Fisher Stevens, who was the Indian guy from Short Circuit. He's not really Indian. He's not really Indian. Excuse me? He's not really a lizard man either.

1990 stalwart Fisher Stevens. Exactly yeah so that's that's great like the fact that they managed to get all those people on board is really terrific and there are some really interesting special effects and world building i feel here to some extent but why did they do this well it doesn't see here's the thing though who's it for who's it. I mean, you would imagine that this is for like summer vacation or whatever. And you say, you know, you take your kids to the movies. But what kid is going to be like, Dad, is that 1960s countercultural icon Dennis Hopper from Easy Ride? Is that who that is? He was in Rebel Without a Cause, Dad. He was.

He's in one of the seasons of 24. Upcoming. Yeah. I just don't really understand it. Also, do kids want to see, because this is really who this is for, do kids want to see a 50-year-old brocast Mario doing actual plumbing? Excuse me, he's canonically 25. Okay, you're right.

So he is in the world of Nintendo. Side note, they have a very bizarre apartment. They've got, like, plungers on the walls like they're rifles. Are they used plungers or do they display plungers? No, they're plungers that they've done some great plumbing with. They've immortalised. So their whole apartment smells of poop. Yeah, 100%.

What I think they were going for here was the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. You ghostbusters. That kind of edgy, sort of kids-ish kind of movie. I think that's what this was. Because apparently Nintendo had no particular directions for the production team. They're like, just do whatever you want. We don't care. Mario will live beyond whatever this is.

Which is certainly true. I've actually got what Nintendo thought of this movie, which we can talk about at the end. Oh, I'm excited for that later. Okay, great. But I want to talk about some other casting. At one point, they were considering Danny DeVito. He was attached. Okay. Makes sense, I guess. Yeah, for sure excited for that later. Okay, great. But I want to talk about some other casting. At one point, they were considering Danny DeVito. He was attached. Okay.

Makes sense, I guess. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, because he was doing, you know, Twins and Batman Returns, which is sort of a kid's movie, I guess, technically. Tom Hanks was considered for the role of Luigi, which I find interesting. But the failures of Turner and Hooch and Joe vs. the Volcano led the studios to believe that Hanks was no longer a box office draw.

Oh, my God. can you imagine that era? I know, let me name his next seven films that came out after this. Sleepless in Seattle. Big Hit. Philadelphia. Big Hit. Forrest Gump. Big Hit.

Toy Story. Big Hit. Apollo 13. Let me think. Big Hit. That Thing You Do. Moderate Hit. Saving Private Ryan.

Oh, Big Hit, back on form. Huge Hit. Yes. So, I wonder if he on form. Huge hit. Yes. So I wonder if he had have done this, would he have had that career? Probably not, no. Yeah. Schwarzenegger also was wanted for King Cooper, as was Michael Keaton, who was so rich he would never have done it at this point.

Yeah, because he'd just come off several Batmans. Yes, that's right. At least one Batman. Two Batmans. Two Batmans. He's King Cooper in this. He's not Bowser. No. Is that significant? Doesn't matter. Is least one Batman. Two Batmans. Two Batmans. He's King Cooper in this. He's not Bowser. No.

Is that significant? Doesn't matter. Is anything in this significant? Not really. You're asking the wrong question. Did they base this off like the manual for Super Mario World? It's funny you say that because there's some things here that are directly translated. Very few things, I might add.

And some things are just in name only. I've got a list here. Yes. Big Bertha. Nothing like the video game at all. Toad? Just a guitar guy? Apparently they wanted an actual musician,

so they got Mojo Nixon. But they only got him because Tom Waits pulled out. Oh, my God. They asked gravelly voiced neo-Gothic singer Tom Waits, and he was like, no. There was also an earlier version of this script with like recognizable elements but if any of these characters had different names how far do you think you would have watched this movie if you didn't know it was super mario brothers yes they had different names before

you figured it out i think i would have got up to the costumes yeah well it's it's because maybe the bob-ombs this this yeah probably the bob-ombs but the bomb this this yeah probably the bomb but i think this this movie may have worked better and it would be better regarded if it was just like called like two weird guys from brooklyn fall into a parallel dimension but yeah it's it's weird because it's this bizarre kind of max headroom universe and they're like well this is going to be a little bit gritty and a little bit adult and a little bit real but at the same time it's like but mario and luigi jump so we've got to give them a rocket boot yeah we've got to give them their their little coveralls you know we haven't even mentioned what the story is about you touched on it briefly then but they do stumble in a parallel

dimension because when the comet that killed the dinosaurs hit earth it splintered the universe so some of the dinosaurs went to live in one specific spot in another dimension yes they evolved into humans but what was was this dimension just empty like a big desert dimension see i must have misremembered it when i saw it as a kid because i thought it was just a parallel dimension where dinosaurs evolved but it's actually a dimension where the the asteroid that we thought killed the dinosaurs shunted them into a parallel dimension. But just them? Just them.

Nothing else? No mammals? No fish? Maybe some stone and some brick? Maybe some stone and some brick. Exactly. And they want back in. Well, Cooper specifically wants to merge the universes.

You know what he could do? Just walk through that portal. Just him. Just him. Why does he need to bring everything? Because who's he need to bring everything because who's he going to contend with like the scapallis like those real estate moguls that when they perform like corporate sabotage they're wearing the shirts of the company that they're from that's

right so i feel like if he just walked through with maybe two guys maybe not even he'd probably have a pretty good shot to take over new york 100 yeah also side note maybe not a side note you were saying a note a note how you were saying how long would i would it have taken me to figure out this was a mario brothers movie how long did you watch this movie thinking to yourself this movie's boring i reckon maybe 25 minutes i reckon about the first 25 minutes this movie is quite dull until they drop into the parallel universe yeah before that it's just like regular plumbing and just regular plumbing and stuff just again just two guys just trying to get some plumbing work in new york city okay but i i wasn't really bored because it's fascinating

oh like it's not good no but it's fascinating i'm also fascinated by the budget of this because it was a 48 million dollar movie and i think some of it is put to good use and some of it really isn't here's some comparison movies from 1993 i'm ready drastic park 63 million dollars a little bit more fugitive 44 million schindler's list 22 million groundhog day was made for 14 million i mean that's just a real town isn't it they're not building a weird that is true yes dinosaur dimension or whatever maybe phil connors went into a weird dinosaur dimension at some point yeah but there's things like the puppets that they make are incredible those big goomba suits yeah that's it's clearly like a like a big rig that people wear on top of their shoulders with a tiny little animatronic heads

apparently there's 200 feet of cable inside yoshi with nine puppeteers controlling him at any one time you can't ride him though so like why put him in right you know what i mean yeah like what's he doesn't he's not even green right he's just a dinosaur well that's the thing and cooper for the most part is just a guy and he's got a forked tongue like he's a crooked real estate developer with a forked tongue or should i say a regular real estate developer oh Oh, mate. I've got them. You really have. I really... But, like, they're just...

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a secret the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost fx is the veil starring elizabeth moss is now streaming on Disney+. Yeah. How many actual Nintendo nods did you, like, direct things did you recognize? I think there's some sound effects. There's the ba-bombs. There's the super scope, which is the de-evolution gun. Some jumping. There was definitely some jumping, wasn't there?

And I guess the outfits. But the links are so tenuous that you're kind of looking for them and you're not even really sure if the thing that you've seen is actually a reference or not. Again, two weird plumbers from Brooklyn. Yeah, that's right, yeah. Better movie, in my opinion. What about how this movie disintegrates the two towers?

A chilling insight into the future of regular Manhattan. There's a few movies like that that kind of hint towards the destruction of the two towers. It's kind of odd. I guess they were massive landmarks, but you watch that now and you're like, ooh, Jesus. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I do. I think at one point somebody says after that, they'll do anything for publicity or whatever, these bloody real estate agents. Yeah, they'll disintegrate the two towers for publicity's sake. That's right. That's good for your brand, isn't it? It did wonders for the Taliban.

Fucking hell. Well, we all know who they are, don't we? That's a good point. You may not like them, but you know them. So the directors of this, Rocky Morton and Annabelle Jankel. Husband and wife team? Husband and wife team. They were hired based on their work on Max Headroom.

Coming back to that again for some reason. There you go. Who would have thought we'd ever be talking about Max Headroom? So the cast and crew disliked them so much for their alleged obnoxious and controlling behaviours. Bob Hoskins referred to them as, he called them the sea bomb and the cow. Who's who?

Who's to say? And at one point, Dennis Hopper was so fed up with a drawn out and constantly changing production that he spent almost three hours yelling at the directors, Dennis Hopper was so fed up with a drawn-out and constantly changing production that he spent almost three hours yelling at the directors holding up filming. That's a long time. That is a long time. Three hours of yelling, of straight yelling.

Right? I don't know. What do you think he yelled? Do you think he just yelled, like, shopping lists and stuff? Here's a fact that I know. It was meant to be five weeks of filming, but Dennis Hopper was there for 17 weeks. Oh, my God.

That's incredible. It's too 17 weeks. Oh my God. That's incredible. It's too many weeks. Way too many. His son said to him, why did you make that terrible movie? And he said, well, Henry, I did that so you could have shoes. And his son said, Dad, I don't need shoes that badly. I hope this was like on the red carpet premiere. Absolutely.

John Leguizamo and Boboskins were apparently constantly drunk throughout the filming of this to kind of get through it again 17 weeks and in a 2011 interview bob hoskins described the film's production it was a fucking nightmare the whole experience was a nightmare it had a husband and wife team directing whose arrogance had been mistaken for talent after so many weeks their own agent told them to get off this set. Fucking nightmare. Fucking idiots. And that was nearly two decades after he filmed it. And that's notoriously even-keeled actor Bob Hoskins. That's right.

He set that guy off. The amazing thing is, though, he did Roger Rabbit where he talked to nobody for months. That's right, yeah. And this is the one that broke it. But I guess when you've got no clear direction and you think it's run by people who don't know what they're doing. Here's the thing, though.

I think they did know what they're doing to an extent they had this vision, but it was just not a good vision. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, because I think when you go into a movie, I think with directors you have to have a certain sense of arrogance and, you know, like a surety about yourself. Exactly, that's right. You know what I mean?

A confidence that inspires others to do their best work. Yes, that's right. For 17 weeks, you know, like a surety about yourself. Exactly, that's right. You know what I mean? A confidence that inspires others to do their best work. Yes, that's right. For 17 weeks, you know? You might have them there for as long as many, many months. Oh, my God, can you imagine? How many months that is. This is one of my favourite things in it as well of movies like this. It's a cliffhanger ending because I love the idea of just a movie so crap

and yet so bold that they're like we'll see you again we'll see you again real soon yeah there is actually a sequel comic to this though some of the writers who were involved in it a few years back actually made a web comic of the continuing adventures of mario louise they go back to dino hatton it's just like oh they're all dead oh well back to plumbing i guess i guess that's good. Yeah. That's right. Are we being too harsh on this? Because I know it's considered like a cult classic. It's a cult classic, right. But it's not good, right?

I can see how you could look at it and go, this is fun and there's some fun elements and why did they do this? But objectively, and I don't like to use that word because, you know, there's no real such thing in film criticism, but not good, right? Let's focus on the positive. What's good? What's good in this? Well well this is what nintendo thought how about that the bob hoskins uh dance sequence sure yeah that's good that's pretty great casting overall is good i think the surprise lance hendrickson cameo great stuff great great work there's a big pile of goo and then he was in it for a half a

second or whatever yeah okay this is what nintendo thought though uh apparently they were very polite shigeru miyamoto mario's creator said in the end it was a fun project they put a lot of effort into but he also said the one thing that i still have some regrets about is that the movie may have tried to get a little too close to what mario bros the video games was and in that sense it became a movie that was about a video game rather than being an entertaining movie in and of itself. That, to me, says that he has not seen this. But I get what, I sort of get what, look, the man speaks in riddles, but I get what he's saying in the sense that they went, okay, we've got to pile in strange references.

You know, Mario's got to jump because Mario jumps in the game kind of thing, you know? That's something you could take out. That being said, you take it out, what is this movie? Right. It's just Italians running amok, as we know. They should have called it Italians running amok. Running amok.

Yeah. Look, that being said, even though Nintendo were like, they gave it a good go. We didn't get another Nintendo movie until Detective Pikachu. So this did something to make them go, let's not do this ever again. They vetoed Super Mario being in Wreck-It Ralph. Oh, yeah. This obviously made them be very wary of attaching their name

to things like this. We did get some animated series stuff. You've probably seen some of those, which was much more faithful and kind of more suited to this kind of storytelling, I guess. 100%, yeah. That's the Mario universe. It's a fun, whimsical world with kind of like fun little caricatures. How would you do this?

It's not a man dropping a C-bomb at every conceivable opportunity. How would you do this as a movie? Because they've got Sonic coming into the real world. Yeah, right. Would you just do a completely animated Mario doesn't talk much 3D film where he has to do a rescue? I mean, you could, but at the same time, that's what the video games are. Yes, that's what I'm saying.

That's Mario doing a rescue. Yeah. And you can't have Mario, the kind of squat little animated man, coming into the real world because then people will be like, where did you come from? Kill that man. Yes, if he is even a man. Yeah, and I mean at this point as well, when you talk about Super Mario Galaxy or Super Mario Odyssey,

these games at this point have storyline and they have characters and we don't need a movie version anymore, I think. Well, you'll be happy to know that there's a Super Mario Bros. movie scheduled for 2022. Oh, thank God. I retract everything that I said. I just hope it's a sequel to this. That'd be incredible. Just resurrect Bob Hoskins with CGI.

You can do that now. They brought Tarkin back. You think they can't bring back Bob Hoskins? They can bring back Bob Hoskins. Yeah, just get all these outtakes of him going what is happening what am i supposed to be looking at right absolutely yes that's right apparently also john leguizamo was said since that he likes that people like this movie like he at the time he's like this is a disaster but he's like it found its audience and that's and that's good so he doesn't regret it

he's done some good stuff so good on him i guy. Me too. I'm glad he still works despite this. Well, I mean, this was kind of his movie debut, so it could have been his only movie appearance. That's right, yeah. Do you want some good news off the back of this, though? Yes. Lance Hendrickson met Jane Evans, a woman he would go on to marry on this film.

There you go. Was she some ooze? No. Oh. She was his second wife, and he's had a third since good for him it's still good news hey when you know you know love blossomed that's right like a fungus like a fungus anyways this has been care about a garbage what is what what's your favorite part about this movie how about that sure if if you like this movie yeah what's your favorite bit

yeah if you like mario video games what's your favourite bit of this? Is it the bit where they jumped? Is it the bit where they danced? Is it the bit where they looked into some dirty plumbing? Is it the bit with the big rubber T-Rex in a big bucket? Yeah. Is it the bit where they unclogged a toilet? Is it the bit where they turned that man into a chimpanzee?

I think we've covered all the bits. Yeah. Baby and an egg? Is it that bit? Oh, it could be Baby and an egg. Is it that bit? Oh, it could be baby and an egg. Yeah. Okay. Right.

Right. Right. But if you do have a suggestion for Caravan of Garbage, we'd love to hear it. We're open to all suggestions, aren't we, Mason? Absolutely. Is there a better video game movie than this? There's not a lot of them, but yeah, there's definitely. Oh, there sure is.

Street Fighter is better than this, unless it's street fighting. You know, it makes sense. I mean, it's not all street fighting, but you know, they're fighting each other in arenas one-on-one. I mean, some of the time. Some of the time. There's precious little fighting on an actual street in the movie Street Fighter. That's a good point.

Also, of course, if you'd like a hint towards next week, here's a clip. Fuck to find out what it is. Mason, I don't. I'm so bamboozled. I can bring up my list. Do you want me to bring up my list? Bring up the list.

Well, give the audio listeners. Yeah, a little taste. A little taste. I mean, the listeners would be audio listeners by default. No, these are the real listeners, though. That's right. Those chumps on the video don't know what's what. I just don't like them, any of them.

Yeah, I'm happy to say it. I don't mind the people who listen to this and watch it. They're my favourite, obviously. Of course they are. But anybody who just watches the videos, get out of here. Get out of here, right? There's a special place at Elf for you. Also, if any of you rats who just listened to the audio version

rat us out to just the video viewers, you're dead to us, you rats. You are bashed, you rats. The Mummy Returns. We're coming back to that. That's right. There we go. There you go. Okay.

I'm at MrSundayMovies on Twitter. I'm at WikipediaBrand on Twitter. Please tell us a very specific and niche thing that we missed from this stupid movie. What error did we make about it? Please, get real pedantic. That's my favourite thing. Is it something about a bob-omb?

Is it something about some bullet bills? There was a neon sign. We missed that, didn't we? We didn't say that, did we? We didn't just say it on a list of things. So get us with that, with a list of things. A list of things that were on signs. Yeah.

You know? Anyways, I'll see you next week. Grabbed our jammy, guys. We'll see you next week. I said see you next week. I shouldn't have said see you next week because then you said it after me. I'll say it again.

Okay. Thanks, guys. Have a great time. Do you want me to say the thing that I said before? No, man. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean, if you want.

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