The Weekly Planet - Superman II - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: February 18, 2021

Building off the good work done in Superman The Movie in 1978, Superman II this time around brings the action with three evil Kryptonian villains lead by General Zod. However this movie was absolutely riddled with problems all stemming from the firing of original director Richard Donner who was replaced with Richard Lester. It's a wild ride. Thanks for listening!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/RX6LSsyvNzYJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4#Superman #DCComics Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca That's sunrisechallenge.ca This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates We're back for Caravan of Garbage Talking about what is considered by many The gold standard of not only Superman movies But comic book movies in general Superman 2

Superman 2 From 1980 or as you told me before the show, 81, depending where you were in the world. Australia apparently got it six months before everybody else did. Why? Don't know. Australia is mentioned. Lex Luthor wants Australia. Maybe they're like, it's good enough for us.

You know how Australians, any kind of mention of Australia in a movie, we're like, oh, yes, please. Thank you for noticing, finally. We demand this movie now. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, this Superman 2 is, of the Christopher Reeve Superman movies, probably the one I've seen most. Yeah, same.

Probably because it's the one that was on TV most when I was a kid. It's got the action. It's got the action. It's got Superman versus three beings of equal power, probably, maybe? What's going on with anybody's powers in this movie? See, it's interesting coming back to this movie that I loved as a kid. And I say loved because... Three people die at the end.

That's why I love it. They fall into a bottomless pit and never return. I think this movie's broken. How so? Because it's clearly a mishmash of two different styles and ideas. So I'm going to go through why that is the case, if you don't mind. I can do it up top. How so? Because it's clearly a mishmash of two different styles and ideas. Yeah. So I'm going to go through why that is the case, if you don't mind. I can do it up top.

Oh, I see. People have to leave a like, though, if I'm going to do that, obviously. I'll wait. How long will you wait, though? As long as it takes. Huh. They did it. They all did it.

Everyone did it. So that's good, yeah. So, again, we mentioned last week how it was an 18-month shoot to get this done as well as the first movie. There were long days for everybody. Filming two movies at once is pretty much impossible. Richard Donner kept it together. He didn't really have a production budget or a schedule, but they were just always like,

you're behind and you're over budget. And he's like, specifically how? Sure, all right. Puzo says you're over budget and behind schedule. I got his script rewritten. I don't give a shit what Puzo thinks. But yeah, so this ended up being like a lot shorter than the other one. It's just a bit over two hours.

Now, three quarters of the original Superman 2 was filmed, right? Something like that? Yeah, maybe even more. With Richard Donner at the helm. And then they were like, we're scrapping all of it. We're starting again. So essentially, as soon as the first movie came out, they fired Dick Donner at the helm. Yes. And then they were like, we're scrapping all of it. We're starting again. So essentially, as soon as the first movie came out, they fired Dick Donner.

Straight away, they weren't happy with him. They were arguing with the producers. Well, like Dick Donter, they said. So they said to him. And he was like, rude. And they were like, we don't care. We don't care. That's not how you pronounce your name.

That's right. So he, of course, does get the famous Donner cut of this film, which came out in the mid-2000s. So to get credit for this movie, Richard Lester needed to film 51% of it, right? That's why his name is at the top of this movie. So 30% of the footage remains. They filmed the rest of it in 1979,

and you can see in a lot of moments that it is a combination of styles and even the same scenes filmed years apart like there's a moment yeah where the kryptonians bust into uh the daily planet a lot of that is filmed like you know one was filmed in 77 one was filmed in 79 terence stamp had lost a leg by that point it's a wooden leg yet a peg leg it's really obvious when you when you see it when you it's pointed out to you so but because of this, there was massive backlash for those involved. John Williams, who composed the score for the first movie, which is iconic to this day, it's an incredible score.

He decided after seeing the rough cut of Superman II, the Richard Lester version, that he could no longer commit to the project. Which is why the credits say music by someone based on original compositions by John Williams. Exactly, yeah. Margot Kidder hated it as well because she had less to do. She just basically sat around in her trailer for most of it

and then they'd pedal her out and she'd go, oh, Superman, oh no. She was like, fuck that, it was a bunch of bullshit. They could have got her broom with a wig. Exactly. And the style that they took, drastically different, right? So this is a quote from Richard Lester about the direction that he took was drastically different, right? So this is a quote from Richard Lester about the direction that he took

coming at this, okay? So he says, I think that Donna was emphasising a kind of grandiose myth, that kind of David Lean-ish attempt in our several sequences, an enormous scale that was this type of epic quality, which isn't in my nature, so my work really didn't embrace that. That's not me. I'm more quirky and i play

around with slightly more unexpected silliness so yeah you can definitely see that and even more so in superman 3 a movie that he had complete creative control on it's just nonsense and there's a lot of like nonsense in this movie and a common criticism for this movie at the time and also since is a lot of it is like it just looks flat like it's like it's like a sitcom like you go into a room and it's it's framed like they're comic book panels that's the idea so that's like one person standing on the one side of the room and the other one's on the other and they're just kind of chattering back and forth at each other and of course jeffrey uh usworth who was the cinematographer on the first one and he did 2001 a space odyssey he died like

immediately after the first one so he couldn't a space odyssey he died like immediately after the first one so he couldn't come back so that's why this movie looks great sometimes and then doesn't look very good other times a lot of the time and also has a suspiciously edited out marlon brando do you want to know about this well i think you regardless of what i want you're going to tell i was asking the listeners and watchers you hate mar hate Marlon Brando. I don't hate him. I just think he's a bad bloke. All right. And a good actor.

And maybe an activist, but also terrible. People can be many things. He's like 70-30. 70 being the terrible part. I understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go on. So you may have noticed that a lot of the scenes between Superman and the crystals that he talks to.

Sure. It's with Susanna York, who plays Lara, exactly, his Kryptonian mother. Because originally Richard Donner had filmed Superman talking to his father in this movie, but Marlon Brando sued and won a share of the first film's gross and the lawsuit also awarded him a share

of this film's gross, even though he doesn't appear in it, so he had to be replaced in his scenes. And you see moments at the start, you remember the Kryptonian council that happened in the first movie? Yeah, he's not in that. It happens again, but he's just not there. Yeah, he was the deciding vote in the original version, but not at all. That's interesting because you'd think that if he got a share of the gross,

you'd be like, well, in that case, Brando, you're going to have to be in every scene. Yeah, exactly. We're not going to make you do less work. We're going to make you do more work. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, we want you in the background cheering on Superman in every scene. Yeah, Superman.

Yeah. That's my Brando. He's obviously a better actor than me, obviously. Yeah. That's one of the qualities that he has that I don't. Correct. Anyway, look, I've prattled on enough. What do you think of this?

Do you mean in your career? Yeah, that's it. I'm ending it. Goodbye, everybody. We had a good run. He's getting up. He's actually getting out of his chair. He's getting out of his chair, but he hasn't taken his headphones off so i don't believe

him because he's a bad actor brando would have taken his headphones off and he would have never come back yeah okay what do you want to talk about now then okay so i think there's some good stuff in this okay go on christopher reeve as always and margot kidder them together is incredible there's a moment where he's discovered as super. It's dumb. We'll talk about it. But the moment he's revealed, you see him physically change. His posture shifts, his footing shifts. He turns around, the glasses come off, his head goes up. And it's like a transformation.

It's incredible. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. If you've ever read All-Star Superman, which is a comic book by Grant Morrison with the art by Frank Quitely, Frank had a very specific drawing style for Superman and specifically Clark Kent. Like if you see sort of past the suit, like the civilian clothes he's wearing, he's deliberately slouching down as Clark Kent

so you can't see that he's like a linebacker. He's like a thumb that's lost a thumb war. Yeah, and I wonder if that was inspired by Christopher Reeve in in this movie I'd imagine so yeah but you can definitely get the sense that like yeah I guess people could fall for this in a fictional universe sure yeah you know what I mean plus he's wearing glasses he's wearing glasses I'll be honest with you when so if somebody has glasses or takes them off or they put their hair down or whatever a lot of the time, can't recognise him. Fair enough, yeah.

But the way he's revealed is, like, she figures out that he's Superman and then kind of baits him into revealing himself, which he doesn't. You're crazy, Lois. Yeah, you idiot. You should be committed to a mental asylum. I'm going to fly you there, drive you there. Which I can do because I'm your legal guardian since the 80s or the late 70s or whatever.

Or whatever, yeah. So the way he's revealed is he trips on a fake bearskin rug maybe yep and falls into a fire and puts his hand in it but my question is how does superman trip good question because he's super fast there'd be a super fast recovery or he wouldn't trip he'd just go straight through it because he's superman several floors of the hotel they sort of just float and that'd be the biggest giveaway well that's it isn't it or his heat vision would go off and destroy her but then he'd be safe yeah and it's the 70s so he'd get away with it that's exactly right yeah yeah but i think also that they make mention that like maybe he did it subconsciously you know what i mean it's exactly right he's a man that doesn't trip really not intentionally yeah even in the 70s exactly and lsd was all the rage wasn't it Maybe he did it subconsciously. You know what I mean? No, he's exactly right. He's a man that doesn't trip, really. Not intentionally.

Even in the 70s. Exactly. And LSD was all the rage. Wasn't it just? One of my favourite scenes in this movie is the scene in which Lex Luthor and his henchmen escape prison. Yes. Because what happens, obviously, is that a prison guard goes to their cell and raps on the door and they're busy playing chess

and then the guard opens the door and they're busy playing chess. And then the guard opens the door to give them what for and then discovers that it's just a very sophisticated hologram of them staying up after lights out. Yeah, exactly. Maybe just make a hologram of you guys sleeping. Or no hologram. No hologram at all. Just bundle your sheets up a little bit.

Bundle some bed sheets together. What blew me away about... From the laundry where you work in the prison. I don't know. But what blew me away about that scene was that Lex Luthor has invented realistic 3D holographic projections. Yep. They're not even on a screen.

They're on nothing. Maybe... So he is smart? In some ways he is. Maybe market that and make a billion dollars off it. Maybe do that, yeah. This movie also has the classic superhero gives up their powers or sacrifices their powers for love.

Which I remember in my many watchings of it as a child being a really long portion of the movie. But in this, he gives up his powers, he gets beaten up, and he's like, well, the heck with this. I'm going back to the Fortress of Solitude to get my powers back. No, he looks at the TV. First of all, he gets thrown into a bunch of Coca-Cola signs. That is like Coca-Cola City in there.

Have you noticed that? That's right, yeah. I mean, it's not as bad as the Marlboro cigarettes branding that we get later. Just when he gets thrown into a truck. But yeah, he immediately regrets it, and then a kid who's going off to see the principal has to trudge his way back up to the North Pole.

He puts a bindle on the back of his stick and he's just like, I'm taking my bat and ball and going home. The Fortress of Solitude. I love also when he transforms into a human man. He's got some chinos and a nice crisp white shirt on, which should have been a giveaway at the end of the movie. Like when he tricks the Kryptonian criminals into giving up their powers, they should have all been like,

why am I wearing this crisp white button down and i a waiter what is this i do love that trick and i do want to talk about that whole sequence but what do you think about the idea that uh much like the henry cavill version he goes back for revenge you know what i mean like because they both yeah they both have incidents in a bar where they they teach a guy a lesson yeah what do you think about that i don't mind it i don't mind it either yeah it shows he's a He's petty. Yeah, they both have incidents in a bar where they teach a guy a lesson. What do you think about that? I don't mind it. I don't mind it either.

Yeah, it shows he's a little bit human. Yeah, because we have talked about this, how that, look, he's not perfect, and he does kill, as we've seen in this, and also other Superman movies. And Lois kills as well. And Lois kills, that's fine, exactly. But what do you think about the villains? I mean, that being said, it would be a little bit more disturbing if he took out all the rage of his entire life on this one guy in a bar, you know?

He's like, remember me? Well, I'm going to flick you into the sun. Why not? Yeah. Anyway, saying the villains. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London.

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Ah, gosh. I mean, they do a fun little whistle-stop walking tour of small-town America, don't they? Absolutely, they do. They could have just gone straight to Washington, I guess. Also, they filmed that in the UK. I'm like, pretty good. Also, how do powers work in this?

Again, we talked about last week how it was the start of the Superman silliness in movies. They're just lifting people up with their minds and levitating guns and all these kinds of things. Well, look, I'm sure some people would say that, you know, the... There's a moment where he walks on a sheet of glass on a lake. How does he do it? How did he put that glass there?

How did he do it? Good question. Anyway that glass there? How did he do it? Good question. Anyway, sorry, go on. I don't have any of the answers. Some people have said, who have thought about it more than us, have said that perhaps how Kryptonian physiology works is when you discover your powers, you get different ones depending on what you attempt, maybe.

As my son would say, you get what you get and you don't get upset. Oh, that's right. Very good. It's a fun little expression. Yeah, so maybe when you land on Earth and the yellow sun radiation is going through your body, then what you attempt to do is what the powers you get. So maybe Zod got telekinesis because that's what he tried to do first. Who knows?

Yeah, right. Maybe there's a number of slots like an RPG and you get flight and super strength and invulnerability and bonus. Yeah, the bonus is I want to be the president. It's like, well, the sun will give you those abilities. You can be the president. My favourite Zod moment, and of course there's Neil before Zod. I love all of that.

It's terrific. There's a moment where he's on the television and he's doing his little speech or whatever, and the last thing he says before it's switched off is, he just screams, Zod! Like, was he going to say anything else? He's just yelling his name? I love it.

I like the bit where he's like, you'll kneel before me? He's in the Daily Planet. He's like, you'll kneel before me, Superman? Come back here. And then he just has to zip off after it. Exactly, yeah. Good fun. There's actually also a fourth uncast villain

called Jack L. Okay. Jackal. Do you get it? No. And he was an evil prankster and also the comic relief. So can you imagine?

Can't imagine. That would have been very funny, yeah. My favourite use of any of their powers, I think, is one where, I think it's the big burly henchman. Yeah. He decides to use his super breath ability to just knock over all the citizens of Metropolis,

just blast them with a hurricane strength. Do you remember when an action sequence was just a big wind machine for four and a half minutes? Yeah, but my favourite moment of that is there's just one guy who's like, man, I really picked the wrong day to A, wear roller skates, and B, wear this big sparkly red vest. I'm spiralling out of control here. So all of those gags, that's Richard Lester apparently.

He was like, I'm doing fun little gags. So, you know, he's not without talent. I appreciated it. Yeah, me too. What do you think about the action in this in general? There was a spectacular kick at one point. Did you see the Chris Reeve kick? Oh, yeah.

Where he kicks one of the Kryptonians? It's obviously dated, isn't it? I think people were kind of crying out for Superman to punch somebody because this was the last time we'd seen Superman on screen in a physical confrontation, like of equal match. Yeah, that's right. I'm talking in the movies. I know we've seen what Dean Cain's up to probably, haven't we?

Sure. He gets another mention for some reason, doesn't he? Sure. None of the other ones do. No. Wild. I don't know what's going on there, yeah. But, yeah, I think that scene, though, what it comes down to for me,

why it works is they discover his weakness and it's that he he like he likes people he doesn't want them to get crushed by big trucks and stuff you know what i mean i think i think that's really great and i think uh some other versions of superman maybe lack that uh humanity oh hello yeah we've talked about it but yeah i think it does a good job of you know i know he's like the people ah the people it's like you know it's good i like it yeah anyway uh weird powers let's talk about weird powers go on let's let's talk about it uh side note uh speaking of powers generally uh superman does seem to have very selective super senses in these movies i didn't mention it prior to this but in the first one he doesn't notice that uh lois's helicopter has crashed on the top of the building he's in. In this one, he goes all sotto voce to Lex Luthor and he's like,

hey, Lex, we should get him in this chamber. Get him in the chamber. What do you think? And then we'll move their powers. And it's like, do you not? They can probably hear you too, right? Like, what are you? Maybe he was banking on that.

I guess, maybe. Or maybe they didn't develop their super hearing. Maybe. they use that last slot to be the president maybe he's the president to kill a snake yeah yeah you know so that that's what you get let's talk about wacky powers okay so a lot of that stuff i also put down to it being the fortress of solitude right there's a moment where he replicates himself it's like yeah he's probably got holographic technology or whatever or he took it from lex luther who invented it maybe i don't know that's right but then the same time as he's disappearing and reappearing, so are the other Kryptonians.

So I don't know. I don't know what that is. I know people have a problem. Maybe it's a gas leak. Maybe it's a gas leak. Maybe they're all just standing in a cupboard with a gas leak. I know people don't really love the cellophane S thing. I love it.

I love it. It's so weird and random and unexplained yeah there's probably a family guy gag about it i think from memory i think there i think it's fun yeah i also think there's a moment where he grabs zod and it's like he's gonna he's gonna break his neck like he did like he does in the other movie and he probably would have done it if they hadn't have grabbed uh speaking of breaking necks and this is a a slight diversion but right at the start of the movie there's a moment where uh zod's big henchman breaks uh just a just a dude's neck yeah it's the cheapest effect i've ever seen just this the helmet turn yeah but it's just there's just it it looked like a oh when they're standing in front

of that weird green screen blue screen yeah reshoot maybe i don't know yeah because i think they would have done that with reprojection as they did for a lot of the stuff that looks good. You know what I mean? I'd imagine. I don't know that for a fact. But I think, though, my favourite moment in this movie, and it's always stuck with me,

is where he does go into the chamber and he flips it so they lose their powers and he keeps his. And when he does the kneel and he breaks his hand, you see the look on his face and he realises that he's done. And the music like swells and he picks him up. And yeah, he kills him. Though apparently in some versions that aired on TV, they get arrested.

They all get arrested at the end, yeah. Or you could also say like... It's probably in the Donica. Yeah. There's probably, yeah. Probably, yeah. Just the Arctic police show up. Exactly.

And they put him in the Arctic paddy wagon. That's right. But also maybe he threw them down into a Kryptonian prison or whatever. We don't really know. But I just think that's an incredible moment. Because it shows that Superman is not just brute strength and powers. He's using his middle. He's thinking.

And sometimes he thinks about a memory wiping kiss. And he outsmarted Lex Luthor, one of the dumbest men in the world. But, yeah, he did. Sometimes he does a memory-wiping kiss. Super weird. And, again, that's not the way a modern superhero movie would go. Again, we've got two hats on with this. One is always looking at this in terms of, like, it's just a fun throwback to, you know,

1940s Superman newspaper comic strips and one just cynical, just two awful people in a room being like, why isn't this more modern? Yeah, why isn't it? Why isn't this thing from the 80s more modern? It's just weird that he wasn't like, I mean, you know, she held her own. She threw one of these Kryptonians to her death.

Why not let her in on the secret and just let her be, I mean, it's going to happen eventually. Yeah, exactly. They were married in the comics at this point. Why not let her in on the secret and just let her be... I mean, it's going to happen eventually. Yeah, exactly. They were married in the comics at this point. Well, this is something that doesn't happen in the Donner Cut. I may as well ask this question now. Look, we're definitely going to come back and do Superman 3 next week.

Yes. But would people like us to cover the Donner Cut at the end of this? So we'll do 3 and 4 and then circle back to this movie. Maybe. I'd like to check it out. Yeah, same. Yeah, cool. Anyway, with the memory wiping kiss, that is a power that he's had in the comics prior to this.

But also, he's had every power. He can shoot a little Superman out of his hand. That's a power. So he can just do anything in the comics. So I think if you just go, well, that's a thing that he had, it's not good enough. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just to put something in like that.

And also, can he specify what memories he erases and how long the erasure goes depending on how he does the kiss yeah absolutely yeah also you may have noticed but gene hackman didn't return for any reshoots also i think he's really fun in this and there's a great recurring gag where they keep going to kill him and then he's out he has like this mock outrage and then he has to offer them the next thing oh yeah yeah and i think that's a really fun kind of like just like he's got this like indignation of like how dare you yeah i think this is the one where he really settled into the character and he's like i'm just gonna have fun with this which i very much appreciate but a lot of the stuff that they reshot where he's in he's it's just a stand-in in the background because

he didn't come back he was like yeah i think i'm doing another movie, he said. I think I'm doing another movie. That's what he said on the phone call. I've got some things I just want to mention at the end, some miscellaneous facts and just things that I went, oh, yeah. Here we go. That's what the title of this segment is called, so obviously that's what we'll be doing here. Exactly.

So shout out to John Ratzenberger from Cheers who appears in this movie. Is he one of the bar patrons? No, he's, can't remember, but he's in it. I think he's one of the NASA dudes, maybe. I don't know, but he's in it. Oh, he is, no, he is, yeah. He's also in Empire Strikes Back, which probably filmed around the same time as the reshoots of this did.

Ah, so he's probably in the movie. So I'd imagine, yeah, that's how that worked. And shout out to Harry Potter's mean uncle, who's also in this as well, yeah. I like the line where when he saves the kid on the waterfall or that dummy

that you see tumbled down at one point and you just hear somebody yell of course he's Jewish which of course is a callback to his origins because his creators were Jewish. I think that's fun.

It's got the classic moment. Although traditionally in the comic books he is Methodist. Is he? Oh my goodness. I hope we're not going to start some kind of religious war. Holy war? No, we are. Okay, good. Let's start one in the comic books, he is Methodist. Is he? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Hope we're not going to start some kind of religious war.

Holy war. No, we are. Okay, good. Let's start one in the comments. So it's also got a classic moment of a guy who's like, what have I been drinking when he sees a walk on water? I know you love a gag like that. And shout out also to Clifton James, who plays the sheriff,

but also plays the- Sheriff J.W. Pepper in the James Bond movies. Yes, the Roger Moore era. Maybe. Maybe. I mean, the last one was supposed to have Kojak at one point, so... Why not? Why not, I guess.

Yeah, I was kind of... Look, it's fun. And it's, you know, it's got some great moments and great performances, but it's not as good as i remember it being unfortunately yeah what about you uh it's definitely longer than i remember it being i think in the past maybe as a kid i probably watched the scene you know in the small town with the yeah they're battling the police and the army and then the scene at the end where uh they're fighting in the fortress of solitude and i and I probably left the room in between.

Anyways, we'll be back next week for Superman 3, which is Richard Lester's own. You cannot get away from that. Wall-to-wall gags. I think I've seen this once. So this will be something. It's rough from memory and also has one of the most horrifying moments from a lot of people's childhood.

The robot. The robot, yeah, which we'll come back to. But look, if you want to see that video early or any of the Caravan of Garbage's early, if you go to bigsandwich.co and sign up, they go up there early, don't they? That's right, along with the bonus podcast and movie commentaries. Oh my goodness. We're talking about Superman, we're talking

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Superman 3. Superman 3. And then Superman 4, The Quest for Peace. Yeah. I always thought that guy was Dolph Lundgren. It's not. It's a different guy. I always thought it was too as a kid.

It's a different guy. It's a different man. Yeah. He probably lived a different life. Right. And John Cryer's in it. John Cryer's in it. He later become Lex Luthor in the

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