The Weekly Planet - The Failed Wonder Woman Pilot - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: December 24, 2020

Wonder Woman 1984 hits at a time when the character has never been more popular or mainstream. But go back a decade and the character of Diana Prince was being lined up for her own series with everything you love about the character! Or at the very least some of the things you love about the character and some other weird inclusions. Bad show though. You'll see. Thanks for listening!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/QQBcjedNpbkJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4#WonderWoman #WonderWoman1984 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Well, that's entirely correct. Now, because Wonder Woman 1984 is coming out, we considered doing Wonder Woman 2017 because, you know, we did the Snyder trilogy with Joss Whedon. We did it. Don't even worry about it. But I feel like with Wonder Woman 2017, it's pretty good. I like a lot of the action scenes.

The cast is great. It's pretty fun. I like it. But I don't have any really interesting takes on it. What are we going to do? Talk for 10 minutes about the scene where Chris Pine's in the bath? Maybe. Maybe we will.

Maybe we will, but not this week. No. This week we decided to go not to 2017, not to the deep, deep dark past of 1984, but the even deeper, darker past of the year 2011. But we have done a commentary for Wonder Woman 2017 on BigSandwich.co. If you do want to check it out, all of our thoughts are there if you do want to hear it. All of our bad thoughts. All of our bad thoughts. All of our bad thoughts.

People often ask, what does the name Caravan of Garbage mean at this point? And nothing really. But for me, I think it comes down to, do I have anything to say about this? Right, yeah. And we certainly do have something to say about David E. Kelly's 2011 pilot. The creator of Ally McBeal. That's right. And other stuff.

Yep. He invented the unisex TV bathroom. In Ally McBeal, remember? right. And better things. Yep. He invented the unisex TV bathroom in Ally McBeal, remember? Oh, my God. Yeah. PC gone mad. It absolutely was. People were probably upset about it or fine with it. I can't remember.

Yeah. They looked up momentarily from their dancing baby screensavers and they're like, what is this? Isn't it crazy that there was no Wonder Woman movie until 2017? Like, cinematically. Yeah, yeah. Part of the Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son, and Wonder Woman. Ten goes at Batman, but no goes at Wonder Woman, yeah.

And it's not like she wasn't in popular culture. The comics were running. There's been multiple animated series and movies. Lunchboxes. Lunchboxes. The Linda Carter series. All of these things. So it's kind of bizarre to me that they decided to make

like a completely Wonder Woman focused, not like a Wonder Woman Origins, like Smallville-esque thing. They had a full-on crack at Wonder Woman. Yeah. And it's not very good. By the way, this is unaired. You can get it. This is definitely going to be flagged by Warner Brothers.

And in its defense, it's literally not finished. Yeah. Like, there's CGI skylines that don't have any textures on them. Yep. There's a fight sequence where you can still see the wires. Everyone's got a cable. I imagine if this went to series, they would have made some changes. Probably everything they would have changed.

Yeah, probably everything. So this one is, this Wonder Woman is played by Adrienne Palicki. Yes. Who, nowadays you would know her, she had a great run on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. as Bobby Moore's Mockingbird. Yep. You would know her as one of the main cast members of The Orville. Yes.

Seth MacFarlane's Star Trek thing. Yeah. But prior to those things, she had a lot of pilots that didn't get picked up, it seems. She has done the trilogy of failed comic book pilots. I don't think it's her fault. I like her. I think it's her fault i like her i think she's good but she did aquaman yeah she's a she's a beachside bartender or a surf shop owner or something and a monster was she also yeah she also did wonder woman obviously

and there was a marvel's most wanted pilot which was a spin-off of agents of shield which has never been released i'd be very interested to see what that is like. It's probably better than Inhumans. Oh, almost certainly, yeah. Yeah, there we go. I want you to explain something to me, Mason. Go on. First of all, this is very much made in the transition

between bad television and good television. Do you know what I mean? Sure, right, yeah. And I know there was good television at the time. Yeah, yeah. But we've really gone into that golden era, and this just feels like it was made in a million years ago it's got what i call a some star cast well there's one in

particular where which we'll talk about where it's like what the fuck he's in this right we'll get to it yeah yeah but explain to me the identities of diana prince okay well here's the thing what's the choice that they've made here well what's interesting and what is kind of inconsistent about i'll leave a like oh yeah interesting and what is kind of inconsistent about... I'll leave a like. Oh, yeah. What is interesting and kind of inconsistent about Wonder Woman's character in the comic books and other media is that sometimes she's got a secret identity,

sometimes she doesn't. And in this, they've decided to take this to a whole other level in that she seems to have three identities except i thought about it it's not that weird in principle because batman in a way has three identities right okay sure the superhero batman he is like the public persona of bruce wayne who's like a lazy playboy who falls asleep in board meetings yeah and he's real bruce wayne big crybaby, obviously. And so I'm like, this is kind of just another step on the way of this. But, but, but, but, but, but. But in practice, all right, in practice, the three identities she has,

the first two actually aren't that weird, right? She's Wonder Woman, the superhero. People on the streets know her. They're like, hey, Wonder Woman, lasso me with your lasso of truth. Why come your lasso isn't... Beat me up. Your lasso's got weird unfinished textures on it. I know, it's unfinished yet.

Yeah, but maybe if you've got to put this to air, maybe you should fix it. We'll fix it in post. Shut up, we know. Right, so there's Wonder Woman the superhero. Yep. There's her... There's Diana Themyscira.

Yes. Who is the powerful CEO of Themyscira Industries, which is a company that does two things. It builds powerful crime-fighting technology, which it pays for by selling Wonder Woman action figures. But then I think what happened is... With big boobs. Oh, my goodness.

There's a whole big scene about that, isn't there? Yeah, there sure is. It shows she's grim and gritty, I guess. I guess. And then I think what happened is the showrunners went, well, she's a very powerful woman in both of these identities, and maybe... Who can relate to that?

Well, exactly. Who wants to see that? It's a bit off-putting, isn't it? Because what we want, we want her to be attainable to male viewers, and we want her to be relatable to female viewers. Our female viewers, we're assuming, are all women sitting on the couch eating chips. Watching Ally McBeal.

With a cat. And so they're like, let's make her identity a woman sitting on the couch eating chips with a cat. Also contemplating whether or not she's going to make her Facebook profile. Oh my God, 2011. Which is a big part of this. For some reason, there's a moment where she does go to make her Facebook profile. And it's like friends. And you're supposed to list your friends, which is maybe like a thing that Facebook had

I can't remember but she like pauses and she's like oh and she only writes her cat down and then she has this realisation like maybe I don't

have any friends but you've got so many friends you've got friends at work I don't know they're all underlings as far as I'm concerned

oh okay fair enough but I was going to say they should have given her a sister perfect yeah Supergirl is a sister Supergirl is not a sister

that's what I'm saying but like the idea that they went well she's a bit too powerful let's give her like a oh my god she's just relatable and gawky and sitting on the couch the it'd be like if batman's was an incel i was gonna say batman's third identity was it's to make him relatable to male viewers was that he just lived in the basement under his parents house yeah and sat in a big gaming chair and looked at too many monitors all the time in the dark oh wait a minute that's the bloody bat cave isn't it james got him i got him yeah but he'd be wearing a release of snyder cat t-shirt so that's fun anyway here's the thing about this wonder woman i find her

fundamentally unlikable yeah i don't i don't think's her fault. I think it's written very weirdly. And there's some things that are shoehorned into this where I'm like, oh, if you're going to do that, maybe do it properly. Because one of the major plot points of this is Liz Hurley, the evil character from this, is selling drugs. To be fair, she has a character name. She's not just evil Liz Hurley.

I don't know. They're not like, Liz Hurley's destroying the city. Ah! Smash. I was in Bedazzled. I was in some of the Austin Hurley. I don't know. They're not like, Liz Hurley's destroying the city. Ah! Smash. I was in Bedazzled. I was in some of the Austin Powers movies. One and two? One and the start of two.

So she's selling drugs and some steroids, but inner city youths are getting hold of it and they show up pictures and it's like four black teens. They sort of weakly touch on this racial issue, sort of of or it's a coincidence that they all happen to be that it's a strange addition here's the thing about the wonder woman here it's it's not it's not all

there in terms of like the things that she has so for example she's got a visible plane that's true they refer to it as such in the pilot oh Oh, my God, it's Wonder Woman in a visible plane. That's it. There's the lasso of being a normal lasso. Yeah, which it's referred, the press refer to it as a lasso of truth. Yeah. But she only really uses it to trip people up. At one point, she needs to get information out of somebody, and she doesn't lasso with a lasso of truth. She chokes them out.

Use the lasso of truth. Maybe it's like a toy marketing thing. Maybe it doesn't really do that. Oh, right. Yeah, okay. And they probably also have an invisible plane where they sell an empty box. Maybe you lasso somebody with it, and that person just tells you uncomfortable truths. Like, those pants aren't very flattering on you, if I'm honest. No, no, no, this isn't your best look.

What, are you objectifying yourself? Come on. But one thing they do do, and you mention it, do do, ha ha, is the costume doesn't look good, it was heavily criticised at the time. And I've got some stuff about this at the end. So at the end she just changes into the little Wonder Woman star underwear situation. But there's no, I don't know why. Like why then?

Is that better for fighting? That's always the excuse. But it never is. No. Anyway. Also she does quite a bit of murder. I don't know if you have a note on that at all. Yeah, she's killing people down the corridor.

She literally breaks into evil Liz Hurley's headquarters slash drug den situation. Yeah. And just pulverizes a bunch of dudes. And again, as Liz Hurley literally points out in this, she doesn't have a warrant. Nope. She doesn't. Wonder Woman publicly goes, she calls a press conference, and she's like, listen, people of Earth,

I don't have any evidence against this woman, but I'm pretty sure she's evil. What is this, the Rudy Giuliani story? God damn, I've gone political! Oh, yes! I'm sorry to do it, but you set me up, and I'm bloody knocking him down, mate! You better believe it.

I don't know if that's slander or libel because i can't remember which one is written which one is verbal but um i think she could do it because at the end of the day she's just like i'll beat you up i'll kill you right and then again what she does she just breaks into this this place and she just starts beating people up at one point she throws a lead pipe through a guy's neck yeah and the look in the guy's eyes is definitely i'll never see my kids again because of this lead pipe in my neck what i love about those guys because they're all juiced up like super soldiers yeah yeah first of all the lead guy looks like human growth hormone johnny drama which i really appreciate that but there's a moment where before she comes in they're like

don't worry if she gets through security we'll be. And then a roller door comes up and she's standing there. Behind her is the visible jet and there's nobody, like, there's no body scattered. So was your security a roller door? Maybe they were going to add people in post going, oh, she killed me. She killed me. I've been killed so bad here. And I was the toughest guy.

I love that all those guys are varying sizes and levels of fitness. There's a giant guy. There's a couple of giant guys and there's just regular-ish looking dudes. Yeah, I think maybe some of them were stuntmen and some of them were just teamsters who were on set at the time. Speaking of, though, that scene, it's pretty good. There's some decent stunts in this. But that scene, like set in a warehouse with shipping containers,

I've seen that on every stunt person's, like, showreel. Do you know what I mean? Every one of them has something like that. There's nothing in there that really makes it particularly spectacular or even Wonder Woman-esque. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

At one point she does blocks and bullets with her bracelets, but that's earlier on, but yeah, you're right. The fight is after, I don't know, but it happens in the, in the,

I was gonna say movie. This is not a movie just to clarify. But speaking of movies, fucking Pedro Pascal is in this. He really, yeah, he is. I,

I think I'm, I must have known this. Greedy Pedro Pascal taking his second bite at the apple of the Wonder Woman franchise. Come on, man. Leave some for the rest of us. Unbelievable. So what's amazing about that is as well, he has way more chemistry with Wonder Woman than Steve Trevor does.

Yeah. Who, by the way, I think is the same guy from that Knight Rider reboot. It is. It's Mike Tracer. That thoroughly unlikable. No, no. He was the coolest guy in the world in that as he kept telling everybody yeah he was at college but he was also an ex-marine

or something yeah and he had no flaws and that's why that show did well and everyone liked it that's right they should have made him a plank of wood oh just a living plank i mean they did i mean you should have had a cat or something like Oh, a cat would have done it, yeah. Or like a personality where he wore glasses and ate ice cream. Yeah. You know? Just like regular dudes. Yeah. So Cary Albus is in this.

And I was shocked beyond belief that at the end it wasn't revealed that he was also a bad guy. Right? I think that would have been a plot point if this had continued. He's got villainous hair. He's got a dramatic three-piece suit. He's all like, we need bigger boobs on the Wonder Woman. And she's like, I don't have bigger boobs than Wonder Woman toys or whatever. And they're like, well, I don't know.

The bigger boobs ones sell. Anyway, he's not. He's just a guy that works for her or with her. I don't know. But yeah, he definitely would have turned out to be like working with Liz Hurley or something. Yeah, he's probably whatever Pedro Pascal is going to be revealed to be in Wonder Woman 84. Donald Trump got it, Mason!

I've got it, I've done it again! How does he do it? He's getting those dislikes. People are leaving by the droves, Mason. Doesn't matter. Dislikes still count as engagement. Woo! People are still going to see it.

And even if you've left, you've watched it this far, which means that certainly helps the algorithm regardless. Anyway, sorry to get political. Here's trivia. I'm ready. As we call it algorithm regardless. Anyway, sorry to get political. Here's trivia. I'm ready. As we call it every week. We call it Wondrous Trivia. Wondrous Trivia. And there's a big The More You Know, but it says Wondrous Trivia. Oh yeah, because that's the NBC, the Peacock,

David E. Kelly, Ally McBeal. Ben's put that in. Nice. And he loves it. He loved doing it. Was Ryan Gosling in this for a second? Is he on the TV? Yeah, he's in The Notebook. Because she's relatable. Was Ryan Gosling in this for a second? Is he on the TV? Yeah, he's in the notebook. Because she's relatable. She's watching the notebook like a woman would, like a chick would, Mason. Nice, nice.

Beginning to think you don't understand Wonder Woman's third identity at all, Mason. You're probably right. Anyway, here we go. Wondrous trivia. The first time I saw that, because I've watched this before, I remembered her as wearing pyjamas on the couch and being under a blankie. But she's not. She's just in her regular clothes, her outdoor clothes,

which, if anything, is weirder, right? It's got that vibe, though, doesn't it? At least take your shoes off. Yeah. God damn, you're in your house. Is she actually from Themyscira? It's kind of hinted towards, but... It's a bit vague, isn't it?

I don't really know. Yeah, no. It's weird that this isn't an origin story. There's no flashbacks. There's no nothing. Anyway, wondrous trivia. We needed that Smallville-esque 10-season build-up to this episode.

You know what I mean? To get on the backstory. And she finally puts on the ill-fitting leotard. She's like, oh, this isn't Flash. Why am I doing this? I don't want to. I'll put some pants on.

Look, if I come back for the crossover from the Flash universe, I'm not putting these back on. Anyway, here's trivia. BG Britt is in this. He also is in Agents of Shields. There you go. Some more bloody crossover, mate.

The costume. Here we go. I've got some costume stuff. This is costume all the way down now for trivia. I should have just called this costume trivia, but there was the BG Britt in, so I couldn't really call it that. It's wondrous trivia.

BG Britt's mentioned. The costume apparently plays up the Greek origins instead of the patriotism. All right. I mean, I guess the new one sort of does that. There's more shades of Greek mythology than there is the star-spangled banner. Yes. Look at it.

And on her belt, there are many souvlakis. Yum, yum, yum. Yiros. Yiros, that's right. Battle souvlakis. Throwing them out. Throwing them out. Throwing them out. Throwing them out.

Getting that garlic sauce in someone's eye. That'll sting. It's got an onion in it usually. So, though, this lack of patriotism in the costume, it was criticised by the likes of Fox News at the time. I hate to bring it up. I don't like getting political, but this is just a fact. You know, that was it here.

It's in the facts. It's in the IMDb trivia probably. That's it. Others thought it was terrible and too porny. It was also changed for the final act, which may have been a late edition or a reshoot, I guess. Or the pants just ripped, maybe? I don't know.

Maybe they ripped and they're like, we only have the budget for one pair of pants. So I guess you're wearing that now. This is television. This isn't the movies, obviously. The costume also shows up in Smallville because Erica Durant is Lois Lane wears it in

2011 season there you go but here we go here's something positive Linda Carter thought she looked beautiful there you go Linda Carter doesn't have

a bad word to say about anybody I love Linda Carter she's the best and she's great in Sky High oh yeah it's a good movie this has been

Wonder Woman go on I can't this is the end I think oh wow yeah we do this every week I've been Wonder Woman. Go on. I can't. This is the end, I think. Oh, wow. Yeah. We do this every week, though, Caravan of Garbage.

And if you want to see episodes early, guess what you can? You can go over to BigSandwich.co, what we mentioned up top. It's not just movie commentaries. There's early videos. There's a bonus podcast. There's a regular podcast that we do, but it's an ad-free feed. That's right. What else is there?

Other things. Yeah, other things. These videos early. I said that, didn't I? Who knows what's going to spring up? Who does know? It's a mystery. Here's a hint towards next week, though. What should we do next week? This is for the extended. We'll put this in so people know. There's a Wonder Woman telemovie

from 1974. So we could call it Wonder Woman 1974. Is Linda Carter in it? No. Huh. But then also, I'm like, I also kind of want to do some Linda Carter Wonder Woman as well. Because we haven't looked at that yet. Yeah. I did a Christmas episode once. Yeah.

With our friends Sarah and Michael. Oh yeah, cool. Over at Sarah and Michael's at Christmas. It's good. I like it. I like it. Maybe we could do that. Maybe.

Maybe we should watch one and see if they're bad bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I remember being like, this is pretty. But what I could do. Yes, I could do Wonder Woman 1974 and then people could come in hot and be like, and the first few minutes of it would make it regular Wonder Woman 1974 and people were like, you've titled the video wrong. And I'd be like, I fucking got you.

I didn't title it wrong. I like how most of the content you make these days is based on some sort of weird form of spite of people you don't know. Yeah, me too. And you're going to make that logo, James. You're going to make that

74, like, you know, we're going to stress over every pixel, making it pixel perfect. Yeah, I could do that, but then if I do that, people will know that I've done it intentionally.

Oh, good point. So I'll just believe the thumbnail is like a Wonder Woman 1984 poster. Nice, perfect. Nice, okay, got them. You will get them. Anyway, maybe we'll do that.

We'll see. All right, cool. Sorry if you're in the extended audio. There's a little bit of a peek by the curtain. Now we're back in the regular video. Oh, nice. Wow, doesn't that look good? Unbelievable.

It's going to be our last one for the year. Huh. There you go. Christmas. Yeah, I mean, it won't be then, but yeah, absolutely. Anyways, thanks for watching this video. If you've got a suggestion for Caravan of Garbage, leave it below.

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Here she comes! She was wearing pants, but now she's not. Maybe her pants ripped, I don't know. Maybe they did. Maybe they did. And got stars on them. I found some stickers in the car. No, the plane. I found some stickers in the car. No, the plane.

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FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from Istanbul to Paris and London. One woman has a secret, the other a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.