The Weekly Planet - The Fast & The Furious - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: June 10, 2021

2001's The Fast & The Furious kicked off a franchise in a way that absolutely nobody saw coming. Shooting both Paul Walker and Vin Diesel into super stardom the super car racing/Point Break knock off is in many ways vastly different from what it has become. But there's still the bones of it in there, family, Corona, d*ck swinging, rappers turned actors. Anyways here's our Caravan Of Garbage review, thanks or the support!SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNVideo Edition ► https://youtu.be/zOfZgCmfpZsHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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we're going to be talking about the Fast and Furious movies. The first three. And the first one came out in the year of our Lord, 2001. Good Lord. This franchise is old enough to drive? Yes. No, it can drive. That's 20.

As of recording this, that's 20, Mason. So leave a like if you could. Because what's baffling to me about this Point Break remake, quite frankly, Mason, even though there was a Point Break remake, but people didn't like it because I don't think it was enough like this. That's exactly right. It wasn't silly enough. But of the car movies of that era, you're gone in 60 seconds, the Italian job talk, the transporter.

Cars. Cars. Driven. Remember the movie Driven? Nope. Don't worry about it. Sounds like a Clint Eastwood movie, is it? It's a Stallone movie. I was close. Cars. Cars. Driven. Remember the movie Driven? Nope. Don't worry about it. Sounds like a Clint Eastwood movie, is it? It's a Stallone movie.

I was close. Yeah, sure. It was an old man car movie, so I was right. Like, who knew that this would be the one that we're still doing, right? I guess so, yeah. Baffling to me. You know the first thought I had about this movie upon re-watching it? God, everyone's so thin.

They're so thin. It's a function of all these stars that are still around, but they were young and hungry at the time. My goodness, yeah. Because they hadn't eaten. They hadn't eaten. But also, like that era, everybody had to be so thin. Everyone was thin.

They had to have their low-slung jeans hanging off their hip bones, you know? Everyone's low-slinging it. Everyone's low-slinging it. So, yeah, the stars of this who are now, well, they're not all alive, but who were launched into superstardom. For one, Paul Walker, an undercover cop who likes a terrible tuna fish sandwich with the crust cut off. Like a baby.

James, I've got a note here. It says Brian O'Connor, a grown adult man who asked for the crust to be cut off his sandwiches. He's expecting to be integrated into a criminal gang. And he's like, you know what I'm going to do is I'm going to go to the bodega where his sister works, and I'm just going to be like, what, two to sandwich with no crust, please? I'm a tough guy.

Do you think it's one of those things where, like, because the game was big at the time and you wanted to make an impact when you're talking to a chick, so what's something that's going to set you apart? For example, I've got a friend who used to work at Subway dermot brereton used to come in the famous footballer this is too specific for this video boy isn't it this is going in the audio edition all right no it'll go in the video but he'd order you know his sub or whatever dermot brereton legend of the game dermot brereton okay and then he'd go playing for the hawks at the time was he uh probably he would have been just retired and he'd go and one hell of a Probably he would have been just retired. And he'd go, and one jalapeno.

All the time in his hands. That's right, exactly. Because he wanted that hot shot at the end, is what you say. No doubt. And he'd always go, and one jalapeno. And it's like, you don't even need that. Now, did he say that or did he say one jalapeno? Because I suspect more likely to be the latter.

But anyway, we're not talking about the subway preferences of football legend Dermot Brereton, recently retired at times that story being told. We're talking about the Fast and the Furious. Yes. So Paul Walker was like a teen heartthrob off the back of She's All That and the movie The Skulls. Oh, yeah.

If you remember the movie The Skulls. Secret Society of the Skulls, yeah. Exactly. And Vin Diesel had done Saving Private Ryan, that weird Street Sharks ad, and Pitch Black. So they both had done things that were in the zeitgeist. They were famous, but they weren't like, you know. Been in a bunch of Fast and Furious movies famous.

Or some. They hadn't even been in one. So, yeah. At that point in time. So they were like, better get started on this. Better get into it. Better get started on this fan favourite franchise. It's good casting, right?

I mean, they're both not great actors. That's not to throw shade. I mean, you just did. No, but what do you do in a movie like this? I should say they're not like... Shakespearean monologues. Yeah, and there's a bit of that. And there's a lot of like, my brother was a car and then he was eaten by a car.

You know, everyone's got a story about that. Again, you are thinking of the movie Cars. I might be. But I think, though, a lot of the earnestness in this works and we've kind of lost that in the later movies. Like the down-to-earth kind of, you know, because Dominic Toretto is a criminal because his father died in a fiery, fiery crash

and he witnessed that and then he beat a man until that man had permanent brain damage. And it's like, shit, I forgot this part of the story. I mean, the newer editions still have like where it's all about family and it's all about true friendship and that kind of thing. But you're right, then it's mixed with some, you know, it's mixed with bloody ludicrous going to space or whatever. Exactly. You're right. Then it's mixed with some, you know, it's mixed with bloody ludicrous going to space or whatever.

Exactly. You're right. This one is very down to earth and it's so quaint. Like the heist involves, they drive in front of a truck. They've got a little harpoon gun. They pull out the window of the truck. They make a way with the DVD players. That's right.

And that's adorable. God, isn't it just? They're not building a full-size matchbox track and putting a rocket on the back of a car. No. You know? There's really none of that. It's adorable. How much money do you think they could have made

with a full truckload of those Panasonic combo DVD, VCR, TV units? Millions. Yeah. Probably. Nowadays, I feel you still could, but what you'd have to do is you'd have to steal all of them, then you'd have to back the truck up against, like,

one of those, like, town hall electronics conventions with all the little booths and stuff. Yeah, yeah. And you'd have Vin Diesel be there and, you know, with all his wares and some guy would walk up to him and be like, does this have a SCART connection? He'd be like, I don't know. I just stole them.

My dad died in a car crash. I beat a man till he had brain damage. Guys, these don't have SCART connections. We could go. But no, I think that works. I even like the guy in the crew who hates Paul Walker, even though he's a creep, but, you know, he's right. He's like, this guy's a cop.

He is. I've got a note here. I really love Jesse, the saddest boy in street racing, who I'm assuming will still be alive at the end of this movie. Yeah, he's in all of the sequels, isn't he? Yeah, he sure is. I remember that guy being absolutely... I think he should come back as part of a revenge mission.

You can. Yeah. You absolutely can. I mean, he was only machine gunned in the street. Yeah, but I remember him being like Robocop machine gunned. And it's not really that, is it? He only gets hit maybe once. Everybody comes back in the street. Yeah, but I remember him being like Robocop machine gunned. And it's not really that, is it? He only gets hit maybe once. Everybody comes back in these movies.

All I'm saying is I'd forgotten this guy existed and it's high time to bring him back. Hashtag justice for Jesse. I agree. Let's do it. If he's alive. Which I hope he is, God bless. I think he is.

Good. He should be. What do you think of the hottest cars of 2001? I've written here, i've got a note it says the absolute matchbox cars that were considered cool in 2001 yeah and then underneath i've written the absolute everything that was considered cool in 2001 just a big chunky sneaker and a snakeskin pant low riders yeah jeans with the bikini top oh yeah that's yeah hell yeah it's coming back it's all coming back it's all coming back. It's all coming back, yeah. It's going to be the early 2000s fashion.

But look, it's all like neon and spoilers and like stickers down the side of your car. To me, all these cars look really dumb. And to me, I also think that car culture is just engine nerds, just people like little pistons and manifolds. Like it's not cooler than anything else. I'm not saying I'm better than this. What I'm saying is everybody's a nerd about youtube metrics oh now that's cool that sounds cool but do you know what i mean though it's

just people going look my car's got a microchip great it's really cool man yeah but i mean you know um when you're you know um checking uh say the the monetization of one of your youtube videos yes uh you're not gonna like drive off the side of a road and explode are you i mean i could yeah maybe maybe if you're doing it while you're driving i guess and i wouldn't put it past you in a honda civic what are your thoughts though on the racing in this um i think what is most notable about the racing in this is that a lot of races seem to be determined by whether your car has NOS in it or not. All the strategic use of NOS.

Yes. I could win one of these races. I could win all of these races if I had three NOS buttons. But most people only have two. But I mean, yeah, in a lot of instances, it's a lot of like, hey, I think I could beat you. And then you drive along and then they're like, not if I do the NOS. Not if I gear shift and do the NOS. Yeah, that is quite funny to me.

And then it gets to one of the later movies and it's Dom Toretto spitting NOS into an engine maybe? Yeah, that's right. Is that what's happening in that movie? But you know what? At least in this one, which we cannot say about some of the sequels, at least for the most part it is real cars doing real stuff. Yeah, there is a bit of Speed Racer kind of blurry lines going on. When we see the actors in the cars, a lot of the outside background is clearly CGI'd in. But they also had like car rigs where, you know,

you put the car on a trailer and you do it like that to make it look real for the most part. Well, I guess what I'm saying is at least they weren't just clambering on big green boxes and then everything else is filled in later. At least there were dummy car bodies that they were standing on sometimes. That's exactly right. But there's a few stunts in particular that are genuinely really great. That last truck heist, it's really impressive.

And look, that's not Paul Walker. You can see that because it's a different looking man and you see him multiple times and it looks like a guy much older than Paul Walker.er but the jumps between vehicles the speed that they're going it's really good like genuinely good and genuinely tense whereas in a lot of the later movies they'll just like jump off a car and just roll in the asphalt and it's fine but for this it's like this seems very dangerous exactly these guys are guys are more street-level kind of dirty guys, and you feel like if that terrible guy falls off a truck, he's going to die.

Yeah. And nobody's going to cry about it, but, you know, he's still going to die. Or he dies in a later movie, which I looked up. I'm like, is this guy dead? Does he die in a later movie? He does. He dies in one of the later movies, five or six, or seven or eight or nine. Wow, nice.

Or he'll be back. Or he's dead in real life. He falls off the side of a car and to his death, and he's like he'll be back or he's dead in real life he falls off the side of a car and took to his death and he's like i apologize for some of the problematic language i used in the first movie it was the early 2000s i was drinking the nos all right i was drinking the nos at the end they have a they have a speed race where they're like we're gonna beat this train and vin diesel's finally driving his dad's car but he's like i'm too afraid to drive this car because my dad was killed by a car. Not this car. I think it was a different car, but I'm still afraid of this car.

And the flip that it does over a train, over Paul Walker's car, it's genuinely great. Like really, really good. And maybe he wouldn't have hit the train if he didn't have a giant fucking engine poking out of the hood of the car. I would have put it on. Maybe, James, he wouldn't have hit the train if he hadn't been involved in the illegal street racing. That's part of it, too. Yeah.

Now, whenever I look at any of these movies, any scene in any of these movies, I'm like, who could we bring back? And I'm like, who was driving that train? John Cena? Was it John Cena? Could have been John Cena. Maybe it was John Cena driving the train. That'd be incredible.

Yeah, right? Because he knew it would come to this. That's right. He's like, I'll wait 20 years. I'll come get him. Come get him in 2021. But yeah, like the idea of, you know, like a big engine sticking out the front of your car,

put it on the roof. That's what I'd do. Sure. Just put that right on the roof, mate. James, you don't know anything about being cool in the year 2001. Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of those car nerds, are you? Is that you, are you?

Yeah. Have I outed you as a car nerd? Rule number one, James, you don't put your big engine on the roof. Everyone knows that. Yeah, okay. That's fair enough. There's a few moments in this. There were plenty of moments in this.

With actors, because I love it when I'm watching a movie and I'm like, I recognise that actor. Diamond Face. Diamond Face. From the movie Die Another Day, yeah. Exactly. The most 2001 guy you could possibly imagine. Bring him back. Bring back Diamond Face.

What happened to him? Did he get machine gunned? He got machine gunned to death. Fell off a bike. I can't remember. Paul Walker shot him a bunch of times. Oh, no. But again.

Was it Vin Diesel who shot him? No, it was Paul Walker, definitely. Oh, no. But again, like you said, it's not like he was chopped into 100,000 pieces by a jet engine. But even then. Even then, bring him back. Justice for Diamond Face. I did tune bring him back look that last for diamond

face i did tune out a bit in that last uh motorbike chase but there is a moment also where two of the bikes jump over the hill and you see they're just going off ramps you can see the as women our life stages come with unique risk factors, like when our estrogen levels drop during menopause, causing the risk of heart disease to go up. Know your risks. Visit heartandstroke.ca. FX's The Veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies

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That's true, yeah. So there you go. I'm like, actors I know in movies. Bless my stars, I said. I've never seen such a thing. But I mean, also, obviously, you recognize rapper Ja Rule. He's in this movie. I've got a Ja Rule story about this.

What? Do you want to hear it? Yes. Okay, so he was at my friend's subway. Jay. And he started on up. No, no, no, no, no. And he said, and he let Dermot Brereton go first.

Wow, that's nice. Because he has respect for the legend of the game that is Dermot Brereton. And he's a beautiful, beautiful mullet. Okay, so Joel Singleton spoke about him on the Grantland podcast. Joel Singleton directed the sequel. I was going to say prequel. Some of these are prequels. I'm pretty sure this one isn't, but it might be. So apparently Ja Rule got too big for himself.

He turned it down, as in part two two he turned down half a million dollars he got 15 grand to be in the first movie he was really big at the time i guess murder inc was throwing out hits and were making money hand over foot it was acting like it was too big to be in the sequel he wouldn't return calls i went to the studio to go and see him that's just my mantra i say mantra what do you say not that i deal with a lot of music people he was kind of playing me to the side and i was like what what is this shit this was all initiated by me i then made the call i called ludicrous whoa so that's why ludicrous is a star of this franchise ludicrousacris, Bridges, Legend of the Screen. You could bring back Ja Rule, though, between five festivals. I was going to say, yeah. He might have a bit of time on his hands.

But imagine looking back and turning this down. I think Timothy Olsen was up for the role of Don Toretto as well. Really? Which I think would have been great because he's amazing. But Timothy Olsen is also probably too jovial in real life. Where Vin Diesel just seems to be doing Dom Toretto all the time, which I really enjoy. He's just fully involved in family and Corona and Instagram stories that go forever.

All these Dungeons and Dragons characters are called Dom Toretto. That's right. Exactly. What's still here, though, from this franchise? What do you recognise? Race Wars. Oh, sure. Yep.

Love a good Race War. Let me tell you. Why did they call it that? Over here at Mr. Sunday Movies, Inc., we love a good Race War, let me tell you. No, Mason. No, we do. It's like Hector, who, you know, he's in charge of stuff. He comes back, doesn't he, for another Race Wars.

That's true. Limp Bizkit's Roland is out the door. Absolutely. I mean, if you're Jones and for your fix of that Limp Bizkit mix, you're not going to see it past the first couple of these. Yeah. So Corona's been maintained, unless it's not the particular brand for that movie. Then it might be a Bud Light or whatever's going on.

It's not really about racing anymore. They might just throw in a race just for kind of old time's sake or whatever. Yeah, it's more about the super spy action these days. And is that because I think Vin Diesel had two franchises. He had this and he had Triple X, which was a super spy movie franchise. And the Chronicles of Riddick. Exactly right. And I think maybe this one, you know, picked up

and so he didn't need Triple X anymore. Yeah. He didn't come back for Triple X too, did he? No, that was an ice cube. Yeah, and then he ended up coming back for three, which is a fascinatingly terrible movie if you've ever seen it. Also, it might be the fourth one.

I don't, who's to say? I think it's the third one. It's the third one. Okay, great. It might be a prequel. But yeah, so it's kind of interesting to see the DNA of this and what it ends up becoming. The family stays, obviously, but you know, the family kind of come and go in these movies, depending who's killed and brought back to life and whatever. But you know what, all in all, and brought back to life and whatever. But you know what?

All in all, it's pretty... I mean, I don't like it. It's fine. Sure, okay, right. No, it's interesting, I would say, more than like... It's definitely a time capture, isn't it? Yeah, I didn't love it at the time, and I certainly... I've never been a Cars guy,

because of all the Car nerds out there. Because nobody will let you put an engine on a roof. Sure, I get it. But no, I don't not like it. It's just more of kind of a fascinating glimpse into the past of this franchise, which is bigger than ever. Did this movie predate Pimp My Ride or was Pimp My Ride inspired by this? That's a great question.

Let's check it out. The reason I ask is because in this movie, Dom Toretto does have a huge sound system in his car that he operates using a remote control. That's a good point. Despite the fact that it's like six inches from his hand. He's like, tweet, tweet. Better put some Limp Bizkit on. Tweet, tweet.

Check it out. Check it out. Check it out. Pimp My Ride, 73 episodes, hosted by Xzibit, of course, premiered in March of 2004. Whoa. So precursor. That's right.

Absolutely. I'd put the engine on the roof of my ride. I'd be like, if you're going to pimp anyone's ride, can you please? He's like Mr. Sunday Movies, I know you like engines on your roof. So we put an engine on your roof. I don't understand why you like that, but that's what we do on this show.

We took your Hyundai Lantra, your first car and we rescued it from that Geelong wreckage that you left it in when it broke down in Geelong and we put the engine on the roof. Wow. Yeah. Got a bit of trivia here, Mason. Go on.

Let's call it Speedy's Trivia. Too fast, too trivia. Think of a funnier thing. Dom Tourette Trivia. Perfect. Thank you. Okay, so. We cut that out in the edit, but I was here for two hours thinking of that.

So here's some alternate names for the movie that they were going for. Racer X, which is. It's a Speed Racer character. Now this is, but this is, there was already a movie called The Fast and the Furious, right? Well, that's what I was going to get to. So the Redline, Street Wars, Race Wars. Nice. Probably best they didn't go with that last one.

No, people love a good Race Wars. Race Wars 9. Dom Toretto's back and he's got to fight his brother. You're right. Because the next one would be called Two Race, Two Wars. Race War, Tokyo Drift. Yeah. Very specific.

Race War there. That is very specific. Race and War. Race and War 5. Race and War 6. End War 5. Race End War 6. That's good. So the name, The Fast and the Furious, was purchased in relation to the 1954 movie of the same name.

They don't really have anything in common. It's just a pretty cool name. And Vin Diesel's in it. And Vin Diesel's in it also. As Dom Toretto. That's right. Exactly. It's not a prequel, actually.

It's a sequel to the upcoming one as well. That's right. I actually didn't know that. But it's also, I think it's set during Tokyo Drift as well, I believe. Yeah, that's right. Is that right? Yeah, Dom Toretto falls into a time portal and ends up in the 50s. And people are like, what is this?

What is happening? What are you playing on your stereo? What? This is, oh my God. This is weirder than those giant radioactive ants we saw the other day. Some of the original casting choices of this movie were, and this is insane, Mario Lopez as Dominic, Mark Paul Gosler as Brian, and Dustin Diamond as Jesse. Do those names sound familiar to you, Mason?

Those are the three, I would say, principal cast members of Saved by the Bell. Correct. Wow. This was nixed because audiences would be confused. Yes, that would be very confusing. Sure. That is insane. I mean, can you imagine any of them coming out of a time portal in the 1950s?

Madness. Yes. Yeah, no, yeah. I can picture it. But I don't like it. No. But I like it. Nice.

Dominic's RX-7 originally had a roll cage, Dom Toretto, of course. It was removed to accommodate Vin Diesel's physique. Whoa. Someone's editing their own IMBD trivia here. I mean, he's big, but he's not like John Cena size. Unless he is. We'll have to see, won't we? In all of Dom Toretonto's cars they actually had

to raise the steering wheel to accommodate vin diesel's big dick that's just facts that's just trivia that's right actually they took the engine out and they put it above because they had to slide his dick under the bonnet that's right that's what they had to do yeah yeah i would have put it on the roof his dick that is just slugging over the top. Just slugging over the top there. Yeah, terrific. Anyways, this has been The Fast and the Furious 2001s.

We didn't talk about the plot, but there isn't really a plot. Ah, we did DVD players. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Betrayal, Paul Walker's a cop. Michelle Rodriguez is in this. That's true. She's really good.

Just doing that one expression for 90 minutes. But sometimes she puts on sunglasses. That's true, yeah. Yeah. Bit of character development there. That's true, yeah. Bit of character development there. That's true, actually. As in sometimes it's Bryce.

Sometimes she didn't believe she could do it, but then she did. Yeah, that's right. We'll be back next week to talk about Too Fast, Too Furious, a movie I've seen some of and by all accounts is terrible. Looking forward to it. Yeah, it's going to be great. Yeah. But again, we're only doing the three.

We do these in blocks. Because they sort of get better after that. Yeah, it's going to be great. Yeah. But again, we're only doing the three. We do these in blocks. Because they sort of get better after that. Yeah, that's right. I feel like these first three are really like a specific era of Fast and Furious. And then they kind of take a turn. Yeah, yeah. Look, we'll do the next few when Fast 10 comes out. Exactly.

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This is going to be really exciting. You can have any beer you want as long as it's NordVPN. That's the sound of internet safety. You better believe it. Grab that jam, folks. Goodbye. Remember when Brian is infiltrating, like, he goes to the first race? Yeah, yeah.

And he's got his big green car and he reverses it, like, into the spot. Yeah. And everybody's like, whoa, check out this guy's car. Imagine if it took him, like, eight tries to reverse it in. I mean, you know, it's a skill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a skill that not everybody has. Just real time, just him being like, whoop, whoop.

And then somebody outside the car's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, you're going to hit my, what? Okay, he's, okay. To be fair, though, a lot of these cars don't have rear vision mirrors. For real. Because they're just always looking forward. They're always like... They're like sharks that also don't have rear vision mirrors. Exactly.

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