The Weekly Planet - The Flash (1990) - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

In the lead up to The Flash 2023 a movie that is probably coming out we're taking a look back at three propeties that tie directly (or indirectly) to the characters of The Flash, Supergirl and Batman.... To kick things off we'll be looking at the very much ahead of its time Flash series from 1990. Starring John Wesley Shipp who would later return to the character in the 2014 series, it's huge budget and cinematic nature put it a cut above what we'd seen on television before. But then they cancelled it. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage review!Video Edition ► https://youtu.be/hBlrhgTb5q0SUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-moviesThe Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:54 Welcome back, everybody, to Caravan of Garbage, where this week and for the following weeks, we're well aware that the Flash movie is probably coming out, and we want to honour that by doing some things that are sort of linked to that potentially. And we're going to kick off with the best superhero TV series of 1990, Superforce. Ooh!
Starting point is 00:01:13 You remember Superforce, James? No. Do you remember leaving a like on this video? He's an astronaut, but then he becomes a cop. He uses a highly advanced powered exoskeleton and a motorcycle to fight crime in the city of Metroplex during the then future year of 2020. The Transformer Metroplex? Unrelated. He fights a Japanese
Starting point is 00:01:30 themed crime boss played by a white guy with a moustache. And your question might be is that guy G. Gordon Liddy? Yes, it's actually G. Gordon Liddy, the Watergate guy. He became an actor. I don't know. Just for this or other things? As far as I know just for this. Came out of jail and they're like what what do you want to do, G Gordon Liddy?
Starting point is 00:01:47 And he's like, I want to be a Japanese crime boss. Were you willing to do it on TV? Yes, I am. Absolutely. Well, I consider a lot of politics just very performative in acting anyway, Mason. I don't think there's a genuine one among them. Oh my God. I'll say anything.
Starting point is 00:02:02 You've changed the topic in a flash, James. Wow. Thank you for saying that. And thank you for leaving a like, Mason. You just brushed over when I said leave a like, but I'm assuming that you did along with everybody else. Clickety-click. So, yeah, there was a show, another superhero show in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Did it go for at least two seasons, James? No, it didn't. Superforce went until 1992, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, but Superforce had the budget of one of these episodes. That's true, it did. The entire thing. He just wears motocross gear, this guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Google it. Yeah. Well, they're going to see it, aren't they, in the video? Yeah. That wasn't just all blank. Ben and Lawrence would have put Superforce in. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:38 So each episode of- If they can find any existing footage of it. Maybe just the VHS cover, I don't know. It's definitely all on youtube yeah so each episode of the flash 1990 was budgeted at 1.5 million dollars which was the largest budget ever for a series i remember reading a magazine because we had magazines back then that had a big feature on the flash and i remember thinking my god over a million dollars an episode yeah these days that's chump change you wouldn't even bother that's right that's about 2.2 million dollars i think in today's money that's enough for kevin costner to just walk through the set of yellowstone it's not saying anything he just
Starting point is 00:03:13 opens the door walks through and he's out he's out the other side the accounts are sweating away oh my god he's getting up for coffee now oh how we can afford this but yeah this was this was a staggering amount of money at the time and straight away you know that there's a bunch of money in it because they shot it in a real city, seemingly, or they made it look like a real city. It's lit well. The music's incredible, which I want to talk about. There's motorbikes.
Starting point is 00:03:35 They blow up a bus. Motorbikes just like Super Force. Just like Super Force. I mean, they had one motorbike. This has many motorbikes. This has many motorbikes, but obviously inspired by Super Force. You know what? This show was obviously also inspired by Batman 89.
Starting point is 00:03:48 100%. The suit is... I mean, well, here's the thing, though. I think it starts out quite Batman 89 inspired, and then the pilot, and then just sort of drops off quite rapidly. But I feel like the initial kind of setup and a lot of the initial lighting and architecture, and especially that suit. The musculature. Oh, my God. You know what? It's still and architecture, and especially that suit.
Starting point is 00:04:05 The musculature. Oh, my God. You know what? It's still the best live-action Flash suit, I think. Well, look, there's been 19 seasons of recent Flash. That's true. I'm sure there's a really good suit in there somewhere. I've seen them all and not as good as this one.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Okay, fair enough. Not even the one that's sort of nanotech and just goes... Enough of the nanotech, though. Please, everybody. Please, if you could. We want just a big crash helmet like Superforce. It's a big crash helmet. Enough of the nanotech, though. Please, everybody. Please, if you could. We want just a big crash helmet like Superforce. A big crash helmet with a big drop-down crosshairs on it.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Is his name Superforce? What do you mean? In the show, Superforce is the lead actor. The lead actor's name is Superforce. The character's name is Superforce. But the character's name is Superforce. Apparently, yes. But he's not a force. No, he's just a guy.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I mean, he's a force for good, I guess. Yep. Yeah. And I guess he could force his way through a door with that crash helmet. You better believe he could. He ran into it hard enough. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:52 But no, this is 100%- His brother's a robot, James. What? And Patrick McNee from the Avengers is in a computer. Wait, are they different characters? Yes, they're different. Was his brother always a robot? No.
Starting point is 00:05:02 So his brother was turned into a robot. Maybe. Anyways. Yeah. Anyways. Yeah, the Flash, though. It has a theme by Danny Elfman. Yes. Which, you know, again, I mean, later in the series also, they just put the Joker in it.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I mean, they call it the Trickster, and it's Mark Hamill, obviously. It is, yeah. But there's so much of this, which is they saw Batman 89, and they went, I think we can do this on the small screen and i think for the most part this is pretty this is pretty solid i think it's pretty solid yeah it's very solid and it's very tanned everybody's so tanned one thing i couldn't get past yes in that opening sequence is it how smooth everybody is especially john wesley ship yeah that if i saw that and you didn't tell me, I just assumed
Starting point is 00:05:45 you de-aged him to look like that. He is so smooth. There is not a blemish on that man. Okay, but is this a case of one, like TV, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:55 standard definition technology was a little fuzzy back then. Yeah. And the fact that when we watched a version that was sort of remastered maybe using AI. That's true.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And into like a 4K kind of restoration. Yeah. It's on YouTube if you want to watch it, by the way. Yeah, you're absolutely right. It might just be that. But John Wesley Shipp, great Barry Allen. First of all, Barry Allen should be a jock, I think.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Well, he is. No, he is in this. That's what I'm saying. But all the subsequent ones, I very much enjoy. I like Grant Gustin in The Rock. Me too, I like him a lot. But I feel like the essential element from the comic books that's never been translated over except for John Wesley Shipp,
Starting point is 00:06:30 he's supposed to be like kind of a jock of a guy. He works, you know, he's a chemist, but he can also throw a football, man. And a punch. And throw a football and a punch. Yeah. Well, it's interesting because his dad hates him because he's such a nerd.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah. Which is crazy because his dad's like, well, first of all, his dad's not in jail. But he should be in jail because he's so mean. And he's like, when I was a police officer, I got shot, then I went back to work the next day and I didn't even take overtime. And it's like, hey, man, you're a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Did you ever consider that you're a total fucking idiot? That's M. Emmett Walsh. That's a delight. No complaints there, obviously. He's in Knives Out. Remember? He's the security guard in Knives Out. He is, he is.
Starting point is 00:07:06 What a delight. I love that guy. Yeah, big fan. But ooh, just the way he talks down to Barry Allen. Like Barry Allen couldn't just throw him over a fence and you'd never see him again. You know? Ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:07:17 He's got a best friend who's the guy from Becca. Yeah, yeah. Alex Desert, I think his name is. Yeah, big fan of that guy. Love him. And his brother, who's an interesting fellow, who also could have played his dad. I know it's a hair situation, obviously,
Starting point is 00:07:32 but it's interesting that he gifts his brother a medal at one point. He's like, I want you to have this. And his brother's like, hey, this is mine. And he's like, yeah, I stole this from you, but you can have it back now, 20 years later. What are you doing, Barry, you sneaky little nerd? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Also, pretty solid special effects on the whole. There is one moment where he first does, he's like, he's fast running, and they do it like Batman 1966 style. They do. A combination between Batman 1960 and Sir Digby Chicken Seas. Just a little... If I didn't know and and sir digby chicken season just a little if i didn't know better i'd say they just mounted the camera on his head yeah and pointed
Starting point is 00:08:10 it backwards yeah absolutely that's that not a great start to the super speeding i think no but i think on the whole other than that not only does it look pretty good they do interesting things with it there's a moment where he does like a card trick there trick. There's fun little moments like where he cleans up his apartment, but then afterwards he's just made more of a mess because he's still kind of getting a handle on his powers. I think there's a whole lot of little things like that which I mean, they could have just made him zip and he does his apartment
Starting point is 00:08:36 in a second or whatever, but they don't just do that. You know, there's little bits of character that they put into it and there's a learning curve. Let's talk about the suit though. Okay. And there's a, there's a learning curve. Let's talk about the suit though. Okay. Again, it's, it's, it's, it's a red Burton suit. I mean, it's also like a softer kind of like a velvety texture almost.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Yeah. But he's got, again, he's got the jock width to him. Yeah. Which I appreciate. And John Wesley Shipp ripped as hell. Ripped as hell, mate. Especially for 1990. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Unusual. Keaton's not looking like that under the bat suit. Well, that's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah. In the Keaton's not looking like that under the bat suit. Well, that's what I thought. Yeah, in the movies, they don't bother, but which makes me also think that this is just what he looked like, right? I think so, yeah. He didn't get fit for this. And if you see him now, yeah, he looks amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:13 The only letdown on this suit, the legs, the boots. Okay, sure. Or lack of boots. Yeah. It's just all one color down to the end. Yeah. They didn't give him any boot tops. They didn't give him any little lightning around the...
Starting point is 00:09:24 Well, it's one thing that he squeezes his way into. I guess it is, yeah. Yeah, I like it. It doesn't need fake muscles really either, but I think it's done well enough where it doesn't feel like ridiculous. You know, I think when you get to like the shoe market era, or even the original Batman... I like how we're in so deep to superhero stuff that we're like,
Starting point is 00:09:42 this doesn't look that ridiculous. Imagine anybody else in the world looking at any of these suits. Yeah, you're right. Objectively, of course he looks ridiculous. Yeah, well, it's a superhero suit. Yeah. But it looks like they made it specifically for him also. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:57 It wasn't like they made the suit and then they cast the guy, you know. I find the weaknesses that he has very interesting. For one, he's bad at sex. There's a joke where it's alluded to that he's too fast, but it's not sex. It's a different thing. Horny TV series. Very horny.
Starting point is 00:10:15 We've talked in the past, especially when we talk about horny Dracula, that horniness is left. That Dracula was too horny. I don't care what anybody says. I'm glad they beheaded that guy. Yeah, absolutely. Bad news. But horniness is left that dracula was too horny yeah i don't care what anybody says i'm glad they beheaded that guy yeah absolutely bad news but like horniness is he had to go mason i am aware horniness is entirely left the superhero genre you're right there's none of it there is that
Starting point is 00:10:36 idea and i know there's been like think pieces that everybody's so ripped and tanned and shirtless and whatever but nobody's ever touched anybody else in these movies. Or if they have, it just feels like, I don't know, they filmed the kissing scenes on different days in front of different green screens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very sexless. Because I feel like also they might go the other way
Starting point is 00:10:57 where they'll do like the boys, where it's just gross and grotty. Right, yeah, you're right. It's not so much like, it's not so much horny. It's just like here's an awful thing to look at here's an orifice here's some fluids what do you think about that well i would say if you're on set of a superhero movie or tv series and you're thinking about uh if you're thinking about maybe introducing some some more sexiness and romance yeah If you're thinking about maybe introducing some more sexiness and romance,
Starting point is 00:11:25 fluids is too far. Yeah, okay. Maybe back up a bit. Back up a bit. Back up a bit from that, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. He also needs insulin or something. Yes. But I think that's interesting because he can't just run forever.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And I know there is that idea in the comics also, and we've seen it in various know various live action incarnations that he's got this very fast metabolism obviously so he needs to be constantly eating and refueling but i think like working that into the character means that he can't just beat up all the biker gang like immediately yes i mean he does for a lot of it but then he gets the last guy and he's like bloody hell i'm tired bloody hell i'm glossy i'm so glossy he gets to the last and tired. He gets to the last guy, James, he gets to the last guy and specifically he says, remember me? And the guy should be like, yeah, I saw you like 30 seconds ago.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Like literally just around the corner. I do remember you. I mean, I know that's a callback from when I killed your brother and I said, remember me? But you weren't there for that. So I don't know how you heard that, Barry. Oh, yeah, I didn't realise that. I think it's a coincidence.
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Starting point is 00:13:40 Memory problems. Maybe. Maybe they've got some kind of hive mind. Because the villain in this is the former partner of Barry Allen's brother. Not a romantic partner. No. No horniness for them. But they were both pals in the motorcycle division of the police force. And the bad guy had gone bad.
Starting point is 00:13:58 He'd gone bad already. He's also got, like, joke scars and whatever. He sure does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's another Batman thing. And then he got put away in the big house or he died in an explosion or something, but he didn't really die.
Starting point is 00:14:09 So now he's back for revenge. Yeah. I think it's kind of a letdown, this guy. I liked his, I think, yeah. I know what you mean because, and later in the series we get like, Mark Hamill is the trickster, but it's pretty low key the first episode
Starting point is 00:14:24 to be like 12 guys on motorcycles, you know? And I think, you know, there's that ominous threat of them driving down the street and causing chaos and all of that. And the police are like, these guys suck.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And then reporters are like, well, maybe you should do your job. Maybe you know what they do. They blow up a cop car in like the opening minute with cops in it. And there's no, like these days there'd be a little additional dialogue. The, the the the car had exploded into atoms and then there'd be a voice of her going you're right yeah i'm fine i'm fine we're both fine i dived out some fine i dived out
Starting point is 00:14:54 of the car down to this storm drain i mean i'm wet but i'm all right i won the lottery i found a scratch card i'm rich too this worked out great for me, actually. No, they're dead. Yeah, they're all dead. Yeah. But no, I totally see where you're going from. But, you know, he has his little punch up at the end and whatever. And he's got a love interest who I quite like as well, who's a recurring character.
Starting point is 00:15:17 They lean away from the iris west of it all in this, which I don't mind because I think he does have. Well, he's got a love triangle of sorts in this. That's true. I can't remember enough of the series from when I watched it in the 90s to know but he's got both Iris West and Tina McGee. Tina McGee. And spoiler
Starting point is 00:15:36 alert, James, in the CW universe, John Wesley Shipp makes a bunch of recurring appearances as Jay Garrick, the Golden Age Flash. Yep. He's also Henry Allen. He's also Barry Allen's dad, yeah. And he also comes back in The Crisis on Infinite Earths as this Flash.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Yes, that's right. And it's revealed that he and Tina got married. And that's nice. It's nice, isn't it? Well, he's also the manifestation of the Speed Force or something. He's also that. Yeah, anybody who's ever been in either the Flash or Arrowverse, and this is all obviously connected,
Starting point is 00:16:05 it's cool that they can bring people back from the 90s to the modern stuff. I think that's great. But if you're an actor... Using a process of time travel called waiting 30 years. I think... And hoping they're not dead. And in shape. Oh yeah, that's true. If you are an actor in
Starting point is 00:16:21 any of those series... If you are a actor, James. If you are a actor, Mason. That's how we say it in Australia. You should know that. I'm just confirming. Yeah. Just be prepared to put on different wigs and outfits for different universe dimensional versions of you. Which I don't mind at all.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Anyways, though, I guess people might be wondering, you put all this money in it. You cast it really well. You know, you put some terrific special effects. You've got a Danny Elfman score. It cost $1.5 million an episode. Did any of this pay off? No. No, no.
Starting point is 00:16:51 It was cancelled after one season. So it first aired on Thursdays at 8, but it ran up against both. 9 Central. But it ran up against The Cosby Show and The Simpsons. And the show was cancelled because of high production costs and a fluctuating time slot, which also, obviously, people get confused when it's on. You know, you can't just catch it later on streaming.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And I know a lot of people might be like, yeah, we know that or whatever. There's people who don't know that. Sometimes things were just on the TV, and if you didn't see it, you just never would. That's right. But now someone put it on YouTube. Sometimes the entire series wasn't available on DVD.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Sometimes it was like the pilot episode of one more episode on VHS. Yep. It was down at the video shop. And you go, do you have it? And they're like, nah, it's out. And guess what? We weren't happy about it. We didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:17:40 It's better now. It is better now. So yeah, they cancelled it. But let's do some green trivia and also the guy who shouts Rodney, if you don't mind. I would love that. Now, according to executive producers Danny Bilson and Paul DiMeo. Can I ask you this question? Do you think Danny Bilson is related to Rachel Bilson?
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yes, they're the same. They've got the same barber. Okay. Because I was going to say, because, wait, I'm thinking of the OC. Yes. Thinking of the OC. Mason, you've been too busy. Because he was Dawson's dad. John Wait, I'm thinking of the OC. Yes. Thinking of the OC. Mason, you've been too busy. Because he was Dawson's dad.
Starting point is 00:18:08 John Wesley Shipp was Dawson's dad in Dawson. And I'm like, is that a connection? It's not a connection. They're different shows. If you don't mind me saying so, Mason, you've been spending too long driving in the sun, looking out for number one, et cetera. That theme song, Mason.
Starting point is 00:18:20 You better believe it. Yeah, from one of those shows. That's the theme song. So in the DVD commentary, they said this. Ha! He's Rachel Bilson's dad. Yeah, I know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I was about to tell you that. That was my bit of trivia. Oh, was it really? Yep. Here's a second bit of trivia, though. Oh, just off the top of your head. Yeah, this is unrelated. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:18:36 So they also said, these two, if the show was picked up for a second season, the premiere would have featured the trickster Captain Cold and Mirror Master teaming up to take on the Flash, maybe open with something like that. But also, I understand why you wouldn't go super theatrical comic book-y. Absolutely, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Like, I understand. He's just getting his powers, he's not quite used to them, you know. Yeah. A normal gang of guys can be a threat to him, I get it. I get it. There's that scene at the end where there's a scene towards the start where a couple of the gang members want to get out of the life. And one guy's like, I've been saving up all this money. 300 bucks.
Starting point is 00:19:15 300 bucks. It's going to get us all the way to Pizza Hut. All the way to Pizza Hut. That's right. And it's the 90s, so they're still in the hut-shaped buildings. You know, because we're both in the 90s. We can get the all-you-can-eat, which they still have in Pizza Hut. And we'll have for forever, as far as I know.
Starting point is 00:19:32 It's called The Works. Oh, hell yeah. But you know that because you're in the 90s too. Oh, no, the boss is here. Ah, I'm being executed on a bike. So, yeah. That'd be embarrassing, that execution scene, if they put him on the bike and they send him down the tunnel.
Starting point is 00:19:45 He just goes afoot and it sort of falls over. Yeah, but he's a biker, so he wouldn't have. Yeah, that's true. He would have kept it beautifully balanced. But no, I would have definitely tilted off to the side and exploded into a wall and killed everybody in that room, because why not? But imagine if it was those three supervillains
Starting point is 00:20:00 showing up in garish Batman 60s villain outfits. People would have been like, that's a bit much maybe. So I get it. I get it. The second season would have also featured appearances from classic Flash villains Vandal Savage and Weather Wizard. And we mentioned this, but it is revealed in Crisis on Infinite Earths, the crossover, that this shows Barry Allen and Tina McGee,
Starting point is 00:20:22 they eventually get married, giving the series' romantic tension a conclusion finally, I say. I mean, they showed the full intercourse. They did. Yeah. I think they're too far, I think. I'm okay with it. I mean, they didn't show any fluid, so that's fine. So yeah, it's interesting because John Wesley Shipp was obviously already in the new Flash series
Starting point is 00:20:42 and then reprised his role as 1990s Barry Allen, who's from Earth-90. So that's a fun nod to the era that it's from. Oh, yes, please. Yeah, absolutely. But he died also. You remember this. We were talking about it the other day.
Starting point is 00:20:55 The character, not John Wesley Shipp. No, he's fine. But what is it? The cosmic treadmill. Yeah, so it was supposed to be, you told me this, but we thought it was going to be you told me this but it was supposed we thought it was going to be regular barry allen the entire plot the entire plot thrust of the last eight years of the cw's the flash was that there was a newspaper from the future that said the flash was going to sacrifice his life to save humanity and the whole deal was like grant gustin the flash is gonna die
Starting point is 00:21:19 how's he what's gonna happen he's gonna die here or whatever and then like right at the last minute uh john wesley ship flash is just like fuck it i'll do it i'll do it yeah i'll do it drunk yeah i'll do it what are we doing i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm having problems at home i'll do it yeah she'll be right mate i'll do it don't worry about it just stop someone help me up here she'll be apples mate and then he. And then he exploded into dust. I did it. He's not the only character and actor to return because Amanda Pace returns as Tina McGee.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Mark Hamill also played multiple versions of the trickster as well. There's one from Earth 1 and Earth 3. So that's fun. It's fun and it's good to see a thing and go, I recognise some of this in the modern day. Hell yeah. Man, imagine the future, I recognize some of this. It's hell. In the modern day. Hell yeah. Man, imagine the future, right? I refuse.
Starting point is 00:22:08 No, imagine it 20 to 30 years from now. Okay, great. Imagine the plethora of people they can pick out of the Arrowverse. Oh, yes, please. My goodness, Mason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just going to be a cavalcade of stars. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Stephen Amell better keep working on those. The chin-ups where you keep going up the thing. I agree. Yeah, keep those abs going. Don't you think it would be easier to do that if it was just a ladder? Yeah. Something to think about, Stephen Amell. Or if it was just playing video games on the couch.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Something to think about, Stephen Amell. Something to think about. Anyways, pretty good. I thought it was pretty good too. Genuinely pretty good. The pilot acts as like a mini-movie. Yes. And, hang on.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Bah! Dogs are barking. My dogs are barking, Mason. Yeah, you'll be right, mate. You'll be right. You'll be fucking right. Yeah. Yeah, you're right, mate.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah. Get out of it, mate. Yeah. But anyways, do you want a hint towards next week? Yes. So yeah, this one's a long time coming. Supergirl. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Wow, wow, wow. Bad movie. Do we know that for sure though? Yes. When was the last. Wow, wow, wow. Bad movie. Do we know that for sure though? Yes. When was the last time you saw it? In the 80s. Maybe it's got hidden depths. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I mean in the 2000s when I was a child. When I was a young man. Young boy, yeah. I see. Right, right, right. That's what I meant to say. I misspoke because
Starting point is 00:23:19 you know, flash and time dilation I get confused. I've only seen it in clips on a TikTok. Which is the first social media platform I ever used because I'm younger than you even. There is no way there is a single second of that movie on TikTok.
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Starting point is 00:24:25 This is fine. You can just hang out here. Anyways, thanks for watching, everybody. Grab that gem, you guys. We will see you next week. You're not doing the Shrek thing? Because Shrek's over. You're not doing the grab that Shrek?
Starting point is 00:24:33 Grab that super force. Perfect. Did you know Danny Bilson also produced for TV? After he produced The Flash, Big Failure. He produced his daughter, Rachel Bilson. He also produced that. He produced 1992's Human Target. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Also a DC property with Rick Springfield in the role. 1994 to 1996 is Viper, Transforming Car, Dangerous. Yeah. And 1996 is The Sentinel.
Starting point is 00:24:58 I don't know that one. Guy with senses. He goes to the jungle and he's like, I can hear everything. I can hear everything. Congratulations, you're The Sentinel. I don't want to be that. Too bad. Do I have to go to the jungle? Yeah, you're going to go to the jungle and he's like, I can hear everything. I can hear everything. Congratulations, you're the Sentinel.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I don't want to be that. Too bad. Do I have to go to the jungle? Yeah, you're going to go to the jungle. I'm going to get bit by a snake. That's right. I don't want that. But you'll hear it coming, so that's good.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I guess I will know that I'm going to die. Oh, the snake's coming really fast. I'm not as fast as the snake. Ow. Anyway, what a show. I can hear my heart stopping. You didn't say the Sentinel. No.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Huh. You must have. I didn't. All right, then. Did you see... We're still here, are we? Yeah, what a show. I can hear my heart stopping. You didn't say The Sentinel. No. Huh. You must have. I didn't. All right, then. Did you see... Was it Delia Rowley? Yeah, what's that guy? And he can take anybody's role, you know?
Starting point is 00:25:33 He's like, this week I'm a doctor. The Pretender. The Pretender, there we go. Yeah, I know The Pretender. What's that got to do with this? I don't know, I just thought of it. I love The Pretender. Yeah, pretty good, right?
Starting point is 00:25:42 I watched it all on TikTok. Yeah. I love the pretender. Yeah, pretty good, right? I watched it all on TikTok. Yeah. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy,
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