The Weekly Planet - The Lion King - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: July 19, 2019

The Lion King is a 2019 live action movie that people love. But did you know that it bears a striking resemblance to a 1994 Disney animated film also called The Lion King? Shocking I know. Anyways her...e's our spoiler review of that from the animation to the Elton John Tim Rice Lebo M Hans Zimmer soundtrack to the voice cast. You've seen the full movie. You get it.Video Version â–º http://bit.ly/2LYqqBJJames' Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter â–º http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon â–º https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch â–º https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes â–º https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download â–º https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetBuy Lion King Amazon â–º https://amzn.to/2oNF45o Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:05 Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates Lion King's getting remade It is, they remade it It's live action, but it's not really live action We know Maybe it hasn't been entirely remade yet Maybe they're frantically working on it right now It's entirely possible
Starting point is 00:01:20 There's some guy being like I just can't give these lions a facial expression of any kind I'm trying so hard. And Favreau's like, is it Favreau? It's Favreau. He's got a chair and a whip, exactly. And he's like, you will get them to emote in some way. You know?
Starting point is 00:01:37 That might be it. Now I've got to go be on the chef show. Have you seen that show yet? I've seen some of the chef show. Very good things. It's pretty good. Gwyneth Paltrow didn't know she was in Spider-Man or whatever. That's wild. Isn't it?
Starting point is 00:01:46 She's too busy selling garbage to idiots. Anyway, The Lion King. We're back to talk about it because in this ongoing series called Mason Hasn't Seen Any Disney Classic Films from the 90s or even before or after. So we're doing each of them individually before the live action remake
Starting point is 00:02:01 comes out. That's what this is called. Notoriously, Mason hates Disney films, the ones that he has seen. I don't. Is that true? Didn't hate Aladdin, hated Dumbo. Hated Dumbo. So we're up to speed. We're up to speed. Okay, so this, The Lion King,
Starting point is 00:02:14 it's the highest-grossing film of 1994 the world over. Beloved by all. Artists created over a million drawings to bring it to life. It's Gregory Peck's favourite animated film and the first Disney movie to include a fart. That's true. That's a true fact. Huh. Will you fly in the face of all these things of The Lion King? Is it the greatest movie ever told and story?
Starting point is 00:02:37 No, it sucks. What the fuck are you talking about? What do you think? What do you think of this movie? It's incredible. Is it? It's an incredible film. I'm incredulous that you think it's incredible. Did you re-watch it?
Starting point is 00:02:46 Of course. I've watched it like five times this year. Okay, but when did you watch it most recently? Probably like a week ago. Okay, well, I've watched it more recently than you, and so I claim authority on this, and I say I didn't care for it. What about this?
Starting point is 00:02:59 It's schmaltzy. It's not funny. I hated the voice acting. I hated both versions of Simba. I hated young Simba and Matthew Broderick Simba. He's profoundly unlikable, I think. That's one thing I can agree on you with. I don't think Matthew Broderick is a good adult representation
Starting point is 00:03:16 of Simba. Okay, but what do you think of Simba the character? I mean, you know, he's annoying, and then he leaves, and you're like, good. And then he's back, and you're like... Did you think he was going to leave and not return? I hoped, but I didn't believe, obviously. And then he's back, and they're like, yay, this wiener who left can finally lead us. Get somebody else.
Starting point is 00:03:37 But that's not how it works in Lion King society. But that's the thing, is that it's lion society. Yeah. But they're very... The problem is it's lion society, but they're also intelligent, like, human beings. Yeah, they've got those traits. One of them's British, the bird.
Starting point is 00:03:52 They're making jokes about, oh, we'll turn him into a rug, or like, oh, we'll get the lion share of this, and then it's like, but we can't, only the man lion can be the leader of the lions. Get somebody else, get Nala to do it. Well, in the sequel of the lions. Get somebody else. Get Nala to do it. Well, in the sequel, that's what happens. Good.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Simba's daughter takes over. Because Simba sucks. Is it called The Lion King 2? Is it called The Lion King 2 because Simba sucks? Get someone else because Simba sucks? What do you think about that? Look, okay, here's one thing I do like about Simba. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:24 They modelled Simba's hair on Jon Bon Jovi's hair at the time, not his 80s perm. Remember his sweet big mullet that he used to sport? Yeah, I do. If you look at the film clip for Bon Jovi's Always, that's what they're going for here. Surely you can at least appreciate the animation in this movie. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:04:40 What are you talking about? It was absolutely ground... I know it's like a 25-year-old movie, but groundbreaking at the time yeah but look i look i'll i'll concede some sequences are pretty exciting like maybe like the stampede looks pretty good well the stampede is that thing we were talking about when we talked about aladdin it's a combination of cgi and hand-drawn animation like that took three years to like create this new kind of technology to get like a hundred little beasts to run on screen at one time and make them look like they're cel-shaded
Starting point is 00:05:08 or whatever now you can you know there's a snapchat filter for it you're just like look at me it's so slow this movie really goes for 90 minutes but it's it moves in a clip it does it what are you talking about you know what The first four and a half minutes goes forever. I think it might. The opening shot where they come in. Yeah, where the kid's born. I think it just, it. Well, I mean, you've seen that though, right? So that's why, is it boring to you?
Starting point is 00:05:34 I've never seen it all the way through. Or four and a half, just. That's all they released as the trailer. I mean, they did it recently, but at the time, in the early 90s, that's what they released, having only done like a third of the film and then they were like oh shit everybody loves this wow and how are we going to live up to it well you would have seen me in a movie theater in 1993 going oh god when will it end this was also famously like disney's bt because the a team was doing pocahontas the a team were fleeing the government for a crime they didn't commit. That's what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Is that why Pocahontas turned out the way it did? Yes. Look, I'm not a fan of Pocahontas. I will not defend that movie. I know there are defenders of it. They were, like, trying to finish the cells for John Smith or whatever, and they're like, BA, we've got to go. Get in the van.
Starting point is 00:06:20 What about this, though? We're going to shoot a guy in a Jeep, and then the Jeep's going to fall off a bridge, and everybody's going to be fine. They're okay., and then the jeep's going to fall off a bridge, and everybody's going to be fine. They're okay. Yeah, we're okay. The father-son stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Now, as a father myself, that's something that I can definitely appreciate. But you have a father. Correct, yes. And you've no doubt seen a kid that you're somewhat fond of. Yeah. You know some kids. You know my kid. And also, I was required to be the next member of the royal family to take the crown.
Starting point is 00:06:45 But guess what? You don't have to fulfill your destiny if you don't want to. It's how a bloody monarchy in this fake lion society works. I don't know what you want from it. Again, they should have got someone with skills who's not an idiot. Sure. I can appreciate that. What about the father-son stuff when Mufasa is killed? Did you feel anything?
Starting point is 00:07:12 I'm thinking back i'm looking inside trying to wake up his dad he's like come on dad get up you've been murdered but i need you you said you'd always bloody hang we'd hang out together no see it was kind of it kind of felt kind of forced and schmaltzy to me oh my god mason what are you even saying yeah that, that's right. But is he right? Is it I that is crazy? Yeah. Is it me? Is it billions of people who enjoy this movie? Maybe it is.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Yeah. I stand up to those billions of people and I will fight them. What about when Mufasa returns to give Simba the talking to? Oh, in the clouds. He rolls in, gives him a talking to. He's like, listen, you need to be more responsible and be less like Ferris Bueller and more like your character. The other kid, Cameron.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Yeah. You need to be more like Cameron. Put the Ferrari back. Come on, man. None of that. It was all right. The hiatus. Anything.
Starting point is 00:08:01 But also, you need magic. You need a magic visitation from your dead dad to get your ass in a gear. Yeah. That's the mark of a bad leader. Because statistically speaking, that wasn't going to happen, was it? I mean, probably not. Don't you think he would have come to that realisation? Also, he was gaslit into leaving by Scar.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yeah. He thought that he'd murdered his father or contributed to it. He didn't leave because he was like, I suck. And he left. Actually, in an early version of the story, he was going to be like, first of all, it was like baboons versus lions. That was like the original idea. Oh, not hyenas versus lions.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Interesting. And Scar was a baboon and Rafiki was a cheater or whatever. It doesn't matter. And Symbol was just like a slovenly idiot who has to like, you know, rally and get abs Yeah yeah yeah Look I get that But also that plot line
Starting point is 00:08:49 Just sort of fizzled at the end Because they're like Why did you leave all those years ago And he's like Because I killed my father And then Scar's like Actually I killed your father And then Simba's like
Starting point is 00:08:58 Actually Scar killed my father And Scar's like Yeah I did done do it actually And then they're like Alright well I guess Simba's the king again Let all fight yeah jeremy irons but voice actors in general we got jeremy irons he has a great song about being a nazi he sure does surely you appreciate it what's weird about that scene though is that there's there's a lot of explosions and lava yeah and then we never come back to the explosions and lava cave Cave. I think it's more like symbolism and things like that.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Symbolism. Symbolism, very good. I remember watching this film with my grandpa on VHS after it came out. And he saw the Nazi stuff and he's like, ha! And I think it's because he killed a lot of Nazis in real life. Like a lot. Like I don't know how many. Anyway, that's not really relevant, is it?
Starting point is 00:09:43 No, I think it's very relevant. Okay, thank you. Okay, the voice of Mufasa, James Earl Jones is returning. That's right. He's the only returning voice actor from this movie. Was Broderick busy? No, but he's still not coming back. They've got Donald Glover.
Starting point is 00:09:55 All right. Who would you prefer? I mean, realistically. Yeah, Donald Glover. Yeah, and they didn't get also Jonathan Taylor Thomas, who voiced Kid Simba. He's also not coming back. Is he busy? No, not because he's busy.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Oh, okay. All right. He's got enough money. I Is he busy? Not because he's busy. Oh, okay. All right. He's got enough money. I have no... Okay, right. I'm sure he's doing just fine. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:10 He's got that bloody Tim Allen money. He's got that. Exactly. I'm with you on the Matthew Broderick thing because Mufasa has this deep baritone voice and he's this commanding leader and he's fair and heroic and strong and he's got great hair. Maybe not Bon Jovi hair. Maybe something a bit earlier. And then by comparison, even the voice of Simba was just like,
Starting point is 00:10:30 blech, this? Well, exactly. He's kind of like a, I don't know, maybe he'll grow into that. You know what I mean? Yeah, he doesn't. Matthew Broderick does return for the Lion King 2 Simba's Pride, actually. And so does Niamh Campbell. Who was, was she Nala?
Starting point is 00:10:44 No. Okay, right. But N campbell does does pop up yeah surely you must recognize like the stylist the stylistic choices for the animation you know i just can't wait to be king they change like the backgrounds to a whole lot of african patterns they got real lines in studios to like walk about so they could like mimic their movements and did anybody get more took a trip to Africa. Didn't they do that with Dumbo as well? Yeah. Strike two.
Starting point is 00:11:09 This is... Strike three. These aren't... The first strike was all the other things I said. The second strike was they did a thing that they did in Dumbo. These aren't even... Third strike, this movie's cancelled. It's clearly not cancelled.
Starting point is 00:11:20 How dare you even say such a thing? Look, I kind of like... That's pretty fun. I appreciate that. What do you think of the songs? The songs are great. What about compared to Aladdin? Better.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I think there's more good songs. I've introduced some doubt into James' mind. There's more good and iconic songs in this than there is in Aladdin. I don't think there is. I really like Aladdin because I think every song in this is an absolute banger. And for different reasons. Oh, yes. Like you got your opening.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Lebo M is like an African composer they got in. They got Hans Zimmer to do the instrumental. Elton John and Tim Rice did the lyric-y, music-y ones together. Like the Can You Feel the Love Tonight and probably another one or whatever. I don't like Can You Feel the Love Tonight. No, that's probably my least favorite. It was actually taken out and Nathan Lane sung it. probably another one or whatever. I don't like Can You Feel the Love Tonight. No, that's probably my least favourite. It was actually taken out and Nathan Lane sung it,
Starting point is 00:12:09 like the Timon and Pumbaa sung it together. Now when John saw it, he's like, what the fuck is this? And he's like, get rid of this. Two male animals singing together? I won't have it. Elton John says, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, so that's what happened there. I'd say that's probably the weakest song
Starting point is 00:12:25 But even then, that song, I think I've won numerous awards And topped the charts and everything like that It's all about awards, is it? No, it's not all about awards Again, I don't think it's the best song But I don't think you can just go, nah, no good I just don't think Watch me, you ready?
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yes Nah, no good I don't know what's happened here I don't know how you can watch this and just feel nothing and just dismiss it entirely. I just think it's schmaltzy. It's sincere and I don't think the jokes land. Like Timon and Pumbaa, the Rowan Atkinson. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:12:56 The hyenas, Whoopi Goldberg. Oh, don't get me started on the hyenas. What's wrong with them? They're just, I don't, I hate them. As characters. As characters and people. People ask this question, and there is actually an answer, but you know how Scar's name is Scar?
Starting point is 00:13:10 Why is he named Scar? Do you think he? He used to have a different name. Apparently Mufasa gave him the scar, so that's probably why. They're brothers, right? They're brothers, yeah. Though some of the creators say that they're not brothers, that they're not related, but then other people say that they actually are,
Starting point is 00:13:24 they grew up together. It's probably that thing though. Yeah. What was his name prior to that? I can't remember. No Scar? Let me look it up just quickly. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:13:31 No Scar? No Scar. Taka. There you go. Great. What a revelation. Anyway, so you're saying this is not a good movie. I'm not saying it's not a good movie.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I'm just saying- It sounds like that's what you're saying. You're cancelling it. You're dismissing it. I haven't cancelled it yet. You're saying Elton John doesn't want to see two men seeing each other. Elton John was saying that. Was he?
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yes. I'm saying it was fine. Like, with Aladdin, I'm like, man, I should have seen this a lot earlier. This was a ton of fun. Hilarious, you said. This, The Lion King, was not a ton of fun to me. So what about you coming up with the new one? You're obviously less excited to see another version of this, right?
Starting point is 00:14:10 Not necessarily. Might be better. Maybe it will be. I can't believe the way this went. This is unbelievable. How did you think it was going to go? That you'd like it on some level, I guess. That you'd be like, look, there's some things I didn't like,
Starting point is 00:14:24 but I really like this particular aspect of it. I don't even really like the Timon and Pumbaa pairing. I don't think they're a great combination. No? No. Too sassy, too sweet? What's going on there? Too grubby?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Yes, that's it. It's the grubbiness. There should have been regular bath scenes. What I like about those guys as well, they stand for nothing, right? So they'll fall for anything. Exactly. And then when Simba's like, listen, I got to go back
Starting point is 00:14:49 and like, and kill a, kill a lion. Yeah. And they're like, listen, we don't, we don't really believe in anything
Starting point is 00:14:55 or want to do anything, but we're, you know, we're going to stand with you on this. So even though they're flighty and grubby, they're still like, hey, we're mates. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Oh, they'll stand by their, their friend. It's a good message. Yeah. Would you have stood by Simba, though? Yeah, probably. I probably could have got someone else to lead the line. But that's not how it works in this lion society.
Starting point is 00:15:13 There were too many hyenas. Yeah, they should have just, like, ripped his throat out when he slept. They should have done that. Absolutely. Because they all sleep around him anyway, I assume. That's very true. Yeah. Anyway, this has been Caravan of Garbage.
Starting point is 00:15:23 You know what they could have done? You know what Scar could have done? You know what Scar could have done? Yeah. Just killed him there and there like years ago. Well, that was his plan. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but he didn't want
Starting point is 00:15:31 to do it himself because he's a coward just like people who don't like this movie. I think I'm the bravest one here if I'm quite honest. What do people think of The Lion King though?
Starting point is 00:15:40 Is Mason right? Am I crazy? Is he crazy? Am I crazy? Who's crazy? I crazy who's crazy I don't know anyway we do Caravan of Garbage
Starting point is 00:15:47 every Tuesday maybe the answer's somewhere in the middle it may just be it's not you're crazy you the viewer whoa
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Starting point is 00:16:02 we do videos here every Sunday Tuesday and Thursday Also we have a podcast called The Weekly Planet Where we talk movies and comics and TV shows We've got an upcoming episode on the new Lion King Will Mason be turned around on this whole franchise? It remains to be seen
Starting point is 00:16:15 Wouldn't that be a twist? Yeah If I liked the bad live action remake of something If it's bad We just don't know at this point We don't know yet, yeah I'm at MrSundayMovies on Twitter I'm at WikipediaBrown
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Starting point is 00:16:30 I want to see this as well I want to see which way this goes alright thanks guys grabbed our gem you guys we'll see you next week unbelievable un-
Starting point is 00:16:38 believable but really that unbelievable nah based on what you know about me not knowing your terrible personality see there you go perfect this podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network Really that unbelievable? Nah. Based on what you know about me. Not knowing your terrible personality, no.
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